5 of the Craziest SAS Operations (REUPLOAD)
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In regards to Operation Nimrod, the hostage taker hiding among the hostages in the back garden wasn’t immediately thrown into a police van. The SAS grabbed him and attempted to bring him back into the building to make sure they had neutralized all of the hostage takers until they were reminded about the number of cameras recording them, at which point he was begrudgingly brought to a police van.
That is very true. If those cameras were not watching that guy would not be around today. They would have just eliminated him, no doubt!
Fowzi Badavi Nedjad the last surviving hostage taker, now lives in London under a different identity after coming out of prison.
One of the (many) genius parts of Operation Nimrod happened while the SAS were doing their recce. To cover the noise of their drilling through the embassy walls to install listening devices, they had the flight path of the planes approaching Heathrow airport moved so they flew over the embassy. The noise from the planes overhead covered the sound of the drilling, and thus the hostage takers weren’t alerted to the ongoing operation. Genius.
These are the 5 craziest SAS missions we know about...🤫
yeah, it's basically the only 5 missions we know about lol. silent professionals.
@@danoconnor7864
Well of course, they aren't the "Hollywood Seals".😂😂😂
I only counted four.
@@calibrazxr750 Yup. Only 4. Maybe wanted to keep one quiet.
You never hear about the effective ones......South America, SE Asia etc etc!
Simon tries to hide it but he is so proud to be an Englishman
Lol I didn't think he was trying that hard to hide his utter joy at being British
Why would he hide it?
Englishman? According to an army buddy around half of the SAS in Welsh, Scottish, global recruits! Englishman.....tw*t
@@slake9727 because national pride in the UK is considered a bit racist, it's not and people know it's not but it's how the public view it. Simon has said before if you so much as wave a British flag especially the King George flag people think you are are racist.
The sas isnt english
As Lofty Wisemen said 'Did he take part in the Iranian Embassy siege? No, but he knew 120 guys that did'
A more recent SAS incident was during the DusitD2 complex attack in Nairobi Kenya. While this didn't involve a whole SAS team it did involve SAS member Christian Craighead also known as Obi-wan Nairobi. Awsome story.
Wasnt an operation
It was definitely a reaction... That's what modern SAS is for........ Respect and love to all of you serving.... and to those served previous..and to all fallen whomever they may be under any flag 🫡
His name is Curtis Morton not Christian Craighead lol - my brother in law knows him. He is also indeed the legend that follows him around
"Now, you probably haven't heard of South Georgia before."
'Course I have. It's where you run to to get away from Florida.
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
You forgot the Battle of Mirbat in 1972, surely that would be their greatest action?
Thankyou much appreciated
I am sure there are many more we don't hear about. In fact, I know there is!
I dont think that oman op would be considered crazy (although i know it was) RIP Laba
Are you serious? 9 men fending off over 300 enemy soldiers - I'd rate it higher than at least a couple of these stories.
@@jaysongabler591 crazy ops dude not against all odds
Plus i dont know if your ex military but do you understand what an Op is ???
The "Battle" of Mirbat wasnt an Operation it was a battle
It's simply amazing that Shackleton navigated that little row boat from Antarctica and got to that tiny Island of South Georgia on the Endurance expedition, and further amazing that South Georgia Island was where he died of a heart attack many years later.
I think South Georgia Island is considered the most remote inhabitated place on earth.
Shackletons dogs weren't real happy about the outcome of the expedition.
@@NelsonZAPTM yeah, poor dogs 😢
I think that's St Helena bud or Tristan da cunha can't rember which, south Georgia is (relatively) close to the Falkland islands or it would definitely win.
"We haven't the proper facilities to take you all prisoner. Sorry."
"Was there anything else?"
That was the Parachute Regiment, not the SAS.
@@calibrazxr750 british officers. the major was even carrying an umbrella in battle.
Greatest line in cinematic history. Well, for me anyways.
@@m33p0 there are a multitude of British officers, but there is a vast difference between an officer in the RLC one in the Life Guards and an officer in the SAS. There is also a large difference between an officer in the Parachute regiment and a trooper in the SAS.
The westside boys story has an extra interesting dimension, Phil Campion mentioned on his podcast (he was there) that the negotiation team left several crates of booze for the westside boys the day before as a token of goodwill. This meant many of the men the next day were horribly drunk or hungover
Then the helicopter he landed in, bailed out and killed everyone. Thought it was fairly easy then realised the chopper had landed backwards :D I love Phil Campion and how he describes the events
Fun fact: During the Iraq War, SAS Operators were dispatched during a patrol to deal with a factory that was making self-unalive vests. One of the SAS Operators was armed with a M1014, aka the L128A1 shotgun, and when he entered the room, he immediately took out the heads of 3 enemies, and as another 2 came down, their heads got blown off by the same shotgun as well. The enemies saw this, and with the fear of getting their heads blown off, all surrendered. All of this happened with 5 enemies downed in 7 seconds
Were u there
@@kevaunclayton2963 Obviously no, but there's plenty of sources out there for you to search up. I tried posting some links here but it just made my comment disappeared so you're going to have to search it up yourself
The Fat Electrician Special.
Surely that unlocked some kind of perk
Must have been cool hearing the trophy unlock sound when that happened
Sergeant Talaiasi Labalaba, the Battle of Mirbat. Amazing heroism.
Should have got a VC
RIP Laba
That wasnt an Operation pal
Huge difference
Between an operation and a battle
Civvies wouldnt know that
The South Georgia raid highlights Ernest Shackleton trek what a legend 👏
One adze and 50 ft of rope! For 3 men. The SAS troopers had much more gear and couldn't make it !
I went there (Recce Platoon, Royal Hampshire Régiment), 1982 after 1 Para relieved us is Fermanagh. We did a spot of climbing there. Had very little kit but on coming summer made things easier. I think it was Mt. Hodges about 6 of climbed during rest phase. The other thing we did which nearly turned disastrous was to take an old clinker built whaler. 6 out of 8 of us boarded the rowing boat. Got out of the kelp and into the sea. The boat was leaking terribly and going back was now awkward. I cannot remember from which whaling station we set off. We were on our way back from having patrolled out to all of them. (Patrols phase; defences phase; rest phase). I was patrol commander got a bollocking from our boss. That was hairy but made the Regimental journal. My old COP boss from the Fermanagh tour was impressed. That was good enough for me. Great tour.
You promised five, I only count four.
I feel shortchanged.
Probably lost in the re-upload.
Fun little story with thermal trivia too: About 3 months ago after a nice weekend skiing at our cabin, Sunday afternoon when packing up to go home we found out that the engine heater had crapped out overnight. So we made a call and got help from the fine folk at the army base a couple of km down the road, that came and towed the car to the base where it could sit inside one the mec maintenance halls to taw out for a couple of hours. At the base entry gate they have 2 fairly large temperature displays, one showing Celsius and one Farenheit. Looking at those was when I learned that the intersection point between Celsius and Farenheit is exactly -40° :)
Look up Paddy Mayne, there is a doc about his exploits. Legend.
John McAleese too
Absolutely 💯
Happy Monday everybody! Have a great week
You should do an episode about their operations against the IRA. The Loughgall and Gibraltar incidents were big news at the time
I've watched entire documentaries about each of these missions... but man Simon, your narration brings back all the excitement.
Kudos man!
Craziest SAS Operation is allowing the UK to be overrun .
Please do a video of talaisai labalaba, dipprasad pun or the rescue of Corporal Mathew Ford (Royal Marine). Legendary stories...ideal for your story telling manner.
Best side projects video for a whole. Everyone loves a good SAS story 😁
The old gag used to be in bad.taste,but went like this .the subjects have lit up more Embassy's than hurricane Higgins embassy being an old brand of cigarettes
And also the old sponsor of the world championship snooker so it works on 2 levels
brilliant vid,,as usual!!!,,,keep up the great work!
Simon got that visit from MI6 and had to censor a few things
I wonder what was wrong with the previous video which lead to reuploading 🤔
They cut out a few details of Operation: Nimrod on how some of the hostage takers were put up against a wall and shot by the SAS.
@Jobe00 They wanted to do that but they didn't, there were news helicopters overhead .
@@Jobe00 Why lie?
@@jedaaa They didn’t do that to the last guy found among the hostages outside, by two of the terrorists were executed in the embassy after they surrendered. This was in the previous version of the video.
@@THE-X-Force I’m not lying. The previous version of the video mentioned this part.
Excellent narration, thanks very much. 😀🇬🇧
How many channels is this cat on?!? Dude is EVERYWHERE 😮
Operation Flavius and Operation Judy were carried out by SAS. But people aren’t so keen to talk about that stuff anymore.
Regarding Operation: Nimrod, there was an excellent Mark Strong movie called 6 Days. To my knowledge, they got most of the main points of both the operation and the events leading up to the seige mostly correct.
The BBC doc made years before is far better than 6 Days if you want to know more of the truth about what went on then.
@@RJM1011 Name?
Finest lance corporal ever
@@THE-X-Force John
@@onevastanus lmao .. name of the BBC Doc, please? Is it "John"?
Lots of inaccuracies such as the RAF don’t operate the Lynx
6:20 Wow, this AI depiction has some wild lighting. For a moment I thought it was a stock photo with some cheapo "close enough" gear and non-specific balsa wood helicopter.
Why haven't I got any of his stuff on my feed in ages.
I used to save episodes up and binge them for years.
Those AI depictions are hilarious. Rifles with sideways optics, and double front sight frames
As for the last mission, SAS: Rogue Heroes does a pretty good job of depicting it
Was just about to mention that series. Glad to say that season 2 should be on our screens this year.
Hoping for Season 2. And Operation Tombola.
@@nomadmarauder-dw9re How about season 3 , operation do nothing , as UK is overrun and our childrens future destroyed ?
Can you do the Canadian special ops? As a Canadian we were never taught about them
During the incident in Africa the day before the attack there had been a face to face meeting to hear the demands of the captors which ended with the British sealing the deal with a lot of booze to take back and celebrate the talks and promises made on both sides....... just to make sure they were not fit the next morning......
The south Georgia story is full of action and a bit of a shock for the Argentinian forces right from the beginning, and the story of the SAS attempts is covered by the helicopter pilot that flew the only surviving helicopter ( which also very nearly crashed in a white out) back to safety.
The pilot tells of having to fly by the instruments because everything was totally white and zero visibility, the blue fox radar was the same as the harriers and designed to follow the contour of the sea to keep as low as possible, but unknown to the helicopter crew the radar had taken them into a cravas that wasn't very wide, it was flying them up and down the contours of the cravas and was only realised when one of the crew saw the blades chopping the cravas wall.
"Operation Paraquet", an alternative spelling of parakeet, it was known among British troops as "Paraquat", after the induatrial weedkiller.
Funny thing that the yanks think seals and rangers are badass... SAS are the elite.
There’s an argument that one is better than the other; out of the SAS and SBS but I don’t want to get into it. “Quickly, there’s no time”!
~Bryan Mills
No, it's the SBS. The SRR seem to be the most impressive of British Special Forces.
I find it weird to have the SAS listed as the best special operations in the world when groups like the SAD, the Sayeret, and so on exist and based on known accomplishments are of a level greater than the SAS though likely very nearly peers with the SBS.
@@nochannel1q2321SRR are purely recce. It's just 14 intel corps. It was created during the restructure of SF which was done to take the load off SAS because they did everything. So 1Para went to SF command, the SBS were brought up to the level of SAS which is when they did the joint selection and opened the SBS up to the tri force as before then only Royal Marines could join them. Even army Commandos couldn't join, so SAS got the infantry but also all the sappers, signals, reme, artillery ect. The SBS just had maritime infantry. They also started to cross pollinate, so the Paras started to work more with the SBS and Royals more with SAS. As for the SBS being better now however then there's absolutely nothing to indicate that. There's a myth knocking about that they go on continuation training after being badged but all SF do. SBS and SAS boat troop go off together, SAS mountain troop go off and do advanced mountain and arctic warfare training ect. Civvies think that SAS just gets badged and then magically know all their specialties but as great as they are, they're not magic. Regardless the SBS do a deep sea diving course which unless you're fighting mermaids isn't much use. Even then during Herrick they weren't doing continuation training because there was no point learning to deep sea diving in a war in a landlocked middle eastern country. I know Paras who were penguins for a year because again they just needed soldiers out there so didn't bother until they got back. The only difference between SAS and the SBS is sas take lead on ground ops and the SBS take lead on maritime.
In terms of the best ever then no one knows because they never go up against each other. All we do know is other SF seem to say "the Brits".
@me5969 based on difficulty of admission and then number of those passing the training the SAS is like the regular UK army, the SBS is like the SAS and the SRR Re like the SBS.
It probably should've been an indicator of how much of an explanation of them I needed.
E: Ego aside no one ominously calls any UK special forces unit the "anything." That probably sounds like a cool thing, but it's not something that happens in reality. If there's a close local relationship there'll be nicknames and without a close local relationship no one says anything as the commanders issuing the orders aren't going to be submitting their orders with that kind of stuff.
@@nochannel1q2321is English your first language? I don't know what you're trying to say. SAS and the SBS do a joint selection. I was in 2Para (Parachute Regiment). I know lads who've been on it. They're both a tri force, so you can join from any branch (at least from the Iraq days). You volunteer and then either get signed off or don't. usually they keep you at battalion if there's a tour coming up. So for example I went out to Sangin in 08 so if I put a request in (not that I'd been in long enough to be allowed by that point. But say I'd been in for 5 years) then they wouldn't have let me on SF selection until after the tour. Anyway you all end up in it together. Royals, Paras, sappers, reme ect. It's joint run by the SAS and SBS. You can even change midway. So you can put a request in for the SBS but decide during selection that you want to join SAS instead. You see what I mean? They literally do the same thing until they get what's referred to as "badged" and then they go on and do continuation training. That's where the SAS and SAS boat troop go off and do deep sea diving, SAS Mountain Troop go off and do their thing. SAS Air Troop and Mobility Troop go off and do their training ect. What you're doing is basically comparing 2Para to 3Para. There are no separate figures for pass rates with the SBS and SAS because it's a joint selection. They literally do it together. SAS are not like the green army or regular army as you called it. SRR as ally as they are are purely recce. It is literally 14 Intelligent Corps. I don't mean they're similar. I mean it is literally the same but renamed. They're the best at recce but they don't do all the door kicking and raids, hostage rescue, black kit (counter-terror) ect that the SAS and the SBS do
@@nochannel1q2321in terms of other SF teams, I'm referring to interviews with US and Canadian SF on things like Shawn Ryan ect. No lads down the pub
The world’s best special forces team is one you haven’t heard of and likely never will.
There was an SAS trooper who lived with the Afghan Army by himself as far as we could tell. We lived with the Gurkha quite a bit and the trooper would stroll up to the checkpoint in the mornings for breakfast.
Excellent episode.
When’s the new switch come out? And can I transfer my games over?
It's just as crazy being family. My father Terry Jickells was A Sq 22 SAS for over 20 years and my Uncle Pete was G Sq. Trust me the families can be unhinged. Yeah, we got to hear some of the stories too.
Another bad ass operation was the raid on Peterhead prison. I've been on the prison tour that deals specifically with this operation and it's a brilliant story.
That one came off just before Nimrod?
Am I missing something.
1) Nimrod
2) Baros
3) Parat
4) Hassan Airfield
That's 4 not 5....just you know, the basics
Thatcher issued the order for a “Shoeing”….and said “shoeing was issued!” 🤣🤣
On the Nimrod front, they only used flashbangs, which give off smoke but no tear gas. The guy on the stairs was relatively silent. Rusty Firmin ID'd him, couldn't shoot him as the bullets would go right through him so pushed him down the stairs where 3 guys shot him. 78 bullet wounds in total which is approx 2 seconds from each gun pointed at him.
Simon, you should have a look at the serous scouts, incredible soldiers.
A friend of mine was actually one of those captured by the West Side Boys, something he explained was purely down to the arrogance of his patrol leader who was looking for a little action. Having survived that, he got shot in the arm by a pellet gun driving a bus in Wolverhampton. Needless to say I do wonder if he carries a target on his back!
The operation was informally known as Operation Certain Death by the way!
That's Wolverhampton for ya!He was probably safer in the jungle! 😊
@@shaundavenport621 Probably!
the LRDG traversed the desert a lot and became very good at it, so much so, they became known as the ghost patrol by the italians, sadly im pretty sure a lot of them died at the raid on tobruk that failed when only 2 boats made it through into tobruk and the royal marines who were meant to land near by never made it because the frigate got sunk iirc
Let’s mention the ones who don’t get mentioned. The SBS. Who train American Navy Seals in survival in Artic conditions. Who work in two or three man teams and have pulled off attacks and rescues we don’t necessarily hear about until later.
Can you hold your breath for 3 minutes in freezing water? That’s what they train to do. As yet a U.S. Navy Seal managed 2 minutes just.
The closest being a Norwegian soldier who lasted 2mins 38 seconds.
Stop with the BS the SBS don’t train to hold their breaths. That would be a serious waste of time
We had one of the troopers come to talk to us at work and he told us about the West Side Boys operation. He said that they had a guy called Mad Tony came up with the plan. He then said that every organisation needs a Mad Tony. At that moment, all eyes in the room turned to look at me. Their own Mad Tony.
What a terrible attempt at bragging.. so cringe..
Jesus dude... delete this.
If you know you are mad you are not.
"Symphony of chaos" I like it Siy!
I appreciate that the real footage of the Iranian Embassy Siege is used. There is actual footage of the Faulkland Island war, too.
Those AI dipictions are beyond brutal.
Plus the incidental events like handling the plane crash casualties of flight 092 at Kegworth (crashed on approach to East Midlands Airport).
Genuine question, as I'm not expert on such matters... Are US Navy Seals not considered to be the pinnacle of special forces? Are SAS more trained than Seals? Who wins in a head to head?
I was a week away from my 17th birthday at the time of the Iranian Siege... I can still remember as if it was yesterday my Dad and i watching Cricket on television at home on a lovely summers day. Suddenly the coverage was interrupted by LIVE TV of a load of mystery men brutally storming the Embassy! This was my first serious introduction to the SAS and I have purchased everything i can literature wise ever since and followed Heroes like John 'Mac' McAleese and Eddie Stone although i don't watch the TV stuff about civvies and 'celebrities' doing these 'are you tough enough' BS programmes. These make a mockery of the whole ethos of what it takes to be a member of the GREATEST SPECIAL FORCES in the world.
0:45 - Chapter 1 - Operation nimrod
4:50 - Chapter 2 - Operation barras
8:35 - Chapter 3 - Operation paraquet
12:20 - Chapter 4 - Raid on sidi haneish airfield
4? I thought there was suppose to be 5
Outstanding. Well done.
Just out of curiosity, a question about the Operation Nimrod. Who authorized the SAS to go into what is effectively a foreign country, the Iranian embassy? Was it Thatcher’s (plus the cabinet) or did they ask the Iranian government for permission?
From memory it was from the police chief ( my mate's dad ) authorized to the military by Willie Whitelaw via Maggie.
@@pooooornopigeonI think the way it worked was that the Police Commissionaire requested approval from the Whitelaw to hand over control to the military. This was given then the ranking police officer at the embassy then officially signed over control to the army. A similar process when the RUC requested the help of the army in the sixties in Northern Ireland.
@@TheGiff7 Regardless my mate's dad signed it over, years later I saw the note in ' the kremlin '
I would love to see a deep dive of SAS in the Falkland Island itself.
Can confirm, Paddy Mayne is too cool to look back at the explosions.
Sheesh it must take a really special person to sign up and partake in SAS operations or any law enforcement branch for that matter. Hell, even being a fireman is scary as hell.
You forgot to give the paras a mention in the Sierra Leone mission.
The video's about what the SAS did, Einstein.
One Para 💪💪💪
@BarbaricAvata he mentions the bootnecks are they SAS?
“I have a plan so cunning you could put a tail on it and call it a weasel”. Proud geez !!
Good video. to put up after the last one
This video brings back happy MW, MW2 and MW (2019) memories 😊😊😊
Haha, when I was a kid, the Winter Rules were, if it is -20C, I had to have parental supervision. If it was -40C, I had to play inside. Anything lower than that and it was time to batten down the hatches. Then we moved to Australia, in the middle of June, so, Winter. People thought we were crazy for going to beach when it was 14C. That was like a warm Summer's day to us.
When I moved there in Appril it was the same thing, shorts and tee shirt, I told the Aussies these are British summer temperatures.
Great video!!
Now I'm going to request another one....
Same video, but with the SBS!! Picture and Link this video in the description of the other one, that way we can compare and contrast the two forces....
They have have the same training, only difference is the SBS are under the home office and SAS are under the foreign office .
This was an amazing video. God bless the SAS
any chance you can upload 4K instead of 1080?
put SAS-R in there too
SAS in general have successful operation is that do exactly what enemy knows they going to do, but they put unique twist that wasn't expected.
Not really a successful op is getting everyone back alive
The Battle of Mirbat.
Wonder how the SBS feels about that description of the SAS?
any chance a dive in the fusilier? i believe there were 9 regiments that distinguished as fusiliers.
John "Mac" Mc Clease was one of the SAS and he helped train my American Team. He has died and they are making a memorial for him. Op Nimrod.
Dose your editor live in Czechia or why do all your channel say they are from there?
In operation nimrod one of the plans that was quickly dismissed was to sneak a few SAS operatives in to the embassy in the early hours and dispatch the X rays while they slept. But this idea may paint the SAS in a bad light and make some people accuse them of blatant murder.
It would be best if you prompted the AI to depict Wessex HAS3 (instead of Bell UH-1 "Huey") in Operation Paraquet.
The SBS the far less celebrated but at least if not more highly trained brothers to the SAS.
Not more or less but just a different emphasis
Well done Simon.
The embassy one survivor that made it out was going to be dragged back into the embassy, and the SAS trooper’s then noticed the cameraman.
Annoyingly he now lives in a council flat in SE London and gambles with the taxpayer's cash.
@@pooooornopigeonDox?
@@nomadmarauder-dw9re Try using English words.
@@pooooornopigeon I did.
@@nomadmarauder-dw9re No that is a non word, time for you to grow up.
That embassy balcony was massive.
May 1980 Princesses Gate.
The window charge was over purchase as JM who put in the Charge. The terrorist with the grenade was hit with a double tap to the chest. The dead hostage was pushed out the front door...
I’d love to see some stories about the SBS.
I remember that embassy siege on the telly as a kid. That was the stuff of legends. Total unconditional respect for all our armed forces past and present.
My classmate's dad was a hostage. It was a tense 6 days.
How about a video on Operation Colossus, the SAS raid that happened before Stirling formed the SAS?
Wasn't the SAS then, was it?
@@Tactical_Hotdog I believe it was the LRDG (Long Range Desert Group) prior to the SAS. My knowledge is a bit rusty.
@@cushionmonkey9535 Colossus specifically was First Airborn
@@Tactical_Hotdog No. 11 Special Air Service Battalion. The name was used before Stirling’s unit was formed. There doesn’t seem to be any link to the modern regiment, rather it’s just an oddity of early war unconventional warfare that the name an earlier use.
It’s the SAS, just not The SAS.
Edit to add- Originally No. 2 Commando, No.11 Special Air Service Battalion was renamed 1st Parachute Battalion and was part of the formation of the 1st Parachute Brigade, and hence first airborne after the operation.
😂😂😂😂🤦♂️
The sas was unmuzzled lol
Cry Havoc....
I really enjoyed this.
As an American, I'm always going with Top Tier American Special Forces, but if I didn't have them I would want the SAS or SBS.
i love when 5 really means 4
There is only 4!!! you short changed me TangentBoi!
Wasn't a SAS raid but obi one Nairobi. The SAS Trainer who rescued from a hotel in Nairobi, hostage.
10:47 Hahaha, AI made a picture with 2 front sights on an operator’s rifle!
Why not? I have two sights on my rifle? 🤷♂️
re the fourth account, The SAS were to launch attacks and conduct operations, the LRDF were the "bus drivers". As time progressed, they all cross trained and became skilled at both units specialties. The Deset Rats.
The Desert Rats were the 7th Armoured Division of the British Army, nothing to do with the SAS or LRDG.
"The Desert Rats" was the nickname given to the 7th Armoured Division which was part of the British Army it mustered up to about 15,000 men with around 350 tanks.
The nickname came from the fact that in 1940 the Division started to use an in insignia of a Jerboa on its vehicles. The Jerboa is known as the desert rat.
Anyone know which was 5th that had to be removed to allow the re-up?
I really wish I had known that fact about driving with 1 hand because I failed my first road test because I only drove with one hand the whole time. I woulda been soo smart if I could have said the SAS had to storm the lufftwaffen air base in a jeep with 1 hand shooting and 1 hand steering😂❤
All of those who fought with the LRDG and the fledgling SAS in North Africa are absolute legends - they truly were the best of the best of the best by far. They all went into Ops knowing that there was a fairly good chance they would not come home - if the Axis powers didn't kill them, the environment would - I have walked through the North Africa desert - it is brutal and it is unforgiving. This country does not laud it's true heroes anything like as much as they truly deserve. I have known a few UK Tier 1's and I know a shed load of Tier 2's - one I used to know (Tier 1) was possibly SBS, not that Rob would ever confirm or deny anything - but even at 60 he was harder than most nails, but ever so unassuming.