The Isle's Acro is coming to Evrima... eventually. But, why? Credits: Charcarodontosauridae lineup: Mario Lanzas (YT) Acro skin variants: Alex Gruber (ArtStation)
Giving Acro a large scavenger niche does sound interesting. But if they do so, I hope they avoid the weird mistake they did with Cera and actually make it an actual scavenger instead of the most competent predator in the game. Because honestly I often forget that Cera was meant to be a scavenger.
@@Tikialia a niche is sort of a role that a creature holds in it's ecosystem, something (usually) unique to it that let's it thrive amongst competition, creatures that have similar niches is something that's better avoided, as it lowers diversity.
As a fellow Chad acro enjoyer I can go with the "apex" scavenger role. Acro bullies most of the mid tiers in the game now like there is no tomorrow so the devs can just amplify it in evirma. I still say he should keep his "sauropod hunter" role by preying on small/young ones while giga can go for the adults.
Acro being in a weird spot is true, it's too big and strong to be mid-tier but it's also too small and weak to be apex. But that's why I'm so excited for him, the fact that he doesn't fit into either of those categories makes him a unique dinosaur.
I see what you mean but i believe the devs will find a way to make it fun and unique, the rex thing is more of a crush and a pin while the concepts for acro is more of a choke, which i think has some really cool potential given how they go about it, I have faith!
To be honest I wish the devs would remove some of the more generic/unnecessary carnivorous theropods from the roster and replace them with more unique/weird creatures that aren’t often/ever depicted in games/paleomedia. For example there’s only one semi aquatic herbivore on the roster, Minmi, and even then it doesn’t actually swim, it just sinks - removing say Alberto and replacing it with something like Atopodentatus, Lurdusaurus, or Koreaceratops (I know the last two weren’t actually semi aquatic herbivores but they’re often depicted that way) would mean that while sure the roster would be the same size, it would be filled with playables that actually add something valuable to the game. Or alternatively adding more Pterosaurs to the game (having only two planned is ridiculous imo) would be a much better choice than having more carnivorous theropods that all have roughly the same mechanics/gameplay; adding pterosaurs like Pterodaustro (would fill the role of a filter feeder - something not planned yet at all), Tropeognathus (filling the role of an albatross and/or frigate bird, stealing food from Pteranodons and potentially even diving underwater to catch fish), or Thalassodromeus (filling the role of a “smaller quetz”, hunting land prey) would be great and would actually justify having the big roster more than what the devs are doing right now.
Honestly though we already have beasts of bermuda with tropeognathus and pterodaustro would likely be just smaller and even easier to play ptera (whom is also so small it is near impossible to see), and would fit very well in my opinion as an uncommon ai that filter feeds along some lakes. Thalasso’s role also sounds like it would be filled by young quetzes. I would instead add an omnivorous/herbivorous pterosaur or specialized scavenging pterosaur for some more variety than “bigger seabird” or “smaller quetz”, of which there are two basically perfect options. One is istiodactylus, a nearly ptera sized pterosaur thought to be specialized mainly for scavenging. As its ability it can perhaps “slice” bits off bleeding creatures in order to get food in case there are no carcasses (it has slicing teeth made to rip flesh so I’m taking that liberty to make it have something else to do). It would be able to fly for long distances, losing altitude slower and rising much better than ptera would, allowing it to scower long distances it would need to search for prey in due to being unable to fish. At a carcass it would lose against literally any other adult predator (including ptera because ptera is slightly bigger) except maybe a single troodon, relying on locating and reaching carcasses first with its keen sense of smell and perhaps some sort of “blood sense”. It also would absolutely suck at predation of most anything bigger than a hypsi or a very young animal since they’re just gonna run away after the first bites as while it deals bleed its raw bite damage isn’t very big. The omnivore/herbivore will be tupandactylus, which would also be around ptera size, though I would specialize this one towards ground life, and any omnivory it might have will be more along the lines of the gallis omnivory, eating small animals like crabs and lizards while preferring high energy nuts, fruit, and seeds for its plant diet. Tupandactylus will be a versatile critter, a good climber able to land in trees, and able to run at decent speed and with good agility. However its flight, while turning extremely easily and very quick to take off, is tiring and loses height much faster than other pterosaurs, necessitating walking and running as common means of transport. In a way tupa is a giant peacock (and heck we might be able to do the dewlap thing herra has with its crest). It eats things, is super flashy, and flies away from problems. Also it probably wouldn’t be able to eat grass as a last resort because it has unrivaled mobility when searching for food.
Yes! I personally think they should adapt the playstyle from legacy, but improve it (way faster heal, better bleed resist). Almost everything was perfect about acro in legacy in my opinion
@@TheKingofCoral I thought it was alright, because acro can be seen eadily most of the time and has luttle stamina. So if you were far enough away it usually wasn't a problem. But if you get a bit too close or ambush one then a cera or allo would have no chance, yeah. I get making it a little bit slower too, no problem with that. But in my ooinion it should still be pretty soeedy for being so big, but of course with the very low stamuna from legacy still.
@@SmurfieDurfieit wasn’t alright at all, a 5 ton dinosaur being faster than a 2.8 one? Easily able to trot down mid tiers and then close the distance with the run Yeah now it is super unbalanced
@@misterionorman9764 It was op in some aspects. Especially fast trot things being able to trot things down is always kind of unbalanced. To be fair I think the fact that it is easily spottable and has a very low stamina pool made up for it, but not entirely. But yes I agree that it was still too fast. If you don't see it fast enough and acidentally get too close it's unfair as a mid tier, as you have no chance. I think it should still remain fast for its size, but not be way faster than mid tiers, yes.
The niche you suggest is literally what acro's niche was in legacy, though, to a ridiculous degree in legacy as it was able to catch nearly everything in the game.
Plus gracile que le rex et le giga oui mais pas de beaucoup car sont torse et presque aussi massif proportionnelle que ces 2 theropode il suffit juste de grossir le giganotosaurus et le rex et c’est tous .
Anyone else remember when they made Cerato a 4T monster that couldn't even outrun a Giga, but was capable of murdering everything that wasn't apex? (and also had to because had a like 30 min hunger timer) lol
acro is one of my favorite dinosaurs and im very excited for it to be added to the game, and i think your soltion is great, i would love for it to be a massive scavenger, i can already picture it acting as a big cerato, i think this would be a great way to add it to the game
For me, Acro’s identity revolves around being a “giant slayer”. It should be a sauropod specialist, much more so than any other large carnivore. Acros should have mechanics that make it a nightmare for sauropods to escape from. Let the giga keep its flesh grazing, the Acro should be the one creature in the game that reminds the sauropod players that they aren’t invincible.
I think what the devs are going for with Acro is fine enough, IF executed correctly. Changes to pounce as indicated by the last devblog may also affect this, by that I mean giving the pounces victims options to fight back
Acro is definitely my favorite dino and I'm excited for it but you're right, it really does need to operate within its own niche in order to not just be useless from a gameplay standpoint. I am fond of your solution, personally. They really need to commit to reasons to play a dino when other dinos are released otherwise one dino will just be an objectively better version of another.
The fact is even if the acro isn’t good or has a place in the isle due to better creatures and the acro just not having a place in the roster, it should be there. Because people still play dryo. Dryo is a bad Dino but people play it because they like dryo as a Dino. Having the selection to just be your favorite Dino is important to the roster. Having Dino’s that are the same but different sizes or whatever is fine. Because in real life lots of these Dino’s are generally similar to each other but all serve their own purpose of existing.
Id personally say creatures like Megalania and Magy are more forced than others like Acro. I like the idea of Acro but its just another addition i need to see how it is when its actually out to have a solid opinion
bro just threw me in for a loop roasting Acro over a pit, only to Hype my guy up in the second half of the video XD got me lost on what to think. I was ready for war haha
In my honest opinion I think Acro would be a perfect target for an environment specific creature. Acro seems to be concepted as a grappler creature and I think environment could help carve out a niche. The way I envision Acro is a creature that lurks in heavily forested or rocky areas, never truly wanting to be out in the open because when it grabs it's prey it can actively use the environment to fracture it, cause more damage or throw them off balance. This means that whilst Acro can still hunt out on the open plains, it's weight will be the only factor in grappling and obviously bigger creatures such as Sauropods and other apex carnivores could counter it's gimmick. So Acro wouldn't want to hunt out in the open but instead remain camouflaged as best it can and wait for the perfect opportunity to yeet lesser Dinosaurs into or off of a cliff face. The ultimate bully and environmental creature.
You have to remember with different tiers of Dino’s they might not pair with multiple apex’s on the same server and they might have him on a separate server where he could be the apex himself just a thought to think about because they did confirm once there’s enough Dino’s that server might have different amount and types of Dino’s to there own 🧠
@@TyrannosaurusRex1997 your name is litteraly Tyrannosaurus rex, your just a mindless fanboy who hops on the Rex hype train and can’t have any imagination, It’s a video game therefore each creature is made as a playable character with ability’s that partain to however the devs see the creature, yes we know Rex is the strongest irl you dont need to spew all that, concept art shows acro taking on a trike and cama solo so that alone makes this new acro a strong foe, go tell someone else how strong Rex is
@@JDINK It's always a stupid comment to call someone a fanboy. I like both dinosaurs. I am just stating the facts. The Tyrannosaurus rex should rip Acrocanthosaurus head off after pinning it if we are going by gameplay.
I think Acro should be a Theropod Tank! Even though it is smaller thank Giga and just a bit bigger than Allo... it can control the population of anky or other armoured/spiked herbivores.
@@acrocantho_saurus That wouldn't work either, because Rex has almost twice as much hp so it'll naturally be way tankier than anything below it's size, since it's around 9-10 tons while Acro is around 5 tons. It is probably gonna be a like Tarbosaurus without looking like a discount T.Rex, which I'm honestly fine with, I'd much prefer having an Acro that acts like a Tarbosaurus than actually having Tarbosaurus.
This is exactly what happens when you have dinosaurs from different time periods, or different ecosystems and put them all in one place My opinion? Remove acro completely, or switch it for something else that actually fills a niche properly
That's the problem with mixing a lot of animals from different times and places with similar niches in a "realistic" themed game Acro was the Apex predator in North America after Allosaurids and before Tyrannosaurids Giga and Carchar lived at the same time but probably never competed
Oui mais carcharodontosaurus vivait avec d’autre theropode, spinosaurus, bahariasaurus, delthadromeus, abelisauridae indet avec qui il aurait été en concurrence de temps en temps surtout pour bahariasaurus sous forme de megaraptoridea( 12.2 - 12,8 m ) , abelisauridae géant indet ( ~ 9 m + ? )
@@laseriedeladilophosaure9246 But they had different niches. Spinosaurus was a fisher mostly, Carcharo was the Apex hunting the larger prey. Abelisaurids were the medium sized hunters and Bahariasaurus is a very dubious specimen (a quimera that probably didn't existed).
Similar animals with similar niches are not necessarily a bad thing, a "smaller and more agile Giga" can play an interesting role in The Isle's ecosystem, in addition to increasing the number of playable animals, contributing to a richer game in terms of gameplay and playstyle choices. In addition, different animals can have similar niches in the game, Ceratos and Carnos hunt similar prey sometimes and this even in the Legacy version of this game. The truth is that niches, even if they are completely different dinosaurs, will never be exclusive of each other. The idea that each animal will only have its own niche all the time is unrealistic to me. An Acro can focus his forces on younger giant herbivores and medium-sized carnivores (Ceratos, Allos, Carnos) and can contribute to interesting population control, avoiding large numbers of medium-sized carnivores on the servers and perhaps, indirectly with this action, contributes to more small-medium sized herbivores growing on the server. There is nothing "forced" about adding Acro to EVRIMA.
I actually have thought of that idea you are mentioning for a long time. Turning acrocanthosaurus into a big cerato..lovely idea! And it could maybe get an mechanic like maia is in its concept art. That you could run into to dinos to stun or (even) flip them because acrocanthosaurus is a big boi. To like scare away them from a corpse or something. That would be dope as heck. Or if thats not the case..make it a wrestling dino lol..gosh i hope that acro gets what it needs. Its my favorite dino 🙏
I like Evrima's Acrocanthosaurus. Its chunkiness and unassuming face make it absolutely adorable to me. As for gameplay, I think Acrocanthosaurus should use its weight to slow sauropods down while simultaneously mauling them. Basically the Acro hunt in Monsters Resurrected. It can't jump, but it can run up to sauropods and hold onto them using its jaws and hand claws, dealing bleed damage as well as draining stamina. To give the sauropod a chance, if they buck the acro off, then it will be stunned for 8 seconds and take more damage when knocked down. So Acro players can't stay latched forever and will eat dirt if they do.
imo having multiple dinos with similar or even the same abilities isnt a bad thing since theyre still gonna look differnt. its like having a different skin selected
What would be cool, considering the throat attacks, is heavy bleed and tracking. Make Acro slow, bulky, but a tracker. Once its commited to its large throat attack, it causes a lot of bleed, forcing a fight or flight. Either can be good depending on the dino, flight works if they are super fast and can get far enough away to recover bleed (or have the mutation for it) or can fight. Make Acro susceptible to fractures (due to its chunky size) and long recovery for stuns, but tanky against bleed and regular damage. The counter to Acro would be to weaken but not kill, so you can get away from its fat butt. If you commit to a fight, its hard to kill, if you commit to running, itll track you down. So either stay away or if it attacks, weaken it and RUN
Personally I find giga being faster despite looking chunkier makes it more terrifying cuz I'm here for it picture of strong men a strong man is surprisingly fast despite being extremely big they can run faster than the average human believe it or not
I feel like Acro should hunt the Juvinile and Sub Adult Sauropods while Gigas go for the adults and elders. Basically Acro would be a “Sauropod Population Control for babies.” Another niche he could fill out is just being a Gigantic scaveger bullying mid tiers and Small tiers off bodies.
That's what I was thinking for Acro Cerato of the Apex tier. Afterall it's one of the smallest of the apex tier(Pseudo Apex) Granted it should still be able to dog with smaller sauropods/large herbis.
Elle est réaliste acrocantosaurus avait beaucoup de masse et de muscles du cou puissant pour pouvoir arranger des énormes morceaux de chair de sauropode n’oublié que les requin sont des arracheur de chair mais ont une puissante mâchoire et sont aussi très massif proportionnelle pour sertain: megalodon par exemple.
The game needs a more realistic damage and HP meter... Let's say a lucky acro could cripple a rex and then kill it, so they are a threat too as an apex.
Honestly the similarities to cerato you proposed also made me realise that bothe hace somrthing very similar in their concepts, both cera and acro are shown latching to a sauropods neck, may just be copium but you also may be unto something with the cerato similarities
I think acro could solve the issue by being a tank/apex hunter Imo it should have mid damage and enough hp to tank a good amount of hits from apexes like anky and stego
Giving acro a scavenger role sounds interesting to me, but let's double role it: turn it into a mid-tier carnivore hunter or a sauropod hunter, or both. This way its not just a big dinosaur being pushed off of bodies, its also a hunter. It'll increase its survivability in the game.
3:40 Well, from a game designe perspektiv you are correct, and the difference between a game ecosystem and a real ecosystem are two completly different beast. But the (interesting) thing is that in nature, the many predatory carnivore species are in an ecosystem, is a sign of a healthy ecosystem. thing only starts to feel excesive when we start to compere things to areas with antropogenically reduced carnivore guilds.
@@gergomolnar2193 may be worth noting though that this is *modern* times. Modern times are not directly comparable to mesozoic ecosystems as alot of the smaller animal niches are taken up by juvenile and subadult dinosaurs, both on the herbivore and carnivore sides. It’s why we have tons of species of antelope, deer, and equiid roaming the plains but only one species of hadrosaur in an area. Young mammals don’t really start eating and living by themselces and when they do they more or less do it like their parents. Young dinosaurs would likely start feeding themselves much, much sooner after being born and actively have their own niche. It’s why we have hyenas, cheetahs, lions, crocodiles, leopards, and lycaons in the modern african savannah but in Cretaceous NA only Tyrannosaurus rex existed as the land predator with the second largest hunter being a crocodilian comparable to more modern sized specimens and dromaeosaur the size of a turkey as dakotaraptor didn’t exist due to being a Chimera and Nanotyrannus is a persistent endless debate which has shaky evidence to back it up. Nothing else could really claim alot of the mid sized predator niches as the juveniles already did that. We would have probably found such a dinosaur by now as is shown with the Morrison and its 3 giant carnivores patrolling the same general region supported by the bounty of sauropods which likely flooded their environments with eggs and young while niche partitioning by eating different foliage, living in entirely different places, and/or possibly migrating.
I feel like there is already a distinct enough difference with the ideas they're going for. Acro's mechanic will be more like a lion, biting on and using stamina and maybe some movement interactions to hold and "DoT"/suffocate dinos using its bulk to hold the creature somewhat in place. Rex's pin and crush could be more like an "execute" bonus you can activate say when a dino is at very low HP to forgo having to beat down the last 10% or whatever they go with. This would play into the rex's power and make it dangerous to get low on health when fighting the rex.
1:15 j’aime vraiment les modèles robuste de dinosaures theropode( non tyrannosauridea) donc je suis pour leur modèles les carcharodontosauridae n’était pas des animaux mince car il chasser des très grand proie donc il est tout à fait logique que acrocantosaurus soit représenté comme ceci donc il est crédible car acrocantosaurus avait beaucoup de muscles et masse pour abattre des grand sauropode de 18 + m pour des masse supérieure à 25 tonnes donc il faut plutôt que le giganotosaurus et le rex grossiste et deviennent plus massif un peu comme dans le documentaire prehistoric planète si ont veut être dans les norme actuelles des grand theropode et acrocantosaurus devrait être du statut petit apex car c’était le super prédateurs de sont environnement et que sertaine représentation de l’animal avoisine les 12 m de longueur pour une masse 7.5 - 8.5 tonnes avec le massif modèle de the isle
acro mains would have a similar experience to anyone playing Beta Isle against Allosaurus Allo's where Asses to my memory and a pain in the neck if there was 2 and now to Acro mains will have to imagine everything is an allosaurus
Problem? Over bloated roster, the game doesnt need 60+ Dinosaurs, period. It completely wastes time and money on classes that'll end up being obsolete anyways. The Devs are making a big mistake and need to reconsider.
They should give acro a blood thinning bacteria that makes bleed even more worrisome but it’s more affective on heavy and speedy opponents that go with it’s scavenger role if it sounds stupid then idk I can’t even play evrima just excited to see it
As someone else said in the comments, making acro more agile to the other apexes in comparison would give it a niche of being more moblie, and ironically thats what it is in legacy (though with speed cranked to ridiculously degree). The niche is there and last I remembered carchar was supposed to be a giga model swap not a full on playable.
As a Acro enjoyer on POT, I am so glad seeing it coming back to The Isle, but I am super worried about it being unable to be played without being irrelevant and too unplayable
bro acro's ability to do deadly bleed and track/trot down its pray was the best part of its gameplay. I was always to satisfying seein acro mains do enough damage to cause its pray to run and heal, only to trot it down and kill it, making it impossible for you to heal in time. It was such unique gameplay for a massive dino that didnt have to rely solely on damage output to kill its pray, fast enough to out pace the apex but not too fast to run down every low tier dino. Acro imo was the best example of a slow but engaging fight, most apex fights are just sitting and waiting until ur op makes a mistake or out damage ur op. acro is such an intrestin dino to where i'll actually be upset if they just make it a mini rex cuz as of rn, we dont rly have any dinos that do this kind of trackin/hunting or ones that utilize scent that much
acro and dibble were the most fun dinosaurs in legacy. acro was the nemesis of all midtiers. everything you could kill couldn't escape once you were in ambush distance. Everything that overpowers and be able to kill you, you could keep distance or get away with trot and sprint easily. Only herds with theris were dangerous. Our group of 4 killed many, many solo rexes. And even halflife and with bad regen you could still fight of 2 allos and come out on top.
I hope so much that it will be great still! Acro was my favourite playable in legacy, though there were some horrible balances (the heal T-T) it was super fun to me as a pseudoapex. It stands above every mid tier while still being fair due to being very visible and having little stam and still able to be fought in groups. But even then it was possible to kill apexes, I did sometimes, while it was more challanging and fun than doing it with apexes, it was still very possible and I did it sometimes. Honestly how acro was balanced in legacy I personally think was perfect, exept for the heal and weird growth scaling that sandbox dinos had, aswell as the super bad bleed resistance that most sandbox dinos had. Challanging enough to be very fun to me, but not being a pushover at all aswell for most playables.
Giga and Rex should be the only carnivore apexes. Bart fits the Fisher Nische better than Spino and Carcha as well as Acro are too similar too Giga. I am instead voting for more Herbivore apexes such as Shantungo
I know. As other examples, a large Ankylosaurid could work or a small, armored Sauropod like Saltasaurus. The point is, when they will add tons of Carni apexes, everyone is gonna play them and it won't feel realistic or balanced anymore. And more like PvP only than Survival@@Blood_SC
Je pense également que les dinosaures de the isle ne devrait pas tous être gratuits dès le départ pour équilibrée un peu mieux le jeu un peu comme proir extinction qui a aussi 2 créature qui sont la même niche acrocantosaurus et torvosaurus et peut-être Saurophaganax bien que le considère un peu supérieur au 2 autre .
I think harmonizing scavenging and stamina pool would help for sure, me personally I think acro should be the Dino with the most health in my opinion but that’s just me
Acro suffication, rex bonebreak, giga bleed. And to me giga should be faster than rex, and acro somewhat in between giga and rex whilst having the most hp and stam.
I would like if they made acrocanthosaurus a really fast dinosaur that was big and muscular since scientifically it was byilt for running and endurance
I feel like the isle is an example of too many species in such a limited ecosystem, there’s only so many niches and you begin to run into problems. It’s an issue that plagues all games, the isle is just one that suffers the most I think
Problem is that why would anyone bother playing the Cerato if they can just play a bigger version of it. I think for the most part, out of all the current dinos in the game, the devs have made them each unique enough that playing as one feels very different from the other. They should definitely continue with this trend and I hope they give the Acro a unique enough playstyle that it doesn't detract from other dinos.
A really good idea that acro would be an apex scavenger. But one thing I think would be good if acro have a ripping bit, but not like giga but like a grab like the concept. I think the grab should do a lot bleed damage for a short amount of time and make hard to land on mid/ low dino’s. So if a dino runs after being grabbed, it will lose more blood than normal. Follow ins real if counterpart So it would take some skill if wanna land it on smaller targets. But, bigger targets will have the acro do it more often similar to giga to get the max bleed on the target. Trying to base it of what dilo had in the isle 1. But, not flesh grazing and more like ripping the skin so it can bleed more.
Tbh they could simply remove Giga and Carchar (both are already redundant), while keeping Acro and giving it all of Giga's skills. There is no need for larger bleeders imho
God, i hope in the end Acro is genuinely good. But with its current state, could possibly end in a bad way. Hopefully they make it how, or similar too how you described it.
Love the idea of acro being a scavenger and can I add some thing, because of the high stam, acro may be slow but could run for a long time and this will allow it to keep up to some fast dino herds like teno, also I think acro should be filled by not a lot of food cuz that way it won't have to try and bully rexes to just get food
Could give it some buff for forming packs, kind of like the gali has when they hear each other call. Having a reason to keep their numbers up would would help it stand up to the larger playables.
This thing will basically be just a bigger cerato but with a whole different ability and just more allofied if that makes sense. I don't really think it's forced, I see potential for it but I never really had strong opinions about this thing either. It's kind of just, there. But cool video and I get where your opinions come from. I'm still excited for this chunky boy and I might main him a lot when he comes out.
In my own opinion or concept, I think acrocanthosaurus should be a jack of all trades dino, but not like allosaurus does it. Every dinosaur in the game have their strengths in a specific aspect, while making acrocanthosaurus good in many aspects, but not the best. Acro could have good raw damage, bleed, tankiness speed, and stamina, while other dinos mostly focus on one or two, being the third or second best of most things. Acro can serve as good bridge between apexes and mid tiers, being a viable threat for both. To specify, the decent strength could make it a challenge to subadult apexes, while being considerable problem still even as they reach adulthood, and maybe make them still a threat by making them have decent packs like up to 3 (And to better differentiate, maybe make giga mostly a solitary dino, but still able to be in pairs). Furthermore they can simply outstam, outrun, outtrot, or simply just avoid them. For mid tiers they can simply outrun, outstam, or outmanuvear it, making acro needing to make use of stealth and ambush if they want to get any of them. Larger mid tiers or groups of mid tiers can threaten a lone acro, or maybe prove problematic for acro packs. And maybe if a large mid tier like alberto or allo is skilled enough, they can kill one. (Also note, I think they should just remove that chocking mechanic. I think it's best to give it to alberto or some strong brawler or bone breaker mid tier) Also to stick with being a bleeder, while interpreting my idea of a decent tanky and raw damage brawler, it should have the bleeding capabilities of taking on armored less and large herbivores, while having the tankiness and raw strength to take on armored prey aswell. Overall I think acro can provide a playstyle for players who wish to not be to powerful, but still be strong and respectfully feared, able to take on most of the roster or successfully get away from. Able to be powerful, while having many challenges to face. Also unlike apexes they can survive of mid tiers. What do you guys think of this concept or idea?
Before they revealed Rex’s pin and crush I was really hyped to see Acro had a choke move. Because I imagined that would make acro the smallest and most lethal apex even when solo, acro being able to kill in one bite and deplete your oxygen while holding you down while unable to vocalize or talking in chat. Acro can’t win by damage or bleed but all he needs is to land a choke and the 1v1 is over. Now knowing what Rex can do it’s kinda hard to think of something for Acro that wouldn’t make it a pushover or ridiculously strong. The scavenger king niche sounds good but the issue is, like with Cera, the tools for that are often used to be proper hunters. Combat wise Cera is legit the best carnivore atm all that’s to stats and abilities that were supposed to make it a kleptoparasite.
May be worth noting that from an ecosystem perspective cera being a good hunter as well as kleptoparasite was inevitable, “scavengers” that aren’t specialized birds like some varieties of vultures will hunt and will do so with proficiency, like wolverines, bears, and hyenas. Of which TI cera seems to perfectly slot in as the “wolverine” of this game, a mid sized carnivore with an extreme possessiveness over carcasses, repulsive but not outright lethal chemical weaponry (bacteria for, TI cera, powerful musk for wolverines), and a robust body built to take harm of the more gracile predators its swiping kills from, which also helps it hunt because being built like a brick also helps with subduing prey. Heck some vultures (known as rippers) are even built to do so and have strong beaks made to rip into struggling animals just as much as to rip into the outer skin of a carcass, first slamming into their prey with their large bird bodies to disorient it and then delivering the killing blow.
I would much prefer Acro than Carcha. Carcha has no real unique play style, where Giga is a bleeder and Acro suffocating their prey, Carcha is very simuler ro both. But Acro is a more unique Apex/Semi-apex, and Giga is just a better hunter in every way. We don't need Carcha. I also feel as though Rex will still differ from Rex, as Rex is more focused on slamming, pinning and and crushing, compaired to Acro's pinning and strangling.
I completely agree with acro being a large scavenger cuz cerato being the only real scavenger to clean up rotten carcasses throughout the map with such a large roaster…that’s too much for one playable, having another will help clean up carcasses that doesn’t overshadow cerato as its small enough to avoid acro as well as consuming smaller carcasses a fully grown acro wouldn’t bother with.
Tbh if they wanted something to clean up carcasses they should have gotten something that can actually reach them in a timely and effective manner like a scavenger pterosaur. Also I don’t think cera is all that fast.
Im worried that as apexes get added, you just wont see much else being played. It always feels like the biggest issue in dinosaur games is making each dinosaur unique enough and actually stand enough of a chance to not be invalidated or effectively driven to extinctiom because of being a worse version of another dino or just getting bullied too hard by other dinos.
people played all kinds of dinos in legacy. You didn't just see a ton of apex running around. In fact, if you played on Life Finds a Way back in the day, the only apex you would see was me and my friends. We killed off all other apex as soon as they reach sub adult. That's how Evrima will be. You will have 1 alpha pack of apex that rules over the entire server.
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Giving Acro a large scavenger niche does sound interesting. But if they do so, I hope they avoid the weird mistake they did with Cera and actually make it an actual scavenger instead of the most competent predator in the game. Because honestly I often forget that Cera was meant to be a scavenger.
this niche is taken by alberto
what is a niche oh my god i keep seeing everyone say it in the isle discord but outside that theres nothing about niches in survival games
Cerato is weak though. If it's not on top of a body, it is very easy to kill. Dilo and Utah have no problem killing a cerato.
@@Tikialia a niche is sort of a role that a creature holds in it's ecosystem, something (usually) unique to it that let's it thrive amongst competition, creatures that have similar niches is something that's better avoided, as it lowers diversity.
@@Tikialiaits basic english
As a fellow Chad acro enjoyer I can go with the "apex" scavenger role. Acro bullies most of the mid tiers in the game now like there is no tomorrow so the devs can just amplify it in evirma. I still say he should keep his "sauropod hunter" role by preying on small/young ones while giga can go for the adults.
I never thought gigs would be able to take down a big sauropod like Camara
acro players the most annoying players
@@lnon4361 typical Acro hater would say.
@@thegek345 I'm rank 1 asscro hater
Acro being in a weird spot is true, it's too big and strong to be mid-tier but it's also too small and weak to be apex. But that's why I'm so excited for him, the fact that he doesn't fit into either of those categories makes him a unique dinosaur.
I see what you mean but i believe the devs will find a way to make it fun and unique, the rex thing is more of a crush and a pin while the concepts for acro is more of a choke, which i think has some really cool potential given how they go about it, I have faith!
everytime I see those concept arts for future dinos I get hyped but then I remember I'll be dead by the time they get released
To be honest I wish the devs would remove some of the more generic/unnecessary carnivorous theropods from the roster and replace them with more unique/weird creatures that aren’t often/ever depicted in games/paleomedia.
For example there’s only one semi aquatic herbivore on the roster, Minmi, and even then it doesn’t actually swim, it just sinks - removing say Alberto and replacing it with something like Atopodentatus, Lurdusaurus, or Koreaceratops (I know the last two weren’t actually semi aquatic herbivores but they’re often depicted that way) would mean that while sure the roster would be the same size, it would be filled with playables that actually add something valuable to the game.
Or alternatively adding more Pterosaurs to the game (having only two planned is ridiculous imo) would be a much better choice than having more carnivorous theropods that all have roughly the same mechanics/gameplay; adding pterosaurs like Pterodaustro (would fill the role of a filter feeder - something not planned yet at all), Tropeognathus (filling the role of an albatross and/or frigate bird, stealing food from Pteranodons and potentially even diving underwater to catch fish), or Thalassodromeus (filling the role of a “smaller quetz”, hunting land prey) would be great and would actually justify having the big roster more than what the devs are doing right now.
Or tupandactylus as an herbivorous pterosaur would be way more unique than generic theropod #12.
Honestly though we already have beasts of bermuda with tropeognathus and pterodaustro would likely be just smaller and even easier to play ptera (whom is also so small it is near impossible to see), and would fit very well in my opinion as an uncommon ai that filter feeds along some lakes.
Thalasso’s role also sounds like it would be filled by young quetzes.
I would instead add an omnivorous/herbivorous pterosaur or specialized scavenging pterosaur for some more variety than “bigger seabird” or “smaller quetz”, of which there are two basically perfect options.
One is istiodactylus, a nearly ptera sized pterosaur thought to be specialized mainly for scavenging. As its ability it can perhaps “slice” bits off bleeding creatures in order to get food in case there are no carcasses (it has slicing teeth made to rip flesh so I’m taking that liberty to make it have something else to do). It would be able to fly for long distances, losing altitude slower and rising much better than ptera would, allowing it to scower long distances it would need to search for prey in due to being unable to fish. At a carcass it would lose against literally any other adult predator (including ptera because ptera is slightly bigger) except maybe a single troodon, relying on locating and reaching carcasses first with its keen sense of smell and perhaps some sort of “blood sense”. It also would absolutely suck at predation of most anything bigger than a hypsi or a very young animal since they’re just gonna run away after the first bites as while it deals bleed its raw bite damage isn’t very big.
The omnivore/herbivore will be tupandactylus, which would also be around ptera size, though I would specialize this one towards ground life, and any omnivory it might have will be more along the lines of the gallis omnivory, eating small animals like crabs and lizards while preferring high energy nuts, fruit, and seeds for its plant diet. Tupandactylus will be a versatile critter, a good climber able to land in trees, and able to run at decent speed and with good agility. However its flight, while turning extremely easily and very quick to take off, is tiring and loses height much faster than other pterosaurs, necessitating walking and running as common means of transport. In a way tupa is a giant peacock (and heck we might be able to do the dewlap thing herra has with its crest). It eats things, is super flashy, and flies away from problems. Also it probably wouldn’t be able to eat grass as a last resort because it has unrivaled mobility when searching for food.
You crazy classic dinos are the best
Weird fucking small dinos are lame af like hypsi or thay small theri
Theres beipi and deino who are semi aquatic
I think they should just make it a fast semi apex that can bully anything smaller than it but in packs able to take down apexes
Yes! I personally think they should adapt the playstyle from legacy, but improve it (way faster heal, better bleed resist). Almost everything was perfect about acro in legacy in my opinion
@@SmurfieDurfie acros speed was unbalanced tho it could just run down allos and ceras
@@TheKingofCoral I thought it was alright, because acro can be seen eadily most of the time and has luttle stamina. So if you were far enough away it usually wasn't a problem. But if you get a bit too close or ambush one then a cera or allo would have no chance, yeah. I get making it a little bit slower too, no problem with that. But in my ooinion it should still be pretty soeedy for being so big, but of course with the very low stamuna from legacy still.
@@SmurfieDurfieit wasn’t alright at all, a 5 ton dinosaur being faster than a 2.8 one? Easily able to trot down mid tiers and then close the distance with the run
Yeah now it is super unbalanced
@@misterionorman9764 It was op in some aspects. Especially fast trot things being able to trot things down is always kind of unbalanced. To be fair I think the fact that it is easily spottable and has a very low stamina pool made up for it, but not entirely.
But yes I agree that it was still too fast. If you don't see it fast enough and acidentally get too close it's unfair as a mid tier, as you have no chance. I think it should still remain fast for its size, but not be way faster than mid tiers, yes.
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totally agree with you, also hi Acronym :>
The niche you suggest is literally what acro's niche was in legacy, though, to a ridiculous degree in legacy as it was able to catch nearly everything in the game.
Plus gracile que le rex et le giga oui mais pas de beaucoup car sont torse et presque aussi massif proportionnelle que ces 2 theropode il suffit juste de grossir le giganotosaurus et le rex et c’est tous .
"Sauropod dwarf that lived isolated from danger? Nah acro is the most forced addition in the isle." -Gold
@@SputnicWasTaken forced is to kind a word for magy. Magy is the most braindead/ pointless/ idiotic addition to the game
The niche partitioning for this game is crazy asf with all of those playables.
Anyone else remember when they made Cerato a 4T monster that couldn't even outrun a Giga, but was capable of murdering everything that wasn't apex? (and also had to because had a like 30 min hunger timer) lol
acro is one of my favorite dinosaurs and im very excited for it to be added to the game, and i think your soltion is great, i would love for it to be a massive scavenger, i can already picture it acting as a big cerato, i think this would be a great way to add it to the game
Me as well. Ever since I read the "Raptor Red" novel.
Since when was it being added to the isle evrima? Is it?
@@JamesTiceee always has been planned for the game
If acro dosent get good sense of smell or good speed then
NEVER LETTIN ISLE DEVS COOK AGAIN 💀
You still letting them cook?😂
@@lnon4361 yes
@@lnon4361 I mean that's all they do? Been cooking since like 2015 Lmao
@@Blood_SC not Good cooking since evrima
@@lnon4361 True enough
Got my popcorn in everything.
You mean Buffet? 😂
@@dinohunter8669 lmao
they should add all the dinos that were in the base game and everyone who disagrees can punch sand.
For me, Acro’s identity revolves around being a “giant slayer”. It should be a sauropod specialist, much more so than any other large carnivore. Acros should have mechanics that make it a nightmare for sauropods to escape from. Let the giga keep its flesh grazing, the Acro should be the one creature in the game that reminds the sauropod players that they aren’t invincible.
I think what the devs are going for with Acro is fine enough, IF executed correctly. Changes to pounce as indicated by the last devblog may also affect this, by that I mean giving the pounces victims options to fight back
Acro is definitely my favorite dino and I'm excited for it but you're right, it really does need to operate within its own niche in order to not just be useless from a gameplay standpoint. I am fond of your solution, personally. They really need to commit to reasons to play a dino when other dinos are released otherwise one dino will just be an objectively better version of another.
The fact is even if the acro isn’t good or has a place in the isle due to better creatures and the acro just not having a place in the roster, it should be there. Because people still play dryo. Dryo is a bad Dino but people play it because they like dryo as a Dino. Having the selection to just be your favorite Dino is important to the roster. Having Dino’s that are the same but different sizes or whatever is fine. Because in real life lots of these Dino’s are generally similar to each other but all serve their own purpose of existing.
Id personally say creatures like Megalania and Magy are more forced than others like Acro. I like the idea of Acro but its just another addition i need to see how it is when its actually out to have a solid opinion
bro just threw me in for a loop roasting Acro over a pit, only to Hype my guy up in the second half of the video XD got me lost on what to think. I was ready for war haha
I like Acro, chonky. Scavenger role sounds good, the relationship between Cerato and Acro would be similar to Lions bullying Hyenas off kills
In my honest opinion I think Acro would be a perfect target for an environment specific creature. Acro seems to be concepted as a grappler creature and I think environment could help carve out a niche. The way I envision Acro is a creature that lurks in heavily forested or rocky areas, never truly wanting to be out in the open because when it grabs it's prey it can actively use the environment to fracture it, cause more damage or throw them off balance. This means that whilst Acro can still hunt out on the open plains, it's weight will be the only factor in grappling and obviously bigger creatures such as Sauropods and other apex carnivores could counter it's gimmick. So Acro wouldn't want to hunt out in the open but instead remain camouflaged as best it can and wait for the perfect opportunity to yeet lesser Dinosaurs into or off of a cliff face. The ultimate bully and environmental creature.
You have to remember with different tiers of Dino’s they might not pair with multiple apex’s on the same server and they might have him on a separate server where he could be the apex himself just a thought to think about because they did confirm once there’s enough Dino’s that server might have different amount and types of Dino’s to there own 🧠
I love this chunky boy and idc about realism, if I can wrestle down a Rex as a acro I’m content as it’s my main in legacy
Should never happen
@@TyrannosaurusRex1997 it should happen
@@JDINK It's just Acrocanthosaurus is smaller than Tyrannosaurus rex and definitely not as bulky and powerful etc
@@TyrannosaurusRex1997 your name is litteraly Tyrannosaurus rex, your just a mindless fanboy who hops on the Rex hype train and can’t have any imagination,
It’s a video game therefore each creature is made as a playable character with ability’s that partain to however the devs see the creature, yes we know Rex is the strongest irl you dont need to spew all that, concept art shows acro taking on a trike and cama solo so that alone makes this new acro a strong foe, go tell someone else how strong Rex is
@@JDINK It's always a stupid comment to call someone a fanboy. I like both dinosaurs. I am just stating the facts. The Tyrannosaurus rex should rip Acrocanthosaurus head off after pinning it if we are going by gameplay.
I think Acro should be a Theropod Tank! Even though it is smaller thank Giga and just a bit bigger than Allo... it can control the population of anky or other armoured/spiked herbivores.
Isn't that just Rex ?
@@ALunaticWithAShotgun acros attacks should be weaker, hes just more durable
@@acrocantho_saurus That wouldn't work either, because Rex has almost twice as much hp so it'll naturally be way tankier than anything below it's size, since it's around 9-10 tons while Acro is around 5 tons. It is probably gonna be a like Tarbosaurus without looking like a discount T.Rex, which I'm honestly fine with, I'd much prefer having an Acro that acts like a Tarbosaurus than actually having Tarbosaurus.
@@ALunaticWithAShotgunun rex à une masse moyenne de 7,500 - 8,500 kg seul Scott et sue E.D cope rex ont une masse supérieure à 9,000 kg .
I love how this game makes people want to study how ecosystems work. It's basically what tier zoo teases
This is exactly what happens when you have dinosaurs from different time periods, or different ecosystems and put them all in one place
My opinion? Remove acro completely, or switch it for something else that actually fills a niche properly
Because the neck... we like the neck, literally just make him the same as allo but slower and give him the neck of the gods.
I say we make acro be the heaviest carnivore in the game to make it more of a threat and believably hunt sauropods solo.
That's the problem with mixing a lot of animals from different times and places with similar niches in a "realistic" themed game
Acro was the Apex predator in North America after Allosaurids and before Tyrannosaurids
Giga and Carchar lived at the same time but probably never competed
Oui mais carcharodontosaurus vivait avec d’autre theropode, spinosaurus, bahariasaurus, delthadromeus, abelisauridae indet avec qui il aurait été en concurrence de temps en temps surtout pour bahariasaurus sous forme de megaraptoridea( 12.2 - 12,8 m ) , abelisauridae géant indet ( ~ 9 m + ? )
@@laseriedeladilophosaure9246 But they had different niches. Spinosaurus was a fisher mostly, Carcharo was the Apex hunting the larger prey. Abelisaurids were the medium sized hunters and Bahariasaurus is a very dubious specimen (a quimera that probably didn't existed).
Acro is North America's Dino. An evolved form of Allosaurus. He has every right to be in the game.
In legacy, acros ambush was just about as fast as a carno, but burned almost all its stam
The new Isle Acro is adorable :>
I like the choke I can finally say “sleeeeeeeep…..sleeeeeep” while slowly choking out a stego
Similar animals with similar niches are not necessarily a bad thing, a "smaller and more agile Giga" can play an interesting role in The Isle's ecosystem, in addition to increasing the number of playable animals, contributing to a richer game in terms of gameplay and playstyle choices.
In addition, different animals can have similar niches in the game, Ceratos and Carnos hunt similar prey sometimes and this even in the Legacy version of this game. The truth is that niches, even if they are completely different dinosaurs, will never be exclusive of each other. The idea that each animal will only have its own niche all the time is unrealistic to me.
An Acro can focus his forces on younger giant herbivores and medium-sized carnivores (Ceratos, Allos, Carnos) and can contribute to interesting population control, avoiding large numbers of medium-sized carnivores on the servers and perhaps, indirectly with this action, contributes to more small-medium sized herbivores growing on the server.
There is nothing "forced" about adding Acro to EVRIMA.
Acro can fit a niche as a small to mid game hunter that bullies like a hyena
I actually have thought of that idea you are mentioning for a long time. Turning acrocanthosaurus into a big cerato..lovely idea! And it could maybe get an mechanic like maia is in its concept art. That you could run into to dinos to stun or (even) flip them because acrocanthosaurus is a big boi. To like scare away them from a corpse or something. That would be dope as heck. Or if thats not the case..make it a wrestling dino lol..gosh i hope that acro gets what it needs. Its my favorite dino 🙏
I like Evrima's Acrocanthosaurus. Its chunkiness and unassuming face make it absolutely adorable to me. As for gameplay, I think Acrocanthosaurus should use its weight to slow sauropods down while simultaneously mauling them. Basically the Acro hunt in Monsters Resurrected. It can't jump, but it can run up to sauropods and hold onto them using its jaws and hand claws, dealing bleed damage as well as draining stamina. To give the sauropod a chance, if they buck the acro off, then it will be stunned for 8 seconds and take more damage when knocked down. So Acro players can't stay latched forever and will eat dirt if they do.
imo having multiple dinos with similar or even the same abilities isnt a bad thing since theyre still gonna look differnt. its like having a different skin selected
So a smaller Rex with the bacterial bite that cera has and minus the neck ability. I love it
What would be cool, considering the throat attacks, is heavy bleed and tracking. Make Acro slow, bulky, but a tracker. Once its commited to its large throat attack, it causes a lot of bleed, forcing a fight or flight. Either can be good depending on the dino, flight works if they are super fast and can get far enough away to recover bleed (or have the mutation for it) or can fight. Make Acro susceptible to fractures (due to its chunky size) and long recovery for stuns, but tanky against bleed and regular damage. The counter to Acro would be to weaken but not kill, so you can get away from its fat butt. If you commit to a fight, its hard to kill, if you commit to running, itll track you down. So either stay away or if it attacks, weaken it and RUN
I object, T.rex is slower than Acro and Giga is there to rival the latter, despite Acro likely being stockier than Giga.
I feel like allo would be the most pushed dinosaur next to spino
Personally I find giga being faster despite looking chunkier makes it more terrifying cuz I'm here for it picture of strong men a strong man is surprisingly fast despite being extremely big they can run faster than the average human believe it or not
I feel like Acro should hunt the Juvinile and Sub Adult Sauropods while Gigas go for the adults and elders. Basically Acro would be a “Sauropod Population Control for babies.” Another niche he could fill out is just being a Gigantic scaveger bullying mid tiers and Small tiers off bodies.
That's what I was thinking for Acro Cerato of the Apex tier. Afterall it's one of the smallest of the apex tier(Pseudo Apex) Granted it should still be able to dog with smaller sauropods/large herbis.
This guy is the exact reason no changes or new additions are ever added to this stagnate game
I really love the chunky acro. To be honest it's my favorite depiction of acro. (Not the most realistic.)
@@BJByochick it's peak
Elle est réaliste acrocantosaurus avait beaucoup de masse et de muscles du cou puissant pour pouvoir arranger des énormes morceaux de chair de sauropode n’oublié que les requin sont des arracheur de chair mais ont une puissante mâchoire et sont aussi très massif proportionnelle pour sertain: megalodon par exemple.
my answer to why... its a fucking awesome dinosaur! (its my favorite dinosaur)
Am I the only one who feels like the fat acro only looks fat on the angle, because in the concept art, it looks wayyy slimmer.
Il devrait être assez large si ont veut être réaliste.
i love my baby acro and i need my baby acro in the game
The game needs a more realistic damage and HP meter... Let's say a lucky acro could cripple a rex and then kill it, so they are a threat too as an apex.
Honestly the similarities to cerato you proposed also made me realise that bothe hace somrthing very similar in their concepts, both cera and acro are shown latching to a sauropods neck, may just be copium but you also may be unto something with the cerato similarities
Phat Cerato
I think acro could solve the issue by being a tank/apex hunter
Imo it should have mid damage and enough hp to tank a good amount of hits from apexes like anky and stego
The acro looks big, even bigger than rex and giga. They should shrink it's size.
Non la taille de giganotosaurus et de tyrannosaurus rex devrait être augmenté plutôt.
Giving acro a scavenger role sounds interesting to me, but let's double role it: turn it into a mid-tier carnivore hunter or a sauropod hunter, or both. This way its not just a big dinosaur being pushed off of bodies, its also a hunter. It'll increase its survivability in the game.
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Well, from a game designe perspektiv you are correct, and the difference between a game ecosystem and a real ecosystem are two completly different beast.
But the (interesting) thing is that in nature, the many predatory carnivore species are in an ecosystem, is a sign of a healthy ecosystem.
thing only starts to feel excesive when we start to compere things to areas with antropogenically reduced carnivore guilds.
@@gergomolnar2193 may be worth noting though that this is *modern* times. Modern times are not directly comparable to mesozoic ecosystems as alot of the smaller animal niches are taken up by juvenile and subadult dinosaurs, both on the herbivore and carnivore sides. It’s why we have tons of species of antelope, deer, and equiid roaming the plains but only one species of hadrosaur in an area. Young mammals don’t really start eating and living by themselces and when they do they more or less do it like their parents. Young dinosaurs would likely start feeding themselves much, much sooner after being born and actively have their own niche.
It’s why we have hyenas, cheetahs, lions, crocodiles, leopards, and lycaons in the modern african savannah but in Cretaceous NA only Tyrannosaurus rex existed as the land predator with the second largest hunter being a crocodilian comparable to more modern sized specimens and dromaeosaur the size of a turkey as dakotaraptor didn’t exist due to being a Chimera and Nanotyrannus is a persistent endless debate which has shaky evidence to back it up. Nothing else could really claim alot of the mid sized predator niches as the juveniles already did that.
We would have probably found such a dinosaur by now as is shown with the Morrison and its 3 giant carnivores patrolling the same general region supported by the bounty of sauropods which likely flooded their environments with eggs and young while niche partitioning by eating different foliage, living in entirely different places, and/or possibly migrating.
I feel like there is already a distinct enough difference with the ideas they're going for. Acro's mechanic will be more like a lion, biting on and using stamina and maybe some movement interactions to hold and "DoT"/suffocate dinos using its bulk to hold the creature somewhat in place. Rex's pin and crush could be more like an "execute" bonus you can activate say when a dino is at very low HP to forgo having to beat down the last 10% or whatever they go with. This would play into the rex's power and make it dangerous to get low on health when fighting the rex.
We need roided allo. Saurophaganax next please. That dino needs a spotlight for real.
1:15 j’aime vraiment les modèles robuste de dinosaures theropode( non tyrannosauridea) donc je suis pour leur modèles les carcharodontosauridae n’était pas des animaux mince car il chasser des très grand proie donc il est tout à fait logique que acrocantosaurus soit représenté comme ceci donc il est crédible car acrocantosaurus avait beaucoup de muscles et masse pour abattre des grand sauropode de 18 + m pour des masse supérieure à 25 tonnes donc il faut plutôt que le giganotosaurus et le rex grossiste et deviennent plus massif un peu comme dans le documentaire prehistoric planète si ont veut être dans les norme actuelles des grand theropode et acrocantosaurus devrait être du statut petit apex car c’était le super prédateurs de sont environnement et que sertaine représentation de l’animal avoisine les 12 m de longueur pour une masse 7.5 - 8.5 tonnes avec le massif modèle de the isle
acro mains would have a similar experience to anyone playing Beta Isle against Allosaurus
Allo's where Asses to my memory and a pain in the neck if there was 2
and now to Acro mains will have to imagine everything is an allosaurus
Problem? Over bloated roster, the game doesnt need 60+ Dinosaurs, period. It completely wastes time and money on classes that'll end up being obsolete anyways.
The Devs are making a big mistake and need to reconsider.
They should give acro a blood thinning bacteria that makes bleed even more worrisome but it’s more affective on heavy and speedy opponents that go with it’s scavenger role if it sounds stupid then idk I can’t even play evrima just excited to see it
As someone else said in the comments, making acro more agile to the other apexes in comparison would give it a niche of being more moblie, and ironically thats what it is in legacy (though with speed cranked to ridiculously degree).
The niche is there and last I remembered carchar was supposed to be a giga model swap not a full on playable.
As a Acro enjoyer on POT, I am so glad seeing it coming back to The Isle, but I am super worried about it being unable to be played without being irrelevant and too unplayable
bro acro's ability to do deadly bleed and track/trot down its pray was the best part of its gameplay. I was always to satisfying seein acro mains do enough damage to cause its pray to run and heal, only to trot it down and kill it, making it impossible for you to heal in time. It was such unique gameplay for a massive dino that didnt have to rely solely on damage output to kill its pray, fast enough to out pace the apex but not too fast to run down every low tier dino. Acro imo was the best example of a slow but engaging fight, most apex fights are just sitting and waiting until ur op makes a mistake or out damage ur op. acro is such an intrestin dino to where i'll actually be upset if they just make it a mini rex cuz as of rn, we dont rly have any dinos that do this kind of trackin/hunting or ones that utilize scent that much
acro and dibble were the most fun dinosaurs in legacy. acro was the nemesis of all midtiers. everything you could kill couldn't escape once you were in ambush distance. Everything that overpowers and be able to kill you, you could keep distance or get away with trot and sprint easily. Only herds with theris were dangerous. Our group of 4 killed many, many solo rexes. And even halflife and with bad regen you could still fight of 2 allos and come out on top.
I hope so much that it will be great still! Acro was my favourite playable in legacy, though there were some horrible balances (the heal T-T) it was super fun to me as a pseudoapex. It stands above every mid tier while still being fair due to being very visible and having little stam and still able to be fought in groups. But even then it was possible to kill apexes, I did sometimes, while it was more challanging and fun than doing it with apexes, it was still very possible and I did it sometimes.
Honestly how acro was balanced in legacy I personally think was perfect, exept for the heal and weird growth scaling that sandbox dinos had, aswell as the super bad bleed resistance that most sandbox dinos had. Challanging enough to be very fun to me, but not being a pushover at all aswell for most playables.
Giga and Rex should be the only carnivore apexes. Bart fits the Fisher Nische better than Spino and Carcha as well as Acro are too similar too Giga. I am instead voting for more Herbivore apexes such as Shantungo
Shants already on the list to be added... Smh.
I know. As other examples, a large Ankylosaurid could work or a small, armored Sauropod like Saltasaurus. The point is, when they will add tons of Carni apexes, everyone is gonna play them and it won't feel realistic or balanced anymore. And more like PvP only than Survival@@Blood_SC
Prior extinction acro is done betta
Oui littéralement
Je pense également que les dinosaures de the isle ne devrait pas tous être gratuits dès le départ pour équilibrée un peu mieux le jeu un peu comme proir extinction qui a aussi 2 créature qui sont la même niche acrocantosaurus et torvosaurus et peut-être Saurophaganax bien que le considère un peu supérieur au 2 autre .
Arco is my favourite dinosaur, always has been, always will be
All i can say... i love this chonki boi representation in this game
I think harmonizing scavenging and stamina pool would help for sure, me personally I think acro should be the Dino with the most health in my opinion but that’s just me
I love Evrimas Acro, but personally, the ark acended one is still my favourite, but I do agree with your points.
Ark est trop étroit 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ même comparé aux vrais acrocantosaurus
@@laseriedeladilophosaure9246 yes.
They should maybe give acro a large group limit.
Hyena mentality
It better be available from the select screen. Sucks you have to be added into a group just to play acro or have to pay just to be Albertosaurus
Acro suffication, rex bonebreak, giga bleed. And to me giga should be faster than rex, and acro somewhat in between giga and rex whilst having the most hp and stam.
I’m just hoping more Dino’s get added like the saurophaganax putting it into a similar role as the acro
I would like if they made acrocanthosaurus a really fast dinosaur that was big and muscular since scientifically it was byilt for running and endurance
Acrocanthosaurus had short legs in relation to its body, and its femur was longer than its tibia. It was not a particularly fast animal.
@@paulo157758 There are many animals that have those but are still fast
I feel like the isle is an example of too many species in such a limited ecosystem, there’s only so many niches and you begin to run into problems. It’s an issue that plagues all games, the isle is just one that suffers the most I think
Problem is that why would anyone bother playing the Cerato if they can just play a bigger version of it. I think for the most part, out of all the current dinos in the game, the devs have made them each unique enough that playing as one feels very different from the other. They should definitely continue with this trend and I hope they give the Acro a unique enough playstyle that it doesn't detract from other dinos.
A really good idea that acro would be an apex scavenger. But one thing I think would be good if acro have a ripping bit, but not like giga but like a grab like the concept. I think the grab should do a lot bleed damage for a short amount of time and make hard to land on mid/ low dino’s. So if a dino runs after being grabbed, it will lose more blood than normal. Follow ins real if counterpart So it would take some skill if wanna land it on smaller targets. But, bigger targets will have the acro do it more often similar to giga to get the max bleed on the target. Trying to base it of what dilo had in the isle 1. But, not flesh grazing and more like ripping the skin so it can bleed more.
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I'm still sad that almost no game has a playable Proper Iguanadon
Can you imagine an Iguanadon boxing against Apex?
They want to add too many dinosaurs to the Game and they're too similar to each other to be viable to develop realistically
Tbh they could simply remove Giga and Carchar (both are already redundant), while keeping Acro and giving it all of Giga's skills. There is no need for larger bleeders imho
God, i hope in the end Acro is genuinely good. But with its current state, could possibly end in a bad way. Hopefully they make it how, or similar too how you described it.
Love the idea of acro being a scavenger and can I add some thing, because of the high stam, acro may be slow but could run for a long time and this will allow it to keep up to some fast dino herds like teno, also I think acro should be filled by not a lot of food cuz that way it won't have to try and bully rexes to just get food
Could give it some buff for forming packs, kind of like the gali has when they hear each other call. Having a reason to keep their numbers up would would help it stand up to the larger playables.
This thing will basically be just a bigger cerato but with a whole different ability and just more allofied if that makes sense. I don't really think it's forced, I see potential for it but I never really had strong opinions about this thing either. It's kind of just, there. But cool video and I get where your opinions come from. I'm still excited for this chunky boy and I might main him a lot when he comes out.
In my own opinion or concept, I think acrocanthosaurus should be a jack of all trades dino, but not like allosaurus does it. Every dinosaur in the game have their strengths in a specific aspect, while making acrocanthosaurus good in many aspects, but not the best. Acro could have good raw damage, bleed, tankiness speed, and stamina, while other dinos mostly focus on one or two, being the third or second best of most things. Acro can serve as good bridge between apexes and mid tiers, being a viable threat for both. To specify, the decent strength could make it a challenge to subadult apexes, while being considerable problem still even as they reach adulthood, and maybe make them still a threat by making them have decent packs like up to 3 (And to better differentiate, maybe make giga mostly a solitary dino, but still able to be in pairs). Furthermore they can simply outstam, outrun, outtrot, or simply just avoid them.
For mid tiers they can simply outrun, outstam, or outmanuvear it, making acro needing to make use of stealth and ambush if they want to get any of them. Larger mid tiers or groups of mid tiers can threaten a lone acro, or maybe prove problematic for acro packs. And maybe if a large mid tier like alberto or allo is skilled enough, they can kill one.
(Also note, I think they should just remove that chocking mechanic. I think it's best to give it to alberto or some strong brawler or bone breaker mid tier)
Also to stick with being a bleeder, while interpreting my idea of a decent tanky and raw damage brawler, it should have the bleeding capabilities of taking on armored less and large herbivores, while having the tankiness and raw strength to take on armored prey aswell.
Overall I think acro can provide a playstyle for players who wish to not be to powerful, but still be strong and respectfully feared, able to take on most of the roster or successfully get away from. Able to be powerful, while having many challenges to face. Also unlike apexes they can survive of mid tiers.
What do you guys think of this concept or idea?
Before they revealed Rex’s pin and crush I was really hyped to see Acro had a choke move. Because I imagined that would make acro the smallest and most lethal apex even when solo, acro being able to kill in one bite and deplete your oxygen while holding you down while unable to vocalize or talking in chat.
Acro can’t win by damage or bleed but all he needs is to land a choke and the 1v1 is over.
Now knowing what Rex can do it’s kinda hard to think of something for Acro that wouldn’t make it a pushover or ridiculously strong. The scavenger king niche sounds good but the issue is, like with Cera, the tools for that are often used to be proper hunters. Combat wise Cera is legit the best carnivore atm all that’s to stats and abilities that were supposed to make it a kleptoparasite.
May be worth noting that from an ecosystem perspective cera being a good hunter as well as kleptoparasite was inevitable, “scavengers” that aren’t specialized birds like some varieties of vultures will hunt and will do so with proficiency, like wolverines, bears, and hyenas.
Of which TI cera seems to perfectly slot in as the “wolverine” of this game, a mid sized carnivore with an extreme possessiveness over carcasses, repulsive but not outright lethal chemical weaponry (bacteria for, TI cera, powerful musk for wolverines), and a robust body built to take harm of the more gracile predators its swiping kills from, which also helps it hunt because being built like a brick also helps with subduing prey.
Heck some vultures (known as rippers) are even built to do so and have strong beaks made to rip into struggling animals just as much as to rip into the outer skin of a carcass, first slamming into their prey with their large bird bodies to disorient it and then delivering the killing blow.
I would much prefer Acro than Carcha.
Carcha has no real unique play style, where Giga is a bleeder and Acro suffocating their prey, Carcha is very simuler ro both. But Acro is a more unique Apex/Semi-apex, and Giga is just a better hunter in every way.
We don't need Carcha.
I also feel as though Rex will still differ from Rex, as Rex is more focused on slamming, pinning and and crushing, compaired to Acro's pinning and strangling.
Dodn't mean to say "Rex will differ from Rex"💀💀💀💀.
I meant to say that I believe that Acro will still differ from Rex.
And I think that 'grappling' and suffocating would be a better way to phrase things.
Comment devrait être les écosystèmes pour the isle , tous d’abord il faudrait plusieurs écosystèmes
Plaine ( les dinosaures sont classés du plus gros aux plus petit les masse proposés sont mes propres estimation) je représente que les theropode
1 - giganotosaurus masse probable ( 9,000 - 11,000 kg)
2 - carcharodontosaurus masse probablement ( 7,800 - 10,000 kg ) modèle massif
3 - acrocanthosaurus masse probable ( 6,500 - 8,500 kg)
4 - Albertosaurus masse probable ( 3,500 - 4,000 kg + )
5- Allosaurus masse probablement ( 2,000 - 3,500 kg )
6 - carnotaurus masse probablement ( Avis personnel ~ 2,000 - 2,500 kg)
7 - Ceratosaurus masse probablement ( 1,200 - 2,000 kg )
8 - utahraptor masse probablement ( 500 - 800 kg)
9 - oniraptor ( 250 kg )
Forêt
1 - Tyrannosaurus rex ( 7,000 - 9,000 kg ( limite supérieur 9,700 - 10.400 kg)
2 - Suchominus ( 4,000 - 6,000 kg )
3 - Albertosaurus
4 - Ceratosaurus
5 - utahraptor
6 - oniraptor
Marécage
1 - Spinosaurus ( 9,000 - 14,000 kg )
2 - carcharodontosaurus
3 - Suchominus
Terre inondable
1 - Spinosaurus
2 - carcharodontosaurus
3 - Suchominus
4 - carnotaurus
5 - Ceratosaurus
6 - oniraptor
J’ai oublié le dilophosaurus ( 750 - 1500 kg) qui serait dans le biome forêt en 5 ème place avant utahraptor
I completely agree with acro being a large scavenger cuz cerato being the only real scavenger to clean up rotten carcasses throughout the map with such a large roaster…that’s too much for one playable, having another will help clean up carcasses that doesn’t overshadow cerato as its small enough to avoid acro as well as consuming smaller carcasses a fully grown acro wouldn’t bother with.
Tbh if they wanted something to clean up carcasses they should have gotten something that can actually reach them in a timely and effective manner like a scavenger pterosaur.
Also I don’t think cera is all that fast.
Im worried that as apexes get added, you just wont see much else being played. It always feels like the biggest issue in dinosaur games is making each dinosaur unique enough and actually stand enough of a chance to not be invalidated or effectively driven to extinctiom because of being a worse version of another dino or just getting bullied too hard by other dinos.
people played all kinds of dinos in legacy. You didn't just see a ton of apex running around. In fact, if you played on Life Finds a Way back in the day, the only apex you would see was me and my friends. We killed off all other apex as soon as they reach sub adult. That's how Evrima will be. You will have 1 alpha pack of apex that rules over the entire server.