@@UNoWhoitis23 Hogan Cena Roman and all the other dudes my guy @brianthomas3451 mentioned💯🔥who did triple nose create🤣😭where's Wyatt 6/Sucks rn. Bo Dallas should have got buried by Miz on the mic "you used to carry my bags, your whole group has won nothing combined" dude lost to karrion Kross same guy who jobbed to Jeff Hardy in 45 seconds. Boom era?? More like The jobber era.
Because iwc tries to pretend all the good stuff started under HHH .when we all know Vince started copies push,bloodline,made drew a top guy,put I c belt on Gunther . HHH literally booking on Vince's foundation. .I wonder how would a HHH led free of bloodline wwe will be
WWE has no storyline at all look at Drew McIntyre he is angry lingering around on Raw and Smackdown beating up wrestlers with no direction,no character development,no Wrestlemania 41 plans,WWE is still testing waters with match card it's either CM Punk against Roman Reigns,CM Punk against Seth Freakin Rollins, The Rock against Cocky Rhodes so I totally agree with you
Yea drew is kinda boring. The commentators mentioned that Sami is 0-10 against him and it’s like oh ok so why should we care about Sami if he’s such a loser?
@Austin-l1j because of the stupidity booking that Sami Zayn is this kinda underdog which sidelined and derailed Chad Gable's momentum heading to Wrestlemania 40
Drew is the best character in the WWE rn. He has plenty of direction, but if you're one of those who expects instant resolution to storylines, you're not gonna understand what's going on. Drew going after who he's going after (the OG Bloodline) makes all the sense in the world. Same as Roman choosing to hit Seth instead of focusing on Homelander.
@@Austin-l1j Drew is the most interesting character in the WWE rn. It sure as hell isn't Sami, Cody, or Gunther (what a borefest). Sami is just annoying at this point. Drew should be able to move on from him.
Vince McMahon, didn't invent wrestling or built WWE from scratch. The company already existed under his father Vince Senior. What his son did, was just make the WWE bigger (not wrestling as a whole), but he needed Hulk Hogan to do that. Vince didn't do it, all by himself.
@@jasminebourne1787 Because the segments now are a lot better. Go back just a few years ago. He was bringing the company down in his advanced years. The Maximum Male Models thing, the Miz and Morrison segments with the super soakers or whatever they were. He should NEVER come back.
I bet you once Vince McMahon comes back CM punk is out of there in WWE triple H doesn't know what the hell he's doing and the ratings show you tell you that triple H try to make wrestling to serious and there's no fun and there's no characters build up at all and yet nobody don't want to come out and say it
Vince Kennedy McMahon need to open his own company which could be competitive to other promotions because wrestling business runs in his veins and keep his shareholder status as part of WWE,he doesn't need to go back instead he need to do it independent
Vince At least made wrestling looked family-friendly when it was TV-PG and made it fun to watch unlike Noseman who is trying to make it 100% Serious which is Destroying the company.
@@UNoWhoitis23 I am not saying it is better, but even though I didn't like it that much, it is more memorable than Today's garbage, the Attitude Era is the best Era Ever.
When things go bad in the HHH era everyone always blame Vince. 2021 WWE is better than this nonsense we have. And, I swear WWE pays ppl in their comments to constantly write “this is cinema”.
@@abdouamamria6216 The trash booking was under VKM. Wake up. Look back to what was going on before SummerSlam 2022. After that? 1000% improvement. VKM being gone is what's best for business, and VKM sucks.
@@jadis40 bro I've been watching since 2008, and I know how terrible WWE has been from 2017-2022, and yes in 2023 WWE was good, but everything changed after WrestleMania 40, think about it, all the storylines are predictable af, Cody Rhodes is having one of the worst title reigns I've ever seen, all the ppv's have been disappointing (except SummerSlam,bad blood), the thing with Vince is , he takes risks , he can surprise u in good and bad ways, he does a bit of everything, while hhh has just 1 formula, and after WrestleMania 40 this formula hasn't been working
I agree, Vince needs to come back and give his oversight. The norm in America is that people despise successful people they revel in their downfall. Since NXT BLK N GLD days, every wrestler that the fans and/or hardcore fans wanted over Vinces' choice flopped after a matter of months. Or when they left the WWE and went to elsewhere (AEW), they failed and that's where you can truly gauge their potential. You literally could see why Vince didn't believe in said talent but that if you had the same eye for talent also. Most people don't understand that most these guys NEED the machine behind them to succeed, very few have the talent to stand alone and be successful or evolve into success without having any weaknesses. Daniel Bryan and Kofi Kingstons title reigns stand out the most. Against Vinces' wishes he gave the people what they wanted and it failed miserably! Now where is Daniel Bryan? Vince never turned New Day into heels because they were cash cows, ITS A BUSINESS! Triple H couldn't beat AEW in those Wednesday night 'wars' and then Vince immediately rebranded NXT to 2.0! Vince knows because Vince is the Originator. If it wasn't for Vince American wrestling would still be in the territories.
I never understood the appeal about Daniel Bryan. He was absolute 🗑 🚮 🗑 🚮 on the mic and had the worst catchphrase of all time. The Miz was justified in reading his files on that edition of Talk Smack. Miz is 50x the superstar Daniel Bryan ever was.
@@JBtheJMB84 Classic case of the fans hijacking the product. IT forced Vinces' hand. In hindsight, looking at it, at Mania 30 they had this man beat the entire evolution in one night. His reign fizzled out within a few months and they had Kane talk him out (kayfabe), so they can get him out the way and push Roman (Big Dog).
@@khesipresents1885 partly yes. i just liked raw is war logo most. i have seen lots of iterations since. what you pointed out was great too. current one sucks
thats kinda why I sort of disagree with the hater on oba femi and trick williams not becoming top guys and being the next baron corbin guys, the roster is so f'ing bad that you mine as well let those 2 guys become top guys, they atleast look intimidating to an extent
It's a good thing he left. It's a good thing he sold the company. He was running it into the ground. Outside of Roman, there were a lot of really cringeworthy things he was doing. Thankfully he's gone now. Like Roman told Theory: "Your daddy's not here any more."
@@jadis40reigns is a pathetic hypicrite for saying that. Without Vincent Kennedy McMahon nobody would know who reigns is. He was pushed down people's THROAT for YEARS
Wow, the Hater now just straight up doesn't care if people rp other people. I'm pretty sure Vince should be in jail right now, but no, the Hater thinks women should be rpd and is okay with it.
The downfall of wrestling should be blamed on the 2 guys that have been making hires in the last 10 years in Tony Khan and HHH, cause they have a fetish for these indie outlaw workrate jobbers who have no star power and the only argument supporting the fact that these guys should be pushed is " Well they outdrew Cena/Roman in merch sales in one quarter", But do they outdraw Roman/Cena in ratings, live gates and ppv buys🤷🏾♂️??, If they don't then why should they be pushed over guys that are all rounders in terms of drawing power 🤷🏾♂️...
The world is changing, Those in charge do not want the younger generation to know what masculinity and testosterone is. Hence why in all endeavors, not just professional wrestling, soyboys and masculine females are now the face of everything instead of folks who actually draw money. Regular people don't understand this because they believe everything is about money. No. These people make the money, they don't need yours. It will increase exponentially within the next few years, even if you stop watching wrestling right now everything else that you love will soon become infested with these types of people, if it hasn't been already.
Vince McMahon? The same guy who started this cringe PG Era in 08? Pass. Compare Wrestlemania 17 to Wrestlemania 18. WWE was falling off hard in the early 2000's and by the late 2000's wrestling was for man children and kids.
He had no choice but to go pg after the benoit tragedy. And WM-17 and X8 are two of the best manias ever. Yeah i can tell you left as a viewer after X-7 when austin went heel, that's when select people said wrestling wasn't cool anymore.
@marcusjohnson7321 Wrestlemania 18 is just Taker vs Flair and Rock vs Hogan. The rest of that card was mid. Also Mr Kennedy who worked at WWE at the time said WWE was going more PG before Chris Benoit did what he did. The proof is there too when you compare 2003 WWE to early 2007 WWE.
This is 2024. It's not the Attitude Era, it's not the Ruthless Aggression era. Before he was shown the door, over all the WWE sucked with him in charge.
@@jadis40 lockdown era was better than the neckbeard era/Indy era. And it had more viewership and more star power. Would you rather watch Jeff Hardy or Johnny Gargarno
@@SOM-v4o tribal chief? because roman had to fight for that character to be put on tv, but vince is actually smart, he didn't try and argue, he knew it was time for a change, and he agreed, and booked roman very well, usually when someone fights for a change against vince, vince sort of gets upset, and kinda buries them, but he knew this would make him money and transcend the wwe, so he did it, I remember when vince was cool with undertaker trying to transition his gimmick to bikerman/american badass undertaker, that was pretty cool
Nobody is saying vince didn't do it because he has a long history of getting away with crimes, despite this only being an "Allegation" it's not out of his character to do so. Even if he didn't do it this specific time, how the legal system operates (And i'm speaking from being ex law enforcement), is it seeks to punish you for all the times you've commited the crime and *haven't* been caught. People will pretend like they don't understand this, and will regurgitate garbage they've heard on tv "innocent until proven guilty, protect and serve", yadda yadda yadda. That being said, I don't care about any of this. I use a product based on the quality of the product, I do not care about these people's personal lives. If the product is good, I watch. If the product is bad, I don't watch. Simple. Working in law you see that this type of behavior among those in the upper class is the norm and not an exception. Even if Vince is found guilty for what he may or may not have done, you have 100 other people in the Wwe who have done the same crimes who won't ever be caught so long as they play the game correctly.
I am still bamboozled that some wrestling UA-camrs and others said trick Williams is the next booker t and karion kross is the next randy Orton. I think to myself on what basis?
Yeah. THIS part of the internet is truly treacherous. I dont like everything about HHH's main roster management, but its a FUCKTON better than what Vince was doing for the last 20 years. These boomer brained losers need a new hobby
@@thehater6189no I agree. I really despise hhh but people have been complaining about Vince since the pg era. It was shit as well. This is just wishful thinking to be honest. When hhh is gone, this same compaining it gonna happen to the next guy in charge.
I hate hhh but this is just wishful thinking. Vince is responsible for the pg era bullshit as well. Noting will fox wwe, all we can do is stop watching it
😂😂😂😂 bro your anime rants be having me crying “Yu Yu hakushi and going on trips around the world with gohan” one of the reasons I subscribed because when you were roasting death note bro said “ohhhh the zinagami kills people when he writes down peoples names” 😂😂
Your right nobody understood wrestling but Vince I started watching wrestling because of Vince McMahon style booking no Vince McMahon style booking this shit is terrible I can’t watch I hate it because I love wrestling man
I disagree about Christian Cage Vince didn't like Christian he tolerated Him because his best was Edge and Vince didnt think Christian was a main eventer so thats why Christian asked for his release in late 2005 .during that time in smackdown after they lost Eddie tragically Christian wouldve made a great World Champion
Everybody wants to bring up allegations till there is a time to prove them with evidence but shawty took money end of discussion no matter what she f her self over taking a settlement over her integrity and that where this situation lost me sorry not sorry 😊
VKM is/was sorta losing it as he advances/ed in age. Look at the segments now compared to what they were right before VKM left. SummerSlam 2022, the difference was noticeable immediately.
I do think that Kross should have just had the same gimmick as he did in TNA, simply because he’d have his own character at least. But does not have to be winning a lot.
Just wait, the same complaints will happen when hhh leaves. Vince being back is like wishing for Santa to bring presents! I don’t like hhh but this is just wishful thinking! MOVE ON! Also the pg era was shit which Vince was responsible for. Let’s not act like it wasn’t cause it was
@HomeChallengerLilWon Viewership numbers for WWE as a whole have declined significantly since the beginning of the 2000s. So the decline began and continued while Vince was still in power. And even from 2013 to when Vince left, numbers were declining - even before the pandemic. There are many socioeconomic factors that have shifted to cause this, not to mention different consumption habits and the rise of streaming services. Seeing HHH as the only reason why this has happened over time is delusional. The most recent significant decline in viewership was between 2012-2020.
Can you do a mega rant about how NXT does not have any future stars only a couple of future Jobbers for LA Knight because Shawn Michaels is given too much praise for nothing and how every wrestler on NXT and on the Main Roster does not a character only and how everyone does not know how to cut a promo.
Nah. Under VKM, we were getting segments like Miz and Morrison with super soakers or whatever they were, Maximum Male Models and the like and the stupidity of a contender having to beat the champion to get a match for the title. He need to stay away forever. Triple H isn't perfect, but he's a HELL of a lot better.
Better doesn't mean good. Triple H is boring. Recently we've had wrestlers brawling like 5 weeks in a row. Drawn out storylines that should have ended months ago and absent world chmpions, both of them. They barely wrestle.
@@shaqyardie8105 by safe I mean boring and taking no chances...the new day stuff was originally supposed to be a team breakup he backtracked,Austin theory and Waller break up was dropped ,DIY just turned heel as group and teased breakup never happened, draft's never split off any team . I mean that safe booking
I know a guy who is 70 years old. He has millions of dollars he could sell his company and live on the beach for the rest of his life but he can't let go of the power of being the boss of a company. He's waddling around like an embarrassing, fat old man because he would rather be a fat old, embarrassing boss, then just retire, and be a retired old man.
I agree that the only time wrestling was a must watch tv was when paul had ecw, Vince wwf and 83 weeks of WCW bishoff/russo. Happy holidays @The Hater 🎄 🎅
@@yangakalane3526 how? Don’t know speaking about his experience is even trying to take it down? If you wanna say it like that, it kinda did work. Vince is gone now
@andraiy644 you're not intelligent at all, lolololol. Your posts are full of errors and you are calling me Thea which isn't nearly as clever as Andrea, girl name. Stay jealous.
Hater you got to review and watch AEW worlds end this Saturday there is a chance Christan cage cash in at world's end for the AEW world heavyweight champion in the fatel 4 way Jon Moxley vs Orange Cassidy vs jay White vs Adam page in the main event
@@thehater6189ok. So put them on the main roster and give them a REAL push . Just like they did with Kevin Owens , Cody Rhoades , Solo Sikoa . Why do black wrestlers always gotta get the short end of the stick . Omos is a giant and hasn’t been on the show all year . He coulda fought Braun Strowman but instead triple H throws him in therewith another potential star getting his career wasted Carmelo Hayes. 🤣
@StvyWavyTV you must have not seen my videos where I make these exact points. I agree that black wrestlers get the short end of the stick compares to owens and other jobbers. However, this does not change the fact that swerve and trick are boring and cant cut promos.
Man i bet the day when all tye shit comes to light what he did i bet this video will come down . Yall forgot how many wrestlers died under vince for them using PEDs to look big . Or what he did with some women this dude say man forget that have him back booking same matches over and over for months and weeks some people seem to be stuck in high school in the pro wrestling community
Personally, would I like to see Vince return? Yes. In fact, if we were to return at any point, trust and believe he would get a big pop. But, the reality of it is, if he were to return, he'll go back to the EVP role, but I don't see then letting him get anywhere near Creative again, even with a decreased level of power.
Vince will never come back he’s cooked TKO literally said that Vince will never come back as a creative ever again so you people can get all mad all y’all want lol 😂 Triple H runs the company great like it or not
@@malikwilson7387 I’m not a fan of Cody Rhodes but the thing is that I can give Cody credit is he’s a workhorse champion, he works his ass off & not a part timer that’s a fact
Vince created stars, hhh just pushes people from the indies
Vince created nobody
@ Austin, rock, hbk, Bret hart, undertaker, Kane, ultimate warrior.
@@UNoWhoitis23I know you hate the guy but be real lol
@@UNoWhoitis23 Hogan Cena Roman and all the other dudes my guy @brianthomas3451 mentioned💯🔥who did triple nose create🤣😭where's Wyatt 6/Sucks rn. Bo Dallas should have got buried by Miz on the mic "you used to carry my bags, your whole group has won nothing combined" dude lost to karrion Kross same guy who jobbed to Jeff Hardy in 45 seconds. Boom era?? More like The jobber era.
@@brianthomas3451And Cena
agreed, neckbeards will say no and praise hhh who is doing terrible.
Agree triple H is doing horrible booking where close to 2025
Name one thing good Vince has done in 15 years
@@UNoWhoitis23 tell me you just started watching a year ago without realling saying it
@@anotheryoutubeaccount8122 I’ve watched Wrestling since 2012, and all I’ve gotta say is that Vince was a horrible booker
"It was me Austin" that type of surprise elements is what I miss
You're missing one of the worst, dumbest, and most poorly executed swerves?
I don't understand why Paul Levesque is getting any praise for Vince McMahon's work.
Because iwc tries to pretend all the good stuff started under HHH .when we all know Vince started copies push,bloodline,made drew a top guy,put I c belt on Gunther . HHH literally booking on Vince's foundation. .I wonder how would a HHH led free of bloodline wwe will be
Dude where is Shane McMahon he is the heir to the throne
@godlion9808 weird that the son in law gets it,but not the actual McMahon son
You mean the sexual predator?
IWC and diehard love him because he's pushing indies veterans
WWE has no storyline at all look at Drew McIntyre he is angry lingering around on Raw and Smackdown beating up wrestlers with no direction,no character development,no Wrestlemania 41 plans,WWE is still testing waters with match card it's either CM Punk against Roman Reigns,CM Punk against Seth Freakin Rollins, The Rock against Cocky Rhodes so I totally agree with you
Yea drew is kinda boring. The commentators mentioned that Sami is 0-10 against him and it’s like oh ok so why should we care about Sami if he’s such a loser?
@Austin-l1j because of the stupidity booking that Sami Zayn is this kinda underdog which sidelined and derailed Chad Gable's momentum heading to Wrestlemania 40
Drew is the best character in the WWE rn. He has plenty of direction, but if you're one of those who expects instant resolution to storylines, you're not gonna understand what's going on. Drew going after who he's going after (the OG Bloodline) makes all the sense in the world. Same as Roman choosing to hit Seth instead of focusing on Homelander.
@@Austin-l1j Drew is the most interesting character in the WWE rn. It sure as hell isn't Sami, Cody, or Gunther (what a borefest). Sami is just annoying at this point. Drew should be able to move on from him.
Vince McMahon, didn't invent wrestling or built WWE from scratch. The company already existed under his father Vince Senior. What his son did, was just make the WWE bigger (not wrestling as a whole), but he needed Hulk Hogan to do that. Vince didn't do it, all by himself.
Honestly Shane would be a better option
Agreed cause wwe sucks without him
Nah. WWE is much better without him.
@jadis40 really y do u think so
@@jasminebourne1787 Because the segments now are a lot better. Go back just a few years ago. He was bringing the company down in his advanced years.
The Maximum Male Models thing, the Miz and Morrison segments with the super soakers or whatever they were.
He should NEVER come back.
@@jadis40Without Vince, Wrestling is nothing. Triple H is garbge.
@@bobbygould1960 You're acting like Vince invented wrestling. Nah. The WWE is better off without him.
I bet you once Vince McMahon comes back CM punk is out of there in WWE triple H doesn't know what the hell he's doing and the ratings show you tell you that triple H try to make wrestling to serious and there's no fun and there's no characters build up at all and yet nobody don't want to come out and say it
Agree
Facts
LOL! VKM is never coming back. Thankfully.
@@jadis40 What the hell are you talking about, Wrestling is in a shrinking mood and Vincr is the only one who can save it despite his old age.
To be honest. I don't want cm punk to go. I just want to see him be better. Straight edge society cm punk.
Vince Kennedy McMahon need to open his own company which could be competitive to other promotions because wrestling business runs in his veins and keep his shareholder status as part of WWE,he doesn't need to go back instead he need to do it independent
Is that even possible?
Vince At least made wrestling looked family-friendly when it was TV-PG and made it fun to watch unlike Noseman who is trying to make it 100% Serious which is Destroying the company.
Press conferences for pro wrestling are one of the dumbest things ever
@khesipresents1885 Honestly True. I can't stand them at all.
Imagine saying Pg is better 😂
The pg era was shit bro. Don’t act like it wasn’t. I hated that era as well as this one
@@UNoWhoitis23 I am not saying it is better, but even though I didn't like it that much, it is more memorable than Today's garbage, the Attitude Era is the best Era Ever.
Triple H will never make as many stars as Vince
Keep complete losers on the payroll
"Why make stars just bring in 10 to 20 years indies darlings that are already stars to the diehard fans" -- Triple H
As i said many times. Vince created stars and booked for the world. Noseman creates geeks and books for the house
When things go bad in the HHH era everyone always blame Vince. 2021 WWE is better than this nonsense we have. And, I swear WWE pays ppl in their comments to constantly write “this is cinema”.
I hate the WWE comments section, bunch of 11yr olds and smarks
Merry Christmas Guys🎄💙
Merry Christmas 🎅 🎄
Vince has given us great memories of wrestling and entertainment, he should 100% come back
He shouldn't come back, he needs to stay away.
@@jadis40Do u like the trash booking that we're getting?
I like Vince McMahon a lot, but he's an old man. Old men should not run the world. Old men should be retired.
@@abdouamamria6216 The trash booking was under VKM. Wake up. Look back to what was going on before SummerSlam 2022. After that? 1000% improvement. VKM being gone is what's best for business, and VKM sucks.
@@jadis40 bro I've been watching since 2008, and I know how terrible WWE has been from 2017-2022, and yes in 2023 WWE was good, but everything changed after WrestleMania 40, think about it, all the storylines are predictable af, Cody Rhodes is having one of the worst title reigns I've ever seen, all the ppv's have been disappointing (except SummerSlam,bad blood), the thing with Vince is , he takes risks , he can surprise u in good and bad ways, he does a bit of everything, while hhh has just 1 formula, and after WrestleMania 40 this formula hasn't been working
I agree, Vince needs to come back and give his oversight. The norm in America is that people despise successful people they revel in their downfall.
Since NXT BLK N GLD days, every wrestler that the fans and/or hardcore fans wanted over Vinces' choice flopped after a matter of months. Or when they left the WWE and went to elsewhere (AEW), they failed and that's where you can truly gauge their potential. You literally could see why Vince didn't believe in said talent but that if you had the same eye for talent also.
Most people don't understand that most these guys NEED the machine behind them to succeed, very few have the talent to stand alone and be successful or evolve into success without having any weaknesses. Daniel Bryan and Kofi Kingstons title reigns stand out the most. Against Vinces' wishes he gave the people what they wanted and it failed miserably!
Now where is Daniel Bryan? Vince never turned New Day into heels because they were cash cows, ITS A BUSINESS!
Triple H couldn't beat AEW in those Wednesday night 'wars' and then Vince immediately rebranded NXT to 2.0!
Vince knows because Vince is the Originator. If it wasn't for Vince American wrestling would still be in the territories.
I never understood the appeal about Daniel Bryan. He was absolute 🗑 🚮 🗑 🚮 on the mic and had the worst catchphrase of all time.
The Miz was justified in reading his files on that edition of Talk Smack. Miz is 50x the superstar Daniel Bryan ever was.
@@JBtheJMB84 Classic case of the fans hijacking the product. IT forced Vinces' hand. In hindsight, looking at it, at Mania 30 they had this man beat the entire evolution in one night. His reign fizzled out within a few months and they had Kane talk him out (kayfabe), so they can get him out the way and push Roman (Big Dog).
@@ragemachine56 🎯 spot on.
The best raw logo was
Raw is war
Raw is Jericho 💪
You're nostalgic. That was horrible .try the mid to early 2010s logo
@@khesipresents1885 eh...no thanks. i like what i like
@Clout_chasing_boy you mean what you grew up watching
@@khesipresents1885 partly yes. i just liked raw is war logo most. i have seen lots of iterations since. what you pointed out was great too. current one sucks
Vince McMahons return will be the greatest day ever
Agree but triple H will never make it happen
its him its him, its really really he, world lifer.
@@angelo9534 Nor should he. VKM needs to stay away forever.
You jaded old guys are outta your goddamn minds To let that out of touch creep anywhere near wwe
@@ugobrown2357 Be quiet, son. Go watch anime you HHH glazer
I'm not convinced the dude who watches play fighting lectures those who watch anime.
This dude's whole bloodline is nothing but loser's 😏
Tko will never bring him back they are scare of him.
Vinnie Mac is what’s truly BEST for Business💯
Vinnie Mac is what's truly WORST for Business. 💯💯
Donald J will definitely pardon Vince
A criminal pardon other criminals just like Biden
Lol
@@magnificentmurker criminal pardon another one
@IBelieveinJoehendryTNA _he definitely will do it that's one of his billionaire club guy's
yeah, Vince will get hit with a bunch of state crimes so that Trump can't pardon him with a federal pardon.
Even NXT is better than main roster 😂😂
Besides the woman's wrestling I got to admit Shawn michaels is doing a decent job with NXT.
That's a low bar.
Main roster is litter book like how nxt use to be booked even has the same talent that lost to aew
thats kinda why I sort of disagree with the hater on oba femi and trick williams not becoming top guys and being the next baron corbin guys, the roster is so f'ing bad that you mine as well let those 2 guys become top guys, they atleast look intimidating to an extent
He should of never left or sold the company, Merry Christmas, God bless.
It's a good thing he left. It's a good thing he sold the company. He was running it into the ground. Outside of Roman, there were a lot of really cringeworthy things he was doing.
Thankfully he's gone now.
Like Roman told Theory: "Your daddy's not here any more."
@@jadis40but wwe isn’t cringe now? Wake up bozo
@@jadis40do you even know how to run a company anyway 🤡🤡
@@jadis40reigns is a pathetic hypicrite for saying that. Without Vincent Kennedy McMahon nobody would know who reigns is. He was pushed down people's THROAT for YEARS
@@marlondavide9343 Nope. The WWE is a hell of a lot better without that geriatric old man. The WWE doesn't need VKM now.
Wow, the Hater now just straight up doesn't care if people rp other people. I'm pretty sure Vince should be in jail right now, but no, the Hater thinks women should be rpd and is okay with it.
Any evidence? No
And we want a good booker, we don't care about the real life person
WWE tv just hasn't been that interesting to me since HHH took over.
I used to happily spend my hard earned money on WWE live events, but since mid 2022 I seriously can not care any less about the crap they put out
The downfall of wrestling should be blamed on the 2 guys that have been making hires in the last 10 years in Tony Khan and HHH, cause they have a fetish for these indie outlaw workrate jobbers who have no star power and the only argument supporting the fact that these guys should be pushed is " Well they outdrew Cena/Roman in merch sales in one quarter", But do they outdraw Roman/Cena in ratings, live gates and ppv buys🤷🏾♂️??, If they don't then why should they be pushed over guys that are all rounders in terms of drawing power 🤷🏾♂️...
The world is changing, Those in charge do not want the younger generation to know what masculinity and testosterone is. Hence why in all endeavors, not just professional wrestling, soyboys and masculine females are now the face of everything instead of folks who actually draw money. Regular people don't understand this because they believe everything is about money. No. These people make the money, they don't need yours. It will increase exponentially within the next few years, even if you stop watching wrestling right now everything else that you love will soon become infested with these types of people, if it hasn't been already.
Vince is 80 years old. His time has passed.
I just hope vince fires noseman on live tv
“Paul levesque, you’re firrrrrrreeeeeeeeee”
The only take i disagree with the hater. Vince will never be the answer
Hell no it's time for one thing only, this garbage company to finally close, I'm waiting years for this day.
Its almost as if Triple H is trying hard to apologise to the smarkys for his reign of terror during the early 2000s.
Vince McMahon? The same guy who started this cringe PG Era in 08? Pass. Compare Wrestlemania 17 to Wrestlemania 18. WWE was falling off hard in the early 2000's and by the late 2000's wrestling was for man children and kids.
He had no choice but to go pg after the benoit tragedy. And WM-17 and X8 are two of the best manias ever. Yeah i can tell you left as a viewer after X-7 when austin went heel, that's when select people said wrestling wasn't cool anymore.
@marcusjohnson7321 Wrestlemania 18 is just Taker vs Flair and Rock vs Hogan. The rest of that card was mid. Also Mr Kennedy who worked at WWE at the time said WWE was going more PG before Chris Benoit did what he did. The proof is there too when you compare 2003 WWE to early 2007 WWE.
Vince is the goat
Atleast during the attitude era, the pg era he created was shit!
the realities of how hard it is to run a successful wrestling show are now showing....Vince is better than triple H
Merry Christmas also have a happy, prosperous new year Hater .
The road to 10k is here. Neckbeards are getting nervous.
Sure thing lol
Yes please I would probably start watching again
This is 2024. It's not the Attitude Era, it's not the Ruthless Aggression era. Before he was shown the door, over all the WWE sucked with him in charge.
@@jadis40 lockdown era was better than the neckbeard era/Indy era. And it had more viewership and more star power. Would you rather watch Jeff Hardy or Johnny Gargarno
To be honest I know I wouldn't watch it much but his booking of Roman made me want to watch wwe again.
@@SOM-v4o tribal chief? because roman had to fight for that character to be put on tv, but vince is actually smart, he didn't try and argue, he knew it was time for a change, and he agreed, and booked roman very well, usually when someone fights for a change against vince, vince sort of gets upset, and kinda buries them, but he knew this would make him money and transcend the wwe, so he did it, I remember when vince was cool with undertaker trying to transition his gimmick to bikerman/american badass undertaker, that was pretty cool
The same Jeff who can't keep himself out of trouble?
Nobody is saying vince didn't do it because he has a long history of getting away with crimes, despite this only being an "Allegation" it's not out of his character to do so. Even if he didn't do it this specific time, how the legal system operates (And i'm speaking from being ex law enforcement), is it seeks to punish you for all the times you've commited the crime and *haven't* been caught. People will pretend like they don't understand this, and will regurgitate garbage they've heard on tv "innocent until proven guilty, protect and serve", yadda yadda yadda. That being said, I don't care about any of this. I use a product based on the quality of the product, I do not care about these people's personal lives. If the product is good, I watch. If the product is bad, I don't watch. Simple. Working in law you see that this type of behavior among those in the upper class is the norm and not an exception. Even if Vince is found guilty for what he may or may not have done, you have 100 other people in the Wwe who have done the same crimes who won't ever be caught so long as they play the game correctly.
Prime Vince I agree. He's too senile right now. Give this guy some rest, he's getting his life destroyed by a greedy "woman" and juices from TKO.
nah he is good still
0:34-0:51 your impersonation of Triple H 😂😂😂
Never would happen.
Not only neckbeards will say no. They call you names for realizing a evil man like Vince is better than triple h
Yeah I Agree I think Vince should come back Him And Shane
I am still bamboozled that some wrestling UA-camrs and others said trick Williams is the next booker t and karion kross is the next randy Orton. I think to myself on what basis?
Its not the 90s 2000s, or 2010s its 2024 Vince is trash for business.
yea and triple nose is better. the guy who thinks karrion kross and kevin owens have potential. fuck outta here lol
You weird dude
Hush
@ you weird man stop being a follower
Yeah. THIS part of the internet is truly treacherous. I dont like everything about HHH's main roster management, but its a FUCKTON better than what Vince was doing for the last 20 years. These boomer brained losers need a new hobby
@@hurtner meat rider
and a PED0
Bunch of cringe babyface promo when Triple H in charge
Bring back Vince Russo
I have theory that hhh set Vince up. Everyone always said how he vowed to run the wwe.
I doubt it.
Happy Christmas H8R's.
Holy shit stop living in the past
@@rust2156 i dont take advice from anime fans lol
@@thehater6189no I agree. I really despise hhh but people have been complaining about Vince since the pg era. It was shit as well. This is just wishful thinking to be honest.
When hhh is gone, this same compaining it gonna happen to the next guy in charge.
I hate hhh but this is just wishful thinking. Vince is responsible for the pg era bullshit as well. Noting will fox wwe, all we can do is stop watching it
Not our fault everything sucks now
I wanted to give WWE a shot again when Rock came back, but the nerds ruined it again.
Him and Vince Russo
😂😂😂😂 bro your anime rants be having me crying “Yu Yu hakushi and going on trips around the world with gohan” one of the reasons I subscribed because when you were roasting death note bro said “ohhhh the zinagami kills people when he writes down peoples names” 😂😂
@@UnderratedMan1 death note is like one of the only anime I've liked
@@thehater6189it is one of the best series ever so it’s understandable
Bro the guy is too funny 😂 thing is I like anime, but man some of the guys who watch it are some real life losers bro.
Yo! 🤣 🤣 🤣 😂😂😂 The Hater had me dying with that. Especially when you understand the references.
I agree with you brother Vince McMahon is way better than noseman and his stupid booking.
Are these people live in the same universe with me? My gosh…….
@@iknottheculture.407 what?
I said this since the road to Wrestlemaina
Free Vinny Mac..💪
Your right nobody understood wrestling but Vince I started watching wrestling because of Vince McMahon style booking no Vince McMahon style booking this shit is terrible I can’t watch I hate it because I love wrestling man
I disagree about Christian Cage Vince didn't like Christian he tolerated Him because his best was Edge and Vince didnt think Christian was a main eventer so thats why Christian asked for his release in late 2005 .during that time in smackdown after they lost Eddie tragically Christian wouldve made a great World Champion
Everybody wants to bring up allegations till there is a time to prove them with evidence but shawty took money end of discussion no matter what she f her self over taking a settlement over her integrity and that where this situation lost me sorry not sorry 😊
esports ARE NOT SPORTS!!!!!!!!!
Vince as the head of the company absolutely! Vince as the booker, oh HELL nah!
Imagine if Stone Cold showed up on NXT
Merry Xmas fellow haters
bro said "x" mas lmao😂
@ I’m lazy 😭
He was great while he was there but DUDE LET THAT MAN RETIRE, sweet yeezus 😩
Wrestling is nerd entertainment now and will never be cool or good again unfortunately. HHH SUCKS!!!
You lost me bro. Vince is not the answer. You sound like you want Vince in power until he's dead.
VKM is/was sorta losing it as he advances/ed in age. Look at the segments now compared to what they were right before VKM left. SummerSlam 2022, the difference was noticeable immediately.
@@jadis40bouta check that out
Hey he still loved to do it until those allegations happened. He still did great with what was given.
@@SOM-v4ono he did not.
@@Austin-l1j what do you mean?
I do think that Kross should have just had the same gimmick as he did in TNA, simply because he’d have his own character at least. But does not have to be winning a lot.
Just wait, the same complaints will happen when hhh leaves. Vince being back is like wishing for Santa to bring presents! I don’t like hhh but this is just wishful thinking! MOVE ON!
Also the pg era was shit which Vince was responsible for. Let’s not act like it wasn’t cause it was
Exactly.
Then compare today's viewership to 2008 to 2011 viewership
@HomeChallengerLilWon Viewership numbers for WWE as a whole have declined significantly since the beginning of the 2000s. So the decline began and continued while Vince was still in power. And even from 2013 to when Vince left, numbers were declining - even before the pandemic. There are many socioeconomic factors that have shifted to cause this, not to mention different consumption habits and the rise of streaming services. Seeing HHH as the only reason why this has happened over time is delusional. The most recent significant decline in viewership was between 2012-2020.
Can you do a mega rant about how NXT does not have any future stars only a couple of future Jobbers for LA Knight because Shawn Michaels is given too much praise for nothing and how every wrestler on NXT and on the Main Roster does not a character only and how everyone does not know how to cut a promo.
FINALLLLY, someone who has the same opinion as I do!
Facts make wwe great again merry Christmas
Merry Christmas the hater hope you have a great day
Well yeah Vince is goat booker, he fell off bit ago tho
I disagree.I don't think Vince is ever coming back.What WWE a great team of writers who have a clear plan.
Nah. Under VKM, we were getting segments like Miz and Morrison with super soakers or whatever they were,
Maximum Male Models and the like and the stupidity of a contender having to beat the champion to get a match for the title.
He need to stay away forever. Triple H isn't perfect, but he's a HELL of a lot better.
Better doesn't mean good. Triple H is boring. Recently we've had wrestlers brawling like 5 weeks in a row. Drawn out storylines that should have ended months ago and absent world chmpions, both of them. They barely wrestle.
HHH is safe and takes little to no risks while Vince is out of touch
@@khesipresents1885 safe? His safe is boring
@@shaqyardie8105 by safe I mean boring and taking no chances...the new day stuff was originally supposed to be a team breakup he backtracked,Austin theory and Waller break up was dropped ,DIY just turned heel as group and teased breakup never happened, draft's never split off any team . I mean that safe booking
Vince need to stay retired and play with his damn great great grandkids 😆. He gotta b pushing 90 years old. 😅
I know a guy who is 70 years old. He has millions of dollars he could sell his company and live on the beach for the rest of his life but he can't let go of the power of being the boss of a company. He's waddling around like an embarrassing, fat old man because he would rather be a fat old, embarrassing boss, then just retire, and be a retired old man.
I agree that the only time wrestling was a must watch tv was when paul had ecw, Vince wwf and 83 weeks of WCW bishoff/russo. Happy holidays @The Hater 🎄 🎅
Even CM Punk couldn't bring down the house that Vinny Mac built, WWE 🤣🤣
wtf?
Don’t know how that makes sense
@@Selenamalaria1997 CM Punk failed dismally in trying to bad mouth WWE
@@yangakalane3526 how? Don’t know speaking about his experience is even trying to take it down?
If you wanna say it like that, it kinda did work. Vince is gone now
6:35 thats my favorite movie lol
I agree that the current WWE men's champions are boring. Cody sounds like a pr guy doing a press conference. 😂😂😂
@@1983jcheat were you able to redeem to gift card bro?
@thehater6189 yes.
Yes I agree with the hater Vince needs to comeback ASAP…..
The Hater has the best catchphrases in modern wrestling 🤣🤣
Well tbh with vince gone, Michael cole has become a better announcer and he much better
Nobody gives a shit about Michael Cole
@@faizkhan99945 Michael Cole Needs To Get Fired And Go!
It's time for The Hater to delete his channel
@andraiy644 it's time for you to go away. Youre too much of a sissy for this channel, Andrea. Haha, u have a girl name, Andrea!
@@thehater6189 Your channel itself is for s-ss--s, Thea. 😭😭😭
@@thehater6189 Nah, I'm too much intelligent for your channel that only orphans enjoy, Thea.
@@thehater6189 Nah, I'm too intelligent for your channel, Thea.
@andraiy644 you're not intelligent at all, lolololol. Your posts are full of errors and you are calling me Thea which isn't nearly as clever as Andrea, girl name. Stay jealous.
Hater you got to review and watch AEW worlds end this Saturday there is a chance Christan cage cash in at world's end for the AEW world heavyweight champion in the fatel 4 way Jon Moxley vs Orange Cassidy vs jay White vs Adam page in the main event
Swerve Strickland and Trick Williams are both stars . You kinda losing me bro 😂
@@StvyWavyTV stars who don't draw one penny? They're on shows that draw like 500k people in total
They have potential but both being black wrestlers, we all know the outcome. 😂😂@@thehater6189
@@thehater6189ok. So put them on the main roster and give them a REAL push . Just like they did with Kevin Owens , Cody Rhoades , Solo Sikoa . Why do black wrestlers always gotta get the short end of the stick . Omos is a giant and hasn’t been on the show all year . He coulda fought Braun Strowman but instead triple H throws him in therewith another potential star getting his career wasted Carmelo Hayes. 🤣
@StvyWavyTV you must have not seen my videos where I make these exact points. I agree that black wrestlers get the short end of the stick compares to owens and other jobbers. However, this does not change the fact that swerve and trick are boring and cant cut promos.
HHH SUCKS. I HAVE SAID IT OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
baskin in robbin
Man i bet the day when all tye shit comes to light what he did i bet this video will come down . Yall forgot how many wrestlers died under vince for them using PEDs to look big . Or what he did with some women this dude say man forget that have him back booking same matches over and over for months and weeks some people seem to be stuck in high school in the pro wrestling community
Merry Christmas! Hater
Personally, would I like to see Vince return? Yes. In fact, if we were to return at any point, trust and believe he would get a big pop. But, the reality of it is, if he were to return, he'll go back to the EVP role, but I don't see then letting him get anywhere near Creative again, even with a decreased level of power.
MERRY CHRISTMAS to the HATER!!!!
Travis Porter reference 😂
Can you start calling Gunther “Goober”? Please?
Vince will never come back he’s cooked TKO literally said that Vince will never come back as a creative ever again so you people can get all mad all y’all want lol 😂 Triple H runs the company great like it or not
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hhh is doing bad, only neckbeards like him now.
@BCBLawrenceBlack901 you think triple h is doing a great job with pushing the vanilla midget wrestlers like cody rhodes
Great is bit of over statement
@@malikwilson7387 I’m not a fan of Cody Rhodes but the thing is that I can give Cody credit is he’s a workhorse champion, he works his ass off & not a part timer that’s a fact