MSI 4090 Suprim part 1
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I've been practicing with SMD work, reflowing and reballing lately and I realized that I really don't like it and I don't care enough about it to get good at it. Based on my own experiences, and what I have seen you do, I have to applaud you sir for your AMAZING skills and ability. Your patience for this work is so far beyond mine. This sort of repair, just like roofing, is work that I am 100% happy to pay someone to do. How you managed to stick with it long enough to get as good as you are escapes me but I am very glad that you did. You are doing excellent work and from someone who has a decent idea of how hard it is you have my respect.
Happy holidays ya workaholic! Always learning something from your vids, so thanks man
Im self employed, too. You gotta be a bit workaholic to be one. If a customer calls you on sunday morning and waves with a 1000 bucks, hell yeah Im gonna answer the call and take that job.
This channel has taken over from NorthridgeFix as my new favorite repair channel - currently the only REAL tech Channels on youtube that I trust are Gamers Nexus and Northwestrepair - Thank you for the GREAT Honest content - FWIT Steve Burke ( Gamers Nexus ) and you would make a FORMIDABLE Team that Big Name companies would fear !
Strongly agreed with you
If you trust Northwest repair you need to watch this channel more.
Same here. Nrf = unsubbed
As a non regular of Northridge, what have they done to lose trust?
@@Ullion404 not knowing in depth, but there are some cases where Northridge deemed as not repairable but managed to be repaired by this channel.
I learned a lot from your channel, thanks Tony and Merry Xmas!
Nice, that they finally went ahead and designed replacement boards for these
One of the most interesting GPU repair videos I‘ve seen so far. So many almost ripped off pads and you cannot see it.
Of course you made the right call, the board was a goner. But since you're not celebrating anything today, in this holy day, I wish for you that next year you are going to be celebrating.
Merry Christmas to all again 🎄
Merry Christmas , enjoying my coffee and my favorite repair guy , I almost got the MSI GeForce RTX 4090 SUPRIM Liquid X 24G two years ago , 150 dollars more than my Zotac 4090 Amp Extreme Airo , cost was 1840 dollars at Micro Center two years ago .
Awesome inspection. Have a merry christmass
Happy Christmas and New Year,. Please keep up the good work!
Merry Christmas to the GPU GURU !!!!!
Yo! Merry Christmas T-man!🎉
guys when u send ur gpu to this guy, make sure to send cookies!!
Happy Holiday dude! Thanks for the Content! Go have some fun today.
HATMINI Graphics Card GPU Support Bracket is what i use for my 4090 Trio, but to be fair the graphics card did come with a support bar which i did actually use, no way was i risking GPU sag, i really love your videos, all the best bud 🙂
Merry Christmas, Tony!
every single video you post makes me glad I never ran my 4090 a single day without being vertically mounted lol.
I'm pretty sure these come bundled with a card support arm or bracket. My 4080S Slim did.
They do come with a support stand, can confirm as I have a 4090 Suprim X. And as this video shows, the use of it is NOT optional, these GPUs are simply too heavy to rely on the PCIe slot to hold them up.
my 3070 Suprim came with a support stand. If a manufacturer bundles a support stand or bracket with your product, you probably should use it. This thing is a freaking brick and a half. I really do believe that they went overkill with the heatsink XD I can't even get this card to 65C.
My 4090 came with a support bracket. Except... in the end it didn't fit in my case at all, so it's sitting on a cardboard box next to the case, connected with a riser cable. 😅 At least there's no stress on the card this way!
Merry Christmas everybody! ✝🎄
Merry Christmas thank you for working so hard
Love your videos, keep up the good work man!
You man are genius!!!
Merry XMas Toni! Love your Vids!
2:29 "squirt of lemon" - I just love how mind viruses spread
MERRY CHRISTMAS Love the channel.
Merry Christmas Tony!!!
Never connected, only dropped once!
lol
Are you Linus from Linus Drop Tips ?
Great vid as always and merry Christmas tony🎉 hopefully it's a good one for ya
Merry Christmas and happy Holiday!
Merry Christmas 🎅
We need a Christmas Miricle Tony!! Save the Suprim!!!
merry xmas, Tony, have a jolly one
Merry xmas,Mr.T.
now with these big, enormous card the best it horizontal MB but only few cases still exist like the core X5 case
Got a samonella video, a NWR video, GS videos, it really is christmas
Pads moving to me are ripped! Leaving them loose will eventually break the trace and the customer will return the card..
Most times I just do a NO FIX for so many ripped pads.
Merry xmas Tony🎉
2:40 How many phases? Yes.
Dude, have you seen the leaked PCB shots of the 5090?
You're gonna get rich
Do you show all the repairs you do? Do you remember fixing an MSI Suprim with serial number ending in 00088?
I think he unfortunately doesnt. Have you had him repair your GPU?
I don't know why. It seems the beefy MSI and Gigabyte cooled cards always end up needing strenuous repair.
Merry Christmas
It always kind of amazes me that people think they can get away with putting these massive GPUs in place without any supports.
That card looks like all the curve footage from NASA. :P
Oh wow, it actually had PTM mounted on the core. Please dont tell me you replaced that with paste/grease?
AIB making almost 5% profit according to jpr, a drop of 30% from years before. with that profit margin, you can only expect for them to go cheap on some components, until they say f** it, and do an EVGA. NVIDIA and AMD can then sell their own cards with sky high prices. the house always win.
I wonder if issues like this one will get worst with the new 5090 (bigger chip)...
I once tried opening a gpu. But my screw driver stripped instead but not the screw. Gave up trying to replace the thermal paste
500g board 4kg cooler lol, wfy dont they make motherboards to support the gpu vertically
The best thing is that every current generation high end card come with a gpu stand included especially the premium models like this one. The weird thing is why people buy a 2-3000 euro gpu and treat it worse than some cheap chinese shoe that you would use for gardening or something
When you're repairing drilled out cracks, what is the clear epoxy/resin stuff you use??
It had to be big impact right? How would a big piece of metal bend over time like that?
You melt metal by heating it. So, one could deduce that metal would be soft as high temperatures. Combo that with our gravity. And, well, there ya go.
I don't have to worry about sag from weight, mine is mounted vertically 😁
I think there's still sag even with that
How did the pads come off near the bottom line of the chip? Is it from transport impact while horizontally installed or what?
mechanical constraints on the BGA
the BGA balls are soldered on the receiving pads. if the tightening of the heatsink is not correct (torque) excessive pressure and deformation on the balls which tear off the reception areas
@textec2 Yes but how exactly?
@@textec2 Should we worry about the factory torque?
@@textec2 Why do we never heard of LGA CPU ripped pads? "Normal" people install LGA CPUs all the time for ages.
what can cause a rip pad ?
Bending the board, for example??
Or what do you think would happen, if you glue like a piece of steel to a flexible board and then bend the crap out of it?
Something breaks, perhaps?
Let’s goo!!! And happy holidays!!!
Happy Christmas Tony. May I ask you that workbench yours is custom made by you or buy from somewhere?
ive had my grapgic cards installed on a vertical mount for years OFFTOPIC but can you tell me the 3 capacitors on the EVGA 1070 that always seem to blow up ive got a card just dont know what farads these 3 caps are
It only bows when it can shoot arrows😂
clever
12:15 Merry Christmas 🤣🤣🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂😂😂
Nice work!
Hehehe, so Alex is indeed right sometimes. Neither practical nor economical.
Which 4090 from any brand has the longest PCB 🤔
wunderbar video
ordinary thermal pads for a 4090 core?
It's probably phase change.
@@llamapi3 Yes and looking at how it was still new card was never turned on, or someone took it apart before to try fix and put this in new.
Tony Ltt recently showed a PC that got sent flying from a 3 floor and the cpu cooler smacked the heck out of the GPU. Leaving it looking straight out off a nightmare what do you think are the chances of that core being alive and of the board being repairable? (The rest of the PC was still functional who knows for how long but functional none the less)
"See, this ones okay. This ones okay..." No they aren't. They are not okay. 🤣🤣
well hello from the Other bedroom
I'm new to watching your videos, but the little I've seen of your videos, I've become paranoid knowing that my GPU (a 7900 XTX) can break in the same way, precisely because I just cleaned my PC and I could see that it has a micro crack in the latch part where the GPU is secured next to the PCI-E port, at first glance I see it as a thousandth of a point, but with a magnifying glass and cell phone using a macro camera you can see a part like a broken overlap, the truth is, I'm scared xd
What? You can buy the board for 100 $, Where? Is it like a combletely bare pcb?
who would have thought modern card is made to fail? Its as if the manufacturer wants you to buy a new one sooner than later. You pay 1800 dollars for a card that lasts 2 years? Modern cooperate greed at its finest.
Well, it is kind of the end-user's fault as well for not supporting the weight of the card with a stand or just vertical mount it. Gravity is not kind to the PCB.
oh yeah merry Christmas
I put a support under my 4090 when I installed it, no need to tempt fate.
Reliability of GPUs appears to be quite poor.
can u repair my rx 580 to be a 4090 ? : (
dang, proper fix this gonna be more expensive than buying new PCB and replacing all components
8:27 FATALITY - FINISH HIM!
supreme curved monitor,i mean gpu..flat gpu'ers are mad rn
Back to the usual release schedule huh, you've been busy editing lately i am sure.
I think with at least 30 ripped pads it will cost more that 100$ to repair them + a crack
Warped board, broken hook, classics. Do people never learn from other mistakes (very expensive ones!).
I can't believe people send their cards, that they broke in the first place, back to you for a warranty repair for free. They're already asking for a miracle the first time. What more can you do?
Well Tony could just not provide warranty for these extreme cases but he does, and any customer would make use of it no matter if they feel bad about it or not.
That's wrong to abuse someone else's goodwill
😢
and here i though technology was suppose to get more powerful and smaller.
woow,It is Hiroshima
Msi uses the best quality ceramic capacitors even then it failed because of the crazy weight. Its all because of NV.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
How would you know they put the best ceramic caps? Did you design the PCB? Do you work for the PCB assembly house and is the person responsible for purchasing the components or at the very least, are you their pick and place machine operator? Only then, I'd *probably* believe you.
@@getmefix1921 I am old enough to tell the difference between good and bad components on a pcb.
Think gpu manufacturers will change their design to prevent this damage? Or relish in having people buy replacements?
Wouldn't need to buy a replacement if you learned how to take care of your stuff. This applies to all products. Just because you don't know how to take care of things, doesn't mean they should change their product based on your recklessness, carelessness, and incompetence. Companies are not paid to hold your hand.
There is not much they can do with a circuit board. You would need to change the entire industry, not just GPUs. Which would require revolutionizing electronics, and their power consumption. Law of thermodynamics, and conservation of energy and such. You would basically need to invent new laws of energy.
Accidents happen, but I am willing to bet that this GPU was installed when the accident happened. And a force broke it. Damage like that doesn't happen over time. Sure the card would get warped if you didn't use the PROVIDED STAND OR BRACKET, but that looks like the entire PC case was dropped, or the GPU was leaned on, or someone physically tried or accidentally damaged the GPU.
Without liquid cooling, heatsinks can only get so large. The more energy GPU needs, the more cooling you need. If a manufacturer ships a bracket or stand with a product that is heavy, it was not a suggestion. It was a requirement.
What they could do is design GPUs with support options, but all of the big PC case manufacturers would need to team up with the GPU manufacturers to come together and figure something out. Which is near impossible to do in this day and age. Because even these huge industries are not very intelligent anymore. They just unga bunga for money like idiots.
@@fulgeriondid you copy paste this or actually rant?
every single time huh.
They made it so thick so that nGreedia and MSI to justify charging you a kidney for it.
RIP .. board is doneskey..
Also so much ripped pads...and repairing even few is already a hassle as-is, no idea how you can have enough patience to go around fixing that much.
I bet you will be getting a lot of 5090 next year, and nvidia will also blame users.
No cookie, how disappointed.😁
Who tf bites a pcb?
A 4090 without a support bracket.
Horrible mess
Love they cant spell Supreme
Why are these gpus made so cheaply but they charge so much?!? Nvidia is screwing us and we seriously should consider boycotting them until they change their ways. I mean they are going to charge us about $2000 fir a 5090 and their boards are going to be crap too.
4090s are trash scams .... 2 years all death ... no gpu for 6 10 years
that big ass thing only has one 8 pin plug? man that thing is a joke
the 4090 is designed to fail. its going to bring massive dollars to the repair industry
Le chonk
msi and gpu should not be in the same sentance... motherboards... kinda, sometimes... never forget msi=major s#!ty ic's