Windows 15 offline installation: You have to disconnect the internet, select North Korea as your country, and Chinese as your language, when prompted for a username type in a 10 lines of custom code, not use mouse during whole installation, flash bios twice during restarts and walk backwards 15 times around your house.
Just use hyper-V in dedicated drive mode and you’ll be able to do just that without any hardware changes. Much more efficient as well if you want to prepare the system without bothering with the usual suspects. Blazing fast installs. Then u just reboot on that drive and enjoy.
I remember back in Vista/7 days it would install the boot manager on the 2nd drive, so very many times have i seen this and so many installs have been broken cause of this. Normally you can clone that partition over and it will sometimes work but more often than not i just reinstall windows with *Only* that drive inserted.
Literally last week I accidentally erased my boot file wiping my old drive 😂 used cmd to force reinstall it on the main C. Too late with this video homie
I'd go the opposite way and suggest that it's a niche case scenario when you'd want to do that, and just like everything else in the video, will not really concern 99% of the user base. I've been through countless installations and reinstallations of my PC and never had anything end up on the wrong drive.
Insane how Microsoft is phased out Offline installation for no good reason. Let me install the darn thing without internet access. Exactly for the reason you mentioned, lack of drivers.
When Linux does this, it's cute ......... but god forbid others do this. For instance, there have been instances where preinstalled updaters had vulnerabilities that could lead to remote code execution. Additionally, critical vulnerabilities in components like Windows CryptoAPI and Remote Desktop Gateway have been patched over time
The reason is people lose their bitlocker key and Microsoft can't help you if you lose it and get locked out of your own C drive. If you're logged into an account you can just view your key whenever you need
@@jfudge7384 If you login to an account you'll be turned into the product and you're computer will be used against you to further that end. As someone who does IT professionally I always discourage using a Microsoft account to login to your windows machine. You lose so much privacy it's not worth it. Just save the bitlocker key somewhere safe.
It is interesting to me how much of a big deal Microsoft made about getting people on Windows 11, while also going out of their way to make it as hard as possible to actually do so for a lot of users.
1:21 This is important. Windows loves to put the Windows install and boot files on different drives for some reason. Always disconnect the drives that you aren't installing Windows to.
I made the mistake of installing Linux on my PC before Windows I set aside two different disks for them, but I knew Windows would put it's bootloader on the Linux disk anyway The Linux disk is an NVMe drive, under an heatsink, that's also blocked by the CPU cooler, so removing it was too much effort; and there's no option to disable a disk in the BIOS So what I did was boot a live Linux ISO, backup the GPT table on the Linux disk, then I destroyed the GPT so that it would appear blank, install Windows, and after that restore the GPT table
I think the reason is to load faster on startup, as loading from 2 drives would duplicate the data bandwith. I think this should be an optional feature, but hey... its Microsoft.... 🤣
If you want to create a local user account without a Microsoft account you still can without command line. When you are asked if you are going to use your computer for work or personal use select work. That will show a text box to insert your email address but if you click the "Sign-in options" link you will get the option to "Domain join instead" which will let you create a local user account whithout ever needing to sign in into a Microsoft account or joining a domain. Thank you for hiding this Microsoft! Edit: For Windows pro and up.
As a domain admin, not being able to set up a local account by default before domain joining a computer is absolutely infuriating. Why do I have to use command line ticks to set up a device just to manage it and not have a Microsoft account? It's ridiculous.
@@JJFlores197 For those unaware, offline accounts are possible on Windows 11 Pro. During setup you have to choose Other sign in options and > ‘Domain Join’
writing sudo pacman -S "insert name of package here" is too hard!!!! i gotta click through 10 different links just to download firefox using Microsoft edge when i install windows 11 :3333
You forgot to tell people to disable drive encryption. It's automatic, enforced, and assumes you have a ms account. Meaning that if you have a local account, if your system ever gets locked and asks for a bitlocker key, you will not have it, because without a ms account you simply couldn't have had it in the first place.
Windows 11 gives you a prompt on startup after the drive encryption is completed, this prompt contains your bitlocked code, at this point without this code, your system will be bricked if you need that code, so write it down and save it OUTSIDE of your computer.
i bet you were one of those rose-tinted fools who 10 years ago (or whatever it was) adamantly claimed that Microsoft was going to have to rip Windows 7 out of your cold, dead, hands as well.
@@TehKazlehoff win10 got good by now Win11 is still bad. 51 out of 52 tests no matter if intel or AMD, win10 has better fps in games than win11. Why would I use win11?
what ultimately killed Win 7 was the lack of updates for software no chrome, no firefox, no updates for AVs etc and the most important: games - Steam ceased to work on Win 7
the english (world) option only removes the shortcuts to programs in the start menu, the programs are still installed. this is because its a deprecated locale from much older versions of windows, and it does not contain language strings for many of the modern programs included on windows, causing the shortcuts to not be created
Thats true. And what it makes even worse: when you reverted the country-setting to the real thing, after a few restarts all the scrap reappears. So it prevents installation during initial setup, but in the long run it changes literally nothing.
Here in Germany the local offline account is an absolute necessity! I have to be able to set up my client's new machines without having to enter any private information.
Same here in the netherlands, having to shift-f10 and enter oobe\bypassnro everytime is kindof a hassle, its annoying. I wish microsoft would stop enforcing security measures on people on first startup
@@Melissalove44 The difference is that with OEM you can go wrong since it could be the wrong key for your hardware. while in BNH-software, which is a retail site, they give you an official one.
Massgrave activates any edition that you want, including LTSC. The entire project is open-source. KMS38, is completely offline and is good until January 19, 2038 (aka Y2K38). HWID activation (digital licensing) is permanent and an internet connection is only required once for activation.
Just stay away from 11. Yes 10 will be less secure as time goes on, however if you’re careful in what you access, I’ve had no issues staying on Vista, and 7.
My main one that I always told people was remove all other drives while installing. I had that happen to me once over a decade ago, had sold my old drive, I had to learn how to rebuild a boot record real quick. Never made the mistake again, and always advocated for people to do this since. Glad you guys brought more awareness to it.
If you flash the iso with rufus, you can check some option to create a local account for you and skip online requirment, and skip privacy answer, you don't need to click anything in the oobe, in a few minute you have the desktop
The internet bypass option was removed a few weeks ago by Microsoft. So that's already not useful anymore, at least that's what a few articles said, but I haven't been able to confirm that myself yet.
This is correct, but can be bypassed again by using: reg add HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\OOBE /v BypassNRO /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f shutdown /r /t 0 Yeah, they decided to be difficult ha!
Its true. Ive tried a few times on different customers laptops. Best way right now is make 23H2 stick with Rufus, choosing their baked in options to disable networking
@@okay_bro88 You can also bake a local account via Step 1) Create or sign in to Microsoft Account on OOBE. Step 2) When at the desktop, go to Settings > Accounts > Other Users [...] Step 3) Add Other > don't have sign in info > Add user without MS Account > ??? > Confirm
@@Mario583a Microsoft automatically encrypts your drive using Bitlocker now and stores the Bitlocker key in the first Microsoft Account you sign into, so if you just make some fake temporary BS Microsoft account so you can then set up a local account, you're screwed if the Windows install ever becomes non-bootable because you can't recover the data without the Biltocker recovery key. You can mitigate this by following your suggestion and then searching for "encryption" under the Settings app, then turn off the encryption option.
If Windows 10 won't be usable one day and W11 won't have some kind of reliably working anti-bloatware installer like tiny 11, then I am going SteamOS. I don't believe windows 12 will be any good. This is what happens when there is no competition. Products are not made with costumers in mind, but with corporations in mind.
If you need something (gaming primarily) more productive you've got Pop!_OS, Mint, and Fedora Kinoite If you need something more gaming focused you've got Garuda, and Draugr SteamOS development is still ongoing but slowed as the focus is on Steam Deck OS. But since Steam Deck OS is largely open source the benefits are being copied across to every mainstream Linux, so even Ubuntu and Fedora benefit from the improvements Hth
Windows 11 can be installed easily and debloated properly. It’s a great OS. But you need to know how to deeply configure it. NTLite is a start. But that’s nowhere near what’s required to get the true windows feeling again. None of these things mentioned apply in my situations. Windows 12 could come out tomorrow, and while people would bash MS for whatever bs they did this time around, I’d be able to get the real windows experience back with deep configuration and understanding of the OS. I bypassed all these shits by capturing the image after [what I mentioned] and when installed (like shown on video, same procedure) it won’t bother u with this. It will straight go to desktop. And you’re ready to go.
@@Chibibowa People said that about 8 and 10, but at the end of the day, this stuff is getting worse and worse, while Linux and MacOS are getting better and better. Eventually, we're going to have to just accept that Windows isn't worth the hassle anymore
Steam OS 2 kinda sucks though, and Steam OS 3 is currently SteamDeck exclusive. You’d be better off with a standard Mint installation and just download proton/wine yourself
The only reason. I repeat, The ONLY reason a company like Microsoft would remove the ability to make an "offline" account and risk alienating some users would be that the data they collect from you, CONSENSUAL INFO AND NON-CONSENSUAL INFO, is all they care about and will do anything to make sure they have it under any circumstance.
Keep in mind that if you're setting up a prebuilt machine that happens to have S-Mode, then you can't do the offline bypasses. Not even if you manage to disable the driver at the beginning.
I found that if you do have an Internet connection but don't want to disconnect, you can select Work or School account, then select Connect to a Domain, and it will continue with an offline account. You won't ever have to actually connect to a domain. However, I believe this option ONLY works if you are using a Windows 11 Professional installation media.
@3:04 lol, I don't remember using CLI when installing Debian.. 😂 In fact, I could safely and with confidence just hit Next, Next, Next and get working OS without any traps and pitfalls. How the tables have turned! 😅
I can tell you, Debian and Debian based distros are fine BUT, if you are working on the computer Windows is just more seamless. Remote Desktop is the killer feature i can never replicate with linux
@averagedev7768 Gnome has rdp and vnc builtin and For most other desktop environments, you can just install a nap. That will allow you to do remote desktop over VNC.
@@averagedev7768 Remote desktop was indeed a superior feature. The thing is that these days I don't need it at all: ssh is much faster and more precise. In fact I haven't touched Windows in years (for 20+ years working in IT).
Its funny how you mention remote desktop released on windows in 2000, where Linux/Unix had this feature since 1987 and only recently dropped it since no one needed it any more (there are much better solutions like ssh and vnc mentioned in comments above).
Once installed suggest: 1) revo uninstalled to properly uninstall OneDrive if don’t need it; (2) go to privacy settings and turn off all optional data collection items (which is all the tabs there); (3) if using an OLED monitor, make desktop black (or moving image) and remove all shortcuts from desktop as well make taskbar auto minimise (prevents possible burn in issue)
Windows 11 can be installed easily and debloated properly. It’s a great OS. But you need to know how to deeply configure it. NTLite is a start. But that’s nowhere near what’s required to get the true windows feeling again. None of these things mentioned apply in my situations. Windows 12 could come out tomorrow, and while people would bash MS for whatever bs they did this time around, I’d be able to get the real windows experience back with deep configuration and understanding of the OS.
note: at 0:30, if you choose english world, it will also disable a lot of other functions of windows, one example that i had to painfully learn from was that you cannot use a shared windows key(like for enterprise or educational systems or whatever)
Don't. There is absolutely no point in using W11 over W10. I use both a lot, and I am certain of this. W11 is just another mold of W10 with worse sounds, worse UI, worse functionality and more spying. From the user side, W11 does not have a reason to even exist.
Good tip on disconnecting *all* your drives but the one the OS is going on before installation. More than once I've realized too late that Windows installed itself to be entirely dependent on 2 drives - one of them usually much older - to even function.
Having to do crap like choosing a "world option" to avoid bloatware is exactly why I no longer use windows, closed both my accounts with MS, and now we hear they want to go over to an annual pay plan, really? What's next? Capturing all your data?.......... Oh wait, that option is coming soon...... 🙄
Capturing all your data is already on with Windows. XP sent every URL you visited to Microsoft, 7/8/10 send everything you *type* to Microsoft and a lot more Glad you were able to leave Windows, did you go Linux or Mac?
I don't see this talked about enough, but there are still a lot of new drives out there that are not stock GPT formatted. Luckily there is a MBR-GPT converter built into the command prompt now, that you can use from the installation medium. I don't remember the exact "command prompt wizardry" but it is quite easy to find and do with a few Google/DuckDuckGo/Bing searches.
1:19 Important to note that the driver search is not recursive - it won’t check subfolders. So if the extracted driver file is down a few subfolders, you have to go down and find that folder otherwise it comes up with no drivers found.
With shocking frequency, Windows 11 reveals to me the extent to which Microsoft has no idea what the hell they're doing (at least where Windows is concerned). They may as well rename it to WTF 11.
They know exactly what they're doing. Bill Gates is one of the bishops of the "You will own nothing and be happy" movement. Widows 11 is the OS that will deny you of your right of ownership of your data, control over your PC, and an infringement on your privacy.
2:54 Another little known way to achieve this without needing to memorise the key combo to get the command prompt is just to install the drivers back when you're picking the installation drive, the Load Driver option seen at 1:17 works for non-storage drivers too.
@@PITZ24701 There is a small chance that the devs of a program would disable 10 support but hopefully it won’t since 7 lasted a long time even after support ended
"If you have any suggestions for others installing Windows 11" Explore other options realistically. Take stock of what you actually do with your computer and look at what else is out there.
The fact that an Internet connection is required just to install the OS is insane to me, this should be unexceptable. If this is still a thing in the future, I'll just convert every device I have to Linux.
Super Pro Tip: Create a Rufus USB that bypasses all of the Windows 11 OOBE shenanigans (and hardware requirements), saves at least 10 minutes of clicking and typing
Double check your keyboard layout. If '@' is on the '2' key, you have US, otherwise you may have UK. I live in Australia, and every day, I have people complaining that their keyboard is broken as they all try to match the English UK language setting with the English UK keyboard layout.
Our last Windows-based PC build was shortly after Microsoft decided to force us to Windows 11. Another once-great company starts its collapse, and it's entirely due to greed.
Guys, if someone had a problem with their ethernet driver, and just wants to get through the setup, use an android phone, connect it by usb and enable tethering, this will make the computer see the internet connection from your cellular plan
1. I always disable "SysMain" and empty the C:\Windows\Prefetch folder EXCEPT for the ReadyBoot folder (you need to leave that there). The caching engine over time gets slower and doesn't really offer the benefits it once did. 2. Disable the "Connected User Experiences and Telemetry" service to reduce all that back chatter to MS you didn't want in the first place. 3. Open Task Scheduler, and in the root, "End" (if running) and disable any tasks you don't want to run. Example: Microsoft Edge or Adobe Acrobat. Reduce the background crap. Additionally, under Microsoft/Customer Experience Improvement you should consider the same tactics to reduce all that backchannel noise to MS.
you can also get the ethnet driver by doing this Shift F10 assuming your usb is named D, substitute it for what ever your name for your usb is d: (your folder) \ (next folder) \ (your ethernet driver instillation that you should have saved) hit enter you now have your driver congrats
The most important thing when installing windows is way before the installer… disabling CSM support is a must on most modern boards, along with ensuring secure boot is enabled. Windows will install without these changes but notable performance issues will be seen and the drive will not be partitioned with the GPT partition scheme, rather it will have the old MBR scheme which will only add to the performance woes, most notably, the boot up speed of the device. I Guess my takeaway and maybey an idea for a second video would be: “How to prepare your PC for a Windows install to avoid common issues” like those seen in this video.
@@ScytheNoire its more of a user issue when not preparing your device properly for install. Linux has similar nuances. System builders don’t just install software and expect third parties to configure the base platform.
there are also some occasions were windows 11 will let you install it in CSM (when upgrading back when it first came out for example) and then you won't get any updates. Ever. Had a friend who was stuck in 21h1/10.0.22000 until literally last month because his install was upgraded from 10 and had csm on, mbr install and secure boot disabled. Absolute headache to fix
@@ScytheNoire imo no one should have CSM enabled nowadays, excluding very few particular edge cases If for some reason I ever need it on my computers (which has been... once in like 5 years), I always disable it afterwards
My suggestion for a new Windows 11 install is don't, honestly I'd rather pay for extending my Windows 10 updates or even running past when update support goes away as Windows 11 is trash, likely that will finally be the push for me to go Linux as after a couple years with the Steam Deck that's honestly the way I want to go now.
I've had Win 11 since the day it launched and have never wanted to change that. Most everything is better than Win 10. I don't know why some, like you, have such an aversion towards Win 11.
If you want the Steam Deck OS experience on desktop look up "atomic" distributions. If you just want it for Steam, set up an autostart shortcut (*.desktop file) to launch Steam with the -tenfoot argument
@@bgezal Because Windows 10 doesn't patronize customers with double-UI, and doesn't boast blatant malware like copilot and whatever that other thing was called (recall, i rember now) The second microsoft releases those things as mandatory software, that is the day Linux gains 5%+ market share. xD Linux is already at like 4.45% last i heard.
Microsoft "support" is absolutely abysmal in 2024. I can't believe how poor it's become over the last 10 years. Endless frustrating automated messages that waste your life, and then either a useless message saying they can't help you, or a useless level 0 customer service agent who knows less than the automated service you just had to suffer through. Dogshiz company.
Even better, after 15 minutes of automated redirects it turns out, they forwarded you to the wrong department or the service worker "just isn't feeling it" and hangs up on your, so you gotta do it all over again.
Another thing to mention (if you are a developer or just someone that likes to have multiple OSes on their PC) is with recent versions of Windows 11, after you install windows, make sure to go to device encryption settings and disable Bitlocker (cuz that's enabled by default for some stupid unknown reason) Not only does it slow down the drive (more noticeable on HDDs than SSDs), it outright prevents you from using a different Operating System entirely (which is a PAIN IN THE ASS if you intend to dual boot)
@@ThunderClawShocktrix I think it was already on newest win 11 install media or it was in insider builds and coming to normal version. There was lots of discussion some time ago. I don't know if they removed it but I don't know. Also some laptops will encrypt disks in install. At least my father's laptop is encrypted and he's over 73 and he used default settings.
Tips for installing Windows 11? just install Zorin OS. About to make that move myself here in the next few months. Windows 11 is so bad I'd rather fight with Linux all day than wonder if Recall saw my personal information and shared it with whomever it decides to.
i'm still on windows 7 because even win10 is a nanny state OS. periodically on win10, trying to access your local drives may take longer because it needs to get permission from microsoft to access THE PHYSICAL DRIVE IN YOUR COMPUTER!. i ain't gonna deal with that.
You don't have to use the command prompt to install wifi drivers, you can install them at the drive window using the install drivers button. And it does work to just run the installer like normal, however, the installer will not show up, it will just run in the background, so you just have to trust that it works.
I had so much trouble when Microsoft decided to ban my burner windows account and i wasn't able to login anymore. Thankfully managed to create a different account after some trouble shooting. Never again am i creating an online account. Not even a burner Local all the way!
I ran into that "missing drive" issue a couple months ago. I went to install windows on a used laptop so my son could play Roblox, but the windows installer couldn't see the 500gb nvme drive. I tried several different driver packages but nothing worked. 20 min after giving up on windows, I had Linux Mint installed and fully updated. I did manage to install Windows 10 on an old notebook with an i5-4300u so he could play Roblox.
After installing Windows 11, I couldn't create a local account and had to sign into my Microsoft account. Then, it forced me to create a Windows Hello PIN instead of a password because "it only works on your device", and even created my user's folder in C:\Users naming it as "heheh", which is not the name I wanted the folder to have. I ultimately had to delete that user and create another user just to be able to properly get into Windows. It's absolutely ridiculous that I had to do this.
some people don't want Linux windows 11 is a reasonable os as long as you have tmp2.0 i rally don't understand what the deal is with some people acting like windows 11 is the worst os ever.
If you install it with a microsoft account, make sure you change your profile type to a local profile later. And uninstal any bloatware: cortana, one drive,...
Can confirm that, HP only provides a .exe file for chipset drivers, but once the exe is extracted (7zip will do), there is a folder called F6 with the NVMe driver (why F6 ? because with win2000/XP/server 2003, you had to spam the F6 key in order to load a 3rd party disk controller at the very first step of install).
I know this is a tech "quickie" but... What bloatware exactly? What's not getting installed when I select English (World) that would otherwise get installed? Would be nice if the video expanded on reasoning rather than giving blind instructions to follow
I would also like to know, but I would very much trust anybody, who'd argue, Microsoft installs unwanted crap on your system. With every god damn update, that programs button is highlighted for me to find out, that yet another piece of unwanted software was put on my drive. There are good reasons, why I used to be a Windows fan in XP times, and today I highly despise Microsoft. But using it simply is a necessity.......
it removes such things as Candy crush Saga! Don’t be love, Candy crush Saga! Don’t we love, Microsoft solitaire collection! it removes things like that I’m not sure exactly what else but it remove certain things
Many people report stuff like Candy Crush, Spotify, maybe some other stuff that preinstalls itself or even after reinstalling after an update. But I've never had that issue.
I downloaded Win 11 from the cloud instead of a usb. It didn’t ask me no more than a couple of questions during setup. This video explains WTH happened. It’s ran bad ever since then.
3:01 you can avoid the CLI here by doing the driver back at the disk stage - once you have picked the disk to install to you can’t go back, so I like to do ethernet/wifi before the storage driver so I don’t forget.
The not recognizing drives is when the bios is showing your Hard Drive in Raid mode. Switch it to AHCI and then it will show. For some reason the Raid mode prevents recognition of the drive on older installers.
0:54 some laptops wont show any devices at all because the bios prevents access to the system's drives. This can be solved by tinkering with some BIOS settings. This issue is particularly observed with modern Acer laptops.
When I got my laptop 6 months ago, I re-installed W11 because you never know, what kind of spyware they ship it with. At that point, Microsoft had already killed the common methods for bypassing the mandatory Microsoft account, but while trying out different methods within those installation screens, I somehow triggered the OS to give me the "I don't have internet" option without me doing something particular. My guess is, that I let the laptop sit for so long while googling those methods on another computer, that it went into sleep mode several times along the installation. Seemingly Windows got annoyed and let me choose an offline account. Which is the only way to go, frankly. Should there ever be no circumvention anymore to some BS online account, I would instantly switch to Linux. But I very much assume, the community will always find ways to escape the rapey mentality of corporations.
Best way is to just go to Linux as your primary so you don't have to worry about Microsoft rapeyness in your life, and run Windows in a VM if you think you really need it
@@ThePlayerOfGames That is what I am intending to do in the future, but that needs time and dedication, since the general gist is, that Linux has become very good, but is still plagued by compatibility issues and you basically need to educate yourself to be an IT professor in order to handle everything around Linux. I am not afraid of that, for me it's only about the time it will require, until I will have the impression, that everything works as I want it to. I don't know when that day will come, but I am certain that it will. Apple would never be an option and Microsoft seems to devolve with every version of the OS. So it's gotta be Linux. Plus open source and user orientated, what's not there to love.
@@Marc_Fuchs_1985 Mint Cinnamon and Ubuntu are pretty much plug and play at this point. Me, parents, GF, sister, neighbors, have a bunch of new and old PCs/Laptops running Mint Cinnamon. Mint 22 has the newer 6.8 kernel by default and pipewire enabled, worked great on my SER5-5560U and my GF's SER5-5800H machines. No Windows here!
@@Marc_Fuchs_1985 You can get a head start running linux in a VM. Hyper-v if your running w11 pro. If not, virtualbox is free (but slow graphics) and theres a free version of vmware. You can also install linux to an external disk. With a little work, you can do that through a vm, run it in that vm, and then boot to it from bios. And if that external is an enclosure, you can then put that in your pc and boot as normal. Linux doesn't care what its booted from.
Windows: Installation for a basic setup requires the console. Wants a cloud account. Will ignore what you say and install everywhere. Insists you use Bing. Linux: Installation for a basic setup doesn't require the console. Doesn't want a cloud account. Will do exactly what you say. Lets you use what you want. My, how the mighty have fallen...
I think you should leave only need/doesn't need console for instal. It's a just a meme. I've rewatched my PC games library and moved to Mac leaving most PC games from steam to steam deck or Asus legion go (last one just in case I need a pecifically windows machine for something). Playing on consoles or even Mac (session online games run well and I mostly play LoL or WoW on a PC). PC and windows are just that bad now that I'm leaving PC master race after 25 years.
You sure about the "world" thing ? I've read recently that it wasn't a good solution and just remove the shortcut from the start menu, nothing more But never tried, I used a custom iso for mine
Again...Staying 10 strong for the foreseeable future here. Past EOL and likely ESU too. Like i did for 7 until the PC hardware died. And was "forced" to go to 10. Anyways. Us 10s won't go down without a fight to the death! 💪🏻🤓🖖🏻
They do, or at least they think and act like they do. Consider Windows to be malware, if you've installed it you've installed a keylogger, URL sniffer, network sniffer, file gister, mouse tracker, and activity tracker just to name a few With Linux you own your own PC
@@ThePlayerOfGames Ok, I agree with most of what you say except the part where you at least imply that anything that Garbagesoft does is by accident and not their core agenda to consolidate all of the PC market not just non mac/Linux users under their OS and software as a service BS they've been trying to implement as their own personal monopoly since the very inception of Windows!
I'm sure many will jump at the chance to say it, but this time it's warranted-if installing Windows 11 is such a hassle, why not go Linux? With Steam and Proton, it's literally a no-brainer for most users.
It's funny cause Linux performance from my (limited) testing is actually better. On top of that, I haven't found a single game that can't run in Proton or Lutris/Wine. At most, movies in some VNs don't work, because they're coded to run with windows media player, but that's it. Hell, even anti cheat games are now working on Linux. All the HoYo games now run without banning, VAC kicked me from a CS2 game once. Just leaves RIOT that hates Linux, but I'd say that's a good thing they don't run on Linux.
I'm attempting to install Windows 8.1 on a machine that is ripped from my DVD and setup with Rufus. I'm gonna see if Rufus stops activation at all. Just as a test though, I plan on separate Windows 7&10 SSDs.
Sometimes drives won’t pop up because of the bios, it can happen if you come from an old pc (win 8.1 and previous), you just have to reinstall the last version of windows you know worked and update the bios.
crazy how any linux distro is easier to install than windows. installing fedora ubuntu or mint is so much easier and faster, too bad that this ease of access is instantly lost when you try to use the computer as a "win10" (talking abt compatibility, different file types, terminal, ...)
@@xsham6224installing any Linux distro on some laptops will make that the fans and the temp don't work, and you will have to fix it while the computer is running hot, how is that easier? Also not all hardware "just works" inside of Linux, I like using Linux, but saying is faster and easier is just wrong
Windows 15 offline installation: You have to disconnect the internet, select North Korea as your country, and Chinese as your language, when prompted for a username type in a 10 lines of custom code, not use mouse during whole installation, flash bios twice during restarts and walk backwards 15 times around your house.
That last step is VERY IMPORTANT!
@@KubiG1000 Cope harder.
also you must learn chiniese and answer some specific questions without using the internet for answers
Works only if you own a black cat! And by the way: never try this at home.
I already dont use the mouse during the install. tab and space is faster.
I can't stress enough how important the "remove other drives" step is
Just use hyper-V in dedicated drive mode and you’ll be able to do just that without any hardware changes. Much more efficient as well if you want to prepare the system without bothering with the usual suspects. Blazing fast installs. Then u just reboot on that drive and enjoy.
Yep been doing that since Vista
I remember back in Vista/7 days it would install the boot manager on the 2nd drive, so very many times have i seen this and so many installs have been broken cause of this. Normally you can clone that partition over and it will sometimes work but more often than not i just reinstall windows with *Only* that drive inserted.
Literally last week I accidentally erased my boot file wiping my old drive 😂 used cmd to force reinstall it on the main C. Too late with this video homie
I'd go the opposite way and suggest that it's a niche case scenario when you'd want to do that, and just like everything else in the video, will not really concern 99% of the user base. I've been through countless installations and reinstallations of my PC and never had anything end up on the wrong drive.
Insane how Microsoft is phased out Offline installation for no good reason. Let me install the darn thing without internet access. Exactly for the reason you mentioned, lack of drivers.
When Linux does this, it's cute ......... but god forbid others do this.
For instance, there have been instances where preinstalled updaters had vulnerabilities that could lead to remote code execution. Additionally, critical vulnerabilities in components like Windows CryptoAPI and Remote Desktop Gateway have been patched over time
@@Mario583a Linux never required you to connect to a network for installation.
@@FireFoxDestroyer Yup, and the distros that do suggest a Net Install, usually have an offline iso file for you to use (you've just got to find it).
The reason is people lose their bitlocker key and Microsoft can't help you if you lose it and get locked out of your own C drive. If you're logged into an account you can just view your key whenever you need
@@jfudge7384 If you login to an account you'll be turned into the product and you're computer will be used against you to further that end. As someone who does IT professionally I always discourage using a Microsoft account to login to your windows machine. You lose so much privacy it's not worth it. Just save the bitlocker key somewhere safe.
It is interesting to me how much of a big deal Microsoft made about getting people on Windows 11, while also going out of their way to make it as hard as possible to actually do so for a lot of users.
Outright impossible for many yet my laptop that cant upgrade still advertises win11 to me as if I can.
blindly consume our slop
1:21 This is important. Windows loves to put the Windows install and boot files on different drives for some reason. Always disconnect the drives that you aren't installing Windows to.
I made the mistake of installing Linux on my PC before Windows
I set aside two different disks for them, but I knew Windows would put it's bootloader on the Linux disk anyway
The Linux disk is an NVMe drive, under an heatsink, that's also blocked by the CPU cooler, so removing it was too much effort; and there's no option to disable a disk in the BIOS
So what I did was boot a live Linux ISO, backup the GPT table on the Linux disk, then I destroyed the GPT so that it would appear blank, install Windows, and after that restore the GPT table
Had that happen, windows was on NVME but boot was on HDD. Long story short, had to delete all my games from HDD in order to reinstall it
@@Ethan7_7 Nah, you can move just move the bootloader using commands.
I think the reason is to load faster on startup, as loading from 2 drives would duplicate the data bandwith. I think this should be an optional feature, but hey... its Microsoft.... 🤣
@@kabiskac Well i didnt know that
If you want to create a local user account without a Microsoft account you still can without command line. When you are asked if you are going to use your computer for work or personal use select work. That will show a text box to insert your email address but if you click the "Sign-in options" link you will get the option to "Domain join instead" which will let you create a local user account whithout ever needing to sign in into a Microsoft account or joining a domain. Thank you for hiding this Microsoft!
Edit: For Windows pro and up.
Think this only works for Windows 11 Pro and up. Windows 11 Home can't join a domain
i dont know how people dont know this. shift+f10 oobe\bypassnro. pc resets and itll let you skip having internet
@@12pearcj Oh right. Forgot about that as I never had Windows home. My bad!
At least on machines with ethernet only, having no cable plugged in should also give an option to bypass it
@@tarcutefan No worries man. Home sucks anyway to be honest lmao
As a domain admin, not being able to set up a local account by default before domain joining a computer is absolutely infuriating. Why do I have to use command line ticks to set up a device just to manage it and not have a Microsoft account? It's ridiculous.
You're a domain admin and don't have an automated imaging process?
@@JJFlores197 For those unaware, offline accounts are possible on Windows 11 Pro. During setup you have to choose Other sign in options and > ‘Domain Join’
For those unaware, offline accounts are possible on Windows 11 Pro. During setup you have to choose Other sign in options and > ‘Domain Join’
As a domain admin you should know about xml answer files?
I like how everyone decided to bash you instead of pointing you in the right direction...
"Just install Linux." "But I don't want to use the command line and jump through hoops." Microsoft: "Oh, you want hoops? How's these new hoops?"
What's so bad about an online account? You probably use GMail anyways.
@@bgezalyou missed the "de Google your life" videos from LTT?
@@ThePlayerOfGames Yes but it didn't apply to me.
@@bgezal yay, another big tech company has my data now!
writing sudo pacman -S "insert name of package here" is too hard!!!! i gotta click through 10 different links just to download firefox using Microsoft edge when i install windows 11 :3333
You forgot to tell people to disable drive encryption.
It's automatic, enforced, and assumes you have a ms account.
Meaning that if you have a local account, if your system ever gets locked and asks for a bitlocker key, you will not have it, because without a ms account you simply couldn't have had it in the first place.
Rufus asks if you want to disable Bitlocker... just saying.
Windows 11 gives you a prompt on startup after the drive encryption is completed, this prompt contains your bitlocked code, at this point without this code, your system will be bricked if you need that code, so write it down and save it OUTSIDE of your computer.
@runejonassen3893 exactly what I did this morning to my windows flashdrive
I agree with the title: I will definitely not let an installation of Windows 11 happen on my PC.
i bet you were one of those rose-tinted fools who 10 years ago (or whatever it was) adamantly claimed that Microsoft was going to have to rip Windows 7 out of your cold, dead, hands as well.
@@TehKazlehoff I never claimed that, and I still use Windows 7. Will replace it with Linux in the next few weeks though.
@@TehKazlehoff win10 got good by now
Win11 is still bad. 51 out of 52 tests no matter if intel or AMD, win10 has better fps in games than win11. Why would I use win11?
@@TehKazlehoff You say that like it's a bad thing.
what ultimately killed Win 7 was the lack of updates for software
no chrome, no firefox, no updates for AVs etc and the most important: games - Steam ceased to work on Win 7
the english (world) option only removes the shortcuts to programs in the start menu, the programs are still installed. this is because its a deprecated locale from much older versions of windows, and it does not contain language strings for many of the modern programs included on windows, causing the shortcuts to not be created
Thats true. And what it makes even worse: when you reverted the country-setting to the real thing, after a few restarts all the scrap reappears. So it prevents installation during initial setup, but in the long run it changes literally nothing.
Here in Germany the local offline account is an absolute necessity! I have to be able to set up my client's new machines without having to enter any private information.
Same here in the netherlands, having to shift-f10 and enter oobe\bypassnro everytime is kindof a hassle, its annoying. I wish microsoft would stop enforcing security measures on people on first startup
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@@TonyTear Maybe an EU requirement for Windows that a local account is the default.
It's a shame that you can no longer activate your Windows without internet. Now I would like to know if anyone has a good key site?
What type of site do you want? OEM or Retail keys?
@@Mo-Thoughx what difference is there between the two?
@@Melissalove44
The difference is that with OEM you can go wrong since it could be the wrong key for your hardware. while in BNH-software, which is a retail site, they give you an official one.
@@Mo-Thoughx
Everything has become very clear to me. thank you so much!
Massgrave activates any edition that you want, including LTSC. The entire project is open-source. KMS38, is completely offline and is good until January 19, 2038 (aka Y2K38). HWID activation (digital licensing) is permanent and an internet connection is only required once for activation.
Removing extra drives, yes. My 10 install is scattered like that, I'm going to remember this when I fresh install 11...
Don't install 11.
@@ShermTank7272 Yeah just use windows 7 right. Give me 1 good reason for not installing 11
Just stay away from 11. Yes 10 will be less secure as time goes on, however if you’re careful in what you access, I’ve had no issues staying on Vista, and 7.
@@tacocat1714 And why would one stay in 10? What benefit does that give
I used to hate Windows 11, but Windows 11 is stable now. With WIndhawk and a registry hack for context menus Windows 11 have become bearable.
My main one that I always told people was remove all other drives while installing. I had that happen to me once over a decade ago, had sold my old drive, I had to learn how to rebuild a boot record real quick. Never made the mistake again, and always advocated for people to do this since. Glad you guys brought more awareness to it.
How about... don't install Windows 11
😂😂😂😂
Fedora or bust...
What's Windows 11? Isn't Windows 10 the last version of Windows?
+1 for fedora gaming
@@privacyvalued4134 Welcome to 2022
If you flash the iso with rufus, you can check some option to create a local account for you and skip online requirment, and skip privacy answer, you don't need to click anything in the oobe, in a few minute you have the desktop
Who need an OOBE? ~~ Famous last words.
Rufus is great 😁
Windows 16 installation steps. 1. login to M$. 2. hold your birth certificate to the camera 3. swipe credit card. All that for safe keeping, you know.
Nah, it will be downloaded directly to your neural network, passively. No choice.
Good to know Windows can still break an OS install on a drive you don’t select in the install.
The internet bypass option was removed a few weeks ago by Microsoft. So that's already not useful anymore, at least that's what a few articles said, but I haven't been able to confirm that myself yet.
This is correct, but can be bypassed again by using:
reg add HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\OOBE /v BypassNRO /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f
shutdown /r /t 0
Yeah, they decided to be difficult ha!
If you mount your iso with rufus you can select to skip creating an account altogether. You can bake a local account into the installation media
Its true. Ive tried a few times on different customers laptops. Best way right now is make 23H2 stick with Rufus, choosing their baked in options to disable networking
@@okay_bro88 You can also bake a local account via Step 1) Create or sign in to Microsoft Account on OOBE.
Step 2) When at the desktop, go to Settings > Accounts > Other Users [...]
Step 3) Add Other > don't have sign in info > Add user without MS Account > ??? > Confirm
@@Mario583a Microsoft automatically encrypts your drive using Bitlocker now and stores the Bitlocker key in the first Microsoft Account you sign into, so if you just make some fake temporary BS Microsoft account so you can then set up a local account, you're screwed if the Windows install ever becomes non-bootable because you can't recover the data without the Biltocker recovery key. You can mitigate this by following your suggestion and then searching for "encryption" under the Settings app, then turn off the encryption option.
ayyyy no I already did everything and nothing happens I'm about to cry
Try to install Windows10 and then upgrade into 11 maybe it's work
If Windows 10 won't be usable one day and W11 won't have some kind of reliably working anti-bloatware installer like tiny 11, then I am going SteamOS. I don't believe windows 12 will be any good. This is what happens when there is no competition. Products are not made with costumers in mind, but with corporations in mind.
If you need something (gaming primarily) more productive you've got Pop!_OS, Mint, and Fedora Kinoite
If you need something more gaming focused you've got Garuda, and Draugr
SteamOS development is still ongoing but slowed as the focus is on Steam Deck OS. But since Steam Deck OS is largely open source the benefits are being copied across to every mainstream Linux, so even Ubuntu and Fedora benefit from the improvements
Hth
Windows 11 can be installed easily and debloated properly. It’s a great OS. But you need to know how to deeply configure it. NTLite is a start. But that’s nowhere near what’s required to get the true windows feeling again.
None of these things mentioned apply in my situations. Windows 12 could come out tomorrow, and while people would bash MS for whatever bs they did this time around, I’d be able to get the real windows experience back with deep configuration and understanding of the OS.
I bypassed all these shits by capturing the image after [what I mentioned] and when installed (like shown on video, same procedure) it won’t bother u with this. It will straight go to desktop. And you’re ready to go.
@@Chibibowa People said that about 8 and 10, but at the end of the day, this stuff is getting worse and worse, while Linux and MacOS are getting better and better. Eventually, we're going to have to just accept that Windows isn't worth the hassle anymore
Mint Cinnamon + Steam.Deb = 99% the same performance as SteamOS and fully customizable with a large amount of support available.
Steam OS 2 kinda sucks though, and Steam OS 3 is currently SteamDeck exclusive.
You’d be better off with a standard Mint installation and just download proton/wine yourself
The only reason.
I repeat,
The ONLY reason a company like Microsoft would remove the ability to make an "offline" account and risk alienating some users would be that the data they collect from you, CONSENSUAL INFO AND NON-CONSENSUAL INFO, is all they care about and will do anything to make sure they have it under any circumstance.
Keep in mind that if you're setting up a prebuilt machine that happens to have S-Mode, then you can't do the offline bypasses. Not even if you manage to disable the driver at the beginning.
2:31 skip ad
ReVanced autoskip ftw
@@CyberPsychGaming Same
I found that if you do have an Internet connection but don't want to disconnect, you can select Work or School account, then select Connect to a Domain, and it will continue with an offline account. You won't ever have to actually connect to a domain. However, I believe this option ONLY works if you are using a Windows 11 Professional installation media.
@3:04 lol, I don't remember using CLI when installing Debian.. 😂 In fact, I could safely and with confidence just hit Next, Next, Next and get working OS without any traps and pitfalls. How the tables have turned! 😅
I can tell you, Debian and Debian based distros are fine BUT, if you are working on the computer Windows is just more seamless. Remote Desktop is the killer feature i can never replicate with linux
Fedora installed itself onto the drive I selected and _only_ that drive. So fancy!
@averagedev7768
Gnome has rdp and vnc builtin and For most other desktop environments, you can just install a nap. That will allow you to do remote desktop over VNC.
@@averagedev7768 Remote desktop was indeed a superior feature. The thing is that these days I don't need it at all: ssh is much faster and more precise. In fact I haven't touched Windows in years (for 20+ years working in IT).
Its funny how you mention remote desktop released on windows in 2000,
where Linux/Unix had this feature since 1987 and only recently dropped it since no one needed it any more
(there are much better solutions like ssh and vnc mentioned in comments above).
Once installed suggest: 1) revo uninstalled to properly uninstall OneDrive if don’t need it; (2) go to privacy settings and turn off all optional data collection items (which is all the tabs there); (3) if using an OLED monitor, make desktop black (or moving image) and remove all shortcuts from desktop as well make taskbar auto minimise (prevents possible burn in issue)
4:02 My suggestion is typically to install Windows 10 or Linux Mint. Microsoft does not respect users with some of the decisions made in Windows 11.
Sadly, I need Windows to play many of my games and Windows 11 for proper HDR support
@@_cedric_ If you need HDR support i hear Fedora Linux KDE has good HDR support through wayland or whatever.
Don't quote me though.
I too love to install old OSes with improper support for modern CPUs and other features (I’ll install the OS and it’ll be deprecated in a year)
Windows 11 can be installed easily and debloated properly. It’s a great OS. But you need to know how to deeply configure it. NTLite is a start. But that’s nowhere near what’s required to get the true windows feeling again.
None of these things mentioned apply in my situations. Windows 12 could come out tomorrow, and while people would bash MS for whatever bs they did this time around, I’d be able to get the real windows experience back with deep configuration and understanding of the OS.
Yeah about that..next year, windows 10 will stop bieng supported by around october.
Linux is sounding alot more simple than Windows (lol)
It is pretty much plug-and-play at this point.
Just to add, I won't watch this video because YT keeps insisting on 20 sec ads that aren't skippable.
Adguard
note: at 0:30, if you choose english world, it will also disable a lot of other functions of windows, one example that i had to painfully learn from was that you cannot use a shared windows key(like for enterprise or educational systems or whatever)
How did you know? I just started thinking about upgrading from 10 to 11, and there's your video! Thanks a lot!
I dont recomend it, 11 is worse than 10 and i hate windows 10 already 😤
Don't. There is absolutely no point in using W11 over W10. I use both a lot, and I am certain of this. W11 is just another mold of W10 with worse sounds, worse UI, worse functionality and more spying. From the user side, W11 does not have a reason to even exist.
You should still be able to upgrade directly from Win10 without needing to do a reinstallation, and avoid these steps.
I wouldn't go to windows 11. If you absolutely need it to be supported wait until next year
"Upgrading"
Good tip on disconnecting *all* your drives but the one the OS is going on before installation. More than once I've realized too late that Windows installed itself to be entirely dependent on 2 drives - one of them usually much older - to even function.
Having to do crap like choosing a "world option" to avoid bloatware is exactly why I no longer use windows, closed both my accounts with MS, and now we hear they want to go over to an annual pay plan, really? What's next? Capturing all your data?.......... Oh wait, that option is coming soon...... 🙄
What bloatware? the 8KB shortcut that exclaims, 'hey, the store is this way for all your needs. Discord?"
Capturing all your data is already on with Windows. XP sent every URL you visited to Microsoft, 7/8/10 send everything you *type* to Microsoft and a lot more
Glad you were able to leave Windows, did you go Linux or Mac?
@@ThePlayerOfGames Linux.
@@Mario583a If I have to explain "what bloatware" to you, then your head is already to far up to see anything sensibly... Bye.
@@GapRecordingsNamibia cool! ❣️ What flavour did you choose?
Sometimes fresh disks do not have GPT/MBR partitions tables, create them manually, otherwise you won't see the disk at installation.
I don't see this talked about enough, but there are still a lot of new drives out there that are not stock GPT formatted.
Luckily there is a MBR-GPT converter built into the command prompt now, that you can use from the installation medium.
I don't remember the exact "command prompt wizardry" but it is quite easy to find and do with a few Google/DuckDuckGo/Bing searches.
The title says it all. Don't let installing windows 11 happen.
1:19 Important to note that the driver search is not recursive - it won’t check subfolders. So if the extracted driver file is down a few subfolders, you have to go down and find that folder otherwise it comes up with no drivers found.
With shocking frequency, Windows 11 reveals to me the extent to which Microsoft has no idea what the hell they're doing (at least where Windows is concerned). They may as well rename it to WTF 11.
windows is just spyware.. they milk you dry and sell all your information that is all they care about.. stop using windows
They know exactly what they're doing. Bill Gates is one of the bishops of the "You will own nothing and be happy" movement. Widows 11 is the OS that will deny you of your right of ownership of your data, control over your PC, and an infringement on your privacy.
watching this was genuinely interesting as a linux user, the drives not showing up part is crazy 🤯
Friends don't let friends install windows 11
In my situation they are telling me to install 11 😅. Help nobody understands that 11 isnt better!
2:54 Another little known way to achieve this without needing to memorise the key combo to get the command prompt is just to install the drivers back when you're picking the installation drive, the Load Driver option seen at 1:17 works for non-storage drivers too.
I have a tip for those installing windows 11:
Install windows 10.
With EOS for 10 coming up you should just install 11 to avoid any issues you could have when updating
@@StuckProcessingunless if it is Windows 10 IOT LTSC, which has support until 2032.
@shoego I think you made a typo in "Linux Mint"
@@hubertnnn mm yes I love not being able to play most competitive online games because they hate Linux
@@PITZ24701 There is a small chance that the devs of a program would disable 10 support but hopefully it won’t since 7 lasted a long time even after support ended
The video title by itself is enough, no need to watch the video at all.
Do *not* let it install!!!
3:33 Ufff, that hurt me...
You would think that on a tech channel they wouldn't show such a wrong way to remove an Ethernet cable.
Looks like the clip is fucked from all the abuse 😢
It's a clip running in reverse, same as the nvme drive removal
If the install don't recognize your disk/SSD, that's not a driver problem anymore, the user must go to the bios and disabled CSM to fix this.
"If you have any suggestions for others installing Windows 11" Explore other options realistically. Take stock of what you actually do with your computer and look at what else is out there.
The fact that an Internet connection is required just to install the OS is insane to me, this should be unexceptable. If this is still a thing in the future, I'll just convert every device I have to Linux.
Super Pro Tip: Create a Rufus USB that bypasses all of the Windows 11 OOBE shenanigans (and hardware requirements), saves at least 10 minutes of clicking and typing
Shhhhhhhh.
We gotta Gatekeep this. Before ms blocks it too
Custom unattended file has entered the chat
I would love to know how as a long time rufus user
@@camsfour4177 - You can't be a long time user and not know how...
@@TheTruthDragonNJ09 i know the check boxes but not the windows 11 related check boxes.
Double check your keyboard layout. If '@' is on the '2' key, you have US, otherwise you may have UK. I live in Australia, and every day, I have people complaining that their keyboard is broken as they all try to match the English UK language setting with the English UK keyboard layout.
Our last Windows-based PC build was shortly after Microsoft decided to force us to Windows 11. Another once-great company starts its collapse, and it's entirely due to greed.
The correct interpretation of this video title is "Installing Windows 11? Don't let (this installation) happen!" Windows is a mistake.
Guys, if someone had a problem with their ethernet driver, and just wants to get through the setup, use an android phone, connect it by usb and enable tethering, this will make the computer see the internet connection from your cellular plan
Wow, nice workaround!
Don't you need your phone network's permission to do that?
@@Pelicanzzz nah you pay for it
Title should have ended right after "dont" with a hard period.
Nuh uh
1. I always disable "SysMain" and empty the C:\Windows\Prefetch folder EXCEPT for the ReadyBoot folder (you need to leave that there). The caching engine over time gets slower and doesn't really offer the benefits it once did.
2. Disable the "Connected User Experiences and Telemetry" service to reduce all that back chatter to MS you didn't want in the first place.
3. Open Task Scheduler, and in the root, "End" (if running) and disable any tasks you don't want to run. Example: Microsoft Edge or Adobe Acrobat. Reduce the background crap. Additionally, under Microsoft/Customer Experience Improvement you should consider the same tactics to reduce all that backchannel noise to MS.
That's *so* much work, eww. Can you guess what I'm gonna suggest instead?
Using Linux as an alternative used to be a joke but I'm going to start. 🤔 🤗 Oh wow, I almost forgot, I am on linux!
you can also get the ethnet driver by doing this
Shift F10
assuming your usb is named D, substitute it for what ever your name for your usb is
d: (your folder) \ (next folder) \ (your ethernet driver instillation that you should have saved)
hit enter
you now have your driver congrats
The most important thing when installing windows is way before the installer… disabling CSM support is a must on most modern boards, along with ensuring secure boot is enabled. Windows will install without these changes but notable performance issues will be seen and the drive will not be partitioned with the GPT partition scheme, rather it will have the old MBR scheme which will only add to the performance woes, most notably, the boot up speed of the device.
I Guess my takeaway and maybey an idea for a second video would be: “How to prepare your PC for a Windows install to avoid common issues” like those seen in this video.
Microsoft is ridiculous.
@@ScytheNoire its more of a user issue when not preparing your device properly for install. Linux has similar nuances.
System builders don’t just install software and expect third parties to configure the base platform.
there are also some occasions were windows 11 will let you install it in CSM (when upgrading back when it first came out for example) and then you won't get any updates. Ever. Had a friend who was stuck in 21h1/10.0.22000 until literally last month because his install was upgraded from 10 and had csm on, mbr install and secure boot disabled. Absolute headache to fix
@@ScytheNoire imo no one should have CSM enabled nowadays, excluding very few particular edge cases
If for some reason I ever need it on my computers (which has been... once in like 5 years), I always disable it afterwards
I have Secure Boot disabled on my PC and have not noticed any performance issues. Also, my drive has the GPT partition scheme.
My desktop is WAY to old for 11's nonsense and my laptop will NOT be getting 11 until I have no damned choice but to "upgrade".
My suggestion for a new Windows 11 install is don't, honestly I'd rather pay for extending my Windows 10 updates or even running past when update support goes away as Windows 11 is trash, likely that will finally be the push for me to go Linux as after a couple years with the Steam Deck that's honestly the way I want to go now.
I've had Win 11 since the day it launched and have never wanted to change that. Most everything is better than Win 10. I don't know why some, like you, have such an aversion towards Win 11.
If you want the Steam Deck OS experience on desktop look up "atomic" distributions. If you just want it for Steam, set up an autostart shortcut (*.desktop file) to launch Steam with the -tenfoot argument
@@bgezal Because Windows 10 doesn't patronize customers with double-UI, and doesn't boast blatant malware like copilot and whatever that other thing was called (recall, i rember now)
The second microsoft releases those things as mandatory software, that is the day Linux gains 5%+ market share. xD
Linux is already at like 4.45% last i heard.
@@MyouKyuubi double UI? I use Win 11, Win 10, Manjaro, Mint, and pihole. I'd never change my daily to linux.
I might drag on without windows 10 updates
On windows 10, I had issues with that drive selection issue multiple attempts in a row. Thankfully I had a second pc to sort things out.
Microsoft "support" is absolutely abysmal in 2024. I can't believe how poor it's become over the last 10 years.
Endless frustrating automated messages that waste your life, and then either a useless message saying they can't help you, or a useless level 0 customer service agent who knows less than the automated service you just had to suffer through.
Dogshiz company.
So true!
Just because you fire every employee that is decent at their job? Who could've foreseen this?
Even better, after 15 minutes of automated redirects it turns out, they forwarded you to the wrong department or the service worker "just isn't feeling it" and hangs up on your, so you gotta do it all over again.
Another thing to mention (if you are a developer or just someone that likes to have multiple OSes on their PC) is with recent versions of Windows 11, after you install windows, make sure to go to device encryption settings and disable Bitlocker (cuz that's enabled by default for some stupid unknown reason)
Not only does it slow down the drive (more noticeable on HDDs than SSDs), it outright prevents you from using a different Operating System entirely (which is a PAIN IN THE ASS if you intend to dual boot)
If you bypass Microsoft Account, make sure to immediately ensure Device Encryption is off.
even if you use one that should still be off there is no reason to use it for most computers
How else are people supposed to steal your hard drive's data when Device Encryption is on?
@ThunderClawShocktrix And if you want it use the full BitLocker that comes with Pro instead?
@@ThunderClawShocktrixFor me I like it for the peace of mind if my laptop gets stolen, but imo it should be opt in
@@ThunderClawShocktrix I think it was already on newest win 11 install media or it was in insider builds and coming to normal version.
There was lots of discussion some time ago. I don't know if they removed it but I don't know.
Also some laptops will encrypt disks in install. At least my father's laptop is encrypted and he's over 73 and he used default settings.
Tips for installing Windows 11? just install Zorin OS. About to make that move myself here in the next few months. Windows 11 is so bad I'd rather fight with Linux all day than wonder if Recall saw my personal information and shared it with whomever it decides to.
Windows 7 was great and Windows 10 made it look even better. It's amazing how windows 11 makes Windows 10 look pretty good in comparison
i'm still on windows 7 because even win10 is a nanny state OS. periodically on win10, trying to access your local drives may take longer because it needs to get permission from microsoft to access THE PHYSICAL DRIVE IN YOUR COMPUTER!. i ain't gonna deal with that.
You don't have to use the command prompt to install wifi drivers, you can install them at the drive window using the install drivers button. And it does work to just run the installer like normal, however, the installer will not show up, it will just run in the background, so you just have to trust that it works.
I had so much trouble when Microsoft decided to ban my burner windows account and i wasn't able to login anymore.
Thankfully managed to create a different account after some trouble shooting. Never again am i creating an online account. Not even a burner
Local all the way!
I ran into that "missing drive" issue a couple months ago. I went to install windows on a used laptop so my son could play Roblox, but the windows installer couldn't see the 500gb nvme drive. I tried several different driver packages but nothing worked. 20 min after giving up on windows, I had Linux Mint installed and fully updated. I did manage to install Windows 10 on an old notebook with an i5-4300u so he could play Roblox.
The only pitfall is the very idea that someone should install win11.
After installing Windows 11, I couldn't create a local account and had to sign into my Microsoft account. Then, it forced me to create a Windows Hello PIN instead of a password because "it only works on your device", and even created my user's folder in C:\Users naming it as "heheh", which is not the name I wanted the folder to have. I ultimately had to delete that user and create another user just to be able to properly get into Windows. It's absolutely ridiculous that I had to do this.
Windows 11 nope.
Switching back to Linux when W-10 is forced out of my cold dead hands.
some people don't want Linux windows 11 is a reasonable os as long as you have tmp2.0 i rally don't understand what the deal is with some people acting like windows 11 is the worst os ever.
@@supersaiyaman11589 It's not a bad OS. The point is that it's an evil trojan.
If you install it with a microsoft account, make sure you change your profile type to a local profile later. And uninstal any bloatware: cortana, one drive,...
yes, don't let "installing windows 11" happen.
0:55 that is a guaranteed issue with HP Laptops and Desktops with 11th Gen Intel Core Processors
Can confirm that, HP only provides a .exe file for chipset drivers, but once the exe is extracted (7zip will do), there is a folder called F6 with the NVMe driver (why F6 ? because with win2000/XP/server 2003, you had to spam the F6 key in order to load a 3rd party disk controller at the very first step of install).
I know this is a tech "quickie" but... What bloatware exactly? What's not getting installed when I select English (World) that would otherwise get installed? Would be nice if the video expanded on reasoning rather than giving blind instructions to follow
Yeah, it would have been great if they included the reasons for doing it...
I would also like to know, but I would very much trust anybody, who'd argue, Microsoft installs unwanted crap on your system. With every god damn update, that programs button is highlighted for me to find out, that yet another piece of unwanted software was put on my drive.
There are good reasons, why I used to be a Windows fan in XP times, and today I highly despise Microsoft. But using it simply is a necessity.......
it removes such things as Candy crush Saga! Don’t be love, Candy crush Saga! Don’t we love, Microsoft solitaire collection! it removes things like that I’m not sure exactly what else but it remove certain things
Many people report stuff like Candy Crush, Spotify, maybe some other stuff that preinstalls itself or even after reinstalling after an update. But I've never had that issue.
Probably Cortana. Since its launch in 2014 it still can only be used in 7 places in the world: US, UK, China, France, Italy, Germany, and Spain.
I downloaded Win 11 from the cloud instead of a usb. It didn’t ask me no more than a couple of questions during setup. This video explains WTH happened. It’s ran bad ever since then.
'Install Windows 10.'
3:01 you can avoid the CLI here by doing the driver back at the disk stage - once you have picked the disk to install to you can’t go back, so I like to do ethernet/wifi before the storage driver so I don’t forget.
My biggest suggestion: Don't install windows.
I have to.
Steering Wheel and other devices need windows
The not recognizing drives is when the bios is showing your Hard Drive in Raid mode. Switch it to AHCI and then it will show. For some reason the Raid mode prevents recognition of the drive on older installers.
How to install w11 without stress: don't, just install w10.
0:54 some laptops wont show any devices at all because the bios prevents access to the system's drives. This can be solved by tinkering with some BIOS settings.
This issue is particularly observed with modern Acer laptops.
Me: (has Windows 10 LTSC)
Went over to Linux as my main system, 3 weeks in and not looked back, only the gaming system is running windows.
When does the monopoly lawsuit start?
Great topic! It’s crazy that this video is needed but more people need to be aware of how to create a local account.
When I got my laptop 6 months ago, I re-installed W11 because you never know, what kind of spyware they ship it with.
At that point, Microsoft had already killed the common methods for bypassing the mandatory Microsoft account, but while trying out different methods within those installation screens, I somehow triggered the OS to give me the "I don't have internet" option without me doing something particular. My guess is, that I let the laptop sit for so long while googling those methods on another computer, that it went into sleep mode several times along the installation. Seemingly Windows got annoyed and let me choose an offline account. Which is the only way to go, frankly.
Should there ever be no circumvention anymore to some BS online account, I would instantly switch to Linux. But I very much assume, the community will always find ways to escape the rapey mentality of corporations.
Best way is to just go to Linux as your primary so you don't have to worry about Microsoft rapeyness in your life, and run Windows in a VM if you think you really need it
@@ThePlayerOfGames That is what I am intending to do in the future, but that needs time and dedication, since the general gist is, that Linux has become very good, but is still plagued by compatibility issues and you basically need to educate yourself to be an IT professor in order to handle everything around Linux. I am not afraid of that, for me it's only about the time it will require, until I will have the impression, that everything works as I want it to.
I don't know when that day will come, but I am certain that it will. Apple would never be an option and Microsoft seems to devolve with every version of the OS. So it's gotta be Linux. Plus open source and user orientated, what's not there to love.
@@Marc_Fuchs_1985 Mint Cinnamon and Ubuntu are pretty much plug and play at this point. Me, parents, GF, sister, neighbors, have a bunch of new and old PCs/Laptops running Mint Cinnamon. Mint 22 has the newer 6.8 kernel by default and pipewire enabled, worked great on my SER5-5560U and my GF's SER5-5800H machines. No Windows here!
@@Marc_Fuchs_1985 You can get a head start running linux in a VM. Hyper-v if your running w11 pro. If not, virtualbox is free (but slow graphics) and theres a free version of vmware. You can also install linux to an external disk. With a little work, you can do that through a vm, run it in that vm, and then boot to it from bios. And if that external is an enclosure, you can then put that in your pc and boot as normal. Linux doesn't care what its booted from.
"When I got my laptop 6 months ago, I re-installed W11 because you never know, what kind of spyware they ship it with."
Windows 11 IS the spyware.
How about a video how the start menu keep getting slower and unusable..
Windows: Installation for a basic setup requires the console. Wants a cloud account. Will ignore what you say and install everywhere. Insists you use Bing.
Linux: Installation for a basic setup doesn't require the console. Doesn't want a cloud account. Will do exactly what you say. Lets you use what you want.
My, how the mighty have fallen...
That moment you realize you're truly in charge of your own computer again...
I think you should leave only need/doesn't need console for instal. It's a just a meme. I've rewatched my PC games library and moved to Mac leaving most PC games from steam to steam deck or Asus legion go (last one just in case I need a pecifically windows machine for something). Playing on consoles or even Mac (session online games run well and I mostly play LoL or WoW on a PC). PC and windows are just that bad now that I'm leaving PC master race after 25 years.
You sure about the "world" thing ? I've read recently that it wasn't a good solution and just remove the shortcut from the start menu, nothing more
But never tried, I used a custom iso for mine
Obligatory "I use Arch, btw" comment.
Manjaro, personally.
Fedora in dualboot with 11 ans one oc for work/study with only win11
NixOS here. Not for everyone, but definitely for me.
@@atemoc for me too
Bazzite and Debian here
Again...Staying 10 strong for the foreseeable future here. Past EOL and likely ESU too. Like i did for 7 until the PC hardware died. And was "forced" to go to 10. Anyways. Us 10s won't go down without a fight to the death! 💪🏻🤓🖖🏻
Micro$oft make me feel they own my computer more than me more and more as time passes... 😒
Micro$oft is really weird way of spelling Garbagesoft.
They do, or at least they think and act like they do. Consider Windows to be malware, if you've installed it you've installed a keylogger, URL sniffer, network sniffer, file gister, mouse tracker, and activity tracker just to name a few
With Linux you own your own PC
@@ThePlayerOfGames Ok, I agree with most of what you say except the part where you at least imply that anything that Garbagesoft does is by accident and not their core agenda to consolidate all of the PC market not just non mac/Linux users under their OS and software as a service BS they've been trying to implement as their own personal monopoly since the very inception of Windows!
The best part is when the driver for the Wi-Fi isn't installed in the process
I'm sure many will jump at the chance to say it, but this time it's warranted-if installing Windows 11 is such a hassle, why not go Linux? With Steam and Proton, it's literally a no-brainer for most users.
100% ❤
It's funny cause Linux performance from my (limited) testing is actually better. On top of that, I haven't found a single game that can't run in Proton or Lutris/Wine. At most, movies in some VNs don't work, because they're coded to run with windows media player, but that's it.
Hell, even anti cheat games are now working on Linux. All the HoYo games now run without banning, VAC kicked me from a CS2 game once. Just leaves RIOT that hates Linux, but I'd say that's a good thing they don't run on Linux.
@@kanavyre Man, yeah, Lutris is great and Steam's done a lot to expand Linux support as well.
Linux isn’t as beginner friendly, and proton isn’t a perfect solution for compatibility issues.
Add Ubisoft to the “Too stubborn to allow Linux” list. If Rainbow 6 Siege was available on Linux I’d have switched already
I'm attempting to install Windows 8.1 on a machine that is ripped from my DVD and setup with Rufus. I'm gonna see if Rufus stops activation at all. Just as a test though, I plan on separate Windows 7&10 SSDs.
I'm just here to see how many people suggest Linux
All of them!
@@davidellis1355 I didn't just suggest it, I've spent the last week installing it after seeing this video
Sometimes drives won’t pop up because of the bios, it can happen if you come from an old pc (win 8.1 and previous), you just have to reinstall the last version of windows you know worked and update the bios.
At this point is easier/more convenient to install Mint, Pop OS or Ubuntu
no
crazy how any linux distro is easier to install than windows. installing fedora ubuntu or mint is so much easier and faster, too bad that this ease of access is instantly lost when you try to use the computer as a "win10" (talking abt compatibility, different file types, terminal, ...)
Nobara Linux automates a lot of tweaks you have to do in other distros to make most Windows games run out of the box.
@@xsham6224installing any Linux distro on some laptops will make that the fans and the temp don't work, and you will have to fix it while the computer is running hot, how is that easier? Also not all hardware "just works" inside of Linux, I like using Linux, but saying is faster and easier is just wrong
@@SCP-tn2ln That's why you buy Linux laptops to run Linux. You don't buy a Mac to run Windows do you?