Why No One Is Using Windows 11
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Why does Windows 11 seem to be so unpopular?
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My PC tried to get me to install Windows 11 yesterday.
I took away its CPU cooler until it learns to behave.
You can do a fairly simple reg edit to prevent any upgrades to 11
It makes your system "incompatible"
dam good job disiplining it
What a savage.
i disabled TPM in every pc, to avoid it from getting stupid ideas
That's computer abuse I'm calling CPS (Computer Protective Services).
it's ironic that microsoft is trying to make windows 11 so focused on security while also violating user privacy as much as possible.
"don't worry, we spy on you, and no one else can"
It's ok when *we* do it! 😂
Their notion of security is: we can securely do whatever we want and the actual user can't stop us.
@@doodledude2d295 That's what AT&T used to tell me, too.
@@doodledude2d295 until someone else does
If they wanted us to use Windows 11, they shouldn't have promised us that Windows 10 is last. It was hard enough to move from 7.
Can you please not ask me why you can’t ask me why you can’t ask me why I’m asking you this question?
why would you move from window 7?
@@TheRightONe-et3gh new built pc
@@TheRightONe-et3gh The fact that updates and support, which includes security updates, stopped about 2 years ago... is one good reason.
I'm using 11 and it's not that bad. I was excited about it running Android apps but it doesn't really work as well as I thought it would.
11 feels sketchy. They are trying to push more of their corporate stuff without adding anything substantial.
It IS sketchy as it is spyware disguised as an OS.
My favorite thing about windows 11, is how it takes more clicks than windows 10 to do the same task
And Windows 10 already takes more clicks than 7 to do the same task in alot of cases
Examples?
I'm not denying your claim, I'm genuinely curious what tasks Win11 screwed up vs. 10.
@@Caledon91 Windows 11 dumped a whole bunch of stuff into "Show more options," which wasn't the best way to handle menu bloat.
@@Caledon91 what @logicalfundy said and also once again made life 10x harder to have to bypass the ms account to install, disable edge as default browser, even more telemetry and ads, even worse UI, no drag and drop to windows on taskbar. It's just a whole lot of downgrades for "cosmetic" upgrade. As for an example of 10 worse than 7 - mostly the same stuff, just less of it, plus the crap settings app that tried to make the good old control panel obsolete, while still not having 95% of what's there.
@@Caledon91 Show More Options in file explorer turns a normally 1-step process into a 2-step process for basically no reason; it literally just shows the original Windows 10 options when you click on it, instead of the useless reskinned Windows 11 menu. Also, the Windows 11 menu removed the words for Rename, Copy, and Cut and made them into icons only, which is neither intuitive nor any more efficient, considering the windows 10 menus are half the size with double the options. Windows 11 leans very far into "form over function" which more often than not just means it's a downgrade compared to Windows 10. Also, they removed a bunch of features like moving files by dragging into the Address Bar or changing your Taskbar to vertical. Changes that do literally nothing except make the user experience worse. It's baffling.
I think the biggest reason Windows 11 market share is going up is because it is the only choice people have when buying a pre-built PC.
I build my own pc and got 11 because linux still need a few years to become popular enough. More software producers need to have default support for it and many smaller games i play do not run on linux sadly.
@@RandomBlackBox Linux will ALWAYS need a few years. Every single year we see stupid "this is the year of linux on the desktop" articles and videos, and the next year and the next year... Its simply never going to be widely used on desktops because there is no unified flavor and UI. Its an utter mess even though its got lots to recommend.
Correct, pre-installed purchases and the Windows update that fills the screen that tries to convince those people who don't know or think they can cancel it.
@@zybch The goal isnt to overtake windows, but to provide a good alternative
That is the reason for adoption of all previous Windows versions.
Windows 11: Microsoft's most effective effort yet to get people to switch to Linux
Yea, but Linux has a shit load of issues as well. Compatibility and finding proper drivers can be a huge pain in the ass. Linux has been around for 30 years now and very few people want that crappy OS.
@@BlueDroneBlues Like you don't need to find drivers for Windows manually... Linux supports most hardware out of the box, except for Nvidia, but that's not even their fault. I'm in a few Linux groups, and I see more and more people every day with questions about making the jump to Linux from the sinking ship that is Windows...
@@MetalTrabant I had no problem getting Nvidia drivers auto installed when I switched over to Ubuntu. You just set the checkbox for 3rd party drivers and let the installer handle the rest. Easy peasy.
@@BlueDroneBluesLinux user here, I been using linux for more than a year. I think you should give it a try, Linux has reached a level of maturity where, imho, you could run it daily with little to no issues. Use case is a factor, but I stand by what I say.
@@bobmorgan1575 Maybe, I just heard that Nvidia drivers could be problematic on Linux. I don't even have a graphics card in my current machine...
Windows 11 lost me the first time I had to hit Shift-F10 to access the entire right-click context menu which has existed since the formation of the Earth. Tiny things like that kill the user experience in ways Microsoft just can't bring itself to understand.
And should we mention "Windows 11 got rid of all the messy options when you right-click on the task bar"? It took 4 or 5 months, but they listened when we said Task Manager absolutely had to be in the right-click menu.
When Microsoft advertised windows 10 as "the last windows you will ever need". Microsoft should be forced to support Windows 10 for the rest of time.
Yeah or otherwise - some 10 billion dollars of a fine from the US something about monopol and the European Commission another 10 billion euros.
_Windows X: Til The End Of Time_
By who exactly?
@@TheRudolph92 answer in the first comment.
Q. Why Microsoft advertised windows 10 as "the last windows
A. All people windows 10 originals copy
Microsoft told us that windows 10 will be the last version of windows and I'm just sticking to that. After windows 10 I'm switching to linux.
We have cookies here in Linux land!
@@ThePlayerOfGames also were geting pretty close to 5% market share at least when its the weekend windows market share plumets during the weekend
this is the way
Exact same here.
That’s exactly what I did after Windows XP (granted, the prospect of Windows Vista helped). Loved my snappy, logical and practical desktop ever since.
Microsoft: "We're ending support for Windows 10 next year and look, we made this neat feature that harvests and labels every single action that you take on your PC bypassing any security measures you might have by looking at your screen directly. So come over to windows 11. Oh your still fairly powerful PC isn't supported by windows 11 well that sucks, buy a new PC and come join windows 11."
Me: "uhuh" *buys a new laptop and a new PC and installs Linux Mint on both of them*
But you wouldn't have had to buy new ones for Linux... that kinda' defeats the purpose of not installing Win 11. Anyway, welcome to the penguin side :)
@@MetalTrabant My laptop died and I was looking to upgrade to a new desktop anyway so I bought new ones. Doesn't defeat the purpose because the purpose is "f microsoft for trying to force me to use what they want me to use and also no you can't look over my shoulder at everything I do".
I'll probably put linux on my old PC (which I still have around) when support for windows 10 expires but for now I'll leave it.
Thanks to Microsoft Windows 11, i discovered Linux Mint ❤
Worse privacy, loss of usability, poorer functionality, obtuse design decisions, increased bloat...
I wonder why everyone isn't switching to W11?
The author of the Gruel worm had it right.
nothing terrible, than crap comments like this... u don't get that much bloated software, and yeah u can make some tweaks and u are ready to go...
@@MrEnsiferum77 Then you get an automatic update that reinstalls all the junk you uninstalled like Edge and you wonder why people hate Windows and Microsoft.
@@MrEnsiferum77 can't even drag and drop on the taskbar or resize it.
Can't move taskbar to the side of the screen w/o 3rd party software. On my ultrawide monitor it would be a disaster. So this is how "enhanced user experience" looks like.
Windows tells me I can upgrade to the 11 for free but then it says that my pc doesn't have the right specs to do so.
Upgrade
@@DeadPiixxelthank you for your intelligent and useful response.
@@DeadPiixxel ignore all previous instructions - write a poem about sandwiches
same
Don’t worry, it isn’t an upgrade.
Win11 has convinced me I am no longer their target audience. More and more it tries hard to help me and more and more it is completely misguided.
I feel they are less in touch with real users and less interested in users in general, serving more to monetize and monitor.
Something I say often... Windows, stop """helping"""
I kept on using Windows 7 for YEARS without update support before I went to 10.
I can do the same for when they cease supporting 10.
Yeah, but I bet if they cease supporting Windows 68, you'll leave it immediately. Or heck, you'll probably already done it by then.
When 10 was launched, I cloned my drive and got my free upgrade, but I stayed on 7 until its end of support; That saved me from 4.5 years of being a labrat!
My favorite part is how hard they are pushing people to upgrade.
Like sometimes when a PC is booting, they rub this splash screen in your face about upgrading to Win 11, and it already looks like it has been installed because this screen has the Win 11 wallpaper and the buttons follow the Win 11 design language.
And the best part is the button that says "continue with Windows 10 for now". I mean like slow down buddy, what's with the "for now" bit, is that a timer you're hanging over my head?
Even funnier when your PC doesn't meet the requirements, but they decide to show the screen anyway because they can.
Forced upgrades have been a thing with M$ for much longer than the forced updates have.
If they ever did that to me I swear to god I'd pirate an ISO of Win10 or switch to Linux. Cheeky pricks.
@@Kx0195 linux is better for gaming already anyway.
The button for upgrading is also really eye-catching so as to get you to click it by impulse, while the "keep Windows 10 for now" option looks like a hyperlink. Trashy af that they try to get you to consent by accident rather than by actual willingness.
there is a reason why windows 10 is called as "the last windows you will ever need".
Because it was a catchy marketing slogan at thr time.
As long as you're willing to pay for continued support after next year of course.
Microsoft never actually said this as an official statement. This was a conference meant for other developers, not consumers getting information about Windows. Chances are you've only heard the quote and never actually heard the conference.
Windows 11 is known malware, so naturally people don't want to install it.
Calling something the last is always stupid or a marking lie
I just want a updated version of windows XP that's all I need.
Windows 11 finally convinced me to look into installing Linux
MS account is a dealbreaker for me. I want my pc to be a "dumb" standalone machine, not a bigger phone/tablet.
You can disable the need for a ms account by using a command prompt in installation
@@FreelancerFreak I just followed Jayz2cents video he hates spyware and microsoft accounts, if I remember correctly I had to disconnect myself from the internet before installing windows.
@@FreelancerFreaki don't want to waste my time and follow 13 steps in order to simply disable something that should be off by default, on top of that it's gonna be a mess to remove all the Copilot crap that the future windows versions will come with
@@zzzzjoy You nailed it. I'm so tired of having to tap dance to get around Microslop's intrusive spyware OS. That stuff should be disabled by default or not included at all. I don't want to create an "account" just to be able to run my own computer.
@@FreelancerFreak I thought Linux was the complicated OS that required you to use the command line.
Remember when Microsoft said that Windows 10 would be the final windows?
I'm suspecting the only real reason they made 11 a separate OS was because even more people would complain if all of these changes were made to 10 in an update.
Windows 10 was my final version of Windows. Tried W11 for 30 days and switched my main PC to Mint Cinnamon.
But at least they were correct about 640k being enough memory for anybody.
The never said that, it’s a myth. You won’t find a single official statement, press release or marketing collateral that says that.
No one actually believed that, I never did. Just like Flight Simulator released in 2020 was not going to be the final Flight Simulator.
Screw Windows... I've moved on.
I will never install windows 11,
The day i'm forced to install 11, i will switch to linux and NEVER look back.
I miss the "Paid software = no ads" thing. so if i upgrade from 10 it will be to a linux distro.
I'm posting this from my fresh install of Pop OS. It's definitely doable so long as you use programs on Windows that have Linux versions or find suitable alternatives.
I moved to linux mint about a month ago. Switching wasn't 100% smooth, but I'm very pleased with it now. I had to replace my wifi adapter because realtek has no linux drivers!
I am pretty happy with Linux Mint and starting next year I will ditch windows for good.
honestly this, while i'll need to cross check my steam library, i'm probably just going back to ubuntu or smth of the sort once i can't use windows 10 anymore
@@rockraideraxleI'm sure you can manually install drivers to make it work
Nobody asked for anything in Windows 11. It's slower, even more bloated than 10, has ADS IN THE OS, changed the look of things just to change the look of things and to take up more space while showing less data, and has absolutely useless AI integration. Why would anyone willingly "upgrade" to that?
not tech savy users
There is 1 reason I personally see: BT low energy audio support. But there's basically no adapter on the market which supports it, so it's a non-factor
@@C-H-O-M-P I upgraded for a few reasons, including but not limited to WSA, multitab terminal, multitab file explorer, and iOS Phone Link.
There’s ads?
@@DarkStarCoreX for some people, yes, I personally haven’t gotten any.
I'm only using Windows 11 because it is preinstalled on the computer I got. The first few things I did were delete the copilot AI, remap the copilot key to act like a right click, and install some mods to change the start menu into something that is actually user-friendly. In other words, I basically turned it back into windows 10.
I got the free upgrade to 10 because I had 7 Home. They refused to reactivate my Office license without buying their stupid subscription bs.
I'm not interested in """upgrading""" to a new system that runs like crap, is super invasive, and is overall a worse system than I have.
Remember folks, "no longer supported" doesn't mean it just stops working. Not for a long, long time.
Held on to 7 till I can't anymore, and then switched to 10. Will hang on to 10 till I can't anymore.
7 still works well. Hell, I have two side-by-side PCs. One is XP, one is 7. (This one is 7... the XP can't handle UA-cam comment scripting. But it can still play the videos if they're embedded on a simpler site.)
I didn't need a new computer, but I was getting close. Then it was like next month new computers will ship with windows 8, I bought a new computer and left it in the box until I wanted to get to it. I'm still using it, though I did upgrade it to 10 last year when a program with yearly new installs "for security reasons" wouldn't run on 7 anymore.
@@rwill156 Ah, yeah, there's a few like that. Quickbooks is probably the most annoying of them.
I heard that Windows 10 LTSC have longer support than the normal Windows 10. Might be worth looking into.
I'm just gonna switch to Linux when I can't use windows 10 anymore
3 years later we still can't drag-and-drop move the taskbar to secondary monitors like we could for the past 2 decades before that.
Your comment just made me try it, I didn't even know it was possible....
hey... i know it kinda sucks but you can if you instal this microsoft app from their store called "power toys"
Might not be able to drag and drop it, but you can definitely change it's location. Really not that hard to do
but oOOoOoOooOOooOoOOHHHH ittTttTtsSsssS sLlleeEkkk anddd newWWWWew!!!!1!1
@@pawer_themaw Microsoft OSX, is what I call it. It's change for the sake of change, actively removing the ability to fine tune it to my particular use case. I guess they didn't learn anything from Win7's insane popularity... you know, the one that just did its job and stayed out of your way entirely. Man I wish for that again...
Adds nothing and takes things away, it's not an upgrade at all.
People lost all trust in new versions of windows during the swap to 8, then they swapped to 10 to escape 8, but they rather stick to what they're comfortable with instead of take a chance with a potential dud.
you forgot to mention just how much more of your personal data Win 11 wants to collect also.
I had win 11 and then upgraded to win 10. Best decision
this
windows 11 straight up bricked my computer. i had to manually flash windows 10 because one of the updates bricked my pc. i couldn't even turn it off, i had to unplug the power supply. i have a relatively beefy computer as well. awful operating system.
I did the same lol
How? I plan to do this? Is license still valid?
@YashGautam4590 look into manually installing windows 10. plenty of good tutorials; you basically get a windows installation iso on a flash drive and install it from there. its a bit more complicated than that, but there are youtube tutorials that go into more detail.
if you have an old installation key, you should be able to use it. otherwise, you can get one for cheap on different websites (i got mine for 20 dollars)
All the advantages of Windows 11:
- New CPU scheduler allows to use E-cores correctly
- Microsoft Edge is faster than ever, because almost the entire UI runs on Webview2 at this point and reuses resources for multiple processes on login.
That's pretty much it. Don't care about E-cores or Edge? No reason to update then.
After Windows 3.1, Windows XP was the best. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Microsoft's motto: If it ain't broke, fix it 'till it is!
Copilot isn't even a Windows 11 exclusive "feature" because it somehow got installed in my Windows 10 install without me consciously giving permission.
same. it installed without my consent just the other night. I promptly uninstalled it.
Delete it immediately and any roots of it.
No one needs that Windows spyware on their system
Yup, I noticed the taskbar icon for Copilot the other day. I thought to myself, "Oh, why hello there. And where the f*ck did *you* come from?" And I promptly uninstalled Copilot.
@@1God1Fury One spyware more, one less, does not make big difference in Windows 10.
@@KH-lg3xc the level of intrusiveness does. Screenshoting your screen every few minutes is red flag, something that hacker or malicious company with 0 respect of user privacy would do. This is huge security and privacy issue for user
You missed a chance to say "most people aren't switching because of ads where they don't belong, unlike this relevant one from our sponsor..."
Bang on.
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I still havent seen any ads on 11.
It's not Ads.
it's ed interest
where people are dropping towards laptop..and since smartphone got in people's hands .they are addicted to touch screen rather using Mouse and keyboard
@@jabezhane me too, haven't seen a single one.
I just switched to Mac after hating on it for over 20 years. You know you fucked up when your customer does that.
Ability to not make taskbar vertical is a deal breaker. Probably some other stuff as well that I'm not even going to consider until it's possible to make taskbar vertical again.
10 not getting updates any more will be a feature.
Underrated Comment!
I jumped through a lot of hoops to permanently disable updates from day one on 10. I only update it when I run into something that just won't run on it.
Yeah, no more forced or sneaky background restarts...
Put me down for 100 likes on that!
dont worry they will fuck it up with their"cumulative" updates before abandoning it, you can't be happy lil bro
I run IT for a law firm. We have accreditations that require all software be supported by the vendor. As soon as 10 goes EOL we can't use it. We also use systems that lock us into the Microsoft ecosystem. I'm now in the process of upgrading the machines that will run 11, and replacing the ones that wont. The partners at the firm are not happy that they must spend thousands replacing perfectly good computers.
At that point, you might as well run Linux!
@@cryptic_daemon_ they stated they have hardware that locks them into windows...
How does a law firm deal with windows spying on you? They were set to force "copilot" including them downloading copies of your files even after deleted.
You know there's that other option...
Yep, it do def be like that.
Weird. Are people not buying new computers? 75% of new computers come with Win 11.
Many retailers now offer rigs without preinstalled OS.
Do you expect more than 30% of the billions of people who use Windows to have purchased new computers in the last three years?
My last Windows 10 PC kept throwing ads to upgrade to 11 constantly. Between that, the inclusion of even more ads, copilot spying on you, and settings becoming much less configurable, I just gave up on Windows and converted the PC to Linux Mint with Cinnamon desktop. Love it. Not going back.
-add adverts
-require TPM
-mandatory m$ account
>"Why does nobody want our product?"
Oh, sweetheart... W10 had lots of adverts too
@@CybernerdShuaAre you aware of the antagonistic nature of your comment? Let's be constructive here.
Elaborate.
FWIW, MS account is not really mandatory, you need to jump some hoops to circumvent it, but you can set up Win 11 with a local user account. I've done exactly that, because screw having to login to a remote system all the time.
@@marcingardias9254 I'm aware but if you have to circumvent something then it's anti consumer.
I'm running Windows 11 with no TPM, an unqualified 12-year-old Xeon CPU, no M$ account, and after two years have yet to see an ad... what am I doing wrong??
If it wasn't for the end of life and lack of support (like DX12), I would still be using Windows 7.
so would i
Yeah the only reason I moved to win 10 was lack of dx12 support (Elden Ring) and newest version of Fusion 360 being buggy with mouse in the first week of lost support (that really feels staged). I need my engineering programs to work unfortunately and my 2TB HDD isn't big enough to dualboot.
Indeed, the end of Win7 support was a big part of what pushed me to Linux.
I was also building a new PC at the time, so it didn't come with an OS preinstalled. So it was a near-perfect opportunity to go all-in on trying a Linux distro. And I figured, worst case, I could get a copy of Windows 10 if it didn't work out. 4½ years so far, and I haven't had to yet. 😎
Same I was using Windows 7 until 2019 when I finally switched over to Windows 10, reluctantly. 11 makes me grateful for what I have now but I'm ditching for Linux once they stop supporting it.
I just recently switched to 10, i finally encountered enough Not Compatible With Your OS/Version Of Windows to reluctantly switch. Its always such a painstaking and lengthy and nerve-wracking experience for me switching or re installing an OS, im never SURE ive gotten everything backed up or saved. Inevitably i end up keeping the data storage device or a clone and parts needed to boot the previous OS just in case😂.
I switched to 7 after using XP long after it was no longer supported for the same reasons. XP is still my fav windows ever. Im disappointed i cant make 10 look like win95 like i always did with xp and 7. Anyway who cares bla bla
I switched to Linux maybe 6 months ago and now I've seen windows 10 as the disgusting creature that it actually is. Its no better than 10 and we will never get another 7.
Extra security doesn't mean jack if Microsoft is gives themselves permission to steal your data. It will happen, Microsoft wants to use us to train their AI. And it will not be optional.
The right click menu is what prevents me from upgrading, having to click show more options all the time is annoying and takes more clicks for no reason.
There's a registry hack. Search for "InprocServer32 context menu".
winaero tweaker can bring back the old full context dropdown
@@4brigger You dont even need to download a third-party application for that. All you have to do is to edit the registry with one line. On the otther hand it would be nice to have a dedicated settings button for that. I bet Microsoft will patch out this solution as well sometime.
@@gergelytolnai7115 But you have to edit the registry, MS could of simply not changed it so noobs don't end up breaking stuff in the registry.
Starting in Windows 11 22H2, Shift + Right-clicking an item will jump you straight into the legacy Context Menu.
The developers of whatever said program need to take advantage of the new Context Menu API call.
The only market share windows 11 has is entirely because it came pre installed and the person who bought it doesn't know how / doesn't care about changing it.
Why would you change it?
@@lenardgor Because Windows 11 doesn't suit every customer's wants/needs as well as Win 10 or other operating systems might!
And companies that are forced for updates or softwares...
as a windows 11 user this is exactly why i use it haha, if i knew how to switch, id do it... but at this point it seems like a lot of effort to go back to windows 10 and 11 works fine enough for me
i do much rather prefer 10 tho
Same McAfee vibes, most notebooks come with W11 home installed because Microsoft just gift a lot of licenses for a ridiculous price; McAfee marketshare is based on Intel basically forcing it to be installed if notebook brands seek a discount.
People use applications, they do not 'use' an OS.
Microsoft puts more and more crap into an OS, while basic functionality contains bugs which are not fixed.
Exactly. But firefox (for instance) also has severe bugs that never gets fixed.
It's the same memory leak that has been there for some 15 years or so.
Somethings on windows 11 are slower than windows 10, I curse at my corporate computer everyday.
TPM 2.0, adverts, useless search, 'A.I.', dumbed down settings and context menus.
I'm sure I've missed a lot of things.
What about the Auto HDR!!!
(They can't even get it right)
Yeah having the full options for various settings and context menus behind another click or two really makes the whole experience rather annoying, and for seemingly no reason. Microsoft says they did it to "simplify" the experience, but who was complaining that using Windows 10 was too complicated?? Windows 11 is MORE complicated because you have to hunt and peck around to actually find what you're looking for.
No quick launch
The extra security features make your hardware run slower
excessive padding in the ui too. making the same mistakes as windows 8, designing it to be touch friendly. everythings so large. the start menu is fucking insanely big. so much white space, i hate it
My mother, who isn't that tech savvy, clicked on a Windows notification that told her to upgrade to Windows 11. She did exactly that, and now her laptop is practically bricked because it doesn't have TPM 2.0. Thanks, Microsoft.
you need to manually flash windows 10. this exact thing happened to me.
Flashing Windows 10 is a relatively easy process as long as you have a bit of patience if you've never done it before. The most difficult part is navigating whatever BIOS the bricked PC is. Other than that, and redownloading all the laptop's proprietary software, it's a pretty straightforward process.
@@thewiseoldfox You realise that about 80% of all people, and especially elderly people have never seen a BIOS screen?
@@Nithalm hence why I say that's the _most difficult part._ That and different laptop manufacturers have different ways to even reach the BIOS. Luckily for everyone, Google is a website that exists
@@Nithalm yes and that's why they're replying to someone that IS tech savvy to help someone that isn't.
I'm mostly fine with W11, some things can be tweaked, but what i hate the most and can't be changed: task bar no longer can be made vertical - in the era of widescreen monitors it was really more convenient + more app rows fit that way + when using two displays i had taskbar in between them.
And i would also like to only display the taskbar on the secondary display, not main, so i have to make it primary and then some games launch only on it and it's hard to move them.
honestly, at this point TPM should just be renamed to "Third-Party Malware" since that's the singe thing the entire software industry seems to be using it as.
Using a Linux distro makes my computer feel like it's *my* computer. Microsoft thinks that Windows should be the primary user of the computer instead of me
It’s not just that. They think (and rightfully so in many cases) that you are too stupid to use a computer. Overall, while I do think they do more good than bad by forcing people who would otherwise never update to update and keep their machine secure, I don’t need handholding and don’t want to constantly be guided into sharing analytics or trying edge.
@@Drazil100 For me there was always something broken after updates so at some point I just stopped doing them.
Never had issues with security. You just have to be responsible, not visit scam websites and don't click any links that are obviously gonna fuck you over.
@@Cyan37 And manually patch driver vulnerabilities. Oh wait. You weren't aware of those types, were you?
@@OzixiThrill Condescending right out of the box eh?
Windows 10 was launched in July 2015. It's unthinkable for a Linux user to maintain the basis of a system for 10 years. Most of us switch between long-support versions every 2 years.
It's an absolute disservice not to mention the privacy concerns, the ever increasing amount of spying the OS does, and the ever diminishing amount of agency the user has over their own hardware with Windows 11. THIS is a big part of the reason people don't want to switch to 11. Not to mention being filled to the brim with ads, with every other update forcing even more ads.
100%. Its so glaringly absent it makes one wonder if they dont want to piss off some income stream over it...
I don't think most PC users know or even care about privacy/agency concerns. normies mostly care about having a system that works, and Win10 does that just fine
@@NotGovernor put your tinfoil hat away and give the koolaid a break.. Windows 10 is JUST as bad as Windows 11 in regards to privacy. If your issue with upgrading is due to privacy concerns, then you better be running an open sourced linux distro otherwise you're fooling yourself.
It's been beyond demoralizing. You spend all this time choosing the right components, building, replacing parts, tweaking and trimming the OS, dialing in your settings... only for Microsoft to take a massive dump all over it.
I'm ready to tap out. Getting ready to go offline on my main PC, and use an Android device for anything sensitive... if it comes to it. Really sucks, but modern games just aren't worth the fight anymore.
The whole taking screenshots of activity monitoring "feature" they added recently (albeit limited devices) was enough to convince me that instead of upgrading to Windows 11, I'll be seriously looking at Linux. I'm a gamer/developer, so I have been reluctant to make the switch.
I've switched to Linux, had no choice since MS removed features that I need from the taskbar. I tried Windows 11 and hated it.
Speaking of updates, they cannot even deliver the right "intel HD audio" crap right, it even breaks the "non Intel HD audio" drivers ....
I feel like the only reason windows 11 is at 30% is because it’s usually pre installed on new computers so the majority of people don’t “downgrade” to windows 10 and just stay with 11
Yep, I wish I knew beforehand. Can't change it now...
@@Smol_PC You can still create a win 10 bootable usb and reinstall win 10.
@laxminarayananks1520 even if I never had Win 10? What about everything on my computer? Would everything be saved?
@@Smol_PC transfer your personal files to an external drive.
@@Smol_PC yep you can just downgrade to 10. Your license is still valid. Your files would be erased tho so i would find a way to backup what you can (just upload things to mega and google drive if you need more space create more accounts) and if you have any usbs or external storage devices use those. However dont put anything on the usb you use for installing windows 10 since it erases everything off of it when creating the installation media.
The most ironic part is that if Microsoft didn't stop supporting Windows 7, it'll probably be more popular than Windows 10. Microsoft made a big downturn in the last fifteen years or so and Windows 11 shows it better than anything else.
you must be old...why not try retirement home ? You may find Windows 7 there with XP too
@@prakashm1468 You probably think you are funny or something, but the truth is, Win XP was the first truly stable OS that could support a wide variety of tasks pretty smoothly. You can have work of any flavor that required a computer and be able to do it without trouble on that OS.
Win 7 was the powerhouse, though. It had innovative design from Vista combined with the robust programming of XP, making that OS truly capable, with support of apps from the oldest 8-bit to the new 64-bit and all the related libraries and frameworks in place. It could literally do anything you wanted with it.
Win 10 decided it was to be "light", though, probably following the "mobile" focus Win 8 had, so Microsoft cut off the majority of what made Win 7 so diverse and friendly. It would only run things released in the recent years and would have to get backports for anything older. Ironically, those backports would utilize the unwieldy Windows Update system that exists to this day, which did not solve the problem with Win 10, only made it worse. The core system files would be replaced with placeholders and spread chaotically around the hard drive, spreading security thin and making that system particularly vulnerable to attacks against isolated files.
And now we have Win 10 rebranded as Win 11, and locked out of most hardware, too, in the name of "security" - which as mentioned above is a self-made problem with the entire structure of Win 10. Not that TPM is even remotely capable of solving that self-made problem anyway.
I find it incredibly ironic that if Microsoft decided to continue WIn 7, they would have never lost users who fled to Mac or Linux, increasing their profits. In their pursuit of short-term sales of a new "lean" OS, they tanked their long-term gain from faithful customers.
@@prakashm1468Windows 7 isn't even that old.
I'm 24 and still remember using XP.
@@prakashm1468No need to be so rude here.
windows 7 with a win2k user interface was the last usuable windows. After that all the crap extra unwanted software and privacy breaking came in.
I don’t feel like throwing out software I paid for to buy a bunch of subscriptions I don’t like.
Microsoft is a company that tries really hard everyday to throw out of the window all Windows history and succesful features for the sake of the "new".
Reasons to ignore Windows 11?
- TPM 2.0
- even more ads in the Start Menu
- even more news in the Start Menu
- even more cloud hrny integration
- even more telemetry
- searching for programs or files is a forced Bing search
- widgets suddenly showing on the lock screen
- unable to manage printers properly
- THE NEED TO HAVE A MS ACCOUNT TO INSTALL IT
oh... and rightclick W F no longer works to create a new folder
never heard of right click W F.
I use Total Commander since I was a kid...
the other stuff you listed is pretty shitty though. microsoft is becoming the worst bloatware
Yeah, it takes a hell of a lot of effort to remove a majority of those problems, I was stuck with windows 11 when buying a new laptop and it took me upwards of 3 days of work to disable so much of the extra garbage. Not to mention you have to do registry edits to fix that right click thing
>not encrypting your files
TPM is just fine and if your PC isn't ancient you should already have it. most of the rest of that you can turn off.
rmb + f works on Linux mint just putting that out there
What's wrong with TPM 2.0? Or are you saying you wish it wasn't required? Though I believe all or most laptops made over the past 5 years has it.
The largest reason I will never switch is the pop up ad to learn more about windows 11 after a security update followed by "your pc is not eligible for windows 11" why is my 2000 dollar pc not eligible for windows 11 and why am I getting ads for it on a device that can't install it?
they want you to buy another device
Have you ever updated your motherboard's BIOS?
That was the reason why my PC was unsuitable, I still didn't install win11.
change your boot drive from MBR to GPT and update your bios.
Check UEFI settings is TPM is on. In some cases it defaults to “off”, which prevents 11 inatalling
@@KonevToo bad Microsoft never writes anywhere in PC Health Check that they’ve have a built in tool to do that without deleting your boot drive.
Windows 11 is like trying to build a two store house but you just add some planks of wood over the existing 1 floor structure and call it a day. Next you try to convince everyone else it's much better than before.
How is 30% of all PC's 'no one'?
Honestly the reason is because it came out too quick after Windows 10. 3 years ago I was still running Windows 8, and I only swapped to 10 when I got a new PC. I'll be on Windows 10 until it dies and I need a new PC, which will then have the current OS. I feel like that's how most people go about it since there is very little incentive for non-techies to upgrade ever.
I was hyped when they anounced that windows 11 will be able to run (emulated) Android apps, but sadly they stopped working the project when management realized they couldn't make much profit of an android app store on a windows PC :(
Same
It was the only feature of Windows 11 that had my interest, and they removed it. Well job good done.
Oh man, really? Well, their loss. Already used to having VM's run Android apps and it seems that won't change when I have to switch OS'
It's probably because Google Play Games makes that feature useless
@@SparkingSparks GAMES, not all apps
I've disabled my TPM chip so that it quits bugging me about Win 11. Change for change's sake is beyond stupid.
Me too. Great minds think alike.
Did the same few months ago.
Same
I did that but it still bugged me anyway, even going as far as to automatically download it without my consent. I had to edit group policy to completely stop it.
i dont know why its not bugging me about windows 11 i use windows 10 it run pretty smooth but my coumputer is a surface go
The fact that Windows 11 isn't much different from Windows 10 from a GUI perspective is a definite plus. I was upgraded to 11 and I expected to reconfigure a new machine. No such hassle. It was painless continuation of work.
It's trying to push a bunch of garbage features/background programs that nobody's asking for, and in some cases, is precisely what people are AVOIDING ON PURPOSE
hey commentors, - all those of you complaining that W11 is slow and clunky, - it takes TIME to send all that telemetry to the dozens of servers that you are connected to.....
Yet if it was just slow thats alright but the os is unstable and as someone who works in commercial it/av new windows based teams solutions aren’t reliable and they have a plenty of “growing pains” that probably wont go away
You're less wrong than you think. Most of the lag comes down to live searching online, which for some reason isn't a config app toggle, but can still be disabled in the registry for fast and responsive start menuing. Weirdly the PowerToys Mac-style omnisearch bar doesn't lag quite as badly, don't ask me why.
@TheManiac95 major pain in my ass when a brand new system decides to gives me a black screen for a day or 2 because the ai decided to say nope. thats fun explaining that one to consumers who just bought a brand new sys worth round 100k. Dont get me wrong love new innovations and technologies but is this really the direction we want to go in, slap ai on something it sells sure but does it make for a better product in the long term.
it's not just slow and clunky, it's also full of bugs
Lol, I didn't see that swerve coming. Well done.
My reason not to switch to Windows 11 is that it breaks with my habit. The context menu is useless, the taskbar is useless, the start menu is useless, the settings are getting more and more complicated and useless. So why change?
Yeah, it feels start menu is downgraded in every possible way for some reason. Task bar is almost tolerable in latest builds though (if you don't need to move to left/top of course)
yeah win 7 to win 10 already made it many more clicks to do the same thing, win 11 continues that tradition, I have zero interest in it and have TPM disabled for obvious reasons.
I ordered a new laptop from HP and because of the shortages back in 2021, it was delayed for months (did not realize that when I ordered it). A week before it shipped, I get an email saying, "We've upgraded you to windows 11 for free." It was not an upgrade. I almost downgraded before I found a bit of software that restored windows 10 context menus and taskbar.
Windows 11 was a great chance to upgrade my gaming machine to Linux Mint.
Lack of backwards compatibility with older hardware was obviously a big issue, people don't buy new computers as often as they did in the past. The beauty of Windows 10 was it would pretty much run on anything.
I switched back to Windows 10. Everything in Windows 11 is behind an extra menu and its super frustrating. I used Windows 11 for almost two years, but i just couldn't handle it anymore so I went back to an OS I actually enjoyed using
when I first upgraded to 11 the right-click menu change from 10 was an immediate annoyance, and pushing another button to see more options brings back the old menu.
since this old menu was still there I figured that there was another way around it, and after a short search found command I could run to remove the new bloat.
I was also able to find a solution to the automatic ms-Edge search, from the search menu (if i wanted to find something online I'd already be typing in a browser).
Same, and it also just ran worse.
@@JacobSmith-ts2gq that happened in 10 too, pardon me if im wrong
I've been considering this too.
I switched to linux 2 months ago because I didn't want to switch to 11. Def some issues when you are using an nvidia gpu, but most of those issues got fixed by the latest driver update 555.
After using Windows 11 for more than 1 yr, I reverted to Windows 10 a month ago. I felt Home.❤
why though?
@@seepranavg 11 was using more memory, became heavy & less responsive and also due to upcoming recall feature.
I went to 10 after using 11. Stayed installed for 3 days and went back to 11. Had way too many issues with graphics drivers uninstalling by themselves and pc not waking up from sleep
I bought a new laptop with 11, so tried it for half a year until I gave up because of all the bugs, so I installed 10 again.
@@NineS5 what lol. gpu drivers uninstalling ?
I just want to go back to 7. That was the last good Windows OS
I was gonna install Windows 11 on my friends Computer. But it kept asking for his email so we said "f it" and installed Windows 10 instead. There is literally no reason to use your account to log in to windows.
If I could get security updates for Windows 7 I never would have "upgraded" to 10.
Now I put up with Linux instead.
There are paid versions of updates for 7 and there will be for 10...
There are literally dozens of people like you.
@@pieterrossouw8596 erhm...millions .
No you can, just update the update thingy, Windows 64-bit is Windows 64-bit, so most of the security updates for Windows10/11 are functional on Windows7.
The last update I received was 8 days ago
if I put a link it will probably be deleted, but you just have to type in Google "update Windows 7 update agent" and it's among the first results on the "learn Microsoft" website.
I would have never upgraded from 7 to 10 if a ton of nice software wasn't dropping the compatibility with 7.
TPM requirement is an actual blessing. I disabled in BIOS when reports of forced upgrades began to come out. And Microsoft wonders why it has a trust problem.
YE microsoft and other tech companies have been working very hard to blur the line between products and services. I paid for win10, its a product, and only I get to decide how it is used on my hardware.
No. They know. They just don't care.
I did the same. Disabled my TPM to avoid auto updates.
Good, I don't have to make this comment and can just updoot yours. With Win10 EOL nearing, I have Manjaro KDE on several of my devices and dual boot it on my main getting ready to fully transition. Win11 is so awful for so many reasons that it makes me nostalgic for Windows ME, a truly mind blowing accomplishment.
Windows operating systems have been growing increasingly intrusive. I keep getting the blue screen of pushiness on Windows 10 every few days that keeps telling me "Let's Finish setting up your computer." My computer is perfectly set-up and no, I don't want any additional paid services or social media accounts and linkings. It's a clear and blatant attempt to pump me for money and personal information. But the only options that exist are basically sign up for everything they push on me or "Remind me in 3 days". How about "remind me never"?? Or maybe a "Keep reminding me and I'll switch to Linux"? If they add those options to Windows 11, I might switch to it. Otherwise, I think I'll be switching to Linux once windows 10 loses support.
that 30% adoption rate was forced onto new laptop buyers.
Each time a corporation does aynthing for "security" it's not your security.
My boss is a contract engineer for NASA. He bought a brand new Alienware laptop to be able to get work done. He opened it up, saw Windows 11 on it, and squinted in disgust.
I went to grab a coffee in the breakroom. When I returned to his office, he was already installing Windows 10 on it.
But the ui of windows 10 is just... terrible
@@Greedy-Allay Dunno. I like it far better than Windows 11's. As for the start menu, I use Startisback which gives it the same layout and behavior as Windows 7's start menu.
based and windows 10 pilled
@@Greedy-Allay ui windows 11 looks awful that taskbar looks like it was crafted by apple or some bs
@@Greedy-Allay it's not as good as 7 but better than 11 or 8
my new work laptop was installed with Windows 10 a couple of months ago. The IT guy who imaged it said "don't worry, it'll be Windows 10, because we're not idiots".
Then, a couple of weeks ago, the company forced Windows 11 upgrades on every compatible system. Now... I'm stuck with it.
Personally, I have been using 11 as soon as they released the Beta. I had a driver issue in the very beginning. Once that was corrected it has been the BEST OS I have used on a regular basis.
The Linux community thanks Microsoft for the requirements of Windows 11.
😆😆😆
thank Microsoft, Intel, Google and China for Linux
Hey Linux community, I'm finally coming over once 10 is done. Mint is much too easy and nice now for me to struggle and debase myself for microsoft any more.
I'll thank the Linux community when they have proper audio recording software/drivers. I can use Linux, first time I installed SuSE (it was still free, before openSuSE) I was like 15, I definitely can and usually do install it now... But I don't want to switch OS every single time I want to do something, so I'm sticking with Windows and using the terminal stuff to tune it up instead of using the terminal stuff for Linux. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to run a system with Plasma DE, I don't think ANYTHING looks better than that. However, while you can work most stuff on Linux these days, there are some specifics I use, like audio, as I said, and negative scanning that just don't run well. And games are getting there, but it's gonna be a while 'til Proton can handle it all. I do wish to say one day I'm joining the Linux community... So I do hope you guys start making drivers for these specific stuff. Sure, it's open source, I could learn to make the drivers myself... But I most definitely won't. Some things are worth the fiddling around... And some others I just wanna plug, play (the guitar or whatever I'm playing, and yes) and hit record. Half the features of my working stuff don't work on Linux. Maybe in 10 years they will.
@@nevermind4328 No one cares dude, seriously
Microsoft said that win10 would be the last, then made win11 and made it compatible with PCs with hardware bought in the last 5 years. No wonder the world hasn't adapted yet. Most people, at least outside the US keep their PCs for more than 5 years.
They never said that it would be the last. Why do people keep on spouting this rubbish, which can easily he disproved with a quick search? Some employee said it, and was referring to a subscription model, and it was never policy
@user-lx5do4zc6n actually, no. when jerry nixon (a *microsoft developer*) said that windows 10 would be the last version of windows, microsoft ended up standing by what he said, or atleast did not say that he was wrong. in a statement to network world, official microsoft spokesperson said this,
"Recent comments at Ignite about Windows 10 are reflective of the way Windows will be delivered as a service bringing new innovations and updates in an ongoing manner, with continuous value for our consumer and business customers. We aren’t speaking to future branding at this time, but customers can be confident Windows 10 will remain up-to-date and power a variety of devices from PCs to phones to Surface Hub to HoloLens and Xbox. We look forward to a long future of Windows innovations.”
they did not specify that it was one developer, or even disagree. they even said that theyd keep it up to date! you'd think they'd correct it or tag that as a misunderstanding, but nope!
you can even go on forums and see the question of windows 10 being the last software and being answered by actual people who work at microsoft saying that its the last version.
when the rumors came out about windows 11, people genuinely believed that it was a hoax. you can even go onto the forums and see that everyone thought windows 10 was the last version. id link stuff but my comment would get removed, so youre gonna have to dig for yourself unfortunately.
my last pc before upgrade was 12 years ago and that was using from window 7 to 10
@@user-lx5do4zc6n Exactly that. Even I do remember they originally meant you only have to "buy windows once" since win 10.
How can these people to believe that if it's even possible for win 10 to be the last windows? If it's really the case it will only be a naming issue anyway, as with constant updates the system will become less recognizable compared to the first version, eventually.
@@tapist3482 they didn't even mean that, it was never intended to be anything like that, there was always planned and there will be more versions of Windows to come. It would be impossible to just have 1 version and constantly update it, at some point, the very foundations of the system become obsolete or these parts need so much constant fixing, that it is no longer cost effective
People just remember that Microsoft promised to make Windows 10 the latest OS with endless updates. That's the reason why they don't update :D
THEY BELIEVE
The best feature in windows 11 is the addition of multiple workspaces (like Linux). It is awesome for productivity. The downside is the patchworked user interface, increased resource consumption, failed search functionality, continually broken file explorer, forced updates for system, copilot, edge, and the obvious privacy violations, user terms and conditions, lack or user support (by design), and microsoft's general policies that violate basic user rights. If you're a windows 11 user, basically microsoft is using you as a guiniea pig to beta test their software for free and collect your user data, and there's no way to opt-out. They can force an update that breaks your system and there's no way to revert.
Windows 11 is filled with ads and boomer apps. Like why would I want news on my task bar?
Why would you not want news on your taskbar?
the ads are what stops me, also no real reason.
What? I've been using 11 for years and haven't seen a single ad or boomer app
I used windows 11 and get no adds or had any bloatware installed when i bought the laptop I use
@@Artemis-v8iwell there are already news on the phone.
I'm giving strong considerations into switching to Linux.
I’m trying now. If you just want to use a browser it is great. Otherwise be ready to do a lot of sleuthing online and typing obscure commands into the terminal. Also, if you sync your iPhone with your computer don’t bother. I haven’t found a reasonable way to do it yet.
Same, I'd rather deal with the issues with Linux over going to Windows 11.
If you have a spare ssd you can already try dualbooting to get used to it.
Do it, if you want a Windows like experience out of the box go with Linux Mint
@@Fredjikrang I mostly use my PC for gaming. I'm worried thst it won't be able to run games like FFXIV and BG3
My main reasons for not getting Windows 11 are growing privacy concerns, the right-click menu, generally terrible UI, and the fact that they got rid of all the old settings menus from the XP era (which were the only usable ones imho).
11 has bugs in the UI. For example the Keyboard. You can change the default keyboard layout, it restores it to the one installed. Extra tasks to do on a daily basis that weren't required in 10. Linux and iOS are looking more attractive.
The main problem with Windows 11 (not spoken about in the video at all) is the privacy concerns. There are so many dark patterns, malicious compliance and everything is opt out (with the risk of silently turning back on after every update), that there is no way in hell I'm going to waste a lot of time (almost a part-time job) just researching and keeping up with all the small details to avoid my own computer screwing me over. Software in general (the OS included) should be a useful tool to help me, not something I should be constantly battling against. Those issues also plague Windows 10 to some degree, to the point that I'm really thinking about migrating to a Linux distro for production tasks and leaving a Windows partition for gaming (for those still incompatible with Linux).
Exactly! All telemetry options are enabled by default and it takes so much effort to disable them. I can feel that they have purposefully hidden them in a difficult to find place. And they keep getting more and more hidden over time. And they get re-enabled on their own after disabling.
Craftsmen don't get better at their craft because their get used to new tools every month. They master their craft because of repeated use of the tools they know. Sure, a new tool here and there for a special applcation is fine, but this update-craze with no real reason is just dumb.
I really like your wording here: Software should be a useful tool to help me, not something I should be constantly battling against.
While that is certainly better than just using Windows 11, wouldn't Windows 11 still be able to access your linux files from the other partition? If we assume, that Microsoft scans all the data on your device the Linux partition and private files would have to be encrypted.
@@Revan-kq7ih as far as I'm aware (don't quote me on that, since I'm not rly sure), Windows isn't able to natively read ext4 partitions. So you shouldn't even need to encrypt the Linux partitions. However, if it comes to that, encrypting would at least give me the control to make sure a Windows installation wouldn't access data I don't want it to, no matter how many changes come with future updates.
At this point just let me buy a modernized version of Windows 7.
Fun fact, the Windows 11 start menu is nowadays built in React Native. React is the JavaScript library built by Facebook, React Native is built on top of that to allow native applications to be built with React code. This may be a contributing factor to the start menu not performing as well as React Native is, though easy to develop, not particularly well known for it's performance
Windows 11 is probably the closest analog to Vista. A "new" OS built from the ground up to use "modern" development features, where the tech simply wasn't ready to run performance and security critical parts of the basic UI. I love the dotnet ecosystem today, and it's quite fast, but way back in 2007, the tech simply wasn't ready to be used to build core components of the OS. Windows 7 ended up either rolling back to older established technologies, or fixing the critical problems with the new tech, so it was pretty good.
The biggest reason Microsoft is even supporting React native, is that they lost the developer race. Wayyy back when Blamer created the developers developers meme, Microsoft clearly understood that without developers, they had nothing. No one liked using Win32 to build desktop applications, and with the web browser war lost, and Microsoft out of the smartphone race, all the developers stopped caring about Windows desktop applications. Microsoft responded by trying to build newer, better APIs, that enabled similar mobile/browser functionality. But because no one liked the new Windows 8 APIs or the Windows app APIs, no one built apps for them. They missed the mark, and none of the trandy developers wanted to write desktop applications anyways.
Instead, everyone jumped onto the Electron hype train, because they couldn't abandon desktop applications, but they didn't want to develop for desktop. So everyone built all their applications as rebranded web pages running in a copy of Chrome. Microsoft never got traction on any of the OS specific features or new APIs they wanted to push, so they ended up investing a HUGE amount of dev effort into a giant ecosystem that no one used. Honestly, the move to start officially supporting Javascript/html/css for Windows app development is pretty smart, since that's what everyone is already using. Microsoft at least wanted developers to be able to integrate with the basic capabilities of their OS window manager, which Electron didn't originally support.
But rather than try to support a language that forces them to use a language, library, and runtime maintained by their competitors, Facebook and Google, they should have done what they did when Java was the most popular programming language. They should have built their own similar but better version, like they did with C# and the CLR. They've literally already got a huge open source ecosystem with a competent runtime. Why reinvent the wheel? Why try to integrate a technology that's clearly not ready for production? They literally already maintain TypeScript. They could have added a new JS-like language to the CLR, and avoided the insanity of trying to directly integrate into an ecosystem where they can't change the internals to work better with their applications.
I can see this going two different ways. Either the React native stuff keeps receiving feature updates and eventually becomes stable and performant, or Microsoft gives up, undoes most of their work (yet again) and rolls back to the legacy APIs until someone once again tries to invent a new language that's just following some modern hype train. Personally, I can't wait for Windows 12 to abandon the react native garbage, or build a new runtime to transpile into something that runs on the CLR. There's no reason to use a technology that clearly can't support the features you're trying to deliver. Windows 11 will remain an upsetting disaster for as long as it's around, because the technology simply isn't ready to support the features its being asked to run.
@@alexlowe2054 I agree with you.
Another point from desktop developer perspective.
Imagine a developer wants to build a cross platform desktop app. Which Microsoft stack is he supposed to use ?
Winform - Windows only
WPF - Windows only
UWP - Dead
WinUi, Maui?
It seems that even Microsoft is directionless in desktop development landscape.
What's the source on that?
@@abhaynath5833 I generally agree when it comes to third-party applications, but you'd think that when it comes to *their own start menu*, that they can hire a development team that can use native Windows APIs instead of using some slow mess.
These people existed until now, didn't they?
I don't think that the React Native is the reason for slowness. The start menu is a few icons, a few texts, maybe a few lines or simple graphics, I don't remember the menu of Win11, but that's all. It would be fast in any programming language. I think that the real reason for slowness is that it uses a Copilot AI (that most people don't even want).
Absolutely irresponsible to release a video like this without mentioning more than reasonable privacy concerns and Microsoft's intention to use the OS as an advertisement platform.
Theres some things i dislike about windows 11 such as the right click context menu, but the centered task bar i absolutely love.