Unknown Details About The Luo Of Kenya- Stephen Ombanyo Osieyo
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CT is a perfect example of who a Luo is. Always happy and in a good mood regardless of the circumstances.
Iyude😂
Those are good insight.It's a high time the government should teach proper history in our school system unfortunately the only history we were taught is colonialism and slavery.I didn't know the luo had a rich history.
Proud when we write our own histories and dialogue on the same. Thank you Mr. Ombayo
True, we must own our history
It’s always nice when our African culture is documented..very interesting
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Hongera Jamhuri ya Kenya.
AHSANTE Eric kwa bendera imependeza.
Naipenda Kenya japo ni Mtanzania.
Muwe na amani
Very good conversation, never liked vitimbi but had not thought of it as a cultural attack or profiling ....wueh! Mind blowing
I am over the moon with this... Its BIG KUDOS for your efforts...let us encourage one another to record historical records and facts about our people!
Treasure trove
Proud to be aluopean😊😊
Great piece....sent me looking for more Luo history and it's been epic 👍💯
I find this very educative. First I must find that book, secondly repeat this for others who missed it.
I remember Ombanyo Osieyo,he was my senior in 1974 at the same School,a posh English speaker
Hello Mr. Okoth. It's good reading and interacting with you, the high flyers of Homa Bay High School. God bless you.
North East Congo Luo Alur . Eastern Central Africa Republic and South East Chad Luo-Alur , Luo-Acholi , Luo-Langi . Sudan and Lower Egypt Luo-Shilluk, Luo-Anuak, Luo-Pari, Luo-Thuri, Luo-Balanda, Luo-Jur Chol,Luo-Bar el Ghazal. South West Ethiopia Gambella and Eritrea Luo-Anuak/Anywaa .
The Luo of Cameroon(mostly assimilated by Bantu with fewer speakers found in late 90s)
Excellent piece of information kudos
Thank you Team SituationRoom. This was quite insightful. Must read!
A kikuyu and very impressed
The arrival of the Luo in Bunyoro Kitara was dramatic .The Bachwezi had previously invaded and occupied Bunyoro Kitara and were subdued by the Luo through conquest .The Luo had skilled warriors in their southward movement and are among the few groups in the continent presently spread out in at least 9 territories .The others include the Fulani through their nomadic lifestyle .The Somali in Kenya,Ethiopia,Djibouti,Somalia.The Waswahili in Kenya,Somalia,Tanganyika,Zanzibar,Mozambique,Malagasy/Madagascar,Lamu,Pemba,Pate . Also the Shona and Zulu to some extent . Historically the Luo and Zulu had skilled warriors that led their settlements .
The Luo-Babito assumed Kingship and rulership of Bunyoro Kitara Kingdom after the Bachwezi fled and had almost a 500 year legacy that also provided rulerships for the Baganda .
The Luo-Babito Kingdom is a case study for major history departments on Black/African history including Oxford where Okot P’Bitek Ugandan Luo-Acholi Lawyer and Poet wrote his dissertations on the assimilation of the Langi into Luo .
The Luo initiated the Abakama Kings adopting local bantu dialects to effect their rulership .This lasted 18 generations .
After the death of Omukama Tito Owinyi in 1971 the Bunyoro Kitara Kingdom as ruled by the Luo ended following its 1967 dissolution by the Uganda government .
The Luo Babito Kingdom that controlled Bunyoro Kitara for almost 5 centuries was led by the Luo-Jo Bito clan .
The Jo-Bito come from the Bito tree.This group had moved from Bukidi in Northern Uganda originally occupying Tekidi in Agora mountains .
The success of the Luo-Babito Kingdom was replicated in Buganda and US President Roosevelt would soon visit in 1909 and was stunned at the level of organization that he found in Buganda taking the same principles to influence US democracy .
True virtually all the ruling clans among the Banyoro-Kitara groups of western Uganda are Luo. To this day the Luhya of the lower nzoia river basin do call the Luo 'Abanyolo' on account of the two groups having first interacted in Bunyoro kingdom. Indeed the Luhya were the first to arrive and settle in Western Kenya having got there via north of lake Victoria. The Luo later followed using the southern route.
kumbe we are many from HB
I didn't know he is from my home Katolo, I must look for CT next time am home. So proud of him.
Proudly Luo
Great topic, am a Nyaluo from Ugenya Kager Kanyango clan growing up I was told by my parents that I can't marry from my clan that one stuck with me, however I have many questions that I'd like to ask , I hope by reading this book I might get some clues, Anyways thank you for writing this book. 🙏🏾
Am a Jaluo from Nyakach (Janyakach).
@@djlux1280 Kenya Airforce Fredrick Collins Omondi Oyoo(best trained Airforce in post Independence Kenya graduating top of his class) who plotted a coup against Jomo Kenyatta in 1971 after the death of Tom Mboya in 1969 was from NYAKACH .
VP Oginga Odinga was placed on house arrest in 1971 .
Also Kenya Airforce Hezekiah Ochuka who staged a coup against Daniel Moi in 1982 was from NYAKACH . VP Oginga Odinga was placed under house arrest in 1982 .
@@djlux1280 Under Jomo Kenyatta Major General Dedan Gichuru was rapidly promoted despite graduating second to last in the same class as Fredrick Collins Omondi Oyoo in UK and Israel where Airforce from several countries were trained .
After 1971 and 1982 coup recruits from Nyakach faced difficulties in joining the Airforce,a preferred destination for Luo groups in the formations in Kenya,Uganda and Sudan .
In Uganda under Milton Obote the Army Chief of staff was Gen David Oyite Ojok(Luo-Langi) and the Airforce Commander was Major Alfred Otto .
We are of the same subclan kager kanyango 😂😂😂
Oh my you're my sister, I'm Also a nya Kager k'Anyango from Madungu!😅
Beautiful conversation today. ❤❤
CT has dressed up like a real jaduong'
Excellent job, Ombanyo 👏👏👏
...ehh....seems you missed the massage......
..""djibouti has a population of 1m...""...
...why was eritrea..formed.....??...
..connect the dots....
I need this book like yesterday...thank you guys for showing us the light to such brilliant writers...
Where are you based? I can send details
Excellent conversation...enjoyed every second...kudos all round
Wonderful discussion. We did this fascinating history in high school, taugh
...taught by Mrs Rose T. Ayot, who gave us a lifelong curiosity about and love for African history.
We must know our heritage as a people, to survive in the modern world. Hope to buy the book.
So profound. Loved the conversation. I have learned a lot
This is quite an informative conversation. I wish it was longer.
I am going to get this book
Thank you for this
Excellent job….is the book available in the international circles- Amazon or Barnes & Noble. I need a copy in the US
Great work, I would like to read the book. Could I get a copy signed by the author?
I live this... In need this book like yesterday
Now I understand why Tom Mboya, son of Marcella, was born a leader. He had the blood of Alego Ka Ruoth, people who have divine ordination to lead. He had juogi from Ramogi. But he, together with Jaramogi, failed Ramogi Ajwang's spirits when they signed our birthright as a people to found and perpetuate the hateful, evil Kenyan state.
Thanks ❤️👌
The Luo of Kenya are an amalgamation of the Luo-Acholi,Luo-Alur,Luo-Padhola,Luo-Jonam of Uganda and other groups in Kenya such as the Suba,Luhya and to some extent Kuria and Kisii .
The first group of Luo to arrive in Kenya the Jok were the Pajok from Luo-Acholi in Uganda,they were followed after 200 years by the Padhola from the Luo-Padhola of Uganda headed by Owiny a skilled warrior and father of Adhola in Kenya they settled in Bunyala after teaming up with the Jok .
Later the Luo-Alur followed after 100 years as the Jok Omollo headed to South Nyanza Kenya .
The Owiny group under Luo-Padhola provided the first King to the Wanga Kingdom in Mumias in a place called God Wanga .The Luhya of Wanga share kinship with the Luo through this amalgamation .
Also the same applies to the Luhya of Bunyala the Abamanyala .
The brother of Owila ,who had participated in the formation of Wanga, was called Nyadundo( a famous Kenyan musician Ohangla uses the same name Tony Nyadundo) .
Nyadundo was the ancestor of the Luhya Tiriki the Abatiriki .
When Wanga and Owila moved to Mumias they provided the 1st King of the Wanga Nabongo .
Owila and son of Wanga Matara would later go to Alego Uyoma forming the Jobayoma of the Luo and they would later settle in Sakwa Bondo .
The Jok Omollo would also move to South Nyanza providing ancestry to Gor Mahia through Ogallo .
Gor Mahia son of Ogada and grandson of Ogallo was a powerful 18th century Luo leader and medicine man with unusual powers who predicted white rule .
Brilliant discussion here
I was told wants a lady marries if she divorces should never step in her parents home or use the gate to get in the compound once she dies she's buried far in the corner of the land
Those are old stories, doesn't happen anymore
What a smart brain
Most Luo clans of Kenya constitutes of Bantu clans origin thru amalgamation & assimilation. For example we have also Luo sub-clans found in some Luhya clans
Writer Wanguhu Ng'ang'a through his anthropological Tome on the people of Kenya confirms the fact that indeed our forbearers were not what we are today. As you rightly put it group dispersals, migration, amalgamation, assimilation... over the centuries make the 'potpurri' of the modern races in Africa.
@@makhulooduori9994Luo, Luhya and Kisii are actually more diluted than the Kikuyu community. While the 3 tribes have kept their cultures, genetically they are extremely intermixed.
Kikuyus too are diluted the few who have taken ancestral dna test especially the light ones they tend to have Arabic,Cushitic n Maasai admixture.....then you begin to ask them what was their migration route
I should have that book, please give the information on where to find the book.
Guys, this is profound.
Where can i get this good book 🎉🎉
I want to know more about my tribe and Clan Sakwa and subclan Kadera🎉🎉
Brian hello stranger!!!! Let me look for you on the other side
@@brendaosieyo4333 🙏👍
How can I get this book and how much does it cost?
Enlightenment ❤
Kanyadans are also from Alego. and in particular from Kakan subclan of Alego.
So we Kanyadians we are told early enough that we can't marry into that clan. Those who are of my generation we would be told that clan was Oloo Aringo's
I am from Kanyibuop, and I thought that Buop was adopted by the Luo leadership and given a wife.
Why is the camera more focused on the host more than the guest
🎶"Joka Ruoth wan duto wankendwa" 🎶 siege mentality?
Kenya Luo proper(Kenya Nationalist Tom Mboya, VP Oginga Odinga ,OBAMA ,LUPITA NYONGO ),Luo-Suba .Tanzania Luo proper, Luo-Suba,Luo-Wasweta,Luo-Mukisero .
Is there such concrete researched history about Abaluhya?
I am watching from Germany. I ask you Kindly to inform me how to get the book. I am a medic. Night running is global.
are there night runners in Germany?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nightrunning and sleepwalking are not the same. Nightrunning is a super-conscious effort which is mischievious, sleepwalking is absent-minded and innocent.
How do you know
Thank you sir
Since my childhood night running has been an intriguing phenomenon. Why would darkness re-orient a well respected school Master in the community and turn him into a running zombie knocking neighbors doors and windows for unexplained reasons?
Night running is a sport. No need for a gym. Never hear anyone complain about joggers.
Where can I get the book and how much Iam in Migori
Heathy history about the Luo, the only strange part of it is, a Luo girl settling with her husband in their community because she refused to go to the man’s home.Culturally a Luo woman can’t build a “simba “ , in their homes
I want the book
Luos are the protagonist of Kenya
Great job, we Africans we've to write about our histories and culture even to teach in schools that our generation to come will learn about their history we don't av to learn about others history like western supremacy who want to destroy ours
In KENYA in 1921 the Young Kavirondo Association was formed with initial members drawn from Central Kavirondo including Kisumu and Busia .
The Luo(OBAMA,LUPITA NYONGO and WOMAN KING ACTRESS SHEILA ATIM’s Peoples) were considered the Nilotic Kavirondo while the AbaLuhya,AbaKuria AbaGusii etc were considered the Bantu Kavirondo .
The socio-politically conscious founder Members of Young Kavirondo Association were members of the first class that had joined Maseno school in 1907 under JJ Willis .
The Association were part of anti-colonial movements in Kenya that was later promoted by Luo-Union in Nairobi,Mombasa,Nakuru etc and Luo Thrift across East Africa under Nationalists Oginga Odinga and Tom Mboya of Kenya and Uganda's First president Milton Obote(Luo-Langi) .
The founders of Young Kavirondo Association were trainee teachers in Maseno in 1921 . They included Jonathan Okwirri of Uyoma as Chairman .
Simeon Nyende of Gem was treasurer . Benjamin Owuor of Seme was secretary .
They opposed Kenya's colonization, resisted the Kipande ID system, opposed increases in the hut tax and pushed for the re-introduction of paramount chiefs .
Central Kavirondo later Central Nyanza would become administratively and politically untenable owing to disproportionate Luo dominance over other bantu groups. So pervasive was it that leaders had to communicate in dholuo and the Luo dominated administrative roles. Thanks to the likes of the late James Osogo and Habenga Okondo (among many others) that fought and yanked Busia back to North Nyanza notwithstanding badly delineated boundaries that left behind many luhya clans all the way from Maseno, Gem, Bukholo, Ugenya and Usonga!
wow the last comment on cultural attack........perfected by successive regimes.
Beyond the Young Kavirondo Association the Luo would later organize anti-colonial movements under Luo-Union and Luo Thrift and join forces with Kenya Nationalists movements under Tom Mboya, Jomo, Kenyatta, Oginga Odinga, Harry Thuku, Paul Ngei, Achieng Oneko, Argwings Kodhek and others .
Jomo Kenyatta had previously organized under the Kikuyu Central Association(KCA) also established in 1921 like the Young Kavirondo Association(YKA) .
YKA actively mobilized the Kavirondo Luo and Kavirondo Abaluhya into a meeting in Nyahera on July 8 1922 with Governor Sir Edward Northey .
At least 10,000 people were in Attendance from the greater western region .
Kenya's independence constitution was partly written by first US Black Chief Justice Thurgood Marshall who was friends with Kenya Nationalists Jomo Kenyatta, Oginga Odinga and Tom Mboya .
Tom Mboya was a Keynote speaker at the March in Washington in 1963 and close friends of Dr. Martin Luther King, Harry Belafonte ,Andrew Young, Sidney Poitier, Ralph Abernathy and other black civil rights leaders .
They set up resources to help educate Black Kenyans denied higher education opportunities by white before Independence hence Obama father to Harvard .
After Harvard where he had studied Phd Economics, Obama father worked with Nationalist Tom Mboya who was Minister Of Economic Planning and was responsible for writing Kenya's post independence Economic framework . Obama wrote about his father ,Tom Mboya and their Luo peoples .
As a guest of US Civil rights Organizer , Charles Cobb Jr. Kenya's Independence VP Oginga Odinga was once arrested in Atlanta while in Atlanta protesting against Black discrimination together with 17 other SNCC students . This was an embarrassment for the relations between US and Kenya after the state realized that they had locked up Kenya VP .
He refused to leave jail until all the black students were released .
His wishes were granted .
Thurgood Marshall was disappointed at the post independence polarization between Nationalists leaders President Jomo Kenyatta and VP Oginga Odinga and assassination of Nationalist Tom Mboya in 1960s .
These were his close friends .
US civil rights leader Dr Martin Luther King was lost his life in 1968 at age 39 and his close friend Kenya independence Nationalists Tom Mboya was lost his life in 1969 at the age of 38 .
Both Tom Mboya and Dr Martin Luther King had 4 kids each all below age 13 .
Where can I get the book based in Kisumu
Uganda Luo-Langi(President Milton Obote, Gen David Oyite Ojok, Gen Smith Acak Opon, zanzibar liberator John Okello , united Tanganyika+Zanzibar=Tanzania), Luo-Acholi(Presidents Gen Tito Okello and Army Commander Gen Bazillio Olara Okello,Airforce Director,Maj Alfred Otto,Airforce pilots Cpt Harry Oluoch,Cpt Eric Odwar etc;
LRA rebels against Yoweri Museveni JOSEPH KONY , Alice Auma Lakwena ,Dominic Ongwen, Vincent Otti, Okot Odhiambo,Raska Lukwiya,Nixman Opuk Oryanga,Ceaser Achellum,Bunia Ocan,Actress SHEILA ATIM-"WOMAN KING"),Luo-Padhola, Luo Alur, Luo-Kumam, Luo-Jonam,Luo-babito,Luo-jopaluo of Uganda .
These ppl brought a lot of doom on Ugandans so pliz,not too loud.🫢🤫🫣
@@mwendapoleeehmmnn. Thank you
@@mwendapoleee Between 1971 and 1979 Mwanza on Lake Victoria in Tanganyika and Kisumu on L. Victoria in Kenya played host to Uganda exiles against Idi Amin led by Gen Tito Okello, Gen David Oyite Ojok and Gen Bazillion Olara Okello .
@@mwendapoleee In Mwanza the soldiers were given land by Tanzania President Julius Nyerere and transformed a once sleepy town into a bustling farming and trade center in the area they occupied .
The exiles farmed Tobacco and Millet and sold to the locals . And on exit left their land and homes to the locals . Gen Bazillio Olara Okello's house still stands . Uganda exiles won the hearts of the locals with their hard work in the area .
@@mwendapoleee At least 800 Uganda Luo-Langi and Luo-Acholi soldiers died in the rebellion against Idi Amin . At least 300 died in Lake Victoria when their boat from Mwanza and Kisumu towards Entebbe capsized . The soldiers had been trained in Uganda by Gen Bazillio Olara Okello as an Infrantry instructor at Jinja . Together with Lt Shaban Opolot ,Gen Bazillio Okello had established the 2nd Battalion in Moroto Uganda .
Can somebody give me direct contact of this author?
Night running is not sleepwalking, I have thought it's a mental condition. But again it's involuntary so follows the saying in Dholuo "Oidhi ka juok"
By the second world war WWII the Luo anti-colonial sentiment spread across Kenya and East and Central Africa .
The British imposed further taxes on their colonies seeking to raise resources due to the aftermath of the war .
These actions by the colonial government prompted Young Kavirondo groups opposition to White rule through the clarion call of "Piny Owacho"-the people have spoken .
After WWII in 1945 the Young Kavirondo Association representing the demands of the Luo against the colonial government issued a memorandum to the governor .
This included establishment of an independent legislature for Kavirondo .
Reducing the hut tax . Abolishing forced ID or Kipande that was needed to travel across towns . Removal of the British Crown Colony in Kenya .
Establishment of a government run school in central Kavirondo . Removal of forced labor requirements and labor camps Kavirondo and Kenya .
Increasing wages and providing title deeds .
The memorandum to the Colonial government had previously been drafted in 1922 in Lundha Gem .
The government accepted all the demands in the memorandum by the Luo except two .
They refused to grant independence and end Kenya's status as a crown colony .
They refused to offer title deeds to the local populations .
I'm from Alego, Siaya. Is there a clan called Alego clan?
Alego has many clans; Kakanyo, where I come from occupying areas of Agoro Lieye, there is Kakan clan; areas of Boro ( clan of former Secretary General of KANU and the then minister for Education Hon. Peter Oloo Aringo)
In short, Alego alone has over 30 clans.
30 too many for Alego I think, perhaps counting sub clans also
@@malaptrtrue
Can't be 30..
😂😅Luos don't think twice before throwing hands, tuko na shida.
The Luo are diasporic(at least 20million spread out roughly 9 territories) and settled thousands years with skilled warriors(e.g Owiny and Lwanda Magere) through conquest, intermarriage and assimilation e.g Luo-Suba in Kenya, Tanzania and Luo-Babito/Luo-Langi in Uganda with tendencies for large families thanks to history of polygamy in the past like all other AFRO groups.
The Luo conquered several kingdoms in the past through their southward movement and contributed to banyarwanda tutsi southwest movement to present day Rwanda/Congo, influencing rulership for Luo-babito and Baganda Kingdoms in Uganda .
I hope you have done your homework well, because what you are writing is entirely wrong, and Steven has also ironed out the distinction of real Luo clans from the "adopted" ones. The Luo of Suba are only Luos in speech, they are from the Buganda tribe, the Luos of Gem by large the Luos of Siaya are Luhyas from the clan of Sakwa who was the brother to Wanga and son of Mwanga 3, then there are others who were from Kisii, Kalenjin and even Maasai. This type of assimilation was predominantly in existence in all African communities.
@@kennedyambundo9160 The Lango and Kumam are assimilated Ateker groups into Luo similar to the Suba assimilation into Luo .
These groups are assimilated Linguistically, Culturally, Socially and Anthropologically through intermarriages with the Luo over 500 years hence Luo-Langi, Luo-Kumam, Luo-Suba .
The Lango provided one of the toughest resistance to Luo assimilation unlike the Bantu Suba or Bantu Bunyoro Kitara that was rule by Luo-Babito .
@@kennedyambundo9160 Some present day Lango still claim their original identity while others prefer their present day assimilated Luo identity .
Similar to the Suba and other assimilated Luo groups .
Present day DNA reveal admixtures similar to the Banyarwanda who have predominant Niger-Congo Bantu DNA associated with the Banyarwanda hutu and variations of Nilotic/Nilo-Saharan/Nilo-Cushitic DNA associated with Banyarwanda tutsi .
@@kennedyambundo9160
Assimilation can be contentious like clan differences hence the fallout between Gen Tito Okello and President Milton Obote that led to a coup in 1985 against Milton Obote a Luo-Langi by Gen Tito Okello and Gen Bazillio Olara Okello both Luo-Acholi . Similar differences played out in Rwanda Between the Banyarwanda hutu and the Banyarwanda tutsi .
In Kenya the Luo of Southern Nyanza and Central had differences pitting Nationalist Tom Mboya and VP Oginga Odinga .
These differences also manifested in the breakout of Luo Union to Luo Sports club . After the death of Tom Mboya the regions effectively united .
@@kennedyambundo9160 In South Nyanza the ancestor of the Luo, Rachuonyo also married a Luhya Maragoli named Adwet . Adwet bore Rachuonyo the most number of children,at least 15, out of all his wives .
The Luo of South Nyanza including Karachuonyo have extensive Luhya particulary Maragoli admixture .
There are clans in Homa Bay/Kendu Bay who reference themselves as JoKadwet .
I don't think though that Vitimbi was meant to profile Luos. We'd then say that all comedies are meant to profile a certain people, or to push a certain narrative.
Not all comedies are based on tribes, but racist n prejudiced comedies that were acceptable in the past are frowned upon today for a reason
Was Stephen Osieyo a student at USIU?
Nope
What is the name of the book again?
Luo of Kenya, a chronicled profile of clans by Stephen Osieyo
What can be truest? Siege mentality!
Jo Kanyibuop
Seige mentality😭😭😭
Eti luos come together to throw stones what a silly thing to say
Did you even listen?
Paying attention and listen is very important, you just hear what you want to hear and that's why we have failing in exams 😢😢😢😮
Huyu ni mtu Ako na machungu zake
One of the group of humans that were always looking outside the window while everyone else was busy listening to the teacher.🤣🤣
@@pentracy😂😂😂😂