Exactly my thoughts. These videos always inform, educate AND entertain. That's the 1920s mission statement from Lord Reith about our british BBC. These days they are totally degenerate and they could learn a lot from Mr Pete and those like him.
I love your passion. Dad had an 6” Atlas that was run out. As a Teen I would use Library books a taught myself how to use it. He was a great dad but was away from home most of the week. I ended up showing him how to use it. He was a pilot and aircraft mechanic but flying for a major airline was his job. He loved the smaller aircraft and had basket case project aircraft. No time to work on them. I finally had enough and started working on them. In our later years, through his retirement, we continued to work together on his passion aircraft. That 6” lathe was there and working the whole time.
Thanks Mr. Pete. I'm 71 and I bought my first lathe last year and I have been working to get it in good operating condition. It's a Craftsman 101 12X24 with 1/2" ways made in 1963. You have been a great help to me in so many ways. The 3 and 4 way chucks were going to be the next things I was going to clean. Clint in Virginia.
Please Sir, never stop making these videos - Youre SO good at showing the parts slowly and up close what the "Common Man" would screw up if not for you, and your breeze by the repetitious crap and boring stuff that everyone that is breathing already knows! Hahaha Like when you held the chuck up closer to the camera and rotated the scroll back and forth to show the leading edge of the first thread and how to position it so it engages each jaw! PERFECT!
You continue to inspire we (international) students with the valuable continuing education you provide. I highly doubt there is as comprehensive a course of study of the mechanical arts anywhere else. The enthusiasm you display for the material is unflagging and infectious. Thank you.
Yrs ago, cleaned up an old 8" chuck after taking it apart. The bevel gear side of the scroll was so sharp it cut my finger all to heck when cleaning. The shop across the street put an old machine out back. That 8" chuck layed on the ground. The new owners picked up the machine but left the chuck laying there and it stayed for a couple days. I was in desperate need of a chuck about that size for SB 12x6 #926 lathe and figured the company would throw that chuck in the scrap bin that was close by. With a friend's help we did a naughty thing, he grabbed that chuck and it's on 926 today. You, sir help to remember stories and provide inspiration!
Mr Pete! A tip! That leftover black crud on the jaw that you used the 240 grit on... That's just caked up rust that the converter couldn't penetrate. In my experience I get better results if I scrape it away with a razor and then hit it with the wire brush, first, before using abrasives. (like an old worn out piece of scotch brite) as a last resort. I can usually get it right down to the bare (pitted) metal without too much effort that way. And at least that way it doesn't change the tolerances much, if at all. Cheers! Nice Tool!
Keep the videos coming! Even though there are many hobby/instructional machining channels, Mr. Pete is the only one that I watch with faithful dedication. He is simply my favorite. Today's modern quality chucks are machined in controlled setups to very high tolerance. The face and body OD can be trusted for flatness, sqaureness, center line, etc. They can be indicated on the spindle nose taper using the face and body OD. These smaller older lathes have no provision for this tuning, as they simply thread on and seat on the spindle nose face. Treat these high quality chuck surfaces with care to maintain their integrity. I would be very cautious about hand sanding/polishing these surfaces to not risk compromising these surfaces. This era of lathe and the manufacturing precision control capacity was less capable. As Lysle stated, you can expect some chuck runout. My assembled spindle on a similar lathe has about .001" TIR. Add chuck error, and it gets worse. A lot of care can keep work in the .001 TIR range, but it is a challenge. We don't machine with the chuck body, but we frequently use these surfaces for registration and reference. It behooves taking as much care of these surfaces as we do to the jaw faces. The flat square ways on these machines are a design deficiency. Keeping sanding grit off of them is a good practice. They are light duty machines, but they still are a lot of fun. My little Craftsman is still the feature machine in my shop as I don't have 3 phase functioning capacity yet to operate my industrial class lathes. Every shop upgrade includes more projects. I stalled my 3 phase generator project to do some other simpler tasks. I completed several restorations and installations and made some shop fixtures. Too many shop projects, but it is all fun.
Number 999! WOW! When you first reviewed that chuck you were almost convinced that it was going to the scrap heap. Now, it's back in action and ready tor the staring role in video 1000! As always, another educational and entertaining video from the Shop Teacher of Shop Teachers.
I’m so glad you made this series on the 6” Atlas! I have a Craftsman version that came with both chucks in their original Sears boxes, both made in England.
Your restoration of the Atlas 618 is inspiring. I understand that you intend to sell or give the lathe away to a lucky subscriber. Whoever gets it will be very fortunate. KOKO!
Atlas was my first lathe! I'm self-taught and educated by Mr. Pete. It was a good starter lathe for a dumb farm boy, but it made my interest grow and grow. MAN did it lack quality something significantly! A Southbend sets in its spot now!
I've had my Harrison 13" for a number of years now, though with not a lot of use, so I am motivated now to pull my chucks apart and clean them up. Thanks for the push. Keep up the good work.
Make sure to index mark the back half of the chuck body to front half as your Harrison scroll chucks will most likely be of the 3 bevel gear type. if they are the original chucks that came with the lathe they will probably be Pratt or Pratt Burnerd branded chucks.
thanks for keeping your promise. the youngers are not keeping their promises as they should. my generation had to break some promises, however we were taught to make restitution when a promise must be broken.
Wow, love that word salad. If the promises had not been broken we would not need to be rescued from the promises that were promised. Or something like that. 😊😊
At work we had a lathe that had a chart on it for the cross slide so you could set up and cut scrolls like on the face of the gear plate in the chuck. 50 years of tool making never had to cut a scroll on the lathe. When you showed that it kind of jumped out at me.
I recommend use this lathe to make something interesting. I've used mine for single point threading, and where I need accuracy. I've made locating pins for mounting aircraft engines.The machine held was +/- .0001 inch. I've read several accounts of the chinesium lathes needing "tweaking" to run right. My Craftsman 101.21400 held the above tolerance out of the and onto the bench.
Very interesting Mr. Pete. I watch other machinist channels and see many new lathes but there is noting like the older style in my opinion. As you have said many times, "beautiful castings" that make the machine have some style.
I've rebuilt two 618's. I gave the first to my dad. I remember how Clausing still had some replacement parts at the time because the internet was yet to make the hunting of parts easier. Thanks, Mr Pete!
Thanks for the look see. Hitting it to get the scroll out: You hit the wrong side, the inertia/weight of the scroll wanted to go back inside!!! It did probably loosen it. When whacking something, use its other bit's inertia to your advantage.
I remember trying to figure out how the three jaw chuck worked when I took machine shop. Learned a lot of things, but not that. Had to free up and clean the one for my Unimat. That one was a pain. Keep up the good work.
Nice little project. I am retiring in a couple of months, and getting the shop squared away is a top priority. If I could only get the wife's junk out of the shop, it would be much easier to fit in a small lathe or maybe a table top mill.
Brian from Ma. Believe it or not this was a very, very interesting video on that chuck the manner you used to split that chuck in two pieces was very noteworthy. The scroll adjuster looks like an amputated drill Chuck key it’s a very nice lathe not too crazy about that cabinet style that’s for more professional people lol Thanks
I wrote a comment on a phenominal find of a 618 lathe I bought from a widow recently. Included were two NOS 4" Atlas chucks, a three-jaw scroll chuck, and a four-jaw independant chuck. Both were labeled "Made in England" and further investigation revealed stampings from Pratt-Burnerd. They are very nicely made, although the three-jaw was very stiff with old grease. I re-greased it, and now it is smooth as butter. Here in Canada we got a lot of British-made precision tools before the UK almost completely de-industrialized. I think it is worse there than Canada or the US. A shame, and with the old cold war devisions reappearing perhaps a regrettable decision. Anyway, I am very pleased with my old British lathe chucks. According to my Atlas manual, the maximum size that can pass through the spindle is 17/32". I checked this with some 17/32" ground rod, and it indeed fit. This is useful if one needed to machine something to precisely 0.500", and was probably what the Atlas engineers intended. Congratulations on your imminent one-thousandth tip. I have been a subscriber since before the pandemic, and have always looked forward to your video releases. May there be many more!
Much appreciated! I have a genuine Wescott 3 jaw that cleaned up beautifully for my 618. It must weigh 3 to 4 times as much as the 4 jaw. I think also my theads are 10 and not 8 on mine.
Early lathes, both Atlas and Craftsman branded, have 1" -8 tpi spindle noses, later ones have 1" -10. Also some early lathes have oilite sleeve spindle bearings, whereas later lathes have Timkin roller bearings for the spindle; AFAIK all of the sleeve bearing lathes have the 1"-8 spindle and all of the 1"-10 spindle lathes have Timkin bearings. I think that Mr. Pete has a rare Timkin bearing lathe with the 1"-8 spindle, so the conversion to roller bearings likely happened shortly before the conversion to the 1"-10 spindle thread. Many wood lathes, to this day, use a 1"-8 TPI spindle thread to mount spur chucks, faceplate, sanding discs, etc.
Number 999! This is like watching the odometer on your car turning 100,000 miles. Keep em coming and as always, have a good week.
Exactly my thoughts. These videos always inform, educate AND entertain. That's the 1920s mission statement from Lord Reith about our british BBC. These days they are totally degenerate and they could learn a lot from Mr Pete and those like him.
Thank you Mr. Pete. I've been watching you for a long time and learned alot
We used to have roll over party's when I was younger
I love your passion. Dad had an 6” Atlas that was run out. As a Teen I would use Library books a taught myself how to use it. He was a great dad but was away from home most of the week. I ended up showing him how to use it. He was a pilot and aircraft mechanic but flying for a major airline was his job. He loved the smaller aircraft and had basket case project aircraft. No time to work on them. I finally had enough and started working on them. In our later years, through his retirement, we continued to work together on his passion aircraft. That 6” lathe was there and working the whole time.
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Thanks Mr. Pete.
I'm 71 and I bought my first lathe last year and I have been working to get it in good operating condition.
It's a Craftsman 101 12X24 with 1/2" ways made in 1963.
You have been a great help to me in so many ways.
The 3 and 4 way chucks were going to be the next things I was going to clean.
Clint in Virginia.
Please Sir, never stop making these videos - Youre SO good at showing the parts slowly and up close what the "Common Man" would screw up if not for you, and your breeze by the repetitious crap and boring stuff that everyone that is breathing already knows! Hahaha
Like when you held the chuck up closer to the camera and rotated the scroll back and forth to show the leading edge of the first thread and how to position it so it engages each jaw! PERFECT!
I try to focus on the important stuff and skip the boring parts.
You continue to inspire we (international) students with the valuable continuing education you provide. I highly doubt there is as comprehensive a course of study of the mechanical arts anywhere else. The enthusiasm you display for the material is unflagging and infectious. Thank you.
Thanks so much!
You got it looking really nice. My machine shop teachers were my favorite teachers in high school.
Mine too!
👍👍 I always learn something from your podcasts and long may they continue.
Wow 999, can't wait for 1000!
Yrs ago, cleaned up an old 8" chuck after taking it apart. The bevel gear side of the scroll was so sharp it cut my finger all to heck when cleaning.
The shop across the street put an old machine out back. That 8" chuck layed on the ground. The new owners picked up the machine but left the chuck laying there and it stayed for a couple days. I was in desperate need of a chuck about that size for SB 12x6 #926 lathe and figured the company would throw that chuck in the scrap bin that was close by. With a friend's help we did a naughty thing, he grabbed that chuck and it's on 926 today.
You, sir help to remember stories and provide inspiration!
That's a great story!
Your endurance is amazing, Mr. Pete!
My get up and go has got up and went
This series has helped me immensely in my resto of a Craftsman 101.07301. Thanks Mr.Pete 👍.
Great lesson! Been watching you for many years! Keep up the good work!
Greetings from the oldest town in Texas, Nacogdoches. Another great video.❤
I always learn something watching your videos! Thank you!
👋👍 Looking good. I like to see an older piece of equipment repaired and put back to usable condition. Looking forward to 1000.
Mr Pete! A tip! That leftover black crud on the jaw that you used the 240 grit on... That's just caked up rust that the converter couldn't penetrate. In my experience I get better results if I scrape it away with a razor and then hit it with the wire brush, first, before using abrasives. (like an old worn out piece of scotch brite) as a last resort.
I can usually get it right down to the bare (pitted) metal without too much effort that way.
And at least that way it doesn't change the tolerances much, if at all.
Cheers! Nice Tool!
I appreciate the tip, I'll try that next time!
Congratulations on the restauration. It looks fantastic. The 618 is a very nice machine.
Nice cleanup and refresh, many years left. Thank you for sharing.
Keep the videos coming!
Even though there are many hobby/instructional machining channels, Mr. Pete is the only one that I watch with faithful dedication. He is simply my favorite.
Today's modern quality chucks are machined in controlled setups to very high tolerance. The face and body OD can be trusted for flatness, sqaureness, center line, etc. They can be indicated on the spindle nose taper using the face and body OD. These smaller older lathes have no provision for this tuning, as they simply thread on and seat on the spindle nose face.
Treat these high quality chuck surfaces with care to maintain their integrity. I would be very cautious about hand sanding/polishing these surfaces to not risk compromising these surfaces.
This era of lathe and the manufacturing precision control capacity was less capable. As Lysle stated, you can expect some chuck runout. My assembled spindle on a similar lathe has about .001" TIR. Add chuck error, and it gets worse. A lot of care can keep work in the .001 TIR range, but it is a challenge.
We don't machine with the chuck body, but we frequently use these surfaces for registration and reference. It behooves taking as much care of these surfaces as we do to the jaw faces.
The flat square ways on these machines are a design deficiency. Keeping sanding grit off of them is a good practice. They are light duty machines, but they still are a lot of fun. My little Craftsman is still the feature machine in my shop as I don't have 3 phase functioning capacity yet to operate my industrial class lathes. Every shop upgrade includes more projects. I stalled my 3 phase generator project to do some other simpler tasks. I completed several restorations and installations and made some shop fixtures. Too many shop projects, but it is all fun.
Thanks for the great feedback and tips!
Number 999! WOW! When you first reviewed that chuck you were almost convinced that it was going to the scrap heap. Now, it's back in action and ready tor the staring role in video 1000!
As always, another educational and entertaining video from the Shop Teacher of Shop Teachers.
Nice job salvaging a perfectly serviceable chuck! Looks nice! It's a nice looking little machine.
Looking forward to video number 1000, quite an achievement Mr. Pete. Keep up the great work you are doing, it is highly appreciated.
I’m so glad you made this series on the 6” Atlas! I have a Craftsman version that came with both chucks in their original Sears boxes, both made in England.
That's awesome!
Your restoration of the Atlas 618 is inspiring. I understand that you intend to sell or give the lathe away to a lucky subscriber. Whoever gets it will be very fortunate. KOKO!
Good stuff fram a retired carpenter that picked up the same lathe at a auction...thank you teacher...🖖
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Thanks Mr. Pete for doing the chuck cleanup. I could do it myself now after watching the demonstration.
Atlas was my first lathe! I'm self-taught and educated by Mr. Pete. It was a good starter lathe for a dumb farm boy, but it made my interest grow and grow. MAN did it lack quality something significantly!
A Southbend sets in its spot now!
Another good classroom experience. Thanks, Mr. Pete.
Persistence, consistency, and clarity, just plain legendary, Mr Pete
Thank you very much
Really enjoying this series.
Thanks MrPete.
I like waking up to a new Mr. Pete video. It's like having 1st period shop class.
Tubalcain, Thank you for your great videos.
God bless. You are such a great teacher.
that chuck cleaned up nicely Mr Pete.
Very informative, Mr. Pete! Thanks for sharing! Hand washing a sink of dishes was always a good way to get rid of that ground-in dirt on your hands. 🧐
Lol
Awaiting your milestone. Well done Mr Pete.
Enjoyed both the Atlas and Unimat lathe series. Thanks.
Good video Mr Pete. A chuck my not have to many parts, but it has to be put back together the right way.
This Chuck enjoyed your chuck maintenance video. Keep them coming.
I've had my Harrison 13" for a number of years now, though with not a lot of use, so I am motivated now to pull my chucks apart and clean them up. Thanks for the push. Keep up the good work.
It’s worth the effort!
Make sure to index mark the back half of the chuck body to front half as your Harrison scroll chucks will most likely be of the 3 bevel gear type.
if they are the original chucks that came with the lathe they will probably be Pratt or Pratt Burnerd branded chucks.
That grease container lid came in pretty handy as a chuck holder. Thanks for the tip!
thanks for keeping your promise. the youngers are not keeping their promises as they should. my generation had to break some promises, however we were taught to make restitution when a promise must be broken.
Wow, love that word salad. If the promises had not been broken we would not need to be rescued from the promises that were promised. Or something like that. 😊😊
@@ellieprice363 Gotta admit, that was being raised right. ❤
Nice job on bringing a tool back from the dead!!!!
Watching this video inspired me to do a deep cleaning of my own 618. Thank you, Mr Pete!
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Really enjoying this series Pete! Hope ya do a beginner project with this little Atlas. I have to find the time to work on mine now!!
Thank you, MrPete. Most informative. It's been 5 years since I last cleaned my 3 jaw. Might be time to do it again.
Thanks Mr. Pete always informative. Thanks for the video 999 close to 1000. Have a good day.
Love how the chuck cleaned up!
It's getting harder and harder to find news papers,thanks for the video🤗😎🤗😎
I know what you mean!
Great video as usual MrPete. God bless you sir. 😊
At work we had a lathe that had a chart on it for the cross slide so you could set up and cut scrolls like on the face of the gear plate in the chuck. 50 years of tool making never had to cut a scroll on the lathe. When you showed that it kind of jumped out at me.
I never knew you could make scrolls on a lathe!
@@mrpete222(from Ireland) I guess his lathe had a custom gearbox somewhere about it.
Nice work cleaning up that chuck. It was super rough looking before now it just looks super:)
I recommend use this lathe to make something interesting. I've used mine for single point threading, and where I need accuracy. I've made locating pins for mounting aircraft engines.The machine held was +/- .0001 inch.
I've read several accounts of the chinesium lathes needing "tweaking" to run right. My Craftsman 101.21400 held the above tolerance out of the and onto the bench.
👍👍👍
Very interesting Mr. Pete. I watch other machinist channels and see many new lathes but there is noting like the older style in my opinion. As you have said many times, "beautiful castings" that make the machine have some style.
I agree, the older lathes have a lot of character.
I've rebuilt two 618's. I gave the first to my dad. I remember how Clausing still had some replacement parts at the time because the internet was yet to make the hunting of parts easier.
Thanks, Mr Pete!
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Thanks for the look see. Hitting it to get the scroll out: You hit the wrong side, the inertia/weight of the scroll wanted to go back inside!!!
It did probably loosen it. When whacking something, use its other bit's inertia to your advantage.
I also like the stills that you use as end pieces. 👍🏼
Congrats on the milestone. Always enjoyable on our end too.
Thanks. The chuck on ourLogan is in a similar state and will enjoy the rehab.
I remember trying to figure out how the three jaw chuck worked when I took machine shop. Learned a lot of things, but not that. Had to free up and clean the one for my Unimat. That one was a pain. Keep up the good work.
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Nice job, what some would pass over as rusty junk is operationally as good as new.
Thanks Mr. Pete! Looking forward to tips #1000
Thank you mrpete222.
This video has given me the confidence to service my 3 jaw chuck on my Hercus lathe!
Nice little project. I am retiring in a couple of months, and getting the shop squared away is a top priority. If I could only get the wife's junk out of the shop, it would be much easier to fit in a small lathe or maybe a table top mill.
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Looking great Mr. Pete!
I never tire of seeing a three-jaw chuck being refurbished. Thanks.
Brian from Ma. Believe it or not this was a very, very interesting video on that chuck the manner you used to split that chuck in two pieces was very noteworthy. The scroll adjuster looks like an amputated drill Chuck key it’s a very nice lathe not too crazy about that cabinet style that’s for more professional people lol Thanks
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Nice work Mr pete!! looking like a nice machine so far !!!
A nice start to my Sunday morning, thanks!
Good evening Mr. Pete!
You just reminded me that it's time to clean my 3 jaw chuck. LOL :)
Lyle - Good job. Will be interesting to see number 1,000.
Thanks Mr Pete, I just cleaned my chuck. 999 WOW!
Can't believe the next one is 1k, congrats and thanks for your help in teaching.
Nice Teardown and assembly video.
I wrote a comment on a phenominal find of a 618 lathe I bought from a widow recently. Included were two NOS 4" Atlas chucks, a three-jaw scroll chuck, and a four-jaw independant chuck. Both were labeled "Made in England" and further investigation revealed stampings from Pratt-Burnerd. They are very nicely made, although the three-jaw was very stiff with old grease. I re-greased it, and now it is smooth as butter. Here in Canada we got a lot of British-made precision tools before the UK almost completely de-industrialized. I think it is worse there than Canada or the US. A shame, and with the old cold war devisions reappearing perhaps a regrettable decision. Anyway, I am very pleased with my old British lathe chucks.
According to my Atlas manual, the maximum size that can pass through the spindle is 17/32". I checked this with some 17/32" ground rod, and it indeed fit. This is useful if one needed to machine something to precisely 0.500", and was probably what the Atlas engineers intended.
Congratulations on your imminent one-thousandth tip. I have been a subscriber since before the pandemic, and have always looked forward to your video releases. May there be many more!
Thank you for watching
I did this recently for my 1920s South Bend. The jaws are badly bell mouthed however, I'm not sure the best way to go about cleaning them up.
Much appreciated! I have a genuine Wescott 3 jaw that cleaned up beautifully for my 618. It must weigh 3 to 4 times as much as the 4 jaw. I think also my theads are 10 and not 8 on mine.
The spindle thread on Atlas 618 lathes is 8 TPI.
Early lathes, both Atlas and Craftsman branded, have 1" -8 tpi spindle noses, later ones have 1" -10. Also some early lathes have oilite sleeve spindle bearings, whereas later lathes have Timkin roller bearings for the spindle; AFAIK all of the sleeve bearing lathes have the 1"-8 spindle and all of the 1"-10 spindle lathes have Timkin bearings. I think that Mr. Pete has a rare Timkin bearing lathe with the 1"-8 spindle, so the conversion to roller bearings likely happened shortly before the conversion to the 1"-10 spindle thread. Many wood lathes, to this day, use a 1"-8 TPI spindle thread to mount spur chucks, faceplate, sanding discs, etc.
I've en joyed watching your videos for several years now
I appreciate it!
They sure are a cute little machine.
I can't wait to get around to fixing up my Atlas 6" lathe.
I'm looking for to the next installments of lathe restoration, thanks Mr. Pete
Nice little lathe Mr Pete
🎉 Congratulations on your 1000th video
Good information thanks Mr. Pete
Nice work Mr. Peter. I need to this on Colchester's Prat Burnerd chucks. Regards, Aaron.
Good morning Mr. Pete. Fun video.
Thank you for the informative video.
The Buck chuck has gone up in price now, like everything else, they're now a buck and a half.
Lol
4th period shop class was very informative and eye opening!
Good morning Mr Pete !!
Good video. I’ve watched a few and never have I had an advertisement interrupt.
Thanks! I try to keep the ads to a minimum.
That really turned out nice. I have a few chucks that need that treatment!
Nice work Mr. P.
Looks good Mr. Pete!
Looking forward to the next one!
The Chuck looks good now!
Good review of the type Scroll 3 jaw chuck.
Thanks Mr. Pete.
I have that chuck and it needs serviced. Now I know how to do it! Thanks.
Excellent job! Sir.
Keep up the good work Mr Pete