Man, I work in a USAF machine shop and we get basically nothing but one-offs, and never anything super complicated; the little tips and tricks I get from this channel are just awesome, since I've become basically the "seasoned veteran" despite being mostly self-taught. What I'm saying is that the lessons I learn here are invaluable since I don't work with anyone who could teach them to nearly such a degree.
"" Tips of Tony "" """ Tricks of Tony """ "" Totally oresome Tony "" "" Tricks or Treats" " Turn or Turn " THIS OLD TONY . YES HE IS BETTER THAN THOSE OTHERS.
navy avionics here for 20 but years ago. Tried to hang out in the ship's machine shop but have never used a lathe. Guess I just gotta buy one and go from there. Wonder if they have them at DRMO or if they''d be trash?
well enjoy yr future you will be one of few hands on.guy am the old man here manual machines..work younger guys and push button cnc who make three times what i do when i retire soon their screwedhave know idea how to fix improvise grind
@@6806goats1 Lots of good machinery gets tossed due to ridiculous reasons. Scored a $6000 genset for nothing because they didn't realize there was a fuel cutoff under the tank. Turned and started right up.
@@user-qy9rg3nt2l it seems when it comes to used stuff, US seems like a flea market compared to Japan which I considered as retail market. I've ever seen ppl get cars for free or just 3 digit bucks
You could gather the best people in TV world and they wouldn't be able to make a show about machining that is this entertaining. The internet is so peculiar.
@@Larry1942Will I checked out M l'Ecuyer, but I just can't decipher his accented French (Quebequois, je m'en doute?"). I'm fine with continental French if the enunciation is careful and they don't gabble (so I'm all at sea wth French TV, and radio, unless it's a politician, who tend to speak with great clarity!) but to me Canadian French is about as inaccessible as, say, Portuguese.
watching these olds ones really makes me appreciate just how much you've perfected your craft nowadays. Listening to unscripted Tony being so genuine is sort of satisfying in a way. these "sorry"s aren't scripted! its so interesting! love you tony! glad you've kept at it all these years!
my dad has a little grizzly mill, being in the shop with that thing at top speed isnt fun, and with any and I mean ANY cutter (Drill bit is bad enough, carbide cutters are worse) is scary, keep yer face away from the same plane as the teeth on the cutter.
Hey Tony. When you cut a metric thread on your student what is the driver gear count also the driven gear..... can't understand why mine is acting strange.... your the man....👌 Dave in the UK
I saw this video when it was released and loved it, I guess it was one of the things that convinced me to finally enrol in a machining/mechanics course. Now last December I started my internship on a local factory and my first job was cutting keyways on a similar shaper and I cannot explain how much confidence it gave me having seen this video. Even though I had seen it years ago and I couldn't find it then, your explanation of your eyeballing technique on the shaper still survived in my head somewhere, and I killed it since day 1. I owe you so much TOT, I really appreciate the time and effort you put into this channel.
Oh, and a technical comment on the material of the backplate: Cast iron is normaly choosen because its pretty resistant against dings and embedding chips. (Forget about the "vibration dampening" for such a compact part, it doesnt play into the overall thing.)
Not as much as cost of production. I know I would rather pay more for steel to avoid a 14" chuck flying off the lathe if I have a cross slide crash because I'm too busy watching the cutter. One good reason to never have a chuck that's big enough to interfere with the cross slide, I guess!
Resistance to dings is a matter of specific material. GG-25 grey cast iron dings very easily, while something like GG-70 does not. It is purely a cost reason to make them out of cast iron commercially, as the cast iron is cheap as dirt and easy & quick to machine. Making a back plate out of steel is like you said not an issue, it works just as any other thing would. Though I would choose something like W.Nr. 1.1730 or W.Nr. 1.7225 for the material to make sure it machines nicely unlike W.Nr. 1.055.
Nothing like This old Tony videos to keep me company at 3.00 AM when I cant sleep. I give a man to man nod in your direction master of the home metal hobbies.
Thank you.. I have Boxford vsl lathe, a Southbend 9" clone. It has an L00 spindel nose. And here en Denmark they're allmost imposseble to come by. So after watching this video 3 or 4 times, I went out to the garage and made my own. So thanks for the inspiration👍😁
That was very hillarious - Almost as I was trolling you in the video ;) Your videos remind me a bit of AvE but with less french and less cursing. Great editing and the tracking overlays are just to cool. Oh, and by the way, nice backplate ;)
No, it's because AvE actually speaks French in his videos. Don't be so over-dramatic and hyper-sensitive, the world isn't out to get you...FilmGelenk632 FilmGelenk632
Hey! A shaper! I just changed jobs and one of my first tasks was to reseal two of our shapers. The seals behind the flow control were glass-hard, and it had been leaking around half a gallon a minute for over 10 years they told me. Your 150spm is what we run our machines at (aluminum parts, very short stroke). So that speed is familiar to me. I'm really enjoying re-watching this video now that I'm exposed to machining as an industry directly. Cheers! Joel
It doesn't really matter because you don't have the shaper anymore... but you asked how to find true center for your keyways. It's actually pretty fast and easy. If you have an accurate v-block, center it with your tool holder, and then drop the table to use it to center your work piece. Easy peasey! Absolutely love your machining videos, man. Thanks for everything and all the great tips (and the humor!!!)
Exellent, Love your work. Back when I was a young fella, my Boss and I were drilling through something, not with the right tooling but you know , getting by. "Are we through" he said? I replied " as machinists we are" As you can see ,Australian technical humour has a long way to travel. Cheers
Like Cryangallegos, I am self-taught from a mixture of trial and error over the years and so I find videos like this are absolutely priceless. Here in UK, proper engineering is dying out and within a couple of decades we're going to have no one whatsoever in this Country who can do this type of work. A real shame considering we're the ones who started the industrial revolution. Thank you, T.O.T. for yet another absolutely excellent tutorial.
These were good ol' days, before the world went crazy. I like to come back to these old vids and reminisce. Also these were the videos that convinced me to spend my life savings converting my garage into a machine shop. I also like to come back to try and figure out just what the h-ll I was thinking... 🤣
Well... that was ... informative. Workmanship that would rival a master machinist... using a rough rock and a cold chisel. I never realized DL, Dumb Luck, was an intrinsic part of geometric formulas. Okay, getting serious, that is a fun video. I had the unfortunate job of assisting a master machinist once. 62 years experience starting when he was six, indentured to a machine shop in Serbia. You know you are working with a mentally disturbed precision perfectionist when he builds all his kitchen, garage and shop cabinets in thousandths. The first and only time I've seen a micrometer in the wood tools box. When the posts for the fence alongside the driveway must be precisely 6 feet long, 12 inch by 12 inch:... Me: "Say Phil, do you really think the termites care and pack measuring devices? That's green rough sawn lumber for crap sakes." Him: "I'm going to pressure treat them!" Me: "You're going to build a pressure tank large enough for those plugs of wood?" 6 1/2 months later he calls to tell me the posts are ready. Precisely 6 foot by 12" by 12", sanded to 400 grit. Well Phil owned a certain model Peugeot. More or less, the European equivalent of a Chevy Vega. After some 45,000 miles the engine was shot. So he took it to the best mechanic around for a rebuild. Getting it home it spun a bearing after about 2 1/2 hours. Ignoring the razz from his buddies to buy American, Phil tore the engine out, deciding to build it himself. Seeing that one coming, his wife bought a second car. Three months later, Phil fired up his wunderkar. After two weeks it was drinking oil to the tune of a quart every 100 miles. I attempted to explain to Phil you can't fit rings, pistons and cylinders to .5 thousandths. They have to break in. Wear in. Phil didn't buy it. Couldn't drive it either with that huge cloud of smoke following him around like a lost puppy. Sometimes 'good enough' is good enough. And it's a really good idea to be able to tell when you are beating a dead horse.
Wow, I thought I was OCD! Sorry, I meant O.C.D. Sorry, Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, (although I don't consider it a disorder as such; more, evidence of a higher functioning mind that realises that the devil is in the detail rather more than the average individual). Notice that I didn't credit the devil with a capital initial as that would be to acknowledge that Satan Is Lord. Obviously he isn't lord at all. Perish the thought. He doesn't exist for Christ's sake. Though if you think about it, where would Christ be without his opposite number? Just a normal guy who happens not to be evil and stuff. How would we know though? What standard would we have against which to measure his actions? I mean, who's going to argue with Jesus? He could get away with anything like Obama!
Awesome video Tony. I appreciate your understated and self deprecating ways, and quick wit. Great storyline that you used to present this machining project!
long time since I had such fun watching engineering videos. Great humour, keep it up. You have a talent for education with humour. Thanks very much for taking the time.
Well done and thank you! As someone who is trying to decide if metal work could be an interesting and beneficial addition to my retirement protocols, I can confirm your work was inspirational!
Thanks Tony from a new subscriber, great video with a good balance of humour and education... plus of course the very much appreciated cameo by Stefan. 👍🏼
"The Bruce Lee One-Inch Punch" bit still gets me every time, Old Tony. As if someone could have pulled that off without knowing EXACTLY what type of steel that was. You rascal, you...
I have to agree with all your other comments . I am a hobby machinist that has no idea other then what i am learning off you tube, books and the good old trial and error. You're videos are an invaluable learning tool as well as being entertaining . Who needs TV. Keep up the good work.😀
Dude I really love your videos. I am studying for a higher degree in machining and most of my coleagues subscribed to your channel after I show them a couple of your videos. Thank you for your work.
I was researching making a back plate for a new chuck I recently purchased for my lathe. Stumbled across your video and must say your humor is outstanding. I had to watch it twice, the first time I missed most of it because of laughing so hard I was crying. Thanks for the good video.
Well done..!! I'm currently a first year machining student in Nova Scotia. Videos like these are interesting,and for me, they push the learning curvet just enough to keep my brain engaged...
I think that is the third time I'm watching this video. It's still fascinating, very informative - and a LOT of fun. Loved the punch method - I'm still stuck with the old hacksaw approach :)
Your part turned out lovely. I have a ginormous four jaw and would like something smaller and safer like you have here. In my country we call it the "compound slide". 150 strokes per minute would be useful when the shaper stroke is very short. There it would run fairly smooth as the acceleration would be a lot less. You can use twist drills in place of three wires if you don't have a set. As a teacher a big challenge is stopping students from removing a part from the chuck so that you can measure it for them. I'm still working on that...... For such a long video I was never bored watching. (An amusing observation: In a shop with multiple lathes, the only one with the "American Standard Spindle Nose" was our Yamazaki. Made in Japan!)
A couple of UA-cam machinist recommended looking at your channel and I am glad I did. I like your narration style with a combination of humor, factual information, skipping the the boring parts. You machined a nice fit with the new backplate. I have to work from a notebook of shop sketches to minimizes surprises because I would forget an important detail. Glad to see it work out for you.
Machining humor courtesy of This Old Tony! I love your one inch punch Tony, it’s gnarly!! 😆😆 Edit: I’ve rewatched your videos so many times I’ve lost count. I never get tired of watching your videos, Tony, thanks for everything you do! 🥰🥰
Well back in my younger days I could do that one punch cut off with eight to ten inches but now I have to draw back at least three inches just to break wind ! 😎 That's what happens when you get old and decrepit, so enjoy it now while you can ! ;-) Thanks Tony for sharing, good video !
This is probably the 10th time I am watching this video, and am enjoying it as much or maybe even more than the first time... You my kind sir are a gift from the providence that graces this abominable realm...
I know exactly what you mean.. I have a Bison 3205 160mm 3-jaw for my Grizzly G4000 that has been kicking around my shop which has moved 6 times and two states and I had the same push of motivation to design a backplate: must be chuck season. But I have a tool you don't: SolidWorks. In about 2 hours I had a complete, accurate dimensioned drawing from a solid model ready to make as soon as I get a hunk of stock (steel :-) Purchased the chuck 24 May 1994, so I guess it is about time, and watching you I got some good tips. BTW the Stephan music video at the end was a superb bonus.
Great job! Would like to see the run out measurement later on. I panicked when you drilled the mounting holes and was hoping it would go well - very glad it did!! Usually on the last operation is where something goes wrong, for me at least. Thanks for the excellent work.
One of the things I saw while I worked around machine shops was, what I thought was a clever idea, a method of expanding registers that were just a tad undersized. The shop had a machine that had a bearing housing that had been badly damaged when the bearing seized and spun which then cracked the housing. They decided to make a new housing out of steel and a machinist was assigned to do the job. When the fitters (millwrights) reassembled the machine they were unhappy with the fit of the register. I it was just a tad loose foe their taste. Everyone was debating what to do when the shop owner, an old Englishman, came out. He looked at it and told the shop foreman to get it back in the lathe, register out. He told them when the got it in and trued in a four jaw to take a knurling tool and put a slight knurl around the registers circumference. You could almost see the light go on in everyone's head. Knurling the edge would raise the surface a few thousandths which could then be custom fit with a fine file while in the lathe. It took a few tries but after an hour or so of trial and error the part fit like a glove.
Hah, when I saw the title I thought, "Stefan will definitely comment on this one." Then the video started and I discovered I was more right than expected.
Thank you for your information on the back plate. I just purchased an off-brand 4 jaw chuck and now I have to make a back plate for my southbend lathe 13 in.
Very very funny, informative, and entertaining. I'm gaining confidence to have a go through watching you and importantly from your humanness in things not working out as perfect as you might like. Nevertheless you're acceptant of your efforts. Good work, thanks a lot.
A brilliant video. Very instructive and completely honest. Really helpful as I have to do this job on a Colchester Triumph with an L1 taper. I don't have a shaper though so wish me luck! Thank you
I really love your video's, they are always hilarious. Kinda reminds me of being in my Grandpa's metal shop. Also I like how you explain the things that you think are obvious, because they might not be obvious to others (including myself, LOL) Keep up the good work man.
There is something mesmerising about the shiny metal reveal when a piece is in the lathe... It sends joy through ones heart!! Sorry, I was getting a little emotional....
Inspiration thank you. Now I have to go and tackle installing a backplate for my er32 chuck, long time coming. Not as involved as yours but still challenging for me and at the same time enjoyable. like your presentation.
This weekend i started building a back plate for my new four jaw chuck ... damn i now need a new blank and one more weekend . I screw up miserably :(((
I only recently started watching your videos, interesting work and (very) entertaining editing-lol Im not a machinist just a home fabricator/tinkerer but wish I had went into machine work years ago instead of the automotive field - but im too old for either now so I look for great channels like yours to watch. Again im not a machinist, so just asking since you commented on the register fit, in a job like this was it necessary to check final runout at the chuck jaws, im guessing no since the jaws have to be dialed in anyway before a job-?? Looked great from here -- Thanks, Mike
Not strictly necessary since it's for a 4 jaw chuck. But you're right, if it was a 3 jaw.. or a self-centering 4 jaw, runout would have been very important.
18.5.17 From UK. UTUBE. Tony. Making A Back Plate.No Smoke Without a Fire. You know i am never failing to be amazed at the skill and innovation depicted in these videos. i have good reason to detest the media having spent 12 yrs gathering Political Medical.Charity Law.Mainstream Religion. University. Media.Govt info on foot in Cent London. The attacks we got were suppressed by employing BGs. The 1000pp provoked the BBC (who we are assoc with) to advise us to hide it abroad. Since then the deception re an aircrash has taken up some of our time. However, to get back to the topic,, the nonchalant way these engineers present their activities hurts my brain. They have tools and equipt beyond imagination. i sit here spellbound. Maybe one valuable thing about that field is the purity of the action. there's no secret letters or underhand tel calls or threats on violence. i am very very impressed. how odd is it that i met so many clever people like these who were scratching a living and in fact had little intention to take action about it. that leaves me in dangerous situations. We also admire the electonics geniuses and without them there would be no vids to teach us. how lucky are the people of the last 40 yrs or so. The downside is of course its all mainly taken for granted. Does anyone realise that the great steam engineer Trevithic and many others ended up penniless. Marconi of course knew how to use the ideas of others and do marketing. All these highly paid woman posing for photos would not even have a jar of face cream if it was not for machinists but that dont bother them and I fear it don't bother Engineers either.Reminds us of Cameron Clegg. Brennan. Grayling. Pickles etc (uk govt) who we removed by using 1000s emails.but of course at least 25% are blocked by Yahoo. Facebook. Police. Electoral Office. and others. They just instruct the illegal activity via a private enterprise org who do the blocking for them We are guided by the the following- Its The Rich What Gets The Money And The Poor What Gets The Blame. Yesterday we went on a site about chuck noses.( Pract Machinist).forums. The last entry was made by a man in US who is saying he is so poor he will have to continue working till he drops dead.What amazed and disgusted me was, there was no replies to that last entry which was some yrs ago i cant remember the date but could be 2004 or 2014. i wanted to try to help but every time I tried to register something went wrong. because i have had a life threat illness like poisoning and no med help and violent police attacks I felt too tired to persist. Of course the near death experience nightly made me do research into diagnostic tactics of 3000 yrs ago and now i am alive as a result. Of course it took about 20.000 hours to scratch the surface but I did it.The point is, the ignoring of the man on P-Machinist exactly aligns with what we found going on throughout Europe. In 12 yrs we only found about three people who could be trusted and who would act against wrong doing.Then we discovered the same dissociation was going on in 1940-50 re the A bomb research and Einstein and others said that the public wee collectively suppressing their consciences. He was very alarmed by what was goin on. but however we now know that was the fuse that destroyed the Greeks and Romans despite forcing philosophers to drink poison. Looks like the Dallas Bob Bellars 38.40 radio receiver group are dead on or mainly so, re the future of the US and Uk.Its nice to have ones own findings supported even if the numbers are under ten.No we dont tell lies and yes we realize you don't believe it. We were like you, once.so how can we be mad at you?? i know one thing, if i had not had impeccable advice when I was a nothing and nobody i would not now be alive. How i resisted the learning.Tatar. Got to go in a minute,there's 5 hour violence on TV to nite.i want front seat. Don't ask us about Trump, some Scottish Universities and the victims on a Golf Course. Scotland? Dont ask. Looking at the Engineering factories in China yesterday offering precision items at $15 no postage I foresee that most engineering will disappear in UK before long. in China the factories inside look more like palaces. We ordered summat from China for $5 (no postage) and summat went wrong. We got whole paragraphs of profuse apologies and offers almost of a free holiday. We sent dozens mails to UK govt Police. HM Coroners. HM CPS. HM bar Council etc.about life,death, spending and other researched issues. Did we get any reply. ? Go on have a guess.
just found your channel. was lurking around the schaublin lathe group on yahoo and your name came up, so i looked around and here i am. thanks for a great video.
As I watched you countersink those final holes on the backplate, I was glad to see you didn't remove more material from the outside diameter. Good call!
I suspect @Don King is right. I believe he used his band-saw, but he flipped the part. You can see the uneven matching cuts where he flipped it at 6:28 (ish). Since he had to cut it down already, it shouldn't matter that there was extra and uneven material left. It was to be removed anyway.
I absolutly love your channel, i want almost nothing more than to learn machining!! We dont even have a machine shop in the town i live, youve really inspired me to change that even tho the reality is it will never happen but just know that this channel has given me the inspiration and the motivation! Now i just gotta figure out those small factors like years of knowledge and that pesky money part lol. Very educational channel
Thanks This Old Tony. I've the same issue with my 4 jaw chuck and my small Optimum 180x300. Maybe now that day will also arrive soon back here after watching your inspiring video!
Man, I work in a USAF machine shop and we get basically nothing but one-offs, and never anything super complicated; the little tips and tricks I get from this channel are just awesome, since I've become basically the "seasoned veteran" despite being mostly self-taught. What I'm saying is that the lessons I learn here are invaluable since I don't work with anyone who could teach them to nearly such a degree.
"" Tips of Tony ""
""" Tricks of Tony """
"" Totally oresome Tony ""
"" Tricks or Treats"
" Turn or Turn "
THIS OLD TONY .
YES HE IS BETTER THAN THOSE OTHERS.
navy avionics here for 20 but years ago. Tried to hang out in the ship's machine shop but have never used a lathe. Guess I just gotta buy one and go from there. Wonder if they have them at DRMO or if they''d be trash?
well enjoy yr future you will be one of few hands on.guy am the old man here manual machines..work younger guys and push button cnc who make three times what i do when i retire soon their screwedhave know idea how to fix improvise grind
@@6806goats1 Lots of good machinery gets tossed due to ridiculous reasons. Scored a $6000 genset for nothing because they didn't realize there was a fuel cutoff under the tank. Turned and started right up.
@@user-qy9rg3nt2l it seems when it comes to used stuff, US seems like a flea market compared to Japan which I considered as retail market. I've ever seen ppl get cars for free or just 3 digit bucks
You could gather the best people in TV world and they wouldn't be able to make a show about machining that is this entertaining. The internet is so peculiar.
that can be said about alot of youtube channels. aVe, Alec Steele, Frank Howarth, etc.. all are quality channels.
Add olfoundryman, marc l'ecuyer that lazy machinist, Robrenz, & clickspring channels to the list. All produce content far better than any TV program.
Larry Schweitzer waaaait! Not so fast. I have to write those down. Except Chris. That one i already watch.
Likewise, as regards Techmoan's reviews.
@@Larry1942Will I checked out M l'Ecuyer, but I just can't decipher his accented French (Quebequois, je m'en doute?"). I'm fine with continental French if the enunciation is careful and they don't gabble (so I'm all at sea wth French TV, and radio, unless it's a politician, who tend to speak with great clarity!) but to me Canadian French is about as inaccessible as, say, Portuguese.
watching these olds ones really makes me appreciate just how much you've perfected your craft nowadays. Listening to unscripted Tony being so genuine is sort of satisfying in a way. these "sorry"s aren't scripted! its so interesting! love you tony! glad you've kept at it all these years!
Thanks Ezra!
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Quote from my father: "The highest setting is usually only there to scare the shit out of new operators so that they never use that setting."
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my dad has a little grizzly mill, being in the shop with that thing at top speed isnt fun, and with any and I mean ANY cutter (Drill bit is bad enough, carbide cutters are worse) is scary, keep yer face away from the same plane as the teeth on the cutter.
LOL @ "the only thing you can't make with a shaper is a profit".... True... So true.
I had to pause the video and guffaw at that remark for a hot minute myself.
Hey Tony. When you cut a metric thread on your student what is the driver gear count also the driven gear..... can't understand why mine is acting strange.... your the man....👌 Dave in the UK
I saw this video when it was released and loved it, I guess it was one of the things that convinced me to finally enrol in a machining/mechanics course.
Now last December I started my internship on a local factory and my first job was cutting keyways on a similar shaper and I cannot explain how much confidence it gave me having seen this video. Even though I had seen it years ago and I couldn't find it then, your explanation of your eyeballing technique on the shaper still survived in my head somewhere, and I killed it since day 1.
I owe you so much TOT, I really appreciate the time and effort you put into this channel.
Oh, and a technical comment on the material of the backplate:
Cast iron is normaly choosen because its pretty resistant against dings and embedding chips.
(Forget about the "vibration dampening" for such a compact part, it doesnt play into the overall thing.)
+Stefan Gotteswinter Cast Iron is more stable as well, I'm sure that factors into things.
Not as much as cost of production. I know I would rather pay more for steel to avoid a 14" chuck flying off the lathe if I have a cross slide crash because I'm too busy watching the cutter. One good reason to never have a chuck that's big enough to interfere with the cross slide, I guess!
You dance nice in this vid Stefan, you should do more of it on your channel :)
Stefan Gotteswinter
Resistance to dings is a matter of specific material. GG-25 grey cast iron dings very easily, while something like GG-70 does not.
It is purely a cost reason to make them out of cast iron commercially, as the cast iron is cheap as dirt and easy & quick to machine.
Making a back plate out of steel is like you said not an issue, it works just as any other thing would. Though I would choose something like W.Nr. 1.1730 or W.Nr. 1.7225 for the material to make sure it machines nicely unlike W.Nr. 1.055.
Nothing like This old Tony videos to keep me company at 3.00 AM when I cant sleep. I give a man to man nod in your direction master of the home metal hobbies.
man-nod right back at'cha.
I do love a nice man to man nod 😊
It's one gesture that means so much, from something so little, to explain a lot.
@@ThisOldTony so cool
Thank you.. I have Boxford vsl lathe, a Southbend 9" clone. It has an L00 spindel nose. And here en Denmark they're allmost imposseble to come by. So after watching this video 3 or 4 times, I went out to the garage and made my own. So thanks for the inspiration👍😁
That was very hillarious - Almost as I was trolling you in the video ;)
Your videos remind me a bit of AvE but with less french and less cursing. Great editing and the tracking overlays are just to cool.
Oh, and by the way, nice backplate ;)
+Stefan Gotteswinter Yeah, definitely reminded me of AvE as well. :)
+Stefan Gotteswinter My precise Thoughts compared to +AvE! Like an alter Ego that can machine parts without fire.
+Stefan Gotteswinter :) Why are you making fun of French, it's the same with Tom Lipton, I heard him say "excuse my french" lol. ;)
Stefan Gotteswinter
No, it's because AvE actually speaks French in his videos. Don't be so over-dramatic and hyper-sensitive, the world isn't out to get you...FilmGelenk632 FilmGelenk632
Hey! A shaper! I just changed jobs and one of my first tasks was to reseal two of our shapers. The seals behind the flow control were glass-hard, and it had been leaking around half a gallon a minute for over 10 years they told me. Your 150spm is what we run our machines at (aluminum parts, very short stroke). So that speed is familiar to me. I'm really enjoying re-watching this video now that I'm exposed to machining as an industry directly. Cheers!
Joel
It doesn't really matter because you don't have the shaper anymore... but you asked how to find true center for your keyways. It's actually pretty fast and easy. If you have an accurate v-block, center it with your tool holder, and then drop the table to use it to center your work piece. Easy peasey! Absolutely love your machining videos, man. Thanks for everything and all the great tips (and the humor!!!)
Best chuck money can buy? C'mon man, I'm right here!
O. M. G.!
*blushes*
Usually my live center makes people blush
Best comment here! Bison makes hella good chucks. They grip rods and shafts better than most could dream! ;-)
Haha!
"Best chucks money can buy", there's the rub, that money thing.
Exellent, Love your work.
Back when I was a young fella, my Boss and I were drilling through something, not with the right tooling but you know , getting by.
"Are we through" he said?
I replied " as machinists we are"
As you can see ,Australian technical humour has a long way to travel.
Cheers
hah!
Excellent
Australian humour at its best.
Which is effectively unbeatable.
It's still better than another U.S. movie goer saying, "throw another shrimp on the barbie".
Belly laughed pretty hard when you brought in that third hand for the thread wires like it was no big deal. love this channel.
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Like Cryangallegos, I am self-taught from a mixture of trial and error over the years and so I find videos like this are absolutely priceless. Here in UK, proper engineering is dying out and within a couple of decades we're going to have no one whatsoever in this Country who can do this type of work. A real shame considering we're the ones who started the industrial revolution.
Thank you, T.O.T. for yet another absolutely excellent tutorial.
That was a lot of trouble! I woulda just made it out of a nice piece of Oak, using a jigsaw and the drill press. 💁♂️
Calm down, Diresta.
hopefully you might use green oak, so that it forms the proper taper fit when it dries out automatically ;-)
I think a thick piece of cardboard would have done the trick.
Just use duct tape
These were good ol' days, before the world went crazy. I like to come back to these old vids and reminisce. Also these were the videos that convinced me to spend my life savings converting my garage into a machine shop. I also like to come back to try and figure out just what the h-ll I was thinking... 🤣
Well... that was ... informative. Workmanship that would rival a master machinist... using a rough rock and a cold chisel. I never realized DL, Dumb Luck, was an intrinsic part of geometric formulas.
Okay, getting serious, that is a fun video.
I had the unfortunate job of assisting a master machinist once. 62 years experience starting when he was six, indentured to a machine shop in Serbia.
You know you are working with a mentally disturbed precision perfectionist when he builds all his kitchen, garage and shop cabinets in thousandths. The first and only time I've seen a micrometer in the wood tools box. When the posts for the fence alongside the driveway must be precisely 6 feet long, 12 inch by 12 inch:...
Me: "Say Phil, do you really think the termites care and pack measuring devices? That's green rough sawn lumber for crap sakes."
Him: "I'm going to pressure treat them!"
Me: "You're going to build a pressure tank large enough for those plugs of wood?"
6 1/2 months later he calls to tell me the posts are ready. Precisely 6 foot by 12" by 12", sanded to 400 grit.
Well Phil owned a certain model Peugeot. More or less, the European equivalent of a Chevy Vega. After some 45,000 miles the engine was shot. So he took it to the best mechanic around for a rebuild. Getting it home it spun a bearing after about 2 1/2 hours. Ignoring the razz from his buddies to buy American, Phil tore the engine out, deciding to build it himself. Seeing that one coming, his wife bought a second car.
Three months later, Phil fired up his wunderkar. After two weeks it was drinking oil to the tune of a quart every 100 miles. I attempted to explain to Phil you can't fit rings, pistons and cylinders to .5 thousandths. They have to break in. Wear in. Phil didn't buy it. Couldn't drive it either with that huge cloud of smoke following him around like a lost puppy.
Sometimes 'good enough' is good enough. And it's a really good idea to be able to tell when you are beating a dead horse.
Good story! Thanks Ryan!
Wow, I thought I was OCD!
Sorry, I meant O.C.D.
Sorry, Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, (although I don't consider it a disorder as such; more, evidence of a higher functioning mind that realises that the devil is in the detail rather more than the average individual).
Notice that I didn't credit the devil with a capital initial as that would be to acknowledge that Satan Is Lord. Obviously he isn't lord at all. Perish the thought. He doesn't exist for Christ's sake. Though if you think about it, where would Christ be without his opposite number? Just a normal guy who happens not to be evil and stuff. How would we know though? What standard would we have against which to measure his actions? I mean, who's going to argue with Jesus? He could get away with anything like Obama!
That's a great one!
I'm not OCD but I am annoyed that the letters are not in alphabetical order?
@@johnwhipps5656 compulsive disorder obsessor! that'd do!
Awesome video Tony. I appreciate your understated and self deprecating ways, and quick wit. Great storyline that you used to present this machining project!
That 3rd hand reminded me of the Naked Gun. Love that slapstick humor. Great job keep-um coming!
long time since I had such fun watching engineering videos. Great humour, keep it up. You have a talent for education with humour. Thanks very much for taking the time.
+lookcreations My pleasure, thanks look!
I think it annoys me when he skips footage of machining
He says I'll find it boring but that's one of my favorite parts of these videos
Well done and thank you! As someone who is trying to decide if metal work could be an interesting and beneficial addition to my retirement protocols, I can confirm your work was inspirational!
Thanks Tony from a new subscriber, great video with a good balance of humour and education... plus of course the very much appreciated cameo by Stefan. 👍🏼
+Peter Baynes Thanks Peter, and good to have you!
"The Bruce Lee One-Inch Punch" bit still gets me every time, Old Tony. As if someone could have pulled that off without knowing EXACTLY what type of steel that was. You rascal, you...
I have to agree with all your other comments . I am a hobby machinist that has no idea other then what i am learning off you tube, books and the good old trial and error. You're videos are an invaluable learning tool as well as being entertaining . Who needs TV. Keep up the good work.😀
Dude I really love your videos. I am studying for a higher degree in machining and most of my coleagues subscribed to your channel after I show them a couple of your videos. Thank you for your work.
My grandparents had an Omes 300 on their farm and my grandmother used the 150 setting to churn butter.
:)
Well, I'm glad you found an off-label use for your grandparents butter churner
I was researching making a back plate for a new chuck I recently purchased for my lathe. Stumbled across your video and must say your humor is outstanding. I had to watch it twice, the first time I missed most of it because of laughing so hard I was crying. Thanks for the good video.
Well done..!! I'm currently a first year machining student in Nova Scotia. Videos like these are interesting,and for me, they push the learning curvet just enough to keep my brain engaged...
Thanks Michael, glad to hear it!
You & Stephan are a couple of my favorites anyway, but your editing in this video was hilarious. Thanks for sharing a great video.
Love the comedy. Very entertaining video and nice project!
Funny, interesting, fast, practical, ..., in one word : CLEVER !!!
Thank you for designing and sharing your videos !!!
I think that is the third time I'm watching this video.
It's still fascinating, very informative - and a LOT of fun.
Loved the punch method - I'm still stuck with the old hacksaw approach :)
Man, you are making some *outstanding* videos lately. They've always been very good, but now they are amazing. Great great work, sir!
+Pest789 Thanks!
Your part turned out lovely. I have a ginormous four jaw and would like something smaller and safer like you have here. In my country we call it the "compound slide". 150 strokes per minute would be useful when the shaper stroke is very short. There it would run fairly smooth as the acceleration would be a lot less. You can use twist drills in place of three wires if you don't have a set. As a teacher a big challenge is stopping students from removing a part from the chuck so that you can measure it for them. I'm still working on that...... For such a long video I was never bored watching. (An amusing observation: In a shop with multiple lathes, the only one with the "American Standard Spindle Nose" was our Yamazaki. Made in Japan!)
A couple of UA-cam machinist recommended looking at your channel and I am glad I did. I like your narration style with a combination of humor, factual information, skipping the the boring parts. You machined a nice fit with the new backplate. I have to work from a notebook of shop sketches to minimizes surprises because I would forget an important detail. Glad to see it work out for you.
+Paul Jones Thanks Paul, I appreciate that. Thanks for watching.
Absolutely one of my favorite channels. Nice work and love the sense of humor to boot!
Keep em coming.
+phooesnax Thanks!
Loved the video. The commentary is just off the chart!
The fact that I find this stuff more interesting than my actual job probably means I made the wrong call in life. Oh well.
Machining humor courtesy of This Old Tony! I love your one inch punch Tony, it’s gnarly!! 😆😆
Edit: I’ve rewatched your videos so many times I’ve lost count. I never get tired of watching your videos, Tony, thanks for everything you do! 🥰🥰
I really appreciate the little details you add. Just certain things here and there when you add some more info. It's really great.
your humor has it's own kind of funniness, in a good way
Well back in my younger days I could do that one punch cut off with eight to ten inches but now I have to draw back at least three inches just to break wind ! 😎
That's what happens when you get old and decrepit, so enjoy it now while you can ! ;-)
Thanks Tony for sharing, good video !
A brilliantly professional production. Thanks for posting!
Great video as always ! I find you methods & explanations very helpful ! Thank you for sharing your skills !
I keep finding myself watching all these videos for a second time... either that or I am remembering what I have seen in a parallel universe
Man this video is perfect!!!
Best youtube channel This Old Tony!!!! :)
+SIMI.KING MOTO Thanks! I'm work'n on it. :)
This is probably the 10th time I am watching this video, and am enjoying it as much or maybe even more than the first time... You my kind sir are a gift from the providence that graces this abominable realm...
I know exactly what you mean.. I have a Bison 3205 160mm 3-jaw for my Grizzly G4000 that has been kicking around my shop which has moved 6 times and two states and I had the same push of motivation to design a backplate: must be chuck season. But I have a tool you don't: SolidWorks. In about 2 hours I had a complete, accurate dimensioned drawing from a solid model ready to make as soon as I get a hunk of stock (steel :-) Purchased the chuck 24 May 1994, so I guess it is about time, and watching you I got some good tips.
BTW the Stephan music video at the end was a superb bonus.
We need more guest appearances, Tony
+Andre Gross How about doubleboost? That will confuse you yanks!
+Bob Shepherd bastad
Netflix: Are you still watching?
Someone's daughter: 21:46
hahaha hillarious
I can relate.
Why write "daughter"? That's just weird to creepy.
@@lost4468yt Thats just how the joke goes, its to make the crude humour more crude lmao
@@lost4468yt Every woman is someone's daughter
Thanks again, I like your honesty when things don't go exactly to plan
I enjoyed watching. Your math calculations and divider were up to the task and the holes came out so well. Congratulations and thanks.
I waited for the whole episode just to hear about thread cutting angles! ;)
very experienced ,professional machinist he is.but he doesn't act like it ;awesome character
Great job! Would like to see the run out measurement later on. I panicked when you drilled the mounting holes and was hoping it would go well - very glad it did!! Usually on the last operation is where something goes wrong, for me at least. Thanks for the excellent work.
Really enjoying your videos. Thanks for taking the time to make them!
Great video,I'm glad to see,that after making the adapter plate,you ran the "H" out of the chuck!
ha!
Perhaps you could make a replacement logo. Poke out the "H" and put in a "T" or just fill with black epoxy.
would also be loving to watch the thread cutting video
One of the things I saw while I worked around machine shops was, what I thought was a clever idea, a method of expanding registers that were just a tad undersized. The shop had a machine that had a bearing housing that had been badly damaged when the bearing seized and spun which then cracked the housing. They decided to make a new housing out of steel and a machinist was assigned to do the job. When the fitters (millwrights) reassembled the machine they were unhappy with the fit of the register. I it was just a tad loose foe their taste. Everyone was debating what to do when the shop owner, an old Englishman, came out. He looked at it and told the shop foreman to get it back in the lathe, register out. He told them when the got it in and trued in a four jaw to take a knurling tool and put a slight knurl around the registers circumference. You could almost see the light go on in everyone's head. Knurling the edge would raise the surface a few thousandths which could then be custom fit with a fine file while in the lathe. It took a few tries but after an hour or so of trial and error the part fit like a glove.
I love the sound of a nice clean cut in steel. The monstrous roaring aside, the sound of that shaper cutting is gorgeous
You can turn upper slide at 60 degree and cut thread by it (like taper). Tool will cut only one side and chatter may disappear.
Hah, when I saw the title I thought, "Stefan will definitely comment on this one." Then the video started and I discovered I was more right than expected.
wery nice job, I love how you set up the videos so funny and the interesting projects, thanks for sharing
I can't believe this video is 7yr old. And still just as hypnotic to my non machinist brain as day 1. You're awesome Tony.
Love thebruce lee punch
Awesome vid my man!
Thank you for your information on the back plate. I just purchased an off-brand 4 jaw chuck and now I have to make a back plate for my southbend lathe 13 in.
Love the choreography on this channel and I need to make one of these for my L1 taper on my new vintage lathe
Used that color for accents when I sold my house. Real estate crowd calls it "Add to your cart yellow." Supposed to tickle your Amazon gene.
that was hilarious, hope Stefan finds it funny as well.
+sharp x Thanks.. and that makes two of us!
+sharp x He does ;)
I'm a woodworker, but was enthralled with this whole video.... very cool stuff
+HHG drums Thanks HHG, good to have you.
Very very funny, informative, and entertaining. I'm gaining confidence to have a go through watching you and importantly from your humanness in things not working out as perfect as you might like. Nevertheless you're acceptant of your efforts. Good work, thanks a lot.
Dear Old Tony, another little slice of brilliance!
Thanks David!
From my understanding, I was always told that cast iron was used because it helps deaden harmonics.
I have a new go-to channel for machining wisdom. Very nicely done, TOT!
A brilliant video. Very instructive and completely honest. Really helpful as I have to do this job on a Colchester Triumph with an L1 taper. I don't have a shaper though so wish me luck! Thank you
I really love your video's, they are always hilarious. Kinda reminds me of being in my Grandpa's metal shop. Also I like how you explain the things that you think are obvious, because they might not be obvious to others (including myself, LOL) Keep up the good work man.
Thanks Zach!
This Old Tony ..what does "chatter" mean....explain please. ...I don't do lathe work but I love to watch you build things. thanks
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machining_vibrations
Your 1inch punch went awry because you used the Bruce Lee variant instead of the lesser known Chuck (Norris) variant. Hope this helps (you chuckle)
There is something mesmerising about the shiny metal reveal when a piece is in the lathe... It sends joy through ones heart!! Sorry, I was getting a little emotional....
Inspiration thank you. Now I have to go and tackle installing a backplate for my er32 chuck, long time coming. Not as involved as yours but still challenging for me and at the same time enjoyable. like your presentation.
This weekend i started building a back plate for my new four jaw chuck ... damn i now need a new blank and one more weekend . I screw up miserably :(((
I only recently started watching your videos, interesting work and (very) entertaining editing-lol Im not a machinist just a home fabricator/tinkerer but wish I had went into machine work years ago instead of the automotive field - but im too old for either now so I look for great channels like yours to watch. Again im not a machinist, so just asking since you commented on the register fit, in a job like this was it necessary to check final runout at the chuck jaws, im guessing no since the jaws have to be dialed in anyway before a job-?? Looked great from here -- Thanks, Mike
Not strictly necessary since it's for a 4 jaw chuck. But you're right, if it was a 3 jaw.. or a self-centering 4 jaw, runout would have been very important.
18.5.17 From UK. UTUBE. Tony. Making A Back Plate.No Smoke Without a Fire.
You
know i am never failing to be amazed at the skill and innovation
depicted in these videos. i have good reason to detest the media having
spent 12 yrs gathering Political Medical.Charity Law.Mainstream
Religion. University. Media.Govt info on foot in Cent London. The
attacks we got were suppressed by employing BGs. The 1000pp provoked the
BBC (who we are assoc with) to advise us to hide it abroad. Since then
the deception re an aircrash has taken up some of our time. However, to
get back to the topic,, the nonchalant way these engineers present their
activities hurts my brain. They have tools and equipt beyond
imagination. i sit here spellbound. Maybe one valuable thing about that
field is the purity of the action. there's no secret letters or
underhand tel calls or threats on violence. i am very very impressed.
how odd is it that i met so many clever people like these who were
scratching a living and in fact had little intention to take action
about it. that leaves me in dangerous situations. We also admire the
electonics geniuses and without them there would be no vids to teach us.
how lucky are the people of the last 40 yrs or so. The downside is of
course its all mainly taken for granted. Does anyone realise that the
great steam engineer Trevithic and many others ended up penniless.
Marconi of course knew how to use the ideas of others and do marketing.
All these highly paid woman posing for photos would not even have a jar
of face cream if it was not for machinists but that dont bother them and
I fear it don't bother Engineers either.Reminds us of Cameron Clegg.
Brennan. Grayling. Pickles etc (uk govt) who we removed by using 1000s
emails.but of course at least 25% are blocked by Yahoo. Facebook.
Police. Electoral Office. and others. They just instruct the illegal
activity via a private enterprise org who do the blocking for them We
are guided by the the following- Its The Rich What Gets The Money And
The Poor What Gets The Blame. Yesterday we went on a site about chuck
noses.( Pract Machinist).forums. The last entry was made by a man in US
who is saying he is so poor he will have to continue working till he
drops dead.What amazed and disgusted me was, there was no replies to
that last entry which was some yrs ago i cant remember the date but
could be 2004 or 2014. i wanted to try to help but every time I tried to
register something went wrong. because i have had a life threat illness
like poisoning and no med help and violent police attacks I felt too
tired to persist. Of course the near death experience nightly made me do
research into diagnostic tactics of 3000 yrs ago and now i am alive as a
result. Of course it took about 20.000 hours to scratch the surface but
I did it.The point is, the ignoring of the man on P-Machinist exactly
aligns with what we found going on throughout Europe. In 12 yrs we only
found about three people who could be trusted and who would act against
wrong doing.Then we discovered the same dissociation was going on in
1940-50 re the A bomb research and Einstein and others said that the
public wee collectively suppressing their consciences. He was very
alarmed by what was goin on. but however we now know that was the fuse
that destroyed the Greeks and Romans despite forcing philosophers to
drink poison. Looks like the Dallas Bob Bellars 38.40 radio receiver
group are dead on or mainly so, re the future of the US and Uk.Its nice
to have ones own findings supported even if the numbers are under ten.No
we dont tell lies and yes we realize you don't believe it. We were like
you, once.so how can we be mad at you?? i know one thing, if i had not
had impeccable advice when I was a nothing and nobody i would not now be
alive. How i resisted the learning.Tatar. Got to go in a minute,there's
5 hour violence on TV to nite.i want front seat. Don't ask us about
Trump, some Scottish Universities and the victims on a Golf Course.
Scotland? Dont ask. Looking at the Engineering factories in China
yesterday offering precision items at $15 no postage I foresee that most
engineering will disappear in UK before long. in China the factories
inside look more like palaces. We ordered summat from China for $5 (no
postage) and summat went wrong. We got whole paragraphs of profuse
apologies and offers almost of a free holiday. We sent dozens mails to
UK govt Police. HM Coroners. HM CPS. HM bar Council etc.about
life,death, spending and other researched issues. Did we get any reply. ?
Go on have a guess.
John Smith
You need more medication, or possibly less, I can't be sure...
Matt Hunter a poor man with one watch always knows what time it is. a rich one with two, is never quite sure...
matt: you can't help low intelligence, no matter what you gives him.
just found your channel. was lurking around the schaublin lathe group on yahoo and your name came up, so i looked around and here i am. thanks for a great video.
As I watched you countersink those final holes on the backplate, I was glad to see you didn't remove more material from the outside diameter. Good call!
Stefan comments are the best
+EmperorDevilhunter
"One hundred of a millimeter ? Yeah, not too bad" - Stefan
:D
so how did you cut the plate before the bruce lee punch?????
I think that punch did it. (actually my main question after watching this video for the first time)
band saw
I suspect @Don King is right. I believe he used his band-saw, but he flipped the part. You can see the uneven matching cuts where he flipped it at 6:28 (ish). Since he had to cut it down already, it shouldn't matter that there was extra and uneven material left. It was to be removed anyway.
By far the funniest machining videos, love your style and humor.
I absolutly love your channel, i want almost nothing more than to learn machining!! We dont even have a machine shop in the town i live, youve really inspired me to change that even tho the reality is it will never happen but just know that this channel has given me the inspiration and the motivation! Now i just gotta figure out those small factors like years of knowledge and that pesky money part lol. Very educational channel
I am checking the comments waiting for a comment by Stefan. I really enjoy your videos Tony.
+larsmark He needed some time to recover from laughing ;)
You sound just like I picture myself sounding if I knew what I was doing and had a better sense of humor.
+DrPortland hah.. you've got some style there DrPortland; got yourself some style.
Thanks This Old Tony. I've the same issue with my 4 jaw chuck and my small Optimum 180x300. Maybe now that day will also arrive soon back here after watching your inspiring video!
I think your videos are really entertaining. I like them because of your personality. Please don't ever change.
Chuck back plates are not my thing. But i've still come to the right channel. Trust me.
I stand by my evaluation: That shaper is posessed.
You crack me up! Love your videos. Entertaining and extremely informative.
Great job of presenting technical knowledge in a humorous manner, makes learning enjoyable! Thanks!!