I played Reload as my first P3 experience, and I personally loved Nyx’s battle. While I may have beat it first try, it was still very stressful, and I was terrified I would have to start over the whole thing. I think that if this fight was too challenging, I might not have beaten the game, and I play a ton of RPG’s. I can’t imagine how someone would feel with their first RPG being Persona 3 FES. This fight is definitely something special though, one of the most memorable final battles I have experienced.
Your experience right here is what I'm hoping the majority of people feel towards Reload Nyx. Persona 3 is very special to me so I'd hate for Newcomers to finish the game with a sour taste in their mouth. Thanks for sharing 🙌.
For Nyx’s voice, I personally prefer reload. I feel while it may be less threatening, he sounds like he is in such pain in the way he delivers lines. It adds more emotional depth to the fight that the original didn’t have imo
@@ReversedJrpgs I also got the vibe that Nyx is very reluctant and does not want to fight at all, yet must due to the unconscious desire of people preferring death over enduring hardship somehow forcing Nyx to regardless.
I recently started playing Persona, with P3 FES. Seeing Koromaru do two thirds of Nyx's health bar in one move was absolutely surreal... That fight took me one and a half hours...
I'd say good call on playing FES recently even with Reload being a thing now. The majority would say otherwise, but FES has a number of advantages over Reload. Later down the line if you ever miss P3, give Reload a shot and it'll be a nice treat, having that you already finished the main course ;)
Great video, you brought a lot of points to the table and was a good watch, truly i hope the community creates a mod to change the background for the final boss fight after all the last month we see EVERYTHING get greyscaled into apathy, there are almost no colors left by the end of january SO MUCH SO that even the dark hour looks devoid of color, so it makes sense for the final confrontation to take place on a barren, grey looking place
@@Brodyquester There's is actually someone working on that mod already 😊. Their name is Meovvcat on Twitter. Shame for console players like me tho lol.
I finished Reload two days ago and I really expected a second phase after defeating Nyx, she went down too fast and too easily. I was kinda dissapointed because the buildup is so cool and the game makes you think it's an impossible fight... still a cool boss nonetheless, I really enjoyed the moment
I'm glad people are at least enjoying the enjoying the moment, but yeah Atlus really shot themselves in the foot by making the fight this straightforward.
Glad to hear that 🙏 Yeah I just felt bitter after beating him in Reload, he need SOMETHING to make him stand out. If I had to rank all the games final bosses I'd go: P3 > P5R > P4 > P5 > then P3R
@@ReversedJrpgs The worst final boss in the series ? damn I played FES and potable before the remake and didn't felt that was that bad aside of the difficulty
i actually like the reload voice more. its like you can feel ryoji is still in there, miserable that he has to do this to his friends and cant stop it. nyx recites the arcana line not as an evil queen but someone who knows they're doing something awful but cant stop themself. i love that dynamic so much. makes nyx less of a black and white evil villain and more like a force of nature that doesnt wish to harm you but knows what must be done, because death IS a part of nature. I really liked the fight in reload. i wasnt super OP, i didnt have armageddon i just went in with my team and brawled it out. i didnt die but it was def a struggle. my theurgies only got her final phase to half hp and night queen and grim trancendance were giving me some issues. eventually fuuka charged heatrisered, aigis divekick of justice won us the day. I really enjoyed it and took a massive sigh of relief after i was done. I almost cried after seeing all my social links one last time then cried at the credits because holy hell this game is so amazing
I already knew about Nyx’s infamous difficulty before playing Reload but I never got to play P3 until reload so it was my first experience actually fighting Nyx. I REALLY do wish the fight had been a lot harder though… Just because Nyx has like 13 health bars doesn’t necessarily make it a hard boss fight, ESPECIALLY when you can easily OHKO every single phase and not even let Nyx get a single attack in. It’s weird though because after playing 4 Golden and 5 Royal I was CERTAIN they’d actually make the soo called “impossible” battle against Nyx feel impossible. But ironically enough, it ended up being easier than all of them and even more embarrassingly, I think I had more trouble with the Musha Squad and The Shadow of the Void in the Monad Doors…
Seeing the models side by side the reload obviously looks better but there’s something about the ps2 one she just looks a lot more overwhelming and grand
i disagree, the thing is that reload is a more colorful game than the original, that doesn't make one worse or better, but reload needs to stay consistent with itself and i still think it would be weird for the dark hour nights to always have green overshadowing it, and then that just not be the case for the final fight because it wanted to be like the original
I genuinely wished it would've been as hard as og (maybe make theurgies hurt nyx less? give back the 2 turns? make it 3?) idk, difficulty was just- not there-
Reload was my first time through P3, and nyx wasn't all that difficult, but at that point I was fairly overleveled, so it didn't concern me. I feel like P3R is much more concerned with contrast than the original, for instance, in the original the dorm is already kinda gloomy, so the january changes don't feel all that drastic, but in reload it goes from a cozy home base to somewhere I actively hate being, similarly the FES nyx fight being hard takes away from the reveal of nyx's true overwhelming nature, and the drastic measures you take to seal nyx away are much more expected.
reload was my first persona 3 experience and have no fear, this is one of my absolute favorite final bosses of all time, although i dont know if something could top my absolute favorite which is sekiro's final boss, i love myself some challenge, but for a game like this, honestly im fine with the difficulty it was at, it also helps that i suck at making myself op, so i was severely underpowered and it provided me with challenge that took thought (for reference i did zero special summons which means only candeza, with my best personas being thoth oberon and godamn ara mitama who i had since the beginning, and i also brough aigis mitsuru and akihiko who i believed to be my best party members and landed the final blow with aigis's second theurgy which was thematic as hell) for story and character you already know it was incredible, with the setup and anticipation being immaculate, for music i already heard the default nyx theme and was a little disappointed at first but like they are so interchangeable it doesnt matter i just listen to the triple mix on yt which is the best version to one of the best osts of all time, and for design, bias alert, green is my favorite standard color so yeah i do actually prefer the reload version, although i think the neutering of backgrounds was unfortunate, and nyx themselves holy shit this might be my favorite boss design of any game, when i first saw it emerge and saw it had a face i was really fucking worried it would be some really goofy realistic face but when the face reveal happened i actually was like damn this is uncanny as hell it looks sick, and something im upset you didnt mention is the colors of nyx's main body because they look so fucking cool, i think im just a sucker for wings and nyx delivers so hard on that front, as well as having a sick ass greatsword, as for his voice, eh i think the old version sounds too robotic, and while im not the biggest dan of some line deliveries from aleks (for example he does some weird pauses in between words like in the clip you shared) but the voice itself i have no problems with, sorry for the terrible sentence formatting i never use periods for comments like this but yeah a little extra bonus that helped this fight is that i was playing around midnight so that definitely added to it, so yeah loved it to death, man this game brings me so much joy
I'm really glad to hear you enjoyed it! wish I could experience it while underleveled lol but min maxing kinda just comes naturally to me after playing so many rpgs. Sword Saint is such a great boss oh my god, but my first time around I was just like "bro who tf is this old guy and why did he emerge from that one guys body wtf is this actually the final boss??" 0_o. Nothing bests Soul of Cinder when it comes to souls bosses for me tho.
I feel like the reason Atlus made it so easy is so that people wouldn't get so pissed off at the end to the point where they wouldn't enjoy the story. For me, I played Reload on Normal and as it was my first time ever playing a Persona game, it was a nice challenge for someone who's only other RPG is Yakuza. I feel like that's why they really want you to do New Game+ at the end, so that you can go back in and have fun at a higher difficulty since you don't really need to focus on the story anymore. I've looked at both FES' version, and Reload's versions and they both look enjoyable. I wouldn't say one is better than the other (mainly since I have only just started FES), but I feel like both have their old charm to it, and it shows how far that games has come.
I got my whole party to 99 before fighting him. I knew he was gonna be easy at that point but man.... it was like fighting a gatekeeper or something I ran through his phases like it was nothing. I didn't even want to use Armageddon on his last phase because I wanted it to be more challenging
I have to agree with the uniqueness, Persona 3 Reload was the first RPG I had enjoyed and fully completed. I didn’t care how easy Nyx was, I genuinely enjoyed the fight and even his intro, seeing the feathers form a ball to create Nyx and seeing the Full moon is forever engrained into my mind, I have been so happy for giving Persona 3 a chance as I usually dislike RPG’s
Personally, I like Reload's Nyx Avatar fight better overall. I have not actually played the original myself, but I've watched a friend stream the whole of it, so I can say I've experienced it well enough to judge. The lack of Nyx Avatar's second action per turn is remedied by its damage output being significantly higher per hit in Reload (I did compare, though not down to the millimetre so to speak), not to mention Grim Transcendence in the final two phases letting it move like four times in that turn. Though I do admit that Reload's version is ultra-cheesable by using Theurgies, but that's not a problem with Nyx Avatar specifically.
7:23 that's one of the few things that I don't like about Reload, with so many quality of life improvement and aid for newcomer (theurgy, shift system, rewind, ect) but the dev didn't even bother to balance out the rest of the game (especially for the full moon and nyx boss fight) even in merciless difficulty most of the bosses in this game are a bit of a joke
As someone that only played reload, I still found the encounter very memorable despite how easy it was. It definitely looks like the white lighting and harder combat would have massively improved the encounter though
As someone who played reload as their first persona experience as a whole I played on easy which looking back was a mistake but stills the Nyx fight for me was stressful and very rewarding once I finished it. I played the game again on merciless (new game+) and the nyx fight even with theregy (I didn’t really use it on my first play through) was still insanely tough and while I didn’t die I came very close a couple times and that final phase made me near sh** myself a couple times
Just the other day finished Reload for the first time and honestly? I struggled more against the reaper than NYX. It's funny coming from p5r (the only other peronsa game I've played) i found Reload to be overall a decent challenge and a fair step up from p5r in difficulty...and then NYX happened, like other people said i was ready for a second phase but nope that was it. Still though I will say despite that i still had a great time with the fight and i loved the spectacle of it, it truly does feel like the stacks have never been higher.
Yeah comparatively Reload offers a slightly higher challenge than Royal does, but no where near enough. Most encounters still feel like a one sided beat down rather than a threatning scenario that requries strategic thinking. Its funny, cuz I remember beating Yaldabaoth for the first time and thinking "damn, Nyx was way better" and now Im beating Nyx in Reload and thinking "damn, wish I could fight Yaldabaoth again 🤣". Honestly, my favorite fight in the game has got to be the Hanged Man. Its got just the right amount of challenge.
The Reload voice more matches the original Japanese voice. I do agree with you that I liked the atmosphere better in the original and I wish there was a Merciless+ mode since the experience was better when Nyx beat the crap out of you. But I also understand why video games have been easing on difficulty, but I still want optimal modes that have that late 90s early 2000s difficulty curve.
As a newcomer to Persona 3 in general, aside from being spoiled for one specific story point near the end of the game. I will say I did really enjoy the Nyx bossfight, though almost purely due to memorable-ness as opposed to challenge. I found Nyx an easier boss than I thought they would be, considering how menacing they'd been built up to this point in the game, and honestly didn't have too much trouble with the boss due to my theurgies and the strageties I had employed for Nyx. The pure spectacle of fighting Death and swapping through all the arcana and trying to figure out their weaknesses throughout the 14 phases was amazing, the lead was amazing, and the cutscenes after the fight were great. While definitely seeming to lack the spectacle the original p3 games had, I never played those first, and while yeah it definitely would been preferable to have Nyx been like that for this remake, I will say what I got wasn't the worst thing in the world.
I think I like both voices from the small amount of Nyx's voice I heard from the original and the large amount I heard from Reload as I have actually played that one. I don't like the staticey effect on the original Nyx's voice though. The deep voice is enough
I am a newcomer to the franchise, my only game before Reload was 5 Royal, I got spoiled for persona 3, because I watched videos on it before the remake, and I still believe it’s the best way to play, while I was spoiled to the game, I loved how I couldn’t outrun my fate, the game was set in stone and I couldn’t change it despite knowing what was coming, it was an amazing experience, and with Nyx, HE WAS FUCKIN EASY. But I still had to use some strategy, especially when he nulled electric, which was my main element.
Yo, idk why but UA-cam hasn’t been sending me notifs for your videos. Which is sad because I always like watching your videos while I work on something or grind in P4 for the most OP build. NYX voice just feels… unthreatening? Idk, I just don’t thing it clicked like it did in P3 and the anime’s
I’ve only played reload, and I’m disappointed in myself. My goofy ahh brain thought ‘Wouldn’t it be funny if I hit the Armageddon button and it just died instantly?’ Thinking they’d have measures in place to stop you from doing that. I tried it. I then proceeded to stare at the screen without pressing any buttons for like 5 minutes.
In your defense, if you had access to Armageddon at that point you could have ended the fight in like 2 turns. Takaya and Jin before Nyx were scripted to stop Armageddon from killing so I would have thought the same would apply to Nyx lol.
I finished Persona 3 Relaod about 2 weeks ago, and I decided that on my first playthrough, i was going to fight Nyx alone and trying my absolute best to not use theurgy. Which i did and i have to say that it was a pretty difficult boss fight that took me about an hour or two, but in the final phase I realized that I was impossible and I HAD to use theurgy if I wanted to win unless i wanted to sit there for another hour. So in the final phase I used scarlet havoc to beat Nyx and I was successful, but expected it to be a bit harder since I heard that Nyx in the original could inflict you with ailments. But im not complaining. This was on hard difficulty.
This video made me so sad to realize I may suck at Jrpgs💀, Nyx in reload wooped my ass so bad. Took me like 5 tries to finally scrape a win. Though I was pretty underleved for the fight. But I enjoyed the Nyx fight a lot due to that.
Persona 3 FES was my first Persona game, and it was an amazing experience for me. I loved the game, but once I reached the final boss, I couldn't beat it no matter how many times I tried. I was beaten every time. By the end of the fight, Nyx used charm and gained full hp back again for countless times over and over again the fight was impossible for me and i have done research for the fight and learned that ı needed and item for preventing the charm issue of mine, but i didnt have an save file for going back before the fight and bought the actual item so it was impossible and kinda ruined my experience a little bit. When I learned about the remake, I was so excited and wanted to get my revenge, only to find out that the fight in the remake was a joke. Great video btw you are the first person that i saw talks about the this issue.
Thanks for watching! Oh God, you got the worst of both experiences 😅. Now that you've experienced both though, which fight did you prefer? You've probably grown alot since then so maybe you can get your revenge in FES still lol. Assuming u still got ur saved data.
@@ReversedJrpgs Unfortunately i was playing on emulator so my save files is gone but im definitely play the FES version again to get my revenge. Thanks for the feedback.
Yeh i haven't played reload yet but one of my favorite passtimes is watching others fight against nyx blind and i was... well disappointed how people who played reload had a much easier and less threatening time compared to thos who played the original, and they were just blazing through Nyx's phases with theurgys (or straight up grinded to a high enough level to get and use Armageddon on the last phase to cheeze it or accidentally killed em expecting a 9999 damage move not to kill). Now i don't think Nyx should have been like very overwhelmingly difficult but i do believe they shouldn't have been this easy not just for challenge sake but for the spectacle as well and appreciate how well made the fight is ... or at leest was supposed to be. I like some of the additional stuff theey added to the fight in reload like the extra dialogue and seeing Nyx evolve and grow stronger as the fight progresses (like how their sword gets shrouded in darkness like the movie) they did Nyx so good in that regard, but all in all failed to replicate challenge of the original which in turn (imo) hurts the spectacle, feeling of desperation, and seriousness of the fight. This vid was well put together nice work on it btw
I only played reload, your points are correct, but I still liked it, but definitely played smth like this before. I wanna play og persona 3 but currently playing 2, is og worth touching at all or straight FES?
Nah don't bother with OG. FES is basically the same game, they just added costumes, Orpheus Telos, New music for Tartarus, the Aigis SL and they moved Tanakas SL to night time. Plus u get The Answer 👍.
I am probably the only one was hoping for Nyx to use all arcana during the fight as I wanted it to feel like a battle where no matter how many times you beat down Nyx he simply recovers and uses a new approach, with the final one being the Death Arcana. I thought it was very fun...even though I enjoyed the combat in Tartarus so much that I had a Level 96 Satanus with no weaknesses and very deadly abilities to give you a vague idea. In other words, accidentally overleveled. I do find it weird that they kept the ability for the Reaper to have multi-action turns. I absolutely love Persona 3 Reload and am a fan of Atlas now and want to Platinum Persona 3 Reload on PS5. I think the only games that I managed to Platinum were Sonic Frontiers and The Order 1886 with latter having a very criminally underrated story. I have completed a lot of games on PS4 and PS5, just never Platinum'd. I have also started playing Persona 4 Golden for the first time and am enjoying it; however, I would be lying if I said I did not crave the more strategic yet faster paced combat of Persona 3 Reload.
That's another thing I think we should address, the fact that it's really easy to accidentally get overpowered in this game without even having to grind. Reloads platinum isn't that hard so definitely go for it 👌 Hope you have fun with P4G, it's an incredible game! Be extra careful of spoilers online with this one though.
atlus needs to stop making modern persona so god damn easy ;-; also, despite the visuals being objectively better technically, the green light just does not work :(
I played portable on my switch first and honestly by the time I got to nyx I wasn't having fun granted it didn't help I went backwards from five and I thought the game really needed a remake so I ended up enjoying reload nyx more than the original I know that might make some people mad but that's how I felt my first time through portable I will say nyx is still very creepy in both versions I mean look at that face
I do feel like a lot of the complaints you have are nostalgia bias, mostly with the voice. The og voice is iconic, but the new one feels more…real, I guess, there’s probably a better way to describe it. It also feels more like Ryoji which is nice. And also I don’t know if anyone else agrees with me on this but I actually really like the green during the fight. Maybe it’ll just bc the og was on the ps2 and if they kept the white/black colors in Reload they could have made it look better, but I feel like Nyx stands out a lot more against the green. As I write this I do feel more like maybe the white could have worked with newer graphics but showing me the two of them side by side didn’t help your case in my opinion. Unfortunately yeah, the fight was pretty easy. Personally I never found the og fight (well Portable’s fight in my case but whatever) to be that difficult but the length of the final phase was a bit anticlimactic. When I got there in Reload I figured it was due to me being like ten levels overleveled, which I still do think is part of it. I think unfortunately Atlus isn’t going to make a persona final boss that’s actually difficult so Reload’s Nyx difficulty was largely affected by that. In fairness, the fight is quite lengthy regardless of this so I kinda get it but the least they could do is make the late game fights significantly tougher on higher difficulties.
P3 Reload is my first Persona game, I had NO idea of the story, and overall it was a really cool fight! Until, yeah, I was on for the spectacle and really thought it wouldn't work so I did Armagedon for fun on the last phase It did look great, but it did also feel like it shouldn't have worked at all, like it makes Nyx lose so much presence and pressure
@@ReversedJrpgs Eh, Probably changed it because new players thought it took to long in the original. In away, you have to simply fight Nyx slowly to draw out the fight or better yet don't use any debuff skills on Nyx
@@shelbybayer200 when I saw the initial phases I assumed that they made the previous 12 phases easier so that people didn't have to spend a bunch of time on it while slowly ramping things up until the death arcana . Thats where things would go in full swing with Nyx having two press turns always
My first and only P3 experience was P3 portable. I absolutely loved the tension this game was building up the entire time and I can't stress this enough how unique the experience of this game was. I was constantly curious what would happen next to the extent that I worried that the game couldn't get any better or emotional, but it always did. Sadly, the Nyx battle was not as fascinating for me as you make it sound. Everything you say is obviously true, but what kinda ruined the experience for me was the tediousness of Tartarus (I also should say that I played the game on easy difficulty because I heard that jRPG's are really difficult and I never played any before). The late stages of the game, which for me consisted of pretty much just grinding, were so unenjoyable. I grinded so much because it was constantly stressed that the battle was pretty much impossible to win and I ended up over-prepared. I know I chose the easy difficulty, but for example Margaret's challenges were way harder than the entire Nyx fight (this could be because these challenges aren't mandatory unlike the main boss, but I still think it shouldn't be this way). Also, during the battle, I kinda counted Nyx as just another level of Tartarus instead of a final part of the game. I was obviously hyped as hell but it didn't hit as much as it was supposed to. Nevertheless I'm glad to hear that the whole thing looks different on harder difficulties because I'll be replaying the game anyway. Sorry for the long comment : )
Thanks for sharing. Yeah I can definitely see this fight not being for everyone. An hour long encounter can either be interpreted positively as being Epic or Negatively as being a slog fest. The same can be said about exploring a 264 floor long tower lol. Pretty sure Portables version of Nyx was also changed for the worse, not as bad as Reloads tho, but it's been a while so I can't really comment on him there. Since I you're new to JRPGs, I will say that while Grinding is an option, Persona games don't really encourage it. If you're planning on playing the game again, my tip is avoid grinding and spend some time in the velvet room if you get stuck on a boss or something. Way more fun. Trust me ;).
@@ReversedJrpgs It's not as much about the length of the fight, but about the fact that I could beat her stage in like 3-4 turns and she then dealt me 60 damage : /. But I'm probably complaining that the game I set on easy was actually easy. And thanks for the tip! I totally won't be going through the whole grind again. I think I ended up with only like 50% of persona compendium completed and now I kinda see it as a wasted potential :)
I only played reload and i fought NYX after spending 10 hours trying to beat 'liz (dont mock me I'm bad and didn't look tuto so i had to figure out all the rules of the fight) so i was super sad that i one shotted every phases, he couldn't even attack....The setup was fine and the last phase was super cool + the cutscene were insane. I think it is a great boss that just has a bad fight. Maybe i shouldn't have done liz prior to the fight because it is the real challenge or whatever... i think overall P3 has some bad scaling IMO 'liz is stupidly hard and NYX stupidly easy, some moon bosses had enormous amount of hp and so pour damage that it was just annoying and repetitive (I loved the game tho its one of my fav, no games are perfect even elden ring has those problems).
Lol don't sweat it, Liz is a nightmare to figure out. A perfect example of hard not equaling fun. She was originally made to be fought in NG+ so they definitely weren't expecting someone to beat her then fight Nyx for the first time lol. But then again, trust me, whether u beat Liz or not, Nyx in this game is a complete pushover. The recent persona games since P5 have all had problems with consistent difficulty scaling, hoping Atlus gets their shit together by P6.
In my opinion, even though it was my first time playing persona 3 as a whole. I honestly was more upset that they didn’t use 2d animation for nyx’s intro since I’ve watched some p3f videos before. And honestly I feel like 2d animation for most of the cutscenes would have just made the game better honestly. Not saying that the 3d animation is bad but I just prefer the 2d animations more.
Truee. I at least wanted scenes that were originally 2d to stay that way and have the 3d pre rendered animations to replace some other scenes like they did for chidoris death scene for example.
6:44 You’re not doin’ a good job of convincing me considering you JUST SAID you find it easier due to all the experience you have with these games, I’l wait for proper elaboration.
The problem I have with you thinking Nyx is too easy is that you played a lot of other SMT games. You even said that they made the original Nyx seem easier when you went back to that game. Reload is rebalanced to make things way more convenient for the average player so the boss that you already said that you found to be not so bad after other smt games was made easier in the new release. So, even if the difficulty is adjusted, you found it too easy because you have played a lot of these games. And, a boss designed like Nyx with all those phases and no checkpoints, would be more annoying to me than fun if Nyx was harder to fight.
I only played reload and a little of portable. Imo i thought the idea and execution was good. I ruined my own experience by being 99 so i wish i didn’t take that month of preparation too seriously 😭
I don't think your reaction comparison works, those are three completely different streamers. I am sure I could search around and find the opposite to those reactions for the same fights. People who think Persona 3 (original) is too easy and finding a completley different streamer who thinks Reload is too hard.
Yeah I'm just pointing out the common reactions. I made sure to choose streamers who have already played Personas 4 and 5 before playing 3, and who are not new to rpgs. That way, being familiar with persona mechanics won't play a factor.
it was honestly very underwhelming difficuly wise i stuggled quite heavily against literally every other boss but i kinda just ran through nyx without even trying that much the music and dialogue was cool though
Persona 3 reload is just too easy. Even with the memento mori re balance mod which makes the game harder it wasn't on the same level as fes because of the theurgy they are just to overpowered.
I wish nyx fucked with you and got to your head a bit more. He’s death, yet despite playing on hard, he’s barely do any major scary damage. The fight felt long but not long and good. Just dragging on. The story was so great but honestly the waste of a buildup felt very killer in terms of my enjoyment in the game.
13:09 "Original" voice - uses an English dub. Lol that's not original, Japanese VO should be considered original. Or are you gonna call YongYea butchered version of Star Arcana original too?
??? I literally just said seconds before this that it's more accurate to how Nyx sounds in Japanese. Obviously, yes that's the original. I meant original dub if u really wanna be a smartass about it lol. I thought Yong yeas voice for Mamoru was fine honestly. He doesn't work for Kiryu but that doesn't mean he's bad in other roles. Plus Mamoru wasn't voiced in the OG so I don't really get what u mean?
This comment has some heavy “erm actually” energy from it. I’m not one to speak, but Your being incredibly rude to a smaller UA-camr who puts a lot of effort into his videos. It’s incredibly obvious he didn’t mean the Japanese version, your being, as he said, a complete smartass.
I played Reload as my first P3 experience, and I personally loved Nyx’s battle. While I may have beat it first try, it was still very stressful, and I was terrified I would have to start over the whole thing. I think that if this fight was too challenging, I might not have beaten the game, and I play a ton of RPG’s. I can’t imagine how someone would feel with their first RPG being Persona 3 FES. This fight is definitely something special though, one of the most memorable final battles I have experienced.
Your experience right here is what I'm hoping the majority of people feel towards Reload Nyx. Persona 3 is very special to me so I'd hate for Newcomers to finish the game with a sour taste in their mouth. Thanks for sharing 🙌.
For Nyx’s voice, I personally prefer reload. I feel while it may be less threatening, he sounds like he is in such pain in the way he delivers lines. It adds more emotional depth to the fight that the original didn’t have imo
That's a good point. It's feels more like we're still fighting our friend rather than an ethereal being, which has its own advantages.
@@ReversedJrpgs I also got the vibe that Nyx is very reluctant and does not want to fight at all, yet must due to the unconscious desire of people preferring death over enduring hardship somehow forcing Nyx to regardless.
Sounds like gamma from sonic adventure 2 in the original
I recently started playing Persona, with P3 FES. Seeing Koromaru do two thirds of Nyx's health bar in one move was absolutely surreal... That fight took me one and a half hours...
I'd say good call on playing FES recently even with Reload being a thing now. The majority would say otherwise, but FES has a number of advantages over Reload. Later down the line if you ever miss P3, give Reload a shot and it'll be a nice treat, having that you already finished the main course ;)
Great video, you brought a lot of points to the table and was a good watch, truly i hope the community creates a mod to change the background for the final boss fight
after all the last month we see EVERYTHING get greyscaled into apathy, there are almost no colors left by the end of january SO MUCH SO that even the dark hour looks devoid of color, so it makes sense for the final confrontation to take place on a barren, grey looking place
@@Brodyquester There's is actually someone working on that mod already 😊. Their name is Meovvcat on Twitter. Shame for console players like me tho lol.
I finished Reload two days ago and I really expected a second phase after defeating Nyx, she went down too fast and too easily. I was kinda dissapointed because the buildup is so cool and the game makes you think it's an impossible fight... still a cool boss nonetheless, I really enjoyed the moment
I'm glad people are at least enjoying the enjoying the moment, but yeah Atlus really shot themselves in the foot by making the fight this straightforward.
This makes me think that the 1 hour bossfight wasn't that bad
I’ve only played reload, and thought it was a little too easy. But it still left a lasting impression and is still one of my favorite final bosses.
P.S. in reload, Nyx should’ve had an ability of some sort that disables theurgy
Glad to hear that 🙏
Yeah I just felt bitter after beating him in Reload, he need SOMETHING to make him stand out.
If I had to rank all the games final bosses I'd go:
P3 > P5R > P4 > P5 > then P3R
@@ReversedJrpgs The worst final boss in the series ? damn I played FES and potable before the remake and didn't felt that was that bad aside of the difficulty
i actually like the reload voice more. its like you can feel ryoji is still in there, miserable that he has to do this to his friends and cant stop it. nyx recites the arcana line not as an evil queen but someone who knows they're doing something awful but cant stop themself. i love that dynamic so much.
makes nyx less of a black and white evil villain and more like a force of nature that doesnt wish to harm you but knows what must be done, because death IS a part of nature.
I really liked the fight in reload. i wasnt super OP, i didnt have armageddon i just went in with my team and brawled it out. i didnt die but it was def a struggle. my theurgies only got her final phase to half hp and night queen and grim trancendance were giving me some issues. eventually fuuka charged heatrisered, aigis divekick of justice won us the day. I really enjoyed it and took a massive sigh of relief after i was done. I almost cried after seeing all my social links one last time then cried at the credits because holy hell this game is so amazing
I already knew about Nyx’s infamous difficulty before playing Reload but I never got to play P3 until reload so it was my first experience actually fighting Nyx.
I REALLY do wish the fight had been a lot harder though…
Just because Nyx has like 13 health bars doesn’t necessarily make it a hard boss fight, ESPECIALLY when you can easily OHKO every single phase and not even let Nyx get a single attack in.
It’s weird though because after playing 4 Golden and 5 Royal I was CERTAIN they’d actually make the soo called “impossible” battle against Nyx feel impossible. But ironically enough, it ended up being easier than all of them and even more embarrassingly, I think I had more trouble with the Musha Squad and The Shadow of the Void in the Monad Doors…
Seeing the models side by side the reload obviously looks better but there’s something about the ps2 one she just looks a lot more overwhelming and grand
maybe better composition, if that's the right word
15:58 Bland isn’t the word I’d use, over-tuned is what I’d use. Just cause the dark hour is usually green doesn’t mean it always has to be.
i disagree, the thing is that reload is a more colorful game than the original, that doesn't make one worse or better, but reload needs to stay consistent with itself
and i still think it would be weird for the dark hour nights to always have green overshadowing it, and then that just not be the case for the final fight because it wanted to be like the original
I genuinely wished it would've been as hard as og (maybe make theurgies hurt nyx less? give back the 2 turns? make it 3?) idk, difficulty was just- not there-
Reload was my first time through P3, and nyx wasn't all that difficult, but at that point I was fairly overleveled, so it didn't concern me. I feel like P3R is much more concerned with contrast than the original, for instance, in the original the dorm is already kinda gloomy, so the january changes don't feel all that drastic, but in reload it goes from a cozy home base to somewhere I actively hate being, similarly the FES nyx fight being hard takes away from the reveal of nyx's true overwhelming nature, and the drastic measures you take to seal nyx away are much more expected.
15:43 battle takes place in mexico
reload was my first persona 3 experience and have no fear, this is one of my absolute favorite final bosses of all time, although i dont know if something could top my absolute favorite which is sekiro's final boss, i love myself some challenge, but for a game like this, honestly im fine with the difficulty it was at, it also helps that i suck at making myself op, so i was severely underpowered and it provided me with challenge that took thought (for reference i did zero special summons which means only candeza, with my best personas being thoth oberon and godamn ara mitama who i had since the beginning, and i also brough aigis mitsuru and akihiko who i believed to be my best party members and landed the final blow with aigis's second theurgy which was thematic as hell) for story and character you already know it was incredible, with the setup and anticipation being immaculate, for music i already heard the default nyx theme and was a little disappointed at first but like they are so interchangeable it doesnt matter i just listen to the triple mix on yt which is the best version to one of the best osts of all time, and for design, bias alert, green is my favorite standard color so yeah i do actually prefer the reload version, although i think the neutering of backgrounds was unfortunate, and nyx themselves holy shit this might be my favorite boss design of any game, when i first saw it emerge and saw it had a face i was really fucking worried it would be some really goofy realistic face but when the face reveal happened i actually was like damn this is uncanny as hell it looks sick, and something im upset you didnt mention is the colors of nyx's main body because they look so fucking cool, i think im just a sucker for wings and nyx delivers so hard on that front, as well as having a sick ass greatsword, as for his voice, eh i think the old version sounds too robotic, and while im not the biggest dan of some line deliveries from aleks (for example he does some weird pauses in between words like in the clip you shared) but the voice itself i have no problems with, sorry for the terrible sentence formatting i never use periods for comments like this but yeah a little extra bonus that helped this fight is that i was playing around midnight so that definitely added to it, so yeah loved it to death, man this game brings me so much joy
I'm really glad to hear you enjoyed it! wish I could experience it while underleveled lol but min maxing kinda just comes naturally to me after playing so many rpgs. Sword Saint is such a great boss oh my god, but my first time around I was just like "bro who tf is this old guy and why did he emerge from that one guys body wtf is this actually the final boss??" 0_o. Nothing bests Soul of Cinder when it comes to souls bosses for me tho.
I feel like the reason Atlus made it so easy is so that people wouldn't get so pissed off at the end to the point where they wouldn't enjoy the story. For me, I played Reload on Normal and as it was my first time ever playing a Persona game, it was a nice challenge for someone who's only other RPG is Yakuza. I feel like that's why they really want you to do New Game+ at the end, so that you can go back in and have fun at a higher difficulty since you don't really need to focus on the story anymore. I've looked at both FES' version, and Reload's versions and they both look enjoyable. I wouldn't say one is better than the other (mainly since I have only just started FES), but I feel like both have their old charm to it, and it shows how far that games has come.
I got my whole party to 99 before fighting him. I knew he was gonna be easy at that point but man.... it was like fighting a gatekeeper or something I ran through his phases like it was nothing. I didn't even want to use Armageddon on his last phase because I wanted it to be more challenging
I have to agree with the uniqueness, Persona 3 Reload was the first RPG I had enjoyed and fully completed.
I didn’t care how easy Nyx was, I genuinely enjoyed the fight and even his intro, seeing the feathers form a ball to create Nyx and seeing the Full moon is forever engrained into my mind, I have been so happy for giving Persona 3 a chance as I usually dislike RPG’s
Personally, I like Reload's Nyx Avatar fight better overall. I have not actually played the original myself, but I've watched a friend stream the whole of it, so I can say I've experienced it well enough to judge. The lack of Nyx Avatar's second action per turn is remedied by its damage output being significantly higher per hit in Reload (I did compare, though not down to the millimetre so to speak), not to mention Grim Transcendence in the final two phases letting it move like four times in that turn. Though I do admit that Reload's version is ultra-cheesable by using Theurgies, but that's not a problem with Nyx Avatar specifically.
7:23 that's one of the few things that I don't like about Reload, with so many quality of life improvement and aid for newcomer (theurgy, shift system, rewind, ect) but the dev didn't even bother to balance out the rest of the game (especially for the full moon and nyx boss fight) even in merciless difficulty most of the bosses in this game are a bit of a joke
As someone that only played reload, I still found the encounter very memorable despite how easy it was. It definitely looks like the white lighting and harder combat would have massively improved the encounter though
As someone who played reload as their first persona experience as a whole I played on easy which looking back was a mistake but stills the Nyx fight for me was stressful and very rewarding once I finished it. I played the game again on merciless (new game+) and the nyx fight even with theregy (I didn’t really use it on my first play through) was still insanely tough and while I didn’t die I came very close a couple times and that final phase made me near sh** myself a couple times
Just the other day finished Reload for the first time and honestly? I struggled more against the reaper than NYX. It's funny coming from p5r (the only other peronsa game I've played) i found Reload to be overall a decent challenge and a fair step up from p5r in difficulty...and then NYX happened, like other people said i was ready for a second phase but nope that was it. Still though I will say despite that i still had a great time with the fight and i loved the spectacle of it, it truly does feel like the stacks have never been higher.
Yeah comparatively Reload offers a slightly higher challenge than Royal does, but no where near enough. Most encounters still feel like a one sided beat down rather than a threatning scenario that requries strategic thinking. Its funny, cuz I remember beating Yaldabaoth for the first time and thinking "damn, Nyx was way better" and now Im beating Nyx in Reload and thinking "damn, wish I could fight Yaldabaoth again 🤣". Honestly, my favorite fight in the game has got to be the Hanged Man. Its got just the right amount of challenge.
The Reload voice more matches the original Japanese voice. I do agree with you that I liked the atmosphere better in the original and I wish there was a Merciless+ mode since the experience was better when Nyx beat the crap out of you. But I also understand why video games have been easing on difficulty, but I still want optimal modes that have that late 90s early 2000s difficulty curve.
As a newcomer to Persona 3 in general, aside from being spoiled for one specific story point near the end of the game. I will say I did really enjoy the Nyx bossfight, though almost purely due to memorable-ness as opposed to challenge. I found Nyx an easier boss than I thought they would be, considering how menacing they'd been built up to this point in the game, and honestly didn't have too much trouble with the boss due to my theurgies and the strageties I had employed for Nyx. The pure spectacle of fighting Death and swapping through all the arcana and trying to figure out their weaknesses throughout the 14 phases was amazing, the lead was amazing, and the cutscenes after the fight were great. While definitely seeming to lack the spectacle the original p3 games had, I never played those first, and while yeah it definitely would been preferable to have Nyx been like that for this remake, I will say what I got wasn't the worst thing in the world.
I think I like both voices from the small amount of Nyx's voice I heard from the original and the large amount I heard from Reload as I have actually played that one. I don't like the staticey effect on the original Nyx's voice though. The deep voice is enough
I am a newcomer to the franchise, my only game before Reload was 5 Royal, I got spoiled for persona 3, because I watched videos on it before the remake, and I still believe it’s the best way to play, while I was spoiled to the game, I loved how I couldn’t outrun my fate, the game was set in stone and I couldn’t change it despite knowing what was coming, it was an amazing experience, and with Nyx, HE WAS FUCKIN EASY. But I still had to use some strategy, especially when he nulled electric, which was my main element.
Yo, idk why but UA-cam hasn’t been sending me notifs for your videos. Which is sad because I always like watching your videos while I work on something or grind in P4 for the most OP build.
NYX voice just feels… unthreatening? Idk, I just don’t thing it clicked like it did in P3 and the anime’s
Hey, no worries man, I'm happy you check in regardless :). Are you new to P4? Phenomenal game, hope you enjoy it!
I’ve only played reload, and I’m disappointed in myself. My goofy ahh brain thought ‘Wouldn’t it be funny if I hit the Armageddon button and it just died instantly?’ Thinking they’d have measures in place to stop you from doing that. I tried it. I then proceeded to stare at the screen without pressing any buttons for like 5 minutes.
In your defense, if you had access to Armageddon at that point you could have ended the fight in like 2 turns. Takaya and Jin before Nyx were scripted to stop Armageddon from killing so I would have thought the same would apply to Nyx lol.
I’m a newer player to jrpgs and I have to agree with every single point in this video
I finished Persona 3 Relaod about 2 weeks ago, and I decided that on my first playthrough, i was going to fight Nyx alone and trying my absolute best to not use theurgy. Which i did and i have to say that it was a pretty difficult boss fight that took me about an hour or two, but in the final phase I realized that I was impossible and I HAD to use theurgy if I wanted to win unless i wanted to sit there for another hour. So in the final phase I used scarlet havoc to beat Nyx and I was successful, but expected it to be a bit harder since I heard that Nyx in the original could inflict you with ailments. But im not complaining. This was on hard difficulty.
This video made me so sad to realize I may suck at Jrpgs💀, Nyx in reload wooped my ass so bad. Took me like 5 tries to finally scrape a win. Though I was pretty underleved for the fight. But I enjoyed the Nyx fight a lot due to that.
Persona 3 FES was my first Persona game, and it was an amazing experience for me. I loved the game, but once I reached the final boss, I couldn't beat it no matter how many times I tried. I was beaten every time. By the end of the fight, Nyx used charm and gained full hp back again for countless times over and over again the fight was impossible for me and i have done research for the fight and learned that ı needed and item for preventing the charm issue of mine, but i didnt have an save file for going back before the fight and bought the actual item so it was impossible and kinda ruined my experience a little bit. When I learned about the remake, I was so excited and wanted to get my revenge, only to find out that the fight in the remake was a joke. Great video btw you are the first person that i saw talks about the this issue.
Thanks for watching!
Oh God, you got the worst of both experiences 😅. Now that you've experienced both though, which fight did you prefer?
You've probably grown alot since then so maybe you can get your revenge in FES still lol. Assuming u still got ur saved data.
@@ReversedJrpgs Unfortunately i was playing on emulator so my save files is gone but im definitely play the FES version again to get my revenge. Thanks for the feedback.
Eh, I'm fine with Nyx in Reload, fight wise, if only cause the FES, while my first exposure to Persona, was a bit frustrating given its length
Yeh i haven't played reload yet but one of my favorite passtimes is watching others fight against nyx blind and i was... well disappointed how people who played reload had a much easier and less threatening time compared to thos who played the original, and they were just blazing through Nyx's phases with theurgys (or straight up grinded to a high enough level to get and use Armageddon on the last phase to cheeze it or accidentally killed em expecting a 9999 damage move not to kill).
Now i don't think Nyx should have been like very overwhelmingly difficult but i do believe they shouldn't have been this easy not just for challenge sake but for the spectacle as well and appreciate how well made the fight is ... or at leest was supposed to be.
I like some of the additional stuff theey added to the fight in reload like the extra dialogue and seeing Nyx evolve and grow stronger as the fight progresses (like how their sword gets shrouded in darkness like the movie) they did Nyx so good in that regard, but all in all failed to replicate challenge of the original which in turn (imo) hurts the spectacle, feeling of desperation, and seriousness of the fight.
This vid was well put together nice work on it btw
I only played reload, your points are correct, but I still liked it, but definitely played smth like this before. I wanna play og persona 3 but currently playing 2, is og worth touching at all or straight FES?
Nah don't bother with OG. FES is basically the same game, they just added costumes, Orpheus Telos, New music for Tartarus, the Aigis SL and they moved Tanakas SL to night time. Plus u get The Answer 👍.
accidentally presssed on this video, i do not regret every second of it (good video by the way)
"There are no accidents" -
Master Oogway ☝️
Thanks for watching! 😊
I think new Nyx sounds better, they just needed to make his voice a little bit deeper in the editing.
I am probably the only one was hoping for Nyx to use all arcana during the fight as I wanted it to feel like a battle where no matter how many times you beat down Nyx he simply recovers and uses a new approach, with the final one being the Death Arcana.
I thought it was very fun...even though I enjoyed the combat in Tartarus so much that I had a Level 96 Satanus with no weaknesses and very deadly abilities to give you a vague idea. In other words, accidentally overleveled.
I do find it weird that they kept the ability for the Reaper to have multi-action turns.
I absolutely love Persona 3 Reload and am a fan of Atlas now and want to Platinum Persona 3 Reload on PS5. I think the only games that I managed to Platinum were Sonic Frontiers and The Order 1886 with latter having a very criminally underrated story. I have completed a lot of games on PS4 and PS5, just never Platinum'd.
I have also started playing Persona 4 Golden for the first time and am enjoying it; however, I would be lying if I said I did not crave the more strategic yet faster paced combat of Persona 3 Reload.
That's another thing I think we should address, the fact that it's really easy to accidentally get overpowered in this game without even having to grind.
Reloads platinum isn't that hard so definitely go for it 👌
Hope you have fun with P4G, it's an incredible game! Be extra careful of spoilers online with this one though.
atlus needs to stop making modern persona so god damn easy ;-;
also, despite the visuals being objectively better technically, the green light just does not work :(
Yeah, my thoughts exactly.
Artistic expression will always be a higher priority over graphical fidelity.
@@ReversedJrpgs *cough* silent hill
I think I’m fine with it because at least I won’t get stuck on the boss like what happened to me in a 3DS RPG game
@@RavenGamingOverLord smt 4 got your ass?
@@RavenGamingOverLord I can understand that, but that's what easy mode is for. Atlus should at least make Hard mode....Hard 😂.
I played portable on my switch first and honestly by the time I got to nyx I wasn't having fun granted it didn't help I went backwards from five and I thought the game really needed a remake so I ended up enjoying reload nyx more than the original I know that might make some people mad but that's how I felt my first time through portable I will say nyx is still very creepy in both versions I mean look at that face
I do feel like a lot of the complaints you have are nostalgia bias, mostly with the voice. The og voice is iconic, but the new one feels more…real, I guess, there’s probably a better way to describe it. It also feels more like Ryoji which is nice.
And also I don’t know if anyone else agrees with me on this but I actually really like the green during the fight. Maybe it’ll just bc the og was on the ps2 and if they kept the white/black colors in Reload they could have made it look better, but I feel like Nyx stands out a lot more against the green. As I write this I do feel more like maybe the white could have worked with newer graphics but showing me the two of them side by side didn’t help your case in my opinion.
Unfortunately yeah, the fight was pretty easy. Personally I never found the og fight (well Portable’s fight in my case but whatever) to be that difficult but the length of the final phase was a bit anticlimactic. When I got there in Reload I figured it was due to me being like ten levels overleveled, which I still do think is part of it. I think unfortunately Atlus isn’t going to make a persona final boss that’s actually difficult so Reload’s Nyx difficulty was largely affected by that. In fairness, the fight is quite lengthy regardless of this so I kinda get it but the least they could do is make the late game fights significantly tougher on higher difficulties.
P3 Reload is my first Persona game, I had NO idea of the story, and overall it was a really cool fight!
Until, yeah, I was on for the spectacle and really thought it wouldn't work so I did Armagedon for fun on the last phase
It did look great, but it did also feel like it shouldn't have worked at all, like it makes Nyx lose so much presence and pressure
Actually, Nyx can trigger a skill that let's em go multiple times.
What you technically have to do is fight slowly
Yup, it's the skill he copies from the hanged man. It's still kinda lame how it isn't the default number of turns tho.
@@ReversedJrpgs
Eh, Probably changed it because new players thought it took to long in the original.
In away, you have to simply fight Nyx slowly to draw out the fight or better yet don't use any debuff skills on Nyx
@@shelbybayer200 when I saw the initial phases I assumed that they made the previous 12 phases easier so that people didn't have to spend a bunch of time on it while slowly ramping things up until the death arcana . Thats where things would go in full swing with Nyx having two press turns always
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I mean, my first playthrough of Reload it felt like Death Arcana Nyx did use the Extra turn skill more than the earlier Arcana
My fav final boss in rpg or any is the boss snurp because it's hard and fun this might beat it
This is the first video of yours I’ve seen. I can’t believe UA-cam hasn’t recommended you before this!
You da man 👊😊
My first and only P3 experience was P3 portable. I absolutely loved the tension this game was building up the entire time and I can't stress this enough how unique the experience of this game was. I was constantly curious what would happen next to the extent that I worried that the game couldn't get any better or emotional, but it always did. Sadly, the Nyx battle was not as fascinating for me as you make it sound. Everything you say is obviously true, but what kinda ruined the experience for me was the tediousness of Tartarus (I also should say that I played the game on easy difficulty because I heard that jRPG's are really difficult and I never played any before). The late stages of the game, which for me consisted of pretty much just grinding, were so unenjoyable. I grinded so much because it was constantly stressed that the battle was pretty much impossible to win and I ended up over-prepared. I know I chose the easy difficulty, but for example Margaret's challenges were way harder than the entire Nyx fight (this could be because these challenges aren't mandatory unlike the main boss, but I still think it shouldn't be this way). Also, during the battle, I kinda counted Nyx as just another level of Tartarus instead of a final part of the game. I was obviously hyped as hell but it didn't hit as much as it was supposed to. Nevertheless I'm glad to hear that the whole thing looks different on harder difficulties because I'll be replaying the game anyway.
Sorry for the long comment : )
Thanks for sharing. Yeah I can definitely see this fight not being for everyone. An hour long encounter can either be interpreted positively as being Epic or Negatively as being a slog fest. The same can be said about exploring a 264 floor long tower lol.
Pretty sure Portables version of Nyx was also changed for the worse, not as bad as Reloads tho, but it's been a while so I can't really comment on him there.
Since I you're new to JRPGs, I will say that while Grinding is an option, Persona games don't really encourage it. If you're planning on playing the game again, my tip is avoid grinding and spend some time in the velvet room if you get stuck on a boss or something. Way more fun. Trust me ;).
@@ReversedJrpgs It's not as much about the length of the fight, but about the fact that I could beat her stage in like 3-4 turns and she then dealt me 60 damage : /. But I'm probably complaining that the game I set on easy was actually easy.
And thanks for the tip! I totally won't be going through the whole grind again. I think I ended up with only like 50% of persona compendium completed and now I kinda see it as a wasted potential :)
I only played reload and i fought NYX after spending 10 hours trying to beat 'liz (dont mock me I'm bad and didn't look tuto so i had to figure out all the rules of the fight) so i was super sad that i one shotted every phases, he couldn't even attack....The setup was fine and the last phase was super cool + the cutscene were insane. I think it is a great boss that just has a bad fight. Maybe i shouldn't have done liz prior to the fight because it is the real challenge or whatever... i think overall P3 has some bad scaling IMO 'liz is stupidly hard and NYX stupidly easy, some moon bosses had enormous amount of hp and so pour damage that it was just annoying and repetitive (I loved the game tho its one of my fav, no games are perfect even elden ring has those problems).
Lol don't sweat it, Liz is a nightmare to figure out. A perfect example of hard not equaling fun. She was originally made to be fought in NG+ so they definitely weren't expecting someone to beat her then fight Nyx for the first time lol. But then again, trust me, whether u beat Liz or not, Nyx in this game is a complete pushover. The recent persona games since P5 have all had problems with consistent difficulty scaling, hoping Atlus gets their shit together by P6.
Oh- so I didn’t overlevel but killing the Reaper
In my opinion, even though it was my first time playing persona 3 as a whole. I honestly was more upset that they didn’t use 2d animation for nyx’s intro since I’ve watched some p3f videos before. And honestly I feel like 2d animation for most of the cutscenes would have just made the game better honestly. Not saying that the 3d animation is bad but I just prefer the 2d animations more.
Truee. I at least wanted scenes that were originally 2d to stay that way and have the 3d pre rendered animations to replace some other scenes like they did for chidoris death scene for example.
6:44 You’re not doin’ a good job of convincing me considering you JUST SAID you find it easier due to all the experience you have with these games, I’l wait for proper elaboration.
Yup, keep going 👌
@@ReversedJrpgs theurgy was the major problem was what I got from that part.
The problem I have with you thinking Nyx is too easy is that you played a lot of other SMT games. You even said that they made the original Nyx seem easier when you went back to that game.
Reload is rebalanced to make things way more convenient for the average player so the boss that you already said that you found to be not so bad after other smt games was made easier in the new release. So, even if the difficulty is adjusted, you found it too easy because you have played a lot of these games.
And, a boss designed like Nyx with all those phases and no checkpoints, would be more annoying to me than fun if Nyx was harder to fight.
I only played reload and a little of portable. Imo i thought the idea and execution was good. I ruined my own experience by being 99 so i wish i didn’t take that month of preparation too seriously 😭
I don't think your reaction comparison works, those are three completely different streamers. I am sure I could search around and find the opposite to those reactions for the same fights. People who think Persona 3 (original) is too easy and finding a completley different streamer who thinks Reload is too hard.
Yeah I'm just pointing out the common reactions. I made sure to choose streamers who have already played Personas 4 and 5 before playing 3, and who are not new to rpgs. That way, being familiar with persona mechanics won't play a factor.
Reload nyx sound like urizen
I just went back and listened to Urizen, Goddamn you're spot on!
it was honestly very underwhelming difficuly wise i stuggled quite heavily against literally every other boss but i kinda just ran through nyx without even trying that much the music and dialogue was cool though
Persona 3 reload is just too easy. Even with the memento mori re balance mod which makes the game harder it wasn't on the same level as fes because of the theurgy they are just to overpowered.
I wish nyx fucked with you and got to your head a bit more. He’s death, yet despite playing on hard, he’s barely do any major scary damage. The fight felt long but not long and good. Just dragging on. The story was so great but honestly the waste of a buildup felt very killer in terms of my enjoyment in the game.
13:09 "Original" voice - uses an English dub. Lol that's not original, Japanese VO should be considered original. Or are you gonna call YongYea butchered version of Star Arcana original too?
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I literally just said seconds before this that it's more accurate to how Nyx sounds in Japanese. Obviously, yes that's the original. I meant original dub if u really wanna be a smartass about it lol.
I thought Yong yeas voice for Mamoru was fine honestly. He doesn't work for Kiryu but that doesn't mean he's bad in other roles. Plus Mamoru wasn't voiced in the OG so I don't really get what u mean?
This comment has some heavy “erm actually” energy from it.
I’m not one to speak, but Your being incredibly rude to a smaller UA-camr who puts a lot of effort into his videos. It’s incredibly obvious he didn’t mean the Japanese version, your being, as he said, a complete smartass.
@@ReversedJrpgsfelt the same way about this comment. I’m genuinely convinced some people can’t read a room
14:40 OVERRATED! My goodness I love the song but it ISN’T *THAT* GOOD!
I will not have you utter such blasphemy in my comment section like bruh 😂
Nut uh