THE TRADITIONAL BLACK POWDER HUNTING POUCH
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- Опубліковано 2 січ 2020
- New to traditional black powder shooting and want to know what to carry in your hunting pouch, and what to leave at home?
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I don't care if you are new to this sport and just getting started or an old hand at it from way back. This is a great video series that we all can gain from. Can't wait for the next one.
Thanks Mike!
been doing this for over 35 yrs and I m really liking this channel
Thanks for the kind words Steve!
Bob ,just found your channel thanks to Mark at BPM shooter. Really like having another source of information on our great hobby. I believe that a student can never have to many teachers. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience.
That's awesome! That was really nice of Mark to give me a shout out. I texted him right away and thanked him. Very generous guy! You're welcome and thank you!
I have never needed to use a pan brush even though I carried one for ages, I've never used my oiler, my spare short starter, bag mould etc.. Keep it simple, as you say. Great video, thanks.
When shooting in N-SSA matches I always go to the line with a few extra items that most competitors don't. We have a rule that if your gun fouls out or fails to fire, you can only use items with you or your team mates brought to the line. I keep a nipple pick ran down through the threading of of my cap pouch, along with a few screw on attachments that fit my ram rod end that I threaded a while back to include a patch puller and breech face scraper. I also keep a small pan primer with FFFg and nipple wrench/ flathead screw driver to be able to place some FFFFg in the flash channel to help the percussion cap on a slightly dampened main charge in case someone forgot to completely dry out their bore before hand and the snapping caps didn't do the job. Last but not least, I carry either a multi tool or a pair of needle nose pliers somewhere on me, especially during carbine matches, in case a knife or pair of pliers are needed to remove a stuck smith or maynard case or whatever might be needed. My hunting setup is very similar depending on which gun I carry afield. My Brown Bess possibles bag includes very little since I generally use a shooting block to carry my extra .690 round balls but rarely need them because I make up paper cartridges for both my buck and ball loads and my bird shot loads.
My cartridges are made up by forming a cylinder that is about .705 dia and glue up one end flat. After it dried I place it in a hole I made in a block of of 2x4 that has a .710 hole in it. I place my over shot wad in the bottom, then either 4 0000 buckshot with enough filler of grits to fill the gaps in, or just place my load of bird shot in. Continuing on my buck and ball load, I then place my pre lubed with hard beeswax lube, .690 round ball in. I fill the sides in with filler until the ball is just barely visible and then place a 1/4 cork wad with just a touch of glue to keep the powder and shot seperate. My bird shot rounds get 2 cork wads and then both get a final over shot wad before I put in my powder which is usually around 50 to 90 gr of FFFg or a charge of 60 to 100 gr of FFg depending on what I have handy. I then tap the powder down to get it as level and compacted as possible, then fold the rest of the tube in a fashion that makes a tail then glued down after folding it down back on itself to have the tail run up the side of the rest of the cartridge. I often forego the over powder wads because when I open the cartridge to drop the powder, the remaining paper from the cartridge is just shoved down the bore and acts like an over shot wad instead. I have in the past made up just round ball cartridges using a naked ball pled on top of a pre lubed 1/2 inch felt wad and emptied the cartridge down the bore and then shoved the entire empty cartridge down the bore to act as an over shot wad.
I've been shooting for 40 years I'm worth more from you than I get 40 years thank you for what you do I love your rifle someday I will flint lock
This is earned wisdom I wish this guy lived next door, refreshing to see someone normal that gets it.
Thanks COR! I grew up doing week long + hunts in Alaska, and was an 0311 in the Marine Corps. I earned this knowledge in the field the way our ancestors did. Not having something you might need, but can field expedient a work around, is much better than the blisters you’ll pick up by carrying it! Have a great weekend!
@@BlackPowderTV I was a 7051 and my offspring is a 0351 and you are invited to the Joe Walker rondy in April, please think about coming it is a good time and a fun shoot.
2020 was canceled because of the kung flu but 2021 should be a good year.
Makes sense. Thanks!
I feel attacked in likely the best way possible. Excellent vid!
Lol. Thanks Modyer!
New subscriber, getting spun up on what I need to know about traditional muzzle loading. This channel has been an awesome resource!
Great content!! Just what i needed as i am a minimalist like no other.
Excellent video
Thanks enjoyed your video you were easy to understand and right to the point. Looking forward to watching your other video's , thanks again
"balls, patches, powder... maybe some beef jerky..."
Pipe and a small tin of tobacco too. Lol
Yep, I have a tobacco horn and a pipe i puff on regularly between tugs at the Jerky!
I like yer style!
That was very informative!
I like your style Bob!
Great stuff mate
Awesome stuff right there! Thanks for the info.
If I would make a hunting bag This would be it (for deer or moose): small powder horn (3-4 shots), caps, some roundballs, pre greased patches, Powder measure, a ball starter and a knife.
Thanks for the great videos! Great to see a no-nonsense take on what's needed and what can be kept back at camp or in the truck for a newbie.
Thanks brother! I appreciate it!
you started out with more stuff than i have in my shop. Very good information thanks.
Bunk Stagner I loaded on everything I could. Funny thing is, I’ve seen folks duded up just like that. Thanks for the comment. It means a lot.
Great advice.
This is the kind of video I was looking for. Getting back into this hobby and needed a refresher course on what I needed. Photography and sound excellent. Looking forward to watching many more of your vids.
Pennsylvania Citizen Thanks! Feel free to check in at bob@blackpowdertv.com if you have any questions and go check out the American Longrifle Forum. I’m there every day as are tons of other serious shooters, builders, and experts in everything longrifle!
Good information
Well said
This is fantastic. I've been working on details to make my own shooting bag and your insight has shown I need to rethink what I'm going to make. Smaller and more compact. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks Mark! It really makes a difference to slim down to just what you need to shoot plus a few loose things in the bottom to maintain your gun!
Like any other endeavor ...new guys don’t know but shops n on line will sell em everything. Takes time to set up for what ya need . All that extra stuff looks cool in my gun room
Couldn't agree more.👍🏻
Great information and well presented
Thanks James!
Great video! I'm glad I clicked on your video the other day.
Thanks! I appreciate it!
Your videos always teach me something new. My new lock for my Dixie Tennessee Mountain rifle arrives this Monday. So looking forward to making smoke again.
Thanks! Get making smoke!
I just got a Traditions Firearms Deer Hunter percussion sidelock muzzleloader and will be using conical type projectiles like the T/C maxi hunter or Hornady Great Plains hunter bullet and plan on keeping the powder and bullet left over night for the morning hunt but of course I'll keep the percussion cap off until I get to my stand
Thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching!
For my inline muzzleloader in my possibles bag I carry the following while deer hunting. 2 or 3 reloads, small 209 primer holder/loader, a small amount of cleaning patches, a T handle bullet starter and my gutting knife. I have always wondered if I needed more. It looks like I don't even need to worry about a ratchet wrench for my breach plug and Allen wrench & punch to take my gun down with me. It looks like I need a smaller bag. What I need to down load is my day pack.
Very informative video. You presented this topic well, especially with that opening scenario! I agree with your style shooting and practice your methods myself. I don't even own a shooting box. I leave all the non-essentials accessories in the truck or at home. Well done Bobby. Looking forward to your future projects.
Thanks BPMS!
I like this and it helps a lot I have 2 50 cal muzzle loaders one is an inline and the other is a cap-n-ball side lock that I am in the process of making a shooting bag for with a 3 inch gusset to accomedate the size of my powder flask. I have a powder measure and three quick loads but I am looking for a small oiler for the lock where can I find one? I use a simple multi tool from Wal-Mart it has all the screw drivers I need to pull the lock if needed for a few drops of oil or cleaning plus adjust my sights if needed.
I'm really digging that patch knife! Any info on the maker or where you got it? My shooting pouch is filled VERY similar to yours personally. I use an old straight razor that had about 1/4 inch chipped off the end of the blade for my patches. I ground it back mostly straight and added just a very small point for poking. It works very well for my purposes. Your patch knife just looks great though. All good advice here and you confirmed all the little tricks I learned over years of shooting. I started out with a backpack for my supplies 😆. That got old quick. After 2 or 3 trips into the woods I was down to bare bones, just what I NEED. I'm subbed for more. That was an absolutely beautiful squirrel rifle you showed as well! Thanks for the well presented and informative video!
Just thinned out my bag. Now I see a “need” for that haversack I saw online!
Great vid man solid information. I keep bare minimum, square tin hold my lubed patches, balls hang loose in the pocket, another small tin holds my cleaning bits, a small pack of alcohol swabs for cleaning the barrel out. I prime from my main charge, I carry only one horn. A little tip I picked up from Mike Belivue on here the swabs you can score from wally they are used to clean injection sites for needles. Works wonders and portable, lightweight. Let's see that smoothie@!!
I saw Mike's video on the alcohol swabs too, and thought it was a great tip! It's been raining for a week straight but the Kettenburg smoothbore is itching to be the first out of the gate! Thanks!
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Shucks, wish I'd seen this video a month ago. Wouldn't have bought all the cool stuff I thought I needed. Pedersoli PA Long Rifle 50 cal to start with. Thanks for the knowledge! Love the channel!
Stephen Corson lol! Thanks for the kind words!
New to the channel, new to BP. I was looking at a couple military surplus bags of mine 30 minutes ago debating why not to choose the big one. This really helps. Thing is, I need to go for an even smaller one.
May I ask where you got the strap for your bag?
I had to sub, all the information is what I am needing.
Thanks, John.
As a guy with an overstuffed shooting bag, this was good for me. Incidentally I heard barrel coning mentioned as a way of dropping the short starter. I would love to see a coning video.
Glad it helped! It doesn't really take much. A coning vid is in the works! Thanks!
@@BlackPowderTV Oh, excellent! I have the tools to cone a barrel, but have been apprehensive about trying it myself.
I like this video on down sizing the amount of things to carry I am in the process of making my own style of possibles shooting bag from leather and other materials I have the leather and habe made the shoulder strap but I am making it with a 3 inch gusset. And I am wanting to line it with florsent orange ripstop material I have fabric adhesive to glue it on the inside of the parts of the bag befor sewing together also sewing in some elastic loops to keep most things organised but I am having trouble figuring out how to cut a beaver tail top flap I am a firm believer in repurposing different things when ever possible I am making this bag for deer hunting with .50 cal muzzle loader cap-n-ball. Can you help me out with a video on how to cut a beaver tail flap for the top of the bag?
First rate. The only thing I add is a small first aid kit which has some band-aids, triple antibiotic ointment, gauze, med tape, alcohol wipes, visine. It's very small but helps if you cut yourself etc. Keep up the good work. Thank you
Awesome suggestion and a smart kit to have on hand! Thanks Rich!
I just got started in the flintlock game, these videos are very helpful, thank you!
Very well done! Enjoyed this. I remember when I first started and it didn't take long to weed out the nonessentials thru trial and error.
Keep them coming ……… Big John
Thanks Big John!
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Very sound advice for the newbies, thank you on their behalf. When I hunted BP, I could have basically, carried all my shooting supplies (sans my powder horn) in my pocket? I am, and always have been, very minimalist. You don't need a sporting goods store on your body to shoot and hunt with BP.
I'm finding your videos very interesting, informative, and entertaining, thank you. I look forward to speaking with you occasionally on the ALR's website.
I look forward to your future videos.
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Stoney327 Thanks 2f! I dont carry a thing I don’t have to. I’m sure our forebears didn’t either. Talk to you soon!
Well this video hit close to home lol! I have been in the process of getting down to the bare minimum, I feel like you look at the beginning! Still trying to find just the right pouch though. Where did you get the oil container? I really like the small size of that!
Good job. I met you I believe with Mark Humphries at Primitive area in Friendship. Good informative video. My hunting pouch is very similar.
Steven Bowen Hey thanks Steve! Yep I remember. I just texted Mark to see if that was you because I recognized your name on the comment . You need to make a few more videos with Mark with that purty Tip Curtis Smoothbore!
But..but...but...I like my big bag with a million pockets!
Great information. Been shooting back powder for years, and it never occurred to me to keep a small oil bottle in my pouch. But it makes sense. You always learn something new.
I'll say that for my own preferences, a larger bag with some extra pockets makes organization easier, in part so I can get my hand in there without fumbling around too much. But even so, it's all about keeping things simpler. More stuff can be fun, but there is a balance, and you illustrated that beautifully.
Thanks! I appreciate the comment! I keep the oil in my bag as living in Alaska and doing yearly 2-3 week Yukon River hunts ground into my brain to always have a bit of oil on hand! Thanks again!
@@BlackPowderTV, I thought you were in Tennessee. But I can definitely see where a little extra oil would be handy for a long hunt in Alaska.
I am in Tennessee now but I was an old country boy who grew up sort of half off-grid in Alaska....
What is a good oil for black powder weapons?? I have read that you need to stay away from "modern" oils. Keep making your awesome videos :) :)
Balls, patches, cleaning jigs, pre soaked patches for swabbing in between shots, short starter, spare flints and leather, powder horn. Sounds like a lot but it's really not as most of this stuff is small. My cigar is the biggest thing.
Yes sir!
really like your videos, i live in connecticut and am wondering where you purchase your supplies?? also where did you get your hat?? i really like it!!, i am learning a lot from you, and want to get my first flintlock, i have a traditions kentucky percussion , and pietta navy, they are a lot of fun, thanks and look forward to your next video!!
Thanks! Trackofthewolf.com is where I buy most of my supplies. 👍🏻
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Where could you find the ball starter, patching material and the oil container/vial
Soon as I got to 1:35 I knew what this video was about lol don't worry soon as they go in the woods they'll know what you're talkin about.
Lol, looks just like the POG's that would get attached to our Infantry platoon so they could earn a CAB, every whizbang cool guy operator item money could buy.
I'm toting a possibles bag everywhere, fire kit, stainless steel canteen/bottle, emergency blanket, knife, and some kind of cordage for ANY expedition in an outdoors environment, but a decent sized belt pouch holds that, plus your cleaning stuff.
Oh and I subscribed too!
Awesome! Thanks!
Can you advise the make of the knife please?
Hello!
We love learning from your videos. Your possibles bag is amazing, the way you can see the contents. Where can we buy this bag? 1000 thanks for all you do!!
Thanks so much! My bags are handmade in the traditional way. I buy most of them from the Contemporary Longrifle Association website and Facebook. They are wonderful artisans!
I went on to make my own possibles pouch and now on my way to start my long flint lock experience thank you so much for this tutorial I wish I could post pictures for you to see what my set up looks like just from watching this video thanks again you rock!!
Awesome! I love to see different rigs so feel free to send it over at bob@blackpowdertv.com!
Was that the Standard maple stock?
Great possibles bag. Can you share where you bought it?
It was made by Eric Ewing of Ewing’s Creek Pouches and Accoutrements. He makes handmade stuff in the traditional manner. Cool guy. 👍🏻
But I am working on finding a proper size for my shooting bag don't want to be to heavey any ideas
Man I'd love to get started but I can't find a gun that's under 1000 bucks. I dont know what to buy, but I do want a flint lock.
What kind of hooks you using on your wall for hanging up the guns? Looks great by the way.
A local blacksmith made them for me. 👍🏻
Sir I did a veg tan bag with a 3 inch gusset but I added African wildebeest fur on, with tail on strap wooden button closure . I need to get a photo out of it
I’d love to see a pic! Sounds awesome!
caps for them folks that use percussion guns
Can you link your rifle please?
Love it, Keep It Simple Stupid,(KISS) the guide for my life, lol
Mine too!
Water. I'm in the south.
Amen to that.
Where can I get a possibles bag. I’ve been shooting off the table
Michael, I’d look at the for sale section of Americalongrifles.org or on the muzzleloading forum. Many nice bags for sale in both. Americanlongrifles members make lots of handmade bags in all price ranges and offer them for sale there. 👍🏻
Great video, where can I found a hunting pouch like this one at 00:41 ?
Alexis Lisiak Thanks! That one was made by a CLA artist, I’ll get you their names when I get to the house this evening. I’m sure their last name is ‘Gier’. They can be found on the Contemporary Longrifle Association website and Facebook. Handmade/stitched from bark tan leather based on an original.
@@BlackPowderTV Thank you for the quick response sir, are they shipping in Europe ?
I’m pretty sure they do. Most CLA artists ship worldwide.
@@BlackPowderTV That would be great, I've been searching for months for this very specific purse but could'nt find it, and just found out the CLA yesterday and it's like finding the El Dorado
Where did you get that pouch? Or even the strap that goes with it?
Hey Deli, most of my bags and stuff are handmade by CLA artists. Check out the Contemporary Longrifle Association website and Facebook. Also most of them hang out and sell stuff on the American Longrifle Forum.
@@BlackPowderTV thank you!
Where do you buy toe?
Hey William, I buy mine from brojohannes on eBay. 👍🏻
Forgot your knife hawk
This is great advice. let's take it a little further. In the period if one has a rifle OR a fowler, that was it. Why do we own 4 rifles 3 smoothbores, ten horns 8 bags etc...? Just sayin.
Right you are. 👍🏻
Hello sir. I am new to shooting and I have a question. Do you shoot the same powder that is used for priming? Is that fffp? Does pyrodex work? Thank you!
Hello! I use ffg or fffg for shooting and ffffg or 0b (which is very fine like dust) for priming. Pyrodex works ok for percussion guns but not so well on flintlocks. Watch my ‘new shooter series’ for more info on that. Feel free to ask any questions at all! Thanks!
@@BlackPowderTV yes sir! I've been watching and learning a lot. I do have another quick question. I'd like a Kentucky long rifle but would also like to use loose shot. Is loading a rifle with shot an okay thing to do?
messy shop videos You don’t want to shoot shot from a rifled gun. As the shot is fired the rifling acts as a file sheering lead from the shot as it flies down the barrel, fouling your rifling and bouncing the shot all over the place. I’d get a Smoothbore. Accurate to 50 yards with ball as well as able to shoot shot.
@@BlackPowderTV okay. Bummer. Thanks for that info.
Kept most everything I needed in a bag about the size of a clutch. If you do not know what a clutch is, look up women’s purses. Since I went to black powder revolvers, I keep most everything I need in an old Maxwell House coffee tin. The contents: 2 pounds of powder, a tin of percussion caps, a bore brush, pencil, small knife, nipple wrench with pic, cloths pen, 3 percussion cap loaders, medicine bottle full of slugs, spare nipples, and a tablet of paper. Can substitute a jar of bore butter for 1 pound of powder if needed, or just use an old purse with pockets if I need more space.
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ARE YOU GOING SHOOTING FOR THE SUMMER ? HOW SILLY. YOU DONT NEED ALL THAT CRAP TO GO SHOOTING.