KNAPPING THE FLINT + SLO-MO OF THE NEW KIBLER ROUND FACE ENGLISH FLINT LOCK
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- Опубліковано 29 січ 2020
- HOW TO KNAP THE FLINT ON YOUR FLINTLOCK BLACK POWDER FIREARM PLUS A SLOW-MOTION DEMONSTRATION OF THE DEGRADATION OF THE FLINT EDGE.
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Outstanding instructions on how to nap the flint. No 1 Channel on flintlock for newbies.
Great example of "dulling" a flint. I LOVED that idea. 40+ strikes means you had one awesome flint. Thanks for getting us "up close"..excellent work my friend. Well done.
Thanks Mark! I think it was a combo of a really good piece of flint and a really well put together lock!
Thats also a testament to how good Kiblers locks are...that thing throws a great spark!
flint lock Man, that’s the truth, one of those slow motion shots about shot #30 looked like an oxy-acetylene torch. Jim has that lock dialed in for sure. I was shocked it took 40 or so strikes to get a reasonable place to stop! I had the feeling I could have ran 60 shots with only 1-2 misfires towards the end. Unreal. I’m excited I bought it for my next winter’s Smoothbore build.
Another fun watch. I use that same style brass hammer to knap mine, always have it handy in my pouch. Keep up the great content, you're already among the best black powder channels on UA-cam!
Kyle Sondergaard Thanks Kyle, that’s high praise! I appreciate it!
I wondered about that! Thank you very much . I'm going to go look at some flintlock now . Maybe in time for deer season ?
Good ad for Kibler locks (IMPRESSIVE LOCK)
Very impressive lock at a great price point. I have several and have been very impressed. Thanks!
Miss your videos
👍 excellent, thank you!
Man that thing still had a lot of spark after 40 shots. My Pete Allan lock starts getting iffy at about 12 to 15 shots. I have an older small Siler lock that lasts 20 to 25 and my Pedersoli lock is lucky to make it 8 to 10. I'm impressed. I have one of those hammers like that and try your method next time I shoot. Great video.
Yea, Jim knows how to build a lock. Heck, he's one of the best longrifle builders in the world, he should. A good lock that doesn't hurt the flint too much combined with a great piece of flint makes for lots of shootin twixt knappins....
Great video 'ol buddy. Keep them coming.
Mike McGuire Thanks my friend! I’ve got a cold so I was hardly coherent but I thought seeing the Kibler spark was worth my rambling!
Well done thanks for posting.
Vince Woolley Thanks Vince! I appreciate it!
Great information., Thanks for posting.
Thanks Kurt!
Great video, keep them coming. Good information.
Mike Ross Thanks Mike!
Thanks so much for that I was wondering how much till the flint cut out
I use small hand forged iron pliers and it works very well. I like it better than the hammer. I saw some guys using regular pliers at the range. Good video for the beginners. Thanks
Yep, I see how that would work fine. I often use whatever is on hand which is usually the butt or topside of the blade of my knife. Thanks!
So i wamt to ask as i guess i was told wrong. I have the same hammer you so and have sharpened my dlints a couple times to good success it seems. I was told to use the pointed side of the brass hammer and strike edge to edge. Like two swords. That way you end up creating small circular like saw teeth in the flint as you go across the edge. Have you ever heard of anyone doing it this way? Its worked for me although it doesnt take off too much material and actually seems to ding up the edged side of the hammer but what are your thought's?
Lets knapp this!
(Proceeds to wildly hit the stone)
Yay sparks!
Lol.
Good stuff!🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Thanks!
My Pedersoli Brown Bess lock that is brand new doesn’t seem to perform like this at all. It came with what seems
Like an amber flint and I could never get that many shots out of it. Within probably ten it was completely chilled out and I can’t really knap it because the flint is really short and there is no edge at all. I’m Also seeing some
Gouging in the frizzen. Not feeling too good.
I have a pedersoli queen anne that works great but the French blond flints pedersoli uses aren't the best. You need to go on track of the wolf and buy the tom fuller black English flints and jaw pads. Then cut the pad down to size and superglue the top and bottom of the flint to the pad. Lock it down in the lock so that it is straight on with the frizzen at a slight downward angle. You might notice pedersolis don't have much space between the firizen and flint at halfock and thst ok just move it back a hairs worth so it's not touching at a halfcock but still far enough up that it throws the frizzen open all the way. You can test this by moving the flint back u till the firzzen fails to pop open all the way and then moving it up a bit. This will let you know where your sweet spot is. Also with my queen anne and brown bess pedersoli sent them wrapped in lead with a cutout for the jaw screw but even with thick locks like these over time rhe extra weight of lead will potentially snap your neck off. I take the English flints after I've glued the jaw pads and take a knife and cut a v shape in the back of the leather then I round it off by removing enough material that it fits. You don't want to see flint or go more than about halfway through the leather. Ideally your jaws should hold your flint tight enough that it never hits the screw but if it does you have that leather there for cushioning.
I also have hollow ground screwdrivers I use to tighten down the jaws before firing.
Hope any of this helps you
Also I'm unsure what you mean by gouging but the way frizens work is the sharp flint scrapes off a thin microscopic layer of iron from the steal and when it oxidized it makes sparks. So it is not the flint creating the sparks it's the firzzen having material removed from it. All frizzens are going to look scratched and beaten on the face even after a few shots. This is normal and not a concern and if you fire 1000 rounds you have even more scratching to come! But it is a non issues. Only later down the road after 2000 rounds or so if you start to have ignition issues do people usually reface or replace the frizzen
This was eye-opening! I've been doing Rev War reenacting for over 15 years and I'm lucky if I get a half dozen shots off before my flint starts to act up. I think I am positioning the flint correctly but, maybe I need to take the lock to be tuned?
Great video. If the flint gets too short, could you put a spacer like a piece of wood between the flint and the top jaw screw to really maximize your flint life?
If the jaws will still hold the flint absolutely. 👍🏻
Thanks
I have to ask how are u getting so much spark!? I just got into a pendersoli Kentucky as my first flinter fir reenacting but it does not spark anywhere near as much as that!?!?
A custom better lock!
Yep. Custom locks from Chambers, Kibler, and others are built like very high end originals and are far superior to factory made stuff. Most factory guns do however have a custom lock that is close enough to be fit by a traditional gunsmith and will improve your Pedersoli dramatically. 👍🏻
Hi sir,I have my grandfathers rifle and I was wondering if I sent an email you might be able to help me identify the rifle.
Thank you! Just started getting into flintlocking. A lot of fun and interesting. Missed a nice deer yesterday because of this. Great video and thanks again! Also could someone tell me the best way to prime the frozen pan. I think I was overfilling it causing hangfires.
Hey David. Typically overfilling will cause it to hang a bit but not always. I'm not sure what you mean by 'prime the frozen pan'. Reply and I'll answer the best I can. Thanks brother!
Sorry- frizzen pan!
@@davidmedeiros2856 I use a separate small priming horn with 4f or 0B in it when using 1f or 2f for the main charge but it’s still hard to control the flow of powder. Many guys I know put their finger over the hole and let a little out at a time until they have the right amount. I usually pour and if I over fill I just wipe it out until I’m happy with how much is in here. You can also use a plunger type primer that only puts out 1g-2g per push. A few pushes and you’re good. It’s really sort of an acquired skill based on how big the hole is on your horn.
Thank you!
This took me some trial and error to learn, but now I've tried some of the machine-cut white flints that I think you're supposed to sharpen using a wet stone on the flat side of the "flint" until you've thinned it up enough to get the dings out of it. Do you have any experience with the machine cut "flints"? Some say they're great, some say never use them, but I find they last a long time and because the edge is machined so straight, they seem to be easier on my frizzen than natural flints that have a more jagged edge, no matter how carefully I knap them.
I've never used them. I'm sort of a traditionalist. I don't mind dinging my frizzen up. It'll still take thousands of shots but if i think there may be a supply problem in the future I usually just buy a second frizzen or send mine to a buddy to reface and temper.....
Thanks Bob , very informative. I have a pedersoli that is really hard on flints. How heavy should the frizzen spring be ?
It's technically a delicate balance between the mainspring and frizzen spring. Pedersoli's are known to be hard hitters. They can be filed thinner, but I'd get a lock guy to do it. My suggestion is to go to the ALR forum and pose the question there. It's a flintlock builder and tuner site. There are guys there that can do that kind of work for you. Hope that helps.
I’m doing something wrong I get about 5-7 shots and my flint stops sparking, my flint also will have chunks missing after every shot
I have a video in the series I recently posted on installing and orienting your flint. It may help you out on that. Usually when you get crushed flints you are hitting too hard and too directly on the frizzen. You're mainspring could be overpowered but if you can get your flint more slicing than smashing you're well on your way to 20-30 or more shots per flint. Keep me posted.
@@BlackPowderTV I’ll check out the video
Neat tutorial, for me anyway. Since my guns use P caps.
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A modern cheat..you can use a pair of wire pliers to nip the edge of the flint if you don't have period correct gear.
Uncle Sasquatch I need to redo that video as I usually use a stepped rod and it does work better than a hammer but that was one of my first videos and I wanted to show how the hammer worked. A hammer is probably the worst way to do it but it surely works.
@@BlackPowderTV I would like to see your version of the stepped rod method. You made that hammer version look so easy :-)
Can one use chert?
Yes you can. I have many dozen white chert flints.Though it works great I prefer English black flint.
@@BlackPowderTV nice! I'd prefer to find my own flints - seems like part of the fun.