Before anyone was (when I was 18-22 yrs old, around 2000-2005), NONE of my friends were playing forged/blade irons, I was playing the MP33's. Friggin amazing best clubs ever. Heavy, difficult to hit, but DAMN, sick!
Just picked up my custom fitted MP-18 SC irons with the alignment golf pride grips! Cant wait to hit em! Side note to those who may not know, the new golf pride alignment M4 grip does not come as an option but the golf pride alignment grip does so ask your dealer to put in the notes to have 4 layers of tape on the bottom hand and youre good to go! No additional cost there. Cheers!
I am a 10 handicap and play the 919 JPX Tour irons. I can honestly say that (1) I've never hit the ball better, and I will certainly continue to lower my handicap as a result, and (2) it's nowhere near as unforgiving as people make out. I don't often hit a shot that simply falls 10 yards short because of bad contact. I know most people are saying it's a
Just purchased the new Hot Metal Pros with 120 gram S300s. I'm an 8 handicap and can easily see these allowing me to drop a few shots. Purchased PW to 5 iron and added the JPX 50 degree GW. I added 2 degrees of loft to most of the irons and 1 degree to 5 iron for gapping purposes - lofts are now GW to 5 iron (52, 47, 42, 37, 32, 28, 24) - delivered were (50, 45, 40, 35, 30, 26, 23). My driver swing speed is 102. As delivered the PW was 139, 9 iron was 150 yards, 8 iron was 164, 5 iron was either 195 or 202 as this was the first club that peak height was a little inconsistent. All the clubs were also not exactly to spec (tolerance yes, spec no) which led to not perfect gapping so first hitting the clubs and then exactly dialling them all individually in has left me with 13 to 14 yards between each club which I like given the hoter nature of these clubs. What I do like about these clubs is the consistency of the spin numbers for what is a hot club face - they really are excellent. As a 49 year old guy, it is nice to be able to pick a 5 iron out of the bag and hit is 200 off the deck into the green. Couldn't possibly recommend these more highly.
Currently playing MP-18 MMC's and just picked up a set of 919 Tour's.. as the video stated.. distance a touch shorter, but a lot more workable for shot shape..
I’m glad you said the handicaps for the clubs is only a guide. Because I play off 22 and game the 919 Tours, which I got fitted for. I was hitting the 900 forged too far and gapping was all over the place. I find the 919 tours easier to hit in all honesty
For me I prefer a more of a players club because mistakes are more obvious and I learn from a miss.while the big super game improvement clubs go straight and minimal distance loss while not much of a difference in feel when missed. That teaches me nothing and it makes me think I’m a better ball striker than I am. If you want to impress others then yeah go for the fat 28 degree 7 iron but I’ll take the players club.
28 hcp player. Using MP60s. Everyone telling me that I wouldn’t be able to hit them to save my life. Dropped quickly to 16 hcp. Iron game is the best part of my round. It’s in the head mate. Whatever you like the look of and can commit to.
Average Golfers with Ugly Swings you will not regret it. I switched to Mizunos (MP 18sc) last year. I absolutely LOVE them. Forgiveness and performance. Plus they are gorgeous.
I played for some years with MP-14s, saw no reason to change but had a few spare dollars a couple of years ago, and bought a set of MP-64s. Enjoy both clubs, but plan to revert this season to the 14s, simply because I enjoy them more. It strikes me that, as an amateur, I can play whatever makes me happy, so thanks Mizuno.
used to have mp-14s my self! difficult to play as little as I was able to practice at the time but now have the mp-18 SC and love them, the little extra forgiveness and offset was perfect for me. die hard Mizuno fan.
Really good video, well explained. I’m using jpx forged and love them. I fall into the correct handicap range too. Can be quite dangerous as you say to pigeon hole for handicap as you might be a poor putter or chipper but great ball striker. That’s the beauty of fitting. Anyway super video well done.
Thanks for the breakdown on the Mizuno line. They are fantastic clubs. I have an old set of Mizuno True Blades with S300 TT Sensicore shafts and absolutely love them, even after 20 years. The 919 tours are the first club I have hit that seem to have a feel that is close to them. Also, IMO the MB's are way more difficult to hit than the 919 Tours.
Great video gents! Much enjoyed it. Play the 919 hot metal and it’s always great to watch some solid data comparisons. Could watch you guys review mizuno all day!
I never understand why reviewers breakdown irons per handicape rating. I am a new golfer, less than 1 year of play, tried most of the irons above except the blade and chose the MP18SC. Love these irons, i hit them straight consistantly, they feel amazing - like butter as some reviews discribe. I just did not like the chunkyness from “iron improvement” line. What did beginners uses when there were only blades on the market ? I will never be a pro but feel for me is very important. The SC are amazing feeling irons, and have no problem hitting them even as a bigginner. Thank you
FrenhAccent Thanks for the feedback. As we said in the video the handicaps are just a guide, they're for golfers who might not know which irons suit them or their ability. Good to hear you're happy with your set.
I was not sure what to expect, but great info here. Tough for me to sort through the differences of all these models. You guys did a great job. Particularly noted the lack of difference in feel between forged and cast. Thanks. Big help.
Thanks for an interesting run through the Mizuno range which looks as though they have an Iron for just about anyone (as long as they aren't a Lefty). Just to explode a Myth; Forging has nothing to do with an Iron feeling/sounding "Soft", that comes from the characteristic of the metal used. That is why Mizuno's JPX Hot Metal and Hot Metal Pro have a similar sound/feel to their other Irons, Carbon Steel and Cromoly Low Alloy Steel will have similar harmonics when struck. It has nothing what so ever to do with Forging.
Great overview. Bought 919Forged 1 month ago and this very much mimics my decision tree... Wanted to buy the SCs on looks but came up with the same conclusion ... Just note that not all their clubs are available in LH ... cheers
Yeah that would be something to add to these videos. If I need to find the club that fits me and then there’s no LH option then obviously it doesn’t fit me.
Such a great resource, thanks! I'm getting fitted for Mizunos in less than two weeks. I'm a 10 (been bouncing around between 8-10 for a couple of years). I think you are right that the replacements for the MP clubs will probably roll out in the fall since I just noticed a price drop in the current line. Still, thinking my range will be MMC, 919 Forged and 919 HMP for testing. My first set of Mizunos!
@@sactownjoey I think in the UK at least they've sold just fine. The price difference probably plays a role as MMC are more expensive than SC. MP irons are usually very traditional, so the extra weight tech and titanium badge might not quite be what golfers are looking for when considering MP? Possibly?
Thanks for the comment Kevin. Sure you can appreciate shooting and editing these takes a lot of time. We've done something similar with Callaway, Ping (with video) and Cobra, PXG and Wilson (without video) here. www.todaysgolfer.co.uk/features/equipment-features/
The Handicap scale on irons should be gone for good. All down to the individual. When i started i followed it and got the most forgiving best irons on the market. Could not play a consistent shot no matter how many hours and 100s of ball hit. Bought used Taylormade 2011 MBs 3-PW with PX 6.0 and immediately felt great very consistent easier to hit the middle. love the smaller head and especially the narrow sole. I started playing a 14 HC to an 8 HC in 6 months of my first year. Now after 2 years i play the P-730s with KBS C-Taper X 130s and i can consistently play to a 4 HC and improving my game daily. I think the "game improvement" irons can actually hurt your game in the long run. So hard to get consistent yardages and stop a ball on the green. Their really is no need for super long irons when their is a need for consistent reliable distances.
Thanks for your comment GallowayGolf, understand your point. At the opposite end of the scale we've had a number of replies saying thanks for the handicap scales, as some/a lot of golfers don't really know which irons are aimed at them. As we say in the video they are just a guide for those who need them. Great you don't.
Sandy Mitchell I’ve been looking for a decent set of 32’s or 67’s at a good price but they are either expensive or worn through the plating. Mizuno definitely have a high resale value, at least on eBay when compared to pga value
Joe Boyle thanks for saying so Joe Boyle. The ratings are a bit controversial, but as we said they're just a guide. With seven iron models in the range it's understandable golfers get confused as to which suits them, hence the purpose of the video.
What are your thoughts between the Hot Metal Pro and the Taylormade M5? Do you have a preference? I bought a 5 iron in each and they both seem very similar to me. The M5 might have a little better turf interaction/higher bounce but that's about it. I'm really impressed with both. Since you have extensively tested both I wanted to see if you found a winner between the 2. Thanks.Excellent content, by the way. Up there with the best if not the best !!
Thanks so much for saying so Steve. M5 vs Hot Metal Pro is a great question. Based purely on personal preference (as we saw just a single yard between them) we'd probably come down just on the side of Hot Metal Pro. In the UK at least they have an excellent choice of shaft options (at no extra cost). And we can buy them as individuals, so you buy what you use. For most golfers it's a choice that's highly likely to come down to brand preference or loyalty. For anyone who's likely to trade them in any time soon Mizuno will probably just hold it's value a little better too. Hope that helps.
Great analysis boys. I play MP-52s, w/ stiff shafts, and quite like them (i do have Rs on Driver and 3W). I've improved a lot over the last 4 months of playing golf (excluding winter) and am hitting the ball more consistently, loving the game as I approach 50 years, and being relatively flat in skill level for the preceding 4 years (started at 40). I do need new wedges, mine are shredded, but I was going to get myself a new set of Irons. My logic says get the 919 Hot Metal, but on the the 9 through SW/LW what would you recommend? Get separate wedges, or go straight through? I have all forged now, but I especially like my forged Mizuno wedges, but really like all of them.. Much thanks, keep up the good work.
Lanham Lister If you love the forged Mizuno wedges why not stick with them? If you like a more compact 9, PW possibly have a look at doing a mixed set with JPX919 Hot Metal Pro short irons?
I play mp52 irons as well and they are great. Using a launch monitor I've compared them to the new mizuno offerings and I'm getting better results with the 52s.
For irons, I really don't care about comparing distances between clubs with different lofts (lower loft, longer distance isn't telling me about the iron itself). What I care about is the consistency of the shot. What's the standard error? How far off are misses? How often do you miss?
@@willy541000 No Willy they're not a bod, we like to try and take the time to thank everyone who makes the effort to feedback. It's difficult after a few times to find a new way to say thanks. Hope you continue to enjoy the channel.
I recently got fitted by the fantastic guys at foregolf.ie and they have recommended either the JPX919 Forged or the Taylormade P790s. I hit my irons well for a 17 handicapper and was wondering which model you guys would pick. My own fear is hitting the P790s too hot and failing to get consistent distances - Mizunos seemed weaker for distance but consistent with yardage.
Informative review format! Appreciate the effort guys. Just wondering what's your take on the JPX 900 hot metal vs JPX 919 hot metal. Both iron sets are available at a local 2nd hand shop and I'm just wondering if later is really better? Been using 18 year old MaxFli XD irons and thought I might get my hands on some current day technology haha
Nice question. It's not something we've tested ourselves, but gut feel would be the pair are pretty closely matched in terms of ball speed, carry and forgiveness. From memory the JPX900 HM were just a little longer in the blade length, and a bit wider sole. We'd probably be more interested in getting the best shaft set up for you from the options available. Also have a look to see if either set have been fitted with after-market shafts/grips as that would sway us more than just getting the latest model. Thanks for the feedback.
I picked up (fitted) the 900 HotMetals KBS Tour 90 Regular shaft, and have used them for two years, my handicap is 6.3. There is only a little difference between the 900 and 919 Hotmetals. The shafts can mean a difference between the two clubs you are looking at. I know someone who picked up the 919's off Amazon, without understanding what shaft would/wouldn't work for him. He struggles with them.
I'm curious why the MMC and Forged have different handicap profiles? They are pretty much exact in all the detailed info and even Mizuno says they are very similar and it depends on what you like better, MP or JPX.
Not sure where you're getting your information from Adman. The MMC has a smaller blade length (77.6mm vs 80.1mm), less offset (0.13" vs 0.142") , narrower sole (17.5mm vs 19.8mm), and a narrower top line (5.4mm vs 6.4mm), all of which are usually factors in an iron being tailored to a slightly better player. Hence the different handicap guides. See MMC as tailored to a good ball striker who wants a degree of forgiveness, and the JPX919 Forged with its undercut cavity as chasing a bit of speed and you won't go far wrong.
I bought a set of MP-18 MMC irons, 4 thru PW and was surprised they didn't make a gap wedge. Do they now and if not which gap wedge would you recommend. My current Gap wedge is 50 degrees. Thank you
There is no Gap wedge for the MMC Richard. But the PW is 46deg, so it's highly likely you'll want your next wedge at 50deg. Our preference would be to mach this wedge to your higher lofted wedges if possible. Does that help?
It's on our to do list (hopefully within the next month). We did produce a video on the three MP-20 irons if that's any help meanwhile, link below. ua-cam.com/video/XBXd-ttXXh4/v-deo.html
Flog Hard Can you tell us a bit more about your game? Are improving or slipping back? Do you put a big premium on using Forged irons? Where would you see a new set of irons helping your game (distance, forgiveness, ball speed)?
Today's Golfer I have been improving since going to the MP-64’s and am currently a low 8 handicap. I like the traditional lofts and thin top line that I get with them, and love the feel of a forged iron. That said, however, after 5 years of using them is it time to upgrade to newer technology that will add ball speed with some forgiveness??
@@floghard7984 If you're thinking newer tech might add a bit of ball speed, then the JPX919 Forged might be an option. MP-18 MMC would definitely be worth trying too, there's tungsten weighting to add extra forgiveness, Mizuno reckon it's just a forgiving as an old Ping Eye 2 iron, which was one of the first cavity backs. Does that help?
I have played the MP64 irons and now play MP18 (PW-5), iron 4 MMCfligh high. Of course great feedback and workability but I find them also forgiving (for a blade). You loose some distance when you hit it towards toe. Of course get fitted. I spend a decent amount of time testing several irons (not only Mizuno) on trackman and taking a demo iron on course and was leaning towards the MPSC or Srixon. Especially because I had to change from steel shafts to graphite took so long. Difficult to find a great fit between clubhead and shaft when you have to go to graphite because in steel you have a lot of options in the democart but when you need graphite options are very limited (in a standard demo cart from the several brands). Just for fun I tried the MP18 MB because it should be too difficult but to KY surprise it was easy to hit. Than all the times the numbers on trackman (especially dispersion) were the best. I play of 6 but it all comes down what fits your game best. So test but give the MP range certainly a try.
What research do you have to back up the quite strong hcp categorization of the clubs? I know many mid hcp golfers that has picked up «better player clubs» and played at the same standard, but been more happy since they prefer smaller/thinner clubs visually.
As we say in the video Erlend, the handicap ratings are just a guide, they are not hard and fast rules. The intention is to give clarification to golfers who maybe confused by seven iron options in the Mizuno range. The handicap guides would be the 'target golfer' for each model.
right now I use the Callaway Steelhead Pros I do have a high handicap but it has every thing to do with course management and not ball striking, I know a true MB iorn is not something that would fit my game, what would be ones I should try out to get fitted
Hi, thanks for the question. We've tested all the current Mizuno iron models on our website, each has a handicap guide, which you might find useful. You can see the test here... bit.ly/2LNBMY0
I play Mizuno MP -SC - love the feel the club brings and am likely to stay in brand. I play off 10.8 and see this year as a good opportunity to improve - better to get a fitting by Mizuno or my usual supplier?
Brian Treadwell Good question. It probably depends on who your local supplier is and have you used them before? Buying direct from the supplier has it's benefits as (in the UK anyway) your contract of purchase is with the brand not the retailer.
I had a big fall off with yardage with the mc ended up with the mmc which are similar to my previous 59s. Playing off 10.0 but when I was a junior played blades.
Jack - I have the MP-SC from PW though 5i and the MMC in 4i. I love the clubs but get along much better with the SC 5i than the MMC 4i - whether that is because the profile behind the ball is smaller and demands more focus I don’t know. Love the brand though
Brian Treadwell before the fitting I was planning on exactly the same set mark up but coming from the mp59s I found The mmc distance better and went 5-pw mmc and fli hi in the 4 which is a great club.
Hi, so I was playing the MP-64s with KBS Tour 120 S, 6 iron getting about 5200-5400 rpms, now that I have switched to a new set of JPX 919 forged with Aerotech Steelfibers 110icw S, my 6 iron has dropped dramatically to around 4200-4400 rpms, would you say or attribute this dramatic drop in my iron spin to the JPX 919 forged head or could it be the shaft change? Did you see any of this drop in iron spin during your testing? Because when you compare the KBS Tour 120 and Aerotech Steelfibers, they both have mid-high kick points torque ratings are similar, weight at 10grams difference is not substantial. the 2 degrees of loft difference in the 6irons would not be so great to create a 1000 rpm difference either. Any thoughts ideas would greatly be appreciated.
Joe Chen Brilliant question. We get a lot of comments on here about not testing with the same shaft in each iron or wood. But this would be ridiculous as brands specifically use different shafts for each iron or wood to satisfy their target golfer. So for instance it would be daft putting a heavy low launching Dynamic Gold into a super strong lofted Rogue X iron. Our data (considering the stronger loft) doesn't show any huge drop-off of spin for the JPX919 Forged, thats not to say that some golfers will see a drop off though. Experience says the shaft change has probably had an impact, and the 2deg stronger loft (between MP-64 and the JPX919 Forged) would also play a part too. Does that help?
Joe Chen . Have fit Six for over 6 years. 110S straight in require, IMO, 6i swing speeds >90mph. The SF shaft construction actually enables moving to a softer flex than steel shaft ratings. For increased loft, and grips of angle of descent, and more distance, test with a soft stepped version of the 110S or even a 110R straight in. You will be amazed at the changes.
Save yourself some money. The specs. of the JPX 919 seven irons are comparable to 5 irons made by the Ben Hogan company in the early 1970s, with virtually identical performance. A set of Hogan irons in superb condition can be bought today on EBAY for $100.
@@TheZombieeeeeee I presume that's a series of typos, and that you meant so say "you're literally on crack." I said the specs are the same., as is the performance. But you have a point, as Hogan's strict manufacturing standards were probably higher.
I am presently playing a set of MX 23s. Since they are not available anymore and due to age and injuries, it has become necessary for me to change to a softer shaft. Which of Mizunos' club would be a good replacement for the MX 23?
Really good question. Mizuno have literally just launched a new range of JPX921 irons yesterday. We haven't hit the MX23 for a long time but gut feel would be that it's a toss up between the new JPX921 Forged and JPX921 Hot Metal Pro (not in this video) and probably stay away from the MP-20 lineup. If you're not overly fussed by a 'forged' feel the Hot Metal Pro would be an excellent shout, they're powerful, forgiving and still look like a players iron. You can see how they compare on our website here bit.ly/31GHxOL
Not as a video Jens, but we have created a 'Which Wilson Iron Suits Me?' page on our website, here www.todaysgolfer.co.uk/features/equipment-features/2019/march/which-wilson-iron-suits-me/
I’m a 1 handicap and currently play the MP 25’s but I’m looking for an upgrade. My weakness is my long irons. Could I and should I get JPX919 Tour in PW-6 and get the 5-3 in JPX919 Forged at no additional cost? Or do I have to buy them separately? BTW.... Mizuno irons are the best!!!!! Thanks!!!
Certainly in the UK there is no additional charge for buying individual clubs, so if you know your long irons are a weakness it would make a lot of sense to go for something more forgiving. Are you aware the new MP-20s are coming in a few weeks too? They were revealed at The Open and include a hollow blade the MP-20 HMB (Hot Metal Blade) which might also be worth looking at.
Okay, thanks. I’m definitely going to have to do some testing. I may end up with three different models of irons in my bag. I just feel so much more confident with that little wider top line once I get past the 7 iron. I can hit more of a blade set but why not go with a little more forgiveness and a lot more confidence? You know.
I would have liked to have seen these tests done with someone with a slower swing speed because I belive the comparison of peak hight , spin and decent angles would have been much different . Also why no ping it seems ping are being snubbed by the you tubers this year .....
Rodney Greenwell Thanks for the comment, it's something we may consider in the future. It's all about having the right player and the time. We've already done something similar with the Ping irons (link below). If there happens to be any further Ping iron launches this year we'll do a similar comparison again. ua-cam.com/video/iK6GJOoC4_k/v-deo.html
We'd love to Thiago but Titleist insist testers only hit product they have been fitted for. It makes it impossible to show a comparison, as our pro would only be able to hit the set he was fitted for. We will ask Titleist again, to see if they will make an exception.
@@willy541000 Thanks for the comment. The handicaps are just guides as we say in the video. The other couple of video's in this series have muscle back irons as scratch handicap or better, and to be fair the MP-18 MB could be classified as that. What's important in our opinion, and something we wanted to convey in the video is how you need to be very good and consistent ball striker to be playing either of them.
I tried the mc and I play off 10 consistent ball striker but I lost about 10 yards with them. Glad I went on track man to get the numbers, mmc was the winner for me.
lildvl10 I am an 12 handicapper and just bought the MP-18 MB... it’s not about your handicap but about how well you can strike the ball in the middle of the face. I would say go with the mmc if you need some help getting the ball in the air
Hi, you can probably answer your own question. Where do you put an emphasis on your own game. If you're after a little more ball speed and forgiveness the Hot Metal would be where we'd be looking. Alternatively if you're a confident ball striker and would welcome some extra feel, and don't mind giving up a smidge of distance to get it the JPX919 Forged might be the answer. If owning the latest models is important to you the JPX919 family are due to be updated this year.
@@lildvl10 The JPX family were scheduled for an update in July/August this year. But that was before Covid 19. It may well change. We don't yet have any further news.
Thanks for the comment John. If we're honest there's probably more forgiving irons out there than Mizuno's JPX 919 Hot Metal. Hence no handicap guide of 28 in the Mizuno line-up.
bill callahan JPX 900 Hot Metal would be very similar to 919 Hot Metal. We'd say to consider where your game is at before opting for 919 Forged. There's more loft and less face spring so you're likely to give up a bit of distance. If your game is improving though and you're really after a forged 'feel' (sound) then the 919 Forged could be a great option.
As we say in the video, the handicap guides are just that 'a guide'. We're absolutely not saying Mizuno don't have a iron for a 28 handicapper. What we are saying is, there's probably more forgiving, easy to hit iron options out there for a higher handicapper.
You think that is confusing? Read the arcane rules of Golf. Try to learn the golf swing by listening to all the "experts". Enjoy paying 500 bucks for a driver. Try playing behind players with no hand eye coordination, no course awareness, and whose goal is to gamble and make the round last as long as possible. What a game!!
Before anyone was (when I was 18-22 yrs old, around 2000-2005), NONE of my friends were playing forged/blade irons, I was playing the MP33's. Friggin amazing best clubs ever. Heavy, difficult to hit, but DAMN, sick!
Just picked up my custom fitted MP-18 SC irons with the alignment golf pride grips! Cant wait to hit em! Side note to those who may not know, the new golf pride alignment M4 grip does not come as an option but the golf pride alignment grip does so ask your dealer to put in the notes to have 4 layers of tape on the bottom hand and youre good to go! No additional cost there.
Cheers!
Thanks for the feedback.
Wish there could be more reviews like this to understand the different offerings from the companies. Love Mizuno irons
Glad you enjoyed it Jaco, thanks for the feedback.
I am a 10 handicap and play the 919 JPX Tour irons. I can honestly say that (1) I've never hit the ball better, and I will certainly continue to lower my handicap as a result, and (2) it's nowhere near as unforgiving as people make out. I don't often hit a shot that simply falls 10 yards short because of bad contact. I know most people are saying it's a
Thanks for sharing, as we say in the video the handicaps are only ever a guide.
Great to hear you're hitting the ball so well.
Just purchased the new Hot Metal Pros with 120 gram S300s. I'm an 8 handicap and can easily see these allowing me to drop a few shots. Purchased PW to 5 iron and added the JPX 50 degree GW. I added 2 degrees of loft to most of the irons and 1 degree to 5 iron for gapping purposes - lofts are now GW to 5 iron (52, 47, 42, 37, 32, 28, 24) - delivered were (50, 45, 40, 35, 30, 26, 23). My driver swing speed is 102. As delivered the PW was 139, 9 iron was 150 yards, 8 iron was 164, 5 iron was either 195 or 202 as this was the first club that peak height was a little inconsistent. All the clubs were also not exactly to spec (tolerance yes, spec no) which led to not perfect gapping so first hitting the clubs and then exactly dialling them all individually in has left me with 13 to 14 yards between each club which I like given the hoter nature of these clubs. What I do like about these clubs is the consistency of the spin numbers for what is a hot club face - they really are excellent. As a 49 year old guy, it is nice to be able to pick a 5 iron out of the bag and hit is 200 off the deck into the green. Couldn't possibly recommend these more highly.
Thanks for the feedback Paul.
Currently playing MP-18 MMC's and just picked up a set of 919 Tour's.. as the video stated.. distance a touch shorter, but a lot more workable for shot shape..
I’m glad you said the handicaps for the clubs is only a guide. Because I play off 22 and game the 919 Tours, which I got fitted for. I was hitting the 900 forged too far and gapping was all over the place. I find the 919 tours easier to hit in all honesty
Thanks for the feedback.
For me I prefer a more of a players club because mistakes are more obvious and I learn from a miss.while the big super game improvement clubs go straight and minimal distance loss while not much of a difference in feel when missed. That teaches me nothing and it makes me think I’m a better ball striker than I am. If you want to impress others then yeah go for the fat 28 degree 7 iron but I’ll take the players club.
28 hcp player. Using MP60s. Everyone telling me that I wouldn’t be able to hit them to save my life. Dropped quickly to 16 hcp. Iron game is the best part of my round. It’s in the head mate. Whatever you like the look of and can commit to.
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Wrong irons for you actually wrong irons for 99% of golfers including pros
Thinking about going to mizuno for my next set. I love the way they look. Have to get on the simulator though with them
Average Golfers with Ugly Swings you will not regret it. I switched to Mizunos (MP 18sc) last year. I absolutely LOVE them. Forgiveness and performance. Plus they are gorgeous.
you wont be disapointed
Awesome at last someone that described how the range perform all together!
Glad we could help Grant.
I have the hot metals, I hit some forged irons at the golf shop and was blown away of how good I hit them. They felt amazing. I might have to upgrade!
Before Christmas I got fitted for the JPX 919 Tour with KBS Tour $-taper 120 (Stiff). I'm a 8.8 handicap golfer. They are really lovely clubs.
I played for some years with MP-14s, saw no reason to change but had a few spare dollars a couple of years ago, and bought a set of MP-64s. Enjoy both clubs, but plan to revert this season to the 14s, simply because I enjoy them more. It strikes me that, as an amateur, I can play whatever makes me happy, so thanks Mizuno.
used to have mp-14s my self! difficult to play as little as I was able to practice at the time but now have the mp-18 SC and love them, the little extra forgiveness and offset was perfect for me. die hard Mizuno fan.
I never hit a ball as well as I did with my MP14
They were stolen and I miss them
Really good video, well explained. I’m using jpx forged and love them. I fall into the correct handicap range too. Can be quite dangerous as you say to pigeon hole for handicap as you might be a poor putter or chipper but great ball striker. That’s the beauty of fitting. Anyway super video well done.
Thanks for taking the time to say so Jim.
Rocking the mp 54’s
Same here.... but tempted to change to MP 18 SC
Good review guys, I use the 919 forged and love them, as a 6 handicap i like the forgiveness they offer on a bad day
i don't understand how such a low handicap plays that club why not SC or Tour? Craig
@@jeffreykatz1330 why sacrifice forgiveness if the 2 irons perform the same from a good shot?
Thanks for the breakdown on the Mizuno line. They are fantastic clubs. I have an old set of Mizuno True Blades with S300 TT Sensicore shafts and absolutely love them, even after 20 years. The 919 tours are the first club I have hit that seem to have a feel that is close to them. Also, IMO the MB's are way more difficult to hit than the 919 Tours.
Thanks for the feedback Stu.
I've been looking for this type of review for a long time. Well done!
Thanks so much for saying so. Glad it was helpful.
Great video. Lots of explanation. I basically went with the feel at impact and swing. I selected the MP18-MMC.
Thank you Juan, much appreciated. There's a lot to be said about what 'feels' right. Nice choice with the MMCs.
Great video gents! Much enjoyed it. Play the 919 hot metal and it’s always great to watch some solid data comparisons. Could watch you guys review mizuno all day!
Gregory June Thanks for taking the time to say so, much appreciated.
Been playing the MP 18 mb last 2 yrs, great clubs, 14hcp, now going to upgrade to 919 tour / forged combo
I never understand why reviewers breakdown irons per handicape rating. I am a new golfer, less than 1 year of play, tried most of the irons above except the blade and chose the MP18SC. Love these irons, i hit them straight consistantly, they feel amazing - like butter as some reviews discribe. I just did not like the chunkyness from “iron improvement” line. What did beginners uses when there were only blades on the market ?
I will never be a pro but feel for me is very important. The SC are amazing feeling irons, and have no problem hitting them even as a bigginner.
Thank you
FrenhAccent Thanks for the feedback. As we said in the video the handicaps are just a guide, they're for golfers who might not know which irons suit them or their ability.
Good to hear you're happy with your set.
Probably the best vlog and professional opinion on what handicapper should play certain irons
Thank you so much for taking the time to say so Gary.
@@todaysgolfer it has helped me to make my decision on which ones i should get.
Great Video guys!! I currently have MP-53 but will be upgrading this summer and now have a good plan of attack for my fitting.
Thanks!!
Julio Rodriguez Thanks for taking the time to say so.
Julio Rodriguez. Playing the same and considering the MMC 18s or the SCs. How about you? I wish that I could test side by side.
I was not sure what to expect, but great info here. Tough for me to sort through the differences of all these models. You guys did a great job.
Particularly noted the lack of difference in feel between forged and cast. Thanks. Big help.
greg wayne Thanks for taking the time to say so, glad we can help, it's what we're all about.
This is great. The same video for the Mizuno 2020 range please.
Thanks for the feedback Amrit, it was on our to list before the corona virus led to the UK being locked down.
@@todaysgolfer in a few months then... 🤞🏻
Thanks for an interesting run through the Mizuno range which looks as though they have an Iron for just about anyone (as long as they aren't a Lefty).
Just to explode a Myth; Forging has nothing to do with an Iron feeling/sounding "Soft", that comes from the characteristic of the metal used. That is why Mizuno's JPX Hot Metal and Hot Metal Pro have a similar sound/feel to their other Irons, Carbon Steel and Cromoly Low Alloy Steel will have similar harmonics when struck. It has nothing what so ever to do with Forging.
Thanks for taking the time to say so.
Great overview. Bought 919Forged 1 month ago and this very much mimics my decision tree... Wanted to buy the SCs on looks but came up with the same conclusion ... Just note that not all their clubs are available in LH ... cheers
Thanks for taking the time to say so. Great iron choice too.
Yeah that would be something to add to these videos. If I need to find the club that fits me and then there’s no LH option then obviously it doesn’t fit me.
@@willy541000 Thanks for the feedback
currently playing titleist would like to try out Mizuno
Excellent video! I would love to see a similar video with the new MP-20s.
Thanks Michael, there's something similar on the MP-20 here
ua-cam.com/video/XBXd-ttXXh4/v-deo.html
Such a great resource, thanks! I'm getting fitted for Mizunos in less than two weeks. I'm a 10 (been bouncing around between 8-10 for a couple of years). I think you are right that the replacements for the MP clubs will probably roll out in the fall since I just noticed a price drop in the current line. Still, thinking my range will be MMC, 919 Forged and 919 HMP for testing. My first set of Mizunos!
Chris Bertelli Thanks for saying so. Sounds like you have three excellent irons in mind to choose from.
i have the 919 forged i am 13.5 hcp . and can fell they are gonna get med much lower .. try them out . they are great
@@todaysgolfer I've been trying to find people who game the MMCs but can't find any. Have they not sold well? Too small of a niche?
@@sactownjoey I think in the UK at least they've sold just fine. The price difference probably plays a role as MMC are more expensive than SC. MP irons are usually very traditional, so the extra weight tech and titanium badge might not quite be what golfers are looking for when considering MP? Possibly?
Hey guys, Great video! You should make more videos like this with all the brands!! Maybe start with Titleist
Thanks for the comment Kevin.
Sure you can appreciate shooting and editing these takes a lot of time. We've done something similar with Callaway, Ping (with video) and Cobra, PXG and Wilson (without video) here.
www.todaysgolfer.co.uk/features/equipment-features/
Excellent review and guide! Thanks guuys!
Thanks for taking the time to say so, very much appreciated.
The Handicap scale on irons should be gone for good. All down to the individual. When i started i followed it and got the most forgiving best irons on the market. Could not play a consistent shot no matter how many hours and 100s of ball hit. Bought used Taylormade 2011 MBs 3-PW with PX 6.0 and immediately felt great very consistent easier to hit the middle. love the smaller head and especially the narrow sole. I started playing a 14 HC to an 8 HC in 6 months of my first year. Now after 2 years i play the P-730s with KBS C-Taper X 130s and i can consistently play to a 4 HC and improving my game daily. I think the "game improvement" irons can actually hurt your game in the long run. So hard to get consistent yardages and stop a ball on the green. Their really is no need for super long irons when their is a need for consistent reliable distances.
Thanks for your comment GallowayGolf, understand your point.
At the opposite end of the scale we've had a number of replies saying thanks for the handicap scales, as some/a lot of golfers don't really know which irons are aimed at them.
As we say in the video they are just a guide for those who need them. Great you don't.
PLAYED ALL THE MP MODELS , EXCELLENT EXCELLENT CLUBS .
im still rocking my MP 32s
Sandy Mitchell I’ve been looking for a decent set of 32’s or 67’s at a good price but they are either expensive or worn through the plating. Mizuno definitely have a high resale value, at least on eBay when compared to pga value
outstanding review. The best in class
Thanks so much for taking the time to say so kevin.
Thanks again - very informative. HCP grading of models is useful.
Joe Boyle thanks for saying so Joe Boyle. The ratings are a bit controversial, but as we said they're just a guide. With seven iron models in the range it's understandable golfers get confused as to which suits them, hence the purpose of the video.
What are your thoughts between the Hot Metal Pro and the Taylormade M5? Do you have a preference? I bought a 5 iron in each and they both seem very similar to me. The M5 might have a little better turf interaction/higher bounce but that's about it. I'm really impressed with both. Since you have extensively tested both I wanted to see if you found a winner between the 2. Thanks.Excellent content, by the way. Up there with the best if not the best !!
Thanks so much for saying so Steve. M5 vs Hot Metal Pro is a great question.
Based purely on personal preference (as we saw just a single yard between them) we'd probably come down just on the side of Hot Metal Pro. In the UK at least they have an excellent choice of shaft options (at no extra cost). And we can buy them as individuals, so you buy what you use.
For most golfers it's a choice that's highly likely to come down to brand preference or loyalty.
For anyone who's likely to trade them in any time soon Mizuno will probably just hold it's value a little better too.
Hope that helps.
Great analysis boys. I play MP-52s, w/ stiff shafts, and quite like them (i do have Rs on Driver and 3W). I've improved a lot over the last 4 months of playing golf (excluding winter) and am hitting the ball more consistently, loving the game as I approach 50 years, and being relatively flat in skill level for the preceding 4 years (started at 40). I do need new wedges, mine are shredded, but I was going to get myself a new set of Irons. My logic says get the 919 Hot Metal, but on the the 9 through SW/LW what would you recommend? Get separate wedges, or go straight through? I have all forged now, but I especially like my forged Mizuno wedges, but really like all of them.. Much thanks, keep up the good work.
Lanham Lister If you love the forged Mizuno wedges why not stick with them? If you like a more compact 9, PW possibly have a look at doing a mixed set with JPX919 Hot Metal Pro short irons?
I play mp52 irons as well and they are great. Using a launch monitor I've compared them to the new mizuno offerings and I'm getting better results with the 52s.
For irons, I really don't care about comparing distances between clubs with different lofts (lower loft, longer distance isn't telling me about the iron itself). What I care about is the consistency of the shot. What's the standard error? How far off are misses? How often do you miss?
great information on here
Thanks for taking the time to say so David.
Looking forward to my new hot metal pro long irons. 4 handicap here
Nice choice Konstantine, thanks for sharing.
Great review. Very informative.
Adam Nheu Thanks so much for taking the time to say so.
Today's Golfer are these replies a bot,because they are exactly the same?
@@willy541000 No Willy they're not a bod, we like to try and take the time to thank everyone who makes the effort to feedback.
It's difficult after a few times to find a new way to say thanks. Hope you continue to enjoy the channel.
I recently got fitted by the fantastic guys at foregolf.ie and they have recommended either the JPX919 Forged or the Taylormade P790s.
I hit my irons well for a 17 handicapper and was wondering which model you guys would pick.
My own fear is hitting the P790s too hot and failing to get consistent distances - Mizunos seemed weaker for distance but consistent with yardage.
Both cracking irons Barry.
Informative review format! Appreciate the effort guys. Just wondering what's your take on the JPX 900 hot metal vs JPX 919 hot metal. Both iron sets are available at a local 2nd hand shop and I'm just wondering if later is really better? Been using 18 year old MaxFli XD irons and thought I might get my hands on some current day technology haha
Nice question. It's not something we've tested ourselves, but gut feel would be the pair are pretty closely matched in terms of ball speed, carry and forgiveness.
From memory the JPX900 HM were just a little longer in the blade length, and a bit wider sole. We'd probably be more interested in getting the best shaft set up for you from the options available. Also have a look to see if either set have been fitted with after-market shafts/grips as that would sway us more than just getting the latest model.
Thanks for the feedback.
I picked up (fitted) the 900 HotMetals KBS Tour 90 Regular shaft, and have used them for two years, my handicap is 6.3. There is only a little difference between the 900 and 919 Hotmetals. The shafts can mean a difference between the two clubs you are looking at. I know someone who picked up the 919's off Amazon, without understanding what shaft would/wouldn't work for him. He struggles with them.
@@MarkSmith-hq8yu Thanks for chiming in Mark, good other you've got a set you're happy with.
Cheers guys, looks like i need to look into shafts more before i make decision
@@vegemart Sounds like a lot of sense to us.
Good information
Thanks for the feedback Steve.
I'm curious why the MMC and Forged have different handicap profiles? They are pretty much exact in all the detailed info and even Mizuno says they are very similar and it depends on what you like better, MP or JPX.
Not sure where you're getting your information from Adman.
The MMC has a smaller blade length (77.6mm vs 80.1mm), less offset (0.13" vs 0.142") , narrower sole (17.5mm vs 19.8mm), and a narrower top line (5.4mm vs 6.4mm), all of which are usually factors in an iron being tailored to a slightly better player.
Hence the different handicap guides.
See MMC as tailored to a good ball striker who wants a degree of forgiveness, and the JPX919 Forged with its undercut cavity as chasing a bit of speed and you won't go far wrong.
I bought a set of MP-18 MMC irons, 4 thru PW and was surprised they didn't make a gap wedge. Do they now and if not which gap wedge would you recommend. My current Gap wedge is 50 degrees. Thank you
There is no Gap wedge for the MMC Richard. But the PW is 46deg, so it's highly likely you'll want your next wedge at 50deg.
Our preference would be to mach this wedge to your higher lofted wedges if possible. Does that help?
Update with MP20 range please!
It's on our to do list (hopefully within the next month).
We did produce a video on the three MP-20 irons if that's any help meanwhile, link below.
ua-cam.com/video/XBXd-ttXXh4/v-deo.html
I have been playing the MP-64's for the last 5 years and love them. In considering the new technology, which of the new Mizuno's would you recommend?
Flog Hard Can you tell us a bit more about your game? Are improving or slipping back? Do you put a big premium on using Forged irons? Where would you see a new set of irons helping your game (distance, forgiveness, ball speed)?
Today's Golfer I have been improving since going to the MP-64’s and am currently a low 8 handicap. I like the traditional lofts and thin top line that I get with them, and love the feel of a forged iron. That said, however, after 5 years of using them is it time to upgrade to newer technology that will add ball speed with some forgiveness??
@@floghard7984 If you're thinking newer tech might add a bit of ball speed, then the JPX919 Forged might be an option. MP-18 MMC would definitely be worth trying too, there's tungsten weighting to add extra forgiveness, Mizuno reckon it's just a forgiving as an old Ping Eye 2 iron, which was one of the first cavity backs.
Does that help?
Today's Golfer...Thank you for your thoughts.
I have played the MP64 irons and now play MP18 (PW-5), iron 4 MMCfligh high. Of course great feedback and workability but I find them also forgiving (for a blade). You loose some distance when you hit it towards toe. Of course get fitted. I spend a decent amount of time testing several irons (not only Mizuno) on trackman and taking a demo iron on course and was leaning towards the MPSC or Srixon. Especially because I had to change from steel shafts to graphite took so long. Difficult to find a great fit between clubhead and shaft when you have to go to graphite because in steel you have a lot of options in the democart but when you need graphite options are very limited (in a standard demo cart from the several brands). Just for fun I tried the MP18 MB because it should be too difficult but to KY surprise it was easy to hit. Than all the times the numbers on trackman (especially dispersion) were the best. I play of 6 but it all comes down what fits your game best. So test but give the MP range certainly a try.
Found a set of MP55s and I never thought an MP could be so forgiving. These are the gamers. Btw, I have 54s, 53s, 14s, and 63s.
Looks like hot metal pro is the club of choice if you wanna juice 210 yard 9 irons
What research do you have to back up the quite strong hcp categorization of the clubs? I know many mid hcp golfers that has picked up «better player clubs» and played at the same standard, but been more happy since they prefer smaller/thinner clubs visually.
As we say in the video Erlend, the handicap ratings are just a guide, they are not hard and fast rules. The intention is to give clarification to golfers who maybe confused by seven iron options in the Mizuno range. The handicap guides would be the 'target golfer' for each model.
the mizuno web site has offset specs in inches. You have it in MM. But what club? The offset progresses through the clubs.
We usually look at the 7 iron, and give offset in mm so there's a clear point of comparison.
Offset is always progressive through the set.
right now I use the Callaway Steelhead Pros I do have a high handicap but it has every thing to do with course management and not ball striking, I know a true MB iorn is not something that would fit my game, what would be ones I should try out to get fitted
Hi, thanks for the question.
We've tested all the current Mizuno iron models on our website, each has a handicap guide, which you might find useful.
You can see the test here...
bit.ly/2LNBMY0
These are great 👍🏼
Thanks for taking the time to say so, much appreciated.
I play Mizuno MP -SC - love the feel the club brings and am likely to stay in brand. I play off 10.8 and see this year as a good opportunity to improve - better to get a fitting by Mizuno or my usual supplier?
Brian Treadwell Good question. It probably depends on who your local supplier is and have you used them before? Buying direct from the supplier has it's benefits as (in the UK anyway) your contract of purchase is with the brand not the retailer.
I had a big fall off with yardage with the mc ended up with the mmc which are similar to my previous 59s. Playing off 10.0 but when I was a junior played blades.
Jack - I have the MP-SC from PW though 5i and the MMC in 4i. I love the clubs but get along much better with the SC 5i than the MMC 4i - whether that is because the profile behind the ball is smaller and demands more focus I don’t know. Love the brand though
Brian Treadwell before the fitting I was planning on exactly the same set mark up but coming from the mp59s I found The mmc distance better and went 5-pw mmc and fli hi in the 4 which is a great club.
Most of the comments don’t say what model they are playing
This was great.
Dave Wilkins Thanks for taking the time to say so, hopefully it was helpful/useful.
any help on where to find LH Mizuno clubs in Canada?!?? Loving either the hot metal pro or forged.... I'm typically a bogey golfer
Sorry Matt we're UK based, can anyone else help?
Hi, so I was playing the MP-64s with KBS Tour 120 S, 6 iron getting about 5200-5400 rpms, now that I have switched to a new set of JPX 919 forged with Aerotech Steelfibers 110icw S, my 6 iron has dropped dramatically to around 4200-4400 rpms, would you say or attribute this dramatic drop in my iron spin to the JPX 919 forged head or could it be the shaft change? Did you see any of this drop in iron spin during your testing? Because when you compare the KBS Tour 120 and Aerotech Steelfibers, they both have mid-high kick points torque ratings are similar, weight at 10grams difference is not substantial. the 2 degrees of loft difference in the 6irons would not be so great to create a 1000 rpm difference either. Any thoughts ideas would greatly be appreciated.
Joe Chen Brilliant question. We get a lot of comments on here about not testing with the same shaft in each iron or wood.
But this would be ridiculous as brands specifically use different shafts for each iron or wood to satisfy their target golfer.
So for instance it would be daft putting a heavy low launching Dynamic Gold into a super strong lofted Rogue X iron.
Our data (considering the stronger loft) doesn't show any huge drop-off of spin for the JPX919 Forged, thats not to say that some golfers will see a drop off though.
Experience says the shaft change has probably had an impact, and the 2deg stronger loft (between MP-64 and the JPX919 Forged) would also play a part too.
Does that help?
Joe Chen . Have fit Six for over 6 years. 110S straight in require, IMO, 6i swing speeds >90mph. The SF shaft construction actually enables moving to a softer flex than steel shaft ratings. For increased loft, and grips of angle of descent, and more distance, test with a soft stepped version of the 110S or even a 110R straight in. You will be amazed at the changes.
It's the shaft change - Aerotechs play firm to the stated flex. I went with Accra Shafts aftermarket - excellent shafts.
Save yourself some money. The specs. of the JPX 919 seven irons are comparable to 5 irons made by the Ben Hogan company in the early 1970s, with virtually identical performance. A set of Hogan irons in superb condition can be bought today on EBAY for $100.
Lee Eustace shut up bitch
you are on literal crack if you think ben hogan 1970 clubs are even remotely comparable to jpx 919 lmao
@@TheZombieeeeeee I presume that's a series of typos, and that you meant so say "you're literally on crack." I said the specs are the same., as is the performance. But you have a point, as Hogan's strict manufacturing standards were probably higher.
I am presently playing a set of MX 23s. Since they are not available anymore and due to age and injuries, it has become necessary for me to change to a softer shaft. Which of Mizunos' club would be a good replacement for the MX 23?
Really good question.
Mizuno have literally just launched a new range of JPX921 irons yesterday. We haven't hit the MX23 for a long time but gut feel would be that it's a toss up between the new JPX921 Forged and JPX921 Hot Metal Pro (not in this video) and probably stay away from the MP-20 lineup.
If you're not overly fussed by a 'forged' feel the Hot Metal Pro would be an excellent shout, they're powerful, forgiving and still look like a players iron.
You can see how they compare on our website here bit.ly/31GHxOL
have you done one on wilson irons also?
Not as a video Jens, but we have created a 'Which Wilson Iron Suits Me?' page on our website, here
www.todaysgolfer.co.uk/features/equipment-features/2019/march/which-wilson-iron-suits-me/
I’m a 1 handicap and currently play the MP 25’s but I’m looking for an upgrade. My weakness is my long irons. Could I and should I get JPX919 Tour in PW-6 and get the 5-3 in JPX919 Forged at no additional cost? Or do I have to buy them separately?
BTW.... Mizuno irons are the best!!!!!
Thanks!!!
Certainly in the UK there is no additional charge for buying individual clubs, so if you know your long irons are a weakness it would make a lot of sense to go for something more forgiving.
Are you aware the new MP-20s are coming in a few weeks too? They were revealed at The Open and include a hollow blade the MP-20 HMB (Hot Metal Blade) which might also be worth looking at.
Okay, thanks. I’m definitely going to have to do some testing. I may end up with three different models of irons in my bag. I just feel so much more confident with that little wider top line once I get past the 7 iron. I can hit more of a blade set but why not go with a little more forgiveness and a lot more confidence? You know.
@@DksPantherPride Exactly!
I would have liked to have seen these tests done with someone with a slower swing speed because I belive the comparison of peak hight , spin and decent angles would have been much different .
Also why no ping it seems ping are being snubbed by the you tubers this year .....
Rodney Greenwell Thanks for the comment, it's something we may consider in the future. It's all about having the right player and the time.
We've already done something similar with the Ping irons (link below). If there happens to be any further Ping iron launches this year we'll do a similar comparison again.
ua-cam.com/video/iK6GJOoC4_k/v-deo.html
Thanks for the link
Again. Thanks.
Thanks for watching, appreciate the feedback.
Could you do this with ping irons?
Dave Wilkins We've already done it. Link here ua-cam.com/video/iK6GJOoC4_k/v-deo.html
Are you going to make a video about titleist line?
We'd love to Thiago but Titleist insist testers only hit product they have been fitted for. It makes it impossible to show a comparison, as our pro would only be able to hit the set he was fitted for.
We will ask Titleist again, to see if they will make an exception.
I think you have forgiveness wrong on the 919 Tour, it's playability/forgivness is easier than the MP18MMC's.
Daniel L L Not sure where you're looking, the JPX919 Tour is less forgiving than the MP-18 MMC.
Today's Golfer i can see the mmc being higher hc club I didn’t expect the tours to be the same as the mb and lower than the sc
@@willy541000 Thanks for the comment.
The handicaps are just guides as we say in the video. The other couple of video's in this series have muscle back irons as scratch handicap or better, and to be fair the MP-18 MB could be classified as that.
What's important in our opinion, and something we wanted to convey in the video is how you need to be very good and consistent ball striker to be playing either of them.
I’m 15 handicap, allready ordered mp18 sc because my old irons are mp32, maybe I take mistake
Isu Gruu Did you try and get fitted for the MP-18 SC on a launch monitor? MP-32 are pretty demanding too.
Today's Golfer No I did Not fitted, so Let’s see how those works for me.
@@isugruu You'll need to let us know, fitting in our opinion is an absolute must.
Today's Golfer Yes I’ll
I tried the mc and I play off 10 consistent ball striker but I lost about 10 yards with them. Glad I went on track man to get the numbers, mmc was the winner for me.
Hello, i am an 11-12 handicaper and i was wondering if i can play the
919 hot metal or should i go with the forged? I need to improve my GIR.
lildvl10 I am an 12 handicapper and just bought the MP-18 MB... it’s not about your handicap but about how well you can strike the ball in the middle of the face. I would say go with the mmc if you need some help getting the ball in the air
Hi, you can probably answer your own question. Where do you put an emphasis on your own game. If you're after a little more ball speed and forgiveness the Hot Metal would be where we'd be looking. Alternatively if you're a confident ball striker and would welcome some extra feel, and don't mind giving up a smidge of distance to get it the JPX919 Forged might be the answer.
If owning the latest models is important to you the JPX919 family are due to be updated this year.
Today's Golfer i was wondering as well on when a newer model will drop. thank you for the tip, i appreciate it.
@@lildvl10 They were scheduled for July/August, but not sure if that's still the case thanks to Covid 19.
@@lildvl10 The JPX family were scheduled for an update in July/August this year. But that was before Covid 19. It may well change. We don't yet have any further news.
So what are the best irons for a 28 handicapper?
Thanks for the comment John. If we're honest there's probably more forgiving irons out there than Mizuno's JPX 919 Hot Metal. Hence no handicap guide of 28 in the Mizuno line-up.
Okay mate, thanks for answering.@@todaysgolfer
28 handicap should spend there $1000 on lessons,not irons to improve.
Great video. I play the 900 hot metal, where would they fall in the mix. Same as the 919? Also thinking of going to the 919 forged. Any thoughts.
bill callahan JPX 900 Hot Metal would be very similar to 919 Hot Metal. We'd say to consider where your game is at before opting for 919 Forged.
There's more loft and less face spring so you're likely to give up a bit of distance. If your game is improving though and you're really after a forged 'feel' (sound) then the 919 Forged could be a great option.
I'm my wife's carer so those club's are way out my price range but I can always dream I guess.
handicap means nothing to compare ball striking. ive seen scratch golfers with average swings but with an excellent short game
You look like that guy from kingsman
Not sure if that's a good or bad thing.
Good video but very uninteresting accountant presenting.
Mizuno JPX 919 Forged all day baby
Thanks for the feedback Adam, glad you got something out of it.
For me MP 32 until my f... death !
Handicap is misleading bc I can be a 12 who hits my irons like a 4 and chips and putts like a 20 ... anyhow good video boys
cwugrad396 Thanks for taking the time to say so. Completely agree on the handicaps, hence why we stress it's only a guide.
simondaddow I know it’s a cliche but go get fitted
" if your handicap is over 22, please don't use our irons."
As we say in the video, the handicap guides are just that 'a guide'. We're absolutely not saying Mizuno don't have a iron for a 28 handicapper. What we are saying is, there's probably more forgiving, easy to hit iron options out there for a higher handicapper.
You think that is confusing? Read the arcane rules of Golf. Try to learn the golf swing by listening to all the "experts". Enjoy paying 500 bucks for a driver. Try playing behind players with no hand eye coordination, no course awareness, and whose goal is to gamble and make the round last as long as possible. What a game!!
PLAYED ALL THE MP MODELS , EXCELLENT EXCELLENT CLUBS .