These types of review are the best on the internet, how you show all models of a certain brand, their specs, etc. I especially like the handicap "buckets" you put each club in. Like you say in the video, most manufacturers don't want to cover this, but it is very helpful to the average golf consumer, trying to narrow which style of club they need to test within each manufacturer. Great job guys!
Kudos to you both. Love this intelligent approach for reviewing golf clubs. This is invaluable information and to think someone tuning in on UA-cam can avail themselves to such specific knowledge is amazing.
Love these reviews. Way to step up and make some guides for us. I actually saw a review from a Callaway rep and said the same handicap suggestions for apex pro and apex as you guys. Spot on . Cheers
Great review here! I'm a hockey player and trying to get the right model. I appreciate you guys breaking each model down and comparing them. It really helped me to get a better understanding of what I need. I'm on a budget and looking for some used Rogue X irons with a regular flex. The ones I am finding are stiff. I have a decent wrist shot and not much strength, so I', thinking the Rogue regular flex would work better for me.
Love the format and the data/specs you guys show.. However, I am a average golfer and have been looking for a very forgiving iron with a large head - but very little of no offset. I don't like the offset .. I love Rogues or Big Bertha irons (bigger heads and forgiving, but too much offset.) It would be nice if the Rogues or Big Bertha would offer low offset version (in the 2.5mm to 2.8 mm range - 7 iron). I think this would be a huge seller - since it is impossible to find a max forgiving, large headed iron with low offset.
Nice bit of feedback, thanks for sharing. Have you looked at any Japanese irons, we were very impressed with the Honma TWorld 747 P. Admittedly they are game improver, not super game improver but they are reasonably sized with not too much offset. Link below to our review. www.todaysgolfer.co.uk/equipment/golf-clubs/irons/honma/tour-world/honma-t-world-747-irons/
@@todaysgolfer Thanks so much for the suggestion about the Honma TWworld 747 P iron. I did some more research and I think I would like to try them.. I need them customized a bit (+2 upright - I think).. But they do have less offset .. Thanks again for the exellent suggestion.
Great video. I have tried the Rogue, it performed really well for me, very easy to hit, very high ball flight but the top line is incredibly thick and I found very off putting. If you can overlook that flaw then it is a very good club for 10-24 HCP. I loved the Apex CF16s and the 19s are even better. The one think that would worry me would be whether Callaway have solved the flyer ball problem that caused me not to buy the CF16s. From what I can tell the 19s are better than the 16s on this, but it is still noticeable. I really want to try the Apex Pro. As a 10 HCP it might not be the club for me, but it sure looks good
I'm old, stiff, never very good, and I carry the Callaway Rogue X hybrids (3 & 5) and irons in an A-flex, but still use my beloved 10.5 degree Fusion FT-3 driver with a regular flex graphite shaft. Helps me shoot "younger". Suggest you get an arthritic pensioner to test your Rogue X irons. ;-)
Great to hear Raul. The world is your oyster really. If it were us we'd be looking at some of the award winning category 4 irons on the link below. bit.ly/2XfGgxf
I purchased the rogue x direct from Callaway but wasn't aware they required a higher bsll flight to maximize distance. I am more of a line drive flight. I am looking at the new big bertha21 irons but I am not sure the higher flight will offset distance lost. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Hi, we haven't hit the Big Bertha B21 irons yet, but the idea is they are a full on super game improving model. We have more on our website here bit.ly/2E9q5ea Don't be too afraid of hitting the ball higher, height helps shots stay in the air for longer and cover off more yards. Give the B21 a try alongside the Rogue X and you'll be able to gauge the difference, it should be easily spotted by eye and on a launch monitor.
Thanks Rick, very much appreciated. We have done them for Ping, TaylorMade and Mizuno, below. We were hoping to update them for 2020 before our Covid lockdown. Will probably do them now as new iron ranges are revealed going forward. Ping: ua-cam.com/video/jR54jQuWN38/v-deo.html TaylorMade: ua-cam.com/video/MIuDfr9gD1Y/v-deo.html Mizuno: ua-cam.com/video/lsK0dfnw7_o/v-deo.html
What advice could you give someone who’s fairly new to golfing (4-6 months) but has an above average swing speed? Driver speed on the simulator ranges from 107-115
Welcome aboard Kevin, good to hear you're liking the series of videos. Truth is Titleist insist we only use product which has been fitted to our tester. It essentially means we'd struggle to show a comparison between models, if we can only use the one our pro's been fitted for.
We'd be very careful with any product with 'Pro' in the name for a beginner Steve. If you're set on the Apex than just look at the standard model (or the new DCB in the current line up) but make no mistake the standard Apex is still designed as a players' distance iron. Hope that helps.
Good video overall. It does leave me with the question what is an average swing speed? Does swing speed equate to handicap? I believe I swing my 7 iron at about 70 mph . Is this average or slow in your opinion.
Good question Lynn. As a general rule it's accepted that as handicaps get lower, swing speeds tend to increase, which comes down to improved technique. But that's only a rule of thumb, there are of course exceptions. Typically 7-iron swing speed is 80% of driver speed and PW is 75%. So if an average driver speed is accepted as 93mph, an average 7-iron speed would be 75mph. Possibly a 70mph swing speed for a 7-iron is a fraction below average. Does that help?
I'm have a low handicap (3 or 4) but iron play is the weakest part of my game. I have Rogue X irons now but was leaning towards Big Bertha. I have a medium swing speed and generally have a low ball flight. Thoughts??
Thanks for the question Paul. How do you find the Rogue X? Is ball flight a bit low? Can you stop shots on a green? How do you find distance? What would you hope for switching to Big Bertha?
We're just compiling these features for 2020 Wira. You can view the 2019 version on our website on the link below. This will be updated within the next couple of weeks to feature all of this years irons. bit.ly/3cjAuzt
So the apex combo set would be good for someone around 8 or 9 handicap? Also the new elevate shaft promotes a higher flight due to lower lofts is that correct? So assuming that is correct someone who has no trouble launching the ball should b Maybe look to another shaft? I have a stiff shaft 105g and hit the ball high so I'm looking for a slightly heavier shaft just to knock a couple of yards off peak height any recommendations to try out?.
Your assumptions are all correct Jamie. Which 105g shaft are you currently using? Dynamic Gold? As a little test it might be nice to give the traditional Dynamic Gold a try. We're not saying it would be a good fit, but will give you a good idea of how much you can affect shot height with shafts. Let us know how it goes.
@@todaysgolfer I'm currently using true temper xp105 stepless, I tried the elevate tour stiff shaft the weekend and it was too heavy / inconsistent so I'm thinking kbs tour v (110gram) or kbs c temper lite (110gram)both in stiff. I think they will be the right fit.
I'm a 16 hcp, 65 years old, I play twice to three times a week in a narrow golf course. I have been playing with Callaway X22 irons since they were launched almost 10 years ago and Taylormade Burner fairway woods, driver and hybrids. I live in Brazil where I have not the least opportunity to test new clubs. I love my clubs but I believe that new clubs (new technics) would give me more distance and forgiveness. I've read numerous reviews but can't make up my mind. I would very much appreciate if you could give me some advise.Tks
Hi Maria, thanks for the comment, completely understand you are looking for individual advice, and how difficult it maybe to get it in Brazil. It's really difficult/misleading to give advice when we know nothing about your game. Technology has moved on massively from the models of iron and woods you mention. So it's highly likely you'd see a reasonable gain in terms of ball speed and distance by switching to newer models. As a starting point we'd be inclined to look at some of the new fast faced irons (Callaway Apex possibly, TaylorMade M6, Ping G700) on the market or even the new hybrid irons (Cleveland Launcher HB Turbo are great) which are appearing for 2020. Driver wise, it's difficult to find a driver that hasn't been updated since the model you mention, and to be fair all of the major models for 2019 were very evenly matched, at reasonable swing speeds. If you can't get to try them focus on how each makes you feel, and which inspires confidence for you, for whatever reason. Does that help?
Thank you for the very solid comparison. I have only 7 Rogue X iron which I bought one year ago and I didn't play it. Now I took it from garage and it seems to be easy to hit and soft. It has recoil shaft. Do you think a Rogue irons will be much difficult than Rogue X for 24 HCP player?
Thank you for this analysis. I am a 6 handicap and enjoy playing the Rogue. What I would really like to know is the dispersion of each model. How much difference in the distance does each model have? Are some more consistent than others? Thanks!
Thanks for the comment Dan. The reason we don't really include dispersion is because it can be a really misleading metric. We've seen days with a driver, where a test pro can hit shots into a 5 yard dispersion circle, yet come back a week later and can't group shots with the same driver into a 25 yard dispersion circle. We tend more to look at drop off between longest and shortest shots and fastest and slowest ball speeds, which are much more likely to be repeated on subsequent test days.
Club manufacturers tell us that their irons help us gain more distance... So we sell our set and buy another expensive set..... Rather take ur forged irons to a quality fitter and have them all bent 2 degrees stronger..... I did.... Now i hot my 7 iron longer than most guys and they think it's because of my shafts
I have watched your videos for Taylor Made, Callaway and Mizuno (all very informative and good) and there seem to be more irons suitable to 12 and below handicappers. Why do you think that is the case when the average male golfer plays off 18-ish? Do we all buy the wrong clubs believing we are better than what we really are? Ambitious purchase? It seems wrong, considering how hard everyone is pushing for custom fitting.
Really good question Peter. Everything you mention probably plays a role, but also as golfers get better, they probably get more picky too. From our viewpoint forged irons have made a strong come back after a period around 2012 - 2015 where it looked like less and less brands were producing them. Hollow body irons have also opened up a new category too, which tend to be more aimed at above average golfers. At the end of the day, golfers maybe tend to make choices based on our 'best' shots rather than our 'average' shots.
Know your Handicap and it will make it a lot easier to select the right irons.. And do say your Handicap is better than it really is. If you are High Handicap get clubs to help you improve your score. Don't buy Blades unless you are Low Handicap..
Applying handicaps to the irons is not a bad idea but should not be taken as a given. We all know mid to high handicappers who strike their woods and irons unbelievably, but have a very poor short game or cannot putt .
Absolutely agree Peter, designers always have a target player in mind when designing woods, irons etc, but there's always exceptions to the rule. We like to think of them as a guide, but not hard and fast rules.
Primarily because golfers don't go get fitted and try a 6 iron from one set and an 8 iron from another. Virtually all will try the 6 or 7 iron from each set. We test what the manufacturers make. Getting a 6 iron loft to launch through an 8 iron window is much more a reality today than ever. It's leading to quite a bit of chatter around how 'spec sheets' are too one dimensional to tell the story of how an iron really performs in the hands of golfers.
Thanks for the comment Aart, we're based in the UK, where the maximum mens handicap is 28. As we say in the video, the handicaps are just a guide, not hard and fast rules, they're there to help golfers identify which models might suit them, not to sell them any particular model.
These types of review are the best on the internet, how you show all models of a certain brand, their specs, etc. I especially like the handicap "buckets" you put each club in. Like you say in the video, most manufacturers don't want to cover this, but it is very helpful to the average golf consumer, trying to narrow which style of club they need to test within each manufacturer. Great job guys!
Thank you so much for taking the time to say so Jim.
Great presentation! Very easy to understand and compare! One of the best I have seen on UA-cam!
Thank you for taking the time to feedback Paul, very much appreciate it.
Kudos to you both. Love this intelligent approach for reviewing golf clubs. This is invaluable information and to think someone tuning in on UA-cam can avail themselves to such specific knowledge is amazing.
Thank you so much for taking the time to feedback Mike, really appreciate your comments.
What a great summary of the whole range! The comparison figures and the recommended handicaps for each one are very useful thank you 👍😁
Thanks so much for taking the time to say so Marc, really appreciate the feedback.
Best review I've seen. Thanks for taking the time.
Thank you! This is exactly what I have been looking for, for days now :D Cheers!
This is exactly what I was looking for as I search for some new irons. Great video!
Thanks Faustine, good luck with the search.
Love these reviews. Way to step up and make some guides for us. I actually saw a review from a Callaway rep and said the same handicap suggestions for apex pro and apex as you guys. Spot on . Cheers
Thanks for taking the time to say so, glad we could help.
I absolutely love this series, as someone who is improving to a
Thanks for the comment Brandon, glad we could help.
Great review here! I'm a hockey player and trying to get the right model. I appreciate you guys breaking each model down and comparing them. It really helped me to get a better understanding of what I need. I'm on a budget and looking for some used Rogue X irons with a regular flex. The ones I am finding are stiff. I have a decent wrist shot and not much strength, so I', thinking the Rogue regular flex would work better for me.
Thanks for the feedback Nibal, really appreciate you taking the time. Simon has been playing Rogue X irons for 4 years.
Great job Guys! Just hit subscribe. I was stuck between the Rouge or Apex. Since I'm a 19 hc you made the decision for me. Thanks, Rouge it is!
Glad we could help Cory, enjoy the new irons.
Would the x forged be comparable to the taylormade p760?
Love the format and the data/specs you guys show.. However, I am a average golfer and have been looking for a very forgiving iron with a large head - but very little of no offset. I don't like the offset .. I love Rogues or Big Bertha irons (bigger heads and forgiving, but too much offset.) It would be nice if the Rogues or Big Bertha would offer low offset version (in the 2.5mm to 2.8 mm range - 7 iron). I think this would be a huge seller - since it is impossible to find a max forgiving, large headed iron with low offset.
Nice bit of feedback, thanks for sharing. Have you looked at any Japanese irons, we were very impressed with the Honma TWorld 747 P. Admittedly they are game improver, not super game improver but they are reasonably sized with not too much offset. Link below to our review.
www.todaysgolfer.co.uk/equipment/golf-clubs/irons/honma/tour-world/honma-t-world-747-irons/
@@todaysgolfer Thanks for the tip on those irons.. I will check then out.
@@todaysgolfer Thanks so much for the suggestion about the Honma TWworld 747 P iron. I did some more research and I think I would like to try them.. I need them customized a bit (+2 upright - I think).. But they do have less offset .. Thanks again for the exellent suggestion.
i like your scientific approach rather than the feel of one golfer well done
Thanks for taking the time to say so, it's very much appreciated.
Great video.
I have tried the Rogue, it performed really well for me, very easy to hit, very high ball flight but the top line is incredibly thick and I found very off putting. If you can overlook that flaw then it is a very good club for 10-24 HCP.
I loved the Apex CF16s and the 19s are even better. The one think that would worry me would be whether Callaway have solved the flyer ball problem that caused me not to buy the CF16s. From what I can tell the 19s are better than the 16s on this, but it is still noticeable.
I really want to try the Apex Pro. As a 10 HCP it might not be the club for me, but it sure looks good
Great feedback Justin.
No mention of the rogue pro. Is that because there is really no place for it?
I'm old, stiff, never very good, and I carry the Callaway Rogue X hybrids (3 & 5) and irons in an A-flex, but still use my beloved 10.5 degree Fusion FT-3 driver with a regular flex graphite shaft. Helps me shoot "younger". Suggest you get an arthritic pensioner to test your Rogue X irons. ;-)
I learned to play last year. What clubs should I buy?
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Great to hear Raul. The world is your oyster really.
If it were us we'd be looking at some of the award winning category 4 irons on the link below.
bit.ly/2XfGgxf
Yes much clearer. Thanks for your reply.
I purchased the rogue x direct from Callaway but wasn't aware they required a higher bsll flight to maximize distance. I am more of a line drive flight. I am looking at the new big bertha21 irons but I am not sure the higher flight will offset distance lost. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Hi, we haven't hit the Big Bertha B21 irons yet, but the idea is they are a full on super game improving model. We have more on our website here bit.ly/2E9q5ea
Don't be too afraid of hitting the ball higher, height helps shots stay in the air for longer and cover off more yards.
Give the B21 a try alongside the Rogue X and you'll be able to gauge the difference, it should be easily spotted by eye and on a launch monitor.
Thanks for your insight
Hi, just came across your video. Can any of those be adjusted? Like change their lie angle? Or their specs are fixed out of the box?
Great review guys and some awesome insight here 👍
Thanks Will.
Guys. I'm torn between Apex and Rouge PRO, why didnt u test those? How do those 2 compare in terms of overall forgiveness, feel, sound and handicap?
Dave Keppler For us it would be Apex all day long, in our opinion just a nicer all round iron. Handicap wise the pair would be similar.
Another great review for all the reasons below. Do you plan to do this for more manufacturers??? Thx
Thanks Rick, very much appreciated. We have done them for Ping, TaylorMade and Mizuno, below.
We were hoping to update them for 2020 before our Covid lockdown. Will probably do them now as new iron ranges are revealed going forward.
Ping:
ua-cam.com/video/jR54jQuWN38/v-deo.html
TaylorMade:
ua-cam.com/video/MIuDfr9gD1Y/v-deo.html
Mizuno:
ua-cam.com/video/lsK0dfnw7_o/v-deo.html
What advice could you give someone who’s fairly new to golfing (4-6 months) but has an above average swing speed? Driver speed on the simulator ranges from 107-115
Probably not to give up the speed for control. Speed is a great thing to have in the modern game. And don't make the game harder than it needs to be.
Hey guys! I’m a new subscriber and I really like this series of videos. Will you be doing Titleist irons?
Welcome aboard Kevin, good to hear you're liking the series of videos. Truth is Titleist insist we only use product which has been fitted to our tester.
It essentially means we'd struggle to show a comparison between models, if we can only use the one our pro's been fitted for.
Today's Golfer that’s too bad. I really wanted to see the difference between AP1, AP2 and AP3. Also see your handicap rating
I know their not on this list but are the apex pro 16 irons any good for beginners? I'm looking for a set and I like the Callaway range .
We'd be very careful with any product with 'Pro' in the name for a beginner Steve.
If you're set on the Apex than just look at the standard model (or the new DCB in the current line up) but make no mistake the standard Apex is still designed as a players' distance iron.
Hope that helps.
Good video overall. It does leave me with the question what is an average swing speed? Does swing speed equate to handicap? I believe I swing my 7 iron at about 70 mph . Is this average or slow in your opinion.
Good question Lynn. As a general rule it's accepted that as handicaps get lower, swing speeds tend to increase, which comes down to improved technique. But that's only a rule of thumb, there are of course exceptions.
Typically 7-iron swing speed is 80% of driver speed and PW is 75%. So if an average driver speed is accepted as 93mph, an average 7-iron speed would be 75mph.
Possibly a 70mph swing speed for a 7-iron is a fraction below average.
Does that help?
Thanks, great video!
Thanks for taking the time to say so. Appreciated.
I'm have a low handicap (3 or 4) but iron play is the weakest part of my game. I have Rogue X irons now but was leaning towards Big Bertha. I have a medium swing speed and generally have a low ball flight. Thoughts??
Thanks for the question Paul. How do you find the Rogue X? Is ball flight a bit low? Can you stop shots on a green? How do you find distance?
What would you hope for switching to Big Bertha?
Whats the different between Apex Forge CF19 and Mavrik/Rogue Pro ? which one of it better for lower handicap?
We're just compiling these features for 2020 Wira. You can view the 2019 version on our website on the link below. This will be updated within the next couple of weeks to feature all of this years irons.
bit.ly/3cjAuzt
So the apex combo set would be good for someone around 8 or 9 handicap? Also the new elevate shaft promotes a higher flight due to lower lofts is that correct? So assuming that is correct someone who has no trouble launching the ball should b
Maybe look to another shaft? I have a stiff shaft 105g and hit the ball high so I'm looking for a slightly heavier shaft just to knock a couple of yards off peak height any recommendations to try out?.
Your assumptions are all correct Jamie. Which 105g shaft are you currently using? Dynamic Gold?
As a little test it might be nice to give the traditional Dynamic Gold a try. We're not saying it would be a good fit, but will give you a good idea of how much you can affect shot height with shafts.
Let us know how it goes.
@@todaysgolfer I'm currently using true temper xp105 stepless, I tried the elevate tour stiff shaft the weekend and it was too heavy / inconsistent so I'm thinking kbs tour v (110gram) or kbs c temper lite (110gram)both in stiff. I think they will be the right fit.
Should club speed be the same for a 9 iron vs a 5 iron ????
No Mike, the shorter shaft of a 9 iron will man you swing slower than a 5.
I'm a 16 hcp, 65 years old, I play twice to three times a week in a narrow golf course. I have been playing with Callaway X22 irons since they were launched almost 10 years ago and Taylormade Burner fairway woods, driver and hybrids. I live in Brazil where I have not the least opportunity to test new clubs. I love my clubs but I believe that new clubs (new technics) would give me more distance and forgiveness. I've read numerous reviews but can't make up my mind. I would very much appreciate if you could give me some advise.Tks
Hi Maria, thanks for the comment, completely understand you are looking for individual advice, and how difficult it maybe to get it in Brazil. It's really difficult/misleading to give advice when we know nothing about your game.
Technology has moved on massively from the models of iron and woods you mention. So it's highly likely you'd see a reasonable gain in terms of ball speed and distance by switching to newer models.
As a starting point we'd be inclined to look at some of the new fast faced irons (Callaway Apex possibly, TaylorMade M6, Ping G700) on the market or even the new hybrid irons (Cleveland Launcher HB Turbo are great) which are appearing for 2020.
Driver wise, it's difficult to find a driver that hasn't been updated since the model you mention, and to be fair all of the major models for 2019 were very evenly matched, at reasonable swing speeds. If you can't get to try them focus on how each makes you feel, and which inspires confidence for you, for whatever reason.
Does that help?
Thank you for the very solid comparison. I have only 7 Rogue X iron which I bought one year ago and I didn't play it. Now I took it from garage and it seems to be easy to hit and soft. It has recoil shaft. Do you think a Rogue irons will be much difficult than Rogue X for 24 HCP player?
From our testing the pair will be very comparable in terms of forgiveness Pawel. Rogue X is much more about the stronger loft, than extra forgiveness.
Thank you for this analysis. I am a 6 handicap and enjoy playing the Rogue. What I would really like to know is the dispersion of each model. How much difference in the distance does each model have? Are some more consistent than others? Thanks!
Thanks for the comment Dan. The reason we don't really include dispersion is because it can be a really misleading metric.
We've seen days with a driver, where a test pro can hit shots into a 5 yard dispersion circle, yet come back a week later and can't group shots with the same driver into a 25 yard dispersion circle.
We tend more to look at drop off between longest and shortest shots and fastest and slowest ball speeds, which are much more likely to be repeated on subsequent test days.
Today's Golfer
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Where would the new mavrik irons land on this list?
Similar to Rogue. I have the apex and highly recommend.
man this is great review
Thank you so much for taking the time to say so, it's very much appreciated.
Where is the Callaway xr?
The XR isn't in Callaway's European line-up for 2020, so it wasn't included.
Today's Golfer oh i see. Well i think tho that the rogue is something for me! Really want Those clubs
@@robsjoo No problems Batman.
Today's Golfer lmao
You guys are bloddy amazing
Thanks Gary, we just enjoy helping others understand their golf gear.
Great video
Thanks for the feedback Leo
What about Rogue pro?
This was for 2019 Wira, we're just in the process of compiling the line up for 2020.
@@todaysgolfer Great! I love this series
@@wirarifqy8677 Pleased to hear it.
Club manufacturers tell us that their irons help us gain more distance... So we sell our set and buy another expensive set.....
Rather take ur forged irons to a quality fitter and have them all bent 2 degrees stronger..... I did.... Now i hot my 7 iron longer than most guys and they think it's because of my shafts
This was great!
Dave Wilkins Thanks for taking the time to say so, hopefully it was helpful/useful
I have watched your videos for Taylor Made, Callaway and Mizuno (all very informative and good) and there seem to be more irons suitable to 12 and below handicappers. Why do you think that is the case when the average male golfer plays off 18-ish? Do we all buy the wrong clubs believing we are better than what we really are? Ambitious purchase? It seems wrong, considering how hard everyone is pushing for custom fitting.
Really good question Peter. Everything you mention probably plays a role, but also as golfers get better, they probably get more picky too.
From our viewpoint forged irons have made a strong come back after a period around 2012 - 2015 where it looked like less and less brands were producing them.
Hollow body irons have also opened up a new category too, which tend to be more aimed at above average golfers.
At the end of the day, golfers maybe tend to make choices based on our 'best' shots rather than our 'average' shots.
Know your Handicap and it will make it a lot easier to select the right irons.. And do say your Handicap is better than it really is. If you are High Handicap get clubs to help you improve your score. Don't buy Blades unless you are Low Handicap..
Well said David.
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Applying handicaps to the irons is not a bad idea but should not be taken as a given. We all know mid to high handicappers who strike their woods and irons unbelievably, but have a very poor short game or cannot putt .
Absolutely agree Peter, designers always have a target player in mind when designing woods, irons etc, but there's always exceptions to the rule. We like to think of them as a guide, but not hard and fast rules.
You said every callaway iron, but you didn’t include the best irons of 2019, the epic forged!
Thanks for the comment, it's because the video was filmed in February 2019, when Epic Forged was just a pipe dream.
Chicken papaya
Why don’t you compare irons with similar lofts? This isn’t an apples to apples comparison.
Primarily because golfers don't go get fitted and try a 6 iron from one set and an 8 iron from another. Virtually all will try the 6 or 7 iron from each set.
We test what the manufacturers make.
Getting a 6 iron loft to launch through an 8 iron window is much more a reality today than ever. It's leading to quite a bit of chatter around how 'spec sheets' are too one dimensional to tell the story of how an iron really performs in the hands of golfers.
Where the epic iron!
The video was filmed in February when there was no Epic iron. Epic Forged wasn't launched until June/July.
In NL >72% of 450,000 golfers have a HCP 28 or more.....which Callaway clubs are for them ?? None ?
Thanks for the comment Aart, we're based in the UK, where the maximum mens handicap is 28.
As we say in the video, the handicaps are just a guide, not hard and fast rules, they're there to help golfers identify which models might suit them, not to sell them any particular model.
I have a hcp (EGA) of 24. I tested all of the Callaway 2019 irons myself and ended up with the Apex 19 as the best choise