Just an update on the knocking sound. Toyota has said there is a problem and they are now investigating. We recently tested a Sahara ZX (review coming soon) and it also had the knocking sound. Statement from Toyota below: Full details: www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/toyota-investigating-landcruiser-300-series-knocking-noise “Toyota Australia has identified that on some LC300 vehicles, a light knocking noise may emanate from the front steering area whilst driving at low speed over small corrugations. “This is not detrimental to the operation of the steering or the vehicle. We have requested our Dealers report any instances of this occurring, to further support our investigation into this phenomenon,” it said.
Same issue with my FJ cruiser, it may be the rubber vibration damper fitted to the steering column according to some online research I've done. Knowing Toyota it may be a similar design across the models.
I'm a Toyota fan through out. The stuff they've been coming out with over the past 5 - 6 years has made the world excited. As much as Toyota has been doing an excellent job... Paul you've been doing just as good of a job as a car reviewer. I'm officially hand you your flowers. Thank you
As far as I know, that suspension knock or "popping" sound coming from the front (especially when you are turning the wheel, or articulating) is pretty common on off-road Toyota trucks and SUVs. There is an extension off the lower ball joint housing. It is a steering stop that is meant to interface and make contact with the reinforcement on the lower front wishbone. So when you are turning, it can make a contact at some instances. I think the idea is that it is better to have the two pieces making contact rather than the hydraulic rack and pinion binding up within itself.
Its a crime that Toyota only let GR LC to get the front and rear lockers. In my opinion it should be sanded across all LC ( for the price) At lest it should have been an option for consumers to add to their LC's.
@@ABUHEGEL Middle eastern batch are different. Toyota decides it by market. In Russia you'll also find them in lower grade but not in Australia or Europe.
Carwow used to be my favourite UA-cam channel about cars, but now Carwow is at 2nd number and CarExpert is at 1st in my list. It's another thing that i don't have a car, but wish to have a good car in near future while upgrading from motor bike 😄😄😄
Honestly speaking, front and rear lockers should be standard on all Toyota 4wds including the Hilux/Fortuner and Prado. Sad that its only in the LC70 and LC300 GR Sport.
@@austinlodge6462 most of Toyota's 4wds come with the rear locker as standard, not both front and rear lockers like the two cars mentioned above. Most customers are forced to get after market front lockers.
@@AD28197 in my experience it honestly would be more beneficial if they were going the route to put only one locker in the less premium models to have a front locker and LSD instead of a rear locker.
In the early 2000s had the most pleasure of having a vx land cruiser company car, the best 4wd i have ever driven, on and off road, and i come from a military and law enforcement background having used many off road vehicles. But that v8 turbo charged diesel was to die for, limo on the road, pulled our 3 tonne parol vessel and capable in the rough
@@austinlodge6462 In the middle east, we have 3 engines offered. the twin turbo diesel, the old 4.0 naturally aspirated v6 patrol engine and the twin turbo patrol (the most popular option)
You mean rear and center lock? Because here in the gxr we get rear and center lock which is low mid grade, and we get center and rear locker in the VX as well which is mid high grade. Vxr is the high grade and again it has only 2 lockers center and rear. I’ve seen only the GR sport to get all 3 lockers here in Kurdistan region Even though center and rear lockers is more than sufficient for 99% of terrain it would be nice to have 3 lockers on mid grades up
Interesting they don't offer offroad features on lower trims, I don't think a lot of the 4WD guys will want to fork out 150k+ for a GR sport. You'd think they'd focus a bit on the GX/GXL trims for those guys.
Easily the ultimate stock vehicle for off road use combined with exceptional on road capability. I'd like to see recovery points and easy winch fitting.
When you engage a locker it doesn't split the torque, it actually does the opposite. An open diff actually splits the torque evenly, and this is a problem when one tire is slipping because it only allows the same amount of torque to be used. The amount of torque needed to make one tire slip is the same amount of torque the other tire that has more traction is getting. What a locker does is makes all the wheels spin the same amount, and when this happens, all of the torque can be used by one tire. imagine you have ice under 3 wheels and one wheel is on dry pavement. with a locker all the torque is being sent to the wheel with the traction. with an open diff only as much torque as is required to spin the wheels on ice gets sent to the tire with traction. The simplest analogue would be trying to move a vehicle. -A locker would be like if you took two ropes, and attached each one separately to the left and right corner of the vehicle, then pulled the end of each rope with a separate hand. you can let go of one ropes and still pull the vehicle, only the rope pulling is under tension. If you pull the vehicle from the side only one rope can be under tension, the other will have some slack. -An open diff would be like if you took a rope and ran it through a pulley attached to the vehicle, then then used one hand on each end of the rope to pull the vehicle. no matter how hard you pull with one hand, the other hand has to pull the same amount because the pulley allows tension to be even along the length of the rope. If you let go with one hand, the other hand has nothing to pull against, there is no tension. if you need to pull from the side you can since the pulley distributes the length of the rope.
Came to write exactly this. An irrational pet hate of mine when car reviewers and even offroad experts say that a locked diff splits torque 50/50. As you say, an open diff gives you a 50/50 split (and if one wheel is in the air you get close to zero torque on either end of the axle). A locked diff just ensure both wheels are spinning at the same speed, and the torque split is entirely dependent on the grip available to the wheels.
Potato, potato? Your theory is a bit flawed when all wheels have contact equally. A lock diff is 50/50 a open diff is dependent on traction/ turning. If you lift a wheel on a differential that wheel gets 100% of the power.
@@veneratedmortal4369 That is what almost everyone gets wrong. An open diff will give you 50/50 torque split (i.e. the same torque to both wheels), all the time, regardless of the surface you are on. If you have one wheel in the air, and one on the ground, you get close to zero torque as you can only deliver as much to the wheel on the ground as the wheel in the air takes to spin. This is why braked traction control systems actually work (to a degree) as they can apply the brakes to the wheel in the air, allowing the wheel on the ground to receive the same torque as the wheel in the air needs to overcome the resistance from the brakes. A locked diff on the other hand is just that, locked. If you have a wheel on the ground and one in the air you get 100% of the torque to the wheel on the ground, and none to the wheel in the air. Don't think of torque as something flowing from the motor, think of it as something consumed by resistance. If you lift the whole car up and have all four wheels in the air the motor will barely generate any torque, just enough to overcome the inertia and drag of the drivetrain before hitting the rev-limiter. This is why dyno benches offer a resistance to the drive wheels in order to measure what torque (and hence power) is generated. Edit: A thought experiment that might help. Imagine you have your truck in 2H, rear diff locked. In case a) you have both wheels on tarmac. In case b) you have one wheel on tarmac and one on ice. In which of these cases do you think it will be easier to spin the rear tires? Answer, case b) - you have the same torque available from the engine, but only half the traction available to stop you from spinning. If a locked diff split torque 50/50, that wouldn't matter, as you would only have half the torque to each wheel, but we intuitively know this is not correct.
Yes this is correct! I really hate that nearly every car reviewer does not know the physics behind an open and locked diff. Open diff: even torque between wheels. Locked diff: even rotation speed between wheels.
A locking diff, DOES NOT have a 50-50 torque distribution all the time. Thats what an open diff does and thats why an open diff fails to get a vehicle out of sticky situation, on or off road. A locking diff, locks the wheels in the same speed, as the journalist correctly pointed out at first, but the torque distribution varies as the diff is locked sending more torque to the wheel with most traction like a torque sensing diff and the torque split can even be as extreme as 100-0, depending on the diff ajd the situation. When unlocked, a simple licking diff works as an open diff, or a torque sensing diff in more complicated forms.
Planning on buying a Towable Boat Stabicraft 27500 weight is 7,000 lbs, how will it tow behind this SUV? Looking to buy this LandCruiser GR Sport, How much fully loaded?
Greetings Paul. Another great video. Well done. One thing I appreciate about the LC300 in comparison to the LC200 is the crawl control. They seem to have improved it a lot in the LC300 and doesn't sound like the car is going to break. Does the GR variant feel sportier to drive than the normal LC300?
Your reviews are great, but I’d love you to have another channel for older cars but review them in the same way. Would just love to be able to compare cars. Like this to a 100 series on the same tracks etc.
Paul, I hope you are having a happy holiday season. About one month ago I commented that you should test every Land Cruiser model in every colour. I am thrilled to see you are following my suggestion. :D
@@rmanningau absolutely, no manufacturer is perfect. Regardless of what the fanboys say. I just feel like Toyota does far better when it comes to quality than LR. But LR does far better than anyone when it comes to sheer off-road capability on stock standard vehicles (minus the low profile tires).
great review thanks but i have a question with the ZX it don't have a back and front lockers for the price I'm disappointed but would the limited slip diff work like a locker , and how would it go off road ?
The stupid thing is a factory fitted pair of diff locks would only cost a few hundred dollars extra to fit and that would be trivial on the new purchase price
Toyota seems to have more focus on road driving and towing. When are they going to build an offroader focused car like Wrangler and Bronco? US leads the world in that respect. I do like the 300 for it's comfort capability and performance but things like the rear fuel filter should not have happened and the alternater being low is a problem for mud and water.
Agree that Toyota should build a modular off road biased vehicle. In relation to the 300 it is built to suit the target market. Most 200’s where I live do general duties and not much if any off road.
Toyota don't have any focus. Their 4 X 4 lineup is a dog's breakfast: 1 Hilux 2 Fortuner 3 70 Series 4 300 Series 5 Prado All other manufacturers have 2 4x4 models.
good review seen two on the road look good have you seen fullboost video , the team at the Auto Innovation Centre in Melbourne have wasted no time in pulling it down for 3D scanning
Could you do a separate video on central diff locks, front differential locks and rear differential locks? I kind of got lost how they worked. When you turned on central differential locks, I thought it was supposed to make all four wheel rotate at the same speed and send 50/50 torque up front and rear. And in your next venture, you turned on both front and rear differential locks which, I perceived, did the same thing as central differential. I’m so confused. Okay, clearly now you know that I had never owned such a hardcore 4x4 machine ever. But I’m looking forward to upgrading to one. Just wanted to learn all the technical stuff about differential before investing my money. Or do you already have a video on differentials on your channel?
When central diff lock front and rear wheels move at the same speed but not left to right and when rear or front diff lock both left and right move at the same speed, so if central, front and rear diff are locks all four wheels move at the same speed even when just one wheel has traction.
@@tlvsaventure2507 : Thanks for the information but now I have question: With central diff turn on, front and rear wheels move at the same speed. Does that mean both the front wheels will move at the same speed as the rear wheels or the front-right will move at a speed corresponding to the rear-right wheels and front-left wheels at a speed corresponding rear-left wheel? Though, I now get it how front and rear diff locks works that locks the wheels corresponding to the selected differential locks to move at the same speed. With front diff locks, both the front wheel will move with the same speed and same with the rear diff locks. I also have doubts regarding 2H, 4H and 4L. Okay, I know 4L is for very specific purpose where one need a lot of torque at low speed. But confused between 4H and 2H and when to use them. I just watched a video on this channel explaining what they did and when to use them but so confused again. 4H, as it says 4 High, can be applied at high speed with power sending to all four wheels. But the video explained that when power is sent to front axle as well, it can cause a mini burnout while turning since the inner wheels tends to rotate faster than outer wheels. This might not be an issue on loose surface but on a pitched surface, that might damage the transmission due to high traction. With 2H, the front axle is free to move with no power sent to either wheel and hence no burden on transmission. Does that mean one should never drive on 4H on a pitched road? And if 4H can cause damage to transmissions on a pitched surface, how does cars with permanent AWD able to not damage the transmission? Most importantly, why does it say 4H when it has the potential to damage the transmission at high speeds? Shouldn’t 4H be meant for driving all the four wheels at high speed?
@@LuvvSURYA it's sound like you need to watch how differential works there a lot of good video out there. Part time or 4x4 has only front and rear differential while All wheel drive/fulltime 4x4 has front, real and central differencial and the differecial in the central that allow the car to use four wheels without damaging the diff by spliting the torque front and back. You can use 4H in part time 4x4 in road that allowed the wheels to slip such as sand, mud, snow or dirt road.
Like the BMW G Series Motorcycle .... Aussies will form an orderly by demeaning line @ Dealers to pay almost double overseas prices for a new Toyota Landcruiser ..... They will have NO Idea when it will be delivered or the Price they will eventually Pay .... But watching it's Potential on UA-cam will satisfy those with more self respect ...
Turn Assist won’t work with rear diff lock. Something would break. You can’t lock a wheel and force it to rotate the same speed as the other one on the same axle unless both are locked ie Park Brake. Also when doing locker tests should always test unlocked, then just centre if an option, just rear, then just front (if vehicle has one), then all. Pointless going from none to all.
I think people generally know how well lockers work. I think center vs all is fine. All off its the same as a 2wd up that hill. Traction control vs all lockers would be a good test, even then everyone knows traction control is rubbish and lockers are amazing.
@@veneratedmortal4369 All off is nothing like 2WD. Also modern traction control is amazing. Just watch the Defender whip the LC300 and Nissan Patrol with just traction control. Clearly you have no idea how good modern traction control can be. Lockers have a use yes but they are not the be all and end all. Often you don’t want wheels rotating at the same speed at all due to the surface below - High friction rocks for example.
@@jerrymyahzcat if you get a wheel in the air without the centre locked your not going to move same as with 2wd. I have seen all the traction controls in the world, they are getting better but guess what, you go as far as you can with traction on and then get stuck and put your lockers in. Traction control works by sensing wheel slipping, the wheel has to slip a significant amount before the computer realises as wheels are always turning slightly different rates. Then it does the grabbing dance game to work out where the power needs to go and how much. This is not a smooth process and never can be, being jerry results in the car swaying, unbalancing, wheels slipping etc. With a locker you just drive smooth and slow and keep your traction. (Big hill climbs). Most of the time you probably don't need any lockers as the load is quite equal on each wheel. If you can show me the same car with 3 lockers getting further with only traction enabled I would like to see it.
Man thats awesome to bad toyota in the past years only sold the most expensive version and not the base model tgen they say people weren't buying it well its because it was the price of a luxury car not a off road cappable suv and now its not sold in the USA
Don’t get me wrong here, but for a 150.000+ Euro’s car you eould expect a better fit&finish betwen the stearing wheel and column … Beside this… all looks great 🙂
150k Australian Dollar, which you will find is not even close to euros..... unless those US-mandated Ukraine sanctions has destroyed your economy to our level lol...
I realy don't get the spec of the new Land Cruiser, you literally can't have the best of them all, i.e. rear diff locks on Sahara 7 seater spec. Like why? Patrol gets this across all the range and is $40-50k driveaway cheaper.
I spent 10K having front & rear e-lockers installed on the Sahara. Aftermarket lockers allow you to run locked diff in high range as well as low & also if you only want to lock one diff the traction control system still works on the other diff as with oem lockers it's turned off.
nice car but 145 k plus, Tiyota just gave sales to the Nissan Patrol, you see, a new patrol with updated dash will be released and smash toyota in the sales department you see....
Waiting for the American’s to jump in and point out the Ford Bronco has turn assist - just imagine if Australia could get it’s hands on the full fat Bronco, perhaps this GR would have a smaller waiting list…
Just an update on the knocking sound. Toyota has said there is a problem and they are now investigating. We recently tested a Sahara ZX (review coming soon) and it also had the knocking sound. Statement from Toyota below:
Full details: www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/toyota-investigating-landcruiser-300-series-knocking-noise
“Toyota Australia has identified that on some LC300 vehicles, a light knocking noise may emanate from the front steering area whilst driving at low speed over small corrugations.
“This is not detrimental to the operation of the steering or the vehicle. We have requested our Dealers report any instances of this occurring, to further support our investigation into this phenomenon,” it said.
I’ve got this on my new Hilux too!
Same issue with my FJ cruiser, it may be the rubber vibration damper fitted to the steering column according to some online research I've done. Knowing Toyota it may be a similar design across the models.
All I can say is Toyota.
Is land cruiser 300 worth buying.
I am not into camping, over landing or even 4x4 trails, but I really want this Landcruiser
a bargain, really.
I'm a Toyota fan through out. The stuff they've been coming out with over the past 5 - 6 years has made the world excited. As much as Toyota has been doing an excellent job... Paul you've been doing just as good of a job as a car reviewer. I'm officially hand you your flowers. Thank you
As far as I know, that suspension knock or "popping" sound coming from the front (especially when you are turning the wheel, or articulating) is pretty common on off-road Toyota trucks and SUVs. There is an extension off the lower ball joint housing. It is a steering stop that is meant to interface and make contact with the reinforcement on the lower front wishbone. So when you are turning, it can make a contact at some instances. I think the idea is that it is better to have the two pieces making contact rather than the hydraulic rack and pinion binding up within itself.
you put a dab of grease on there and there will be no sound.
You explain all the tech very nicely and in real detail. Hats off to you 👍
Its a crime that Toyota only let GR LC to get the front and rear lockers. In my opinion it should be sanded across all LC ( for the price) At lest it should have been an option for consumers to add to their LC's.
Maybe not the Sahara type ones but definitely it should be an option to the base model, which is usually used as workhorse by people
@@tousifzaman9392 100% - Maybe in time they will add that in... But Not cool at this point of time.
The local dealer decides what type has's the diff locks the saudi dealer puts rear and front difflocks in the diesel gx which is the lowest grade
@@ABUHEGEL Middle eastern batch are different. Toyota decides it by market. In Russia you'll also find them in lower grade but not in Australia or Europe.
They were available in the 100 series, I have them in my gxl.
Carwow used to be my favourite UA-cam channel about cars, but now Carwow is at 2nd number and CarExpert is at 1st in my list. It's another thing that i don't have a car, but wish to have a good car in near future while upgrading from motor bike 😄😄😄
Thanks mate!
Honestly speaking, front and rear lockers should be standard on all Toyota 4wds including the Hilux/Fortuner and Prado. Sad that its only in the LC70 and LC300 GR Sport.
I may be wrong but I believe the rugged X has a rear diff lock
@@austinlodge6462 most of Toyota's 4wds come with the rear locker as standard, not both front and rear lockers like the two cars mentioned above. Most customers are forced to get after market front lockers.
@@AD28197 in my experience it honestly would be more beneficial if they were going the route to put only one locker in the less premium models to have a front locker and LSD instead of a rear locker.
In the early 2000s had the most pleasure of having a vx land cruiser company car, the best 4wd i have ever driven, on and off road, and i come from a military and law enforcement background having used many off road vehicles. But that v8 turbo charged diesel was to die for, limo on the road, pulled our 3 tonne parol vessel and capable in the rough
Im from UAE, we get front and rear diff locks on VX and VX.S trims, all gas models tho
UAE always had special, in Asia most of us are optional
Do you guys get the twin turbo v6 petrol?
@@austinlodge6462 In the middle east, we have 3 engines offered. the twin turbo diesel, the old 4.0 naturally aspirated v6 patrol engine and the twin turbo patrol (the most popular option)
Here in Africa even the VX.R trim gets a rear diff lock. The VX.R is almost close to what you call the ZX and Sahara which we don't get.
You mean rear and center lock? Because here in the gxr we get rear and center lock which is low mid grade, and we get center and rear locker in the VX as well which is mid high grade. Vxr is the high grade and again it has only 2 lockers center and rear.
I’ve seen only the GR sport to get all 3 lockers here in Kurdistan region
Even though center and rear lockers is more than sufficient for 99% of terrain it would be nice to have 3 lockers on mid grades up
Interesting they don't offer offroad features on lower trims, I don't think a lot of the 4WD guys will want to fork out 150k+ for a GR sport. You'd think they'd focus a bit on the GX/GXL trims for those guys.
Have you seen the 24/7 boys test the standard version pretty capable even without the diff locks
Yes I did watch that. It did great!
Easily the ultimate stock vehicle for off road use combined with exceptional on road capability. I'd like to see recovery points and easy winch fitting.
Hi Paul was waiting for this off-road review....and is great thanks paul
Thanks mate!
When you engage a locker it doesn't split the torque, it actually does the opposite. An open diff actually splits the torque evenly, and this is a problem when one tire is slipping because it only allows the same amount of torque to be used.
The amount of torque needed to make one tire slip is the same amount of torque the other tire that has more traction is getting. What a locker does is makes all the wheels spin the same amount, and when this happens, all of the torque can be used by one tire. imagine you have ice under 3 wheels and one wheel is on dry pavement. with a locker all the torque is being sent to the wheel with the traction. with an open diff only as much torque as is required to spin the wheels on ice gets sent to the tire with traction.
The simplest analogue would be trying to move a vehicle.
-A locker would be like if you took two ropes, and attached each one separately to the left and right corner of the vehicle, then pulled the end of each rope with a separate hand. you can let go of one ropes and still pull the vehicle, only the rope pulling is under tension. If you pull the vehicle from the side only one rope can be under tension, the other will have some slack.
-An open diff would be like if you took a rope and ran it through a pulley attached to the vehicle, then then used one hand on each end of the rope to pull the vehicle. no matter how hard you pull with one hand, the other hand has to pull the same amount because the pulley allows tension to be even along the length of the rope. If you let go with one hand, the other hand has nothing to pull against, there is no tension. if you need to pull from the side you can since the pulley distributes the length of the rope.
Came to write exactly this. An irrational pet hate of mine when car reviewers and even offroad experts say that a locked diff splits torque 50/50. As you say, an open diff gives you a 50/50 split (and if one wheel is in the air you get close to zero torque on either end of the axle). A locked diff just ensure both wheels are spinning at the same speed, and the torque split is entirely dependent on the grip available to the wheels.
Potato, potato? Your theory is a bit flawed when all wheels have contact equally. A lock diff is 50/50 a open diff is dependent on traction/ turning. If you lift a wheel on a differential that wheel gets 100% of the power.
@@veneratedmortal4369 That is what almost everyone gets wrong. An open diff will give you 50/50 torque split (i.e. the same torque to both wheels), all the time, regardless of the surface you are on. If you have one wheel in the air, and one on the ground, you get close to zero torque as you can only deliver as much to the wheel on the ground as the wheel in the air takes to spin. This is why braked traction control systems actually work (to a degree) as they can apply the brakes to the wheel in the air, allowing the wheel on the ground to receive the same torque as the wheel in the air needs to overcome the resistance from the brakes.
A locked diff on the other hand is just that, locked. If you have a wheel on the ground and one in the air you get 100% of the torque to the wheel on the ground, and none to the wheel in the air. Don't think of torque as something flowing from the motor, think of it as something consumed by resistance. If you lift the whole car up and have all four wheels in the air the motor will barely generate any torque, just enough to overcome the inertia and drag of the drivetrain before hitting the rev-limiter. This is why dyno benches offer a resistance to the drive wheels in order to measure what torque (and hence power) is generated.
Edit: A thought experiment that might help. Imagine you have your truck in 2H, rear diff locked. In case a) you have both wheels on tarmac. In case b) you have one wheel on tarmac and one on ice. In which of these cases do you think it will be easier to spin the rear tires? Answer, case b) - you have the same torque available from the engine, but only half the traction available to stop you from spinning. If a locked diff split torque 50/50, that wouldn't matter, as you would only have half the torque to each wheel, but we intuitively know this is not correct.
@@texnorthman and David, thanks for the explaination - that makes sense.
Yes this is correct! I really hate that nearly every car reviewer does not know the physics behind an open and locked diff. Open diff: even torque between wheels. Locked diff: even rotation speed between wheels.
Man I wish the US got this model!
Awesome beast, I love it. Great review by Paul as always. Merry Christmas 🎄 🤙🏼.
Thanks for watching!
After thoroughly watching all Lc300 reviews, comparos, and technical spec-by-spec analysis, I 've decided to buy a Sorento.
Haha!
A totally different, worse, cheaper vehicle.
@@larjkok1184 It's a highly-praised family car, but yeah that was just humorous from me. The Patrol is my dream car but I live in Europe...
Shame they don’t offer the GR sport’s off road package on a lower spec model, seems like it’s a Sahara with added extras.
Paul as usual, great review mate keep up the great work 👍
Great look at the GR Sport, thanks .
Thanks for watching!
A locking diff, DOES NOT have a 50-50 torque distribution all the time. Thats what an open diff does and thats why an open diff fails to get a vehicle out of sticky situation, on or off road. A locking diff, locks the wheels in the same speed, as the journalist correctly pointed out at first, but the torque distribution varies as the diff is locked sending more torque to the wheel with most traction like a torque sensing diff and the torque split can even be as extreme as 100-0, depending on the diff ajd the situation. When unlocked, a simple licking diff works as an open diff, or a torque sensing diff in more complicated forms.
Planning on buying a Towable Boat Stabicraft 27500 weight is 7,000 lbs, how will it tow behind this SUV? Looking to buy this LandCruiser GR Sport, How much fully loaded?
Best information. Thank you for explaining in layman terms. All the best buddy🍻🍻🍻
Greetings Paul. Another great video. Well done. One thing I appreciate about the LC300 in comparison to the LC200 is the crawl control. They seem to have improved it a lot in the LC300 and doesn't sound like the car is going to break. Does the GR variant feel sportier to drive than the normal LC300?
A friend has one, and is now selling his 200 series Sahara ~
Your reviews are great, but I’d love you to have another channel for older cars but review them in the same way. Would just love to be able to compare cars. Like this to a 100 series on the same tracks etc.
I literally have no idea what those buttons do but still watching because its a land crusier
Yea Hi Paul I would buy the GR Sport over the Patrol due to Front & Rear Diff locks which the Patrol doesn't have
Paul, I hope you are having a happy holiday season. About one month ago I commented that you should test every Land Cruiser model in every colour. I am thrilled to see you are following my suggestion. :D
Better than hyundai palisade and land Rover defender ??
Extremely informative. Loved this.
Thanks for watching!
@8:30 you talk about the EKDSS. How do you disconnect the sway bar? Is it automatic or linked to some sort of terrain select?
I think you Raptor may have turn assistance. I have had it added to my XLT and works well.
Thing is the Land Rover has deeper wading depth, higher departure and approach angle. I just that Toyota could have pushed harder in this release.
I agree. Although I always struggle to compare LR products to Toyotas because of the reliability issues with Land Rover.
@@davidsmaruj6761 fair enough but Toyota have had their share of recalls in recent years.
@@rmanningau absolutely, no manufacturer is perfect. Regardless of what the fanboys say.
I just feel like Toyota does far better when it comes to quality than LR.
But LR does far better than anyone when it comes to sheer off-road capability on stock standard vehicles (minus the low profile tires).
What was that button function @ 1:34 ?? That "fart" one...
I love this car it is very impresive
It'd be great if there's an off road review of the GX model
Dose it have the fridge
Yas.
do comparison between this and 200. full comparison
What ute/vehicle didn't pass the "open-the-door-flex-test"?
My 2013 Lexus LX570 had the turn assist.
Great review Paul. I am deciding between Sahara and this one and your review will help a lot for the decision. Btw where is this location??
Nice explanation! Tnx!
Great review, I assume the 300 has Toyota's A-Trac system?....it was never mentioned.
Greetings Paul,
My question is how does the traction control function with all the diffs locked?
Good point!
The traction controls slip of individual wheels so even if it is on it can't do anything if the centre front and rear diff are locked
Best SUV ever
great review thanks but i have a question with the ZX it don't have a back and front lockers for the price I'm disappointed but would the limited slip diff work like a locker , and how would it go off road ?
The stupid thing is a factory fitted pair of diff locks would only cost a few hundred dollars extra to fit and that would be trivial on the new purchase price
I'd go VX and add after market diff locks and pocket the 20K.
So would I. Kdss is nice tho.
Yep you could add a set of Harrop e lockers front and rear for around 5k fitted.
The turn assist is really a mega improvement. But does the Lc 300 have a driver assistant technology in it like the one in Subarus
is't mechanical fan or electric fan?
Toyota seems to have more focus on road driving and towing. When are they going to build an offroader focused car like Wrangler and Bronco? US leads the world in that respect. I do like the 300 for it's comfort capability and performance but things like the rear fuel filter should not have happened and the alternater being low is a problem for mud and water.
Agree that Toyota should build a modular off road biased vehicle. In relation to the 300 it is built to suit the target market. Most 200’s where I live do general duties and not much if any off road.
Toyota don't have any focus. Their 4 X 4 lineup is a dog's breakfast:
1 Hilux
2 Fortuner
3 70 Series
4 300 Series
5 Prado
All other manufacturers have 2 4x4 models.
Hi Paul, would you recommend purchasing a used Ford Falcon Ecolpi for fuel saving or is a hybrid Camry a better choice
Buy a fiesta if your looking for fuel savings
I have got a camry hybrid and its fuel economy and its quietness is amazing.
Where was this filmed. Looks familiar
Interesting there was still a bit of uneven spin with the diffs locked. May just be part of the locking process.
good review seen two on the road look good have you seen fullboost video , the team at the Auto Innovation Centre in Melbourne have wasted no time in pulling it down for 3D scanning
Is it bullet proof
Can you please tell us what color paint GR sport you are reviewing. Thanks 😊
It looks green to me…..
I believe the new Ford Bronco also has a turn-assist feature.
this is Arctic white?
Mate, does the Sahara ZX also gets the e-kdss? Or just the gr sport? Please reply me
gr only
I must have this car
Great Vid, thanks:-)
If you can't wait and want to jump the queue. A dealer in W.Aust has one for 195k....On a popular car sales web site....😄
Good looking car
Could you do a separate video on central diff locks, front differential locks and rear differential locks? I kind of got lost how they worked. When you turned on central differential locks, I thought it was supposed to make all four wheel rotate at the same speed and send 50/50 torque up front and rear. And in your next venture, you turned on both front and rear differential locks which, I perceived, did the same thing as central differential. I’m so confused.
Okay, clearly now you know that I had never owned such a hardcore 4x4 machine ever. But I’m looking forward to upgrading to one. Just wanted to learn all the technical stuff about differential before investing my money. Or do you already have a video on differentials on your channel?
When central diff lock front and rear wheels move at the same speed but not left to right and when rear or front diff lock both left and right move at the same speed, so if central, front and rear diff are locks all four wheels move at the same speed even when just one wheel has traction.
@@tlvsaventure2507 : Thanks for the information but now I have question: With central diff turn on, front and rear wheels move at the same speed. Does that mean both the front wheels will move at the same speed as the rear wheels or the front-right will move at a speed corresponding to the rear-right wheels and front-left wheels at a speed corresponding rear-left wheel? Though, I now get it how front and rear diff locks works that locks the wheels corresponding to the selected differential locks to move at the same speed. With front diff locks, both the front wheel will move with the same speed and same with the rear diff locks.
I also have doubts regarding 2H, 4H and 4L. Okay, I know 4L is for very specific purpose where one need a lot of torque at low speed. But confused between 4H and 2H and when to use them. I just watched a video on this channel explaining what they did and when to use them but so confused again. 4H, as it says 4 High, can be applied at high speed with power sending to all four wheels. But the video explained that when power is sent to front axle as well, it can cause a mini burnout while turning since the inner wheels tends to rotate faster than outer wheels. This might not be an issue on loose surface but on a pitched surface, that might damage the transmission due to high traction. With 2H, the front axle is free to move with no power sent to either wheel and hence no burden on transmission. Does that mean one should never drive on 4H on a pitched road? And if 4H can cause damage to transmissions on a pitched surface, how does cars with permanent AWD able to not damage the transmission? Most importantly, why does it say 4H when it has the potential to damage the transmission at high speeds? Shouldn’t 4H be meant for driving all the four wheels at high speed?
@@LuvvSURYA it's sound like you need to watch how differential works there a lot of good video out there. Part time or 4x4 has only front and rear differential while All wheel drive/fulltime 4x4 has front, real and central differencial and the differecial in the central that allow the car to use four wheels without damaging the diff by spliting the torque front and back. You can use 4H in part time 4x4 in road that allowed the wheels to slip such as sand, mud, snow or dirt road.
Damn, I’m jealous the rest of the world gets the 300 Series Land Cruiser and the USA only gets the LX 600. Hopefully one day we’ll get it.
All ifs 4x4s should come with a front locker as the cvs are taking all the brunt
Beast
Great test drive nice off roader not the sort of car I would buy to drive around the metro
host is superb
I hope this turns into the 4Runner
Like the BMW G Series Motorcycle .... Aussies will form an orderly by demeaning line @ Dealers to pay almost double overseas prices for a new Toyota Landcruiser ..... They will have NO Idea when it will be delivered or the Price they will eventually Pay .... But watching it's Potential on UA-cam will satisfy those with more self respect ...
Could you try everything in auto without selecting any of the options first?
A little bit pricey!! Now that’s an understatement if I’ve ever heard one.
Yea lc has always been a pricey suv tho 🥲
Do a Carwow and put it against the Jimmy in the same track.
Turn Assist won’t work with rear diff lock. Something would break. You can’t lock a wheel and force it to rotate the same speed as the other one on the same axle unless both are locked ie Park Brake.
Also when doing locker tests should always test unlocked, then just centre if an option, just rear, then just front (if vehicle has one), then all. Pointless going from none to all.
Been 4wding much?
Yep you're spot on!
I think people generally know how well lockers work. I think center vs all is fine. All off its the same as a 2wd up that hill.
Traction control vs all lockers would be a good test, even then everyone knows traction control is rubbish and lockers are amazing.
@@veneratedmortal4369 All off is nothing like 2WD. Also modern traction control is amazing. Just watch the Defender whip the LC300 and Nissan Patrol with just traction control. Clearly you have no idea how good modern traction control can be. Lockers have a use yes but they are not the be all and end all. Often you don’t want wheels rotating at the same speed at all due to the surface below - High friction rocks for example.
@@jerrymyahzcat if you get a wheel in the air without the centre locked your not going to move same as with 2wd.
I have seen all the traction controls in the world, they are getting better but guess what, you go as far as you can with traction on and then get stuck and put your lockers in.
Traction control works by sensing wheel slipping, the wheel has to slip a significant amount before the computer realises as wheels are always turning slightly different rates. Then it does the grabbing dance game to work out where the power needs to go and how much. This is not a smooth process and never can be, being jerry results in the car swaying, unbalancing, wheels slipping etc. With a locker you just drive smooth and slow and keep your traction. (Big hill climbs). Most of the time you probably don't need any lockers as the load is quite equal on each wheel. If you can show me the same car with 3 lockers getting further with only traction enabled I would like to see it.
They are just soooo expensive :( They are nice, and capable, but ahh man. I wish it was reachable for me!
Gxl I can buy a lot of stuff for 30 grand including diff locks
Hi, did I miss something, you never used low range.
Yep at the end when the front/rear diff locks were engaged and with turn assist.
please bring the Land Cruiser to Canada.😭
Cute! I could literally drive a holden commodore up that hill.
Lel.
Man thats awesome to bad toyota in the past years only sold the most expensive version and not the base model tgen they say people weren't buying it well its because it was the price of a luxury car not a off road cappable suv and now its not sold in the USA
The new bronco does have turn assist as well
Don’t get me wrong here, but for a 150.000+ Euro’s car you eould expect a better fit&finish betwen the stearing wheel and column …
Beside this… all looks great 🙂
150k Australian Dollar, which you will find is not even close to euros..... unless those US-mandated Ukraine sanctions has destroyed your economy to our level lol...
Hmmmm availability in 2023?
is youtube broken? it says this video was uploaded 10 mins ago but there are comments that were posted 3-4 days ago..... strange
It was unlisted until today :-)
ohh
I realy don't get the spec of the new Land Cruiser, you literally can't have the best of them all, i.e. rear diff locks on Sahara 7 seater spec. Like why? Patrol gets this across all the range and is $40-50k driveaway cheaper.
I spent 10K having front & rear e-lockers installed on the Sahara. Aftermarket lockers allow you to run locked diff in high range as well as low & also if you only want to lock one diff the traction control system still works on the other diff as with oem lockers it's turned off.
As I’ve said before, I can’t wait for the Ineos Grenadier to get here.
nice car but 145 k plus, Tiyota just gave sales to the Nissan Patrol, you see, a new patrol with updated dash will be released and smash toyota in the sales department you see....
nice review pitty about the new model 300 so sad ....buttons and stuff everywere looks very dated already not worth the money here ..
I'd rather have physical buttons than all the stuff on a screen.
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What the hell do you mean by tuck the car in
Gr sport should have been given a v8 engine
Shouldn’t be turning with your front diff locked.
Shame this isn't a North American market vehicle
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Waiting for the American’s to jump in and point out the Ford Bronco has turn assist - just imagine if Australia could get it’s hands on the full fat Bronco, perhaps this GR would have a smaller waiting list…
Shame on Toyota for not moving the game forward to a new sustainable future of electric or hybrid.
...half their fleet are hybrids at this point. Pretty sure they are working on a hybrid drivetrain for this as well.
@Rational Human I was saying that they have to step it up on these 4x4 vehicles. They can do it, its taking too long!!!