is it just me or is the text on Elemental Inspiration confusing? i thought i read "summon a(as in 1) 4/5 Votex with a random bonus effect for each spell school you have cast this game" as in it only ever summon 1 4/5 Vortex but with multiple random effects based on numbers of spell school casts, but then its just a worse One-Amalgam Band? i even feel like the text could read as it summons a number of vortexes based on spell school cast AND gives them all bonus effect based on number of spell school cast
I agree, it's ambiguous, I also first read it as only the effects increasing on the one Vortex. I'm not sure I get that last reading you mention, though.
Elemental Inspiration is one of the few badly worded cards in heartstone. I read it as it'd summon one Vortex with as many special effects as casted spell schools instead of one Elemental per school and was wondering how bad it was ^^ Maybe because english isnt my foreign language
You're right, it's a little unclear. You COULD read it that way! A better way to phrase it would be.. "Summon a 4/5 Vortex with a random bonus effect. Repeat this for each spell school you've played this game."
@@alwaysorange4425 Yes. And that times are called "Loosing the game". That's why Vexallus did not work. 16 damage are not enough for an OTK. For just 16 damage you don't need to do all this shenanigans. Play Astalor and 2 Arcane Bolts that are 20 damage. And with Astalor you do not even make the mistake of filling your deck with bad cards that generate more bad card.
What happens if you have already cast every spell-school and you cast Discovery of Magic? Does it fizzle, or do you get a consolation coin or something?
In the same vein I wonder if it lets you choose from multiple of the same school if you cast 5 or 6 already. But it probably will just show 2 or 1 option in that case. And it probably doesn’t do anything once you’ve cast 7 spellschools
The gaia chill o matic combo is pretty meme but hey you can discount it by two with one seafloor getaway, so if you cast two it becomes a six mana combo, or even 5 with oscillator (probably still better to slap it on the shark)
what do you mean? EDIT: you must mean double the spell damage boost, though it sounds weird to phrase it like that since spell damage isn't a sif exclusive mechanic
Elemental Inspiration seems like a really weird payoff for Overeducated Mage: a control/combo deck doesn't really want to pay 7 mana to summon a bunch of 4/5s, and the spell doesn't have a school itself, so it seems hard to justify running it
Yeah "elemental", couldn’t they have somehow branded this a nature spell with different artwork then maybe? I think it’s reasonable and would be a new spell school for mage
Now, this where we see the card is badly written, cause the way I thought it works is that you get a single 4/5 with a bunch of keywords slapped onto it, kind of like a spell school One-Analgam Band
The way I read elemental inspiration is that you summon one elemental, with a bonus effect for every spell school, because if you're at 0 spell schools the card would do nothing. Idk if we've seen gameplay of it but it's pretty unclear wording
@@raphaelunger3057 yeah but if they wanted to word it correctly they should've said "For each spell school you've cast this game, summon a 4/5 Vortex with a random bonus effect." Wording it in the opposite way makes more sense for it adding more bonus effects instead of summoning more minions so it is a blizzard oof.
The multi spell school package for mage looks to be pretty good. You could easily fit the 3 main spell schools in an unspecialised deck. These payoffs are actually pretty great. As basically everyone else has said, elemental inspiration is terribly worded.
A lot of people seem down on Multi-School Mage (coining the phrase here and now!) but I think it's going to catch people off guard by how powerful it turns out to be.
It is a more convoluted version of the Vexallus deck. Which didn't work. Even the questline did not work and there you had only to cast 3 spell schools and had the hero card as support and it was still not good. There you could even better use the spell damage for board clear because you could not loss it other than with Sif. And losing Sif is losing your win condition. So I only see her being played like Vexallus. And therefor I can't see how that deck would be better than Vexallus, which was not a good deck at all.
@@drakmendoa Quest mage didn't work? I seem to remember it running the meta and getting nerfed multiple times. But it's been a while, so maybe I'm thinking of the wrong thing.
@@driftwisp2797 It "didn't work" in the sense of "it was not a Tier 1 deck". Pretty much all of the Quest lines got nerfed at some point because they were all way too strong. And in this case it got only nerfed once and then back after rotation.
@@drakmendoa I'm looking through Tempo Storm's Meta snapshot. The second week that questlines were legal says "Quest Mage falls to Tier 3 this week after the recent balance patch. The nerf to Incanter’s Flow, which increased its mana cost to 3, makes the Mage’s early-game curve feel a bit awkward.". Given that Quest Mage is the only mage they listed in any tier, that's clearly Quest Mage drawing a nerf. The first snapshot after the mini set says "Quest Mage remains in Tier 3 this week, despite being one of the most common decks on ladder. One of its weaker matchups, Quest Aggro Warrior, spiked in popularity after receiving support from the mini-set. However, Quest Mage is still great against Tier 1 decks such as Hand Warlock and Aggro Druid." Most common deck on the ladder with good matchups against tier one decks isn't my description of a deck that didn't work. And when they finally nerfed the quest reward, Quest Mage was replaced by Mozaki Mage.. Which still ran Multicaster and three spell schools.
People think these cards are bad? Am I the only person who has dealt with Mages randomly generating and/or automatically having played card’s multiple times a turn? Mage and Priest always have some super unfun and uninteractive deck show up
I highly doubt Spell School Mage will be meta. We do not have nearly enough actual Spell School card generators for the amount of pay off cards that have been printed. We only got 1 single reliable card generator in this expansion for the Archetype that printed 4 pay off cards. That's a really bad ratio. Molten Rune does not count as it's just a random spell, Mage already has enough of that, it's nowhere near consistent, it's even pretty bad as far as random spell generators go. Just generating random spells is not anywhere near good enough when you'll have to be consistently casting different spell schools atleast once every other turn for the deck to function.
On top of the same problems the Vexallus deck had. Not enough ways to deal with aggro and not enough damage to kill control, relying on drawing a single legendary, have 6 combo pieces in hand on turn 8+ and not being forced to use them to survive and don't having a tutor for them and a way too slow gameplan. The spell school deck on top is even more draw dependent and convoluted because it needs to get it's 4-5 spell schools before turn 10. AND the need of putting bad cards into your deck in order to get enough spell schools. So yes I don't get the hype behind that card/deck either.
@@drakmendoacause it tickles Mage's fantasy (atleast imo) for casting diffrent spells for a payoff. Hovewer, getting those unnatural Mage's schools will be very not worth it in the end probably (that spell damage card will probs still be run tho lol)
Sif is crazy OP, they should at least make it so that the spell schools only count torward the total when Sif is in your hand. You will reach at least 3-4 spell schools just by playing normally, with no effort. Plus mages can churn out low cost damage spells; this will be a problem and I bet it is nerfed.
@@edrueter9 You could do that before with Vexallus which even only costs 5 mana. And it still did not work. And that combo was much easier to get of than getting consistent 5 spellschools on turn 10 AND 4 arcane bolts AND Sif.
it looks very underwhelming 6 mana + you have to cast so many spells just for that? consider that your deck is going to be like 1/3 just spells that add to her value, but then also consider you need 4+ good 1mana;ish spells to dump damage into face, so you're left with at a minimum 15 cards +sif for this combo. Inquisitive Creation is actually a significantly better payoff than just spell damage while on board.
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is it just me or is the text on Elemental Inspiration confusing? i thought i read "summon a(as in 1) 4/5 Votex with a random bonus effect for each spell school you have cast this game"
as in it only ever summon 1 4/5 Vortex but with multiple random effects based on numbers of spell school casts, but then its just a worse One-Amalgam Band? i even feel like the text could read as it summons a number of vortexes based on spell school cast AND gives them all bonus effect based on number of spell school cast
That’s exactly what I thought
I agree, it's ambiguous, I also first read it as only the effects increasing on the one Vortex. I'm not sure I get that last reading you mention, though.
ok yeah thought I was going crazy
That’s just what I thought. But that effect is way worse. So I hope Trump is right.
Summon a 4/5 (meaning one 4/5) with a random bonus effect (meaning one random bonus effect) per spell school cast this game
Elemental Inspiration is one of the few badly worded cards in heartstone. I read it as it'd summon one Vortex with as many special effects as casted spell schools instead of one Elemental per school and was wondering how bad it was ^^ Maybe because english isnt my foreign language
You made me go back and read it just to realise it was way less bad than what I read it as earlier lol
You're right, it's a little unclear. You COULD read it that way! A better way to phrase it would be.. "Summon a 4/5 Vortex with a random bonus effect. Repeat this for each spell school you've played this game."
Yeah, it can be read both ways.
Agreed, it should read more like "Summon a 4/5 Vortex for each spell school you cast this game. They each have a random bonus effect."
Nah, I'm a native English speaker and I read it that way the first time too. It is incredibly badly worded. Super unclear.
Note: the funwell is a holy spell, and may get you some weird schools, so watch out for that
Interesting consideration!
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Are right I haven’t thought of that
Elemental inspiration is worded like it summons just one 4/5 minion that will have one or more random abilities.
Man the Chill-o-Matic has an art from another world... holy shit he's cool.
This looks awesome, thank you. I appreciate the way you explain things!
:( poor snow chugger completely outclassed now
snow chugger walked so cill-o-matic can run
that fire spell also casts twice so it might also be a good finisher with +6 spell damage since spell damage would happen twice
And it does still less damage than just casting 3 Arcane Bolts for the same mana. So why run it?
@@drakmendoa cause its a fire spell that gets you a card and sometimes you don't have 3 arcane bolts?
@@drakmendoayou need 3 arcane bolts for that in hand lmao
@@drakmendoa Which is easier to get: 1 card or 3 cards?
@@alwaysorange4425 Yes. And that times are called "Loosing the game". That's why Vexallus did not work. 16 damage are not enough for an OTK. For just 16 damage you don't need to do all this shenanigans. Play Astalor and 2 Arcane Bolts that are 20 damage.
And with Astalor you do not even make the mistake of filling your deck with bad cards that generate more bad card.
Reverberations is a Shadow spell.
What happens if you have already cast every spell-school and you cast Discovery of Magic? Does it fizzle, or do you get a consolation coin or something?
You unlock the secret school
Was wondering same thing. My bet is on it just discovering from all spell schools at that point.
In Twist you can get discover pools with nothing in them and they fizzle, so I imagine that would be the case here
Maybe it's like ramp on 10 mana
In the same vein I wonder if it lets you choose from multiple of the same school if you cast 5 or 6 already. But it probably will just show 2 or 1 option in that case. And it probably doesn’t do anything once you’ve cast 7 spellschools
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The gaia chill o matic combo is pretty meme but hey you can discount it by two with one seafloor getaway, so if you cast two it becomes a six mana combo, or even 5 with oscillator (probably still better to slap it on the shark)
The 6 mana mech from boomsday that does 1 damage to everything at the end of your turn could be a consideration if you like freezing the board.
We saw how well this went for Shaman
The Forged version of Molten rune also gets double the effect from sif since it casts twice.
what do you mean?
EDIT: you must mean double the spell damage boost, though it sounds weird to phrase it like that since spell damage isn't a sif exclusive mechanic
I can already see the 14dmg fireball flying at my face
Elemental Inspiration seems like a really weird payoff for Overeducated Mage: a control/combo deck doesn't really want to pay 7 mana to summon a bunch of 4/5s, and the spell doesn't have a school itself, so it seems hard to justify running it
Yeah "elemental", couldn’t they have somehow branded this a nature spell with different artwork then maybe? I think it’s reasonable and would be a new spell school for mage
Now, this where we see the card is badly written, cause the way I thought it works is that you get a single 4/5 with a bunch of keywords slapped onto it, kind of like a spell school One-Analgam Band
They do if they have rush, lifesteal, taunt it's basically a inconsistent board clear and defensive play
This comment has aged badly 😂
@@hermiona1147 tbh elemental inspiration isn't that great, it is definitely cuttable from the deck.
Is the theme of this set better duskbreaker?
The way I read elemental inspiration is that you summon one elemental, with a bonus effect for every spell school, because if you're at 0 spell schools the card would do nothing. Idk if we've seen gameplay of it but it's pretty unclear wording
If it would work like that it would say: "Summon a 4/5 Vortex and give it a random bonus effect for each spell school you cast this game."
@@raphaelunger3057 yeah but if they wanted to word it correctly they should've said "For each spell school you've cast this game, summon a 4/5 Vortex with a random bonus effect." Wording it in the opposite way makes more sense for it adding more bonus effects instead of summoning more minions so it is a blizzard oof.
@@keyforlock4299 Then tell me what is the noun in the original Text?
Energy Shaper, an elemental, seems like a great inclusion for Spell School Mage.
When i saw chill o matic i think my heart broke a little bit thinking back to the Trolden Snowchugger funny moments 🤣
Elemental inspiration in a dream scenario is a pretty strong aggro buster, basically two supercharged zilliax.
5:03 damn Trump's voice sure changed
Would unholy and blood include with the spell school cards?
Gran finale
The multi spell school package for mage looks to be pretty good. You could easily fit the 3 main spell schools in an unspecialised deck. These payoffs are actually pretty great. As basically everyone else has said, elemental inspiration is terribly worded.
A lot of people seem down on Multi-School Mage (coining the phrase here and now!) but I think it's going to catch people off guard by how powerful it turns out to be.
it was already a thing with the quest
It is a more convoluted version of the Vexallus deck. Which didn't work. Even the questline did not work and there you had only to cast 3 spell schools and had the hero card as support and it was still not good.
There you could even better use the spell damage for board clear because you could not loss it other than with Sif. And losing Sif is losing your win condition. So I only see her being played like Vexallus.
And therefor I can't see how that deck would be better than Vexallus, which was not a good deck at all.
@@drakmendoa Quest mage didn't work? I seem to remember it running the meta and getting nerfed multiple times. But it's been a while, so maybe I'm thinking of the wrong thing.
@@driftwisp2797 It "didn't work" in the sense of "it was not a Tier 1 deck". Pretty much all of the Quest lines got nerfed at some point because they were all way too strong.
And in this case it got only nerfed once and then back after rotation.
@@drakmendoa I'm looking through Tempo Storm's Meta snapshot. The second week that questlines were legal says "Quest Mage falls to Tier 3 this week after the recent balance patch. The nerf to Incanter’s Flow, which increased its mana cost to 3, makes the Mage’s early-game curve feel a bit awkward.". Given that Quest Mage is the only mage they listed in any tier, that's clearly Quest Mage drawing a nerf.
The first snapshot after the mini set says "Quest Mage remains in Tier 3 this week, despite being one of the most common decks on ladder. One of its weaker matchups, Quest Aggro Warrior, spiked in popularity after receiving support from the mini-set. However, Quest Mage is still great against Tier 1 decks such as Hand Warlock and Aggro Druid." Most common deck on the ladder with good matchups against tier one decks isn't my description of a deck that didn't work.
And when they finally nerfed the quest reward, Quest Mage was replaced by Mozaki Mage.. Which still ran Multicaster and three spell schools.
so Elemental inspiration summons only 1 elemental or 1 elemental per spell school cast?
Elemental Inspiration really should be 1 mana cheaper or summon a vortex baseline. Probably both. It still might not see play.
Oh god, chill o matic is gonna push wild mech mage even more combined with the shark
I refuse to call this archetype anything other than PhD Mage
People think these cards are bad? Am I the only person who has dealt with Mages randomly generating and/or automatically having played card’s multiple times a turn? Mage and Priest always have some super unfun and uninteractive deck show up
when can we have more reno support :,( it’s been like 4 years
with all the elemental support they give,why not make elemental inspiration a minion instead
ONCE MORE, THE SIF WILL RULE THE GALAXY
Fire, arcane and frost are the easy ones.
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I highly doubt Spell School Mage will be meta. We do not have nearly enough actual Spell School card generators for the amount of pay off cards that have been printed. We only got 1 single reliable card generator in this expansion for the Archetype that printed 4 pay off cards. That's a really bad ratio.
Molten Rune does not count as it's just a random spell, Mage already has enough of that, it's nowhere near consistent, it's even pretty bad as far as random spell generators go. Just generating random spells is not anywhere near good enough when you'll have to be consistently casting different spell schools atleast once every other turn for the deck to function.
On top of the same problems the Vexallus deck had. Not enough ways to deal with aggro and not enough damage to kill control, relying on drawing a single legendary, have 6 combo pieces in hand on turn 8+ and not being forced to use them to survive and don't having a tutor for them and a way too slow gameplan.
The spell school deck on top is even more draw dependent and convoluted because it needs to get it's 4-5 spell schools before turn 10. AND the need of putting bad cards into your deck in order to get enough spell schools.
So yes I don't get the hype behind that card/deck either.
@@drakmendoacause it tickles Mage's fantasy (atleast imo) for casting diffrent spells for a payoff.
Hovewer, getting those unnatural Mage's schools will be very not worth it in the end probably (that spell damage card will probs still be run tho lol)
something something dog with sword
Nice control meta :(
All of these Mage Spell School cards look absolutely terrible. No one quote me on this though
Sif is crazy OP, they should at least make it so that the spell schools only count torward the total when Sif is in your hand. You will reach at least 3-4 spell schools just by playing normally, with no effort. Plus mages can churn out low cost damage spells; this will be a problem and I bet it is nerfed.
6 mana do nothing lol
worse than vexallus 99% of the time
if mages generate a bunch of cheap damage spells they're going to win anyways, they don't need this 6 mana to more damage card
@@ratmations8306 6 mana do nothing? I mean, if you use it to finish the game along with 4 small spells it isnt doing nothing.
@@edrueter9 You could do that before with Vexallus which even only costs 5 mana. And it still did not work. And that combo was much easier to get of than getting consistent 5 spellschools on turn 10 AND 4 arcane bolts AND Sif.
it looks very underwhelming 6 mana + you have to cast so many spells just for that? consider that your deck is going to be like 1/3 just spells that add to her value, but then also consider you need 4+ good 1mana;ish spells to dump damage into face, so you're left with at a minimum 15 cards +sif for this combo.
Inquisitive Creation is actually a significantly better payoff than just spell damage while on board.
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Why run geist when you can run reverberations?