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  • @petergrech9030
    @petergrech9030 Рік тому +12

    Thank you for producing these 🙏

  • @SuperGreatSphinx
    @SuperGreatSphinx Рік тому +5

    "A sharp spear needs no polish."
    - H. Rider Haggard

  • @MrSimonw58
    @MrSimonw58 Рік тому +10

    I'm English and I work with Zulus everyday

    • @Mossyz.
      @Mossyz. Рік тому

      Me also...They love watching UA-cam on my phone .x

    • @rodgerhargoon3402
      @rodgerhargoon3402 11 днів тому

      I am Indian and a Zulu from Africa..live amongst them .. love ulundi and the Zulu king ....only king we know in jwa Zulu natal ...no Westminster here ..

  • @pgandy1
    @pgandy1 Рік тому +5

    This is a good start. I thoroughly enjoyed the history leading up to the war. Before I’d only seen the individual battles, some well-presented. So far, this video has filled in many missing details. I trust there will be a follow up(s)? Thank you.

  • @Paolo-v9k
    @Paolo-v9k Рік тому +6

    Creo que fue realmente bueno. Algunas partes son sensibles. ¡Me alegra que me hayas llevado a ver este! Eres muy valiente. Gracias

  • @mohammedsaysrashid3587
    @mohammedsaysrashid3587 Рік тому +5

    It was an informative And thrilled watching historical coverage (video) about Zulu kingdom's relationships to Imperial British empire in Capetown. while white European settlers population intermediate that complicated relationship for themselves interesting...at the end British empire subdued both northern European Duch Republic and Zulu.
    kingdom's ...thank you Wonderful (Timeline )channel and (History Hit) network page for sharing this remarkable historical coverage video.

  • @mtheriotx
    @mtheriotx Рік тому +26

    Englands greatest export is independence days!!!

    • @lkgreenwell
      @lkgreenwell Рік тому

      The worlds peoples had to fight wars of independence to prevent us from dumping Quakers on them!

    • @malcolmfrsr
      @malcolmfrsr Рік тому +1

      Truly underated comment 😂

    • @lyndoncmp5751
      @lyndoncmp5751 10 місяців тому +2

      Yes, because they wouldn't even be countries otherwise.

  • @tempestvideos9834
    @tempestvideos9834 11 місяців тому +1

    They don't get to the battle until the last few seconds... Then it ends without even talking about.

  • @rector0455
    @rector0455 Рік тому +6

    Zulus attack, fight back to back!!!

    • @lightning7243
      @lightning7243 Рік тому +1

      Show them no mercy and Fire at will!!!

  • @michaelreed4744
    @michaelreed4744 8 місяців тому +1

    Hello. I remember that I watched a documentary that the Zulus took drugs before the battle. Do you agree with this theory?

    • @bootnazz1786
      @bootnazz1786 8 місяців тому

      They took anger, skill,and weapons

    • @Powerneck
      @Powerneck 8 місяців тому

      True
      They all had 3 bottles of Poppers ..

  • @markruby3916
    @markruby3916 11 місяців тому +2

    Wait his miracle fighting formation was surrounding people?? So forward thinking

  • @Tralala691
    @Tralala691 Рік тому +3

    Love England. It made everyone a producer.

  • @mjpope1012
    @mjpope1012 Рік тому +2

    The British should have fortified their camp at iSandlwana. They were told to by some fearful Boers who were travelling with the Centre column. Chelmsford brushed it aside.

    • @lyndoncmp5751
      @lyndoncmp5751 10 місяців тому +3

      Not enough wagons and the wagons were needed to do shuttle duty to supply the invasion. Nor could they entrench. The ground was too stony.
      Didn't need to fortify. A tighter more compact firing line would have been enough, but Durnford chose to go on the attack and pressured Pulleine to support him.
      Durnford was largely to blame.

    • @g.t.richardson6311
      @g.t.richardson6311 7 місяців тому

      rinse, repeat

    • @lyndoncmp5751
      @lyndoncmp5751 6 місяців тому +2

      @g.t.richardson6311
      Durnford was largely to blame. The senior commander at Isandlwana. The one who made the fatal tactical decisions and whom ignored both his own orders and those given to Pulleine.

    • @g.t.richardson6311
      @g.t.richardson6311 6 місяців тому

      @@lyndoncmp5751 thank you very much, everyone has seen you post this 879 times, or some variation thereof
      Thanks again

    • @martynpope8218
      @martynpope8218 5 місяців тому

      Everyone? Really? Seems better & more sensible than your tosh. Go back to sleep, you were better then.

  • @peterharren8909
    @peterharren8909 Рік тому +5

    Sometimes I think we only look at peoples like the Zulu as the victims of Colonization. Often enough they were well developed, capable, and strong cultures. Unfortunately modern weaponry of the time was more than likely to seal the Zulu's fate like many before. The individual beliefs of the Europeans on racial equality certainly varied, but the poor man always fights the rich man's wars. This was no doubt the case here along with the subsequent Colonial abuse.

    • @lyndoncmp5751
      @lyndoncmp5751 Рік тому +4

      The Zulus were colonisers themselves. They attained their lands by force and subjugation, even massacre.

    • @peterharren8909
      @peterharren8909 Рік тому +4

      @@lyndoncmp5751 Sure, like Europeans for centuries. But the level of industrialized exploitation was another thing. Humans do exploit each other, but that doesn't mitigate the outsized (historically unprecedented?) effects those of European decent have had. You can't change the past, your forefathers (should) own it. The question is are you willing to interrogate how you benefit? Unfortunately hiding from the past seems to be a worldwide trend.

    • @lyndoncmp5751
      @lyndoncmp5751 Рік тому +3

      @@peterharren8909
      What about how blacks in Africa have benefited? They gained advanced technology, more civilisation, democracy, governments, modern life saving medicines, abolishment of the slave trade, roads, railways, schools, universities......... and football.
      I don't think they'd prefer to be living in near stone age conditions without even the invention of the wheel or reading and writing.

    • @peterharren8909
      @peterharren8909 Рік тому +1

      @@lyndoncmp5751 Stable Governments? Right. Natural resources and political manipulation up to the present have broken much in Africa. Sure there has been much material gain, but for whom? I ask though how are they treated when they try to escape to Europe in part because of that political chaos. The same can be said about people migrating to US boarders. Yes, there's arguments to be made about controlling it. However convenient amnesia about the past is all the rage right now.

    • @ryanoleary7447
      @ryanoleary7447 Рік тому

      ​@lyndoncmp5751 exactly. And with the introduction of the Atlantic slave trade, they also got to travel. Don't know why people always say they had it so rough.

  • @dwaynepeterson-pj3lz
    @dwaynepeterson-pj3lz 4 місяці тому

    I was waiting for the words diamond,gold or some such similar to pop up. I do not believe that needs explaining.

  • @jontaedouglas7244
    @jontaedouglas7244 Рік тому +9

    Is they routed the British like this with dated weaponry, imagine if they would have discovered to make and use gun powder or such.

    • @mtheriotx
      @mtheriotx Рік тому

      And then they lost.

    • @tombassman
      @tombassman Рік тому

      They’d already been living next door to Europeans with guns for over 50 years, surely they could have learned about and obtained modern weapons in that time.

    • @lyndoncmp5751
      @lyndoncmp5751 Рік тому +1

      The Zulus had more guns than the British. Older guns, but still guns.

    • @jontaedouglas7244
      @jontaedouglas7244 Рік тому

      @@mtheriotx and Britain lost its empire, history is great isn’t it

    • @jontaedouglas7244
      @jontaedouglas7244 Рік тому

      @@lyndoncmp5751 which is my point, imagine if they were on the same time schedule as European armies, colonization would’ve been a complete different story probably

  • @nicholashindle2084
    @nicholashindle2084 3 місяці тому

    We learned to exploit from the Normans,Vikings and the Saxons.

  • @guitarhick
    @guitarhick Рік тому +4

    TOO MANY COMMERCIALS!!!! whom do i have to kill to learn something here DAMN OI!!!!!!

    • @alneal100
      @alneal100 Рік тому +1

      Pretty soon the videos will all be replaced by commercials. Their greed will lead to the collapse of UA-cam.

  • @tomtaylor6163
    @tomtaylor6163 Рік тому +13

    Now the Zulus use the Bulls Horn Strategy to Loot Department Stores

    • @shakazulu7808
      @shakazulu7808 Рік тому

      Yeah they have white zulus with them too

    • @dirkbogarde44
      @dirkbogarde44 Рік тому

      @@shakazulu7808 Not in S Africa they don't.

    • @peterharren8909
      @peterharren8909 Рік тому

      Umm... There's two kind of racism. One is being impervious to systemic inequality based on race. The second is Bigotry. Take a guess where you fall?

    • @MrSimonw58
      @MrSimonw58 Рік тому

      You own an Incredible Connection .... your f'd

    • @DixiePokerAce
      @DixiePokerAce 7 місяців тому

      ​@@shakazulu7808Where is this? I have never seen a white Zulu.

  • @KangaKucha
    @KangaKucha Рік тому +6

    Wish they won instead as overall they did.

  • @LordDirus007
    @LordDirus007 10 місяців тому +3

    Rome is the Greatest Empire ever known.

    • @capoislamort100
      @capoislamort100 10 місяців тому +1

      You’re crazy, they couldn’t even last a thousand years!

    • @bootnazz1786
      @bootnazz1786 8 місяців тому

      No genghis Khan.

    • @chequereturned
      @chequereturned 5 місяців тому

      What does that even actually mean? It wasn’t literally the biggest, and when it comes to science and engineering contributed far less than, eg, the British Industrial Revolution. Modern European empires and especially the British, and various Chinese empires, - and even the Mongols by size - have a better claim.

  • @Augh98-nt2zn
    @Augh98-nt2zn Рік тому +4

    Only a few minutes in and the pro zulu bias shows that this is not going to be even.

  • @clpen97
    @clpen97 Рік тому

    Sands of time

  • @williamharvey4732
    @williamharvey4732 Рік тому +15

    Only country worse than England ? France. When it comes to Africa.

  • @fbreyuibf3yry438
    @fbreyuibf3yry438 Рік тому +10

    To everyone whining about England being called the greatest empire:
    Cry more

    • @lyndoncmp5751
      @lyndoncmp5751 Рік тому +3

      Or speak in Latin not in ENGLISH ✌️

    • @MrSimonw58
      @MrSimonw58 Рік тому

      Ammo agricola astra spiro

    • @navigator8222
      @navigator8222 Рік тому

      An empire toppled by colonial farmers lol

    • @lyndoncmp5751
      @lyndoncmp5751 Рік тому +1

      @@navigator8222
      The Empire wasn't toppled by colonial farmers. It was two world wars.

    • @navigator8222
      @navigator8222 Рік тому

      that's incorrect. @@lyndoncmp5751

  • @kennethfordjr4214
    @kennethfordjr4214 Рік тому +2

    The U.S. is not an empire.

    • @mrwood4557
      @mrwood4557 Рік тому

      Yes it is

    • @lyndoncmp5751
      @lyndoncmp5751 6 місяців тому

      It is, of sorts. Took/assimilated indigenous lands from the Atlantic to the Pacific. Still there. Plus keeps hold of overseas territory (Hawaii, Samoa etc).

    • @chequereturned
      @chequereturned 5 місяців тому

      I mean, it had an empire. Much of what’s now the US was conquered territory by the original US, there are still territories with status quite comparable to colonies, but even by the usual standards they colonised the Philippines and briefly Haiti, several countries in Latin America, etc. Indirectly, there was also Liberia.

  • @curtiszyr
    @curtiszyr 2 місяці тому

    21:39 😂 this is insane they were concerned about being surrounded by the African savagery ? Then why come to Africa in the first place 😂 what happened to jolly ol England

  • @donaldzlotnik505
    @donaldzlotnik505 11 місяців тому

    The British defeat was based on a very stupid British Quartermaster! PERIOD!

    • @lyndoncmp5751
      @lyndoncmp5751 10 місяців тому +1

      No it wasn't. It was largely down to Durnford for turning defense into attack, pressuring Pulleine to support him and choosing to defend too extended a position.

  • @Lurgansahib
    @Lurgansahib Рік тому +18

    Majorblue777. That is just laughable. The British Empire covered 25% of the planet at one time. Rome was truly a great empire and we owe that empire a lot for all sorts of reasons. America I admire greatly as well, America has given much to the world and will do so in future I have no doubt, but empire absolutely no! They just are not made that way and neither are their political or management systems that capable.

    • @rector0455
      @rector0455 Рік тому +12

      800+ military bases around the world.
      The capacity to project overwhelming force virtually anywhere across the globe.
      'Allies' who are more accurately described as obedient vassals.
      It doesn't take a particularly deep understanding of American civics and history to understand that the Republic we started out as barely reflects the pseudo Empire we've become. Though I would agree that the Brits did Empire better.

    • @jdocean1
      @jdocean1 Рік тому +4

      @@rector0455I wouldn’t call our allies vassals. We share many common values.

    • @rector0455
      @rector0455 Рік тому +4

      @@jdocean1 Please tell me that your position is not based off of 'muh freedom and democracy' like you're naively shilling in favor of the Iraq war circa 2003 or something...
      In reality, very few (if any) of our 'allies' share American foundational values like limited government and inalienable rights of divine origin, freedom of speech and the right to bear arms for example. Neither do many of them share the Republican form of government, or the (often disregarded) American desire for isolationism and nationalism. If anything, our closest ideological cousins in Europe would be the Swiss, and they aren't even allies.
      There is a shared heritage with the inherited anglosphere nations, over which American cultural hegemony is particularly dominant, but it's a very superficial take to try equate these parliamentary systems which seem to venerate the government with American values set forth by the founders.

    • @iaind4852
      @iaind4852 Рік тому +1

      😂😂😂😂😂

    • @Lurgansahib
      @Lurgansahib Рік тому

      @@rector0455 I agree, America at this time has managed / mismanaged to get itself into a whole load of internal strife. A lot of Governmental systems / customs and procedures need radical overhaul and adjustment. I. E. The practice of Supreme Court Justices being appointmented by the President is just absurd. In my country we have separation of Government and Judiciary at all times, our Prime Minister does sign of the warrant for top judges but has no part in choosing same.

  • @chrisblack5054
    @chrisblack5054 6 місяців тому

    British would've had it worst if the zulu also had rifles and canons....they were fighting men with spears

    • @lyndoncmp5751
      @lyndoncmp5751 6 місяців тому

      1 in 5 Zulus were armed with a gun of some sort. Old and outdated guns but they could and did still kill. The Zulus had far more guns than the British did.
      At Rorkes Drift as an example, just over half of the British casualties were caused by Zulu gunfire. It's possible that was the ratio at Isandlwana as well. At least not much less.

    • @chequereturned
      @chequereturned 5 місяців тому

      Well, yeah. But the Zulus did have guns. At Rorke’s Drift they even had more. They just weren’t very good at using them yet. But being outnumbered 7:1 uphill is still a little difficult. So is being outnumbered 20:1 uphill… but they won that one.

  • @Fush1234
    @Fush1234 Рік тому +2

    No doubt they are pleased with assistance toward being civilized

    • @MrSimonw58
      @MrSimonw58 Рік тому

      They love BMWs

    • @bootnazz1786
      @bootnazz1786 8 місяців тому

      Yes Brits showed them,land stealing,killing,then apartheid...

  • @AfricanPrinse
    @AfricanPrinse Рік тому +3

    Why the zulus the only group of africans which history seem to be known in the western world though 😂🤔
    I mean there's a rich history there

    • @peterharren8909
      @peterharren8909 Рік тому

      My guess. Arguably the most concentrated area of Sub-Saharan culture is on the east coast, the cluster that includes the modern country Nigeria and its neighbors. There are many cultures that exist there to this day. I've been to the region and they still matter, the "West" doesn't really notice nor truly care. The area interacted with Europeans much earlier and things like the slave trade drew people and deeper alliances over many more years. There was an uncomfortably more recent British led obliteration of 100s of thousands of a single tribe in the region over British interests. Without real overstatement, probability to the level the Nazis dreamed of doing to the Jews.

    • @LadyCeCeFromThaDirty
      @LadyCeCeFromThaDirty Рік тому

      ⁠​⁠​⁠@@peterharren8909your guess is disingenuous. Zulus only get attention and UA-cam documentaries because their military history is well documented, and that’s because they were fighting and whooping the British so the west payed attention to them.
      We know the real reason why there’s not that much out there as far as materials and primary sources to research African history….along with all the people colonizers destroyed in those African holocausts you mentioned…they also destroyed books, letters, palaces, libraries, cultural sites, and entire communities. You say you’ve been to west Africa, right? So you know about the Benin wall for example? It was an ancient engineering feat created before the Great Wall of china and was destroyed by the British when they destroyed the city of Benin in Dahomey. Its history has seemingly been lost forever. I wonder what else we don’t even know about…
      Like the Nazis, colonizers led a war of annihilation against the places they decided they wanted to go to get away from cold ugly miserable Europe…keep believing the propaganda tho…

    • @vigilantghanaian8864
      @vigilantghanaian8864 Рік тому

      Look up the Asante kingdom. They fought the English for 100 years. O my reason you know about Zulu is because of the large English and Boers in SA

    • @nkosinathicaluza7536
      @nkosinathicaluza7536 Місяць тому

      Because the Zulu did something unbelievable, no other African army of that time was able to defeat the British

  • @Mossyz.
    @Mossyz. Рік тому +1

    Today England now is ruled by a foreigner ...lol

    • @chequereturned
      @chequereturned 5 місяців тому

      Nah, by a Brit, born and raised. Of Indian extraction, but from a democratically elected government. Because we are OK with that (even if Sunak specifically is useless). Not getting the lol.

  • @chrisdfx1
    @chrisdfx1 Рік тому +5

    The invaders got what they deserved and more. It's unfortunate the Zulus couldn't invade Britain and do the same thing to every person on that island.

    • @lyndoncmp5751
      @lyndoncmp5751 10 місяців тому

      The Zulus killed far more Zulus than the British ever did, and were not native to southern Africa. Bantu invaders from the north.

    • @luvontsimbi
      @luvontsimbi 7 місяців тому

      ​@@lyndoncmp5751Africa is one land mass not separated by any body of water, when u say Bantu are invaders where did South Africa begin before the colonial borders? Yts claim Bantus killed khoisans with no proof, look at the influence of the Khoisans on the Xhosa culture and language why would u speak a language of people u were killing in large numbers as the yts claim? When u say Zulus killed far more Zulus than the British u must provide the stats for those kind of claims.

    • @lyndoncmp5751
      @lyndoncmp5751 7 місяців тому

      @@luvontsimbi
      ""Africa is one land mass not separated by any body of water"
      By that analogy then it was ok for the Romans, Napoleon, Nazis etc to invade the rest of Europe. No body of water, right?
      "when u say Bantu are invaders where did South Africa begin before the colonial borders?"
      Southern Africa definitely didn't begin where the Bantu originated from.
      "when u say Zulus killed far more Zulus than the British u must provide the stats for those kind of claims.""
      According to the Zulus own history, Shaka put to death around 7,000 fellow Zulus after his mother died, and a further circa 10,000 Zulus were killed in the civil war after the Anglo-Zulu War of 1879. Both are greater numbers than the amount of Zulus killed by the British in the Anglo-Zulu War.

    • @luvontsimbi
      @luvontsimbi 7 місяців тому

      @@lyndoncmp5751 I don't care about the history of the Romans.or Nazis and their invasion those are European affairs so that analogy stands Africa did not have east, west , South and North our ancestors never had such.
      Khoisan and Bantu are Africans and they are more similar than they are different, Europeans don't fight over where one originated in Europe but we all know Europe is for Europeans why must it be a problem when we say Africa for Africans why must we be told of North, east , South and West? I am Xhosa and have very strong relations with Khoisan people they form part of my history some of my clan praises eve say "Thole lomthwakazi" meaning the young one of a Khoisan women so I don't get why u trying to separate Bantu and khoisans unless u are a Cape coloured then I get it those guys don't like Bantu people.

    • @luvontsimbi
      @luvontsimbi 7 місяців тому

      @@lyndoncmp5751 if u say Bantu invaded Khoisan tell us more details about those invasions and who where the rulers leading those invasions? We on the other hand will tell u of all the relationships that were formed how they were formed and we can show u parts of our culture that is from Khoisan and we can even show u how our languages are mixed with their language

  • @augustuswayne9676
    @augustuswayne9676 Рік тому +7

    England the greatest empire ? I think 🤔 not . They couldn't even beat the Germans on their own . The greatest empire had to help them out, twice .

    • @Dominknows
      @Dominknows Рік тому +1

      🤡

    • @paulcreed-r2n
      @paulcreed-r2n Рік тому +2

      England has never fought Germany on their own, but then again you get taught a different (suits us) world history & have never lost any of your own battles & ran home licking your wounds!!........Off you go now & sort Putin out on your own, we will sit this one out as it is of your making, don't step in twice at the last minute though.

    • @markhenry2174
      @markhenry2174 Рік тому +1

      Simplistic view. Ignores the fact that empires fall not overnight but gradually. By WW1 the empire was already under pressure from both Germany and US expansionism policies and was unsustainable. Also let’s not mention the psychological impact from ww1 on the French and British in particular and their reticence against another Great War - an impact not felt in the US.

    • @lyndoncmp5751
      @lyndoncmp5751 Рік тому +3

      America wouldn't even exist without England.
      Carry on conversing in English though, and living day to day by English laws and customs.

    • @Dominknows
      @Dominknows Рік тому

      @@lyndoncmp5751 look at the guys profile picture. He has American white trash written all over his face. Trying to elaborate fax to a person like this is quite useless.

  • @klasv7174
    @klasv7174 10 місяців тому +1

    what a joke to call the British Empire the greatest empire the world has ever known lol, compared to Rome its nothing.

    • @g.m.3285
      @g.m.3285 8 місяців тому +3

      Jealous much? Crying over history, grow up, learn to read and educate yourself!

    • @lyndoncmp5751
      @lyndoncmp5751 6 місяців тому

      Coz people all over the world converse in Latin, right?

    • @chequereturned
      @chequereturned 5 місяців тому

      …? It covered a quarter of the world in a whole different period of history, vs. around the Med and a fraction of the rest of Europe. And started the second Agricultural and Industrial Revolution as well as major developments in the sciences and established a truly global language. To say it’s ’nothing’ isn’t overreach to you…? Literal how is this laughable in a way that is actually reasoned with half a brain? Personally I think it’s pointless to compare other qualities of such different parts of history, but at least there is the literal meaning ‘greatest’ that means ‘biggest’, which it isn’t.

    • @NubiansNapata
      @NubiansNapata Місяць тому

      So true 😂😂 British went around conquering backwards tribes. I mean they conquer Papa new guinea. Mongols, Rome brought down the greatest civilizations of it's era

    • @sabataskull9661
      @sabataskull9661 10 днів тому

      ​​​​@@chequereturned Now get to your house and bring to 🇺🇸 your cup of tea and your shinebox ! Mr Belvedere ova here .