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That’s exactly how my first ride out of the dealership went. Found myself on a hill at a stop light …interesting to say the least and no one behind me was happy.
Wanna hear a funny story - I was 15 and half ( yeah ) ; I bought a 95 Honda Civic - I was on the craziest hill in my area and the 2 bolts holding up the shifter box came undone and the shifter knob literally fell to the floor. I was stuck on that hill for a little minute lol.
Bro that literally happened with me just now... And now I am here
literally same thing happend to me and that's why i'm here hahaha
This happened to me earlier this morning after I finished my shift 😢, so am here 😊
I'm worried about burning the clutch while doing this.
Please give tips 😀
Old video, timeless problem. Took my first motorcycle out today for my first on road ride, stalled once at a flat intersection but recovered quickly. I later found myself waiting to make a left with a pickup truck behind me on a hill. The man had the patience of a saint (didn’t tailgate or honk) whilst I proceeded to stall 3 times. After the third stall, I panicked and accidentally hit the horn instead of the start button. This was also my first time hearing the horn. Furthermore, it was just outside a church/school during some event, so I had quite the audience for my shenanigans. Sufficiently embarrassed, I revved more than I probably should have (900cc) and got it in gear. I took the left a little more violently than intended, but was okay from there. Wish I had just thrown the darn rear brake down. 😂
you wheelied your way out to give them a show :D
I wheelied during my MSF test to avoid stalling. Not once did Install. I still passed!
Only assholes get pissed when someone with a L plate is struggling.
What you just said is my main fear lol
I bet you learned something too huh.
This happened to me today at a stop sign on a upward hill. Kept launching and quickly stalling. Cars honking behind me. Finally got it after 5th stall lol. Wasnt embarrassed though because I'm learning. That's why I'm here.
Your front brakes have more stopping power because, when stopping more weight transfers to the front tire. When on a hill at a stop, you have more weight on the rear tire, so the rear break will hold your bike better.
they will both hold it or trade it in
Correct when you are rolling backward at real steep inclined. Front break is not that much effective because all the weight is in rear wheel.
If youre a new rider like me id suggest practicing this in a parking garage since you have a decently steep incline yet barely any of the traffic like you’d have on a public road.
Didn’t even cross my mind until today trying to take off from being parked on a hill. Wasn’t even a massive hill but my bike would NOT move no matter how much I revved.. I kept either stalling or just not moving. Had to chuck it into neutral and actually WALK it to the other wise of the road so I could take off downhill 😳
Honestly, this is the real hesitation I have with purchasing a motorcycle. I live at the bottom of several hills, and the only way to get anywhere is by going up them and stopping at a stop sign to a busy intersection, so this really helped me understand the easiest way to do it and made me a lot less anxious to purchase a bike
Buy a gearless two wheeler man
Just blow through it
The funniest thing to watch some people learn on a bike or a car my dad taught me the hard way at the busiest stop light in town that's on a hill and Sayed son it's either you stall and every one is mad at you or you take off and let's just say that clutch pop made the tires spin
Hahahaha you gotta do that sometimes.
i went up a steep hill. bike turned off several times. new rider on a
Harley touring. i managed to throttle an slowly release front break and clutch. took me several attempts. not easy.
wow. they did not teach that at 3 day motorcycle smartrider classes.
My first drop, and only so far luckily, was staling uphill, bike roled back, and boom :(
Same, and I kinda embarrassed myself in front of my neighbors haha
Did it explode?
@@hunterhealer8022 vehicles won't explode that easily, not like the movies in 90's
This is what im scared of
Me too. And I was in a test ride too…. I just felt so bad and I purchased it right away..
Moved to a new place and just learning to ride a bike. I live on the hills and this was the biggest problem I was facing, thank you so much. It immediately made sense as soon as you said it. By holding on to front bakes we are only making it more difficult to get moving in the friction zone, then we panic and over rev.
This information is a game changer.
The best way I have found is to hold the front brake while releasing the clutch to the friction zone. Once I see the front forks compress a little bit I know the weight of the bike is now supported by the engine. Slowly release the front brake and roll on baby.
I always stall the bike and get nervous
@@adventuresofsven2314 each bike is a little different, as you practice you will get the feel of what's what. whatever happens, always consider your safety first, as in don't let the ppl behind you rush you.
depending on the power of your engine at low rpm, it may need more revs.. don't be afraid to rev it before slowly working the clutch. the clutch has many plates/lots of surface area, it's designed to slip it, you're not going to burn it.
same is true for low speed maneuvers such as u-turns, etc: REV the engine even if it sounds awkward and let the clutch slip, don't fully engage it. it's much more difficult to control the power w/ the throttle alone when going slow (as in clutch fully released and only working the gas).. a high torque v-twin can take off up hill with the rpm just a little above idle but a smaller 300cc ninja or whatever DOES need higher rpm to start moving.
some call it pre-load, as in the engine spins fast enough to make power and you take how much power you need by working the clutch. but the power is always there, you don't need to rev the engine for more power you just release the clutch a little more.
hope this helps.
ps: adjust the clutch and throttle cables/play according to the specs of your bike. there needs to be some play. that also help you control the power...
@@duroxkilo That's an excellent comment and you really framed the clutch / throttle, concepts well. Thanks.
Got my first motorcycle today and I live on a steep hill...I'm like I don't have this figured out... thanks for the tips
HAHAH literally me. I feel you.
Thank you so much for your efforts and teachings Dan. I am a new rider and got a honda rebel 500 2019 and sometimes whilst practicing I get so frustrated and cry because I feel so dumb not getting it but I dont give up and your help is literally giving me hope.
Omg I just got the same bike, and I feel thay way too. I stalrd like 5 times today fingers crossed I get jt too
@@anekafernandez7164 you will ! I promise :) it’s been now 11 months and my bike and I are one. I always ride with “I don’t trust no one on the road” so which makes me more attentive about what I do and what others might do or are doing :) I love me bike !!
You rock, as a new rider your videos are so helpful. Thank you 🙏
I just passed my driving test and I find this video so helpful and so useful. Well explained, thank you so much.
Thank you so much for this informative video. Found myself uphill in Grand Bay, Alabama on my Rebel and couldn't figure out how to take off for the life of me. This video explained it to me perfectly without any confusion. Gotta love that friction zone!
Thanks dude! Just got my first ever bike a vulcan 650 2015 and i stalled twice on a small hill. I will keep on practicing! Thanks alot!
Hi Dan i am beginner with little to no experience. I am very busy studying on UA-cam everything I can. I want to say thank you for this video. When I leave my house, I do not have a choice, it is up or down a very steep hills. There are a few that are reasonable, so this will be my starting point of learning.
Thank you. I unfortunately experienced this myself on Monday and stalked a good 3-4 times and had a car beep me. Welp I’ll be going out back on that some hill and practicing and not neglect the rear break.
This is probably my scariest part of riding so far as the entrance to my work involves stopping on a hill to use a keypad to open a gate. Though hopefully I'll get good at it quickly as it is a necessary part of my commute and will get daily practice. 🤞
So how did it go Michael?
@@robideals685 It was more mental than anything and not as bad as I would have thought. It got me used to keeping my right foot on the rear brake quick, pop it in neutral, and easy peasy. The worst part has been leaving work - the sensor never registers the bike to open the gate and the manual open button is on the right side on a decline. 😅 I usually park up the hill, run down to press the button, then run back up to get going before the gate tries to close again.
@@Oktobyr Glad to hear it's do-able thanks!
@@Oktobyr thx for this, im planning to get a bike for college but my college is on one hella of a hill you wouldnt imagine
Right on! I just learned how to use my rear brake on a hill and most importantly I trusted myself to make it across the intersection using friction zone and throttle "marriage".
Best thing I did when first learning was forcing myself to keep left leg down and right leg up and on foot brake at every stop. I have alot of hill stops where I live in Catskills region of NY so this was an essential skill to learn immediately. It was barely a hurdle to get over cuz I was used to it very early amd already understood clutch and manual from my cars but there is always a little healthy fear on hill stops even when well practiced and confident especially on very steep ones.
Training in the UK we have four stages, CBT, Theory Test, Mod 1 and Mod 2 before you can have a full A licence to ride anything more than 125cc (*There is also a restricted licence for those under 25).
- CBT - Compulsory Basic Training, is a 1 day course on how to use a bike and do a road ride on a 125cc. You then get a CBT licence and able to take on your A licence.
- Theory Test - This is a multiple choice question set about the highway code and common riding/driving knowledge, signs etc... It also has a second test which is Hazard perception whereby you watch videos and have to identify when hazards build up and occur. You need a Theory test to go for a Mod 1 and Mod 2
- Mod 1 (most people will do a DAS course before this which helps you learn whats required to pass a MOD 1 and 2). Mod 1 is a test to show how you can control the bike in different ways. 1. Moving it by hand into a space, 2. Slalom through 5 cones and then 2x figure of 8 without putting your foot down. 3. Slow moving, without foot down and then stop in a coned area 4. U-Turn without putting your foot down within a enclosed space and not going out the area. 5. Control breaking at speed and stop in a cone area. 6. Speed emergency breaking, must hit 32mph when at the speed detector and come to a stop ASAP without skidding. 7. Speed run, must hit 32 mph and swerve around the cones and then stop at the coned area (or where instructed). (item 2 will be seen as two test items).
- Mod 2, this is a 45 min ride out with a qualified DVLA examiner, you will have to do a 10 min ride whereby its all by signs instructed by the examiner, the rest will be all under his command i.e "turn left, turn right".. You need to complete this without any Majors (so something as simple as keeping an indicator on too long) and you can't get a set amount of minors or consecutive minors.
Once completed, you will then be A Licenced to ride any sized machine depending on age. Might sound brutal but it keeps you safe and well worth it. I passed all mine first time but the most common to fail is the Mod 1 because people either put their foot down during controlled moves or do not hit the required speed limits.
Ride safe all :)
Today , on a very steep winding incline a rental 3 ton truck stopped on a tight left hand bend I was a few metres behind , but had to stop on the steepest part just before the turn , had to put right foot down as was on a camber also , so only the front brake was available , man did I squeeze that front brake , my private parts were right next to the tank , and my right leg was the only thing supporting bike .
That is the hard part for me , front brake only coming to a stop on a steep hill, I might add I am a shorter 29 inch inseam rider , the bike a Honda Transalp 850mm seat height , long front suspension…so the front dives , however the front tyre held on the steep incline , I managed on second attempt to move forward , after truck had got going again .
But it was close to a roll back and tip over , I am ordering a lower seat for the Honda , I wear Alpine star tech 7 enduro boots , which I believed helped me stabilise the bike, the bikes today are too heavy for high seat heights and long suspension.
Taller riders may scoff , but believe me ,despite many years riding experience , it’s an issue on these type of bikes.
Wow. I wish I saw this earlier. Took my new bike out on the neighborhood streets for the first time today (brand new rider) and thought I was going crazy when my clutch didn't seem to act has it had earlier (on flat ground) . I'm so new to this, I thought I had somehow messed up the bike for it to have been behaving differently but alas, I was on a bit of a hill. This will take me some time. Your videos are great. Thank you
The hill I live on is much steeper than that one, so I get a LOT of practice on this one skill. But it is great for everyone to practice this.
I kinda figured this out my self i was like wait i have rear brake also..lol its like using handbrake on a hill in a car so..
You use Handbrake on a hill? Weird.
@@kylorojen8066 lol
@@kylorojen8066 I use it too helps a ton for uphills
@@kylorojen8066 lol I was thinking the same I just use clutch and gas for uphill going and only use the foot brake for holding myself still
Starting on the grade. Mastered it years ago when learning to drive manual. Alas, here we are again. Gotta put those reps in.
I'm freaking out about buying my first bike and your videos help. Thank you. I can drive manual car, but bikes are a different animal
I had to make a right turn out of a neighborhood on an incline onto a road with a lot of traffic, i stalled like three times but finally got it when no cars were coming so i didnt feel rushed
I was having trouble with this but thanks for explaining to use the friction zone first! Gotta try that out now
i cant belive im actually watching this, cus i can do this with a car zero issue witout using handbreak, but before im getting my first bike very soon, im getting worried about this shit
Not a rider yet and only ever drove a 50cc Yamaha DT (probably was 100cc but plugged, I think they all were due to laws in my country) MANY years ago. This helped a lot and it makes perfect sense. Will likely do wonders when I get to the lessons in about a month (about a month of mandatory theory lessons is required here in Greece where i am currently living - 20 hours in total). First time ever driving a car with my aunt, one of the first things she did was too have me parallel park in a 20 degree downhill, on my left side, ina pocket not much bigger than the car. She just went "no biggie", explained it, and I managed it without issue. Also very good at explaining like you did right here. Before that drive, I had never driven before and I spent a minute or two just memorizing the clutch, gear box, and all other controls, then never had any issue. I truly believe it comes from all those years of gaming. Always wanting to be in control before "playing". Got 6 different truck (collective name for forklifts and other lifts?) licences too, and two drone licences. All of which I learned in only a day (full theory, 96-100% scores, and driving tests without a hitch). Have not done the car license yet, but will do it at the same time as the motorcycle one. Driven as a "privatist" in Sweden (only country I know where you can drive legally with someone you know for practice being in the car, anywhere you want to, not needing a school) for about 3 years, just never went and took the test due to the illogical reasong that "if I have to wait in line for a few months, then f it".. but it is time to accept it. So this will be the only time I have to wait until I can test out on the theory and get to driving.. really frustrating, but I think it will also be more rewarding when I finally get there. Now I have time to watch videos of experienced riders and also learn a lot more of the mistakes etc. in-depth.
I was having real trouble with this at my course. The instructor simply told me to practice but I was having tremendous difficulty. I'll aply this next class and see how it goes. Thanks!
When I'm alone with empty roads I'm good. On the intersections I make huge mistakes
Excuse me for snickering, being born and raised in San Francisco it became second nature, don’t get me wrong I’ve scorched a clutch or two in my cars a time or two, emergency brake starts helped to prevent that.
Around here the worst starts on a hill are at stop signs onto rural highways. So on top focusing on the hill you have the turn and fast moving traffic that you cannot see comin all that well because of obstruction. .
Had my first day doing BRC with MSF. For some reason they have all new riders doing courses on a hill.
Im old, and just starts to ride. Thanks for the info. Really need to practice this.
I found my self in the uphill light position the second day of riding, I’m lucky didn’t stall considering i had no uphill training
i got a grom and right out the dealer is a huge hill at this light and i didn’t know what to do so i walked it up the hill🙃
Been riding for three days and I found myself at an uphill stop for the first time today with a car behind me. Only stalled twice, but got it going. It was anything but smooth, though. I should have watched this first.
just got my first motorcycle and had a little situation and looked this up straight away
There’s a major intersection on the way to my work that’s at a slight incline and I consistently get stuck at it.
Really need to practice my hill starts more. Probably one a week I stall at it and hold up traffic. Only a matter of time before someone rear ends me.
Desperately needed this video. First time riding, no experience outside of the 2 dat MSF course. Found myself trying to get a minor hill and just kept stalling 😢 I had basically walk it up and get going
I live in a small town in a mountain region
Basically 60% of the town's streets are hilly including my own neighbourhood
In Brazil bike riding is very common and basically every 14yo can do it, but I'm almost 18 and never really rode a bike and the fact that the town is hilly really doesn't help
I'm ashamed ngl
Thank you DDTFM! My Most important take away: "If you don't train for the situation, you're going to fall back to the lowest common denominator of training you've ever done"
Be prepared, expect the unexpected.
Great video. Even better advice 👌
There's an intersection near my house with a light on a steep hill. I hate it when the cars pull right up on my tail. There's no room to roll backwards at all. I have to have this technique down pat or there will be road rage issues.
Like you would in a manual transmission car, keep the hand brake on, then release the hand brake when you have movement going forward, except in a motorcycle your hand brake will be your right foot holding the rear brake :D I personally are too lazy, I just hold the front brake with my hand and gas it up the same time :D
Same with cars, you get it with time. Muscle memory is the goal.
Thank you for the video, haven’t tried it yet but the instructions are very clear. I have been trying and swearing, working with the throttle and front break at the same time until now.
Can’t wait til tomorrow to get out there and try this out.
Thanks for this, everything you said is exactly how it always plays out in my situation. Will put in more practice and apply these tips.
I am a new rider and picked up the Low Rider S today. Made it home ok but holy hell it'll teach you throttle control quickly. Thought I rode really well considering it started pissing down with rain too, the only thing I didn't factor was getting it up four ramps into my apartments 4th floor parking garage. It either stalls, shoots like a rocket or rolls back so I gave up for tonight, there is a tiny sweet spot I am going to have to figure out tomorrow in how to get it up there and a slow and steady speed but I could see myself dropping it here. Like others said really didn't think about this before buying it.
No one probably cares but it is really a mindset, I read my post, went downstairs and just got it done up 4 floors without any incident. All about the friction zone and the rear break.
@@anthonyr587 Great job Anthony. I recently got a V Star 650 and haven't been on the road with it yet. It was a used bike and needed new tires which I put on Monday. I haven't been on a street bike for many years (over 40) and I was worried about taking off on a hill so I started practicing a little bit on an incline on my driveway. I stalled like 3 or 4 times my first attempt before I finally took off. Made a loop around the yard and came back to try it again. Still stalled it 2 times before I was able to get moving. Gave up on it for today but I realize I still need plenty of practice before actually getting on the road and have to stop on a hill.
This exact scenario happened to me this morning on my way to work. Thanks for the vid!
Thanks god l've find this video! 🙏Making me more prepared when l' ll find out myself at the foot of the hill, now l will exactly now what to do with my bike not to sliding down!😯
This situation was extremely scare for me,😬😥
hope, it will be useful for you too😁👍
Rode my bike for the 2nd time last night on the way home from work, there was a police car driving behind me patiently watched me stall twice at a roundabout, then ended up on a hill at some traffic lights and as soon as they went green stalled twice again with a bunch of cars behind me and got pulled over by the police, luckily they were pretty nice and said they just wanted to make sure I was okay but wanted to escort me home to make sure I got back safely, I was so embarrassed.
Thankkkk youu u explained to me what my actual teacher couldnt!
Rear brake. 10/10
In my country u wont get the license unless you pass several rides with riding instructor etc. Today we stopped on T intersection that had a slight hill behind me and I had to turn right 😂 the road was narrow, the guy sitting on the bike with me had like 100kg and Im surprised we survived 😂😂
Good thing I don't live in Pittsburgh Pennsylvania, it has to be scary stalling a motorcycle there...wether you're a beginner or not.
I live in Pittsburgh and it's not fun.
wow reading this and living in pittsburgh starting on my bike 😂😂….cant go anywhere without a hill
Dan I'm doing my test next week and hill start is a tricky one like figure 8 and u turns and yes if you have a motorcycle it's easy to practice hard when drive car for 30 years lol 😅
That happened to me today I was going up hill and it’s a steep hill and the red light came on and I am 5 cars behind and I keep stalling out thanks for the info
one thing I really struggle with is parking on a hill, both up and downhill. I've very nearly dropped my bike a number of times when trying to do this, especially when there's a camber. What's the best way?
The best way is on a slant, the kick stand toward the bottom this is up hill, down hill would be the back of the Motorcycle facing down hill. And the Kick stand facing the down hill slant again., the kick stand can hold hundreds of pounds. So it can hold the Motorcycle and then hundreds pounds more.
This is one of my fears. We got some extremely gnarly hills with stop signs on them. I learned a manual car on it but a moto, not as of yet.
So it's like driving a standard vehicle, never knew that feeling with the clutch had a name.. the "friction zone"! That's awesome, it takes some getting used to with a car/truck. Im assuming it's somewhat like that?
Thanks for the video 👍…I’m in the UK and recently passed my CBT but didn’t do any hill starts and I do struggle at the moment with it so will now go find a quiet road (hill) nd practice this 👍👍👍
Happened to me today. Honking cars made it all the worst. Eventually hopped off and started pushing it uphill.
THANK YOU!!! I have noticed when I start on level smooth and I and running, any sort of incline and I am Sammy Struggle, for new riders I have to add (because I am hitting it) HEEL/TOE Kick yes I keep finding it and not in the positive way. that messes me up on any surface
The easiest would be going downhill and going uphill while on twisties(like it is basically normal riding, because of the twist, it so effortless to going uphill), the hardest would be going downhill on very sharp twisties and going uphill after you bought your manual motorcycle
I was just practicing yesterday and had to stop at a hill. I stalled 3 times just to move forward.
great vid i pass my test 5 weeks a go what i can tell you is they 100% made me do a hill start on my test but in the uk you have to do a cbt theory mod1 mod2 so by that point you should be ok for hill starts i do still stuggle a little with very step hills and i do what you are doing also pratise helps :)
Just failed my road test because I stalled multiple times on a hill. Didn't practice hill starts ever before, only on cars
I stalled 3 times on a hill today that I was worrying about yesterday to go that way , I reved the shit out of my bike in panic 😬
I did that shit today going up my driveway. Hate it. 🥴
Maybe a video on how to park on hills? Especially really steep and narrow ones
Sheesh that was me tonight and it was raining😂 I totally panicked. Also forgot you can't put in first with the kickstand down at the gas station 😂😂 Learning pains
Crazy the rebel 300 stalls on barely an incline. No hill just a flat surface with BARELY an incline. But I manage to throttle enough to push it out, probably the same thing here
Ye i was stop on a hill leaving a restaurant today trying to merge onto a busy road stalled twice luckily guy stopped so i could get going
I've been practicing this all day and still cant get it :,( and I habe an enduro :,O
I can already do this. Maybe I'm doin it wrong though so I clicked on this. I just have the bike in gear clutch in and on the rear brake then let out and off smooth.
Lets see if I'm right.
This helps so much I stalled so much today
Trying to find instruction on going up a hill and doing a sharp turn like the entrance to a parking garage. Can't find it.
Im having trouble doing that now. How do you manage?
I took a video in my car, watched it over and over , then practiced with bike on a hill in my yard that was even steeper. It was on grass so it was slipping out on me too. When I did the garage with the cycle it didn't seem as hard as what I thought it would be. Just have to be solid with the throttle and keep momentum. Always look ahead of the turn, where you are going, and not straight ahead.
I did a double stall today on a steep hill with a car behind me, so much pain and embarrassment.
Yep even small grade a challenge for new riders. Panic is always worse ya
Nice! Where do you find these roads with no traffic??
late but he lives and drives near Tucson, AZ
tuscon*
Iam here in Pittsburgh, hilly city Capitol of the u.s.if u can drive a bike here,u can drive bike easily anywhere!
You should try San Francisco! 😂
omg if only i had seen this before my cbt, i live in england and during my cbt i got stuck at a light on a hill and stalled like 4 times missed the green light and people were honking at me it was to say the least mortifiying
yea, when your short with a bike at 37.5 in height and a kick start hills are tough
Less than one minute of useful explanation. Sometime, a great savant said that if you cant explain something in a simple way, it means you don't know or understand completely that thing...
Well, long story short, I dropped a bike today for the first time since my first week of riding... I came to a complete stop then tried to turn right and also go up a steep mountain. It's a small village so the only thing that got hurt is my pride, as there's really no hiding from people I see daily. Does the CC and weight of the bike make any difference in the technique here?
rev-bomb clutch-drop skeater up the mountain top
I struggle with this. I would like to see this excercise done on a bagger with a passenger.
Dam you gravity, dam you! I'll have to find a hill like yours that no one ever travels on and practice.
Probably the most difficult part of riding a motorcycle. If you figure this out, then you are good to go.
Going back the rear brake becomes a front one ;)
For those of us used to driving a car with a manual gearbox, this is self-evident; a dying art, sadly!
yeah handbrake on first and rev harder then start to release the handbrake
Yep stick gears are the best
@@BaltazarSMZ oh shit I just go from letting off the brake straight into the gas and release the clutch to the biting point I never used the handbrake at all on a hill unless parking
I'm 16 in the UK, I love bikes - from pits to cruisers, I beleive a cruiser is a proper bike unlike a 50cc scooter as they're lawnmowers. What age is best to start saving for a cruiser, I'm 17 in May.
19 is when you can get your A2 licence so you can like a honda rebel then.
If my vehicle gets off on a hill my vehicle dont have self starter instead it has kicker. So when I try to start the vehicle I cant use rear brake because i wan to kick. If i try to use the front brake i wont be able to race for the vehicle to get started
Could you talk about how to manage a downhill stop which is uneven , please? It’s declined towards right side