@@tolgagedikli5534I tried beheeyem with gengar and honestly this pokemon is really bad. Specially on this meta where most high tier decks run only 5 basic pokemons at most. It will deal like 30 damage per attack. It's just really bad.
@@tolgagedikli5534yess I use the same ones!! Sigilyph is so underrated, it’s wound so tight it just needs a slight meta shift to value card draw more imo. Great HP, cheap retreat cost, feels so good to open with
I've been loving your content, keep it up! Since your video a week ago I've been playing your Exeggutor-Greninja deck, and I fully agree with you. It is so fun, easily my favorite deck at the moment. Super underrated! Thanks again for the deck list
I agree with mostly everything except the arcanine placement, I think it’s a solid A and here’s why: The only bad matchup it has is just gyrados, which yes is a meta relevant threat but you know who else folds to gyrados? Mewtwo and it’s in S tier. Every other matchup is solid Mewtwo: a solid 50 50, you have your own mew to counter their Mewtwo, and arcanine with gio can one shot their mew, not to mention with some lucky flips you can run the Mewtwo player off the board before their set up but overall is always a game that can go in either players favor. Pika: you destroy, the moment you have an arcanine set up the game is over Celebi: you also destroy with the type advantage. Only time you really loose is if they get really lucky with Evos and you brick, or they get a lot of high rolls The various fighting decks: id say 50-50 to 60:40 in your favor. As long as you get your arcanine Evo and a potion or two they can’t really do much as arcanine can survive that marshadow hit, but hitmonlee can be a pain if you have a slow start. And against any other deck you do very solid against as you have great bulk and good damage. really the only bad matchup is that gyrados which Mewtwo also struggles with. I honestly see arcanine as an alternative to Mewtwo. They have almost the same matchups with Mewtwo jsut having a more even matchup into pika but easier into fighting and the arcanine easier pika but harder fighting but even then Mewtwo has started to have a worse matchup against grass with egg being more popular now so even arcanine has an edge there. DLDR: arcanine A tier, and the goat
I haven't tried or seen it, but could something based around pidgeot and exeggutor work? Swing early and tank with exeggutor while putting energy onto pidgeot
Tried it the other day after seeing the deck performed well in a tournament and had a surprisingly good time, plus a couple creators have made videos on it, Sekkarou for example!
It definitely could. However the problem with pidgeot still stands: with this variant you deal solid damage early, yes, but in a tournament setting, once they know you're playing Pidgeot, they just manage their bench accordingly and often you don't have the damage to push through. I've been experimenting with a Red Card in my Pidgeot decks for that reason, but the results have been kind of mixed and matchup dependent. Just to clarify, the purpose of Red Card is to give you a bit of disruption and an effective punish if the opponent keeps his hands big in order to play around your Pidgeot. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't
Agree with everything except Arcanine AND Melmetal: Melm is INSANELY consistent rn with the right deck. A guy even ranked top 4 in couple 250+ tournaments with it.
How can Koga, Golem and Blaine be in the same tier of Gengar, Alakazam, Venosaur/Celebi/Serperior (is that even a thing?)? The first 3 decks are capable of handling many fights against top tier decks, the latter ones struggles against decks of the same tier
Have you tried cutting Seperior lines for Lilligant's in the Exeggutor/Celebi deck? I have a bit, and it felt more consistent to me, you don't get the crazy 10 coins flips, but those usually went poorly for me anyway
Agree with most your list. I'd put Pika the top of A with the rise of fighting and Exeggutor Ex decks. And I'd put the Aero/Prime Aero/FF in A tier bc it's MU spread and it's shown enough results.
i got all meta decks, yet im only playing ninetales rapidash scalazzle deck, im steaming over pretty much every deck atm, its really being slept on hard
@@boshman11 its 2x vulpix + ninetales genetic 2x ponyta and rapidash from mythical (the coinflips) 1x salandit from genetic 1x salandit from mythical 2x salazzle from mythical 1x x-speed 2x pokeballs +2 prof research 1x sabrina 2x blaine the salandit difference for the pure reason if 1 salazzle already poisoned it can do 50 dmg just on its own, the x speed only one cos everything already cost just 1 to retreat and the goal is to start with salazzle evo if possible if not ponyta, and u try to always put ninetales in last cos she burns mana, so if u can build up 2 mana on a rapidash and 1 on a salazzle before that with 1 on a ninetales or vulpix ur golden, rapidash is a 130 dmg coinflip with blaine and ninetales a solid 120, but since ur so fast and aggro and the poison on EX pokemons like mewtwo really drains them so hard that mostly a normal attack from a ninetales already seals the deal
It is interesting how certain types are performing better than others Top two tiers: Electric, Water, Psychic, Fire, Grass B rank: Fighting C rank: Darkness Unranked: Dragon, Steel Then again Electric and Psychic are being carried by one deck each
I'd put scolipede/weezing as B tier - I've achieved consistency with many matchups, but it took learning how to play optimally with leafs and kogas (not easy). Also one copy of Mew ex makes gyarados match ups decent.
Since I've played this game, I've been getting tails more than heads, wether it's misty, or any other card. I feel like the 50/50 is a lie and it leans more towards tails most of the times. That plays a huge part in why Celebi decks are dominating. Celebi is very easy to setup, but most of the time it loses because the so called 50/50.
Pika struggles a lot rn. I mean yeah, its great into Gyarados but Exeggutor walls it, Fighting decks are favored vs pika, M2 is also slightly in M2s favor, Arcanine is mostly too fast for pika ans so on. Currently there are more threats for a pika player than benefits. Not saying its a bad deck, but I wouldnt call it S tier anymore. As long as the meta is like this way. yesterdays PPL tournament has 0 pika in tops. not saying that this will be the new standard but it shows that pika is more match up reliant than some other decks rn.
The only way Alakazam doesn't oneshot Mewtwo is if he has 2 energy on it, from 3 onwards is a decisive oneshot for Alakazam. The Mewtwo matchup in particular is not as bad as you make it sound, in fact it's pretty winnable via Mew ex or Alakazam when you set it up. The problem for Alakazam decks will always be inconsistency and setup time, not damage, so hard disagree with that take
@carokann15 that's besides the point. He claimed that Alakazam is unable to oneshot a Mewtwo ex unless the player puts a ton of energy on it, when in fact, Alakazam oneshots Mewtwo from 3 energy onwards and deals excess damage when Mewtwo has a fully charged Psyblast (or whatever the 4 energy move is called). The reason he said the Mewtwo matchup is bad, is that Alakazam can't quite get through their mons, when in fact the reason the matchup is not great is just about the opposite: Mewtwo is faster, more consistent and more flexible. Alakazam kills if you set up Alakazam, while Mewtwo can deal chip damage early, oneshot all your Mons, pivit between different attackers, and can find its win conditions fast and early. The one problem Alakazam doesn't have, is quite literally the one he claimed in the video. Note: he did say Alakazam is too slow, too inconsistent and too reliant on a stage 2 pokemon, but compared to the other matchups, Mewtwo is not as fast and still relies on finding a few key pieces (i.e. Gardevoir); meaning: it's potentially slower than Pikachu ex and Gyarados (sometimes), and you do run Mewtwo and the slabs which is incredible for consistency and against Mewtwo specifically. The claim that Alakazam doesn't really have the damage is wrong on its face though
@@renzgavilan1450 nah bro. Haven't used or lost to Articuno since expansion came out. You are just bad and homophobic. And people say God doesn't punish twice..
@ that’s easily worked around if you just use eevee as your active, besides who wants to throw pikachu out there right away and leave him Vulnerable to a free hit.
I just watch this videos to know what decks not to give thanks on random battles. No thanks to try hards that use only "s/a tier" in a casual game like this
Both Alakazam and Gengar would benefit greatly from a stage 1 pokemon with a 2-cost attack. It just helps them in a lot of situations
I hope they make a Gengar with a Curse ability, allowing you to move 1 damage from your pokemon to theirs
For Alakazam I am using Beheeyem because it’s a mini Pidgeot Ex and it can do alot for little energy and for thé consistiny I propose Sigyliph
@@tolgagedikli5534I tried beheeyem with gengar and honestly this pokemon is really bad.
Specially on this meta where most high tier decks run only 5 basic pokemons at most. It will deal like 30 damage per attack. It's just really bad.
@@tolgagedikli5534yess I use the same ones!! Sigilyph is so underrated, it’s wound so tight it just needs a slight meta shift to value card draw more imo. Great HP, cheap retreat cost, feels so good to open with
I've been loving your content, keep it up! Since your video a week ago I've been playing your Exeggutor-Greninja deck, and I fully agree with you. It is so fun, easily my favorite deck at the moment. Super underrated! Thanks again for the deck list
I hope this video makes more people play Mewtwo so I can have fun with Scolipede again 😂
I agree with mostly everything except the arcanine placement, I think it’s a solid A and here’s why:
The only bad matchup it has is just gyrados, which yes is a meta relevant threat but you know who else folds to gyrados? Mewtwo and it’s in S tier. Every other matchup is solid
Mewtwo: a solid 50 50, you have your own mew to counter their Mewtwo, and arcanine with gio can one shot their mew, not to mention with some lucky flips you can run the Mewtwo player off the board before their set up but overall is always a game that can go in either players favor.
Pika: you destroy, the moment you have an arcanine set up the game is over
Celebi: you also destroy with the type advantage. Only time you really loose is if they get really lucky with Evos and you brick, or they get a lot of high rolls
The various fighting decks: id say 50-50 to 60:40 in your favor. As long as you get your arcanine Evo and a potion or two they can’t really do much as arcanine can survive that marshadow hit, but hitmonlee can be a pain if you have a slow start.
And against any other deck you do very solid against as you have great bulk and good damage. really the only bad matchup is that gyrados which Mewtwo also struggles with. I honestly see arcanine as an alternative to Mewtwo. They have almost the same matchups with Mewtwo jsut having a more even matchup into pika but easier into fighting and the arcanine easier pika but harder fighting but even then Mewtwo has started to have a worse matchup against grass with egg being more popular now so even arcanine has an edge there.
DLDR: arcanine A tier, and the goat
what a great channel keep it up
I haven't tried or seen it, but could something based around pidgeot and exeggutor work? Swing early and tank with exeggutor while putting energy onto pidgeot
Tried it the other day after seeing the deck performed well in a tournament and had a surprisingly good time, plus a couple creators have made videos on it, Sekkarou for example!
It definitely could. However the problem with pidgeot still stands: with this variant you deal solid damage early, yes, but in a tournament setting, once they know you're playing Pidgeot, they just manage their bench accordingly and often you don't have the damage to push through. I've been experimenting with a Red Card in my Pidgeot decks for that reason, but the results have been kind of mixed and matchup dependent. Just to clarify, the purpose of Red Card is to give you a bit of disruption and an effective punish if the opponent keeps his hands big in order to play around your Pidgeot. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't
I need that Pikachu Mythical Island deck list yum yum yum
Agree with everything except Arcanine AND Melmetal: Melm is INSANELY consistent rn with the right deck. A guy even ranked top 4 in couple 250+ tournaments with it.
How can Koga, Golem and Blaine be in the same tier of Gengar, Alakazam, Venosaur/Celebi/Serperior (is that even a thing?)? The first 3 decks are capable of handling many fights against top tier decks, the latter ones struggles against decks of the same tier
Greninja Drud in C tier is harch! It has won multiples tournaments already. Besides that I'm ok with your tierlist, great job
I have such a love-hate relationship with the gyarados deck!
Have you tried cutting Seperior lines for Lilligant's in the Exeggutor/Celebi deck? I have a bit, and it felt more consistent to me, you don't get the crazy 10 coins flips, but those usually went poorly for me anyway
Agree with most your list. I'd put Pika the top of A with the rise of fighting and Exeggutor Ex decks. And I'd put the Aero/Prime Aero/FF in A tier bc it's MU spread and it's shown enough results.
i got all meta decks, yet im only playing ninetales rapidash scalazzle deck, im steaming over pretty much every deck atm, its really being slept on hard
Salazzle in the Blaine deck? Unique! Which one?
@@boshman11 its 2x vulpix + ninetales genetic
2x ponyta and rapidash from mythical (the coinflips)
1x salandit from genetic
1x salandit from mythical
2x salazzle from mythical
1x x-speed
2x pokeballs +2 prof research
1x sabrina
2x blaine
the salandit difference for the pure reason if 1 salazzle already poisoned it can do 50 dmg just on its own, the x speed only one cos everything already cost just 1 to retreat and the goal is to start with salazzle evo if possible if not ponyta, and u try to always put ninetales in last cos she burns mana, so if u can build up 2 mana on a rapidash and 1 on a salazzle before that with 1 on a ninetales or vulpix ur golden, rapidash is a 130 dmg coinflip with blaine and ninetales a solid 120, but since ur so fast and aggro and the poison on EX pokemons like mewtwo really drains them so hard that mostly a normal attack from a ninetales already seals the deal
It is interesting how certain types are performing better than others
Top two tiers: Electric, Water, Psychic, Fire, Grass
B rank: Fighting
C rank: Darkness
Unranked: Dragon, Steel
Then again Electric and Psychic are being carried by one deck each
I'd put scolipede/weezing as B tier - I've achieved consistency with many matchups, but it took learning how to play optimally with leafs and kogas (not easy). Also one copy of Mew ex makes gyarados match ups decent.
is there any data base for these deck lists?
I guess this is what we'll be seeing in the next win streak emblem event.
do you have an example deck for gren/eggy? seems neat
the GOAT uploads again
The problem about Primedactyl toolbox decks is that the deck is pretty hard to play and people generally pretty bad at playing it lol.
Since I've played this game, I've been getting tails more than heads, wether it's misty, or any other card. I feel like the 50/50 is a lie and it leans more towards tails most of the times. That plays a huge part in why Celebi decks are dominating. Celebi is very easy to setup, but most of the time it loses because the so called 50/50.
Exeggutor Greninja is C tier, maybe even lower
Zebra sniper is a good partner for pidgeot :) Won a tournament
Scolipide wheezing beats celebi too, it just folds to gyarados
i cant wait for trading so i can finally pick up exeggutor ex, and mew ex
Pika struggles a lot rn. I mean yeah, its great into Gyarados but Exeggutor walls it, Fighting decks are favored vs pika, M2 is also slightly in M2s favor, Arcanine is mostly too fast for pika ans so on. Currently there are more threats for a pika player than benefits. Not saying its a bad deck, but I wouldnt call it S tier anymore. As long as the meta is like this way.
yesterdays PPL tournament has 0 pika in tops. not saying that this will be the new standard but it shows that pika is more match up reliant than some other decks rn.
@27:30 for the interesting stuff
Arbok Weezing is definitely better than Scolipede
The only way Alakazam doesn't oneshot Mewtwo is if he has 2 energy on it, from 3 onwards is a decisive oneshot for Alakazam. The Mewtwo matchup in particular is not as bad as you make it sound, in fact it's pretty winnable via Mew ex or Alakazam when you set it up. The problem for Alakazam decks will always be inconsistency and setup time, not damage, so hard disagree with that take
A good player will never leave a mewtwo with more than two energies in the active against alakazam
@carokann15 that's besides the point. He claimed that Alakazam is unable to oneshot a Mewtwo ex unless the player puts a ton of energy on it, when in fact, Alakazam oneshots Mewtwo from 3 energy onwards and deals excess damage when Mewtwo has a fully charged Psyblast (or whatever the 4 energy move is called). The reason he said the Mewtwo matchup is bad, is that Alakazam can't quite get through their mons, when in fact the reason the matchup is not great is just about the opposite: Mewtwo is faster, more consistent and more flexible. Alakazam kills if you set up Alakazam, while Mewtwo can deal chip damage early, oneshot all your Mons, pivit between different attackers, and can find its win conditions fast and early. The one problem Alakazam doesn't have, is quite literally the one he claimed in the video.
Note: he did say Alakazam is too slow, too inconsistent and too reliant on a stage 2 pokemon, but compared to the other matchups, Mewtwo is not as fast and still relies on finding a few key pieces (i.e. Gardevoir); meaning: it's potentially slower than Pikachu ex and Gyarados (sometimes), and you do run Mewtwo and the slabs which is incredible for consistency and against Mewtwo specifically. The claim that Alakazam doesn't really have the damage is wrong on its face though
I run a Khan, flareon, greninja deck. Honestly not a fan of dred
We need Wally or Rare Candy!
Charizard >
Kinda weird how I actually never see charizard being used
Sadly mew hard counters him😢
I could beat celebi and metwo ex deck with arbok and weezing deck but i struggle whenever i play againts articuno ex gay deck
Using gay as an insult in 2025 xD. No wonder you lose to an outdated card such as Articuno. Mental disadvantage
@brunococcia1126 you prolly use those decks
@@renzgavilan1450 nah bro. Haven't used or lost to Articuno since expansion came out. You are just bad and homophobic. And people say God doesn't punish twice..
@@brunococcia1126 in fairness no deck can beat water if they get lucky tho
Look how you murdered my boy VenusuarEX
Pikachu can be good with jolteon and zapdos both ex and original
Jolteon is bad with pikachu since you don’t won’t to risk capping pikachus damage at 60 if you’re stuck with an eevee on the bench
@ that’s easily worked around if you just use eevee as your active, besides who wants to throw pikachu out there right away and leave him Vulnerable to a free hit.
I just watch this videos to know what decks not to give thanks on random battles. No thanks to try hards that use only "s/a tier" in a casual game like this
basically 90% of japanese/chinese players