All Super Saiyan Forms Explained in Dragon Ball GT
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2025
- Explaining ALL Super Saiyan Forms in Dragon Ball GT INCLUDING Super Saiyan 4 Explained and Golden Oozaru Explained on this NEW edition of the Transformation Guide OMNIBUS. We delve deep into Dragon Ball GT Super Saiyan forms.
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SS4 will always be the best design of the super saiyan forms in Dragon Ball. The GT legacy will always live on
Facts. SSJ4 is GOATED!
Trust me SS4 will always be cool and interesting but it will never not bother me that a) the clothes change and Goku goes back to kid size when he powers down. B) I mean GT in general.
@@grapes9h5 in my head it'd have made more sense to make SSJ4's hair and fur golden (after all, it comes from the golden Oozaru), but I understand their choice (looks more intimidating this way)
ssj4 will always be better than any form we’ve gotten in Super. The transformations in super are lazy
@@GhostHead997 i don’t know, MUI is a pretty good look.
Super Saiyan 4 is my favorite Super Saiyan form, and I hope they bring it back in Dragon Ball Daima.
They most likely won't be using any transformations in Diama.
UI absolutely clears
I didn’t ask for your opinion UI CLEARS, that’s it that’s all
Nah your right bro I’m just joking
@@daswahnjames5504 you can't say dbs forms are recolors in "my opinion", that's not a opinion that's a statement, lmao
SSJ4 is the Shazam of this universe. Makes him an adult as a bonus.
SS4 Gogeta having ALL red hair (his hair and eyebrows and not just his fur) could just be an effect of the fusion.
SSJ4 still my fav and always be my fav Saiyan form!
I thought that for Golden Ohzaru one needs both the tail to go Ohzaru and the ability to go Super Saiyan, with the Full Earth acting no different from the Full Moon.
And that Vegeta, once hit by the blutz machine, didn't go Golden because he could keep his mind and choose not to transform - and when he did, he instead turned SSJ4 because he already had the other requirements.
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27:00 LMAO Omega Shenron looks like hes in speedos 🤣
Super Saiyan 4 really is the best Super Saiyan transformation in GT, and arguably the best Saiyan form in the dragonball franchise.
Nope , god an ui are way better
@@nicholasleon787 would you care to explain why (and don't include stuff about the forms being stronger in power nonsense whether they are or not)
@@thebestcakegoku7346God and UI both have better narrative buildup and UI is a culmination of Goku’s entire character. He’s a martial artist more than anything, UI is the most fitting thematic transformation for Goku.
SS4 is just kinda there out of nowhere, unexplained, no buildup, and had a sloppy and bad execution with how it was first obtained.
@@thebestcakegoku7346 it’s the simplicity of the forms for me .
UI
I love to believe that the reason why goku gets his adult body back in the SSJ4 form is because the form transforms you into your primal (prime) body to maximize its strength.
I love GT personally. It's not perfect. But I think it's still dope. It has a laid back feel to it that I always liked. And with the series being shorter it was easy to buy the whole DVD collection for next to nothing. Many iconic moments and characters came from this series.
Gt Vegeta should have had ssj 3 access at that point in shadow dragon arc. Supe Baby vegeta seems to have been in a ssj 3 like form, with the no eyebrows and different hair, and since that was still vegetas body he should have the requirements for ssj 3.
I wonder if Vegeta could have attained SSJ4 on his own without the Blutz Wave generator? Let’s say he generates the blutz wave/full moon “ball” like he did in Saiyan Saga Goku fight. He’s a lot more powerful in GT than he was back then. Presumably he could generate blutz waves of sufficient potency with the ball technique. Would have been a fun callback to early DBZ.
he didnt have a tail so thats why he had to be artificially pumped with bruits waves unlike goku who presumably grew back his tail since he turned back into a kid
@@baked7423 the machine created a high amount of blitz waves, so high that a tail was not required.
What the comment here is saying is that due to vegeta being so much more powerful than he was in the saiyan arc of dbz, maybe he could have created a blutz wave ball that was powerful enough himself and not need the machine.
@@pt5728 yea he couldnt do that without a tail likely so he had to be directly pumped with those waves
@@baked7423I was just about to say that. Vegeta got his tail cut in the saiyan saga by yajobe sorry if I didn't say his name right ^^
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you had me at OOZARU.....,💯💯💯🔥💪🤘💥😎
This video was fire as always. Super Saiyan 4 is def my fav transformation and these explanation videos breakdown so much questions from child hood. Geekdom 🐐
Mr. Geekdom I love your content and go in-depth explaining ends in the outs of DB/DBZ lore.
Honestly I can say I'm truly a DBZ fan. Like yourself.
Dragon Ball z abrige messed up lot of so call fans heads up because that series take things out of context really pissed me off turn one the most iconic show/ DBZ into a sick joke.
People who watch dbza first without watching the original series reading the manga those the ones think DBZ just brut fights lack of storytelling.
Thank you geekdom for being our beloved content creator really knows DBZ.
DB/DBZ my favorite anime can't sit back watch TFS make a mockery out one the most iconic anime in history.
Hope one day make a mockery out of Naruto and one piece see how many people will laugh at their favorite anime
I admire the fact that you’re able to talk 30minutes straight about something you really care about. People couldn’t talk for 10 minutes about something they loved if their life depended on it.
After watching the recent MistareFusion videos I prefer the explanation that the SSJ forms are just connected by names rather then all being direct evolutions of each other.
Just because 2 things look alike doesn't mean they have to have names that are associated with each other.
After watching this I feel watching GT again but ion be pissed off 😂
SS4 Is the Best transformation of this series! Simply iconic! One of the Best concepts and designs!
I love GT, and ss4 is by far one of the dopest transformations✊💯
The best transformation ever. The control needed for it is beyond crazy. To me this should have been the peak of S power. The x10 kame is not x10 stronger, it’s an exponential increase. So it’s mentioned different times about the true multiplier of the kamehameha being between 2.26 and 2.5 but somewhere in there it’s actually 2.26 to the power of ten. Totally different numbers
SSJ4 is still one of the best transformations
Before I even really got into DB, SSJ3 and SSJ4 were my favorite transformations, especially the latter. Always thought it was weird 1 and 2 barely look different but 3 and 4 are super over the top but that's what I liked about them lol
This comment is not really about this vid but the streams on twitch... I can't always catch them live and so dont really get to comment on them but they are great and keep up the good work... and a little break never hurt anyone if you're feeling the burnout.
Even if you dislike SSJ4 form, it is far more thematic than anything in Super. With lazy crap like Blue and Ultra Instinct looking like fan fiction...hell, ill take the Vegeta wave thing over magic back tingles.
I don't think you've seen fan made Dragon Ball transformations lol. Most of them are just recolors of SSJ4 with more hair lol.
@@Mandalore_ultimate yeah. And toyotaro contributed to that. How it all came full circle. ⭕
I really wish we got more of ss3 and ssgod.
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Did anyone ever explain why the writers choose to not allow the universe 6S to have tails. The series sometimes feel devoted making fans forget about the tails.
They're more evolved than Universe 6 Cabba literally said this during the Universe 6 and 7 Tournament
@@Mandalore_ultimateIs that why the writers chose not to do it or is that just the excuse they put into the series to justify the reason for them choosing not to? Those are two different questions lol
@@Mandalore_ultimate That's the in universe explanation I'm talking about the writers decision to leave the tails out.
@@lesterwilliamsjr649I mean it's also similar to why us humans don't have tails even though we have a tail bone
@@derekosgood3230Dude is literally seething about Universe 6 Saiyans not having tails 😂
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I never thought about 2 great apes fighting each other but now that I've heard the idea I'm now heavily invested
Ayyeee new video Lets Gooo! I hope we get tails back in the series
I don’t know if this was filler or anybody remembers this but when the earthlings were preparing for the Saiyans arrival all the way back in early dbz, Mr popo sends them into an alternate reality planet vegeta so they can spar against the Saiyans. If you look closely when they’re walking around there’s a statue of a saiyan that looks exactly like ss4. Blew my mind on my rewatch of dbz
Brother that was an amazing video thank you for sharing this and thank you for always being the Example of fan that we have all wanted to be
GOLD LSSJ6 BROLY VS ANGEL Z 🎉🎉🎉😊😊😊
GOLD SSJ6 VEGITO VS ANGEL Z 🎉🎉🎉😊😊😊
I like how you pronounce all of the terms in the correct pronunciations as well as the other pronunciations from either the fandom or english dub. It helps educate us all.
Too bad the part of the fandom who only watches the dub complain about the correct pronunciations
@@Mandalore_ultimateit's funny how everyone widely accepts SSJ as the correct abbreviation, despite nobody pronouncing it super Saiyan gin.
@@yourmother4385Japanese don't even say SSJ, they say SS
@@specialnewb9821SUUUUPA SAIYAJIIIIIIIN
@traincore1955 yeah but they abbreviate it as ss1 etc
Golden Oozaro comes from having ssj and turning Oozaro
Great content as always brother
Other year without dbz and still you make my dragon ball year!!!!! Thank you for that and keep up the good work brother!!!!!!
GOLD SSJ6 GOKU VS ANGEL Z🎉🎉🎉😊😊😊
This is the best explanation of ssj4 I have ever heard
Always found it astoinding how people some people state Vegeta cheated to obtain Super Saiyan 4. Always asumed he used the machine to flood his body with bruitz waves so he could get his tail back and transform from that point he cleary transformed into a golden Ozaru and SS4 unassisted. Yes Vegeta can generate brutz waves using a technique that forms a ball of light. However this is assuming he still has a tail. That was always my interpretation of it.
Good video.
I do not think Vegeta cheated. Vegeta used technology in the form of a machine to return his tail. Goku used technology in the form of pliers to return his tail.
Vegeta's tail did only return when he transformed into a Golden Ozaru then SSJ4, but he didn't have one when he got back to his best form, and when it comes to Goku his tail had slowly started to grow back naturally, but the big plier just helped the tail's growth processor faster.
@DragonSkyNija I hear ya. Even so both Goku and Vegeta used technology in different forms to return their tails. Regardless in Vegeta's case he had no tail in base and his tail returnwas temporary. The point is both the pliers and the machine expedited the return of Goku's and Vegeta's tails respectively. So either they both "cheated" to quickly return their tails or they both simply used what was available to them at the time to quickly return their tails.
19:27 not to mention it was their first time ever using the form in combination with fusion
I always thought that the reason for ssj4 turning you into an adult was because it was like an evolution.
Ssj4 evolves you to the perfect saiyan body. Fully mature.
I didnt consider it as a transformation but more like the perfect evolution of a saiyan.
Like, even if you were really old, turning into ssj4 would grant you a perfect body.
Is it just me or does dragon ball super broly's transformation resemble SSJ4? The fact that he utilizes the great ape form but doesn't transform.
It's not the same thing though
@@Mandalore_ultimate didnt say it was. It just reminds me of it
21:01 could argue the theory is still true for the golden oozaru form, as to my knowledge, even in media fan or otherwise where gohan gets ssj4, he never goes oozaru, golden or otherwise
I like to think that 3:53 this is the TRUE saiyan form and the only reason we don’t see it is because the saiyan now don’t have their tails
The red hair and red aura thing is probably pointing to how a kaioken power up would work if you could permanently maintain it.
we arguably got that with kumber as his golden great ape form at least, is on par with ssj4 fusions from what we see, for what it is worth, regardless of what you personally think of heroes
I think SSj4 is like a demi-wukong like transformation that's inatly also magical then when fuse you see the full on Godly with full Saiyan power amplified. When going full power and/or limit breaker state, it forms a similar technique to kioken but natural without any of the drawbacks because it's innate magic of a God
Ssj4 is base on wukong. Hell dragon ball got it inspiration from wukong.
Saiyan hair and behavior are based on entities known in Buddhism as Asuras or wrathful deities, especially the hair shape after going super saiyan and the insane wrath they show when transforming.
This can also be seen in the game Asura's wrath.
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@@GuyVick so what or who are they based on?
limit breaker is arguably a more developed version full power ssj4, in the sense it is unlocked the same way but became an actual form afterward and was able to be accessed at will and was sort of a ssj4 with god ki
The red hair gogeta is ss5. i have many reasons for this. was hyped a few episodes back they just didn't want to say it when it happened and make it cliche with all the numbers adding up at that point. red hair plus sparkling aura is ss5, we already had a ss4 full power this is more than that. also first time gogeta happened it was base form plus base form equals ss1 gogeta automatically when created in the fusion reborn movie and second time if we follow that same logic ss4 + ss4 when fusing = next form up like last time, ss5
I've always felt that ss4 gogeta looks like goku in the face so that's why they went with the design
The way I read that Vegito vs SSJ 4 quote is that it's comparing the transformations themselves and not the characters. So one way to read it is that the book is stating that Vegito (the character) is potentially stronger than any of the SSJ 4 characters (i.e. Goku and Vegeta) which doesn't really make a whole lot of sense.
Instead, another way to read it is that the book is stating that the multiplier for portara fusion and hence for Vegito is potentially greater than the multiplier that SSJ 4 grants a saiyan.
So think of it like this, imagine 2 sets of Goku and Vegeta with both sets having the exact same power level as each other (i.e. both Goku's are the same strength and both Vegeta's are the same strength). Then imagine that 1 pair fuses forming Vegito and the other pair instead transform into SSJ 4. The book is basically saying that this Vegito is potentially stronger than those 2 SSJ 4's due to again potentially having a higher multipler. I don't believe that the book is specifically talikng about Vegito from the Buu arc and saying that it's stronger than SSJ 4 from GT
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And if you think of it like this, then its actually crazy because that means that fusion is essentially equivalent too or greater than a SSJ 4 multiplier. Then imagine that fusion turning SSJ 4 on top of that (just like Gogeta does in GT) and you're basically stacking two SSJ 4 multipliers on top of each other for the base saiyans (i.e. Goku and Vegeta) which should in turn just show you how powerful Gogeta SSJ 4 is
Gogeta also enters the Limit Breaker form which is above his red haired form.
ss4 vageta was probably given the red hair cause the artist that drew him might have been told to make his fur red and before the conversation was over dude told the artist to remenber to make the hair red, meaning the fur but said hair so the artist made his hair red.. that how i picture it happening
Really loved the adventures side of GT
So, my theory as to why SS4 Gogeta had red hair is that it was supposed to be a remembrance of waaaaaaaay back in the day when Toei Animation mistakenly made Vegeta a redhead. I have no idea if that’s true or if there’s supposed to be a much deeper reason, but like you said it’s up to you to decide.
Seems like full powered ss4 is when they tap into the ikari form. Heightening their sense becoming more animalistic in nature.
Really wish they would reboot SSJ4 in the series, Daima might actually be a good time to do so since we are getting kid goku again
Ya know, it just dawned on me that we NEVER get a fight between two great apes in the ENTIRE series. Not even in heroes I think. Isn't that weird? Giant ape battles seems like something right up this anime's alley.
I love Golden Great Ape it's definitly one of my favorite form's with Super Saiyan 4.
Youre right about were sick of kid goku. But honestly it the opposite. It felt like 4 years without adult goku and when we finally see him. It brought tears.
21:27 I'm sure Videl would love a hairy Gohan SS4
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Super Saiyan will always be my preferred final form for Goku, even over MUI from Super. GT, in general, is heavily underrated and was way too overhated back in the day.
Not sure if this is just fan headcanon but babby Vegta was SS3 and Vegta learnd the transfermation but knows it has major drawbacks and therefore never used it.
I always thought ss4 full power was like mastering it but the first time was like a temporary thing like adding kaioken until goku got used to ss4
I never cared much for 4 but I do like Golden Oozaru. When I think of original super saiyan thats what comes to mind. A berserk giant space monkey.
I believe that when Dragon Ball GT celebrates its 40th anniversary, we might get a new storyline set in the GT timeline, focusing on Goku Jr. and Vegeta Jr., but especially on Goku Jr. as he tries to understand his grandfather Goku's legacy. The story could involve a new threat from the Frieza Empire, which still exists and wants to use the Earth Dragon Balls to revive Frieza. This could work, as we have seen in the Resurrection F movie and the Super anime that Frieza was revived in his robot form. This could lead to a revenge plot against Goku's living family, now that Goku is gone. However, the story could also reveal that Majuub is still alive, although old, but still strong due to his fusion with Buu. He could serve as the successor to Goku and teach Goku Jr. and Vegeta Jr. how to fight. Additionally, the story could include the next generation of GT fighters traveling into space to fight powerful aliens and bring back fan-favorite characters. We could even add some filler arcs from the Z anime to expand the GT lore. Lastly, it would be amusing to see Maron's great-grandchildren, especially a twin Maron who acts like her. We can take inspiration from any Dragon Ball media to create a new and exciting storyline.
When will you do more Q&A’s ?
SSJ4 Goku and SSJ4 Gogeta are my favourite transformation and fusion, hands down!
SSJ4 Gogeta having orange hair probably was aesthetic to help convey that he is stronger and make him look a bit more unique.
However it could be possible that because the series was wrapping up that they were planning for this to be a mastered form and never bothered to explain it to try and fit in the main story.
It really could be anyone's guess.
Basically because it looks cool.
Only disagreement I have here is that we don't know for sure that Vegeta didn't reach ssj3
The implication might be he didn't, but there is no real confirmation of it so it feels like... pick whichever answer you prefer 😂 Super Baby 2, being a mirror to ssj3 does imply his body can achieve it no problem but I really wish Vegeta went ssj3 at least once, maybe at the bridge while challenging Goku
Blutz wave strength
I like how Goku goes Golden inmeditely after turning into great ape because hes acting on pure raw instinct while Vegeta stays brown because hes just putting on an act. Say what you will about Toei but they understand the series better than Toyotaro.
If you think about it, it is possible to stack SSJ1 on top of the god form to reach blue, so why shouldn't the same be possible for the great ape form? 10x (from ape) multiplied by 50x (from SSJ1) would easily put it above SSJ3's mltiplier of 400. This also fits the lore as the form is shown to be stronger than SSJ3 Goku or Baby Vegeta 2 (often refered to as mutated SSJ3). Question is, would it still be possible to stack SSJ3 on top of great ape for a 4000x multiplier?
One thing that I've heard many people say is that SSJ4 extracts all Saiyan power, so actually the multiplier is, at a bare minimun, SSJ3 X 10 (that's your x4000). But I don't know... Even to me is weird that SSJ4 is only SS (x50) and Ozaru (x10) making it a x500 multiplier, just a 25% stronger than a SSJ3. But we saw what happened in Namek with Goku SS VS. Freezer at full power. According to the guides, Freezer was 120.000.000 and SS Goku 150.000.000. Also a 25% difference, and Goku stomped Freezer. So... it's up to us?
Anyone ever noticed that GT just kinda forgot super saiyan 2 existed
Yeah that never made sense
Goku used it a couple of time, villains are way too powerful in gt to use that transformation
I would say Gogeta look is just the opposite color palette of SSJ4. SSJ4: black or brown hair, red fur
Gogeta: red hair and black or brown fur
I’ve really missed that outro song lol
Vegeta going SSJ4 is one of my favorite moments. Goku sitting back and enjoying the show. Love it!
"At long last, I've ascended"~ Super Saiyan 4 Vegeta
We don’t see much of the Golden Great Ape form and when Goku attained it he had no real control of his faculties. How strong is Golden Great Ape? Somewhere between SSJ3 and SSJ4?
My guess is somewhere in between. If I'm recalling correctly, when Baby took over Vegeta, wasn't he able to get to the Golden Oozaru form? Obviously not being able to take it to SSJ4 of course, cause that would have been wacky as hell.
Far stronger than ssj3 look up the saiyan scholar escaling
The funny thing is is that if the saiyan from a thousand years ago was able to control the form he would have turned it to a super Saiyan 4 im assuming lol
I thought Baby was able to control the Golden Ohzaru form because he takes over The bodies of the people he absorbs and keep his own mind. Not because Vegeta once controlled the Great Ape form... Could be wrong though. Been many years since I've seen GT. The Baby arch was one of my favorite arcs in Dragon Ball.
Geekdom my guy. I don’t remember if it’s the first or second bardock special but one of them bardock has predictions of goku black and a few other super related topics. He thinks he’s looking at goku if he doesn’t change his destiny but it’s goku black. I’ll see if I can find some clips to verify.
What about Super Saiyan 100 remember that?
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My Japanese wife said that 'GT' means Gomenasai Toriyama, which means sorry Toriyama because Akira Toriyama did not want to make GT after dragon ball Z, but the animation company wanted to. Meanwhile Toriyama focused on Dragon Quest. Toriyama wasnt involved.
It's great!
Do a video about SSJ 4 Limit Breaker!! In episode 10 of Ultra God Mission he is equal in power with Ultra Instinct.. (but was overcome by Mastered Ultra Instinct)
Also react to Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Meteor Mission episode 1 and 2!!
Full powered SSJ4 should just be called SSJ4 restored since that’s basically what they did or at least that’s how I always interpreted that
It's kinda weird since Super Saiyan grade 4 is the exact same thing + technically from my knowledge u cant go into the form on ur own. Xenoverse surprisingly doesnt with it mainly being a separate skill in relation to SS4. Transformation is used as a blanket term but i think it's fair to assume considering we got grades of SS, that FPSS4 is basically an upgraded SS4
My theory is golden ape is 4000x modifier (400 from 3 x 10 from oozaru). Anyhow I prefer the god forms to 4, but I appeeciate that some real thought did seem to be behind it.
I have heard weird things from fans about 4 over the years. Like it can absorb attacks directed at it based on this kind of Super Full Power 4
I really like GT it's legendary 🙌
I hope Goku Jr is in Sparking
Ive always wondered why didn't trunks have a tell like Gohan
I would like to believe that Super Saiyan for Gogeta is the master form of Super Saiyan 4 sort of like Ultra Instinct with the silver hair is the master form of it
i always thought gogeta had red hair because ss4 vegeta had dark maroon colour hair and it just shown through somehow through the fusion
Huh, I don't remember commenting this?
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It's seems like it makes sense that you need SSJ to go SSJ Oozaru, and at least the form is 60x stronger. And by the confines of the anime story to me SSJ Oozaru is a true SSJ and SSJ4 is actually a True SSJ2