Really cool to see the cfmoto content tbh, I loce seeing all the stuff theyre coming out with :) Performed better than i thought it would on the highway tbh! Those mpgs are a lot better than my vstrom too and i have to commute 120miles a day :'(
Just snagged a 300nk for commuting to downtown austin. It will do the highway, tops out at like 90 with the right conditions. Won't win any races but as my first bike its perfect for learning until I'm ready to step up!
Jake is the embodiment of crazy and goofy and fun on motorcycles..... and I think it's great. Too much seriousness in bikes. Make motorcycles fun again.
Had a little moto expo here recently and CFMOTO had a lot of interesting things there, naked 800 being one of them but what I'd LOVE to see looked at in this channel is the new Kove 800. Basically the chinese tenere 700 but the claimed weight is ridiculously low for what it is. I saw it too, couldnt sit on it but the bike looked built well.
I didn't realize you knew Spite. Love that guy. Lately I've been watching his content on the 800NK. I'm seriously debating between getting a Husqvarna Svartpilen 401 and a cfmoto Ibex 450. If KTM/Husqvarna hadn't bailed on their 490/501 twin cylinder bike plans I would already have an order in for a Svartpilen 501. I have a feeling this 450NK engine might be the one that would've been in those bikes since KTM has a partnership with cfmoto, but that's only speculation.
I’ve had 23 motorcycles and the build quality of my CFmoto 450 doesn’t leave me questioning the reliability of it. I’ve definitely had Japanese bikes that were more questionable and they weren’t old clapped out bikes. I really think CFmoto is hitting the market in a different way and shaking up the bag. That’s going to cause the Japanese brands to innovate more and when companies are in a innovation battle the customer is the winner👍🏼
Ive had mine for two weeks. I love how it sounds at higher rpms. Have you watched Jurassic park the lost world, well it sounds like the baby trex howling out for its mama. I love it.
New to your channel. I have a '22 CFMoro CLX 700 Heritage. I love this bike. It gives the seating you described that would suit you better. I can cruise at 80mph and my rpms are around 5500. Jumps to 6000 when at 85mph. But it is a basic display so rpms jump every 500, nothing in between.
The rpm is irrelevant because the stroke is short, and the pistons and rods are comparatively light. Therefore, the piston speed and cylinder wall loading are not that high.
5:56 Ahh, BMW things.... a pox on them. fishing or powerline? I see what you did there. that little bike is pretty impressive! It really makes me want one.
Should be fine on the highway. Half the time people are doing 55-60 anyways here. One time I was coming down 35 from San Marcos to Schertz on my Monkey(125) and was hitting around 80 and had to keep slowing down in the passing lane because people wouldn't move out of the way.
took my klx 300sm 2 hours down i70 holding anywhere from 75-85mph from indianapolis to springfield ohio and back. small cc bikes can highway. its all about do you have the balls to back it up.
I must say, having a Chinese bike company produce a good quality bike makes me happy. I've looked at a lot of Chinese bikes, and they look good, sound good, have decent performance, but that quality had been lacking, and we're slowly starting to see Chinese manufacturers getting up their. I really do hope CF Moto becomes one of many.
wow crazy the speed limits over there. in New Zealand the speed limits get to 100kmh 😂 happy birthday! fuck ive been subscribed since i was like 12 and you were in your 20s lmao, scary how fast time goes!
i had a ninja 300 back in the day and the top speed was about 108 on flat road, or up to about 116 was the fastest i ever got it. they only had about 35hp at the wheel. of course the fairings will make a slight difference, but not a whole lot at these power levels. maybe 5~6mph at most. but the current ninja and Z are now a 450 as well, so i wonder what their top speed will be. probably about 116 on a flat road, if i had to guess. and i bet the Z won't be all that much lower than the ninjer. holy crap, i just looked up the z500, and the SE version actually has some decent addons, like frame sliders. and a radical red colorway. they just call it candy persimmon red though. they should hire me to name their colors. and only that, but i need a retainer or i'll write names for competitor colors too. i honestly wouldn't mind owning one just for the commute. 51hp ain't far off the z650, especially at 370lbs.
The fairings make a bigger difference than you’d imagine. Without tucking I was hitting the wall around 90-95. Which is pretty nuts cuz just under that at 85 I’m only about 1/3 throttle. But air resistance increases exponentially so it makes sense.
3:12 I mean, sure... it's safe to ride the bike that way, but how far does your mileage drop off? On my FZ-07, I get 55-60mpg when just puttering around town. But when I'm holding 80mph the whole way, my economy drops down to 40mpg. If I could force myself to go only 65mph on the highway I'd be fine, or install a 7th gear, but neither of those are going to happen. 😅 Edit: Wow... we're almost the same age; two-months different. Why do you sound so much younger/happier than I do? Am I just a curmudgeon?
Whenever I pulled back to 70 mph it was getting around 65 mpg on the instant. Pushing it into the 80s definitely pulled it down a bit. Still wasn’t bad and it runs on regular. And man I get to ride bikes for a living so I’m normally in a pretty good mood.
My problem with the CF Moto 450's are they come in at about the same price as the 500 Ninja and Z500 with their 451cc engine. I know CF Moto has made great strides in reliability but Kawasaki has a longer history of gutsy engines.
With matching MSRP's it then becomes who will add to the price. Right now CF Moto is running a rebate sale that knocks the NK below a Z500. If that continues then all the NK models will be a bargain.
Indeed, the coin is 1 jiao. Think of it as a dime so 10 jiao equals 1 yuan. The exchange rate is currently sitting at around 7 Chinese yuan to 1 US dollar so that's worth about 1.5 cents or so. I don't think that will even buy you a donut in China.
I don´t know if I would buy a motorcycle from a chinese brand tbh. It´s not like they have bad quality but I don´t support brands which are fully controlled by the communist party there. We should support western brands or brands with headquarters and production in democratic countries as much as we can.
@@pleasedontwatchthese9593I have nothing against bikes from Asia as long they are produced in a fair enviroment that doesn´t represent a threat to our democracy as China´s goverment does. Japan is an ally and so i´m fine to buy their products. i actually want to get a 636.
@@rgboss1337 you realize that the iphone /android/ pc that you are writing this from is chinese made? most of the electronics you use daily are china made, your all 'MURICAN ford or chevy is probably made with chinese electronics? The only diference is that it has a "western" logo on it. If you buy almost any bike is china made or at least has a lot of components made there. KTM, BMW, and even MVaugusta (most bike brands also) manufactures the bikes in china
In America they kick out all the vote observers, cover the windows, stop voting for hours and then bring in boxes of votes all for the establishment candidate at 3am. We have no right to talk about democracy.
This isn´t true actually. First of all, essembly lines in China just build the stuff for foreign companies but they have no clue how actually produce them from the scratch and this is a key point. China is catching up to western industry because it is prooven that they copy/ steal methods from foreign companies which produce in China, which is considered corporate espionage and it´s illegal but noone in China cares and that´s a problem. The machines to fabricate the parts for motorcycles for example where build in Germany by a robotic company called KUKA and other major players from Germany, Netherlands, Europe in general or the USA produce the machines which are a key element to produce stuff in the first place and China has no access to such advanced technology. China is just a place for stuff gets produced cheaply but they catching up fast because they steal technology from western companies who produce there. That´s a big reason why BMW produces it´s bikes in Berlin- Spandau and not in China as you mentioned. BMW builds it´s bikes for the world market in Germany and only some models for the chinese market are produced in China. And CFMoto bikes are a direct result of KTM´s cooperation with them because CFMoto was initially a contractor for KTM who had the task to just build bikes for KTM but they copied the technology from KTM and build their own bikes now. How do you think where they got the knowledge from? It´s a direct result of corporate espionage.
Heck yes I’ve been waiting for the nk800, this is a serious contender as a second bike for me. I daily a scout rogue but test road a mt07 as a second bike , haven’t wanted to pull the trigger on it , if anyone can give me a honest review it’s @thegardenstake
Is that a Redbull and a donut? what an unhinged combination.
Really cool to see the cfmoto content tbh, I loce seeing all the stuff theyre coming out with :) Performed better than i thought it would on the highway tbh! Those mpgs are a lot better than my vstrom too and i have to commute 120miles a day :'(
I'm just glad the spot worked out lol
Can't wait to see more
Happy birthday Jake. The 450NK seems like a decent bike.
I put some miles on a 450 last weekend. I was impressed with the smooth engine and gearbox. I think there's a thicker seat option for the NK as well.
Just snagged a 300nk for commuting to downtown austin. It will do the highway, tops out at like 90 with the right conditions. Won't win any races but as my first bike its perfect for learning until I'm ready to step up!
Jake is the embodiment of crazy and goofy and fun on motorcycles..... and I think it's great. Too much seriousness in bikes. Make motorcycles fun again.
Had a little moto expo here recently and CFMOTO had a lot of interesting things there, naked 800 being one of them but what I'd LOVE to see looked at in this channel is the new Kove 800. Basically the chinese tenere 700 but the claimed weight is ridiculously low for what it is. I saw it too, couldnt sit on it but the bike looked built well.
Typical BMW driver
Lol this is so true
I didn't realize you knew Spite. Love that guy. Lately I've been watching his content on the 800NK. I'm seriously debating between getting a Husqvarna Svartpilen 401 and a cfmoto Ibex 450. If KTM/Husqvarna hadn't bailed on their 490/501 twin cylinder bike plans I would already have an order in for a Svartpilen 501. I have a feeling this 450NK engine might be the one that would've been in those bikes since KTM has a partnership with cfmoto, but that's only speculation.
I’ve had 23 motorcycles and the build quality of my CFmoto 450 doesn’t leave me questioning the reliability of it. I’ve definitely had Japanese bikes that were more questionable and they weren’t old clapped out bikes. I really think CFmoto is hitting the market in a different way and shaking up the bag. That’s going to cause the Japanese brands to innovate more and when companies are in a innovation battle the customer is the winner👍🏼
Ive had mine for two weeks.
I love how it sounds at higher rpms.
Have you watched Jurassic park the lost world, well it sounds like the baby trex howling out for its mama.
I love it.
Haha
I hope you get a Ibex 450
New to your channel. I have a '22 CFMoro CLX 700 Heritage. I love this bike. It gives the seating you described that would suit you better. I can cruise at 80mph and my rpms are around 5500. Jumps to 6000 when at 85mph. But it is a basic display so rpms jump every 500, nothing in between.
This MIGHT be the bike I get as my first bike. I love what I've seen so far. Still looking and still thinking,
The rpm is irrelevant because the stroke is short, and the pistons and rods are comparatively light. Therefore, the piston speed and cylinder wall loading are not that high.
Hes right about about the seating though.
Makes my shoulder hurt. But im a new rider. I probably look all goofy anyways.
5:56
Ahh, BMW things.... a pox on them.
fishing or powerline? I see what you did there.
that little bike is pretty impressive! It really makes me want one.
i think this might be my next bike. So light and decent power.
Should be fine on the highway. Half the time people are doing 55-60 anyways here. One time I was coming down 35 from San Marcos to Schertz on my Monkey(125) and was hitting around 80 and had to keep slowing down in the passing lane because people wouldn't move out of the way.
I bet this would make a good dual sport
Yo, Garden Snake you and Motocannon should come to Smortcon in Sept. We got Yanki, Ghostontwowheels and Trey, from c2w attending. We need more Goons.
This little bike is actually really good looking tbh
Very capable ! Very capable of many different maneuvers ! With Very good exceleration ! And more ! Then adequate top end speed
took my klx 300sm 2 hours down i70 holding anywhere from 75-85mph from indianapolis to springfield ohio and back. small cc bikes can highway. its all about do you have the balls to back it up.
+1 for everyone on radios lol...they...just...WORK!
I must say, having a Chinese bike company produce a good quality bike makes me happy.
I've looked at a lot of Chinese bikes, and they look good, sound good, have decent performance, but that quality had been lacking, and we're slowly starting to see Chinese manufacturers getting up their.
I really do hope CF Moto becomes one of many.
Yeah CFMOTO is doing it right. Still a lot of cheapo brands out there but these are goods.
wow crazy the speed limits over there. in New Zealand the speed limits get to 100kmh 😂 happy birthday! fuck ive been subscribed since i was like 12 and you were in your 20s lmao, scary how fast time goes!
Stuck on this and the mt03 fir first bike for commute for work
Yooo my bike im fixing up is a 2001 yamaha yzf r6
My first love
Any tips on what to check most for on a bike of this age... I just got it idling on its own and it dies sporadically when revving
im hoping the adventure version of the 450 is going to be good. eying it up as a second bike.
Same
Is CFMoto Chinese I heard on another review video that CFMoto has been building the KTM street engines for awhile?
How do you feel about the 450nk vs the mt07
The 450nk is a better equipped bike in every way other than the motor. That CP2 engine is soooo good.
Agreed, anything under 5K RPMs will cause heat build-up
I am on a GSXR 750 I roll around 7500 for normal operation.
What lol
Red Bull and sprinkle donuts... breakfast of champions. 💪🏼
i had a ninja 300 back in the day and the top speed was about 108 on flat road, or up to about 116 was the fastest i ever got it. they only had about 35hp at the wheel. of course the fairings will make a slight difference, but not a whole lot at these power levels. maybe 5~6mph at most. but the current ninja and Z are now a 450 as well, so i wonder what their top speed will be. probably about 116 on a flat road, if i had to guess. and i bet the Z won't be all that much lower than the ninjer.
holy crap, i just looked up the z500, and the SE version actually has some decent addons, like frame sliders. and a radical red colorway.
they just call it candy persimmon red though. they should hire me to name their colors. and only that, but i need a retainer or i'll write names for competitor colors too.
i honestly wouldn't mind owning one just for the commute. 51hp ain't far off the z650, especially at 370lbs.
The fairings make a bigger difference than you’d imagine. Without tucking I was hitting the wall around 90-95. Which is pretty nuts cuz just under that at 85 I’m only about 1/3 throttle. But air resistance increases exponentially so it makes sense.
Your discord link is actually your Patreon link
Maybe you have to pay to get on the discord
@@pleasedontwatchthese9593 hhhhh
My cb500f also does 175kmh, I don't see why this couldn't.
And 140kmh == ~85mph is no work for these.
You should have stopped to get a beer bread sandwich in west
Is that the move? I’ll try that
3:12 I mean, sure... it's safe to ride the bike that way, but how far does your mileage drop off? On my FZ-07, I get 55-60mpg when just puttering around town. But when I'm holding 80mph the whole way, my economy drops down to 40mpg. If I could force myself to go only 65mph on the highway I'd be fine, or install a 7th gear, but neither of those are going to happen. 😅
Edit: Wow... we're almost the same age; two-months different. Why do you sound so much younger/happier than I do? Am I just a curmudgeon?
Whenever I pulled back to 70 mph it was getting around 65 mpg on the instant. Pushing it into the 80s definitely pulled it down a bit. Still wasn’t bad and it runs on regular. And man I get to ride bikes for a living so I’m normally in a pretty good mood.
@@TheGardenSnakeWow... that's great mileage to still have that much power.
Was yours part of the recall ?
My problem with the CF Moto 450's are they come in at about the same price as the 500 Ninja and Z500 with their 451cc engine. I know CF Moto has made great strides in reliability but Kawasaki has a longer history of gutsy engines.
Dealers where I live sell those kawasaki models for 1500-2k more than NK450
With matching MSRP's it then becomes who will add to the price. Right now CF Moto is running a rebate sale that knocks the NK below a Z500. If that continues then all the NK models will be a bargain.
I see dealers around me with the NK marked down $500-$1000 on their 2024 models. Seems like it's a great deal.
Darn I might not like the ergos , guess I'll text ride the new triump 400s
38-40mpg is very poor for this bike how did you get that less mpg?
I was going 85-90 mph, at a more reasonable 70-75 mph the instant was around 55 mpg
@@TheGardenSnake I didn’t knew that was instant mpg. How was the average mpg these days?
1 minute and 10 seconds into this video and this guy has already been paid by a Chinese company for a whopping 10 Chinese cents!
😂 it’s true
Whats this KPH?!
Kilometers per hour
kilometers per hour, the unit that the rest of the wolrd uses
Its Canadian for "I LOVE YOU"
2:00 This transmission is super close gear transmission. It sucks.
that is RMB 1cent
Indeed, the coin is 1 jiao. Think of it as a dime so 10 jiao equals 1 yuan. The exchange rate is currently sitting at around 7 Chinese yuan to 1 US dollar so that's worth about 1.5 cents or so. I don't think that will even buy you a donut in China.
Eats a double sugar coated donut, but opts for the sugar free redbull.
Wait when’s your bday? I turn 39 on the 15th
25th
Nice! Now I know why we remember the same things growing up
The coin was 1 japanese yen
Are the speeds in kms or miles per hour
Gonna get one today lol
If you haven't ridden a 125 on the highway you don't know what struggling to overtake is like.
I had a Grom haha
you have a point@@TheGardenSnake
Naykid, not neckid, or kneekid lmao
All sounds the same to me
Jake? You are eating a doughnut yet drinking a sugar-free Redbull. All good, just strange.
I don´t know if I would buy a motorcycle from a chinese brand tbh. It´s not like they have bad quality but I don´t support brands which are fully controlled by the communist party there. We should support western brands or brands with headquarters and production in democratic countries as much as we can.
Fair enough, though I'm OK with Japanese bikes
@@pleasedontwatchthese9593I have nothing against bikes from Asia as long they are produced in a fair enviroment that doesn´t represent a threat to our democracy as China´s goverment does. Japan is an ally and so i´m fine to buy their products. i actually want to get a 636.
@@rgboss1337 you realize that the iphone /android/ pc that you are writing this from is chinese made? most of the electronics you use daily are china made, your all 'MURICAN ford or chevy is probably made with chinese electronics? The only diference is that it has a "western" logo on it. If you buy almost any bike is china made or at least has a lot of components made there. KTM, BMW, and even MVaugusta (most bike brands also) manufactures the bikes in china
In America they kick out all the vote observers, cover the windows, stop voting for hours and then bring in boxes of votes all for the establishment candidate at 3am. We have no right to talk about democracy.
This isn´t true actually. First of all, essembly lines in China just build the stuff for foreign companies but they have no clue how actually produce them from the scratch and this is a key point. China is catching up to western industry because it is prooven that they copy/ steal methods from foreign companies which produce in China, which is considered corporate espionage and it´s illegal but noone in China cares and that´s a problem. The machines to fabricate the parts for motorcycles for example where build in Germany by a robotic company called KUKA and other major players from Germany, Netherlands, Europe in general or the USA produce the machines which are a key element to produce stuff in the first place and China has no access to such advanced technology. China is just a place for stuff gets produced cheaply but they catching up fast because they steal technology from western companies who produce there. That´s a big reason why BMW produces it´s bikes in Berlin- Spandau and not in China as you mentioned. BMW builds it´s bikes for the world market in Germany and only some models for the chinese market are produced in China. And CFMoto bikes are a direct result of KTM´s cooperation with them because CFMoto was initially a contractor for KTM who had the task to just build bikes for KTM but they copied the technology from KTM and build their own bikes now. How do you think where they got the knowledge from? It´s a direct result of corporate espionage.
Really? A "is it highway capable" video in 2024? It's a 400 ofc it is.
Haha I said that like 10 seconds in. Watch the intro and you’ll understand.
Here for the algorithm
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Goofy movie reference!
To Waco!
Waco!
A Goofy Movie 7:13
Heck yes I’ve been waiting for the nk800, this is a serious contender as a second bike for me. I daily a scout rogue but test road a mt07 as a second bike , haven’t wanted to pull the trigger on it , if anyone can give me a honest review it’s @thegardenstake