I love this style of video. Little things like how easy it is to do a fender delete, and how much storage space is available are nice to know before buying. Good timing on the video too since I recently found out about the 450SS, and I'm planning for it to be my next bike. The 50HP 270 degree twin is perfect for me, and unlike most bikes with similar or smaller engines, it doesn't look like it'll scrape anything at sharp lean angles unlike every other small bike I've had. The kickstand mount on my Hyosung GT250 almost killed me on the dragon when it scraped.
Just bought one today for my wife Very impressed she is gonna have to fight me off of it. I ride an mt09 and a speed triple 1200rr and this thing is right up there in the fun levels. Took the muffler off as soon as we got home from the dealer sounds insanely good. And it has one of the best TFTs I’ve seen makes my 20k triumph look stupid.
Love the video! It’s nice getting a mechanics POV on a bike. With all the things I look for on a bike. Keep up the great videos man and I hope you do more of these in the future
FYI, TST Industries and R&G Racing have a good list of aftermarket accessories available already for the 450SS (most will fit the NK then). Tail tidy's!!!
Dude, this was awesome. I appreciate you taking a long hard look at the build quality of this bike. It's very informative and I am a lot more confident purchasing a bike from CF Moto. Probably the 800nk
Really like the in depth detail and opinion on this bike...I'm sure a lot of moto family are as curious as I am. Reliability and aftermarket support I think will make this a staple in small displacement motorcycles!!
I made my tail tighty for mine. Then I got the 20$ one that has the turn signals and plate light. I used a piece of sheet metal and basically made a triangle with a long rectangle at the bottom of it. I bent the ends of the rectangle down and drilled the holes for the turn signals. Then drilled the holes for the plate and the three holes to mount it to the bike. Not too bad but the after market is nice and cheap
A CF moto video with no xenophobia (even in the comments, whoa)?! I appreciate you and this is a great in depth review. Clearly separates from all the other nonsensical repetitive reviews. Subbed dude 👍
these are so tempting to get as a beginner. my only concern is part availibility. i dont wanna be down a bike for two weeks waiting for some orings or bullshit. how was the service of these when you were workin in the dealerships? do dealers carry stock? or would most dealers have to order in parts?
Kinda interesting video Looking at the service intervalls and all would also be interesting. It's like a buyers video to a bike, not many of these out there.
just bought this NK450 , 5 days old, i have this issue that everytime I downshift and blip the throttle maybe 3 to 4x times. there are times my engine dies. Is this normal? or something is wrong with the motorcylce? :(
I love this kind of video I'm looking for a light highway bike I hope this NK 450 does come out in a kind of an adventure one yeah I'm looking at a used Versys but I had a 650 V-Strom and I put 26,000 miles on that and then I sold it and I kind of want something a little lighter so if you have any other ideas for me let me know thanks
First good in depth breakdown of a cf moto bike and I'm nearly sold. Wanted the new Suzuki 800 adv bike but then i saw Chase has the cf moto 800 adv and i kinda like it more. Little wary of it but he was talking about riding a thousand miles at a time multiple times and how all it's holding up. I like them
The build quality is way better than I expected from a Chinese bike. My only concern is the engine. Only time will tell how reliable it is. Would also be interesting to see what an exhaust, intake and tune does.
I enjoyed this video style. I saw the fully faired version of this bike around my area during the riding season. I have no interest in owning one, but at least after watching this video, I know that it's a solidly built bike.
Yeah great video! All the other typical reviewers say the same things over and over. It's great to get some perspective about things that most people don't cover or talk about.
CFMOTO should let you modify that bike before you give it back to them so that way they can redesign the bike for retailers/dealerships. yes i am also interested in these kinda videos.
Rito mate they might be decent now but certainly when I worked in the bike shop 10 years ago they weren't cheaply made and no one here wanted to work on them same as hyosung but things have changed according to you. Which would be good if they are now value for money and reliable that would be great 👍
Well yeah I should’ve said that. The main thing I’ve noticed is if it’s got a bit of magnetism it will get rust spots over time. Different grads of stainless, the very high grade ones hold up longer.
We bought a 450ss for our son for his 2nd bike. His first was a klx250s and he still rides it. I was overly impressed with the cfmoto450ss over the ninja400 and the feel and sound made our mind up. Its way more bike then any other small bore sport bike in its class. They fly off the showrooms in Illinois.
I am going with the Ninja 400 for my son's first bike. I was looking at the 450 SS. I have not seen enough of them in the wild yet. But they do look fantastic. The ZX4RR is 10 fuggin grand. My GSXR750 was 10.7k
Oh not mad. Just too much for my sons at first. But yeah, it is an actual track weapon. I know how much it is because I wanted one for the local go cart track. they have 450cc limit. My 750 is only allowed to park in the lot. @@TheGardenSnake
A lot of parts look identical to my 2018 cb500x. Pegs and exhaust for example. I’ve looked into Compton a lil but stil prefer paying a couple g more for a Honda. I feel their a lil underpowered and heavy for what they are. Plus I doubt it’d take 65k km like my 500 has. Wheel bearings and fork seals done once on it since new
@@TheGardenSnake from what I saw other years in their specs it seemed to be that way. Never knew they made arc’s either, only seen their motorcycles coming into Canada last couple years.
Power wise it’s very similar in its delivery and characteristics. The 07 has way more punch though as you would expect. The chassis feel similar but you’ll notice the nk feels a good bit lighter. The nk feels way more plated and confident. The suspension is pretty good and in contrast the 07 is meh. The dash on the nk is nice and make the 07 feel dated. Brakes are both good, not amazing. In most way the nk is better other then that power the 07 has. It really makes the 07 the more fun one to ride.
The cro moly steel is the same family that ktm.uses.on their motogp bikes so... Mild steel is just sh*t steel , the mpa rating is half of cro moly steel.
@@TheGardenSnake its 2023, if i buy new, its either cro moly or alu , just sayin. R3 and ninja400 have frames that fail , just sayin' . All my bikes has shit steel frames but that was before i knew i had a choice.
Seeing oil leak issues with new Harley’s yet people make fun of this because it’s made in China. Well ha ha Harley I haven’t heard any issues with these yet
Chinese shit box I doubt it will hold up out some ks on it and see I guess most the stuff outta china is rubbish and throw away they copy everything and build it half the quality or less yes cheaper but I've had my ktm brand new from 2012 and 18000km bet that thing wont last half that with out alot of repairs
You know KTM and CFMOTO have been partners for over a decade right? They have shared factories. 😂 buddy 🤣 are you gonna be ok?? 🤦♂️🤣🤣 Puts his all might KTM up as the greatest thing in the world to trash CFMOTO, has no idea that CFMOTO builds KTMs now 🤣😂🤣🤣😂. Sorry bro but this kills me. Oh man that was good. But I’m sure your right.
Well guess I'm outta the loop mate but all the cf moto bikes I've seen here in aus don't hold up might be made by ktm now but not the sane quality. Price reflects that.
All the cfmoto bikes you’ve seen don’t hold up… you’ve seen numerous cfmoto bikes and they were falling apart… show me where this is being talking about, show me on line discussions. Give a shed of evidence of what your saying. Because you know what, I just googled it several ways. Australia, CF Moto’s, reliability, issues, falling apart. I found where people are asking about the brand and how it holds up. But nothing like wide spread issues. Look I have nothing to gain here, if the brand sucked then I wouldn’t hesitate to say it. But bro your just making stuff up now.
I love this style of video. Little things like how easy it is to do a fender delete, and how much storage space is available are nice to know before buying. Good timing on the video too since I recently found out about the 450SS, and I'm planning for it to be my next bike. The 50HP 270 degree twin is perfect for me, and unlike most bikes with similar or smaller engines, it doesn't look like it'll scrape anything at sharp lean angles unlike every other small bike I've had. The kickstand mount on my Hyosung GT250 almost killed me on the dragon when it scraped.
Well I just dyno’d it and it did really good. I think you’ll really like the ss.
Jake bring back the old intro
also review the the adventure version of the motorcycle your reviewing rn that would be wonderful
@@jordanschattenberg7752YESSS
CFMoto will probably end up being a quality leading product in the future just like Honda, Yamaha and Kawasaki became in the 70's.
They've actually caught up 100% to the budget end of Japanese bikes, yet people are really slow on the uptake and don't realise it
I hope so.
Just bought one today for my wife Very impressed she is gonna have to fight me off of it. I ride an mt09 and a speed triple 1200rr and this thing is right up there in the fun levels. Took the muffler off as soon as we got home from the dealer sounds insanely good. And it has one of the best TFTs I’ve seen makes my 20k triumph look stupid.
Love the video! It’s nice getting a mechanics POV on a bike. With all the things I look for on a bike. Keep up the great videos man and I hope you do more of these in the future
FYI, TST Industries and R&G Racing have a good list of aftermarket accessories available already for the 450SS (most will fit the NK then). Tail tidy's!!!
Dude, this was awesome. I appreciate you taking a long hard look at the build quality of this bike. It's very informative and I am a lot more confident purchasing a bike from CF Moto. Probably the 800nk
Going over the mechanical stuff like that is useful. No one else does it.
That’s what I was thinking and it’s the stuff I really want to know. Maybe I’ll do this to all bikes I get in the future.
Really like the in depth detail and opinion on this bike...I'm sure a lot of moto family are as curious as I am. Reliability and aftermarket support I think will make this a staple in small displacement motorcycles!!
Great Video! Thanks for the different perspective.
Man only thing I hate about these CF Motos is the pillion seat. I wish they were more like that of the little KTM dukes.
I would love to see more content like this very interesting to see dyno results in real time annual comparisons
I made my tail tighty for mine. Then I got the 20$ one that has the turn signals and plate light. I used a piece of sheet metal and basically made a triangle with a long rectangle at the bottom of it. I bent the ends of the rectangle down and drilled the holes for the turn signals. Then drilled the holes for the plate and the three holes to mount it to the bike. Not too bad but the after market is nice and cheap
I just bought a new Honda Transalp and I like it a lot I’d like to see what you think if you get a chance to ride one
Like many already have commented, these types of videos are great for both beginners and intermediate riders. Keep doing them! 😁🤘
A CF moto video with no xenophobia (even in the comments, whoa)?! I appreciate you and this is a great in depth review. Clearly separates from all the other nonsensical repetitive reviews. Subbed dude 👍
these are so tempting to get as a beginner. my only concern is part availibility. i dont wanna be down a bike for two weeks waiting for some orings or bullshit. how was the service of these when you were workin in the dealerships? do dealers carry stock? or would most dealers have to order in parts?
The dealership told me they can get parts just about as fast as the Hondas and Yamahas they sell.
@@TheGardenSnake good to know! thanks for years of invaluable information jake!
Kinda interesting video
Looking at the service intervalls and all would also be interesting.
It's like a buyers video to a bike, not many of these out there.
I should have pulled up service info. If I do this style video again I’ll do that.
🤝@@TheGardenSnake
I love videos like this!! I hope you are able to do more
Awesome video! Great breakdown. Great classic “Jake nerds out over a bike”! 🥰🥰🥰
Well done well informed just what bike enthusiasts want to know great vid
just bought this NK450 , 5 days old, i have this issue that everytime I downshift and blip the throttle maybe 3 to 4x times. there are times my engine dies. Is this normal? or something is wrong with the motorcylce? :(
I love this kind of video I'm looking for a light highway bike I hope this NK 450 does come out in a kind of an adventure one yeah I'm looking at a used Versys but I had a 650
V-Strom and I put 26,000 miles on that and then I sold it and I kind of want something a little lighter so if you have any other ideas for me let me know thanks
The blue part on the front fender shape reminds me of the husqvarna Nuda fender
First good in depth breakdown of a cf moto bike and I'm nearly sold. Wanted the new Suzuki 800 adv bike but then i saw Chase has the cf moto 800 adv and i kinda like it more. Little wary of it but he was talking about riding a thousand miles at a time multiple times and how all it's holding up. I like them
Fun to see these have a full size OBD 2 port on them, easy to plug a scanner in them
In the next dyno video they plug into some of that. Pretty cool to see.
The build quality is way better than I expected from a Chinese bike. My only concern is the engine. Only time will tell how reliable it is. Would also be interesting to see what an exhaust, intake and tune does.
Yeah time will tell.
@12:37 that taillight reminds me of Cobra Command from GI Joe.
I enjoyed this video style. I saw the fully faired version of this bike around my area during the riding season. I have no interest in owning one, but at least after watching this video, I know that it's a solidly built bike.
Would you recommend this or the ninja 400 for roughly the same price?
10:04 GEARS Racing have adjustables fork cartridge and rear shock for 450sr probably gonna fit 450NK
Just googled it. Very nice! If I owned this that would definitely be on the list as a future update.
Super analysis. Pls do a video like that for re450
Yeah great video! All the other typical reviewers say the same things over and over. It's great to get some perspective about things that most people don't cover or talk about.
Thanks for doing your thing with the c.f. moto's
Front fender looks based on the Husqvarna 900 Nuda
oh yeah it does have that vib
jaaaaakeee the gaarden snaaaaaake!!! you said units!!!
You said that you have a mt-07, is that cfmoto same feel but less power? Or mt-07 just continues to have that unique feeling?
0:17 " i went to school!"
Disappointed that i didnt hear that sound clip :(
You heard it in your head though right
CFMOTO should let you modify that bike before you give it back to them so that way they can redesign the bike for retailers/dealerships. yes i am also interested in these kinda videos.
Rito mate they might be decent now but certainly when I worked in the bike shop 10 years ago they weren't cheaply made and no one here wanted to work on them same as hyosung but things have changed according to you. Which would be good if they are now value for money and reliable that would be great 👍
Please do a review on the CFmoto 450ss !
Ok so here’s the deal. I’ve had a knee surgery and got some slipped disks in my back. Sport bikes aren’t that fun for me after half an hour of riding.
Just because its magnetic doesnt mean it isnt stainless. Not all stainless steels are non-ferrous.
Well yeah I should’ve said that. The main thing I’ve noticed is if it’s got a bit of magnetism it will get rust spots over time. Different grads of stainless, the very high grade ones hold up longer.
We bought a 450ss for our son for his 2nd bike. His first was a klx250s and he still rides it. I was overly impressed with the cfmoto450ss over the ninja400 and the feel and sound made our mind up. Its way more bike then any other small bore sport bike in its class. They fly off the showrooms in Illinois.
I'm torn between 450nk or KTM Duke 390 V2 for my first bike
Which is better in-terms on
*performance
*comfortability
*reliability
Thanks!
The only thing I know for sure is this will be faster
I am going with the Ninja 400 for my son's first bike. I was looking at the 450 SS. I have not seen enough of them in the wild yet. But they do look fantastic. The ZX4RR is 10 fuggin grand. My GSXR750 was 10.7k
The ninja 400 is proven, can’t blame you. I think cfmoto will get there to one day.
The zx4rr is a completely different class to the other 300-500cc bikes
I know. but it is hard to come off 10K for a 400cc no mater how many pistons they have @@thegamingshatt4758
I can’t even be made at the ZX4RR for being that price. It’s a full blown sport bike just with a 400cc. I bet it’s so fun.
Oh not mad. Just too much for my sons at first. But yeah, it is an actual track weapon. I know how much it is because I wanted one for the local go cart track. they have 450cc limit. My 750 is only allowed to park in the lot. @@TheGardenSnake
i like the 800NK ADV
A lot of parts look identical to my 2018 cb500x. Pegs and exhaust for example. I’ve looked into Compton a lil but stil prefer paying a couple g more for a Honda. I feel their a lil underpowered and heavy for what they are. Plus I doubt it’d take 65k km like my 500 has. Wheel bearings and fork seals done once on it since new
Are you saying the 450nk is heavy and underpowered compared to the cb500f? If so the dyno and weighing video next might disagree with that.
@@TheGardenSnake from what I saw other years in their specs it seemed to be that way. Never knew they made arc’s either, only seen their motorcycles coming into Canada last couple years.
You’ll see next video. It’s surprising.
Them mirrors would definitely be an issue for me
Well theres always aftermarket
@@TheGardenSnake Truth
I am 5ft 7 and no issue for me.
How much top speed paps? Can he go 200kph? Can he keep up with z500?
No way, and especially no way with no fairing. I'm sure it'll keep up with the Z500, they're even specced
Hehe thamks for ze video!!!
What’s your comparison with a MT07 just askin? for you opinion
Power wise it’s very similar in its delivery and characteristics. The 07 has way more punch though as you would expect. The chassis feel similar but you’ll notice the nk feels a good bit lighter. The nk feels way more plated and confident. The suspension is pretty good and in contrast the 07 is meh. The dash on the nk is nice and make the 07 feel dated. Brakes are both good, not amazing. In most way the nk is better other then that power the 07 has. It really makes the 07 the more fun one to ride.
@@TheGardenSnake of u want more. Power go for nk800 let see if ur mt07 will easily smoke and dust in a matter of. Seconds
abs problemi sizin ülkedeki üretimlerde de varmı
Good video
isn't an inverted fork supposed to have less unsprung weight?
Yeah and technically stronger. But it’s not that big a deal for a street bike.
Duke 390 or this bike?
2:09 its for the 450sr slider
Oh ok thanks
it looks like there's a plastic cover over a hole in the rear of the swingarm... is that not a spool mount location?
No it’s just a hole into it. Probably something from the manufacturing process.
i love seeing jakes unit!!!
is it a better unit or not jake,,,,,,,lmfao
Great look at The 450NK . Looking forward to the 450MT.
I can’t get past the cheap chain adjusters and repulsive front fender. Ninja 400 exhaust must go too.
I thought cobra, not lady parts? Lmmfao.
The cro moly steel is the same family that ktm.uses.on their motogp bikes so...
Mild steel is just sh*t steel , the mpa rating is half of cro moly steel.
It’s more then strong enough for the use and keeps the price down. All of my bikes are made with “sh*t steel”. I’m good with it.
@@TheGardenSnake its 2023, if i buy new, its either cro moly or alu , just sayin. R3 and ninja400 have frames that fail , just sayin' . All my bikes has shit steel frames but that was before i knew i had a choice.
@@ktkace sounds like you know best 👍
@@TheGardenSnake nah, i just dont want to be ripped off .
sorry jake just fake trolling you but also spamming your comment section to help boost your something on this platform
This bike is a hardcore unit...
Seeing oil leak issues with new Harley’s yet people make fun of this because it’s made in China. Well ha ha Harley I haven’t heard any issues with these yet
I mean the whole bike is trying to be this old school throw back retro thing. Leaking oil is just authentic!
*?
my dude. J.Juan is a spanish company based in barcelona and was bought out by brembo. a little ignorant with that pronunciation...
Oh sorry. So it’s Spanish Juan, I got you.
Chinese shit box I doubt it will hold up out some ks on it and see I guess most the stuff outta china is rubbish and throw away they copy everything and build it half the quality or less yes cheaper but I've had my ktm brand new from 2012 and 18000km bet that thing wont last half that with out alot of repairs
You know KTM and CFMOTO have been partners for over a decade right? They have shared factories. 😂 buddy 🤣 are you gonna be ok?? 🤦♂️🤣🤣 Puts his all might KTM up as the greatest thing in the world to trash CFMOTO, has no idea that CFMOTO builds KTMs now 🤣😂🤣🤣😂. Sorry bro but this kills me. Oh man that was good. But I’m sure your right.
Well guess I'm outta the loop mate but all the cf moto bikes I've seen here in aus don't hold up might be made by ktm now but not the sane quality. Price reflects that.
All the cfmoto bikes you’ve seen don’t hold up… you’ve seen numerous cfmoto bikes and they were falling apart… show me where this is being talking about, show me on line discussions. Give a shed of evidence of what your saying. Because you know what, I just googled it several ways. Australia, CF Moto’s, reliability, issues, falling apart. I found where people are asking about the brand and how it holds up. But nothing like wide spread issues. Look I have nothing to gain here, if the brand sucked then I wouldn’t hesitate to say it. But bro your just making stuff up now.
Oh just found the public records in Australia on recalls involving motorcycles. Bro it doesn’t help your case at all.
@@TheGardenSnake may be this guy bro are newly born edioot hahaha, doesn't know about the capability of cfmoto jahaha