Review and Test: JAXON WATERCOLOURS - Same as Prima Marketing???

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  • Опубліковано 17 вер 2021
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  • @sueallen952
    @sueallen952 8 місяців тому +1

    Ive just bought these from an online art shop in UK, wish I had seen this befor I ordered, ive got prima and mungyo!!!!!

    • @LanaGoesArt
      @LanaGoesArt  8 місяців тому

      Oh no, I'm sorry it happened to you. It's indeed very misleading, that they sell these paints under so many different names. Hope you got at least some colors you don't have in the other sets.

  • @zoetkt
    @zoetkt 2 роки тому +2

    This was so helpful! I have been tempted to buy the for years now, mainly due to the candy like pictures they have on the box and because I thought they are made in Germany. Thankfully I always managed to hold back 😄 thanks to your video I now know I don't need to try them! I agree it is annoying that the same paints are branded and marketed by different distributors implying they are something different that the rest of the market.

    • @LanaGoesArt
      @LanaGoesArt  2 роки тому

      Thanks! I hoped it would be helpful to others. :) I was very disapointed too as I went into this with the same assumptions that you have. But yeah... At least now we all know. :D
      Have a happy new year!

  • @WeblightDreams
    @WeblightDreams 2 роки тому +2

    I think the reason so many art supplies get sold under different names is because it's hard to make one own formula. I would love to make my own watercolors.

    • @LanaGoesArt
      @LanaGoesArt  2 роки тому

      That is true, but binder is usually not as complicated as most companies want to make you believe. Take a look at Eve Bolt's channel or Penholder Art, they both make amazing watercolours themselves (Eve has the best metallic paints I've ever tried! Dan has a version of PO49.) And both have videos or streams of how they make their paints where they give plenty of info and tips in case you want to try making your own paints.

  • @CyaneInkArt
    @CyaneInkArt 2 роки тому +3

    This was really interesting video! I think I have seen this rebranded here as Pigment watercolor Aqua art here. I don't like rebranding either, especially when they rebrand cheaper ones and sell them as "premium"... It is also bit misleading and can end up buying same thing twice.

    • @Lemu_with_a_shirt
      @Lemu_with_a_shirt 2 роки тому +1

      Oh that stuff is the same? I bought a set once because it was cheaper than buying an empty tin, and I needed one. I hardly use them, especially because they smell so much. Have been pondering on getting some jaxon to try out, but in that case I'm glad I didn't.

    • @LanaGoesArt
      @LanaGoesArt  2 роки тому

      Thanks Cyane! I didn't know the same paints are sold in Finland under a different name too.

  • @afos32
    @afos32 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you for this information. Your paintings are beautiful love the color choices 😊

    • @LanaGoesArt
      @LanaGoesArt  2 роки тому

      Thank you so much! I'm glad you liked the paintings and found the info helpful. :)

  • @justacatwhocantype
    @justacatwhocantype 2 роки тому +3

    These watercolors are made by Mungyo and marketed under a bunch of different names, including Jane Davenport and Prima. They're decent watercolors, I do like them, but I feel that they do feel quite a bit different than any other watercolor that I am used to. And yes, it is very annoying that they included this mixed Ultramrine in this set, especially considering that this line has a lovely single pigment PB 29 which they call Cobalt Blue. And interestingly, when I looked at the sets that are marketed under the original name Mungyo, I noticed that they have the same color selection, with the only difference being that they include the Cobalt blue instead of the Ultramarine. I think what happened is that someone who works at Honsell decided that this set needs to include an Ultramarine, as is common for modern western sets, without ever looking at the actual pigments, and so the sets that are labelled jaxon contain this impractical mixed pigment color. And I must say that when one replaces the mixed pigment with the single pigment PB29, this set of 12 suddenly becomes pretty useful. Yes, it only has one red, but I think it is gorgeous, and the presence of the diox violet and orange make it ok for me to have just the one red. But of course that is just my opinion and how I use colors. This series does include some lovely cool and warm reds that one could add to the set.
    All in all I think these are very fun paints, boldly pigmented and with great flow, any the colors are beautiful, but because there are so many mixed pigments I would not suggest this for people who are just learning, or as one's only set. But as an interesting add on most definitely. I have 27 of their colors and I am contemplating buying more, just because they are so fun. I do not use them very often, but whenever I do I really enjoy them.
    Oh and to answer your question: I don't think I really have an opinion on the same things being sold under different names. I think it's just a result of the global market and the insane number of affordable art supplies that are all available to us right now. Of course it is impossible for al those companies to manufacture their own stuff, so private labeling is the way to go. I guess it can be disappointing to accidentally buy the same thing twice, but at the same time, it is this type of marketing that allows us to buy so many things at such low prices. So it's two-sided really.

    • @LanaGoesArt
      @LanaGoesArt  2 роки тому +2

      Thanks for your elaborate comment and I agree, that I did enjoy Prima when I got them. Those sets also have colour selections which are more fun and better thought out, which automatically makes it better for me. With these I was just so disapointed and I would have liked to know before buying. (The photos of the shop and on the box are very misleading.) The colour selection is still what makes me most unhappy, as you said, they do have nice colours in their range and it would be better to include them to the palette like the PB29 or a cool red. Especially for those who just start out, it would make it easier to learn mixing and explore colour theory. Those who may just start out probably don't know enough to adjust their palettes and just want something that works.

    • @justacatwhocantype
      @justacatwhocantype 2 роки тому +2

      ​@@LanaGoesArt Yes, you are right, this is definitely not a set for beginners, and even for practiced painters it isn't ideal because of the blue situation. I would be fine to work with it if it contained a pure PB29. I definitely do prefer a split primary but a reasonable rainbow palette will do if need be, and some staple colors, like Ultramarine, are present. For beginners, however, I think that a split primary is really important, as well as having those typical standard colors that are common throughout the various brands. I think learning on this Jaxon set, especially without guidance from someone who could put in into perspective, could be quite difficult. Not only because of the selection of the colors, but also because one would have a hard time following tutorials and courses that are based on the typical color selection of split primary watercolor sets.

    • @LanaGoesArt
      @LanaGoesArt  2 роки тому +1

      @@justacatwhocantype Very true! I prefer a colour selection that is kind of a "split primary" myself - actually planning a video on this. :)

    • @justacatwhocantype
      @justacatwhocantype 2 роки тому +1

      @@LanaGoesArt Please do make a video on your colour choices, I would be interested in seeing that. It's always so cool to see what pigments other people like to use and why.

    • @LanaGoesArt
      @LanaGoesArt  2 роки тому

      @@justacatwhocantype I will try! :) I'll have a trip soon, so I won't have all my supplies accessible, but I will put that idea on my list. :) Have a great day!

  • @Lemu_with_a_shirt
    @Lemu_with_a_shirt 2 роки тому +2

    I think it could be useful to have both in the database, for people who don't know. And maybe do have a note that it's the same as.
    Or you could maybe put them in once, but with the name jaxon/prima/etc.

    • @LanaGoesArt
      @LanaGoesArt  2 роки тому +1

      Yeah, in the end it will probably come to one of these solutions. Because I was asked about them a few times and whether I'll include them, it would be helpful for people to research.

  • @RATTE1606
    @RATTE1606 2 роки тому +1

    I find this small palette highly interesting.
    I think if I learn more about the pigments you contain, I will also be able to mix meaningful shades as needed, because the colors partially neutralize or add up to each other. the same yellow pigment PY14 is included in several colors: permanent yellow, orange, yellow-green, yellow ochre, red ochre light... red pigments are also included in different colors: permanent red contains PR112, PR170, red ochre light contains PR101. PR 48:4 & some yellow PY14.... yellow-green mixed with red ochre light will gives a wonderful brown :).
    yellow-green & brilliant green can be tamed with some permanent red...
    results are useful for shadows, or natural leaf green as needed. with the bluish colors it is similar,
    even if I don`t yet understand why one mixed here in this ultramarine blue PB29 some Prussian blue PB27...
    this will certainly make any mixture with this ultramarine mix look a bit unclean. O.o
    to find the right mixing ratios I still have to practice a bit with this awesome little palette. I rarely use opaque white/opaque black because I play with water & colors on white paper.
    I like transparency & watercolor effects :)

    • @LanaGoesArt
      @LanaGoesArt  2 роки тому +1

      Hi, thanks for your input. But knowing about pigments and how to mix colours is where I'm coming from (btw check out the watercolour database sunandcolors.com/ I've created) and therefore I don't like to have mixed colours in my palettes that contain the same pigments, it's not necessary, I can mix them and create my own cohesive palettes as needed. The colour selection felt just so weird ad I explained in the video. I do also preferr a pure PB29 especially when PB27 is included in the same palette already. If you like transparency, then this palette might not be for you either, as there are other brands that offer more transparent colours without many additives.

    • @RATTE1606
      @RATTE1606 2 роки тому

      ​@@LanaGoesArt
      thanks for the link. I will take a closer look at this and learn from these experiences.

  • @JMDesigneoDesenhista
    @JMDesigneoDesenhista 2 роки тому +1

    Excelente trabalho meus parabéns