VEGANS REACT to Jubilee's "6 Vegans vs 1 Meat Eater" | judging other vegans for being judgmental
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- Опубліковано 3 лис 2020
- We had a lot of fun watching and reacting to Jubilee's "6 Vegans vs 1 Meat Eater: Odd Man Out" where a group of seven people try to figure out who amongst them is not vegan. Judgments are made within the video both fairly and unfairly and we definitely had some opinions to share!
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Is it bad that I’m just really glad Erin didn’t win any money?
A reasonable response!
No it’s called honesty
no not at all :)
Vegan or not, Erin is just a horrible person in my opinion.
@@zuxx00 Agreed! She legit made Brandon feel bad for not doing veganism “right”
Brandon deserved an apology from Erin😡 He really was getting attacked
Poor Brandon :( it really got us when he said the thing about "I could've had five vegan friends..."
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They were actually getting along, she was literally just playing the game.
Why was he attacked for eating buckwheat? Wasn’t it literally made for vegans and no carb people?
@@marieremelie6716 I guess she just thought it was sus lmao. I mean I've never really heard many people eating buckwheat tbh lol. But it was only a game anyway.
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@@oomfiekat nah she was being a bitch. Idgaf where I am or what I'm playing, my character is coming first. She bullied that dude and got defensive when someone called out her ignorance.
Seems like Erin forgot that not only do you need to be nice to animals but also to humans!
But humans are animals
@@mip4422 There's no scientific evidence. Darwin actually contradicted his own theory afterwards. And several other scientists since then have proven the theory to be false but we stick to it like glue because it's easy?
@@Bellz972 I never said humans are monkeys lol, although we do share a common ancestor. Heck, all organic life shares a common ancestor with the first 1-celled organism. We are certainly not fungi, microbes, or plants. So we are in the broad animal category. Mammals, to be more specific, due to milk producing females. And Darwin may have not been fully correct but he was pretty much there.
@@Bellz972 do you not believe humans are animals ?
@@mip4422 we are primates...that's it , end of the story.
there is no way erin doesnt follow that vegan teacher.
what if that’s her mom lol
@@mollysanders8023 i would not be surprised
LMAO vegans are fucking cool as hell But THAT Vegan TEACHER Is crazy 👀🕵 she really need to chill, when i found this channel i was worried if they were like her smh BUT THERE NOT 😃✨ So im gonna sub 😉
I'm seeing many comments about that teacher. What is it all about?
I can’t really explain what it is, but basically That Vegan Teacher is a tiktok user, who’s super vegan and very toxic.
Many people have made videos on her, so consider looking at some of those since I’m not the best at explaining.
Sour patch kids are vegan.... You guys should watch the follow up to this
We'll definitely check it out! And yes, we just checked again and it seems you're right about Sour Patch Kids. There was conflicting info when we originally researched :)
@@VeganYums It's vegan in the USA but no where else, so that might have been why there was different info🌿 Everytime I go to the states I stock up on sourpatch kids 😋
In Australia theyre vegan atm
@@inperpetuummillie9948 even the sugar?
@@inperpetuummillie9948 you can get vegan ones in the uk
It was gatekeeping vegans that kept me from being vegan for so long. Finally it was hearing from more patient vegans who made me feel that even reducing animal products was a step in the right direction, that helped me to go fully vegan.
Yes! Gatekeeping vegans are so toxic for the community 🙄 congratulations and keep up the good work! 🥰
@@VeganYums i was interested with veganism and vegetarianism, but then people like erin and such make me never want to do it. Why are you so aggressive when all you eat was plants?
@@havefuntazarasu5367 I think that veganism really flips a switch for some people. Everyone has a reason to go vegan. Maybe health, environmental concerns, or animal rights… and when you make that commitment it can really feel life changing. But then I think a lot of people start to see something very nuanced as suddenly black and white. They forget that this is something everyone needs to come to on their own. I mean, why would someone stick to this if they didn’t have a reason? I know I wasn’t some horrible unmotivated person pre-veganism, I just didn’t have the same information I do now. Instead of being the angry vegan, I find the best way to influence people around me is to just live my best life and let them ask the questions. However, I can understand how especially in new vegans, there is this desperation to share what they’ve learned, and I think it comes from a good place, it’s just not very grounded.
@@misslindseychris that goes also for preaching any ideology
Like religions and life styles and such....
No one can stand or listen to the agressive preachers 😩
useless weirdo
It was so mean of Erin to act like this. If she truly cares and supports the animal cause, she should be happy that others are trying their best even if they still make some mistakes. It's almost like she wants to be the most vegan of all and it's pretty dumb ....
it be like that when being vegan is your whole personality
She was very unlikeable from that video
@@justthatgamergirl1 agreed
Or she was playing the game. Can’t help but think if a guy was doing the same he would just be called competitive
@@kstar1489 Seriously? Why does everybody's mind immediately go to BUT IF IT WAS A MAN/WOMAN like chill. Plus I completely disagree with that statement. Her being Female wasn't mentioned or even REFERENCED once. They don't like her cuz of how she acted with aggression and completely ignored the purpose of the game with intent to weed out the "BAD VEGANS" (cuz let's be honest, that's what she was doing). This just seems like an excuse to use the MEN SUCK hashtag, which we do, but there are plenty of other things we have extensive privilege over, but THIS wasn't one.
"i could have had 5 other vegan friends"
oh my god brandon 😭😭
Poor Brandon 😭
"What's your favorite candy"
"Nerds"
"name one"
"Nerds"
"Just name one"
"Sour patch kids"
"Ok those aren't vegan"
Omg she needs to calm down
Ironically she’s supposedly a yoga teacher.
Wow Erin was so awful! She makes vegans look bad by being so aggressive and preachy.
She was literally just playing the game though, they mention they actually got along in the follow up video.
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She is sadly why i try to avoid vegans because she acts like all the vegans ive met and i just dont want to be around aggressive in your face type of people. I also think this is a steroytope that has been protrayed to me all my life and it has always come true. I was glad to see the other vegans not act like this so that i didn't have this steroytype in my head anymore.
@@annacarlson2834 true, we should all be a bit calmer and composed. but you can't really blame some for being so passionate, it's just like any other injustice, when people fought against slavery/segregation back in the day they were hated by the majority and obviously ostracised. Similar to the injustice of factory farming, many don't see it as being that bad so activists have to be 'loud' and 'preachy' just like when they fought for women's rights after WW2.
for me personally, I understand what other vegan activists are fighting for but I would try to be calm like Earthling Ed.
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plus Erin was simply playing the game, you can't really blame her for playing a little aggressive to win.
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@@whywhy3845 I mean, I suppose some 'people' can come off as 'aggressive' but she didn't really say anything mean to anyone. Plus I'm sure there are a lot more toxic people in other games, let's be real.
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@@oomfiekat she was "playing the game" but her method didn't even worrrrrk.
Her being like, "hOnEy IsN't VeGaN" makes me so annoyed. Honey isn't definitively not vegan, it's something vegans talk about and some vegans eat and use honey and some don't.
That's bullshit though. Honey is an animal product = it's not vegan. The way it is harvested is stressful for bees and the replacement sugar water they get isn't good for them. How is it vegan to eat honey?
@@effimation Google is free.
@@jellybeansushi im not even saying you cant call yourself vegan when you eat honey but by fact it isnt vegan. And labelling it as such is simply wrong.
@@effimation Do you feel better? You got to *try* to prove you're smarter than a girl, go pester someone else with your ignorance.
@@jellybeansushi lol wtf you stated that honey "isn't not" vegan and I simply corrected you and said it's not vegan. I don't know why that would make me ignorant or feel better. Get over yourself.
Erin wasn’t looking for the meat eater she was looking for “bad vegans”.
I've seen this before and if I wasn't familiar with Jubilee I would have thought Erin was the mole because of her lack of knowledge regarding vegan friendly junk foods.
INTERESTING! Yeah it was a little suspect.
I thought she was the mole because she seemed like a caricature of vegan stereotypes.
When I watched the video the first time, I thought Erin was the mole and was playing the stereotype as an outsider. Especially because she was defensive whenever people questioned her.
This is a hot take!
I'm not vegan but I imagine if you go vegan, especially as an adult, you will still have foods you enjoy that aren't vegan, even if you don't eat them. So questions like "what's your favorite candy" could be answered with a non-vegan candy, that doesn't mean the person isn't vegan now.
This is an excellent point!
i thought she was going to get a towel to clean up the wine, but then she came back with more wine XD
Hahaha she did clean it up she just cut that moment out I think 🤣
I’ve never watched a vegan documentary bc they’re too graphic and I’m too sensitive 😂 nearly 6 years vegan!🥰
Love that you know and respect your own boundaries and congratulations on 6 years!! 🥳 👏🏻👏🏻
True, my parents made me watch 5 different documentaries when I was younger (I think that's part of the reason I grew a bad relationship with food.) 2 of the 5 were vegan documentaries and they were SO graphic. I was a kid and It basically scarred me. The other 3 were more lax and just talked about how horrible the industries were. I only remember the name of 1, it was OMG GMO or something.
Same 8 years strong the only one I’ve ever watched was when we were forced to watch it in 8th grace
There is manipulation on both sides on this subject sadly, don't believe every documentary out there, especially those from PETA. Not all meat industry is that bad, just like all vegans aren't as annoying as erin.
@@brent8407 all meat industries are bad.. simple. As long as it involves exploiting and killing innocent beings, it's a bad industry.
I eat mostly plantbased. 100% vegan isnt doable with my living situation. I think the documentary question is a bit vile. I avoid those on purpose, I get so exhausted and burnt out when I start informing myself about the issues in the world I barely find the strength to get up in the morning.
Hey there! We can't stomach much documentary/slaughterhouse footage either and definitely relate to getting down sometimes when thinking about injustice and oppression. It really sounds like you're doing your best in your circumstances and it's a journey. Remember that and take things day by day
when you said your diet was mostly carbs and followed it with "aren't most vegans" I've never felt more understood
Hahaha YES! You’ve come to the right place. We are very pro carb here 🍞🥯🥐🥖
Here’s another perspective for you ladies..I’m sorry for me when I think of vegans I think of rich, sometimes privileged dare i say it ‘white’ ppl living in the city going to their yoga classes eating at their fancy expensive cafes, going trader joes living in their studio apartments. Who can very comfortably afford their vegan lifestyle at great costs. (And yes I know I’m generalising), their biggest fight is to protect the animals...which I’m not denying is good!! This is my problem, is that there is plenty of urban cities in the us where there are literal ‘food deserts’ where ppl of colour are not even able to access adequate food, especially fruit and veges. So No farmers markets, no trader joes...not even a fruit shop in site yet nobody wants to say anything. Sometimes it bothers me when I see ppl fight more for the rights of animals then for humans to get adequate access to food sometimes in the same city just to feed their families. Sorry for the long winded explanation but thought I could share a different POV.
Hey! This is so important. Something we’re actively working on is being more intersectional in our approach to veganism. Thank you for raising this ❤️
This is exactly what I think of because many poor ppl don't have this option. There are even food desserts in this country. Brandon said it didn't hurt his feelings but in the moment I can here here felt some type of way. He's just nice.
It's true that it does take some privilege to become vegan when you're not raised as such, however it is a myth that being vegan is super expensive and inaccessible bc even in food deserts, they still have rice, beans, canned/frozen veggies. Also, surprisingly enough, black Americans are 2-3x as likely to be vegan than white Americans 😁
PETA has sour patch kids listed as vegan on their website.
The separation of plant-based vs vegan is honestly more harmful to the movement than helpful. There’s no need to place humans in such strict boxes. Any effort is helpful - there’s no need to make people feel unwelcome in some “elite” club because they use non-vegan products.
We totally agree any effort helps! ☺️However a person who buys, let’s say, a leather product wouldn’t really be a vegan in our opinion, as they support an industry that commodifies death. Or wool where there is potential for mistreatment. Same with a person who eats eggs, they aren’t vegan, they are some degree of vegetarian.
We strive to be as welcoming as possible, and do our best not to perpetuate the gatekeeping that the vegan community is notorious for.
We love and appreciate any small change someone makes to help animals, the planet and themselves 🥰
thank you for you insight! Having this conversation is so important
I agree, not everyone have the same resources to research about the veganism, or even for buy the right things to be "fully vegan" (like soaps, shampoo, make up, medicine, etc) but at the end of the day the point is to contribute as less as possible to the damage of the environment and animals 💖
@@VeganYums Yes, but we all accidentally have bought things we didn't know weren't vegan like modge podge/glue or soap as someone brought up. Leather and wool are the tip of the iceburg.
Absolutely! We aren’t denying that and slip up ourselves sometimes too. It’s about intention.
I still have an issue with “if you intentionally buy anything that somehow leads back to the animal agriculture industry then you are not part of our group”. Then we get into splitting hairs for no reason. Like bone char in sugar or honey. I think you should ask yourselves why you feel the need to police other peoples’ journeys. I do understand where you’re coming from because I’ve been there before. It’s a topic that involves a lot of emotion when you are in it for the animals. But the truth is, lots of people aren’t in it for the animals, and that is okay. If someone goes vegan for their health and still buys leather intentionally, why wouldn’t you want to include them in the vegan community? Why wouldn’t you want to have them feel welcomed and supported so hopefully they’re able to sustain that vegan diet for as long as possible? Gatekeeping veganism is mad weird to me.
Am I the only one who would have asked questions related to meme and funny jokes between vegans like: "what's the ingredient that is almost in every fucking food even if it could be easily vegan?" or "what is your favourite vegan meme page?" or "Are you also an activist? Why and why not?" or "how do you check if a pair of shoes or a sweater are vegan?" or "what are some of the substitutes for eggs in a recipe?" or "what is your favourite plant milk?" or "what is your favourite vegan brand?" or "how people usually react when you tell them you are vegan?" or "how did your family react to you going vegan?" or idk... more chill questions?
^great tactics!
Yeah I would've asked stuff like that too, including 'whats your favourite documentary' and 'whos your favourite vegan youtuber/celeb/doctor'.
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@@Sophie-dd7rx usually milk powder is put in so so many products that look like they could be vegan
When I watched this I was so frustrated, I felt so bad for Brandon. What someone once told me about veganism is it's hard to be perfect. What matters is that you're trying your best. It's the all or nothing gatekeeping that pushes people away from the lifestyle.
The worl needs more Brandon vegans (/almost vegans) than some perfect Erins 10 years vegan
I don’t say I’m vegan anymore because of people like erin 😬I just say I don’t intake meat or dairy and try buy natural products I live in the middle of nowhere but I make things work🤣
I dont think that’s fair to the vegan movement. If people always associate veganism to ppl like Erin and not to people like you, then nothing will change! Im proudly vegan, but Im also not an annoying person. Ive managed to change everyone in my life’s opinion on veganism, where once they had rolled their eyes and called vegans crazy. It has a tangible impact on our communities.
Erin is the worst, she sets a terrible example for non-vegans like me and others. Love your channel by the way, I'm not a vegan but I enjoy vegan food from time to time
Thank you for watching!! Glad to hear you're open to vegan food :)
“The worst” lmao, a bit dramatic
@@kstar1489 are you Erin's backup account
I am also vegan for the environment, for almost 3 years now. For me its the biggest reason, but for a few months now i have read more on reddit about animals and all and i wouldnt go back to animal products even if we discovered a way right now to stop climate change once and for all. I dont care super much about animals, but i care enough to not want them in factory farms and not want them killed.
I've been vegan for twelve years. I haven't watched a vegan documentary in at least eleven years and can't name one blogger off the top of my head.. I have gone so hard on trying to not be a toxic vegan, a la Erin.
I’ve been vegetarian for 13 years and over the years I’ve grown stricter with what I eat. I was 8 when I cut meat out so I was super uneducated I know it’s different from being vegan but it made me so mad to watch her calling poor Brandon out when he said multiple times he’s new and figuring it out still. Everyday I learn a little more and figure out more and slowly I’ll get to as close to vegan as I can (can’t go fully for Heath reasons and allergies) but it’s a journey.
"whats your favorite restaurants?"
"Oh i really love this cajun vegan restaurant!"
"Everything he says is just so random"
....Bitch what
Lol, in the behind the scenes, it makes more sense. A lot was cut out from the conversation.
Erin: “I want to hear from more people”
Then continues to interrogate Brandon
We DID end up trying Taco Bell btw y'all: ua-cam.com/video/dFzWz9uqYco/v-deo.html
Sour patch kids used to have gelatine in Australia but now they are vegan. It happened at the same time as USA went the other way. I’m not sure why they would do that?!
So strange! May something to do with the manufacturers or country specific regulations?
I bought some the other day in America and they’re still vegan I just checked the bag
Yes, Taco Bell vegan mukbang!!
Coming soon!
Update: here's the Taco Bell Mukbang - ua-cam.com/video/dFzWz9uqYco/v-deo.html
i’m 14 and the only vegan in my family, so i eat plant-based. for me i’m not vegan 100% of the time. sometimes i have to just be vegetarian for cooking at school.
Hey Zara! Sounds like you’re killing it and doing the best you can. Thank you so much for watching and commenting 💖
Corn tortillas don't have eggs it's just corn and water it's been like that since the first tortilla was made haha
As a vegetarian that blog/documentary question was so weird to me because like... I didn’t do any research or watch any documentaries. Occasionally I have to google like “Does ___ have meat in it?” But that’s really it...
Ahhhh black bean crunch wrap fresco style, add guac!!! Then if I’m coming home I’ll melt some vegan cheese on it
Yum! That sounds so good 🤤
@@VeganYums Yesss and I love the Tofutti guacamole sour cream too with it!!! 😍
We haven’t tried that! We’ll have to find it now 😍
@@VeganYums Were you guys able to try it!? ☺️☺️
Not yet! We’re in a lockdown here in Toronto so pretty much staying in and cooking at home but next time we get the chance we shall 🙂
Jubilee has talked about this video and the Erin situation. They don’t edit people to negatively impact their image, they actually try to edit them to look better if they are acting up. They tell all of the people that are casted that the way they behave is the way that they will be seen online. So the way that Erin was acting was just how she was. That being said, Erin had a good strategy for questioning, especially if they’re trying to find the mole, but she did seem very superior and self righteous in the way she would correct everything Brandon had to say.
Had her questioning been directed at more people and less rude, it definitely would have worked out better. She honed in on one person every round and derided them constantly, which not only lost her the game but also made her look like a ridiculous parody.
Omg I saw the jubilee video before I became vegan and it made me laugh then, but now I just find it extremely hilarious.
Yeah it's hilarious! They released a follow-up video recently about it, so we think we're going to check it out and react to it as well 😂
Sameee
erin was just mean and needs to realize not everyone is LIKE her. like tf
This is kind of annoying because people like aaron or erin or whatever are the reason veganism seem so exclusive. Which is not what you want when yoh want to spread a message and activly influence change.
My brother-in-law is Jewish, and he showed this video to his grandparents who are Holocaust survivors. His grandmother said Erin reminded her of her neighbor who used to spit on their doorstep and call them derogatory names because they were Jewish.
*Me just paying attention*
Jaylyn: So we raise our hands if we think ‘he’ is still in here?
Me: If only one of them caught on at the one sentence-
I feel like Erin talking about Jaylin essentially blabbering and saying that SHE couldn’t get to really know everybody. I know it’s not exactly word for word what was said…But she was like “I”, like SHE couldn’t. What about the others, Erin?? Maybe she just didn’t like that SHE couldn’t blabber at the moment. I also like how when Erin shared her reasons for going vegan…She mentioned her jobs and careers (teacher and chef), but it seems like the others DIDN’T.
Erin is 31? She acts 19 🤦♀️
Why is it “veganism” is questioned with what restaurants you eat at? There are vegan options in almost every restaurant, especially nowadays. I’ve never understood that. To jump down someone’s throat and question their own diet from such a loosely based question baffles me. Very inappropriate.
So I became vegan for environmental reasons and honestly I still mainly am. I mean of course its horrible what happens in slaughter houses but I eg don't have a problem with wild haunted meat or meat/milk from yk 'happy animals'. Idk I just see the good farmers in my home town (I live in Germany) who actually care about the animals. So to answer your question: yes environmental reasons have kept me vegan for almost 2 years now.😊
Hey! This is cool to hear :) We're so glad that you feel grounded in environmental reasons. Also very cool to have you check out our vid all the way from Germany
it was so painfully obvious that it wasn't brandon like that was such a throw
I'm not vegan and I respect they're choices as long as you don't force it on me
In Australia sour patch kids still vegan.
he said "I said I feel like it was Jaylyn" so then why did he vote for Brandon? hmm...pack mentally...I felt so bad for Brandon. I am vegan (was vegetarian) now but for a while I was so scared to join the community purely due to the fear of:
1. being attacked for not being vegan enough
2. having the stereotype that followed me around of being an overbearing vegan by association
erin is literally the real life embodiment of fucking rachel berry lmao
This is my first video from y’all and I already love you guys, I’ve always seen the toxic gatekeeper vegans or the ones that try to force others to be vegan and seeing you guys defend Brandon and others who were wearing things that the others judged for made me really happy.
The girl on the left reminds me of Anne Hatheway!
yesss mix of her and kaia gerber !!
“I don’t think you can really see a vegan”
Me: I’m gonna pretend I didn’t see Erin.
I've been vegan for 5 years now, vegetarian for 15 before that and I still occasionally eat something that isn't vegan that I swore I checked the label on but I missed something.
Totally valid. I know this comment is 2 years old, but I know someone who is vegan who didn't know that McDonald's fries are not vegan! It's easy to assume fries are always vegan too, so honest mistakes do happen, even to vegans who have been vegan for years.
hi!! i just came across your video. you guys seem super genuine and kind. i’ve been vegetarian for almost 2 years mainly due to animal cruelty. i hope to become vegan in the future when i’m financially independent and live in an area where there are more vegan options ^-^ in the meantime, i’m really interested in hearing your opinions and watching your videos to know more!!
Misha! Your comment absolutely made our day. We really believe in the power of kindness so we're glad it came across to you in this vid. We're stoked to hear that you're veggie and hope we can support you in going vegan when that becomes more accessible to you
Samee
Hi! Sour patch kids actually are vegan! They used to not be, but not they are in most countries (including the country Jubilee is in).
I used to enjoy taco bell customized as vegan, but the last 3 times I’ve gone to 3 different locations they have all messed up my orders in some way. Either they forget the beans for some reason, they forget a part of my combo or they still put cheese or meat on something. Also they stopped replacing cheese with pico and started just using tomatoes. Idk why but standards dropped where I’m from. I don’t think I’ll trust them even if they get vegan meat.
Because I kept having those poor experiences at taco bell I tried a local Mexican fast food restaurant and ordered one of their vegan burritos and I bit into it and there was a huge layer of cheese in it. Lol
I don’t trust buying any fast food anymore. I try to just make all my food at home. I wish we had 100% vegan fast food restaurants where I live.
Oooooff, that's the worst! We've definitely had a couple mishaps and Marley carries Lactaid on her in case things go awry. Eating at home rules though - saves you money and is usually healthier :) But if you ever make it to Toronto there are a couple AMAZING vegan Mexican spots here.
@@VeganYums Good to know! I’m from Washington state. We don’t have many reliable vegan locations where I’m from. We have one vegan restaurant I would recommend called Quickie Too if you ever visit!
@@bradleybruvva3021 just googled it! Looks absolutely delish AND Black-owned/women-owned which we love to support! Hopefully when the world is more healed we can all visit some new spots.
@@VeganYums I agree! Toronto sounds like fun! 🤩
Order online! They’ve never messed up my order
Omg did you say your beverage was from Bloomers?? I just looked at Toronto and saw that y'all are Toronto homies!! So cool and I freaking love Bloomers!!
Yes!! Hi Toronto friend 🙋🏻♀️🙋🏼♀️ Bloomer’s is amaaaazing 😍
Watch the follow up video on twobilee, they said that Erin was friendly in the breaks and that the intention was for empathy not to encourage cyber bullying. I can understand why people did not like her but no one deserves that much hate even if it is a joke.
We’ll be reacting to the follow up ASAP! :) we agree, the backlash she got from this video is extreme
People hate toxicity from people who are condescending.
You came up as suggested and I’ll be watching more. Also, environment turned me & my husband vegan. Me straight after our honeymoon (ironically flew halfway across the world for it) in NZ where I saw how much Franz Josef Glacier had receded, and him around 4 months later for a combination of health, environment and animal welfare. Have stayed vegan because of all three, but environmental is still my main reason. I have a polar bear as my screen background, and am currently reading Who Cares Wins by Lily Cole, and my activism in normal times is primarily environmental.
This is very cool to hear Lilly! Thank you for checking us out ☺️
Quick question, hopefully i can get some different aspects on. Why is honey not vegan? I can see that mass produced honey kills bee's by harvesting, but a backyard hive with a docile breed of bee and the right hive box wouldnt impact the bee's. If your saying that having animals produce food for you is exploitive and thats why you consider it non-vegan couldnt you say that all plants ( the majority ) that require pollenation and matainence for their ecosystem by living creatures is being exploitive to living creatures and therefore makes all of your plant based food non-vegan?
As an ex-beekeeper, I can weigh in a bit.
Honey is in a weird place for vegans because it is an animal product, but one that is normally overproduced and is safe to remove excess. Bees are also nigh on impossible to contain if they decide the environment is bad, since they can just form a swarm and leave.
A stationary beehive will naturally produce more honey than it can consume, which can lead to parasites, hive splitting(when a hive splits in two and half fly off, which can kill one or both groups if badly timed), and hive rotting. So a local beekeeper can safely harvest a lot of honey from a hive and it still be safe, ethical, and sustainable.
The big issue is commercial beekeepers, who truck hives down the highway at 70mph to places in season for pollination and have much larger losses due to constant environmental shifts and frequent harvesting. Those are both stressful on bees, so they have much higher death rates.
Most vegans I know seem to say local honey is okay, but mass produced is iffy. Some, of course, are much more strict.
i've been vegan for almost five years but i feel like if i was there with the way erin was pushing and questioning everyone i would have looked suspicious and got voted out lol. i don't always buy the exact same soap (but i do try to google a product before i buy it if i'm trying something new to make sure it's vegan and cruelty free) and i thought sour patch kids were vegan too. also, even though i know i watched some documentaries early on i have an awful memory and can't really remember the names of any of them. and i really don't think someone necessarily has to have watched any documentaries to learn about how bad the meat, dairy, and egg industries are and want to go vegan.
I recently switched over to vegan, I mess up here and there especially when my bf eats meat every meal, and my family are all meat eaters and feeders haha
But I'm so proud of how far I've gotten, I'm definitely trying my best and the results have been so amazing on not only my body, but also my mental health as well. Going to try to stick to it fully, and even encorporate gluten free into my diet as well!
You’re doing awesome!!! Thanks for watching and commenting 💖
Jubilee has a series “Do All ______ Think the Same.” They did one with Jubilee’s own employees. In it they got asked about censoring comments, and that led to a discussion on Erin (there were threats and doxing). In their discussion, they said they felt Erin’s actions were justified because it was a competition, but, if anything, they intentionally edited that video to make Erin look less bad.
Idk why yall sussed out my girl Elizabeth when she was the only one right about the identity of the real impostor 👀
😂😂😂😂 we were so wrong
Erin. Yes, she got a lot of backlash from this. She was brutal.
im just so happy erin didnt win, its the most satisfying thing
I am a little bit late to the conversation 😂 but still I think the most important thing when trying to go vegan/vegetarian is to try your best and to think not only about the well-being of animals, but the planet and the overall health of the population as well ( it could get better with a more plant-based diet), and vegans/vegetarian can motivate that by setting-up a example that its not about perfection or being 100% vegan, but trying your best to lessen the amount of animals products that you consume
wait i just have a question, do you guys see people who display the animal cruelty ( to show like "hey this is what's happening, we need to change") as activists? Personally i never saw it that way because yes the non vegans would feel bad, but i dont think its a good way to educate... Im just curious on maybe your guy's takes :D
Hey! This is a great question. For us, we totally respect the work animal activists who expose the violence of animal exploitation and graphic images have helped us always remember why we're vegan. We think that different people are motivated by different methods of activism though and on our own platforms don't use graphic imagery, but try to prompt people to question the exploitation of animals through other means :)
I know you didn't ask me, but for me personally, that sort of footage is the main reason I went vegan in the first place! My conclusion was that if I couldn't stand to watch it, I shouldn't pay for it to happen. Also, most of my non-vegan friends/family didn't believe me when I've simply told them the state of things in the industry, however them watching the footage has definitely contributed to them eating less animal products. Just my experience. :)
@@MariaT-95 that’s totally understandable, idk I always thought it was just morally invasive for the animals. I always thought showing graphic videos of someone’s (in this case the animal’s) death is kinda bizarre.
People are vegan for many reasons, so idk, but haha I was always curious on what others thought!
@@VeganYums that’s a good way to think about it! I always thought it was bizarre to show graphic videos of slaughter and murder (of anyone of any animal) but seeing if from other points of views, apparently it what prompted veganism! So it must be effective in a way.
I’m 16 and have been vegan for only 5 years, so I’m trying to figure out all sorts of ways people can advocate for animals. (I’ve only been to one convention and only tabled once, but I definitely wanna attend more events when covid gets better!)
@@RekoTeaHang on...*only* 5 years?! don't sell yourself short! That's a significant amount of time, especially considering your age. Great work!
is it true that sour patch kids have gelatin now? i feel like i checked the ingredients not long ago and it wasnt listed and i dont see any recent posts about it being added, unless i didnt look hard enough i guess haha
I would honestly tell everybody to vote out Erin first just so she couldnt get the money.
Great video!
Thank you! 🥰
As a 16 year old athlete (Track and Football/Soccer) and aspiring holistic nutritionist I've tried being a Vegan for over a month. It was great for about 2 weeks in, I would get an immense pump before doing my workouts and energized in the beginning of each day. After the month passed by I suddenly hit plateau, I was getting a bit slower in my sprints and almost got a muscle strain in my right calf. I wasn't treating this as a challenge but as a tryout, and I came to the conclusion that my body needs some of the nutrients of some animal based products, all of which I now buy from my local homestead farmer.
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Unrelated to the video but: I got Unus Annus flashbacks from the timer ticking at the end of each round
I wish I could be vegan or vegetarian so much 😅 I was only able to for less than a week before I started struggling with my health and now I have a really strict food schedule because of my health issues. I loved it though, before it went to shit I felt motivated and was super excited.
Sending you all the good vibes
Like for real, although I've been vegetarian for years (I try to not consume goods that animals died for directly, so I avoid gelatine and such) I would still buy leather shoes, because getting fair trade vegan leather which is comparable to the quality is just too expensive for me rn. 🤷🏻♀️
Imagine if Erin was the meat eater this whole time
Nice video, the only thing I gotta say though is if you are going to go vegan, or switch diet in a more radical way. be it Keto, vegan or anything. You gotta do your research cause vegans need the same nutrients as everyone else. but it will be harder to get em, or even consider suplements etc.
Absolutely! Obviously having been vegan for a few years we find it easy but this is an important reminder for folks in transition to make sure they’re getting what they need. We talk about what supplements we take in some of our other vids 😊 thank you for watching and for your comment 💖
Yep. When I switched to keto, I had to take a couple supplements that I wasn't getting as much of. I know a lot of people on diet restrictions forget to do that, so end up feeling like crap and giving up.
I am 33 and I am a omnivore and I have never had any health issues. I don't smoke, I never get drunk, I basically never drink carbonated drinks, I also drink like 3.5 liter of water per day. I have never been rude to a vegan in my life but they tend to attack me just because I love my meat.
20:34 I dont think it had anything to do with the editing, she just spent majority of the time grilling him. Probably wouldn't be much footage if they edited out any of her parts of the video.
Oh I remember that Jubilee Video! At least we got a meme out of it 🤣
Hello! I just wanted to ask where you got the world map in the back ground from? It's very nice :)
Thank you! It’s actually Taylor’s Landlord’s map, But I think it’s thrifted / found at an antique store. It used to belong to a school :)
@@VeganYums Ok, thank you!
I don't understand why more people are not watching this channel. UA-cam algorithm is broken !!!!!
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Great video! I'm excited to check out the rest of your videos. I'm vegetarian but I like to eat vegan too. My goal is to go vegan some day :).
Thank you so much for watching Alaina! Awesome to hear you're veg and hope we can support you in any vegan endeavors
@@VeganYums Aw thank you!
Im not vegan but I gotta say, those beyond meat burgers are great just expensive. Gotta get em when I can😂
'favorite candy' is a good question because you really need to research which ones are vegan. Or 'favorite instant noodle'
Favourite instant noodle is a quality question!
I struggled for a while of what to do with my animal product clothes and shoes. I do animal activism outreach so I just can’t wear them anymore (but I get why people still do) anything really but throw them out! I am going to get my stuff out of the depths of my closet, sell them and donate the money to an animal sanctuary I think? Still kind of weird haha I don’t know if there is a right answer lol
That sounds like a brilliant solution!
This was the original among us
LMAO so trueee
If I was vegan and surrounded by people like Erin I would not be able to be vegan for long
sour patch kids are vegan yall
I wish I had Taco Bell in my country 😭😭😭😭
Am glad Vegans and Non-Vegans agree Erin has a rude attitude. Good she didn’t win lol
Omg, your a Cora Shirchel doppelganger!
Erin, aside from not alas wearing a wristwatch, is an outstanding representative of us vegans. She does not put up with any nonsense.
Amazing video!!!!!
Thank you! 🥰