2024 C8 Changes - Might not be what you Expected - Corvette Stingray
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- Опубліковано 22 гру 2023
- These are my opinions on some of the changes that GM made or did not make.
By no means am I saying I do not like the car but just sharing where I feel there is room for improvement.
Let us know in the comments how you feel about these changes or lack there of.
Thank you for watching.
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People want their cake and eat it too…they want Porsche quality but pay Chevy prices. If Chevy charged an extra $10k and fixed all the issues, ppl would still complain and want more.
Actually GM did charge the extra amount to provide some of these features with their 2LT trim. But with Porsche you pay for the name more than the feature
With Chevy you should be paying more for the feature than the name
@@JayJafar ..good point..this is why it’s hard to get a stripped down LT1.
I’ve had 2 911s and now I have a C8 HTC. I have put on 26000km with zero issues, none. My Porsches were never this perfect. I will buy a 992 soon, but I will keep this amazing C8
Super glad I watched this. I didn’t realize PDR was now available at the 1LT trim level. Just called the dealer to have my order updated!
That's awesome, Glad the video helped. Congrats on your upcoming new vehicle and I hope you enjoy it and love it just as much as I do. Even though the video may sound like I do not like it but in reality I would buy this car even if given an option again.
The "no touch" trunk closure only works for the coupe due to the deck lid being larger and heavier. It does not; however, work every time, you have to give it a bit of a shove. For the HTC, you still have to give the deck lid the extra push. Also, the HTC deck lid does not have an inside pull. On the other hand, they are just cars. I can handle some finger prints, I also keep a microfiber towel behind the seat.
That makes sense but aren’t the rear hood struts also heavier to counter the weight effect?
Also I use my knuckles to close the frunk haha you may have noticed in the video too…. Just to mitigate finger prints lol
The front trunk "auto" closing feature works differently from the rear trunk "auto" feature. The reason is most owners that buy the optional battery maintainer (from CTEK). leave the maintainer in the bottom of the front trunk, these people (me) want the front trunk lid to stay cracked open for about an inch so the AC power cord can exit the front trunk to be connected to 110 VAC external power.
Yes, a lot of people pointed that out and I agree with the reasoning. Could there have been a way around it? Yes, like most modern cars have auto trunk close and when they feel resistance they back out. But that might have been asking too much from a performance car & GM lol. Nevertheless I learned the reasoning after posting this video and reading the comments
My battery tender on my c8 is routed out by the a pillar on the passenger side..there is a perfect opening to run the wires and close the frunk and out the car cover on as well…I would never run it out the front of the frunk…
Great informative vid!
Thank you 😊
Hello Jay. Good video. Can I ask what editing software you used for this? I would appreciate it. Thanks.
Thank you Dan, I am very new to all this. I use Davinci Resolve (Free Version) I yet have to hit a dead end where the free version is the reason.
P.S. For Shorts I use VN on my phone or iPad (Free again). I hope that helps
@@JayJafar That helps. Thanks!
I just got my 24’ Z06 in Carbon flash metallic, love the color, your 100% correct on wheels , I Don’t Like ANY Wheel Choice
Congratulations on the Z06, I do like the Z06 Wheels offerings though. and they made it 20" and 21" which look great even on the Stingray.
Nevertheless, be safe and make some noise with that wonderful sounding beast.
Valid complaints since most of the parts to fix the problems are already in GMs inventory. GM always seems to be half-stepping when it comes to their products. Look how long people complained about the seats in the Corvette when the CTS-V had better supportive seats than the Corvettes of the same era.
The CTS-V is their luxury sports offering to compete against german offerings in the same class
Corvette being more sports focused is probably why. But I do agree with you GM can improve it at the same price level but they don’t
What mount are you using for the camera?
I use a PellKing brand single suction cup for the interior shots using my phone and a PellKing 5 suction cup mount for the GTA shot using an insta 360 x3 …. I hope that helps
So if you had the battery tender attached what would stop it from chopping the wires and causing a fire?
Same thing stopping it on my 2023 HTC, don’t push it down to the second click. That is probably why they require it.
You make a fair point Kaneo1994, But then why give a soft close at all? I am not disregarding what you mentioned, I just think now the soft close is more of a gimmick than something actually bringing value
The fact that you even brought that up to complain about is sad. Who cares man are you really buying this for the soft close frunk. Every point in the video seemed so bitchy except for the wirless charging
If you direct or feed the charger and its wire to the front windshield where the wiper is and not at the frunk lip you’ll avoid any issue of wire fracture. I do that and sit the charger on top of a microfibre cloth.
@@masonbuck3210 , The fact that you brought this up to complain about is sad.
Thanks, I enjoyed it
Glad to hear it, thanks for watching
Next videos would be more positive 😁
Do the ‘24s have dynamic cruise control?
Unfortunately No, they added forward collision warning, automatic emergency braking, lane departure warning, and lane keeping assist but no adaptive cruise which I would have definitely valued a lot
You don't want DCC in a sports car, trust me on this...the invasive nature of such combined with the extra capabilities of your vehicle could end up killing you! I drove professionally for over 30 years and experienced what DCC could do for the last 5. It has a place- but not here.
Good video. I am glad they are giving the rear view digital camera to the 1LT (non-convertible). I have a ‘23 C8 Z51 2LT and when I heard they had a soft close frunk, I was a little sad. Seeing your video, it doesn’t seem worth the wait, though I have to perform CPR to get the frunk closed.
LOL @ CPR
It is an amazing car nevertheless I hope you are enjoying yours just as much as I am.
ALL great items to discuss. The Corvette 2024 LT3 I looked at in s showroom, showed me that several dash control items were just not good. For example, the Stalk controls on the Steering column. Down right cheap plastic for a $100K Car. Esp. with the LT3 upgrade.
And if you spec a upper end Z06 you end up at 160+ before markups and still get the same dash and controls
What I dont like about the controls is the volume up and down so out dated and unnecessarily large and inconveniently placed
Right On Jay. @@JayJafar
I was always under the understanding that the double click design of the frunk was to allow for a battery tender cable. If it was straight soft close without the double click wouldn't that erase that function.
Exactly. It's a non issue. Anyone worrying about finger prints on the hood, is just being a knob...
I agree with your reasoning. But, my point is just that why give a soft close at all?
Doesnt make it any more convenient than not having it
I am with you on that, I dont care about prints but some people do.
@@JayJafar I mean, to me It seems nicer and more premium than slamming it shut....
@@JayJafar My 2021 didnt have soft close and I can tell you that the second click wasn't the luxury sport hey were aiming for lol. I'm sure they could design it better. I'm sure mercedes would have.
Issues and complains aside. Simply love how you specd the car. Cant wait for an upgrade on rims.. the car would look lit
Before the summer ;)
I put HRE’s on my C8, it looks amazing. @@JayJafar
I'm shocked the frunk soft close feature on the 24 is not the same as the trunk soft close. That was one feature I was really tempted to wait for the 24. I'm glad I just got my 23 in April instead of waiting for the 24. Great video, definitely agree on the perspective shown.
The soft close was also a major reason I asked my dealer I am willing to move behind on the allocation so that I can get the 2024. My biggest shock was the car not having adaptive cruise control though, they put all the tech like censors for vehicle detection, auto braking etc. but still no Adaptive cruise.
I just purchased a c8 2024 cacti green. I think what’s crazy about this video your driving around my hometown in OH. I’m trying to focus on the car but I was so hard with everything looking familiar. Thank you for the video
No way, thats awesome!!! We should get together someday!! Congrats on your new c8 be safe!!
What about the seats, are you comfortable, gt1 ?
Yes mine are gt1, they are comfortable for me
Ive done a 3 hour drive in one go and have spent over 8 hours in the car in one day, no fatigue no soreness.
Keep in mind the bolster adjustments and lumbar support adjustments come with a 2LT and above
For reference I am 5’11” 200 Lbs
Im 6 foot , 270 😬 , i think for me would be the gt1 , better choice. And also more room in a c8 convertible?
I have one of the first Stingray built in 05/2022
I agree about the location of the phone charger needs to be in front where the driver can get it easier
Did you mean 2020? The car then would have been a great escape from the Covid stay at home era of the time haha
I just done even use the wireless charging I keep a cable in the armrest for when needed which is only on longer trips
Great job
Thank you :)
Nice, 👌🏻
Thank you ❤️
*How are these "floating camera" rear views recorded???*
You have to use a 360 camera, I use insta360. The software deletes the stick it is attached on to give the "floating Camera" look. I hope that helps
@@JayJafar Yes! ... Thanks ... I was really trying to figure this one out! ... LOL
What exactly is a "chnage"?
Lmao, there was another typo too, so kind of you to not mention that one 😂. I am too new to editing, got overwhelmed I guess so forgot to review spellings
How tall are you brother ? Just wondering if ill fit in one
Im 5’11…. I think if you are 6’3 and under it wouldnt be a problem
How about for big dudes? I'm 5"11, 280lbs.
@@88Petry Go for it, wouldn't hurt to check your local dealership if they have one on the lot to try it. My cuzn who is 320 6' drives my car here and there and never complained.
All trims should have the blind spot monitors, front and rear cameras, and the option for the video on the rear view(glad they added that). Front soft close is pointless or bad design because of that battery cable for sure.
Biggest problem lies between the steering and the seat. Showing off skidding so close to incoming traffic is brilliant!!!!!
The subtle insult, ouch!! Traction Control was on and I floored it once the car was straight.
I appreciate your concern for others but, trust me I do care for others and my own safety too. Even if the video may have suggested you otherwise.
The most interesting point you made in this video is the function of the frunk “Self” close feature. No other 2024 C8 video I have seen (Until now) has explained this. Very disappointing. Please keep us posted with more of your C8 videos. I am now a subscriber and should have my C8 by 5/2024, as I left my deposit 1/2023. Drive safe.
Thank you Illiya, means a lot
I would definitely be uploading more
Just weather permitting as I live around the NE snow belt
Is this going to be your first corvette? This is my first… and I have Zero regrets
@@JayJafar Yes, my first Corvette. Except for the C2, they never appealed to me before. But now with the mid-engine design, it is a world class car. Great to hear you have “No regrets”. I decided on the Coupe also, and it is coming pretty highly optioned. I am in the Chicago area. Drive safe.
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@@roybadrill4310 That’s easy for you to say.
Thinking more about the frunk’s self close feature - perhaps it is this way so that when charging the battery with the cord coming out of the frunk, it will not get pinched.
As soon as I saw the 2020, first thing that jumped to my attention was the location of the phone charger and the center stack. Obvious design flaws. These glaring flaws had me concerned about out design/quality control issues. for those reasons my attention moved over to the lexus LC 500
LC 500 is such a underrated sports car but its not without a significant price tag. Congrats on the purchase.
The overall ownership cost of Lexus is usually significantly less based on my own research. I am in the market for I250 as my daily.
I am happy with the build quality on my 2024 C8 though.
waiting for my 3LT Z51 next month.. cant wait...btw... we can see your plate still... :(
I know how the wait feels but it will be worth it. @plate, Haha.. Im just bad at editing I guess, its okay I don’t really know the consequences as my video isn’t even real they are sped up 😝😉
That soft close feature is the exact same thing you do for the trunk Brodie… don’t get what’s the confusion or disappointment
I demonstrated how the frunk and trunk differ. Is mine broken then? Lol
Regardless of what people pay, they want a quality product.
No rear camera on the convertible
@inpreesme The rear camera has always been standard on the HTC (even 1LT) since 2020. now for 2024 its also standard on the 1LT Coupe
I'll keep my C5. Zero tech, all powertrain.
Great video, Jay. I agree. Absolutely, GM has dropped the ball on upgrading the "basic" safety features in a car at this price point. Yes, it's a sports car, but will it hurt to add safety features that even every subaru model offers? Are the consumers asking too much ? How much does it really cost to add side mirror sensors or a warning beep for front and rear while parking ? If GM is charging $ 2595 for a front axel lift, then why not add those features with this package? I drove a c8 convert yesterday, and the front parking camera view is horrendous. I almost hit the car in the front while parking it back on the lot. I loved the car, but i plan on "using" it as much as possible, and these "minor" issues are a real pain in the butt. Especially if every other car in my driveway has those basic features. Once you're used to these features, it's hard to go back, and one tends to take them for granted in every car. My Ford Tremor has a far superior front camera. I would love to buy the car but need a solution for the front camera view. Is there any information on how to fix or upgrade to an aftermarket camera?
That is exactly how I feel, if you get the 2LT & above trim you do get rear parking sensors which do work well and also you get blind spot monitoring.
The front camera is useful but surely does not belong on a $85K+ car its very out dated
No solutions I have heard of for the front camera
I know how one gets used to the technology its like using a new phone then going back to the old phones. My other car is a Tesla so I really feel the lack of tech in the C8
Spot on! I will differ to the Cadillac CT5V Blackwing.
I’ll just wait for 2029 c8
Rear view camera is a must on a C8.
Lane keep assist, adaptive cruise control and other nannys no thanks, just more stuff to go wrong.
Thankfully no stop start, most Corvette owners do not ever want this on thier vehicles.
Love my 23 coupe 2LT w/Z51.
I agree with you on that, but if they were going to offer it one expects it to be close to the competition
Start/stop, haha spot on!! +1 to GM for that otherwise to reduce emissions they could have gone that route and I would have hated it too
Just to add, I love my corvette too would buy it again if I had to. Just hating the weather here with 12 inches of snow
The phone charger will not work if you have a protective case on your phone, which everybody has a case
I use a thinner case on an iphone
It does work if I actually have to use it ever
I can imagine larger cases it wont even fit let alone charge
@JayJafar I have a thin case but then I have a finger ring on the back. Bottom line replacement sucks and I filled mine with concrete
I did not know it snows in Mexico! 🤣🤣
Be careful with cold tires.
Snow?? Its white sand from the beaches you see 😂🤣
@@JayJafar Enjoy the sand - LOL !!!!!
Even though the layman might not be able to differentiate between corvette models….I’m betting they cant tell the difference between Porsche 911 models as well…the value is for those of who actually buy the cars and know the differences….
True, and I think if you are used to the conveniences of other modern cars then you feel the lack of it in the c8… it is otherwise an amazing car in my opinion
I own one and I not disappointing and I own Audi Honda and fords and a Mercedes and I knew when I bought this car it wasn’t to be confortable .This car is only to chill and if you don’t have the money to keep up after the guaranty expire this car is not for you
My personal opinion is that Chevy corporate should do what they said they would do and cut the allocations and or deliveries to any dealer that would gouge buyers. It's pathetic that dealers would use this car as a way to scam the buyer. I found a dealer in IL. ( Leach Wilson) that is willing to sell the car at MSRP. Aaron and the sales group there is just extremely helpful.
The problem they're having is getting the allocation? So as usual you have the dealers that are gouging the buyer getting the allocations, and the dealers that are looking out for the buyer getting snubbed.
Chevy stand by your word get the cars out to dealers that will work with the buyers. I understand that it is all about sales. The question is can't all the dealers that have buyers waiting get an allocation? I'm sure the sales of the car will be as strong and the people that have been waiting will be happy with Chevy. WOW what a great sales and corporate boost. The little guy who WANTS the car getting it.. Instead of the greedy self serving dealers getting the cars to the people that have the time and extra thousands to spend.
Trust me I'm looking for a fully loaded Z07. I'm not looking for a baseline car, as I'm 65 and want to enjoy something I've waited my whole life for.
C'MON CHEVY GET THE CAR OUT TO ALL THE DEALERS NOT JUST THE SELECT FEW EAST COAST AND OR GOUGING DEALERS. Get some allocations out to the smaller and mid range dealers as well.
GM sent out letters to dealers that they are not charge market adjustments that was just for "show" to customers as dealers still did and GM did nothing.
Even to this day all dealers are over charging for the Z06 while some continue to do the same on the stingray.
I did get mine on MSRP but had to wait 11 months
I hate lane keep assist on any car…
I hated it when they first came out but now I just prefer a car with one for highway driving
I don’t know who edits your video but you should spell check the description better of each section of the video .
Noted, I realized it after…. New to video editing got overwhelmed by everything else that I didnt catch the “Chnages” & “Phones”
Thank you for your feedback :)
The 2024 C8 LT1 is, in my opinion, one of the most incredible values imaginable. It performs in a class with cars costing many times more than its mid 70k price tag. Its performance capabilities far surpass most of its owners driving abilities. I'm sorry but I find your criticisms, for the most part, petty. Fingerprints on the hood? Give me a break.
I am with you 100%, my whole point was GM heard what the customers wanted hence added the soft close, but it did not really change the original complaint.
But you are correct, the car overall is a far better value than anything else on the market, looks, performance and tech everything is way beyond the price point. My whole point was the "Changes" was not talking about the overall car. Hence the "petty" criticism
I don’t care
I love my c8
So do I, I would buy the same car again if I had the same budget just add Mag Ride
You really don’t know what changed with the frunk?!? Have you ever used a 2023 or earlier? You have to put your entire body weight down on the frunk to get it to click closed. Now you don’t.
I didnt own an earlier model but I have used the frunk on one. Maybe I am too fat that I didnt have to do CPR on the frunk lol
Owned a c5z, c6z, c6zr1, c7z, c7zr1 and now the c8z51...please allow me to explain, this c8 is LIGHT YEARS ahead of the previous models. Light years. Interior, transmission, power to the ground etc etc etc. You would sue Chevy if you owned a c5 and your complaining about these things on a c8. You need to view this car as a continuation of the previous model, the c7. If you compare it to that you will think this car is what it is, a homerun.
I was in the market for a gt350 but went with the corvette and dont regret it all. Disappointed on few minor things? Yes, but by all means I truly love the car.
Those slips though 😅😅😅❤❤❤
Traction was on though, Thank you for watching
This video comes across as a little bit of a whiny whiny video. I have a 2024. I’m just hoping that the major components don’t take a shit because I didn’t fall for their extended warranty so your concern really aren’t very important. GM will never address them.
What GM needs to change to make this car world class!
• Redesign the interior and get rid of the tablet display and the HVAC small buttons on the rail to the right of the driver! This gimic just shows GM has no design talent and have to use a gimmick to make it something new!!!
• The entire digital display could be better! Look, at what Porsche does! Keep the analog gauges even if represented in digital format!!!
Imagine not having that wall of buttons and truly taking advantage of a rear engine with no drive shaft going going through the center.
Known fact is that they reverse engineered a 458 but they didn't take cue from it in the interior.
I agree on the term "world class" is what GM could have achieved
The row of buttons doesn’t bother me in fact I think is cool. Your nit picking the interior. The C8 interior is leaps and bounds better than all the other generations before.
@@craigthescott5074 Yes. It is certainly better than the C7 and prior. However, it could have been so much better.
Search YT for the Lamborghini Technica introduction video by Lamborghini and see how they executed the design and build of that car! Nothing goofy, no gimmicks just pure clean design and everything is logically placed and easy to use. And if you sat in the car and actually felt the materials and the switches, you'd know that this is first class all the way! No, GM did well but they fell significantly short of what the C8 could have been!
@@craigthescott5074 No doubt performance per dollar is right up there but I worry about the build quality.
I think if I were to go the C8 Z06 route, I'd just buy a low mileage Lamborghini Gallardo and have twin turbos put on it. The C8 Z06 won't be a match as the Gallardo will have way more HP and have AWD! Yes, it is a bit older but the build quality of the old Gallardo still exceeds the new cars built by GM! As much as I want to buy American, this fact is still difficult to overcome!
@@LWRC ok so there’s a $200K difference between a Corvette and a Lamborghini so yea I would expect it to have a nicer interior.
It doesn't close all the way in case there are dumb ...aces that put their fingers there ... lol..
😂
The entire video I asked myself why are you standing in a puddle when the dry pavement is 10 feet over.
HAHA Hilarious, You're funny!! 🤣
didnt think much of it, but in that moment I probably left some space for trucks to pull in if needed as I am parked behind a building which has shipping docks there
1) Worrying about fingerprints on the frunk? This only impacts the owners that just want garage queens, where they will have the car for 3 years and put 700 miles on it because all they do is polish it and look at it, or park it at a car meet and sit on a lawn chair looking at it. The soft close works just fine. It get fingerprints, and if you drive it, its gonna get rock chips and door dings in parking lots and at some point a crack in the windshield from a rock... It's a car, that's how it works... I have had mine a month and have 2,100+ miles on it and already have a small chip in the PPF on the front. Is what it is... I don't even worry about it...
2) Putting "in Mexico" as some sort of disclaimer, like its gonna protect you legally if law enforcement were to try and use your video against you as evidence of speeding or reckless driving... yeah, no. Not gonna work. They can read the road signs and tell exactly where you were. haha
3) Never use Lane assist, I usually turn that off. Don't need it beeping at me if I am in the mtns and cut the inside left corner a bit and go over the line a tad...
4) Agree with the cell phone holder. It's really awkward to get to unless you are a contortionist. The seat locks you in nice and tight, and twisting 180 degrees to get to your phone is a pain...
Dave,
1) I am like you I dont care much about the prints but was sharing as others complained about it. I have about 2500 miles in 2 months but I live in NE ohio. Avoiding snow and salt but still driving
2) haha the Mexico was just as a joke, but these videos are just for entertainment (could be sped up too?) lol 😉
3) I use the lane keep a lot, but not during a spirited run just on highways and my other car is a Tesla (non FSD) so I really feel the difference
4) I have yet to find someone who actually uses the wireless charger and they use aftermarket holders next to the infotainment screen
I appreciate you sharing your thoughts and thanks for watching
Winger, sell it and buy something else
With all the ridiculous mark up’s on this over hyped car. I’d probably buy a cayman gts.. with a good ol’ manual transmission.
Markups are a thing of the past as far as I know. Follow some forums or fb groups, I see new C8s on the floor asking under MSRP pop up here and there
@@JayJafar actually there Alive and well. Everywhere I’ve looked. And these aren’t even Zo6’s models.
Not Ferrari or McLaren have a better optioned car on the market in the performance range, and certainly not Porsche. Have you looked at what a base 992 911 gives you in interior options? The chassis ALONE is a better neutral handling car THAN any Carbon tub McLaren on track. GM has luxury cars that make you go to sleep as well, but this is a sports car and fiddling with your phone while driving a high horsepower anything is risky business.
I can not agree more with you here, the C8 is an amazing value for money. I love the car overall, but I extended my wait in order to get the 2024 because I did value the changes. Now in my opinion the changes were not worth the wait but in the end I am a pleased with the car. Stay tuned for more positive videos. I just had to get this one video topic off my chest 😂 Thank you for watching 🙂
Better optioned??!!! Look at the design and engineering - Porsche is light years ahead. Who at GM gave the green light for the interior especially the instrumentation??!!! Was it Mary??!!!
@@LWRC You literally are unaware of what the C8 series ACTUALLY is. The chassis is FAR beyond what Porsche is giving the public with either 718 or 911 models in this generation.
@@thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal2921 When it comes to engineering expertise, Porsche still beats GM!!!
When the C8 was in development, GM bought a Porache 911 Twin Turbo and took it apart to benchmark. When was the last time Porsche bought any GM product to benchmark??!!!
Look up constructor's wins in the 24 Hrs of LeMans and see Porsche at No 1 with 19 wins and Audi at No 2 with 13 wins! GM never won a single time as a constructor!!!!
What do you expect? It’s a Chevy
Is your name Karen by chance 😂😂
HAHA, NO, I probably sounded like one. I love the car but was just pointing out some changes that I was excited about and waited longer to get the 2024 but didnt meet modern expectations.
Stay tuned for more positive videos. Thank you for watching :)
This guy just like to complain, I wonder if he ever look at the competitors..
I do love the car, but wanted to cover the changes.
Imagine when you hear soft close, lane keep etc etc you in your mind have some base line expectations of such features
I think it’s not only me. But I appreciate you sharing your thoughts
Complaining about nothing!
Right? Some people r just never happy lol
Never said I am unhappy 😊 do read the description
Thanks for the feedback next videos would be more positive
Bet anything its his first Corvette... Everybody is an expert with a camera...lmfao
Useless video, this kid complaining about small candy
Lane keep assist, finger prints, wireless charging? The problem is you! You bought the wrong car. Gm knocked it out of the park on this thing. You need a Lexus or a Tesla. This is a car for people who you know like to drive cars not complain. Wireless charging still laughing about that one.
But pdr is an awesome option especially for track. I don’t have it wish I did.
Can’t agree with you more, except the problem being me part.
The point is that they offered it and customers are paying for it and a “new” offering in 2024 is expected to be technologically new.
I can go on and on why so many people opt for after market solutions for charging in this car.
I think I gave the wrong message here, in reality I absolutely love the car!!
What a whiner
Don't recommend this channel
I haven't had any issues with my c8
It is a fantastic car, no issues with mine either. I was just pointing out how it could be made better in my opinion
Corvettes stopped being a true corvette after the C2 was over, nothing after that really mattered.
Yeah right old man
Yeah, phones are arent the same either, like the one you’re using to watch this video. God I hate innovation.
🤣
I was never so fond of a corvette before the C8
But now I have grown to like C5 and up vettes
You have nothing of value to say except to complain you don't know what you're talking about😮😢😢
Gotcha!!