The nerve of Amber to claim "Johnny won because he's powerful and popular" after 6 years of him being condemned by her lies and struggling for any support until this trial started bringing the truth to light. She must truly believe her own lies at this point.
I think most people understand suing for defamation is a last resort when someone is lying about you. If he was that powerful he wouldn't of needed to do that. And he wouldn't have won if he couldn't prove her allegations damaged his career
My personal favorite moments: 1. The movie expert who didn’t know Robert Patterson was Batman 2. A celebrity expert saying that Amber is one of the most disliked actors, and he had data to back it up. 3. The sass from the TMZ guy 4. That Johnny’s love of lamas was brought up by Amber’s team. 5. The lady lawyer on Johnny’s side giving Amber serious sass when she was on the stand.
I would also like to add the psychologist woman who was with JD. The fact they tried to manipulate a fuckin psychologist and didn't see how that would backfire is beyond me. Like she is literally an expert in that field.
@@TheKatera4a All the expert that amber lawyer who supposedly have 30+ years of experience bring to the court is downright laughable. Bringing those clown against pretty well known heavy hitter lawyer, is suicide.
The Terry Crews case always upset me so much. It doesn't matter how tall, muscular, or masculine you look anyone can be abused, sexually, physically and/or mentally. Humans deserve human rights.
Exactly. Abuse of power seems to be a common factor. Heard thought she could use the power of her gender and the way she expected the media to portray her. Crews was in a situation where someone with power in the industry knew he could take advantage. It is disgusting.
@@wealthybone2990 Yup he admitted to being abused in one of his relationships, alot of people respected his decision to step forward especially as a man. I don't belive it went beyond that but the comment above me said there was a case which is unfortunate if he lost due to his gender and appearance.
this isn't men vs women. this is truth vs lies. victims vs abusers. it's pathetic how she was and still is playing the gender game. ironic really when pretty much everyone, that including women, is on Johnny's size
The fact that Amber Heard is still trying to spin this as a loss for women is insane, she lied and manipulated Johnny and tried to do the same to do the jury. I'm glad that Johnny could win this
Charlie is out of touch and does not know much about Johnny depp. He was borrowing money from banks. Of course he cared about money. Stop supporting a ab user like JD !!!!
the best part of the evidence being open to the public is people could form their own opinion, the media couldn't spin it in Heard's favor despite their best efforts, this is a big step for male victims of abuse when Johnny managed to clear his name
Agreed! Like many have said, no matter how much the media attempts to spin the trial as a "big disadvantage for women" and what other ridiculous headlines they have in store, the truth is visibly there for the people to see, and they cannot make anyone (besides radfems and Heard supporters) believe otherwise.
@@Heneraluha if anything Heard was the one harming women because she’s still trying to be a mouthpiece for abuse victims despite all the evidence against her
As a female survivor of abuse, well done Johnny Depp. The “this will hurt women” narrative is stupid. This will help ALL survivors get listened to. Unless u are someone who makes false accusations against people ans tries to get away with it, u have nothing to fear by amber loosing.
From an ethical point of view, you are right. But that's not the conceptual framework that narrative is couched in. It's not about justice towards individuals, nor compassion, it's about the balance of power between genders. And from that pov, this will hurt women. Power is a zero-sum game, it's purely adversarial. If a man wins, women lose
no, this will hurt women, but in a way that now some men will use this case as justification that women lie and ur normal non billionaire women won't be able to win their own cases. Even now ppl started supporting Shia LaBeouf even tho he himself admitted to abusing his partner. this case only set us back. No one believes women like y'all think they do. Ppl supporting a famous actress doesn't equal ppl believing every woman.
As a man who's survived abuse, I see where you're coming from, but I feel like I've already seen this become weaponized by men to make it look like ALL women are abusers, and several people IN THIS COMMENT SECTION have implied very heavily that women are more abusive than men, or making other harmful implications to ALL survivors of abuse. It's upsetting, and yes it is harmful. Unfortunately a lot of people, especially the more incel type, will use this to prove that all women are evil, which is just an awful stigmatization in the first place, and it hurts everyone equally. No, Johnny didn't deserve to go through what he did, but the weaponization of this is absolutely disgusting.
@@marcodallolio9746 That word salad made absolutely no sense. It sounded like a bad attempt at sounding like you know political philosophy. So far any of you naysayers have failed to demonstrate how it'll affect women.
I felt so bad for Terry Crews when he tried to talk about his own abuse story. he's such a gem and a meme-legend. especially during the old spice commercial times... I hope he's in a better place now than he was. Dude deserves it in my opinion just for all the laughs he gave me over the years.
while the evidence she provided was not great, a lot of the time you can find the most evidence against someone when they are at their worst point in their life because that’s when they’ll usually be making the worst/best decisions
And she wanted to divorce him few days after his mom just passed away and by the way, the video of him ranted out in the kitchen happened after his mom passed away. She was even smiling and laughing on that video! The TMZ's ex employee who shut down Elaine for her "15 minutes of fame comment" confirmed that the video had edited out and it was Amber herself who did that.
You know what's bad for women? A woman making a fake claim. It does make it harder for women to come forward with claims. But it's Amber's fault, hers alone. He is the victim of domestic violence. And he deserves justice
I don't think it is. I think it shows that we need to wait before jumping to conclusions. Innocent until proven guilty, whether it's a man or a woman. I think this is a good moment for male victims and a bad moment for toxic masculinity because now that a manly movie star has shown publicly that he can be abused by a woman, hopefully people will change their perceptions about men. They can cry, they can be abused, they can be sexually assaulted and no, they don't have to man up and take it and hide their emotions and their pain.
I completely agree with you on it makes things harder for women. I have friends who are victims of DV and seeing this whole case was just terrifying for them. Because of her, survivors who come forward must now bare the implications attached to the verdict that women who come forward against powerful men may not only not be believed, but actively punished. Now, survivors will be much more reluctant to come forth about their instances of abuse out of fear of being humiliated and receiving intense backlash. Some, not all, but some men will really take any opportunity to shame a woman and call her a liar. It’s truly horrible.
That’s why I was SOOOOOO into this trial. I was in a very toxic relationship, and towards the end she started to psychologically abuse me pretty bad. Luckily I broke it off before it was able to get too bad. I’m still fucked up by it after all this time. So this trial, I related to it. My heart was RACING leading up to the verdict reading today
@@game-enjoyer13 Glad you got out in time man. My friends dragged me out too thankfully, and I gotta say, as awful as it is in hindsight it was difficult to end things.
As a woman, seeing Amber play the gender card like that infuriates me and is such an insult to actual female victims of abuse. Anyone can be abused, stalked, and harassed, and I hope this helps inspire more male victims to speak up. Abusers come in all shapes and forms and they all need to be called out and stopped.
That's one thing I actually have the fear of. That there's actually so many more male victims out there but they have just never spoken up or tried to. So people still piggyback on the fact that the male victims are statistically low
Plus the fact that the only 'evidence' that wasnt faked or beyond out of context they even had was that text, and its not even _to her._ You'd think thered be one single text, video or recording of him saying those types of things to her if he was that type of person, not...quoting a movie he was in to a friend after he had his life imploded by his abuser
Charlie is out of touch and does not know much about Johnny depp. He was borrowing money from banks. Of course he cared about money. Stop supporting a ab user like JD !!!!
INNOCENT until PROVEN guilty, that’s why defamation is so serious, it ruins your reputation before your case ever gets to court. So happy for Johnny, Amber got what was coming to her
And on top of that you can nevver really 100% recover from defamation. They'll always be some people out there that believe amber herd aka the false accuser.
Johnny was definitely doing drugs, but he openly admitted to that fact. That really helped his case imo, he was honest and admitted his flaws. The fact that Amber tried to make herself innocent and lied about so much RUINED her. There might have been a lot of friction between them, she was an instigator and tried to continue fights when he tried to walk away from those fights. It's great that Amber lost the case, it's actually a step up for male victims of DV, because more often that if a woman even MENTIONS DV then the man gets put in cuffs. There's several cases where men's lives were destroyed because of false claims of DV or SA. I
Some psychologist actually made a video regarding Amber's behavior in court, and mentioned that based on her strange body language, lack of consistency between her upper half facial expression and lower half facial expression, her apparent need to explain things that didnt matter, etc., all were features that commonly appear in people who abuse drugs. I think anyone can ignore that Johnny was on drugs at some point in light of Amber potentially being on drugs through the trial.
I'm very relieved to see that he won, this case really speaks for how male abuse victims are treated and I think this might help overall. Johnny deserved this
The disappointment I feel today is beyond words. I'm heartbroken that the mountain of evidence still was not enough to stand up to the disproportionate power, influence, and sway of my ex-husband. I'm even more disappointed with what this verdict means for other women. It is a setback. It sets back the clock to a time when a woman who spoke up and spoke out could be publicly shamed and humiliated. It sets back the idea that violence against women is to be taken seriously. I believe Johnny's attorneys succeeded in getting the jury to overlook the key issue of Freedom of Speech and ignore evidence that was so conclusive that we won in the UK. I'm sad I lost this case. But I am sadder still that I seem to have lost a right I thought I had as an American - to speak freely and openly.
“Go tell the world that I, Johnny Depp, a man, am a victim of domestic abuse, and see how many people actually believe you.” Well, I guess we and the jury have ultimately proved you wrong, Amber.
Johnny's win is actually a huge victory for ALL victims of domestic abuse, ESPECIALLY men, who often tend to be unfairly positioned by the pro-feminist media in the "bad side of the story". With the influence this man has on people already, he may have just given us a glimpse of hope to slowly begin to eradicate all those monsters that take advantage of their partners in order to use and humiliate them, causing them chronic psychological and mental problems. Thankfully, Mr. Depp may now enjoy his life peacefully, he got his *stolen* dignity back and that's what matters.
That’s the thing with domestic abuse, sure women are the more likely victim but that doesn’t mean men can’t be to. My grand-parents knew someone who was in a similar situation and in the end he divorced her.
Amber Heard Still trying to play the victim and make it all about gender after Johnny Depp fought so hard to win is absolutely disgusting. We love you Johnny!
Let’s be honest. The UK courts found Depp abused her, a US jury has found this article to be defamatory. It’s 1-1 for now, let’s see what happens on appeal.
As a male victim of abuse from a woman. This case was inspiring. i wish I could sue my narcissistic ex for destroying my own reputation. There is still hope for us men. Don’t suffer in silence.
Seen a lot of this and how women can just use feminism and woke to control shit. Watched a highschool bud of mine got accused of rape and his whole future fell apart! Bitch also split my class in half in who was on which side. It wasn't until years later that it was proven that he was innocent and she made shit up. Wish it was made public cause I wanna see that bitch torn to pieces by my class. Fuck feminism.
In a way we should thank Amber. She has proven that it’s not always men who abuse their partners. Hopefully that belief will now progress towards being destigmatized.
I doubt it but I highly agree. It's the same for so many different topics. Rape as an example. If a woman accuses a man that he raped her, many people will believe her. If a man accuses a woman that she raped him, nobody will believe him and they'll even laugh at him. If a woman slaps a man nobody gives a shit. If a man slaps a woman everybody loses their mind.
I've been seeing a lot of women who are survivors of abuse siding with Johnny, and a common thing I would see from them is "the way Amber Heard acts/talks to Johnny/etc reminds me of how my abuser treated me"
lol i’ve seen the same thing said about the way johnny acts. how it reminds them of their abuser. he’s laughing, being condescending, and is on the verge of falling asleep, but amber is the one acting strange? might we all remind you, amber has BPD which is the exact opposite of narcissism. so if your take away from all of this is that amber is a narcissist, that should really tell you where you entire perspective of this trial lies. you guys are such deluded sheep. cant think for yourselves at all.
@@orangejuice4266Depp winning this case is not the thing that could set back real female survivors…Heards false claims are Her false claims could have a negative effect for female survivors as it unfortunately gives abuse disbelievers an example to point to where a woman fabricated DV claims for personal gain and to ruin a man’s reputation However, anyone pointing to this one example as ‘proof’ that every female survivor is lying is just an idiot anyway so… A victim should be supported and deserves their fair justice regardless of gender
The disappointment I feel today is beyond words. I'm heartbroken that the mountain of evidence still was not enough to stand up to the disproportionate power, influence, and sway of my ex-husband. I'm even more disappointed with what this verdict means for other women. It is a setback. It sets back the clock to a time when a woman who spoke up and spoke out could be publicly shamed and humiliated. It sets back the idea that violence against women is to be taken seriously. I believe Johnny's attorneys succeeded in getting the jury to overlook the key issue of Freedom of Speech and ignore evidence that was so conclusive that we won in the UK. I'm sad I lost this case. But I am sadder still that I seem to have lost a right I thought I had as an American - to speak freely and openly.
Between this and Jack Wright coming forward about what Sienna Mae did to him it's so amazing to see the support for male abuse victims, this is hopefully going to be a big turning point on taking the topic seriously and making sure we don't let abusers of any gender get away with it. Congrats Johnny and I hope he's happy in the UK with his mega pint of justice!
Even with all this coverage, people will still believe the woman. They are lucky they’re famous or they would be locked up and life ruined. It’s a sad JS we have here
@Syrasmine ye nah how you gonna compare the male to female false accusations like its even close in number especially then when its ones who get their loves ruined because of it it is a gender issue because men have to deal with it and the odd few of women do aswell sure that doesnt stop it from being a gender issue tho
@Syrasmine Not a hot take. It is definitely a gender issue, and women are not as frequently falsely accused of sex crimes (I have no stats for this but it's essentially a given).
The disappointment I feel today is beyond words. I'm heartbroken that the mountain of evidence still was not enough to stand up to the disproportionate power, influence, and sway of my ex-husband. I'm even more disappointed with what this verdict means for other women. It is a setback. It sets back the clock to a time when a woman who spoke up and spoke out could be publicly shamed and humiliated. It sets back the idea that violence against women is to be taken seriously. I believe Johnny's attorneys succeeded in getting the jury to overlook the key issue of Freedom of Speech and ignore evidence that was so conclusive that we won in the UK. I'm sad I lost this case. But I am sadder still that I seem to have lost a right I thought I had as an American - to speak freely and openly.
7:22 I just looked up that part about Dr. Phil because I wanted to see how bad it was. Jesus, that was hard to sit through. From what was shown in the clip, it seems the woman repeatedly attacked and hurt the man, and when he inevitably snapped and took a swing at her, he was publicly humiliated by Dr. Phil and was told that he's a "chicken shit coward" among other things. It was genuinely painful and sad to watch, I hope he's doing better now.
dr phil is an unhelpful narcissistic piece of shit like seriously has anyone who went on his garbage show went on to have better lives because of his "advice"
I’m glad you brought up how bad the whole “they were both abusers, just as awful as each other” take is. I feel like that sort of thinking is still rooted in the idea that men cannot just be victims and that they obviously must have done something horrible too in order to invite abuse onto themselves. Like people can’t fathom how a man could possibly be abused without doing something to provoke or encourage it.
funny thing is that they literally can not both be abusers, atleast not towards each other. the whole thing about abuse is an inbalance of power and control in a relationship. if one is an abuser that is the one who has more power and control in the relationship therefor making the other one not able to be an abuser since they can not both have more control than the other in the relationship
in many of these "they were both abuser" takes , it almost always ends with "but amber is just a human at the end of the day" as they fail to bring up any evidence on johnny being an abuser. So it's just from people refusing to believe / admit that men can indeed be victims
Amber’s Twitter response is just as goofy. She argues that her defamation was protected by the 1st amendment and is free speech. She basically admitted that she lied, but argued that her lying was okay because of the first amendment 💀💀
Amber's lack of empathy for anyone outside of herself and lack of self-awareness just screams "personality disorder". Reminds me of my ex, literally lying to herself and people around us about events that didn't even happen just so she can collect sympathy at the expense of me and my reputation. She even admitted to me she knows she's a compulsive liar and told me "so what".
That's pretty pretty messed up 😬 actually, your ex sounds like she needs help. But that might be part of the plan...which also sounds like she needs help if she actually went along with it
My ex with schizophrenia and BPD (she believes she's a fallen angel in contact with Lucifer) claimed contact with me that never happened after we broke up and claimed that a female friend of mine not only cheated with me, but also raped her. I found out about most of this secondhand long after.
The fact that there are people agreeing with Amber’s statement is wild, the jury’s decision didn’t set women back, Amber lying and claiming to be an abuse victim is what would set women back. Johnny isn’t a saint, but the amount of hole in her story and lies she was caught in make her too hard to believe
@Mirsty I believe that trial dismissed a lot of Johnny’s evidence and the Judge had concrete connections to Amber and his son worked for the paper Johnny was suing…
As much as they frustrate me, I think they lawyers had a difficult client (who was clearly LYING) and tried to do their best. I found the female lawyer Elaine B. to be frustrating and I didnt think she did a great job.. I am just a layman though not a lawyer. It also annoyed me that she implied the trial was unfair in interviews after. I think there were a lot of fumbles by the defense and when you combine that with a WHOLLY unlikeable, cringey client it's really an uphill battle.
Elaine had my sympathy before she started accusing the jury of not understanding the evidence/claimed the entire thing was bias and not admitting any faults in her frankly awful case. Elaine is living up to the tmz reporters accusation of wanting her fifteen minutes of fame at this point.
I was falsely accused of rape when I was 14 and the accuser was 17. It ruined my life and I’m still traumatised. people that falsely accuse deserve to rot in prison.
As someone who came from an abusive household (my dad was a violent alchoholic), I genuinely hate how the media is portraying this verdict, saying shit like "oh yeah it's really bad for women who get abused" "some women are retracting their statements for fear of a future defamation case" "we've gone so many steps back for dealing with domestic violence" "this has had a massive impact on the me too movement" and shit like that. As if Jhonny Depp being abused wasn't even real. I genuinely despise how Amber has been made out to be this fucking brave hero, fighting for abused women everywhere, like this was a huge blow to victims of domestic abuse. As a victim myself; I don't fucking claim her. It makes me so fucking angry that people don't believe men are also victims of domestic abuse, shame on everyone who is ignorant enough to support Amber Heard and her stupid fucking joke of a legal team. I'm glad that this case will now give some men the confidence to speak up about their experiences, we need to support everyone who has gone through this kind of violence in future.
@@YouKnowMeDuh Sorry. Mexicans are busy with some fishing in the Gulf. As a southern white person, we don't claim her. Let's pass er over to the Asians
@@YouKnowMeDuh as a female representative of the Mexican community, I'd like to say that amber Heard is wack and we most definitely do not claim her, maybe asians would like to give her a shot.
the thing i hate the most about this trial being over is there’s still those people saying “well yeah he won but we don’t know what’s going on when they’re alone i’m sure both got abused by the other”
I hate how people are like “meh meh meh this is setting women back.” When a lot of women who ACTUALLY ARE SURVIVORS SUPPORT JOHNNY. This isn’t setting women back, it’s holding us up to the exact standards of men, if you do bad things you get punished. That’s equality. Also i don’t think Turd even knows what the first amendment is lmao. But she used it!
so many weirdos defending her on twitter, it's wild. They think every DV case from now on will result in a defamation court where the abuser automatically wins 🤣
Man here in Belgium the Simp newsbroadcaster was salty bc he found that the jury just picked Depps side bc of the public opinion. I thought did this mf even watch the trial. People that think that women or no matter what group cant do anything wrong really scare me.
Some people have no perspective. As a dude whose been hit with some false accusations of abuse, I can tell you a triumph for the truth is a triumph for humanity.
The most vocal people out there declaring this a big victory are, themselves, victims of domestic abuse. They immediately recognized the brand of manipulative, gaslighting abuse Johnny went through and demanded justice. Even self-identifying feminists are speaking up, rightfully calling out the bullshit third-wave feminists have spewed for years and endorsed (thereby, enabling abusers like Heard to thrive and hide behind social justice movements). I'm no longer a feminist myself (egalitarianism is my jam), but I'm relieved these feminists are finally addressing issues with the MeToo Believe-All-Women narrative. So no, none of this 'sets back women' since the people celebrating today are those actively fighting for TRUE equality and justice. Depp's win only sets back the LYING, manipulative people out there who want to continue gaming the system.
As a male survivor of domestic abuse and SA this case hit a little too close to home for me and I'm very happy that Depp came out on top. To even take the abuser to court is a feat in itself and something I wish I had the strength to do.
The fact that Johnny wasn’t even at the verdict reading was such a baller move. All he cared about was clearing his name and he knew he succeeded regardless of whether he won or lost. Good for him.
Yeah, regardless of the court verdict. He already won the public court, something that he looks for with this intentionally open court. Amber team being super embarrassing is cherry on top.
@@CThyran inflammable has etymological coherence. "Inflame" is a word with the "in" with the sense of a metaphorical movement into flames, so "Inflammable" is something that is prone to getting inflamed, or moving into flames. It's unfortunate but perfectly valid that "in" is also used to negate a word fairly often. "irregardless" is not a case of that, its only in dictionaries because that particular linguistic mistake made it into the populace and therefore was used often enough to replace it's more logical and understandable "regardless". Etymonline has this to say about the etymology of "irregardless": > probably a blend of irrespective and regardless It's just a mistake. Don't defend it.
As a victim of physical and emotional abuse by a female partner I am deeply glad that an innocent man who was wounded and brought low by malice was able to find some relief. I hope he finds happiness in the wake of this abuse.
This case proves that not all men are abusers and that some women can be the abusers too. Way to go to not only depp for remaining chill throughout the trial (and laughs) but to the awesome Camille Vasquez for being such a cool lawyer.
@@OldFantasy I actually argued with people who defend amber on a Harry Potter group page on Facebook saying depp had anger issues and was why the studios got rid of him as grindelwald and Jack sparrow in Pirates of the Caribbean. Smh. Literally everyone Johnny had worked with has nothing but good things to say about him. Then I realized something, arguing with clueless people on Facebook or Twitter is just a waste of time, like amber wasted Johnny’s.
Love how Amber immediately made this about gender after losing. This really isn't a gender issue at all, she made it one. The irony of playing the WHAMEN card after being a massive hypocrite female abuser.
the true irony is that its probably the fact that she kept playing the "im the goddess of all female victims" card that made her lose the case. If she (or her lawyers) had stuck explicitly to the freedom of speech issue and the fact that libel is almost IMPOSSIBLE to prove in america, they would probably have won. But they made it about stuff that's way more subjective, who abused who and "amber represents all women"
I think the best takeaway from this is: Amber Turd isn't a posterchild for anyone except entitled, manipulative abusers. Women who've been abused: come forward. Men who've been abused: come forward. Anyone who believes Heard or relates to her: stfu, do us all a favor and hop right out of the gene pool.
One of the therapists in the trial that acted as a witness for Amber, literally framed abuse as men abusing women... That should tell you all you need to know.
to be "fair" that's how the *FBI themselves* define domestic abuse, the Duluth Model. just objectively sexist nonsense tripe, but has been the founding document for law enforcement dealing with domestic situations for decades. Under the duluth model there literally isn't a case where a man can be abused by a woman, that's not a thing that the model handles or allows for.
@@jebbush6657 This is 100% false. The Duluth model has absolutely nothing to do with the definition if "domestic abuse", and the FBI would rather use "family violence".
I died laughing at 05:25 when you said his text messages "read like some shit you'd find on an obscure tumblr blog from some edgy teenager". Too accurate. 🤣
@@exoblivione6086 I sure as hell wouldn’t mind if Johnny gave me $15 million dollars to get back at Amber. Weaponize the shit out of me. Lol I see what you mean though.
@@exoblivione6086 not really tho, cus he was gonna donate that 7 million himself, and she stopped him, so it’d really be more like fulfilling something that should have happened a long time ago
“Tell the world Johnny. Tell them Johnny Depp, I, Johnny Depp, a man, I’m a victim of domestic violence and I know it’s a fair fight, and see how many people believe or side with you.” -Amber Heard He did, the world believed him.
Hearing that recording made me so frustrated, upset and angry. Not just because of her condescending tone of voice, but because of what it represented; girl abusers KNOW that they're more likely to be believed if they deny accusations of abuse. And men? They're less likely to be believed. Or even taken seriously. That recording made me mad because I have never been believed for my abuse. Especially not the abuse I've suffered at the hands of women. So for him to actually win this? Not only am I shocked, but for once, I feel less alone in this issue. Johnny Depp has started a movement for male abuse survivors. Thank you for having the bravery to tell the world, Depp. First you, and now, hopefully many more.
I've seen a lot of people with the take of "this should never have been televised!" and I think they're wrong. This had to be televised. The world has to be shown that men could be victims of mental, emotional, and physical abuse at the hands of their domestic partner. For well over decades now, anytime a man would come forward about things like this it was always "I wonder what he did to piss them off" or "deserved". As a survivor of domestic abuse and manipulation myself, it made me very happy to see that male victims can get justice at last.
I 100% agree with you. A very close male friend was abused for years by his wife and it still effs with him even after she divorced him a few years back. My father-in-law is also a victim of the same CURRENTLY, and it’s twisted AF.
The only argument I can see for "this is bad for women" is that people who want to cast disbelief and discredit on a woman's abuse claims will point to this case and say "see? Amber Heard lied, so it's not uncommon, you are too, etc"
My thoughts exactly. This isn’t an attack on Johnny Depp or men speaking up about their abuse, it’s about Amber Heard discrediting women. She’s the one at fault for this, we’re mad at HER not anyone else,
I think if someone looks at this case and says “see? You can’t believe women,” they’re most likely already misogynistic and are just looking for any excuse. But I think most rational people understand that this type of thinking is counterintuitive and just stupid.
@@norwegianflag4365 It's perfectly fine to discredit a claim if, and this is important, *THAT CLAIM HAS NO EVIDENCE BACKING IT UP* The fact we got to a point where a claim is believed SIMPLY BECAUSE IT CAME FROM A WOMAN without any sort of evidence at all is stupidly disturbing.
I'm glad this was televised. The people who cared about the trial and the outcome could all see the evidence for themselves to form an opinion. I wasn't completely unbiased at the start, but I like to think I was willing to change my mind according to the evidence presented. We at least saw the same information the jury saw, so it's normal we sided with Johnny as the trial continued. Suddenly, there was a mountain of evidence, not proving AH was abused, but proving Johnny was. Yes, sometimes a victim won't have much photos, videos or recordings proving they were abused. But she did record and photographed A LOT, so in this case, it was unbelievable she wouldn't have evidence of her abuse. And then, the only abuse photos she had turned to be fake or shady. This isn't a step-back for women. This is a huge win for victims and I hope men see this as a good sign: people CAN believe a man is a victim of DV, you CAN come out with your story, you WILL be heard (pun not intended).
It will likely have a bad impact on women tho. Like Amber lying so damn hard is gonna be used against all public Me Too situations from now on. Just like jessie smollett is for hate crimes. The jurnos simply had the worst expression of this take, but it WILL have an effect.
@@Lycaon1765 I don't care if that impacted women or not at all , men always get the short end of the stick in court. and women do have more control in the relationship most of the time since they can accuse anyone of SA anytime. and could get the other person arrested regardless of whether the claim was correct or not. this is not equality. for equality to be possible a side has to compromise. if you consider this a loss for women then that's fine , the impact of this trial is not as strong as you think it is. people will still believe women regardless of evidence when it comes to these claims. which I think is not fair and is why everyone regardless of gender should prepare evidence if they're expecting something like this , malicious people will do anything to try to ruin your life.
@@mrbawls8736 go back incel dot me with that shit lmao. "wOmEn HaVe MoRe PoWeR bCuZ fAlSe AcCuSaTiOnS!!!!" If you look at the data, men are more likely to be victims of rape than to be falsely accused. You're just fearmongering. You should read my comment again, I'm not saying that Depp getting some justice is bad, which seems like an assumption you're making. I'm saying that Amber's whole scheme is bad for victims and her intentional abuse of people's trust is bad for actual victims.
@@Lycaon1765 Yeah, it WILL have an effect.... and it's Amber Heard's fault. People like her using the MeToo movement to hurt her victim and lying about being abused set the movement back, which is why it's absolutely bonkers that so many people still support her. If this is going to have a negative impact on women it's 100% her fault.
I agree 100% with you, this was a win for victims becoming empowered. More people will be strengthened to speak up and put a stop to the abuse because of this. I'm also really glad my favorite pirate is free and clear.
Johnny after winning: "I never cared about the money, I only cared about speaking the truth and letting my kids know the importance of it." Amber after losing: "Women won't be listened to. He won because he is a man."
@@Kryptic1046 She doesn't think that way, as evidenced by the recording. She's only trying to build negativity towards Depp, which isn't going to happen.
@@tonydai782 Sadly not true. Many are buying that rethoric. Even the media (as Charlie brought up). Loads of people on twitter are repulsed that she lost. Some people made up thier mind the second a man got accused. Nothing will make such people change thier mind.
Which is a win in the first place imo. Abusers don't deserve fame or anything out of ruining others lives by pretending they were the victim the whole time.
to be fair, a LOT of people are gonna use Amber Heard to accuse rape/abuse victims of faking it so i can see why they think that. specially in argentina lmao
For real. Men can be abused and need to be able to speak up as well. If there's any loss for women it's because of Amber's lies and taking advantage of a movement meant to bring abuse to light, not because of her losing. Her lies are a huge slap in the face to women survivors and because of her it could make it more difficult for them to speak up without fear or scrutiny. But at the end of the day I personally see this as a victory for MeToo: a victim of abuse was able to stand up against their abuser and prove to the world how awful they are. That's what the main takeaway from this should be
Because many bad people use MeToo as a weapon and a shield. The verdict is only bad for bad people, for people who would lie about this sort of thing. It is good for everyone else, for all victims, and for all those who support victims.
It shouldn't be a loss for MeToo but a gain. It should break the gender bias when it comes to men survivors of dv. We should celebrate that but people say it's a loss because Amber Heard declared herself the figure head of the movement. I don't know any of you but I don't think someone admitting psychical violence should be the head of MeToo. On top of that from a PR perspective the self declared figure head of MeToo turning out to be a liar and an abuser does create a ground for reactionary people to call every women coming forward with such claims a liar from the get go. I just hope these group of people will be a minority and won't be taken seriously and we will hear out the victims, regardless of gender, coming forward. Not believing everything they say but hearing out.
It's about time male victims of abuse are getting noticed and are being taken seriously, as one myself and someone who also has a bf who had a female abuser it's nice to know that people are actually gonna take all of us seriously now
Abuse has no gender! I’m so glad Johnny won. People like Amber who use the system to their advantage infuriates me. It not only invalidates actual abuse victims but it can ruin a man’s life just based off allegations alone. I’m so glad Johnny is doing better.
As a female victim of domestic abuse, Amber reminds me of my abuser to an alarming degree. I was so happy when I found out that Johnny won, since it felt like a win for victims as a whole rather than a men vs women scenario. My abuser got away with everything & left me with PTSD n shit, while he’s out there sniffing daisies & probably abusing more women. There’s literally nothing I can do about it, so I live vicariously through the victories of other abuse survivors. This was a win for everyone who has ever had the misfortune of enduring domestic abuse, regardless of their gender.
I am so sorry you went through DV and I am glad you survived it. I hear you, I believe you and you have been vindicated. Mr. Depp won and with him we did too.
@@Draftsman_of_Doom me too, sadly I think the only way that will happen is if he abuses someone who’s stronger than I was. If any of his future victims contact me, I’ll agree to testify as a witness or something. (It’s weird to be so certain about him having future victims, but that’s most likely what will happen)
Every woman in my life that knows about this case supports Johnny Depp and they all have feminist views, this isn't "men vs women" it's about abusers vs victims and real justice
Let's be honest, man, they support Johnny Depp because he's hot, popular, rich, and famous. If he weren't any one of those things he likely wouldn't have their support.
They claimed every witness there was there for their “15 minutes” As someone who’s suffered an abusive relationship and a Johnny fan this win does bring me a lot of joy
I completely agree with everything you said . I believe that men and women who survived abuse should be treated equally and normalise that speaking up against the abuser and having being abused doesn't mean it's their fault nor does it make the man less of a man or a woman weak Sorry for my English not a native speaker
Rather than thinking of yourself on the side of "women" or believing women, or being on the side of men, women who are real abuse survivors should think of themselves as being on the side of truth. Johnny is also on the side of truth. If you are a real abuse survivor, you are on that team.
Better yet, simply don't play identity politics. Don't try and align yourself with group identity, because it's absolutely stupid. You are an individual.
its so stupid bc these people think that supporting amber is some feminist girlboss move which is abhorrent. REAL feminism, striving for equality, is uplifting and supporting male survivors of abuse and assault and bringing awareness of abusers who are women. because men can be victims and women can be perpetrators. thinking all women are innocent is still regressive and illogical
My dad was a victim of physical and mental abuse by my step mom. I say was because she left the family long ago. For many years, I was very angry bc idk where she’s at I just know she’s out there, living her best life. Unbothered by the fact she hurt my dad and me. Having Johnny win this case brought me some peace. It shows males can also be victims of abuse and it is a very real thing.
Yes, she also contradicted herself before the trial even began when she sued for 100M, double JDs 50M After she filed divorce she claimed to "not want anything, donating all the $ charity" yet didn't give a dime. Her lawyer fees were 6M dollars and she bought a 1M dollar house in the desert.
She also threw them under the bus, when she at some point implied that it was her lawyers and representatives who published her evidence pictures to the media. Crazy.
I think this is great for women. Amber Heard is being treated like an adult who is responsible for her actions instead of being infantilized and coddled. I think this is a big step towards equality.
When there are actual reprecussions for people who lie about this stuff, it makes it easier to believe people when they come forward...When women are given the 'believe all women' treatment with no risk of backlash, it's easy to think they might be making something up...When the truth gets out, it's great for men and women who are good people, and it's bad for men and women who are bad people. Truth is good, no matter which gender it supports.
Absolutely. Women are just as human as men. They can be capable of shitty things too. Gender shouldn’t be a defining factor in whether or not something happened or someone gets jailed or not. What matters are the facts and those should be the only defining factors in a court of law
The people who say it affects female survivors don’t realise how flawed the justice system is in the first place. It doesn’t take away from female survivors, it just supports male survivors
Victims of abuse hardly receive justice no matter their gender. This will be good to raise awareness about male victims, which a lot of people don't consider to exist, but at the same time will reinforce the idea (which is very present) that women make up abuse stories to "get something out of it" while in reality the vast majority of women never actually receive justice because they're not taken seriously or they're too scared to denounce.
@@edp1963 This is the right comment. Anyone who says otherwise has never gone through something as heinous as this, as a woman. If anyone cares to look up how many r@pe kits were left to gather dust and the women never got justice. Many times male r@pists get away with it, far more times than anyone cares to realize. This in turn, however, makes it much harder for the male victims. It just sort of makes everyone take a few steps backwards, minus maybe some of the male DV victims. And that’s MAYBE. Because many ignorant people will use this case in detriment to women only, instead of actually helping male victims. It’s already happening in comment sections about this stuff. They use male victims to minimize female victims and then never care to actually help the male victims
@@edp1963 well that’s not anyones fault but amber heards. Get mad at her for taking abuse for money and attention not Johnny for not sitting there like a good little boy and letting everyone ruin his life over something he didn’t do (not saying that you are making this argument but the idea that it pushes that idea will be used against Johnny and any of his supporters falsely which does even more damage to the situation)
Mr. Rottenborn seemed relatively competent, especially during closing statements, and despite Elaine's clowning, I do hope AH's whole legal team is fairly compensated for their sincere efforts to defend an actual monster. They had their work cut out for them when AH is completely oblivious to human functioning and tries to perforn such actions on the witness stand.
whenever it comes out that a women abused a man ppl love to say 'it was mutual abuse. theyre both guilty'. but when its the other way around no one ever says that. its beyond frustrating.
Yeah exactly if the roles were reversed here you know that almost no one would be saying “well they’re both sort of bad”, it’d be full support for Amber. If Heard had said all the controversial stuff Johnny said, people would be supporting her not saying it makes her almost as bad
It was such a smart move to fight to televise this trial. Also, the only thing that was a setback for women was Amber herself. Fake victims make actual victims scared to speak up.
My friend speaks very openly about the abuse his boyfriend put him through. His boyfriend beat the shit out of him and burnt his home to the ground and never saw jail time for it. 1) because they are gay men in Eastern KY and 2) he was a male victim and anything physical or emotional that happens at the hand of his partner is automatically his fault. Another male friend of mine was raped at a party (i was not present) and while I was at another party a "friend" of his brought up his assault and got the whole room laughing. I tried to console him afterwards but he was obviously incredibly upset that his SA was openly mocked. This is a win for male victims for sure whose abusers never saw jail time
Those are the kind of men that will screech about men's rights but then turn around and mock fellow men instead of offering any kind of support. It's actually so infuriating thank you for reaching out to him none of your friends deserved to go through that
@@yowshiii3 Exactly. The kind of people who say sexism doesn't exist if a woman is complaining about mistreatment but then they suddenly have tons of shit to say about sexism against men if they see a woman expressing an opinion about something that has nothing to do with sexism against men. And yet they're the same kind of people who claim toxic masculinity doesn't exist even though toxic masculinity is sexism against men but it just arbitrarily doesn't count if men are doing it.
When I was younger and my parents were still married. I watched for years as my mom drank herself silly and would verbally and physically abuse and assault my dad. She never once got into trouble for it, even if police were called. After years of this, one night when she started in on him drunk as ever, he snapped and beat her up. She called the cops. He went to jail for 3 days and spent months battling it out in court. Ended up with a domestic violence charge. Stay safe kings. It is dangerous out there.
@Jiogurr After court. He had to be on probation for a very long time, had to take anger management counseling classes and report to a judge monthly. They ended up getting a divorce pretty soon after that. I was 15 when they split. I'm 28 now. I still am very close to my dad, me and my brother both are. My mom moved a state away. I might see her once a year. She still drinks like a fish. I just don't have time for that in my life. I still love her, sure, she's my mom. But its not like it should be.
@@taylorcoley6329 I'm glad he left her, it must been hard for him to withstand all that abuse, I don't blame him for snapping, unfortunately female abusers want that to happen to hurt others more. Sounds like she needed consulting and probation instead. Hope you, him, your brother are doing good.
@@taylorcoley6329 Tragic that you had to grow up seeing all that. Alcoholics deserve nothing but to suffer and die alone, even moreso if they abuse others. Disgusting that he had to take "anger management" courses for giving her a taste of her own medicine, like any normal person wouldn't reach a breaking point? When she's clearly the one with anger issues.
The Godfather of his daughter is a known rapist and abuser. He defended Roman Polanski who is a pedophile rapist. He uses strong misogynistic language. He mentions killing and raping someone. He has had a violent history dating back decades. There is more but feel free to look it up yourself.
Johnny Depp is definitely a blessing of a human being and the fact that he made children who didn't know how long they had left be able to smile and pay for his cab drivers cancer treatment and even through all the bullshit Amber Turd put him through and he's still a kindhearted individual shows that humanity and compassion are still alive and this not only puts a smile on my face knowing he finally got justice that he deserved for a long time but it also warms my heart.
I was one of those people on the fence for a while, because every time I did try to discuss it with people, no one would present me with any of the actual facts from the trial. They would just say they don’t trust Amber, and since no one ever presented evidence I assumed there wasn’t anything clear on either side. Once I actually saw the trial though, it was absolutely clear that Johnny was not an abuser by any means. His win is a step forward for all survivors of abuse.
I told my friend that Johnny won and he said “she’s only worth 2mil, he won’t be getting much” It’s bigger than the money, it’s the message. I’m not saying Johnny was 100% in the right, but it’s time to recognize that men can fall victims to domestic violence too. My hearts with anyone that had to go through it ❤️
Yess! This is not a "loss for women", this is a win for men and justice. Which we should all celebrate. If anything this goes to show that the justice system doesn't favour women, giving female victims of domestic abuse MORE credibility.
this is a win for anyone who’s domestically abused, men or women. neither gender should be discredited or put down, it should be the abusers. i’m so glad this case has bought light to abuse. hopefully all victims can receive the justice they deserve.
@@madeleine2278 not really, the justice system leans in support of women way more of men, it’s refreshing to a man win a abuse trail, finally. Big win for men today
@@Chadius_Thundercock sure maybe that’s the case! but in reality 99% of abuse cases don’t even make it to court, and justice isn’t served at all. i know so many abusers who still live a normal life, hopefully this case will bring light to abuse for everyone, and allow more cases to be taken seriously. i respect your opinion though :)
It doesn’t hurt women. It just shows that the legal system in this case worked as it should, that lying isn’t going to work like it has before in the past. Women don’t and shouldn’t just get a free pass . Equal is equal Unless you lie about abuse, this event shouldn’t effect or frighten you.
I'd also add that three of the true heroes in the trial were all amazing women! Judge A (Marine Corps veteran), Camille Vasquez, and Dr. Shannon Curry (psychologist) were all phenomenal! This is actually a huge win for women just on that note alone, along with everything else you've said.
people like to paint this is a men vs women thing when the people that's dunking on Amber in courts are women. Johnny just there to tell his side of the story.
I've been abused by a female partner several times in the past, in several ways, and demonised for finally defending myself while being ridiculed for not defending myself earlier AND saying that a woman can rape a man because of a man's fear what will happen if he defends himself. Almost everyone at some point turned against me from the moment I stood up for myself. Society didn't believe me, but did spit on me, all while she just walked. I'm not going to pretend I didn't sink to depths I'm not proud of during those months of near constant abuse on physical, mental, and emotional levels. But I'm also not proud of beating up some of my school bullies (one in a literal blind rage, and when I came to my senses held down by 3 teachers I panicked believing for a few seconds I had murdered him), still I know I had to to escape from them as well. I didn't do anything remotely as severe in that terrible relationship though. But I feel like the 'real' victim became the victor here, despite also believing neither were saints. I'll drink a megapint of orange juice tomorrow to that.
I hope the ending of this trial gives you hope for the future As a women I think all abuser who happen to be female should be treated like one who happens to be male Hope life treats you better
I'm glad you mentioned these things about men and domestic abuse, and what horrifying things people say about it. As a male victim of domestic abuse and sexual abuse, it's touching to hear from others validating it as a thing and hope more people acknowledge it, and hopefully other male victims out there feel less discouraged to open up and seek help
Johnny Depp's stance from the beginning was awesome. "I'm a terrible, crazy, toxic person. My life is a mess, and I'm all over the map. But I'm not a wife beater."
Didnt help that her lawyers name was Rottenborn thats some cartoon level villain name right there
Here before the bots are.
@@0Rosanna you’re a legend mate hold down the fort before the bots swarm with their villainous gaze
@@WSendam agreed, bots have scorned youtube for generations. we must all fight against them.
True.
@@reecerichards5664 thanks man
My main thing is that she faked a photo of herself that got called out by an actual forensic expert. Then she lied several more times afterwards
Ya and the fact she recorded one of his suicide attempts and said the knife is to dall
And her own witness admitted on stand that those were visually different, but taken at the exact same moment.
@@nolanahannigan3224 source? Not defending amber I just hadn't heard or seen this.
And she claimed they all lied pfffffft
She really perjured and got away with that, but not the case 🙏🙏
As a guy who is currently going to court over having a female stalker, fuck yes. I'm so tired of people acting like guilt is a gender issue
For what it's worth: best of luck to you for that.
I hope all the best for you !! :)
goodluck ig!
good luck man
@ForgiveZharionwhat’s the point
You can’t be a feminist and say men can’t get abused. Hold everyone accountable for their actions, even women.
Preach
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that is the number 1 one reason why i hate feminists because they cant/dont live up to their title, "gender *equality* ".
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The nerve of Amber to claim "Johnny won because he's powerful and popular" after 6 years of him being condemned by her lies and struggling for any support until this trial started bringing the truth to light. She must truly believe her own lies at this point.
@Don't Read Profle Photo wait a minute
@Don't Read Profle Photo you thought eh
@@pacotaco1246 No it's not, please don't say her behavior is normal bpd because it's really not and just makes anyone with it seem cruel and evil.
I think most people understand suing for defamation is a last resort when someone is lying about you. If he was that powerful he wouldn't of needed to do that. And he wouldn't have won if he couldn't prove her allegations damaged his career
Probably. Sometimes people lie to themselves for long enough that they end up believing the lie. It’s scary how malleable the mind can be…
My personal favorite moments:
1. The movie expert who didn’t know Robert Patterson was Batman
2. A celebrity expert saying that Amber is one of the most disliked actors, and he had data to back it up.
3. The sass from the TMZ guy
4. That Johnny’s love of lamas was brought up by Amber’s team.
5. The lady lawyer on Johnny’s side giving Amber serious sass when she was on the stand.
I would also like to add the psychologist woman who was with JD. The fact they tried to manipulate a fuckin psychologist and didn't see how that would backfire is beyond me. Like she is literally an expert in that field.
W opinion
@@TheKatera4a All the expert that amber lawyer who supposedly have 30+ years of experience bring to the court is downright laughable.
Bringing those clown against pretty well known heavy hitter lawyer, is suicide.
Lamas are awesome, fuck amber 💯
When did #1 happen
The Terry Crews case always upset me so much. It doesn't matter how tall, muscular, or masculine you look anyone can be abused, sexually, physically and/or mentally. Humans deserve human rights.
Responding to show respect
Exactly. Abuse of power seems to be a common factor. Heard thought she could use the power of her gender and the way she expected the media to portray her. Crews was in a situation where someone with power in the industry knew he could take advantage. It is disgusting.
Exactly.
Wait there was a thing for Terry crews? He looks like a great guy.
@@wealthybone2990 Yup he admitted to being abused in one of his relationships, alot of people respected his decision to step forward especially as a man. I don't belive it went beyond that but the comment above me said there was a case which is unfortunate if he lost due to his gender and appearance.
this isn't men vs women. this is truth vs lies. victims vs abusers. it's pathetic how she was and still is playing the gender game. ironic really when pretty much everyone, that including women, is on Johnny's size
It’s pretty funny she’s still trying to play the victim
it's humanity vs naricissism
@@TyTy-vg3cm And Magazines and News Sites believe her. I wouldn't expect any less from Vox though.
Because we got to see and hear the truth
a lot of women are defending amber heard. Probably cuz amber is a woman
The fact that Amber Heard is still trying to spin this as a loss for women is insane, she lied and manipulated Johnny and tried to do the same to do the jury. I'm glad that Johnny could win this
Charlie is out of touch and does not know much about Johnny depp. He was borrowing money from banks. Of course he cared about money. Stop supporting a ab user like JD !!!!
@UC-ix63sfPTlfHecgR0enmmQ it's a bot, he's on every comment I've seen
Bro, most women who heard about the case were laughing at her stupidity and failed manipulation.
@@lockerbuddy2039 there are some women who do side with Amber. I feel bad for them. They dont care about evidence .
@@lockerbuddy2039 they’re like “I could manipulate a lot better than her”
I'm glad it's over. Not just for Johnny, but for those who think they can get away with false accusations.
Ratio + yb better + nobody asked + this u 🤓🤓👨🏼💻👨🏼💻👶🏽
@@forgivezharion6989 Shut up + ratio
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@@butwhatif2489 + i r*ped ur lil sibling
@@butwhatif2489 i would help your ratio if you simply didn't use a tone indicator
Let's be real, the only reason the outcome was in his favor is because his status as a celebrity. For the average man things will remain the same.
the best part of the evidence being open to the public is people could form their own opinion, the media couldn't spin it in Heard's favor despite their best efforts, this is a big step for male victims of abuse when Johnny managed to clear his name
Agreed! Like many have said, no matter how much the media attempts to spin the trial as a "big disadvantage for women" and what other ridiculous headlines they have in store, the truth is visibly there for the people to see, and they cannot make anyone (besides radfems and Heard supporters) believe otherwise.
@@Heneraluha if anything Heard was the one harming women because she’s still trying to be a mouthpiece for abuse victims despite all the evidence against her
@ForgiveZharion Ratio + yb better + nobody asked + this u 🤓🤓👨🏼💻👨🏼💻👶🏽
I swear every single media outlet even Fox News kept trying to dip their toes into trying portray Johnny as guilty and amber innocent.
No ratio + I asked + This u: 😎😎😎
As a female survivor of abuse, well done Johnny Depp. The “this will hurt women” narrative is stupid. This will help ALL survivors get listened to. Unless u are someone who makes false accusations against people ans tries to get away with it, u have nothing to fear by amber loosing.
From an ethical point of view, you are right.
But that's not the conceptual framework that narrative is couched in. It's not about justice towards individuals, nor compassion, it's about the balance of power between genders. And from that pov, this will hurt women. Power is a zero-sum game, it's purely adversarial. If a man wins, women lose
no, this will hurt women, but in a way that now some men will use this case as justification that women lie and ur normal non billionaire women won't be able to win their own cases. Even now ppl started supporting Shia LaBeouf even tho he himself admitted to abusing his partner. this case only set us back. No one believes women like y'all think they do. Ppl supporting a famous actress doesn't equal ppl believing every woman.
@@marcodallolio9746 that's a fuckin stupid way to say you're a misandrist
As a man who's survived abuse, I see where you're coming from, but I feel like I've already seen this become weaponized by men to make it look like ALL women are abusers, and several people IN THIS COMMENT SECTION have implied very heavily that women are more abusive than men, or making other harmful implications to ALL survivors of abuse. It's upsetting, and yes it is harmful. Unfortunately a lot of people, especially the more incel type, will use this to prove that all women are evil, which is just an awful stigmatization in the first place, and it hurts everyone equally. No, Johnny didn't deserve to go through what he did, but the weaponization of this is absolutely disgusting.
@@marcodallolio9746 That word salad made absolutely no sense. It sounded like a bad attempt at sounding like you know political philosophy. So far any of you naysayers have failed to demonstrate how it'll affect women.
I felt so bad for Terry Crews when he tried to talk about his own abuse story. he's such a gem and a meme-legend. especially during the old spice commercial times... I hope he's in a better place now than he was. Dude deserves it in my opinion just for all the laughs he gave me over the years.
Yeah it's pretty sad how even the internet turned on him.
@Raagan Bakhshi it's a bot, it spams this comment on like every one of Charlie's videos in replies to other comments.
He even built a computer for his son from 4 years ago i think
what
I fully agree
She used the lowest points in Johnny’s life to use as “evidence” of abuse. She is an evil woman.
Apparently, she's broke, and her lawyers smelled a payout, hence the countersuit. But Depp's team had a secret weapon to help them win: Amber Heard.
while the evidence she provided was not great, a lot of the time you can find the most evidence against someone when they are at their worst point in their life because that’s when they’ll usually be making the worst/best decisions
And I’m sure it being a toxic relationship and Amber being a manipulative human contributed a lot to those points being the lowest in his life.
And she wanted to divorce him few days after his mom just passed away and by the way, the video of him ranted out in the kitchen happened after his mom passed away. She was even smiling and laughing on that video! The TMZ's ex employee who shut down Elaine for her "15 minutes of fame comment" confirmed that the video had edited out and it was Amber herself who did that.
she also kept trying to bring his kids into it, so gross
This is such a big win for male victims of domestic abuse and males being accused of domestic abuse, absolutely amazing
Damn right, he earned that win
True ❤️❤️i hope this will make women who falsely accuses men think about this case and fear the results
Man these bots are so annoying
This should be the beginning of a change in how abuse cases for men are treated
@@jamesbuscarini fr
You know what's bad for women? A woman making a fake claim. It does make it harder for women to come forward with claims. But it's Amber's fault, hers alone. He is the victim of domestic violence. And he deserves justice
I don't think it is. I think it shows that we need to wait before jumping to conclusions. Innocent until proven guilty, whether it's a man or a woman. I think this is a good moment for male victims and a bad moment for toxic masculinity because now that a manly movie star has shown publicly that he can be abused by a woman, hopefully people will change their perceptions about men. They can cry, they can be abused, they can be sexually assaulted and no, they don't have to man up and take it and hide their emotions and their pain.
I completely agree with you on it makes things harder for women. I have friends who are victims of DV and seeing this whole case was just terrifying for them. Because of her, survivors who come forward must now bare the implications attached to the verdict that women who come forward against powerful men may not only not be believed, but actively punished. Now, survivors will be much more reluctant to come forth about their instances of abuse out of fear of being humiliated and receiving intense backlash. Some, not all, but some men will really take any opportunity to shame a woman and call her a liar. It’s truly horrible.
@@indya2762 no need for worries unless they are lying
@geist souls No Johnny did NOT lose a case in the UK for abusing AH. He lost a DEFAMATION case against a newspaper that called him a “wife beater” 🙄
@geist souls that’s not why he lost in the UK. He lost a defamation case against a newspaper that called him a wife beater. Please do your research
This case played out like an ace attorney trial with how goofy Amber’s legal team was.
Someone made a series of animations styled like an ace attorney trial. Its wild as hell
@@aerchys4779 what is it called
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As a man who's been in an abusive relationship, yes, it's absolutely possible. Great to see things brought to light like this
Pay no mind to those bots in your comment section, I support you and so does every other man
@ForgiveZharion counter ratio
That’s why I was SOOOOOO into this trial. I was in a very toxic relationship, and towards the end she started to psychologically abuse me pretty bad. Luckily I broke it off before it was able to get too bad. I’m still fucked up by it after all this time. So this trial, I related to it. My heart was RACING leading up to the verdict reading today
@@game-enjoyer13 Glad you got out in time man. My friends dragged me out too thankfully, and I gotta say, as awful as it is in hindsight it was difficult to end things.
@@user-bc4nd2ri2p cool name
As a woman, seeing Amber play the gender card like that infuriates me and is such an insult to actual female victims of abuse. Anyone can be abused, stalked, and harassed, and I hope this helps inspire more male victims to speak up. Abusers come in all shapes and forms and they all need to be called out and stopped.
amber making everyone look bad
@@cameracameracamera it's a good thing actually. Prevention better than precaution
And now she wants to appeal the decision lol
That's one thing I actually have the fear of. That there's actually so many more male victims out there but they have just never spoken up or tried to. So people still piggyback on the fact that the male victims are statistically low
Amen gurl
Johnny's horrible text messages can be explained by someone dealing with abuse venting to their friend.
Plus the fact that the only 'evidence' that wasnt faked or beyond out of context they even had was that text, and its not even _to her._ You'd think thered be one single text, video or recording of him saying those types of things to her if he was that type of person, not...quoting a movie he was in to a friend after he had his life imploded by his abuser
I was 100% expecting her lawyers to say “objection hearsay” when the jury was talking
@ForgiveZharion fatherless energy
@ForgiveZharion she still lost hard bud, cope and simp
lol i was hoping for that happened too, fuck from lawyer to clown lmao. that should be peak comedy in 2022 😂
@ForgiveZharion speak english please
@ForgiveZharion lmao yb twitter accounts get more respect than you, get back to sleep you have a test tomorrow
Justice has been served today. Not only to Johnny, but to the people who has been in similar situations.
Charlie is out of touch and does not know much about Johnny depp. He was borrowing money from banks. Of course he cared about money. Stop supporting a ab user like JD !!!!
@ForgiveZharion Taking an L there
@ForgiveZharion Silence bot
No it isnt. If Depp werent famous and rich the Judge could have EASILY thrown out the video and audio evidence it happens all the time.
Why have I seen this exact comment on 4 different videos
INNOCENT until PROVEN guilty, that’s why defamation is so serious, it ruins your reputation before your case ever gets to court. So happy for Johnny, Amber got what was coming to her
Here before da bots
Ratio + yb better + nobody asked + this u 🤓🤓👨🏼💻👨🏼💻👶🏽
Hey it’s the 21st century, now it’s guilty until proven innocent.
And on top of that you can nevver really 100% recover from defamation. They'll always be some people out there that believe amber herd aka the false accuser.
@@Bro1212_ Can't wait for 22nd century, guilty until proven guilty.
Johnny was definitely doing drugs, but he openly admitted to that fact. That really helped his case imo, he was honest and admitted his flaws. The fact that Amber tried to make herself innocent and lied about so much RUINED her. There might have been a lot of friction between them, she was an instigator and tried to continue fights when he tried to walk away from those fights.
It's great that Amber lost the case, it's actually a step up for male victims of DV, because more often that if a woman even MENTIONS DV then the man gets put in cuffs. There's several cases where men's lives were destroyed because of false claims of DV or SA. I
Some psychologist actually made a video regarding Amber's behavior in court, and mentioned that based on her strange body language, lack of consistency between her upper half facial expression and lower half facial expression, her apparent need to explain things that didnt matter, etc., all were features that commonly appear in people who abuse drugs. I think anyone can ignore that Johnny was on drugs at some point in light of Amber potentially being on drugs through the trial.
@@YouKnowMeDuh were her lawyers on drugs too? Cause what is a megapint?
@@lorekeeper685 It's a *pint²*
@@Ojas97 oh? It's been so long I don't rember the context lol
I assume something their lawyers said
@@lorekeeper685 if we go by science, it would be a million pints
I'm very relieved to see that he won, this case really speaks for how male abuse victims are treated and I think this might help overall. Johnny deserved this
The disappointment I feel today is beyond
words. I'm heartbroken that the mountain
of evidence still was not enough to stand
up to the disproportionate power,
influence, and sway of my ex-husband.
I'm even more disappointed with what this
verdict means for other women. It is a
setback. It sets back the clock to a time
when a woman who spoke up and spoke
out could be publicly shamed and
humiliated. It sets back the idea that
violence against women is to be taken
seriously.
I believe Johnny's attorneys succeeded in
getting the jury to overlook the key issue
of Freedom of Speech and ignore
evidence that was so conclusive that we
won in the UK.
I'm sad I lost this case. But I am sadder
still that I seem to have lost a right I
thought I had as an American - to speak
freely and openly.
@@MrUssy101 what are you fucking talking about
He was no victim
heyyy i'm the first human comment, that counts for something, right?
@@AziDoesQuestionableThings lol yeah it's wild seeing all these bots 💀 congrats
“Go tell the world that I, Johnny Depp, a man, am a victim of domestic abuse, and see how many people actually believe you.”
Well, I guess we and the jury have ultimately proved you wrong, Amber.
@UrMom nice try.
Johnny's win is actually a huge victory for ALL victims of domestic abuse, ESPECIALLY men, who often tend to be unfairly positioned by the pro-feminist media in the "bad side of the story". With the influence this man has on people already, he may have just given us a glimpse of hope to slowly begin to eradicate all those monsters that take advantage of their partners in order to use and humiliate them, causing them chronic psychological and mental problems. Thankfully, Mr. Depp may now enjoy his life peacefully, he got his *stolen* dignity back and that's what matters.
@UrMom Weak bait
That line was iconic. It should be put at the last part of its Netflix documentary trailer
That’s the thing with domestic abuse, sure women are the more likely victim but that doesn’t mean men can’t be to. My grand-parents knew someone who was in a similar situation and in the end he divorced her.
Amber Heard Still trying to play the victim and make it all about gender after Johnny Depp fought so hard to win is absolutely disgusting. We love you Johnny!
Let’s be honest. The UK courts found Depp abused her, a US jury has found this article to be defamatory. It’s 1-1 for now, let’s see what happens on appeal.
Fr shes really just a insane narcissist
Here come the bots... 😐
@@Player-jh4ko smh
Narcissist will be like that
As a male victim of abuse from a woman. This case was inspiring. i wish I could sue my narcissistic ex for destroying my own reputation. There is still hope for us men. Don’t suffer in silence.
Seen a lot of this and how women can just use feminism and woke to control shit. Watched a highschool bud of mine got accused of rape and his whole future fell apart! Bitch also split my class in half in who was on which side. It wasn't until years later that it was proven that he was innocent and she made shit up. Wish it was made public cause I wanna see that bitch torn to pieces by my class. Fuck feminism.
True
Gender equality >>> Feminism
It's really sickening how men are forced to suffer in silence and will be seen as weak if they complain about anything.
@@handsomezack2054 thats very clear zack
@@msm324 You have idea that feminism stands for gender equality, right?
Such a good point about lazy people staying mid and saying “they are both abusers”
Agreed
I know! People like that are so gd dense
@Kavetion didn't ask lol
Or they just don’t care
@Matthew1157 and yet still comment about what's going on like they know and form an opinion when they haven't payed attention 🤔 seems pretty lazy lol
In a way we should thank Amber. She has proven that it’s not always men who abuse their partners. Hopefully that belief will now progress towards being destigmatized.
Thank Johnny Depp for not giving up and keep moving forward
hi alias
Hey it's Alias
Also thanks to Camille who stayed strong by Johnny Depp during this whole case, W lawyer
I doubt it but I highly agree. It's the same for so many different topics. Rape as an example. If a woman accuses a man that he raped her, many people will believe her. If a man accuses a woman that she raped him, nobody will believe him and they'll even laugh at him. If a woman slaps a man nobody gives a shit. If a man slaps a woman everybody loses their mind.
I've been seeing a lot of women who are survivors of abuse siding with Johnny, and a common thing I would see from them is "the way Amber Heard acts/talks to Johnny/etc reminds me of how my abuser treated me"
100%
YEP.
This phenomenon has not gone unnoticed by me either.
lol i’ve seen the same thing said about the way johnny acts. how it reminds them of their abuser. he’s laughing, being condescending, and is on the verge of falling asleep, but amber is the one acting strange? might we all remind you, amber has BPD which is the exact opposite of narcissism. so if your take away from all of this is that amber is a narcissist, that should really tell you where you entire perspective of this trial lies. you guys are such deluded sheep. cant think for yourselves at all.
@@hardcore86 Clown 1
The amount of posts on twitter I’ve read that this trial has been a “set back for women” is not just disgusting, it’s blanket gaslighting.
it is a set back for women bc making a fake claim as huge as this hurts women who are actually suffering
@@orangejuice4266Depp winning this case is not the thing that could set back real female survivors…Heards false claims are
Her false claims could have a negative effect for female survivors as it unfortunately gives abuse disbelievers an example to point to where a woman fabricated DV claims for personal gain and to ruin a man’s reputation
However, anyone pointing to this one example as ‘proof’ that every female survivor is lying is just an idiot anyway so…
A victim should be supported and deserves their fair justice regardless of gender
Even when men are the victim some women have to make it about themselves
@@Aaron-kj8dvit's just women nature😂
this is the greatest win of all time
Are you being ironic?
@@Walterdecarvalh0100 Absolutely not!
@@Walterdecarvalh0100 Yh fr 😂 good for Johnny but it ain’t the greatest win ever 🤣
OOOOHHHH BABY
The disappointment I feel today is beyond
words. I'm heartbroken that the mountain
of evidence still was not enough to stand
up to the disproportionate power,
influence, and sway of my ex-husband.
I'm even more disappointed with what this
verdict means for other women. It is a
setback. It sets back the clock to a time
when a woman who spoke up and spoke
out could be publicly shamed and
humiliated. It sets back the idea that
violence against women is to be taken
seriously.
I believe Johnny's attorneys succeeded in
getting the jury to overlook the key issue
of Freedom of Speech and ignore
evidence that was so conclusive that we
won in the UK.
I'm sad I lost this case. But I am sadder
still that I seem to have lost a right I
thought I had as an American - to speak
freely and openly.
Between this and Jack Wright coming forward about what Sienna Mae did to him it's so amazing to see the support for male abuse victims, this is hopefully going to be a big turning point on taking the topic seriously and making sure we don't let abusers of any gender get away with it. Congrats Johnny and I hope he's happy in the UK with his mega pint of justice!
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@@Hiroakiarai88 the script Amber heard's defence team received.
Even with all this coverage, people will still believe the woman. They are lucky they’re famous or they would be locked up and life ruined. It’s a sad JS we have here
@Syrasmine ye nah how you gonna compare the male to female false accusations like its even close in number especially then when its ones who get their loves ruined because of it it is a gender issue because men have to deal with it and the odd few of women do aswell sure that doesnt stop it from being a gender issue tho
@Syrasmine Not a hot take. It is definitely a gender issue, and women are not as frequently falsely accused of sex crimes (I have no stats for this but it's essentially a given).
I’m glad Johnny won, he deserves so much love after the hell he went through.
The disappointment I feel today is beyond
words. I'm heartbroken that the mountain
of evidence still was not enough to stand
up to the disproportionate power,
influence, and sway of my ex-husband.
I'm even more disappointed with what this
verdict means for other women. It is a
setback. It sets back the clock to a time
when a woman who spoke up and spoke
out could be publicly shamed and
humiliated. It sets back the idea that
violence against women is to be taken
seriously.
I believe Johnny's attorneys succeeded in
getting the jury to overlook the key issue
of Freedom of Speech and ignore
evidence that was so conclusive that we
won in the UK.
I'm sad I lost this case. But I am sadder
still that I seem to have lost a right I
thought I had as an American - to speak
freely and openly.
@RLM unhinged individual
The fuck is happening in here
@@MrUssy101 Are you quoting someone?
Bots....everywhere I go
7:22 I just looked up that part about Dr. Phil because I wanted to see how bad it was. Jesus, that was hard to sit through.
From what was shown in the clip, it seems the woman repeatedly attacked and hurt the man, and when he inevitably snapped and took a swing at her, he was publicly humiliated by Dr. Phil and was told that he's a "chicken shit coward" among other things.
It was genuinely painful and sad to watch, I hope he's doing better now.
dr phil is an unhelpful narcissistic piece of shit like seriously has anyone who went on his garbage show went on to have better lives because of his "advice"
That's horrifying
I’m so glad charlie is saying all of this, people on twitter have the most awful takes about this whole situation
@ForgiveZharion yeah that’s me actually
It's Twitter. What do you expect.
Edit: Expect not respect. Darn autocorrect.
@@malsserenity3679 bone apple tea. it's expect not respect. also why use twitter?
@@malsserenity3679 I respect wamen
@@waleedd857 that's a bot bro look at its profile □
I’m glad you brought up how bad the whole “they were both abusers, just as awful as each other” take is. I feel like that sort of thinking is still rooted in the idea that men cannot just be victims and that they obviously must have done something horrible too in order to invite abuse onto themselves. Like people can’t fathom how a man could possibly be abused without doing something to provoke or encourage it.
funny thing is that they literally can not both be abusers, atleast not towards each other. the whole thing about abuse is an inbalance of power and control in a relationship. if one is an abuser that is the one who has more power and control in the relationship therefor making the other one not able to be an abuser since they can not both have more control than the other in the relationship
this
in many of these "they were both abuser" takes , it almost always ends with "but amber is just a human at the end of the day" as they fail to bring up any evidence on johnny being an abuser. So it's just from people refusing to believe / admit that men can indeed be victims
I think a lot of those people initially believed Amber and then wasn't able to change their opinion 180 degrees.
@@mathiasz0435 like my mother, refused to even watch the court videos
Amber’s Twitter response is just as goofy. She argues that her defamation was protected by the 1st amendment and is free speech. She basically admitted that she lied, but argued that her lying was okay because of the first amendment 💀💀
lmfaooo if that were true, defamation wouldn’t be a crime here
she’s beyond delusional
Uhh and all her reply’s are pro her!
@@3DInnovations70 she has replies disabled for people who don't follow her
how is she gonna use free speech to defend herself and not even allow people she doesn't follow to reply to her tweet lol
Lol, her reply/post made me laugh. Using freedom of speech to try and justify that.
Amber's lack of empathy for anyone outside of herself and lack of self-awareness just screams "personality disorder". Reminds me of my ex, literally lying to herself and people around us about events that didn't even happen just so she can collect sympathy at the expense of me and my reputation. She even admitted to me she knows she's a compulsive liar and told me "so what".
That's pretty pretty messed up 😬 actually, your ex sounds like she needs help. But that might be part of the plan...which also sounds like she needs help if she actually went along with it
My ex with schizophrenia and BPD (she believes she's a fallen angel in contact with Lucifer) claimed contact with me that never happened after we broke up and claimed that a female friend of mine not only cheated with me, but also raped her. I found out about most of this secondhand long after.
@@chitoryu12 that''s horrible. was any of it true??
Fuck that's just like my ex. Looked through my phone messages and basically told me there's nothing wrong with that. Among other things..
yeah, screams psychopathy to me
The fact that there are people agreeing with Amber’s statement is wild, the jury’s decision didn’t set women back, Amber lying and claiming to be an abuse victim is what would set women back. Johnny isn’t a saint, but the amount of hole in her story and lies she was caught in make her too hard to believe
@Mirsty What about it? Are you counting that as a legit win lol, did you even look thru any of it
@Mirsty I believe that trial dismissed a lot of Johnny’s evidence and the Judge had concrete connections to Amber and his son worked for the paper Johnny was suing…
@Mirsty ew british people
@Mirsty british "people" love turds don't they, teeth is proof enough.
@Mirsty Ok? Uk isn’t a real country. Don’t care.
I hope her career is ruined after this. The fact that she thought she could win after telling all these blatant lies is mind boggling.
Her career was dead to begin with because she was such a shitty actor that directors spread around Hollywood to avoid her.
it is
Only a narcissist who has never lost nor took any responsibility for their acts would think that.
many have before her thanks to the metoo
The jury saw right though her lies.
Justice is served. Johnny didn’t care about the money, he wanted to prove his innocence and he did. JUSTICE FOR JOHNNY.
Oh he ofc cared about the money
@@medi6892 He just wanted his fans and the whole media to know that he wasn't an abuser.
And to get the money.
@@medi6892 he donated all 8 mil to charity though…?
I'd argue he and his team didn't even prove his innocence. Most of the evidence in his favor was presented by the other side.
As much as they frustrate me, I think they lawyers had a difficult client (who was clearly LYING) and tried to do their best. I found the female lawyer Elaine B. to be frustrating and I didnt think she did a great job.. I am just a layman though not a lawyer. It also annoyed me that she implied the trial was unfair in interviews after. I think there were a lot of fumbles by the defense and when you combine that with a WHOLLY unlikeable, cringey client it's really an uphill battle.
Elaine had my sympathy before she started accusing the jury of not understanding the evidence/claimed the entire thing was bias and not admitting any faults in her frankly awful case.
Elaine is living up to the tmz reporters accusation of wanting her fifteen minutes of fame at this point.
@@germyforev4495 Elaine Benes?
I was falsely accused of rape when I was 14 and the accuser was 17. It ruined my life and I’m still traumatised. people that falsely accuse deserve to rot in prison.
did you manage to prove innocent ?
I can't imagine how terrible that was for you. I'm sorry.
How the fuck people believed a 17 year old instead of 14 yr old how? !
@@2b134 he says it ruined his life so i assume not
Agreed
Big W for Johnny Depp, he deserves the win.
These bots are a disease
@@pedro-ty4rt facts
@@chadchadderson2329 facts
Chad back at it again, being the most agreeable and calm person in existence
@@thefeatheredbutcher2806 facts
As someone who came from an abusive household (my dad was a violent alchoholic), I genuinely hate how the media is portraying this verdict, saying shit like "oh yeah it's really bad for women who get abused" "some women are retracting their statements for fear of a future defamation case" "we've gone so many steps back for dealing with domestic violence" "this has had a massive impact on the me too movement" and shit like that. As if Jhonny Depp being abused wasn't even real.
I genuinely despise how Amber has been made out to be this fucking brave hero, fighting for abused women everywhere, like this was a huge blow to victims of domestic abuse.
As a victim myself; I don't fucking claim her.
It makes me so fucking angry that people don't believe men are also victims of domestic abuse, shame on everyone who is ignorant enough to support Amber Heard and her stupid fucking joke of a legal team.
I'm glad that this case will now give some men the confidence to speak up about their experiences, we need to support everyone who has gone through this kind of violence in future.
@dj Kplus Yeah, but she also DESERVED to lose
Exactly! The truth is a defense against defamation which is why Amber's claims failed
As a female representative of the black community, we do not claim her either. If I may, we will pass her over to the Mexicans for evaluation.
@@YouKnowMeDuh Sorry. Mexicans are busy with some fishing in the Gulf. As a southern white person, we don't claim her. Let's pass er over to the Asians
@@YouKnowMeDuh as a female representative of the Mexican community, I'd like to say that amber Heard is wack and we most definitely do not claim her, maybe asians would like to give her a shot.
the thing i hate the most about this trial being over is there’s still those people saying “well yeah he won but we don’t know what’s going on when they’re alone i’m sure both got abused by the other”
I hate how people are like “meh meh meh this is setting women back.” When a lot of women who ACTUALLY ARE SURVIVORS SUPPORT JOHNNY. This isn’t setting women back, it’s holding us up to the exact standards of men, if you do bad things you get punished. That’s equality. Also i don’t think Turd even knows what the first amendment is lmao. But she used it!
so many weirdos defending her on twitter, it's wild. They think every DV case from now on will result in a defamation court where the abuser automatically wins 🤣
Man here in Belgium the Simp newsbroadcaster was salty bc he found that the jury just picked Depps side bc of the public opinion. I thought did this mf even watch the trial. People that think that women or no matter what group cant do anything wrong really scare me.
Some people have no perspective. As a dude whose been hit with some false accusations of abuse, I can tell you a triumph for the truth is a triumph for humanity.
The most vocal people out there declaring this a big victory are, themselves, victims of domestic abuse. They immediately recognized the brand of manipulative, gaslighting abuse Johnny went through and demanded justice. Even self-identifying feminists are speaking up, rightfully calling out the bullshit third-wave feminists have spewed for years and endorsed (thereby, enabling abusers like Heard to thrive and hide behind social justice movements). I'm no longer a feminist myself (egalitarianism is my jam), but I'm relieved these feminists are finally addressing issues with the MeToo Believe-All-Women narrative.
So no, none of this 'sets back women' since the people celebrating today are those actively fighting for TRUE equality and justice. Depp's win only sets back the LYING, manipulative people out there who want to continue gaming the system.
@@ambatuBUHSURK some people even do it just because she’s attractive, its disgusting
As a male survivor of domestic abuse and SA this case hit a little too close to home for me and I'm very happy that Depp came out on top. To even take the abuser to court is a feat in itself and something I wish I had the strength to do.
It’s a small but important step, stay strong bud
Hope you are okey now buddy
Baby steps brother. Baby steps. Stay strong king.👑
Feat*
@@Featheryfaith7 what is wrong with you
The fact that Johnny wasn’t even at the verdict reading was such a baller move. All he cared about was clearing his name and he knew he succeeded regardless of whether he won or lost. Good for him.
Yeah, regardless of the court verdict. He already won the public court, something that he looks for with this intentionally open court.
Amber team being super embarrassing is cherry on top.
@@KitchenWitchery Irregardless and regardless mean the same thing. English be funky like that. Such as flammable and inflammable.
Edit: spelling
@@CThyran inflammable has etymological coherence. "Inflame" is a word with the "in" with the sense of a metaphorical movement into flames, so "Inflammable" is something that is prone to getting inflamed, or moving into flames. It's unfortunate but perfectly valid that "in" is also used to negate a word fairly often.
"irregardless" is not a case of that, its only in dictionaries because that particular linguistic mistake made it into the populace and therefore was used often enough to replace it's more logical and understandable "regardless". Etymonline has this to say about the etymology of "irregardless":
> probably a blend of irrespective and regardless
It's just a mistake. Don't defend it.
@@CThyran and genius and ingenious
btw, I feel like "inflammable" meaning "flammable" instead of "not flammable" has to have caused many fires
@@anon6975 *populace *its
As a victim of physical and emotional abuse by a female partner I am deeply glad that an innocent man who was wounded and brought low by malice was able to find some relief. I hope he finds happiness in the wake of this abuse.
This case proves that not all men are abusers and that some women can be the abusers too. Way to go to not only depp for remaining chill throughout the trial (and laughs) but to the awesome Camille Vasquez for being such a cool lawyer.
@ForgiveZharion ratio + this + isn’t + Twitter
The fact that some people still believes amber to this day on Twitter is insane tbh
Let's not forget Ben Chew and the rest of the legal team, absolute legends 💪
@ForgiveZharion you got clapped
@@OldFantasy I actually argued with people who defend amber on a Harry Potter group page on Facebook saying depp had anger issues and was why the studios got rid of him as grindelwald and Jack sparrow in Pirates of the Caribbean. Smh. Literally everyone Johnny had worked with has nothing but good things to say about him. Then I realized something, arguing with clueless people on Facebook or Twitter is just a waste of time, like amber wasted Johnny’s.
Love how Amber immediately made this about gender after losing. This really isn't a gender issue at all, she made it one.
The irony of playing the WHAMEN card after being a massive hypocrite female abuser.
It's arguably good even a win for gender as far as males being victims of domestic violence
Yeah so much self entitlement from her. She’s not a poster child for women.
She is an embarrassment to women, and made a mockery of every *actual* victim of DV.
the true irony is that its probably the fact that she kept playing the "im the goddess of all female victims" card that made her lose the case. If she (or her lawyers) had stuck explicitly to the freedom of speech issue and the fact that libel is almost IMPOSSIBLE to prove in america, they would probably have won. But they made it about stuff that's way more subjective, who abused who and "amber represents all women"
I think the best takeaway from this is: Amber Turd isn't a posterchild for anyone except entitled, manipulative abusers. Women who've been abused: come forward.
Men who've been abused: come forward.
Anyone who believes Heard or relates to her: stfu, do us all a favor and hop right out of the gene pool.
One of the therapists in the trial that acted as a witness for Amber, literally framed abuse as men abusing women... That should tell you all you need to know.
that woman was a clown
with a script
that she couldn't even read
to be "fair" that's how the *FBI themselves* define domestic abuse, the Duluth Model. just objectively sexist nonsense tripe, but has been the founding document for law enforcement dealing with domestic situations for decades. Under the duluth model there literally isn't a case where a man can be abused by a woman, that's not a thing that the model handles or allows for.
The fact that she's in an occupation that is supposed to support people regardless of his situation with such as twisted mindset Is quite sickening..
@@jebbush6657 I'm so glad this is finally being talked about by people other than me!!!
@@jebbush6657 This is 100% false. The Duluth model has absolutely nothing to do with the definition if "domestic abuse", and the FBI would rather use "family violence".
I died laughing at 05:25 when you said his text messages "read like some shit you'd find on an obscure tumblr blog from some edgy teenager". Too accurate. 🤣
If Johnny donates that money to the charities Amber “pledged” to donate to, that would be an absolute badass move.
Fuck no he can't donate that shit to the ACLU. The children's hospital should get all that money
@@themoshpit8341 That’s fair. Either way, it would be hilarious.
I think it would be weaponising a charity. Sure they get the money and that’s good but it defeats the point of charity.
@@exoblivione6086 I sure as hell wouldn’t mind if Johnny gave me $15 million dollars to get back at Amber. Weaponize the shit out of me. Lol I see what you mean though.
@@exoblivione6086 not really tho, cus he was gonna donate that 7 million himself, and she stopped him, so it’d really be more like fulfilling something that should have happened a long time ago
“Tell the world Johnny. Tell them Johnny Depp, I, Johnny Depp, a man, I’m a victim of domestic violence and I know it’s a fair fight, and see how many people believe or side with you.” -Amber Heard
He did, the world believed him.
Ratio + yb better + nobody asked + this u 🤓🤓👨🏼💻👨🏼💻👶🏽
Can yall stop spamming
@Don't Read Profle Photo OK then, if you say so
Hearing that recording made me so frustrated, upset and angry. Not just because of her condescending tone of voice, but because of what it represented; girl abusers KNOW that they're more likely to be believed if they deny accusations of abuse. And men? They're less likely to be believed. Or even taken seriously.
That recording made me mad because I have never been believed for my abuse. Especially not the abuse I've suffered at the hands of women.
So for him to actually win this?
Not only am I shocked, but for once, I feel less alone in this issue. Johnny Depp has started a movement for male abuse survivors.
Thank you for having the bravery to tell the world, Depp. First you, and now, hopefully many more.
I am a MAN" who was a victim of domestic violence by a female.... johnny depp is my hero T.T 😢
I've seen a lot of people with the take of "this should never have been televised!"
and I think they're wrong. This had to be televised. The world has to be shown that men could be victims of mental, emotional, and physical abuse at the hands of their domestic partner. For well over decades now, anytime a man would come forward about things like this it was always "I wonder what he did to piss them off" or "deserved". As a survivor of domestic abuse and manipulation myself, it made me very happy to see that male victims can get justice at last.
There should be cameras in every court room (maybe with some exceptions when it involves children in certain types of crimes).
I 100% agree with you. A very close male friend was abused for years by his wife and it still effs with him even after she divorced him a few years back. My father-in-law is also a victim of the same CURRENTLY, and it’s twisted AF.
plus it was very entertaining and had a good ending 10/10 rotten tomato score.
ok
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The only argument I can see for "this is bad for women" is that people who want to cast disbelief and discredit on a woman's abuse claims will point to this case and say "see? Amber Heard lied, so it's not uncommon, you are too, etc"
My thoughts exactly. This isn’t an attack on Johnny Depp or men speaking up about their abuse, it’s about Amber Heard discrediting women. She’s the one at fault for this, we’re mad at HER not anyone else,
I think if someone looks at this case and says “see? You can’t believe women,” they’re most likely already misogynistic and are just looking for any excuse. But I think most rational people understand that this type of thinking is counterintuitive and just stupid.
And the only thing that will lead to is to require evidence for future claims.
That's a GOOD thing, not a bad thing.
@@norwegianflag4365
It's perfectly fine to discredit a claim if, and this is important, *THAT CLAIM HAS NO EVIDENCE BACKING IT UP*
The fact we got to a point where a claim is believed SIMPLY BECAUSE IT CAME FROM A WOMAN without any sort of evidence at all is stupidly disturbing.
@@meyes1098 Go read up on how many rape cases end with the perpetrator being incarcerated.
As a man who was domestically abused I’m so fucking glad that Charlie has a platform because he’s just fuckin shitting out facts, he’s a fucking saint
"shitting out facts" love that
shitting facts 💀
@Wynn Nah
Bro you’re literally a kid you ain’t no man
@Wynn you’ve got to be a troll there’s no way you’re that braindead
I'm glad this was televised. The people who cared about the trial and the outcome could all see the evidence for themselves to form an opinion. I wasn't completely unbiased at the start, but I like to think I was willing to change my mind according to the evidence presented. We at least saw the same information the jury saw, so it's normal we sided with Johnny as the trial continued. Suddenly, there was a mountain of evidence, not proving AH was abused, but proving Johnny was.
Yes, sometimes a victim won't have much photos, videos or recordings proving they were abused. But she did record and photographed A LOT, so in this case, it was unbelievable she wouldn't have evidence of her abuse. And then, the only abuse photos she had turned to be fake or shady.
This isn't a step-back for women. This is a huge win for victims and I hope men see this as a good sign: people CAN believe a man is a victim of DV, you CAN come out with your story, you WILL be heard (pun not intended).
It will likely have a bad impact on women tho. Like Amber lying so damn hard is gonna be used against all public Me Too situations from now on. Just like jessie smollett is for hate crimes.
The jurnos simply had the worst expression of this take, but it WILL have an effect.
@@Lycaon1765 I don't care if that impacted women or not at all , men always get the short end of the stick in court. and women do have more control in the relationship most of the time since they can accuse anyone of SA anytime. and could get the other person arrested regardless of whether the claim was correct or not. this is not equality. for equality to be possible a side has to compromise. if you consider this a loss for women then that's fine , the impact of this trial is not as strong as you think it is. people will still believe women regardless of evidence when it comes to these claims. which I think is not fair and is why everyone regardless of gender should prepare evidence if they're expecting something like this , malicious people will do anything to try to ruin your life.
@@mrbawls8736 go back incel dot me with that shit lmao. "wOmEn HaVe MoRe PoWeR bCuZ fAlSe AcCuSaTiOnS!!!!" If you look at the data, men are more likely to be victims of rape than to be falsely accused. You're just fearmongering.
You should read my comment again, I'm not saying that Depp getting some justice is bad, which seems like an assumption you're making. I'm saying that Amber's whole scheme is bad for victims and her intentional abuse of people's trust is bad for actual victims.
@@Lycaon1765 Yeah, it WILL have an effect.... and it's Amber Heard's fault. People like her using the MeToo movement to hurt her victim and lying about being abused set the movement back, which is why it's absolutely bonkers that so many people still support her. If this is going to have a negative impact on women it's 100% her fault.
I agree 100% with you, this was a win for victims becoming empowered. More people will be strengthened to speak up and put a stop to the abuse because of this. I'm also really glad my favorite pirate is free and clear.
Johnny after winning: "I never cared about the money, I only cared about speaking the truth and letting my kids know the importance of it."
Amber after losing: "Women won't be listened to. He won because he is a man."
I think it's hilarious that she even thinks that way in a country where the court system is *massively* slanted towards women.
@@Kryptic1046 She doesn't think that way, as evidenced by the recording.
She's only trying to build negativity towards Depp, which isn't going to happen.
Even when she lose, she will always be in denial because of how narcisstic she is.
As if anyone has any reason to listen to a word that amber turd says
@@tonydai782 Sadly not true. Many are buying that rethoric. Even the media (as Charlie brought up). Loads of people on twitter are repulsed that she lost.
Some people made up thier mind the second a man got accused. Nothing will make such people change thier mind.
This isn’t a loss for women, this is a loss for abusers.
Which is a win in the first place imo. Abusers don't deserve fame or anything out of ruining others lives by pretending they were the victim the whole time.
I still see people defending Amber Heard and saying this is a huge loss for the MeToo movement. It's just sickening
to be fair, a LOT of people are gonna use Amber Heard to accuse rape/abuse victims of faking it so i can see why they think that.
specially in argentina lmao
For real. Men can be abused and need to be able to speak up as well. If there's any loss for women it's because of Amber's lies and taking advantage of a movement meant to bring abuse to light, not because of her losing. Her lies are a huge slap in the face to women survivors and because of her it could make it more difficult for them to speak up without fear or scrutiny. But at the end of the day I personally see this as a victory for MeToo: a victim of abuse was able to stand up against their abuser and prove to the world how awful they are. That's what the main takeaway from this should be
Because many bad people use MeToo as a weapon and a shield. The verdict is only bad for bad people, for people who would lie about this sort of thing. It is good for everyone else, for all victims, and for all those who support victims.
It shouldn't be a loss for MeToo but a gain. It should break the gender bias when it comes to men survivors of dv. We should celebrate that but people say it's a loss because Amber Heard declared herself the figure head of the movement. I don't know any of you but I don't think someone admitting psychical violence should be the head of MeToo. On top of that from a PR perspective the self declared figure head of MeToo turning out to be a liar and an abuser does create a ground for reactionary people to call every women coming forward with such claims a liar from the get go. I just hope these group of people will be a minority and won't be taken seriously and we will hear out the victims, regardless of gender, coming forward. Not believing everything they say but hearing out.
They don’t care about the actual case. They only care about keeping their activism alive no matter what. It’s disgusting.
It's about time male victims of abuse are getting noticed and are being taken seriously, as one myself and someone who also has a bf who had a female abuser it's nice to know that people are actually gonna take all of us seriously now
@ForgiveZharion boy what
@@meliable its a bot, pay it no mind
@@meliable it's a bot, pay it no mind.
@@Your-Least-Favorite-Stranger wow same comment and same wording one second apart, that's crazy lol.
I agree, Men deserve better ❤️
Abuse has no gender! I’m so glad Johnny won. People like Amber who use the system to their advantage infuriates me. It not only invalidates actual abuse victims but it can ruin a man’s life just based off allegations alone. I’m so glad Johnny is doing better.
6:29 I saw an article where the headline saying that Amber losing negativity affects the black community.
This verdict is a win for all domestic abuse victims, regardless of men or women.
@ForgiveZharion Find your father
@@kurimiaisukurimu find the report button
@@AustynL but why? can't report someone for being a waste man
@@KikiChan_007 there's an option to report them for spam which is exactly what theyre doing
True, although it is a much greater leap forward for male victims, and how awful they’ve been treated.
As a female victim of domestic abuse, Amber reminds me of my abuser to an alarming degree. I was so happy when I found out that Johnny won, since it felt like a win for victims as a whole rather than a men vs women scenario. My abuser got away with everything & left me with PTSD n shit, while he’s out there sniffing daisies & probably abusing more women. There’s literally nothing I can do about it, so I live vicariously through the victories of other abuse survivors. This was a win for everyone who has ever had the misfortune of enduring domestic abuse, regardless of their gender.
I hope your abuser is brought to justice.
I am so sorry you went through DV and I am glad you survived it. I hear you, I believe you and you have been vindicated. Mr. Depp won and with him we did too.
@@Draftsman_of_Doom me too, sadly I think the only way that will happen is if he abuses someone who’s stronger than I was. If any of his future victims contact me, I’ll agree to testify as a witness or something. (It’s weird to be so certain about him having future victims, but that’s most likely what will happen)
@@bimbobeebo7408 Hope it does happen, moral support is the only thing floks on the internet can provide.
I’m so sorry I hope he gets caught that makes me so angry
It's finally over! Victory to Johnny.
At last 🎉
YEAH JACK SPARROW
@@banuner_ *CAPTAIN* Jack Sparrow.
@@Octavia-Prime *CAPTAIN* JOHNNY JACK SPARROW
To Johnny!
Another thing, Jonny’s England case against the Sun, the judges son was an employee. That trial should not of gone through due to bias
Every woman in my life that knows about this case supports Johnny Depp and they all have feminist views, this isn't "men vs women" it's about abusers vs victims and real justice
Exactly
Let's be honest, man, they support Johnny Depp because he's hot, popular, rich, and famous. If he weren't any one of those things he likely wouldn't have their support.
@@jamesrussell2936 ok incel
@@jamesrussell2936 you sound incredibly ignorant and insecure mate. Just delete your comment
@@jamesrussell2936 troll
They claimed every witness there was there for their “15 minutes”
As someone who’s suffered an abusive relationship and a Johnny fan this win does bring me a lot of joy
@ForgiveZharion you just described yourself
wow, 3 bots? that's crazy
@@Moald youtube is a shitshow right now
Best moment was when that one witness clapped back with “the same could be said about you taking amber as a client”
@@Xachremos Yeah, I don’t see how she could accuse him of something she’s likely guilty of doing. Lmao that was dumb
I hope that Depp doesn’t accept pledge payment.
I hope he accepts it and donate it to charity
@@keinen.0824 Donate it to the children's Hospital amber was supposed to donate to
@@maddlepaddle420 yeah that's what I was thinking about.
I'm fucking weak 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Amber Heard 🅥 please guide this man in his ignorance lord, for he knows not what he speaks .
I completely agree with everything you said . I believe that men and women who survived abuse should be treated equally and normalise that speaking up against the abuser and having being abused doesn't mean it's their fault nor does it make the man less of a man or a woman weak
Sorry for my English not a native speaker
no your English is great!
@@bluflame4847 thank you my friend 😃
You've got great english, don't worry about it :D
That's exactly what he's saying.
i wonder if dr phil can follow his own advice if he ever gets hit by a women i don't want to hear any complaining from him
We all knew our boy would have pulled through
This is probably the best news I’ve received ever since my son got his first job.
damn bots
Bots are wilin
The fuck goin on in here
Major dubski for my man Depp out here. (also hi namesake)
She wasn't paying for these lawyers, they were paid by her insurance. Explains a lot.
Proof insurance is a sca--"HEARSAY!" Sorry, Tourette's.
The vice president from the insurance company also went to the trial like every single day lmao
Rather than thinking of yourself on the side of "women" or believing women, or being on the side of men, women who are real abuse survivors should think of themselves as being on the side of truth. Johnny is also on the side of truth. If you are a real abuse survivor, you are on that team.
@ForgiveZharion 🤓
Well said
Better yet, simply don't play identity politics. Don't try and align yourself with group identity, because it's absolutely stupid. You are an individual.
its so stupid bc these people think that supporting amber is some feminist girlboss move which is abhorrent. REAL feminism, striving for equality, is uplifting and supporting male survivors of abuse and assault and bringing awareness of abusers who are women. because men can be victims and women can be perpetrators. thinking all women are innocent is still regressive and illogical
Yeah I’m tired of everything being a gender war.
My dad was a victim of physical and mental abuse by my step mom. I say was because she left the family long ago. For many years, I was very angry bc idk where she’s at I just know she’s out there, living her best life. Unbothered by the fact she hurt my dad and me. Having Johnny win this case brought me some peace. It shows males can also be victims of abuse and it is a very real thing.
What I’ve noticed was a colossal issue on Ambers side was she lied to her own lawyers which made them constantly contradict themselves
Yes, she also contradicted herself before the trial even began when she sued for 100M, double JDs 50M
After she filed divorce she claimed to "not want anything, donating all the $ charity" yet didn't give a dime. Her lawyer fees were 6M dollars and she bought a 1M dollar house in the desert.
She also threw them under the bus, when she at some point implied that it was her lawyers and representatives who published her evidence pictures to the media. Crazy.
I think this is great for women. Amber Heard is being treated like an adult who is responsible for her actions instead of being infantilized and coddled. I think this is a big step towards equality.
Yes, absolutely.
Glad other people see this as well. The goal is equal rights and opportunity. Abolishment of presumption based on gender is a very large part of that.
When there are actual reprecussions for people who lie about this stuff, it makes it easier to believe people when they come forward...When women are given the 'believe all women' treatment with no risk of backlash, it's easy to think they might be making something up...When the truth gets out, it's great for men and women who are good people, and it's bad for men and women who are bad people. Truth is good, no matter which gender it supports.
Absolutely. Women are just as human as men. They can be capable of shitty things too. Gender shouldn’t be a defining factor in whether or not something happened or someone gets jailed or not. What matters are the facts and those should be the only defining factors in a court of law
Anyone can be a victim/abuser
Equality is about taking male victims and female abusers seriously
The people who say it affects female survivors don’t realise how flawed the justice system is in the first place. It doesn’t take away from female survivors, it just supports male survivors
It affects female DV/abuse victims. But not Johnny nor the court,judge and jury are to blame, but Amber Heard with her lying @$$.
EXACTLY
Victims of abuse hardly receive justice no matter their gender. This will be good to raise awareness about male victims, which a lot of people don't consider to exist, but at the same time will reinforce the idea (which is very present) that women make up abuse stories to "get something out of it" while in reality the vast majority of women never actually receive justice because they're not taken seriously or they're too scared to denounce.
@@edp1963 This is the right comment. Anyone who says otherwise has never gone through something as heinous as this, as a woman. If anyone cares to look up how many r@pe kits were left to gather dust and the women never got justice. Many times male r@pists get away with it, far more times than anyone cares to realize. This in turn, however, makes it much harder for the male victims. It just sort of makes everyone take a few steps backwards, minus maybe some of the male DV victims. And that’s MAYBE. Because many ignorant people will use this case in detriment to women only, instead of actually helping male victims. It’s already happening in comment sections about this stuff. They use male victims to minimize female victims and then never care to actually help the male victims
@@edp1963 well that’s not anyones fault but amber heards. Get mad at her for taking abuse for money and attention not Johnny for not sitting there like a good little boy and letting everyone ruin his life over something he didn’t do (not saying that you are making this argument but the idea that it pushes that idea will be used against Johnny and any of his supporters falsely which does even more damage to the situation)
"Trade offer from Johnny Depp:
I receive: 15 million dollars
You receive: the entire world knowing you shit my bed"
This is a victory for those who've been falsely accused, hats off to Johnny's legal team, even if they didn't have the most competent competition
Men* whove been falsely accused.
Name me 1 woman who has ever been falsely accused.
@@abodieqwerty4678 good point although I’m sure it has and does often
Mr. Rottenborn seemed relatively competent, especially during closing statements, and despite Elaine's clowning, I do hope AH's whole legal team is fairly compensated for their sincere efforts to defend an actual monster. They had their work cut out for them when AH is completely oblivious to human functioning and tries to perforn such actions on the witness stand.
@@fissionphoenix4995 I'm sure they'll be pledged their fees by Amber turd.
@@fissionphoenix4995 If youre so sure name me one then.
whenever it comes out that a women abused a man ppl love to say 'it was mutual abuse. theyre both guilty'. but when its the other way around no one ever says that. its beyond frustrating.
Yeah exactly if the roles were reversed here you know that almost no one would be saying “well they’re both sort of bad”, it’d be full support for Amber. If Heard had said all the controversial stuff Johnny said, people would be supporting her not saying it makes her almost as bad
I've seen that a lot on comment sections. It's kinda sad
@@handsomezack2054 Sorry you had to go through that Zack. I hope the future treats you better man.
It was such a smart move to fight to televise this trial. Also, the only thing that was a setback for women was Amber herself. Fake victims make actual victims scared to speak up.
I'm just glad someone understands the difference between a victim complex and actually being abused.
HOW WAS IT A SMART MOVE
Anyone who thinks Amber losing is bad for women has either
A. Never been abused
B. Thinks their trauma empowers/entitles them
My friend speaks very openly about the abuse his boyfriend put him through. His boyfriend beat the shit out of him and burnt his home to the ground and never saw jail time for it. 1) because they are gay men in Eastern KY and 2) he was a male victim and anything physical or emotional that happens at the hand of his partner is automatically his fault. Another male friend of mine was raped at a party (i was not present) and while I was at another party a "friend" of his brought up his assault and got the whole room laughing. I tried to console him afterwards but he was obviously incredibly upset that his SA was openly mocked. This is a win for male victims for sure whose abusers never saw jail time
Oh God, I hope your friend is able to find peace 🙏 that's so incredibly sad
Those are the kind of men that will screech about men's rights but then turn around and mock fellow men instead of offering any kind of support. It's actually so infuriating thank you for reaching out to him none of your friends deserved to go through that
Evil people lurk this world and it is the most utterly disgusting thing. If only there was a way to stop these people before they do these bad things
@@yowshiii3 Exactly. The kind of people who say sexism doesn't exist if a woman is complaining about mistreatment but then they suddenly have tons of shit to say about sexism against men if they see a woman expressing an opinion about something that has nothing to do with sexism against men.
And yet they're the same kind of people who claim toxic masculinity doesn't exist even though toxic masculinity is sexism against men but it just arbitrarily doesn't count if men are doing it.
How awful, I hope your friend is doing better now. I'm glad he has at least one true friend in you!
When I was younger and my parents were still married. I watched for years as my mom drank herself silly and would verbally and physically abuse and assault my dad. She never once got into trouble for it, even if police were called. After years of this, one night when she started in on him drunk as ever, he snapped and beat her up. She called the cops. He went to jail for 3 days and spent months battling it out in court. Ended up with a domestic violence charge. Stay safe kings. It is dangerous out there.
@Jiogurr After court. He had to be on probation for a very long time, had to take anger management counseling classes and report to a judge monthly. They ended up getting a divorce pretty soon after that. I was 15 when they split. I'm 28 now. I still am very close to my dad, me and my brother both are. My mom moved a state away. I might see her once a year. She still drinks like a fish. I just don't have time for that in my life. I still love her, sure, she's my mom. But its not like it should be.
@@taylorcoley6329 I'm glad he left her, it must been hard for him to withstand all that abuse, I don't blame him for snapping, unfortunately female abusers want that to happen to hurt others more.
Sounds like she needed consulting and probation instead.
Hope you, him, your brother are doing good.
@@taylorcoley6329 Tragic that you had to grow up seeing all that. Alcoholics deserve nothing but to suffer and die alone, even moreso if they abuse others. Disgusting that he had to take "anger management" courses for giving her a taste of her own medicine, like any normal person wouldn't reach a breaking point? When she's clearly the one with anger issues.
That's sad. It's annoying how courts default to favoring women over men whenever there's a lack of evidence.
When male abusers get told "You could've fought back", this is why they couldn't have.
Johnny seems like a nice guy. all the times he's gone to childrens hospitals dressed as jack sparrow are just heartwarming.
Ya I remember watching that. Idc of they were for promotion or anything he was able to make those children genuinely smile
The Godfather of his daughter is a known rapist and abuser. He defended Roman Polanski who is a pedophile rapist. He uses strong misogynistic language. He mentions killing and raping someone. He has had a violent history dating back decades. There is more but feel free to look it up yourself.
he’s going back to court again for assault btw
Haha he was definitely hammered all of those times.
Johnny Depp is definitely a blessing of a human being and the fact that he made children who didn't know how long they had left be able to smile and pay for his cab drivers cancer treatment and even through all the bullshit Amber Turd put him through and he's still a kindhearted individual shows that humanity and compassion are still alive and this not only puts a smile on my face knowing he finally got justice that he deserved for a long time but it also warms my heart.
I was one of those people on the fence for a while, because every time I did try to discuss it with people, no one would present me with any of the actual facts from the trial. They would just say they don’t trust Amber, and since no one ever presented evidence I assumed there wasn’t anything clear on either side. Once I actually saw the trial though, it was absolutely clear that Johnny was not an abuser by any means. His win is a step forward for all survivors of abuse.
I told my friend that Johnny won and he said “she’s only worth 2mil, he won’t be getting much”
It’s bigger than the money, it’s the message. I’m not saying Johnny was 100% in the right, but it’s time to recognize that men can fall victims to domestic violence too. My hearts with anyone that had to go through it ❤️
@ForgiveZharion bro you still out here commenting this 😂
@@SiegeOnConsole it's a bot
I mean Johnny doesn't want her life she has a daughter so she needs to move on and do better.
Yess! This is not a "loss for women", this is a win for men and justice. Which we should all celebrate. If anything this goes to show that the justice system doesn't favour women, giving female victims of domestic abuse MORE credibility.
Thank you for this sound take. As a female survivor of DV this is a win for ALL survivors!
this is a win for anyone who’s domestically abused, men or women. neither gender should be discredited or put down, it should be the abusers. i’m so glad this case has bought light to abuse. hopefully all victims can receive the justice they deserve.
@@madeleine2278 not really, the justice system leans in support of women way more of men, it’s refreshing to a man win a abuse trail, finally. Big win for men today
@@Chadius_Thundercock sure maybe that’s the case! but in reality 99% of abuse cases don’t even make it to court, and justice isn’t served at all. i know so many abusers who still live a normal life, hopefully this case will bring light to abuse for everyone, and allow more cases to be taken seriously. i respect your opinion though :)
This is a HUGEEE deal and step in the right direction. This should and NEEDS to be a humbling situation for everyone
It doesn’t hurt women. It just shows that the legal system in this case worked as it should, that lying isn’t going to work like it has before in the past. Women don’t and shouldn’t just get a free pass . Equal is equal
Unless you lie about abuse, this event shouldn’t effect or frighten you.
I'd also add that three of the true heroes in the trial were all amazing women! Judge A (Marine Corps veteran), Camille Vasquez, and Dr. Shannon Curry (psychologist) were all phenomenal! This is actually a huge win for women just on that note alone, along with everything else you've said.
word.
people like to paint this is a men vs women thing when the people that's dunking on Amber in courts are women. Johnny just there to tell his side of the story.
Real liberals will be celebrating this, not the extremist lefties defending Amber Turd
The amount of badass strong women on Johnny's legal team was amazing
@@neku2741 ikr lmao that's all ppl talk about these days like wtf...
I've been abused by a female partner several times in the past, in several ways, and demonised for finally defending myself while being ridiculed for not defending myself earlier AND saying that a woman can rape a man because of a man's fear what will happen if he defends himself. Almost everyone at some point turned against me from the moment I stood up for myself. Society didn't believe me, but did spit on me, all while she just walked. I'm not going to pretend I didn't sink to depths I'm not proud of during those months of near constant abuse on physical, mental, and emotional levels. But I'm also not proud of beating up some of my school bullies (one in a literal blind rage, and when I came to my senses held down by 3 teachers I panicked believing for a few seconds I had murdered him), still I know I had to to escape from them as well. I didn't do anything remotely as severe in that terrible relationship though. But I feel like the 'real' victim became the victor here, despite also believing neither were saints. I'll drink a megapint of orange juice tomorrow to that.
I hear you. There is nothing more shattering than gathering the courage to tell people you trust about a woman raping you, only to be called "lucky".
I know I'm a nobody on the internet but I hope you're doing better now
I hope the ending of this trial gives you hope for the future
As a women I think all abuser who happen to be female should be treated like one who happens to be male
Hope life treats you better
I'm glad you mentioned these things about men and domestic abuse, and what horrifying things people say about it. As a male victim of domestic abuse and sexual abuse, it's touching to hear from others validating it as a thing and hope more people acknowledge it, and hopefully other male victims out there feel less discouraged to open up and seek help
Yeah that stuff can ruin anyone’s life all the same, no matter what gender or sexuality you are. We’re all people and we all hurt the same.
@@chewy99. tell that to fucking parliament, they seem to like ignoring male mental health and abuse victims.
It’s all a scheme for clout because they are both getting old and trying to stay relevant
Johnny Depp's stance from the beginning was awesome.
"I'm a terrible, crazy, toxic person. My life is a mess, and I'm all over the map. But I'm not a wife beater."
Heck yes. This is not men v. women. This is absolutely abused v. abuser.
@ForgiveZharion never gets old
Absolutely!
It’s more of a left vs right. This is bidens fault for causing division and ruining everything
Well said!
Imagine thinking a man can be abused by a woman. Any strong man would fight back. What is happening to this country?