I remember showing my uncle, who is a construction manager, one of the fake primitive building videos and him saying, “Imagine my construction company spending hundreds of dollars on raw materials and machinery to make cement when we could have just mixed water and dirt together.”
>Luffys fruit is a overpowered ridiculous mythical zoan >mikasa kisses erens decapitated head >Denji kills makima and cooks her >saitama time travels back for whatever reason (webcomic is better)
As someone who's had to dig up several large stumps, the fact that we're supposed to believe that the one guy digs that absolutely massive hole in a few hours is ridiculous. It's taken me longer to dig up SMALL stumps
any person who did dig knows that you can dig like 20-30 shovels then you need to rest a few minutes, otherwise you wont be able to work. And 20 shovels is like nothing compared to half a pool of space they dig xD
I would be to, like Charlie is a source you can trust MOST of the time If Logan Paul called it fake I’d most likely would think every single video is real even knowing it’s not Sources matter but both Sunny and Charlie should’ve been taken at least semi seriously
I'm astonished people didn't know they're completely fake. Everyone who ever dug a hole in their life knows that it takes a lot of time and effort even with modern shovels/spades. You can't just have two people excavate metric tons of dirt by poking the ground with a stick.
@@randomcrusader5632 no you are gullible you don’t get to say “we” to divert blame. And also being gullible and not thinking about things is exactly what is wrong with the world right now to extend this example a little further.
@@RevolutionaryGuitar Dude, falling for entertainment like primitive swimming pools doesn't mean they fall for other things. I am 100% sure you've been duped many times by something, probably even yesterday, but you're likely not going to divulge that. We are all human. A commentor believing something as trivial as some clickbait video about dirt pools isn't the same as being unknowledgeable about space, about medicine, about climate change, about political issues, etc. You're just being very self-righteous more than you are being helpful.
WHAT?!? You mean to tell me that two dudes in the jungle with a pointy stick didn't actually build a 5 star waterpark with working plumbing in a few days?
I work in the British Army, Royal Engineers. During phase 2 training, part of it was learning about trenching. Digging a 1.7 metre deep, 5 metre long and roughly 0.5 metre wide trench took the better part of an afternoon. Keep in mind this was with around 10 people all working on it, switching in and out, etc. When I saw the videos of just two men excavating vast volumes of ground with the bare minimum of tools, I immediately called bullshit. Sometimes you don't need video evidence, tracks, or stuff like that. Just go and dig a hole yourself.
And you used modern equipment to do it. They would take at least 10 times it took your 10 people to do the same work doing it morning and afternoon and that doesn't take into account food of any kind. Digging is hard af and the amount of calories and tools breaking under primitive conditions would slow everything down slightly still. So, yea, if you ever dug without machines you know how much faster they are. It's stupid how much faster they are.
I spent 3 days in infantry FTX digging a single Foxhole with gun 3 of weapon’s team. Gathering cover and concealment, replacing dead foliage and of course digging and shaping the hole to a fucking 240. Yeah you can spot the bs from a mile away in these videos
This is why the majority of digging you see in John Plant's Primitive Technology channel are only minimal, and if he's digging big holes, it's mainly to just get clay for brick/pottery work
He looks like that guy too. yeah XD but i think its just a case of when people have the balls to look like charlie dose, its a clear sign they alls have the brains to be someone you need listen too. "they hated him for he spoke the truth"
I love primitive technology. Been watching that dude for years. The thing is... no-one would ever call him fake. He's not doing ridiculous buildings. The whole point is that he wants to take a break from modern life sometimes and live like primitive humans for a bit. Not to mention he shows pretty much everything he does.
And by the way, cement (a core component of concrete) is made from limestone and clay. Clay is a rather common soil type (not that the stuff he was digging up from the river seemed like clay...), but just clay is not enough to make cement, let alone concrete. Interestingly you can build somewhat permanent housing out of clay. Early civilizations did so a LOT. Primitive Technology also makes some great stuff out of clay. But yeah, I saw like one of those fake channels, I believe it was some video where they made a pool, and I instantly blocked it and decided one "life of primitive humans" channel was enough for me.
To the people who think that digging a 10 ft hole is possible in a few hours with sticks and bare hands should try it, you'll find yourself giving up before even reaching 5 feet by the end of the day. 😂
if it was easy to dig 10 ft hole then serial killers would dig 30 ft holes and they'd never find the bodies. But it's not easy. They usually give up and settle for 3-4 footer makeshift grave which is easily detected by dogs. I mean, they are pretty determined to not get caught right? So why they dig so shallow graves? It's because it's fucking hard to do without mechanical tools. If you tried to dig a hole you propably realize that sooner or later you hit a rock. Then a bigger rock. Then even bigger rock. Eventually you are running into rocks that are 2 feet in diameter and weigh about as much as yourself. You're not getting past that without tools.
No kidding. I was helping my uncle and cousin in digging a long, 1 meter deep hole to my grandma's house for the purpose of implementing a water system which came from a borehole and it took us HOURS just to get to the house, and additional hours to get the right depth. We were using SHOVELS and we were 3 people (me, my brother and cousin, my uncle was doing some drilling by the house). All the wet clay that started appearing at the 40cm mark alone was just HELL.
Just ask anyone who served in military and ask how much time they spend digging body height trenches. A nice and not tiring at all experience lmao just like in minecraft
Oh for sure. I build different things for a living, i work in a carpentry shop type deal and the way they show how they do certain things or how things end up looking when they're done it's pretty obvious to tell that they needed power tools or machinery of some sort to get it done. There's just no way you could pull some of these builds off with nothing but your hands, the natural stuff around you and the sheer man power. No way lol
Dude, it never even clicked in my head that it was supposed to be cement. I thought were just using mud to have a liquid diet for better sealing or some shit. Always sat there and thought to myself "real shame that it's all gonna wash away the first time it rains."
@@inateinate well exactly lol you can't use regular mud or whatever to build anything solid that's gonna last. Just the whole way that they do things doesn't make any sense if you're familiar with building things and even just novice construction work.
Yeah the primitive technology dude's always been upfront how absurdly long it takes to make the simple things he does, and the historical examples he bases his stuff on, in the captions and in his descriptions.
I think the big clue is that his projects are all fairly simple and non-contrived, he's not going out and building an entire waterpark out in the jungle somewhere, it's all little shelters and huts and stuff.
I remember back in mid-2020 I was looking in the comments in one of these channels and I saw someone say "ah yes, step one, buy bricks from your local brick store" and the creator of the video REPLIED to it saying "no, we had a tutorial for brick making!" THE AUDACITY.
@@FreddyKruegerTheDreamDemonMaking bricks is hard using primitive inefficient furnaces. Even primitive technology had quite the trouble making only a few.
To be fair there really isn't much stopping everyone from having decent homes for relatively cheap except that a bunch of rich landlords and corporations just buy up all the houses and sell them at a much higher rate. Also, the fact that architects don't often build low-income housing as they can just build expensive homes and make more money.
@@eitantal726 "Easy" isn't exactly the right word to use. The supposed (and fake) method requires a massive amount of physical effort. Effort that very VERY few people are willing to give.
Putting aside the whole primitive building drama; this situation with Charlie initially being ignored really shows the power of a constructed and scripted video, more specifically a video essay opposed to an unformulated rant. When a UA-camr puts their argument in a format like sunny does it becomes alot easier to buy into. Really shows how the landscape of the Internet shifts depending on how certain opinions are put across in certain ways.
@@Bettersucksaul got an email that says it's from an insider Wouldn't even surprise me if the email is fake as well just to finally call out the fakes xD
A little different of a situation, but kind of like what happened to Leafy from Idubbbz content cop vid. A well put together video can do a lot of damage.
Contrary to most comments I actually didnt know these videos were fake, most of the time i would see these videos at like 3:40am while being half-sleep and being like "yeah thats a cool pool" without thinking alot about it
Some of them are real. If a dude is just building a hut and a fire maybe a shallow well, it's probably real. If a dude made a whole aquaducted system into a giant pool, it was bullshit lol
Charlie radiates "disappointed but caring parent" energy right here, I found out about this controversy just recently but I wasn't deep enough into it to really care though witnessing this I-told-you-so moment is like being called in by your mom before you know what your in trouble for
Imagine just grabbing a handful of mud from a river, taking it to sun and expecting concrete strength. Our ancestors would have advanced much faster if they had such magic.
@9:24 - concrete is a mix of aggregate (sand and gravel) with a binder (cement). Cement is actually pretty difficult to make in large quantities, because it's typically slaked lime (calcium hydroxide), which is made by burning and wetting limestone or sail/mollusk shells. You can also get very small amounds of it from the ashes of burnt smallbrush, but it's very innefficient because you have to burn it twice.
Tbh, you'd have a lot better luck trying to make a buildimg out of adobe than fired bricks and just using the same mixture minus the straw as your mortar.
I heard that there are companies in China which have emptied Indian beaches to make it, and while this could be completely made up, it alone suggests how concrete is becoming harder and harder to make from the rarity of sand Is this a thing? Is the sand needed for concrete being used up?
For anyone interested, there's a castle being built in France called Guedelon. It's being built with only medieval tools. It's the largest archaeological experiment happening, going on for...about a decade? Maybe longer. There's a series posted on here called Secrets of the Castle. Pretty much everything is done as it would have been done in medieval times, though there are some exceptions--namely modern health and safety standards.
@@upendownlinker It's due to be completed in 2023, and is now making money from tourist visits. From what I just Google'd, it makes about five million annually. It's a project that appears to fund itself.
the funniest part about all of this is when you think about what actually happened here, basically a group of guys dug a bunch of holes using modern equipment and hundreds of millions of people were like "wow, amazing!"
It’s hilarious because the dirt they’re “digging” is always perfectly soft like it’s had a tiller used on it. Using hilarious shovels and not spades. And yet it’s so light and easy to do. Then I can’t believe they believe these people find crystal clear water and somehow drain it across a flat terrain with bamboo. Anyone who’s ever dug a big hole knows it’s BS
Anyone who’s even tried to dig a fucking hole will know how difficult it is to dig a hole, it’s surprisingly difficult to do so on ground worthy for construction
We have to dig 5 feet post holes with 12 inch diameter at my job and sometimes one hole will take me 30 minutes with a shovel, post hole digger, and spud bar. I don’t think they are digging a whole underground mansion in a weekend lmao
Watching Charlie get more and more flabbergasted by no one believing him when he said it is the definition of “the bee’s knees” Very enjoyable, quality content
9:10 You can, kind of! Cob is a mixture of sand, clay and straw (basically adobe with a different consistency) that's a pretty good insulator and can be molded into shapes (search 'cob house' for some YT examples). But in the end it's still basically mud, so 1. you need to coat it with plaster or it'll crumble after the first rain, and 2. it can't withstand a lot of weight so most of the larger structures you see in the fake channels would be a no go
Poor people build their houses like that in the rural Andes without plaster or anything. That's a dry climate nothing like the SEA jungle where this is built (never mind using it for a pool FILLED WITH WATER), and it still doesn't last as long as a brick house. There are also mud constructions in places like Mali and Iran that have stood over 1000 years, I don't know what additional steps they used, but those are also very dry places.
I feel genuinely sorry for Charlie being laughed at and people not listening until someone else says it. It's obvious he's hurt. Love you Charlie, I believed you!
It’s insane Twitchchat would bite Charlie’s head off about this. He’s not a stupid guy and they look incredibly fake. It’s the same sort of fake vibe as pouring sprite in a hole and pulling out a boa constrictor.
I mean, are you surprised? There are normal people, there are stupid, and then there are Charlie's fans that repeat the exact same jokes for years and steal it from each other. It wouldn't be exaggeration to say they're nearly brainless, so there's a huge gap between Charlie and what fans he has. I guess it's just a curse of being one of the most popular youtubers/twitch streamers.
It's not as bad as the day his chat kept defending a channel that was making videos with hamster, putting them in potentially dangerous situations and extremely stressful ones, charlie pointed the ridiculous cut the channel made to make them not look so bad but the idiots used completely different hamsters to show that the hamster that fell from the bridge actually fell on a soft surface, I really can't believe anyone would look at those clips and be like "this seems legit", and even be angry towards someone that is pointing a possible animal abuse situation
Remember, just because someone doesn’t make a whole well-scripted speech about something doesn’t mean they’re wrong. A minute long rant can be just as effective as a 30-minute video. Edit: What I mean by this is as long as they have evidence, it doesn’t matter how it’s presented.
@@Inconzii exactly. The difference between Charlie’s rant and Sunny’s video is that one gave a structured argument as to why they’re right while the other is less of that and more of an intuition
I actually thought everyone already knew these channels were fake. Even if you ignore the actual proofs, like the drone footage, or the excavator, there's no fucking way 2 dudes would build those mansions out of mud, and just a stick.
I never questioned it. I have never dug a hole of any size (city slicker) so I have no concept of how long digging takes. I also thought those primitive digging videos took place over weeks or even months
Man, I'm glad primitive technology is legit, he was the first channel I ever watched, and I loved it. I hated all the copycat channels that followed. I liked the channels that focus on the primitive methods, it's interesting to see how things like Bricks, and Blacksmithing were done to make the tools we now use today. It makes you appreciate how hard work it was back then for something so simple
Shout out to the moist man himself. He is a very smart guy and he constantly admits when he was wrong and continues to grow. He knew these were fake but he still is able to admit he didn't see some of the inconsistencies shown in sunny's video. Takes in perspective while also being realistic. Hard to come by.
I can only imagine how hurt his feelings were when no one believed him until someone else pointed out the same thing with the same evidence. And yet, he remained forgiveful. Honestly, I'd rant viciously at my audience if I was in his position even if it isn't nice.
I know i would though. The champ goes through all that and even basic people would know 2x2 is 4. But no his audiance is "smart" and says that its actually 5 even if on screen evidence says it isn't. I mean i like some channels but even i can smell most basic crap that they make and connect the dots that maybe, just maybe they aren't exatcly good content creator
I like hearing that Charlie had his feelings hurt for no reason other than it’s good to express that openly. I also think it’s insane how you could look at more than one of these videos with insane excavation and say it was done by like 3 guys. Nutty people on these websites man.
I think its more people wanting to believe in the extraordinary than being actually stupid ( at least a few of them haha) My wife and I sat down and watched one of these building videos dismissing them as phony, however the creators do complete some of the segments of the video in convincing ways and with convincing cuts my wife said that the cement making process was fake and I claimed "wow thats the part you thought was fake ? what about the rest of it if anything that was the most realistic part they used to make adobo bricks in ancient sumer!" but I digress my point is theres so much unbelivable shit that goes on in the world and that people ARE legitamely capable of the this just seems relatively possible even if its absurd once analyzed more in depth.
Twitch chat is collectively retarded and people say the absolute most mind-numbingly stupid shit there unironically and with a straight face. Something about it attracts the most smooth-brained shoe-size-IQ takes.
You don't need a 12 minute analysis video for this. You could tell it's fake the second you see their upload frequency. You can't physically get that much work done in a timeframe like that without using modern machinery off-screen.
As someone who is currently working to build a cabin with his dad, and we had to buy a $10k backhoe which has already broken and cost us $4k to buy a flatbed to haul it out for repairs, yeah, you aren't building this shit by hand with two guys.
@@barnabyjones5161 theyre building a cabin which means they already have a home and plus they probably own the land that the cabin in being built on which- taxes,, im sure they’re not hurting for money.
Thanks. The archaeologist in me was screaming every time they just neatly excavated huge chunks of earth in seemingly just a few hours, because I've done enough back-breaking shovelling to know how long that shit takes, even with a large group and a digger on site.
Anyone who has had to dig holes in or near forests would know instantly that was fake without any other evidence required. What happens is that you hit large rocks and roots every few inches which forces you to stop and hack away at the roots or dig around the rock and drag it out. Sometimes it is a very large rock and it is a massive pain to get it out. What is even worse is when there are roots entangled into large rocks and it is just a nightmare. You want to dig a two foot hole? Prepare to spend hours.
People were calling this on Twitter many moons ago. It’s very frustrating that they destroy the environment for fake videos. They could be more responsible about it.
I feel bad for Charlie, his chat is so mean to him sometimes. He looked and sounded really hurt when he realized that no one believed him till someone else said something about it. He had the same points and the same evidence aswell as Sunny. :/
People decided to believe him now because the video convinced a large amount of people which further questions themselves if they were really wrong despite the irrefutable evidence Charlie showed before the video got posted.
They didn't believe Charlie at first because he was explaining it on stream, instead of them finding a well edited video that spoonfeeds them information that Charlie already gave to them at the time they wanted too.
The fact that "Primitive Technology" is as beloved as he is, is the only thing that gives me a glimpse of hope for humanity. He started it all and always stayed true to himself. I'm so glad he came back.
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as a child who grew up trying to build concrete walls with a wheelbarrow and homemade mud, I would've immediately debunked these videos if I ever watched them
Somehow I already felt something was fishy about two guys being able to build all these structures in the span of a few days. Digging is suprisingly hard so I at least assumed they had an entire team to help them out.
tbh it says a lot about how people will trust FIGURES over SOURCES. a guy most people consider to be 'entertaining' is shot down and told he doesnt know what hes talking about. . . until somebody people consider 'informative' comes along and says the exact same shit with the exact same credible sources. blind faith at its unfinest 😩 only thing worse is when '''informative''' people say wrong shit that nobody questions lol
*_It's always has been, since the start of Civilization._* We will rather listen to some Scum in Power, Celebrities, Kings, Politicians, Prime Ministers, Presidents, Emperor, and Famous retarded Brats than some nobody, unpopular, peasants or "irrelevant" people. Edit: And these people claim their selves to be "free" yet here they are...
I’d say it also depends on how you spread that information to other people. I think that no matter how good your arguments are you’ll always lose some credibility on live streams because of more chaotic arguments, less time to think, no script etc.
Story of my life. Even with the best sources and presentation at my disposal, my parents wouldn't listen to me because apparently I'm a stupid kid, but will believe someone their age or older who says _the exact same thing_ I'm trying to tell them. Every time I call them out on this has been met with defeaning silence.
@in all of life there is rhythm Nowadays, I just keep my mouth shut because it's a waste of time and energy. When my parents ask "why didn't you tell us this?" I answer, "you wouldn't believe me anyway, because according to you I'm a dumb little kid who doesn't know what he's talking about."
I knew those videos were fake because some of those videos claimed that they were doing these projects in California... even though they are clearly in a jungle/rainforest. For those who might not know, there are no jungles in California. Southern California is dry as a bone, Central California is flat grassland and Northern California is temperate forest.
Yeah, I was looking at the about page on one of the channels the other day and they claimed they were building their projects in a, "privately owned jungle in California". I just laughed.
The closest thing that you can even get to having jungles in California is the jungle biomes in zoos, even then there's still no way that those videos were real even in the slightest
Looks like most fake primitive videos are take place somewhere in Southeast Asia, India, or some other region that has many rainforests, because it often shows the native plants from that region
You know how Archeologists were like creaming their pants over Aztec ruins, imagine decades later the confusion of those Archeologists seeing random Primitive building shit.
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well back then we had old rock tablets with little to no info, but now we got better ways to keep data stored. I'm sure in the future they will access to ancient videos that explain the tiny buildings
I didn’t watch Charlie’s stream but kudos to him! Charlie’s always so straightforward with his opinions and never afraid of speaking what he believes and apologizing when needed. Great video!
I feel like if they were actually honest about how they build stuff, I’d actually enjoy their content. Nothing wrong with going out with your boys and some industrial equipment and making some cool shit. But lying about it isn’t cool.
I remember watching charlie debunk it on stream and acc being mind blown by the damages left by these people; the half empty water holes & other structures that were left behind & were death traps to wildlife in the area.
I watched one of these back when they were starting to get popular, I remember seeing them literally using cable ties after pretending to lash them together with vines. On the concrete point, Primitive Technology himself actually made concrete pretty recently using snail shells. Which is a mutli-day and fairly dangerous process (he gave himself minor chemical burns from the calcium hydroxide he made).
I remember watching a video about Primitive Technology and how he was on his way to being a classic UA-cam success story but then it all got ruined by these copy cat channels who weren't even original enough to come up with their own names. They swooped in and crushed all his channel growth by stealing views because their names were similar and the algorithm sent searchers to their channels and not his, and people just abandoned him to watch these posers who use huge teams and construction equipment because their projects were more elaborate and they use clickbait tactics. The Primitive Technology guy is the GOAT.
Primitive Technology is the OG! Watched him for years. If you're new to his channel make sure to have CC turned on. He doesn't speak and explains his methods/thoughts via captions.
I’ve watched my father dig a small trench with just a shovel so he could plant bamboo properly. I definitely didn’t believe them being able to do that with such small tools in a small amount of time.
@@justsomeplantcells- it tasting nice doesn't make it any less invasive ........ maybe im using te wrong word we do live in snowflakeland .... the plant dont stop reproducing and takes over the entire garden rendering the whole thing useless unless you have a pet panda which youd better not have lol
Bro those trenches they're digging are EXTREMELY dangerous. You can't just dig vertical walls into the dirt. Huge risk of collapse and potential injury.
Also I could definitely see some animal or person running into the hole and breaking their neck at the bottom. A random deep hole in the middle of the woods isn’t exactly the safest thing haha.
@@LetsGoFlyers2011 imagine if we could figure out how much malaria has been spread as a result of these videos, eh? How many mosquitos were spawned in the stagnant water and spread disease to other people?
@@ebob0531 in the debunking video they show that the vast majority of them are never used after the video is made and they just sit and rot. Would definitely be a bad pitfall trap for animals even if people still used them.
Nobody mentioned one thing. 1m³ soil wheigst between 1.3 and 1,8 tons. The soil in the video is dense. Lets say 1.6t. 5:22 This small hole is at least 9 m³. Thats are 14,4 t. Thats 360 whellbarrows. Diged with bare hands. The soil moved somewhere and piled up. The bulk density is much lower so they had to pike up a mountain somewhere. And they even make much larger holes. Such a project would takes years for one guy. Never ever.
I was pretty ignorant and gullible enough to believe that a bunch of these videos were legitimately real, it’s a good thing that there’s a handful of primitive building channels left that stay legitimate.
Wow, the primitive construction channels are so talented that they managed to build a working excavator out of nothing but sticks, stones, and some rocks! Crazy stuff, I always knew they were legit but didn't expect them to go so far to make their creations.
Jesus Christ: *tells everyone that he is the son of God but no one believed him until it was too late Charlie: *tells everyone that most primitive building videos are fake but no one believed him until it was too late *Coincidence? I think not!*
Same for me, after discovering him yt started to show me a lot of the other rip offs in the recommendations (many from the fake ones) but there was something off that made me don't even thinking about watching them and I stayed loyal to the original one.
@@elbolainas4174 I am the same; the copycats started being recommended to me and I immediately was put off by how they seemed focussed on impressing us by making showy but impractical structures instead of educating us on how people throughout history made a living for themselves without access to modern tools and conveniences. They seem to love building ‘primitive’ swimming pools, but all I can think of when they do is the number of mosquitoes would spawn from a pool of standing freshwater in a tropical climate.
When Sunnys video dropped I remember wondering why he made it. The primitive channels are so obviously fake it would be like exposing the WWE. Sure some people in the comments think it’s legit, but then again some people watch and try life hack or obviously fake cooking videos so no surprises there. I’m amazed how many people thought these were real and fought Charlie on this.
Most of Charlie's viewers (especially on streams) are not American. They come from demographics that constantly make the most bizarre and blatantly fake things go viral. Largely south-east asians and spanish speaking demographics. And if you call their beloved content fake they will freak out on you.
@@polelix1023 its not that it blew up .. charlie is just comfy where he is right now and gotten lazy the only reason he gave this any attention is because it was on sunny v2 channel ....... its all he does no is wait for the next sunny video or hop on dumb trends that he said he wouldn't touch like techno ( he spoke about the same type of shit with Sean's dad )
I really wish they wouldn’t leave the structures to fall apart. They’re so cool even if the videos are fake. Like if you’re gonna destroy the environment to make something cool, at least take care of it.
The economics of south-east asia are quite different. The big bucks is made by pumping out one video after the other with millions of views. Who cares about the environment? And as you can tell just by how quickly these structures deteriorate, no one *wants* to have them. Those "pools" aren't pools - they're stagnant bodies of water with no cleaning, circulation or a microbiome that keeps it clean. It will turn into a horrible swamp almost immediately.
I’m amazed how anyone could ever think this was real. Do people no longer do any outdoors activity? Even digging a small ditch will absolutely kill you.
Most of Charlie's viewers come from other countries like the Philippines. They loooove their primitive building channels and yes they are the kind of people who also believe everything they see and hear online. Remember all those dumb videos where people would put some animal in a hole, then pretend like pouring stuff into it attracted the animal so they can grab it with their hands and pull it out??? That kind of content was extremely viral for a long time despite being sooo blatantly fake and stupid. Doesn't matter though certain demographics eat that stuff up and if you so much as call it fake, like charlie did, they'll get really triggered.
@@Josh-gb9ml Bruh, I'm from the Philippines. Not all of us believe everything that's on the internet. The first time our family watched this primitive build stuff, we knew they were using cement and other construction equipment. But as with all other countries on this planet, not just mine, it's the gullible ones who seem to be the most vocal whenever others tell them that they're wrong.
@@Josh-gb9ml i don't think u know what "triggered" means, brother. also i'm pretty sure most of charlie's viewers are american but go off trying to call everyone from southeast asia fucking stupid lmao
I mean you are asking a bunch of 0nline strangers instead of talking to realnpeolle in a pub or in your own house so .............. stfu about not doing things outside or building bollocks 🙄 😒 😑 😐 😤 🤔 🙄 😒 😑 😐 😤 🤔 🙄
I remember showing my uncle, who is a construction manager, one of the fake primitive building videos and him saying, “Imagine my construction company spending hundreds of dollars on raw materials and machinery to make cement when we could have just mixed water and dirt together.”
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I'm one of the idiots that believed them lol I figured they like purposefully chose sand and clay to build in
I haven't even watched them yet and now I'm getting spoilers up the ass.
Yea I knew they were fake as hell too from being a construction worker long ago. As well as those saving animals cats/dogs videos, fake as hell
Using mud to make a house is not the fake part of the videos, man.
Charlies biggest mistake was not using big red arrows to point out the excavator tracks.
>Luffys fruit is a overpowered ridiculous mythical zoan
>mikasa kisses erens decapitated head
>Denji kills makima and cooks her
>saitama time travels back for whatever reason (webcomic is better)
@@centurymemes1208 Are you having a stroke
@@centurymemes1208 wrong video
@@centurymemes1208 too bad,i don't watch any of those
He should of had red circles around them while the vine boom sound plays
As someone who's had to dig up several large stumps, the fact that we're supposed to believe that the one guy digs that absolutely massive hole in a few hours is ridiculous. It's taken me longer to dig up SMALL stumps
Honestly that's what made me realize the videos were fake. Digging huge holes in solid ground is not easy lol.
@@SeeJay804 yeah and they’re in the middle of buttfuck that sand/dirt is hard as rock
@@SeeJay804 with sticks too
how about shovels? how long did it took you to dig a massive hole with it?
any person who did dig knows that you can dig like 20-30 shovels then you need to rest a few minutes, otherwise you wont be able to work. And 20 shovels is like nothing compared to half a pool of space they dig xD
I love how genuinely annoyed Charlie was getting about people calling him out but not Sunny 😂
Felt bad when he said it hurt his feelings lol
@@captainkong *ominous music*
I agree.
@@HopeyDiamond yep I do to
I would be to, like Charlie is a source you can trust MOST of the time
If Logan Paul called it fake I’d most likely would think every single video is real even knowing it’s not
Sources matter but both Sunny and Charlie should’ve been taken at least semi seriously
@@captainkongour generation is brainwashed
I like that Charlie isn't afraid to call his chat out when they're being dumb
well his twitch chat is super dumb. us on youtube are basically geniuses in comparison
@@tonypringles2285 not surprised...
His chat is dumb af on every video
@@tonypringles2285 the bot above you is the reason why we’re often brought down
@@tonypringles2285 twitch chat in general is dumb
I feel lied to, I feel betrayed, I can't believe they didn't make a mega-mansion made out of shit and dirt in record time
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“They can’t keep getting away with this” - Charlie having a mental break down as chat won’t listen
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Charlie really is like jesus, they hated him for telling the truth.
Charlie really lol 😂
every now and then
And he has long hair
And he’s really short
Same with addy
"I'm 5' 6", I'm not that big a man"
honestly powerful words
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I refuse to believe he's 5'6" he doesn't look that short
@@Kismitane have you seen him standing up?
I thought he was 5' 3", did he grow?
@@Kismitane he is 100%
I'm astonished people didn't know they're completely fake. Everyone who ever dug a hole in their life knows that it takes a lot of time and effort even with modern shovels/spades.
You can't just have two people excavate metric tons of dirt by poking the ground with a stick.
This is a fantastic argument for getting kids playing outside. 5 minute crafts seems to prey on some of this too (like Jenna Marbles's jeans chair).
My skin was coming off just by digging few inches into the ground. And they made a whole swimming pool with sticks 😹😹
We’re gullible okay, and they’re entertaining videos, you just don’t think it through and don’t think that someone would fake something like that
@@randomcrusader5632 no you are gullible you don’t get to say “we” to divert blame. And also being gullible and not thinking about things is exactly what is wrong with the world right now to extend this example a little further.
@@RevolutionaryGuitar Dude, falling for entertainment like primitive swimming pools doesn't mean they fall for other things. I am 100% sure you've been duped many times by something, probably even yesterday, but you're likely not going to divulge that.
We are all human. A commentor believing something as trivial as some clickbait video about dirt pools isn't the same as being unknowledgeable about space, about medicine, about climate change, about political issues, etc. You're just being very self-righteous more than you are being helpful.
"naturally occurring jungle tire tracks" exactly they're the tracks of the elusive jungle truck
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Like the Harry Potter car, but instead of fighting spiders it makes mini mansions.
Looks like you’ve got the UA-cam bot pirañas biting your shoe laces
Sometimes, we gain entertainment from dense people.
WHAT?!? You mean to tell me that two dudes in the jungle with a pointy stick didn't actually build a 5 star waterpark with working plumbing in a few days?
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@@EnergeticSpark63 hi
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@@Mr-Nobody084 hi
I work in the British Army, Royal Engineers. During phase 2 training, part of it was learning about trenching. Digging a 1.7 metre deep, 5 metre long and roughly 0.5 metre wide trench took the better part of an afternoon. Keep in mind this was with around 10 people all working on it, switching in and out, etc. When I saw the videos of just two men excavating vast volumes of ground with the bare minimum of tools, I immediately called bullshit. Sometimes you don't need video evidence, tracks, or stuff like that. Just go and dig a hole yourself.
And you used modern equipment to do it. They would take at least 10 times it took your 10 people to do the same work doing it morning and afternoon and that doesn't take into account food of any kind. Digging is hard af and the amount of calories and tools breaking under primitive conditions would slow everything down slightly still.
So, yea, if you ever dug without machines you know how much faster they are. It's stupid how much faster they are.
I spent 3 days in infantry FTX digging a single Foxhole with gun 3 of weapon’s team. Gathering cover and concealment, replacing dead foliage and of course digging and shaping the hole to a fucking 240. Yeah you can spot the bs from a mile away in these videos
Nice pfp :)
This is why the majority of digging you see in John Plant's Primitive Technology channel are only minimal, and if he's digging big holes, it's mainly to just get clay for brick/pottery work
That's the point... Most people will never dog one
Charlie: Primitive videos are fake.
Chat: **X to doubt**
SunnyV2: Primitive videos are fake.
Chat: *You’re right, King.*
@Kavetion I'm better than you
@Kavetion L+ratio+the hood watches Charlie
@Kavetion My grandma is better than you
@@mtithewoodentank4817 idk who you are, but you are right..
@Don't Read My Profile Photo dont worry, I wasnt planning to
Charlie is like the one guy in a horror movie who's telling the truth, but no one believes him.
like Cassandra from the Iliad
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He looks like that guy too.
yeah XD but i think its just a case of when people have the balls to look like charlie dose, its a clear sign they alls have the brains to be someone you need listen too.
"they hated him for he spoke the truth"
Amogus in a nutshell
@@alex.g7317 sus
I love primitive technology. Been watching that dude for years. The thing is... no-one would ever call him fake. He's not doing ridiculous buildings. The whole point is that he wants to take a break from modern life sometimes and live like primitive humans for a bit. Not to mention he shows pretty much everything he does.
And by the way, cement (a core component of concrete) is made from limestone and clay. Clay is a rather common soil type (not that the stuff he was digging up from the river seemed like clay...), but just clay is not enough to make cement, let alone concrete. Interestingly you can build somewhat permanent housing out of clay. Early civilizations did so a LOT. Primitive Technology also makes some great stuff out of clay.
But yeah, I saw like one of those fake channels, I believe it was some video where they made a pool, and I instantly blocked it and decided one "life of primitive humans" channel was enough for me.
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@@mr.dumbum8209 no one is gonna agree when all you say is just no, 12 year old mindset
@@exilemorin04 whining all you wants...
To the people who think that digging a 10 ft hole is possible in a few hours with sticks and bare hands should try it, you'll find yourself giving up before even reaching 5 feet by the end of the day. 😂
if it was easy to dig 10 ft hole then serial killers would dig 30 ft holes and they'd never find the bodies. But it's not easy. They usually give up and settle for 3-4 footer makeshift grave which is easily detected by dogs. I mean, they are pretty determined to not get caught right? So why they dig so shallow graves? It's because it's fucking hard to do without mechanical tools.
If you tried to dig a hole you propably realize that sooner or later you hit a rock. Then a bigger rock. Then even bigger rock. Eventually you are running into rocks that are 2 feet in diameter and weigh about as much as yourself. You're not getting past that without tools.
No kidding. I was helping my uncle and cousin in digging a long, 1 meter deep hole to my grandma's house for the purpose of implementing a water system which came from a borehole and it took us HOURS just to get to the house, and additional hours to get the right depth. We were using SHOVELS and we were 3 people (me, my brother and cousin, my uncle was doing some drilling by the house). All the wet clay that started appearing at the 40cm mark alone was just HELL.
Some people just never read ‘holes’ when they were younger
You won’t reach 5 feet that’s a fact. It’s hilarious how twitch chat has never dug a hole which says something in itself.
Just ask anyone who served in military and ask how much time they spend digging body height trenches. A nice and not tiring at all experience lmao just like in minecraft
I feel like most people who know how cement is made have noticed the fakery going on with the bigger builds a long time ago.
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Oh for sure. I build different things for a living, i work in a carpentry shop type deal and the way they show how they do certain things or how things end up looking when they're done it's pretty obvious to tell that they needed power tools or machinery of some sort to get it done. There's just no way you could pull some of these builds off with nothing but your hands, the natural stuff around you and the sheer man power. No way lol
Dude, it never even clicked in my head that it was supposed to be cement. I thought were just using mud to have a liquid diet for better sealing or some shit. Always sat there and thought to myself "real shame that it's all gonna wash away the first time it rains."
@@inateinate well exactly lol you can't use regular mud or whatever to build anything solid that's gonna last. Just the whole way that they do things doesn't make any sense if you're familiar with building things and even just novice construction work.
You don't even need to know how cement is made. I feel the people who didn't see the fakery are likely children.
when you said "but primitive technology is real" i breathed a sigh of relief
Yeah the primitive technology dude's always been upfront how absurdly long it takes to make the simple things he does, and the historical examples he bases his stuff on, in the captions and in his descriptions.
He's the og. He was the first guy to ever do it. Every other channel is a fake clone.
I think the big clue is that his projects are all fairly simple and non-contrived, he's not going out and building an entire waterpark out in the jungle somewhere, it's all little shelters and huts and stuff.
yea
That was the only one I'd heard of, so I assumed that channel was the one being exposed.
I remember back in mid-2020 I was looking in the comments in one of these channels and I saw someone say "ah yes, step one, buy bricks from your local brick store" and the creator of the video REPLIED to it saying "no, we had a tutorial for brick making!" THE AUDACITY.
Well I mean you can make your own bricks lmao it's not impossible
@@FreddyKruegerTheDreamDemonMaking bricks is hard using primitive inefficient furnaces. Even primitive technology had quite the trouble making only a few.
that might actually be the original dude. like the guy that was completely honest. if you watched the sunnyv2 video, but i forgot his name
How to know it's fake: If it was so easy to build luxurious homes like that, Everyone would have one.
To be fair there really isn't much stopping everyone from having decent homes for relatively cheap except that a bunch of rich landlords and corporations just buy up all the houses and sell them at a much higher rate. Also, the fact that architects don't often build low-income housing as they can just build expensive homes and make more money.
@@liammccaslin7911 That's true only in cities. It's not true in countries with empty, spacious, wilderness
@@liammccaslin7911 Here's a stick, a bucket, a stone, and an acre in the Amazonian Jungle. Write me back when you built your swimming pool.
@@eitantal726 "Easy" isn't exactly the right word to use. The supposed (and fake) method requires a massive amount of physical effort. Effort that very VERY few people are willing to give.
@@onemuststand7353 Yes, it's easy. the tikitikis get the job done over a freakin' weekend. is ONE weekend of hard work too much to ask?!
Putting aside the whole primitive building drama; this situation with Charlie initially being ignored really shows the power of a constructed and scripted video, more specifically a video essay opposed to an unformulated rant. When a UA-camr puts their argument in a format like sunny does it becomes alot easier to buy into. Really shows how the landscape of the Internet shifts depending on how certain opinions are put across in certain ways.
Exactly
Well it also doesn't help that Sunny got an insider to confirm what he's saying
@@Bettersucksaul got an email that says it's from an insider
Wouldn't even surprise me if the email is fake as well just to finally call out the fakes xD
@@mr420quickscops2 im fine with that kind of fake
A little different of a situation, but kind of like what happened to Leafy from Idubbbz content cop vid. A well put together video can do a lot of damage.
Contrary to most comments I actually didnt know these videos were fake, most of the time i would see these videos at like 3:40am while being half-sleep and being like "yeah thats a cool pool" without thinking alot about it
yeah I never rly thought abt it either, i was just like “ppl make cool build wif sticc” and didn’t think much of it
The first time I seen these guys was when my Dad showed them to me, he's not too familiar with internet culture so he believed them and so did I.
Factz G I didn't think ppl thought that deep about em. I see the video I like the video then I move on idgaf if they staying innat shit or not😂
Factz G I didn't think ppl thought that deep about em. I see the video I like the video then I move on idgaf if they staying innat shit or not😂
Some of them are real. If a dude is just building a hut and a fire maybe a shallow well, it's probably real. If a dude made a whole aquaducted system into a giant pool, it was bullshit lol
“I accept your apology, but also I told you so” best summary for this whole thing
Charlie doesn't just look like Jesus, he gets treated like him too.
💀 you know what happens next
@@steakfilly5199 crucify him on a Moby Huge
@@steakfilly5199 we sure do
"Why you booing me?! I'm RIGHT!"
@@steakfilly5199
Whip him
They hated Charlie, because he told them the truth.
Charlie radiates "disappointed but caring parent" energy right here, I found out about this controversy just recently but I wasn't deep enough into it to really care though witnessing this I-told-you-so moment is like being called in by your mom before you know what your in trouble for
@Water Bottle yessss, and the only way to hold on to your sanity is to sit there basking in your innocence lmao
"Suck the dirtiest part of my ass" is the only thing that doesn't feel like something a disappointed parent would say.
Ah yes, the ancient technique of gathering concrete. Not even the Aztecs were advanced enough, to blend the perfect mix of coarse Earth.
Imagine just grabbing a handful of mud from a river, taking it to sun and expecting concrete strength. Our ancestors would have advanced much faster if they had such magic.
@@Instabruh.User.. 🤨
@@Instabruh.User.. that's a pretty wierd hobby
A comment that only has 3 bots!?!?!
*Surprised pikachu face*
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@9:24 - concrete is a mix of aggregate (sand and gravel) with a binder (cement). Cement is actually pretty difficult to make in large quantities, because it's typically slaked lime (calcium hydroxide), which is made by burning and wetting limestone or sail/mollusk shells. You can also get very small amounds of it from the ashes of burnt smallbrush, but it's very innefficient because you have to burn it twice.
Tbh, you'd have a lot better luck trying to make a buildimg out of adobe than fired bricks and just using the same mixture minus the straw as your mortar.
I heard that there are companies in China which have emptied Indian beaches to make it, and while this could be completely made up, it alone suggests how concrete is becoming harder and harder to make from the rarity of sand
Is this a thing? Is the sand needed for concrete being used up?
For anyone interested, there's a castle being built in France called Guedelon. It's being built with only medieval tools. It's the largest archaeological experiment happening, going on for...about a decade? Maybe longer. There's a series posted on here called Secrets of the Castle. Pretty much everything is done as it would have been done in medieval times, though there are some exceptions--namely modern health and safety standards.
>modern health and safety standards
>no slavery
Thats never going to get finished and its going to cost much more than it would in medieval times.
@@upendownlinker It's due to be completed in 2023, and is now making money from tourist visits. From what I just Google'd, it makes about five million annually. It's a project that appears to fund itself.
@@dragonicmicrophone6594 How does it fund itself?
@@concept5631 tourist visits. i'm assuming they charge an entrance fee
@@defiantender Interesting
Most people rejected his message.
“These primitive building videos are fake!”
“Shut up”, “false prophet”
They hated Jesus for he told them the truth.
lmao
This should have far more likes than it does 😂
An actually funny Charlie is Jesus comment
Most people rejected his message.
Lmao
the funniest part about all of this is when you think about what actually happened here, basically a group of guys dug a bunch of holes using modern equipment and hundreds of millions of people were like "wow, amazing!"
It’s hilarious because the dirt they’re “digging” is always perfectly soft like it’s had a tiller used on it. Using hilarious shovels and not spades. And yet it’s so light and easy to do. Then I can’t believe they believe these people find crystal clear water and somehow drain it across a flat terrain with bamboo. Anyone who’s ever dug a big hole knows it’s BS
Anyone who's dug even a relatively medium sized hole can say the same
Anyone who’s even tried to dig a fucking hole will know how difficult it is to dig a hole, it’s surprisingly difficult to do so on ground worthy for construction
as someone who was That Kid that dug holes in the dirt with sticks during recess I can confirm that it is absolutely not that easy
We need kids to dig more holes. Not for construction etc. just for fun.
We have to dig 5 feet post holes with 12 inch diameter at my job and sometimes one hole will take me 30 minutes with a shovel, post hole digger, and spud bar. I don’t think they are digging a whole underground mansion in a weekend lmao
The fact that ppl still try to defend obviously fake videos and channels will always continue to surprise me
People will defend LITERALLY ANYTHING
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"I accept your apology, but I told you so."
That's actually a really wholesome 'Gotcha!' Moment.
I love that "told ya" feeling, and it makes me happy when someone gets to have that moment and makes a video of it. JUSTICE!
8:18 Don't mind it, it's just a wild CAT in it's natural habitat.
Lmao, took me 5 seconds to realise the joke lool
HA🤣
good joke, +1
We call this creature the Kubota, don't get too close
Watching Charlie get more and more flabbergasted by no one believing him when he said it is the definition of “the bee’s knees”
Very enjoyable, quality content
Ah humanity. Truly an enigma that cannot be resolved.
I blame that one scientist that made an entire generation dumber.
@Kavetion mid
I love watching any chance of a streamer shitting on their chat because fuck chatters deserve every bit of shit they get Lmao
@Kavetion cringe, prove it.
Is that fucking NFT?
I love how Charlie is more upset about the fact that no one believd him rather than fake videos.
Well yeah I'd be upset too if I knew I was right and everyone was still fighting me over being wrong
I’d imagine that feels like saying the right answer out loud in class and someone else says it but louder and they get the credit for answering it.
It’s the Ti
@@marissamendoza8128 so relatable!
They called him a madman.
9:10 You can, kind of! Cob is a mixture of sand, clay and straw (basically adobe with a different consistency) that's a pretty good insulator and can be molded into shapes (search 'cob house' for some YT examples). But in the end it's still basically mud, so 1. you need to coat it with plaster or it'll crumble after the first rain, and 2. it can't withstand a lot of weight so most of the larger structures you see in the fake channels would be a no go
Poor people build their houses like that in the rural Andes without plaster or anything. That's a dry climate nothing like the SEA jungle where this is built (never mind using it for a pool FILLED WITH WATER), and it still doesn't last as long as a brick house. There are also mud constructions in places like Mali and Iran that have stood over 1000 years, I don't know what additional steps they used, but those are also very dry places.
Isn’t Cob a bit more complex than sand claw and straw?
From my history class ten years ago I thought there were some cow shit and other stuff in there
I know its a typo but I'm dying "claw and straw"
"That is actually hurtful. That actually hurts my fucking feelings."
Poor Charlie, man. The chat gone and done him dirty.
I feel genuinely sorry for Charlie being laughed at and people not listening until someone else says it. It's obvious he's hurt. Love you Charlie, I believed you!
I have a feeling that we're experiencing what happened to Jesus but modern
Twitch chat always brain dead cancer
@@upscale9109 A virtual crucifixion.
@@upscale9109 He does look a lot like him...
Common sense the curse of justified assholory. What is logical?
It’s insane Twitchchat would bite Charlie’s head off about this. He’s not a stupid guy and they look incredibly fake. It’s the same sort of fake vibe as pouring sprite in a hole and pulling out a boa constrictor.
He deserves a better chat
I mean, are you surprised? There are normal people, there are stupid, and then there are Charlie's fans that repeat the exact same jokes for years and steal it from each other. It wouldn't be exaggeration to say they're nearly brainless, so there's a huge gap between Charlie and what fans he has. I guess it's just a curse of being one of the most popular youtubers/twitch streamers.
i dont think anybody actually takes anything said in twitch chat seriously, i dont think even the chatters themselves take themselves seriously lol
It's not as bad as the day his chat kept defending a channel that was making videos with hamster, putting them in potentially dangerous situations and extremely stressful ones, charlie pointed the ridiculous cut the channel made to make them not look so bad but the idiots used completely different hamsters to show that the hamster that fell from the bridge actually fell on a soft surface, I really can't believe anyone would look at those clips and be like "this seems legit", and even be angry towards someone that is pointing a possible animal abuse situation
Its not insane have you seen twitch chat? They get jebaited by the most obvious shit
Moral of the story: more people will believe you if you have an AUSTRALIAN (not British) accent
Moral of lol 😂
Australian, not British.
@@venger910 Alright, let's say UK citizen.
@@_V.Va_
No. No we aren't.
@@_V.Va_ That's like saying American are UK.
Remember, just because someone doesn’t make a whole well-scripted speech about something doesn’t mean they’re wrong. A minute long rant can be just as effective as a 30-minute video.
Edit: What I mean by this is as long as they have evidence, it doesn’t matter how it’s presented.
...Ia that a dig?
It literally didn’t though.
His one minute rant convinced no one whereas a “30 minute video” convinced basically everyone.
@@Inconzii exactly. The difference between Charlie’s rant and Sunny’s video is that one gave a structured argument as to why they’re right while the other is less of that and more of an intuition
You shouldn’t really even believe someone just going on a rant, sure they could be right but they could just as easily be wrong
@@jounamo6035
Probably one of those that believed it was real
I actually thought everyone already knew these channels were fake.
Even if you ignore the actual proofs, like the drone footage, or the excavator, there's no fucking way 2 dudes would build those mansions out of mud, and just a stick.
some people are really dumb and a lot of people spend most of their free time with their brain turned off. I don't understand it.
I never questioned it. I have never dug a hole of any size (city slicker) so I have no concept of how long digging takes. I also thought those primitive digging videos took place over weeks or even months
@@AdamOwenBrowning They probably played minecraft and assumed that everything in that game is like in real life
The usual assumption is that all of those more impressive videos take like months of hard labour
i just took it at face value and was entertained
Man, I'm glad primitive technology is legit, he was the first channel I ever watched, and I loved it. I hated all the copycat channels that followed. I liked the channels that focus on the primitive methods, it's interesting to see how things like Bricks, and Blacksmithing were done to make the tools we now use today. It makes you appreciate how hard work it was back then for something so simple
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Less than a minute and more fucking bots. Jesus Christ their getting out of hand
only a minute and so many bots already
jesus the bots
I'm glad it's the only one i know and he is legit lol
The amount of voice cracks in this video shows how passionate Charlie is 😂
Shout out to the moist man himself. He is a very smart guy and he constantly admits when he was wrong and continues to grow. He knew these were fake but he still is able to admit he didn't see some of the inconsistencies shown in sunny's video. Takes in perspective while also being realistic. Hard to come by.
I can only imagine how hurt his feelings were when no one believed him until someone else pointed out the same thing with the same evidence. And yet, he remained forgiveful. Honestly, I'd rant viciously at my audience if I was in his position even if it isn't nice.
get off ur knees dude
I know i would though. The champ goes through all that and even basic people would know 2x2 is 4. But no his audiance is "smart" and says that its actually 5 even if on screen evidence says it isn't. I mean i like some channels but even i can smell most basic crap that they make and connect the dots that maybe, just maybe they aren't exatcly good content creator
I think Charlie is done growing ;)
@Kavetion Ur mum
I wasn't even there during Charlie's initial rant but I also felt immense satisfaction that he was proven right lmao
same lolll
I like how people were just like Charlie is wrong
Later
Sunny: So you see there fake
Everybody: WOAH I NEVER KNEW
and then they're in these comments going "Hah I knew all along"
@@KalinTheZola 💀💀
@@Hikikomoriiiii omroi
A whole internet audience even more Beta than XQC...
Funny this is the same observation Charlie makes like ten times in the video
8:00 I could hear charlie fighting back tears, man was punching pillows over this xD
I like hearing that Charlie had his feelings hurt for no reason other than it’s good to express that openly. I also think it’s insane how you could look at more than one of these videos with insane excavation and say it was done by like 3 guys. Nutty people on these websites man.
I think its more people wanting to believe in the extraordinary than being actually stupid ( at least a few of them haha) My wife and I sat down and watched one of these building videos dismissing them as phony, however the creators do complete some of the segments of the video in convincing ways and with convincing cuts my wife said that the cement making process was fake and I claimed "wow thats the part you thought was fake ? what about the rest of it if anything that was the most realistic part they used to make adobo bricks in ancient sumer!" but I digress my point is theres so much unbelivable shit that goes on in the world and that people ARE legitamely capable of the this just seems relatively possible even if its absurd once analyzed more in depth.
Twitch chat is collectively retarded and people say the absolute most mind-numbingly stupid shit there unironically and with a straight face. Something about it attracts the most smooth-brained shoe-size-IQ takes.
I believed him when he said it because I also thought it was fake lol.
Weiner sauce
You don't need a 12 minute analysis video for this. You could tell it's fake the second you see their upload frequency. You can't physically get that much work done in a timeframe like that without using modern machinery off-screen.
Exactly. That frequency would kill you with the digging alone. And that doesn't account for food.
True, the same applied to those fake animal rescue channels
True bro
Yeah but you're assuming that the average internet user has a shred of fucking common sense or ability to come to a conclusion logically.
@@Manigeitora You really ask this kind of question where people doesn't even have a grain of respect when someone famous died
As someone who is currently working to build a cabin with his dad, and we had to buy a $10k backhoe which has already broken and cost us $4k to buy a flatbed to haul it out for repairs, yeah, you aren't building this shit by hand with two guys.
You could have rented a backhoe for 10% of that. Shame on you.
@@barnabyjones5161 theyre building a cabin which means they already have a home and plus they probably own the land that the cabin in being built on which- taxes,, im sure they’re not hurting for money.
@@barnabyjones5161 and can't you pay for a flatbed just to get the backhoe, not buy one outright?
I always wondered what happened to all the buildings they create.... Like they're always in the middle of the forest building giant homes/pools
the pools must be such a safety hazard for wildlife..
They're just left to disintegrate, sadly.
Thanks. The archaeologist in me was screaming every time they just neatly excavated huge chunks of earth in seemingly just a few hours, because I've done enough back-breaking shovelling to know how long that shit takes, even with a large group and a digger on site.
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Anyone who has had to dig holes in or near forests would know instantly that was fake without any other evidence required. What happens is that you hit large rocks and roots every few inches which forces you to stop and hack away at the roots or dig around the rock and drag it out. Sometimes it is a very large rock and it is a massive pain to get it out. What is even worse is when there are roots entangled into large rocks and it is just a nightmare. You want to dig a two foot hole? Prepare to spend hours.
People were calling this on Twitter many moons ago. It’s very frustrating that they destroy the environment for fake videos. They could be more responsible about it.
Or just don't do that stuff at all.
You really one of those closet queens who cries about the environment lol
they could frame it as being obviously fake because they’re still entertaining. Like a disclaimer or something. Id watch it if they did that.
@@Chevsilverado they obviously doing this for money. movies are fake too
If they were responsible they wouldn't be making fake videos
I feel bad for Charlie, his chat is so mean to him sometimes. He looked and sounded really hurt when he realized that no one believed him till someone else said something about it. He had the same points and the same evidence aswell as Sunny. :/
Its twitch chat. They arent know as being smart lol
I wouldn't really think of it much 99% of twitch chat are just a bunch bumbling idiots who are biased and naive.
@@roarbahamut9866 What can you expect? I’m pretty sure 95% haven’t touched grass. (That’s why they thought the videos where real until later debunked)
Sunny was just pointing out the obvious
People decided to believe him now because the video convinced a large amount of people which further questions themselves if they were really wrong despite the irrefutable evidence Charlie showed before the video got posted.
I'll admit. I never caught onto the "concrete from the water" part.
I just assumed it was clay they were using
They didn't believe Charlie at first because he was explaining it on stream, instead of them finding a well edited video that spoonfeeds them information that Charlie already gave to them at the time they wanted too.
Charlie should've made a video ngl
The fact that "Primitive Technology" is as beloved as he is, is the only thing that gives me a glimpse of hope for humanity. He started it all and always stayed true to himself. I'm so glad he came back.
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8:00 I could actually hear his heart breaking as everyone hops on the bandwagon after laughing at moist sitting there in a taxi.
@Kavetion who asked??
Nah he always sounds like that.
@Kavetion Amogus sussy getting trolled.
THE VOICE CRACK
For the tire track thing, of course the video is fake but I could see why people would think it was naturally formed (specifically the 8:10 part).
Funny part is these builds look so damn good they could’ve showed the process WITH the construction vehicles and it would’ve been a good video
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the fuck is this bot that replied
By the looks of things, he seems to have kicked the scammer wasp nest
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6:16 made me feel bad and I wasnt even there for the stream.. poor charlie
That’s just twitch chat being dumb like always
as a child who grew up trying to build concrete walls with a wheelbarrow and homemade mud, I would've immediately debunked these videos if I ever watched them
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Somehow I already felt something was fishy about two guys being able to build all these structures in the span of a few days. Digging is suprisingly hard so I at least assumed they had an entire team to help them out.
tbh it says a lot about how people will trust FIGURES over SOURCES. a guy most people consider to be 'entertaining' is shot down and told he doesnt know what hes talking about. . . until somebody people consider 'informative' comes along and says the exact same shit with the exact same credible sources. blind faith at its unfinest 😩 only thing worse is when '''informative''' people say wrong shit that nobody questions lol
*_It's always has been, since the start of Civilization._*
We will rather listen to some Scum in Power, Celebrities, Kings, Politicians, Prime Ministers, Presidents, Emperor, and Famous retarded Brats than some nobody, unpopular, peasants or "irrelevant" people.
Edit: And these people claim their selves to be "free" yet here they are...
I’d say it also depends on how you spread that information to other people. I think that no matter how good your arguments are you’ll always lose some credibility on live streams because of more chaotic arguments, less time to think, no script etc.
Story of my life. Even with the best sources and presentation at my disposal, my parents wouldn't listen to me because apparently I'm a stupid kid, but will believe someone their age or older who says _the exact same thing_ I'm trying to tell them. Every time I call them out on this has been met with defeaning silence.
@in all of life there is rhythm Nowadays, I just keep my mouth shut because it's a waste of time and energy. When my parents ask "why didn't you tell us this?" I answer, "you wouldn't believe me anyway, because according to you I'm a dumb little kid who doesn't know what he's talking about."
there's no such thing as a credible source, all sources are the same including my crazy uncle Dave
I knew those videos were fake because some of those videos claimed that they were doing these projects in California... even though they are clearly in a jungle/rainforest. For those who might not know, there are no jungles in California. Southern California is dry as a bone, Central California is flat grassland and Northern California is temperate forest.
Exactly, the climate doesn't match.
Yeah, I was looking at the about page on one of the channels the other day and they claimed they were building their projects in a, "privately owned jungle in California".
I just laughed.
The closest thing that you can even get to having jungles in California is the jungle biomes in zoos, even then there's still no way that those videos were real even in the slightest
Looks like most fake primitive videos are take place somewhere in Southeast Asia, India, or some other region that has many rainforests, because it often shows the native plants from that region
Why would they lie about being in California? That's a bit random isn't it?
Moist: "These are fake"
Chat: "No they aren't"
Sunny: "These are fake"
Chat: "Genius"
copied 🤓
Imagine not having your eyes checked. You are complaining over nothing.
Imagine being upset that people call out your unoriginal comment.
You guys shouldn't have access to UA-cam. What are you even talking about?
Bro i has the same joke Idea when I watched the video,doubt he went out of his way to copy a comment
When I was watching the fake ones I got tired of seeing them because they were also building stupid and useless structures.
You know how Archeologists were like creaming their pants over Aztec ruins, imagine decades later the confusion of those Archeologists seeing random Primitive building shit.
The structures are completely gone after a few months, the are just dirt
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well back then we had old rock tablets with little to no info, but now we got better ways to keep data stored. I'm sure in the future they will access to ancient videos that explain the tiny buildings
@@Instabruh.User.. wtf
@@garfieldgamer3079 It's a bot. A fucked up one at that.
Charlie's joke about not needing to be the bigger man because he's 5'6 is brilliant
Holy shit I'm taller than him? I'm like 17 tho
Same tho
@@RebbecaRat I'm 14 and taller than him aswell, but he is still, the bigger man
@@occidereme8467 oh yeah definitely
@@RebbecaRat you kids are brain dead from the internet, Charlie is very short for a man you all aren’t special calm down.
I didn’t watch Charlie’s stream but kudos to him! Charlie’s always so straightforward with his opinions and never afraid of speaking what he believes and apologizing when needed. Great video!
@Jeff Talbot him being him is quality content
You could copy and paste this to every video of his and it would still be true👍
2:25 this is the most I've seen him offended ever
I feel like if they were actually honest about how they build stuff, I’d actually enjoy their content. Nothing wrong with going out with your boys and some industrial equipment and making some cool shit. But lying about it isn’t cool.
exactly
edit christ these bots have taken a liking to you
just like dream situation
except they leave everythingbehind
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I remember watching charlie debunk it on stream and acc being mind blown by the damages left by these people; the half empty water holes & other structures that were left behind & were death traps to wildlife in the area.
I watched one of these back when they were starting to get popular, I remember seeing them literally using cable ties after pretending to lash them together with vines.
On the concrete point, Primitive Technology himself actually made concrete pretty recently using snail shells. Which is a mutli-day and fairly dangerous process (he gave himself minor chemical burns from the calcium hydroxide he made).
The lye burns he got from handling mortar show this stuff is not to be messed with.
Nah man why didn't he just fish some cinderblock goop out a river smh
@@paulsd9255 it also PROVES it is real in some cases
“They were fake?”
“Of COURSE they were fake!!!” -me whenever someone brings this up. They’re fun to watch either way lmao
I remember watching a video about Primitive Technology and how he was on his way to being a classic UA-cam success story but then it all got ruined by these copy cat channels who weren't even original enough to come up with their own names. They swooped in and crushed all his channel growth by stealing views because their names were similar and the algorithm sent searchers to their channels and not his, and people just abandoned him to watch these posers who use huge teams and construction equipment because their projects were more elaborate and they use clickbait tactics. The Primitive Technology guy is the GOAT.
The primitive technology guy got me interested in experimental archaeology. Love that guy.
also because primitive tech uploads once in a year while the other channels pump out shit videos for the algorithm
He began to build civilization, but different kinds of people came in and ruined it.
5:32 that’s just the naturally occuring jungle man in a white tshirt, they couldn’t possible be fake
It’s really satisfying to watch a creator like Charlie not be afraid to tell off his own fanbase when he is justified in doing so
We need more of this
Blunt transparency is a very respectable quality to be found in a person.
80 % of his fan base are cry babies
@@KingTheGermanShepherd You most of all
Why would he be afraid of that? Makes no sense.
Primitive Technology is the OG! Watched him for years. If you're new to his channel make sure to have CC turned on. He doesn't speak and explains his methods/thoughts via captions.
I’ve watched my father dig a small trench with just a shovel so he could plant bamboo properly. I definitely didn’t believe them being able to do that with such small tools in a small amount of time.
Good lord why would anyone ever plant bamboo on purpose?
@Rei irl its a shitty plant thats super invasive
@@kylesmith4341 I thought the exact same thing when I read it😭
@@OFFICIALLYBENPEARCE bamboo shoots is great food
@@justsomeplantcells- it tasting nice doesn't make it any less invasive ........ maybe im using te wrong word we do live in snowflakeland .... the plant dont stop reproducing and takes over the entire garden rendering the whole thing useless unless you have a pet panda which youd better not have lol
Bro those trenches they're digging are EXTREMELY dangerous. You can't just dig vertical walls into the dirt. Huge risk of collapse and potential injury.
Also I could definitely see some animal or person running into the hole and breaking their neck at the bottom.
A random deep hole in the middle of the woods isn’t exactly the safest thing haha.
literally number one rule in minecraft bro
Bullshit
Good. Natural selection. Shouldn't be running in the middle of the woods anyway.@@Chevsilverado
@@wolfetteplays8894 ok buddy, drink your prune juice
The worst consequence of these videos is the devastation on the environment, I imagine it can be quite a drowning hazard for wildlife.
Also, I couldn't imagine the amount of mosquitos that multiple pools of stagnant water, in the middle of a jungle, would produce.
@@LetsGoFlyers2011 imagine if we could figure out how much malaria has been spread as a result of these videos, eh? How many mosquitos were spawned in the stagnant water and spread disease to other people?
They are actually doing real builds for people I'm pretty sure
@@ebob0531 in the debunking video they show that the vast majority of them are never used after the video is made and they just sit and rot. Would definitely be a bad pitfall trap for animals even if people still used them.
A drowning hazard for wildlife? Just stop.
Nobody mentioned one thing. 1m³ soil wheigst between 1.3 and 1,8 tons. The soil in the video is dense. Lets say 1.6t. 5:22 This small hole is at least 9 m³. Thats are 14,4 t. Thats 360 whellbarrows. Diged with bare hands. The soil moved somewhere and piled up. The bulk density is much lower so they had to pike up a mountain somewhere. And they even make much larger holes. Such a project would takes years for one guy. Never ever.
I like watching the videos of the guys “surviving”. I love how people completely disregard the fact that they have to,like, take care of the cameras
they are using bamboo electricity 🤫
I was pretty ignorant and gullible enough to believe that a bunch of these videos were legitimately real, it’s a good thing that there’s a handful of primitive building channels left that stay legitimate.
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On god
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First one I watched had me impressed/skeptical until they made lime green paint by boiling random leaves in a pot lmao.
Still struggling without your bots I see💀
Moral of the story: never question Charlie’s wisdom
“Death is nothing compared to vindication” - Konrad Curze
Wow, the primitive construction channels are so talented that they managed to build a working excavator out of nothing but sticks, stones, and some rocks! Crazy stuff, I always knew they were legit but didn't expect them to go so far to make their creations.
How did it was powered tho?
Hamster wheel?
yes.
Reminds me of the Dave the Barbarian scene. "Thinking quickly, Dave made a megaphone out of a squirrel, some rope and a megaphone."
“They hated Jesus because he told them the truth.”
@@averagebriarmain name something you hate which doesn't exist
@@ryanmccue8180 Happiness
@@Veskhai I hope you can feel better you can attain the happiness you seek
@Gobi the sandwing techincally there is bacteria in space so if you go down to defition aliens do exist
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Jesus Christ: *tells everyone that he is the son of God but no one believed him until it was too late
Charlie: *tells everyone that most primitive building videos are fake but no one believed him until it was too late
*Coincidence? I think not!*
Now, they both look down at us disapprovingly and say "Ain't that a bitch."
read my name
Lol
They're the same person tho
The Facebook moms were right
I remember when I was a kid I saw one of these vids and trying it in my back yard, got about 6 inches deep hit a tree root and gave up
Primitive Technology was the first ever primitive building youtube channel that I found interesting to watch, and I'm glad its legit
Same for me, after discovering him yt started to show me a lot of the other rip offs in the recommendations (many from the fake ones) but there was something off that made me don't even thinking about watching them and I stayed loyal to the original one.
If you've watched enough PT episodes, doubting its legitimacy is just stupid or looking for nothinburger drama.
@@elbolainas4174 I am the same; the copycats started being recommended to me and I immediately was put off by how they seemed focussed on impressing us by making showy but impractical structures instead of educating us on how people throughout history made a living for themselves without access to modern tools and conveniences.
They seem to love building ‘primitive’ swimming pools, but all I can think of when they do is the number of mosquitoes would spawn from a pool of standing freshwater in a tropical climate.
and he was the first to start doing it
When Sunnys video dropped I remember wondering why he made it. The primitive channels are so obviously fake it would be like exposing the WWE. Sure some people in the comments think it’s legit, but then again some people watch and try life hack or obviously fake cooking videos so no surprises there.
I’m amazed how many people thought these were real and fought Charlie on this.
Most of Charlie's viewers (especially on streams) are not American. They come from demographics that constantly make the most bizarre and blatantly fake things go viral. Largely south-east asians and spanish speaking demographics. And if you call their beloved content fake they will freak out on you.
Yeah I remember people already saying things about them being fake years ago? Why blow up now?
Next thing Moist will be talling us the easter bunny isnt real.
But legit, how did anyone not think that these videos were fake. It's so obvious.
@@polelix1023 its not that it blew up .. charlie is just comfy where he is right now and gotten lazy the only reason he gave this any attention is because it was on sunny v2 channel ....... its all he does no is wait for the next sunny video or hop on dumb trends that he said he wouldn't touch like techno ( he spoke about the same type of shit with Sean's dad )
@@OFFICIALLYBENPEARCE yea just ignore his esports team his comic book his music and everything else hes been doing recently and pretty much ey?
I really wish they wouldn’t leave the structures to fall apart. They’re so cool even if the videos are fake. Like if you’re gonna destroy the environment to make something cool, at least take care of it.
If I were then I’d try to sell that stuff to people and make some extra cash
The economics of south-east asia are quite different. The big bucks is made by pumping out one video after the other with millions of views. Who cares about the environment?
And as you can tell just by how quickly these structures deteriorate, no one *wants* to have them. Those "pools" aren't pools - they're stagnant bodies of water with no cleaning, circulation or a microbiome that keeps it clean. It will turn into a horrible swamp almost immediately.
@@MechMK1 Hey, drop some fish or lizards in there and you got somethin
@@MechMK1 true, they’re more like temporary art exhibits
The stagnant pools would be impossible to take care of.
"I was just ahead of my time, like Galileo".. I laughed so hard, legit spilled coffee on my shirt.
I’m amazed how anyone could ever think this was real. Do people no longer do any outdoors activity? Even digging a small ditch will absolutely kill you.
some people live in the city man, not really their fault lol
Most of Charlie's viewers come from other countries like the Philippines. They loooove their primitive building channels and yes they are the kind of people who also believe everything they see and hear online. Remember all those dumb videos where people would put some animal in a hole, then pretend like pouring stuff into it attracted the animal so they can grab it with their hands and pull it out??? That kind of content was extremely viral for a long time despite being sooo blatantly fake and stupid. Doesn't matter though certain demographics eat that stuff up and if you so much as call it fake, like charlie did, they'll get really triggered.
@@Josh-gb9ml Bruh, I'm from the Philippines. Not all of us believe everything that's on the internet. The first time our family watched this primitive build stuff, we knew they were using cement and other construction equipment. But as with all other countries on this planet, not just mine, it's the gullible ones who seem to be the most vocal whenever others tell them that they're wrong.
@@Josh-gb9ml i don't think u know what "triggered" means, brother. also i'm pretty sure most of charlie's viewers are american but go off trying to call everyone from southeast asia fucking stupid lmao
I mean you are asking a bunch of 0nline strangers instead of talking to realnpeolle in a pub or in your own house so .............. stfu about not doing things outside or building bollocks 🙄 😒 😑 😐 😤 🤔 🙄 😒 😑 😐 😤 🤔 🙄