Explaining All Banned Spell Cards in YuGiOh - [Part 1]
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- Опубліковано 1 чер 2024
- In this series we'll be going over all of the currently banned cards in the game, and explain why their banned and if they can come off the ban list and the future.
-The List-
Intro: (0:00)
10-Chicken Game: (0:15)
9- Mirage of Nightmare: (3:10)
8- Card of Safe Return: (6:09)
7- Graceful Charity : (7:31)
6- Pot of Greed: (9:37)
5- Delinquent Duo: (11:30)
4- The Forceful Sentry: (13:50)
3- Confiscation: (16:28)
2- Snatch Steal: (17:45)
1- Change of Heart: (21:30)
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The simpler and easier to understand a Yugioh card's effect is, the more powerful it is.
In magic, if that card can be cast for free/cheat on mana, it gets banned
Look at fires of invention, or once upon a time
Then why is pot of greed banned? Unless Konami knows something we dont
@@Sgtcrazyeyes235 sadly, in Japan they understand what pot of greed does, so they are banned.
Spell: Lose 1 LP
much powerful wow
@@Sgtcrazyeyes235 idk why either, what does pot of greed even do?
“Pot of Greed was Banned because nobody could figure out what it actually does.”
Greatest Quotes of 2020
The actual reason is
*people spams them until they get exodia parts*
@@nkwn975 Wait, you guys can put more than 4 copies of a catd?
(also, i just realized that pot of greed isn't ygo's black lotus, it's more like necropotence)
@@God-ch8lq if u have about 30 copies and 5 exo parts
@@nkwn975 Wait... Your decks are not 60 cards?
@@God-ch8lq *nah*
Card: Remove from play your entire hand, reduce your life points down to 1, preform the entire play version of Les Misérables on your own, perform a blood sacrifice to the void, and burn your childhood stuffed animal. Then draw 2 cards.
Meta Players: *uses it in every deck*
XDD
if ur hand is empty, the first downside is bypassed
life points dont really matter until they run out
high level players will memorize les misrables just to cast this
ygo players have already sacrificed their blood to the void
the stuffed pet is pretty difficult to achieve tho
Meta Players: Between my Drama major and my Beanie Baby collection, I have prepared for this moment my entire life.
Let's fucking _go._
Doesn't lock you out of other draw cards. Broken
@@mightyone727 "YOUR TIME IS UP AND YOUR PAROLE'S BEGUN!"
Who’s scared to lose life points when your opponent won’t even get a turn anyways
Card: draw
Konami: Ok you’re getting banned
Yes
Card advantage +1
Konami: *so you choose death*
Card: *Has a non once per turn effect*
Konami: We don't do that here
@@Ghostwolf4004 Card : your opponent draws one card (no restriction)
Konami : is this an FTK enabler or something ? *banned*
Bruh its not fare to banned cards bc that’s how the entire game was made
Card: "Draw 2 Cards. Your opponent wins."
Konami: "That card advantage seems a bit unfair to the guy who won."
fixed: draw 1 card pay half life point and your opponent win this and the next two match (so if you are gonna play again with him he insta win)
@@danielebettio8342 100% that would be run
Love this
Honestly I'd love to see a card that draws until you have 5 cards on your hand, but makes you loose at the end of the Main Phase 1 it was used in (and if you somehow use it at any other time, you just loose immediately before even drawing the cards).
*Meanwhile, in Magic:The Gathering land, mainly in Blue country:*
So, we have...
-cards making both opponents drawing a lot of cards if the player sees his opponent is milling through his deck
-cards to slap hard the opponent with a big graveyard (These pesky full Black decks)
-cards to slap the opponent banishing a lot of cards
-cards to slap the opponent with a lot of little creatures
-cards to slap the opponent with too powerful creatures
-cards to slap the opponent with too many enchantments, artifacts, auras, etc.
-We even have cards to counter decks popping too many mana!
Yea we let the players regulate themselves.
Konami: makes cards that allow more cards to be drawn
Also Konami: No
I guess the only want me to make a 7 card deck.
It’s always funny how many of the most broken cards in this game are some of the very first ones they printed.
The monsters back then are terrible by today’s standards but the spell cards are so powerful they can define an entire meta and become auto-include upon unbanning
Interestingly, Magic: The Gathering was the exact same way. Early on, creatures were awful, while there were plenty of ridiculously powerful instants, sorceries, and artifacts. Even after over 25 years of incremental increases to creature power level and decreases to noncreature power level, almost all the most powerful cards in the game are noncreatures.
Beat my friends xyz deck the other day with old old cards.. im talking giant stone soldier old. He said I could use any cards I wanted that were printed before a certain date
Edit: Rageki
So I haven't played Yugioh in 15+ years. Ritual cards and the Egyptian God cards were the newest thing when I stopped playing. It's interesting watching these videos and seeing how much the game has changed since then. A lot of these banned old cards were already great back then when the game was a lot slower and combos were fairly short and limited. These days it sounds like the game revolves around rapidly performing large combos that drop boss monsters onto the field and/or do massive amounts of damage in a single turn. The fact that cards originally designed to just speed up a slow game or give a significant but temporary advantage are now banned because they're broken in such a fast paced game really drives home how much the overall gameplay has changed.
Take Change of Heart for example. Back in the day, for it to really be used to full effect you had to at least have a decent monster on the field and arguably two or more counters set in your back field so that you could take your opponent's best monster, probably activate one counter to prevent them from negating CoH, then attack, and activate another counter to keep them from stopping you with something like Negate Attack or Mirror Force. That setup almost always took no less than 2 turns, often more since you and your opponent would be hitting each other with minor plays that would disrupt or delay each others strategy.
It's a constant in most card games.
Hearthstone had absolutely broken shit in beta.
Pokémon didn't have the distinction between trainer cards that can be "item" (play without restrictions) or "support" (much stronger than item cards but you can only use one of them per turn), and some super strong cards that now are supporters didn't have the once per turn restriction, plus energy removal cards were just broken.
When a card game is its infacy, it's natural that stuff is gonna be very unbalanced, since the game designers still need to figure out what kind of stuff is stong or weak in their game
@@Izandaia Oh, Power Nine. I wish they could just break the game like that again. Hell, I’d take something like Skullclamp just to see how crazy it would get until a ban
We learned that drawing is the most op thing in Yu-Gi-Oh
It really is
Always has been
Any card game*
Of course. Having draw power is the best effect next to being immune to everything.
Pound for pound, searching would be more powerful.
Graceful Charity: Add 3 cards to your hand and 2 cards to your other hand
What lol
Konami was so naive to think that GY was a lost resource when they created that card
@@Jyxero was it a lost resource when they made it?
@@intensellylit4100 when they made it yes, sure, discarding your vanilla or equipment was a pain... But nowadays "banish from GY to add, to special, to destroy..."
@@intensellylit4100 Never. First edition had already "Monster Reborn", which was promptly banned because... well, 1) manage to discard a ten stars normal monster or a very interesting special one without needing to summon it. 2) Play Monster Reborn. 3) Profit.
(Trust me, the face of my friend when he realized "Oops, looks like I discarded my [Great Old One Monster]" only to play a Magic Card right after was glorious to behold. Each time.)
Old spell cards are either hilariously terrible or downright broken.
That's because old Yu-Gi-Oh is very different to the modern children's card game. Graveyard used to be a pain to get out of, LP used to be the most important resource, big Attack and Defense numbers used to be super valuable. So old cards were balanced around those considerations which aren't relevant anymore.
@@Alex-0597 a child would have a easier time using an old deck. Thats why everyone played it in grade school.
That's the problem when you have a card game that has over 20 years. When you want to add a new spell/trap, you must optimalize it with 10k other cards already in the game so it wouldn't broke the game completely. The ban list exist probably because 18-20 years ago a card like Change of Heart wasn't a big deal like that. But in the era of summoning 30 monsters in one turn, this card would probably destroy the whole game. Of course you can't optimize every card
I miss old yugioh so much
@@Alex-0597 lp was never the most important resource. It was and still is about card advantage
You know, if the anime hadn't had the characters explain Pot of Greed narratively while playing it 73 different times, I don't think even the pros would've figured out that Pot of Greed allows you to draw two additional cards from your deck. Thanks for the lessons, Yugi!
Back in the early days, Change of Heart was mostly used to steal/prevent flip effect monsters and as a tribute to bring Summoned Skull. How times have changed.
Not really. Grab a dude that’d be annoying to deal with otherwise to make another monster with, it’s just it’s probably not gonna be a tribute summon anymore.
Snatch Steal is way better.
Snatch Steal doens't send the monster back in the end of the turn BUT in return it could easily be denied right away by MST and doesn't work on face down monsters.
Notice: Flip effect monsters were all the rage back then. So much Nobleman of Crossout was a staple card in many decks.
@@joshuahadams wall of Illusion anyone
@@SuperSayianWarrior :-)
For people that don't understand why in Yugioh drawing cards is way too good compared to other Card games the answer is simple. There are no resources here. What I mean is that you can summon monsters and play cards if you can as many as you can no problem. In games like Hearthstone, Magic, Pokemon you have limited resources per turn to do stuff you want. Not here.
Yeah, I was watching this and thinking, making cards not broken is so easy in MTG, you just add a mana or two. Even the most broken effects in history (like draw 3 for 1 mana) gets printed frequently, just at 4+ mana instead. Makes me appreciate the design constraints of Yugioh more, definitely.
@@Yesnomu This is why Yugioh has a HUGE banlist that is getting refreshed multiple times per year. With so many cards you are bound to see a lot of broken combos.
This why Yugi oh is one of the most hardcore card game
@@Yesnomu yeh, but the fact that Act of Treason needs to be a banned effect at 0 mana is hilarious. of all the effects on the list you can see comparisons to magic cards like Ancestral Recall, Faithless Looting, Control Magic, Thoughtsieze, and Hymn to Tourach. And then Act of Treason shows up with all these busted parallels to really make you think
Ive never played a TCG besides Magic and a tiny bit of Hearthstone and was super confused, thanks for clearing this up lmao
I have never played yu-gi-oh and was using magic: the gathering logic for these cards so when i saw “draw one card give your opponent 1000hp I thought “how the hell is that a good card” then realized that cards do thousands of damage a hit
For a 20 life game, it would be draw one card, your opponent gains 3 life.
For a commander, (I would assume) draw one card, each opponent gains 5 life
It's also interesting how Thoughtseize is strong but far from broken in MtG but in Yugioh, Confiscation (which is pretty much the exact same card) is so powerful it's banned and can't easily be fixed.
@@Thassar the value of a single hand card in yugioh is way more valuable than a single hand card in most other card games
@Sillimant eh idk that might be too good but also not good enough in some cases....we've gotten to over 1k life in mtg games. Mind you I used to play with a group that had crazy op decks and we tended to play open format aka ban lists but cards from every set.
Seeing Pot of Desires getting limited to one copy despite the hard once per turn and the banish 1/4 of your deck cost shows how insanely broken Pot of Greed would be if it were unbanned.
Gren Maju with 2 pots of desires is an instakill
This is why I never felt like I could do dick in yugioh.
Wait I thought it was semi limited?
@@chucklesdeclown8819 it came back to 2 soon after it was limited to 1. Presumably because Konami realized the card is actually worse at 2, since it's still inconsistent to access and now there is a chance you draw the second copy, wich will be dead in your hand.
Draw 2 cards.
From where?
From whom?
Which player?
*D R A W 2 C A R D S Y A T W A T !*
I draw 2 cards from you!
They ban a card because they allow you to draw 2 cards but allow links that summon your whole deck in a single round. Makes sense...
Do you have to use pencils, or would crayons work?
@@btf_flotsam478 and what do you do with the card you drew? can you give it to your opponent? can you throw it away? can you eat it? can i eat what they draw?
Pot of greed allows you to draw two cards from your opponents extra deck
Ok everyone always talks about how complicated pot of greed is, but NO ONE talks about the behemoth that is 'Jar of Greed'
It's a trap!!! That draw 1 simple it's just a ofensive name transgender that draw half a pot
Of greed (1 card)
I just realized we had Jar of Avarice but not the fusion Jar of Desires
Unless you're being sarcastic. This is why:
1) is a trap. You must wait a turn to use it.
2) you go neutral in card advantage. Use/discard 1 to draw 1=0.
3) Unless you go gimmicky. Is kind of stupid to even have this card on your deck in the first place.
A gimmick example could be a situation where you need to/your opponent shuffle(s) your deck.
Or either player activates a card that sends a specific card to the top of your deck.
After that. Then you can activate this trap.
Do you see the problem now?
As duel logs says very often. Is too convoluted and niche to get a real advantage from this card.
"Draw 1 card, but you must hug Jar Jar Binks during the end Phase."
"Draw one card, but you must clean a septic tank during the end phase"
Yugioh players: "I'LL TAKE YOUR ENTIRE STOCK"
For the Pot of Greed, it says “Draw 2 cards.” They forgot to add “You automatically win the Duel, the Tournament, and your opponent cannot play or draw more cards when you activate this card”. That’s how strong this card is.
I mean, unironically, if every card draw card in yugioh was unbanned, every deck would have a guaranteed turn 1 kill
"Could Change of Heart be unbanned? Probably."
Well, looky here...
When I started playing Yugioh, my friend told me: shorter the explanation of the card is, stronger it is. About 1/3 of cards in this list has less than 3 lines explanation.
I mean it's so true
This makes Sparks a happy spell card :)
That's messed up. Why dont they admit failure and redesign the game. The game was like what? 2 win cons? Lp to zero and mill??
@@rikrob5172 considering its the number one most sold TCG worldwide, it isnt a fail at all.
@@RinaShinomiyaVal yeah, it's popular because of a show. From a game design perspective, it's a failure.
Pot of Greed: *Has the simplest card text in the entire game*
TheDuelLogs: “This card was banned because nobody could figure out what it does.”
Lol
It's a reference to the anime, where it was explained basically every time the card was used. "But what does pot of greed do?".
@@Fadexpl I don't even know what a card is.
Yeah that's part of the joke, it's so straightforward and simple and in the anime they would explain every. Single. Time.
@@smileyp4535 The author, the animators, the director, the producer, and the audience : "Hm?! I wonder wgat does this card do"
Pot of greed: *draws 2 cards*
Konami: that's too strong for a card game
Almost any Lv4 creature: *when summoned, search your deck for whatever card you want from this archetype you are playing*
Konami: now that's peak cardgame design
Basically the Pepe archrtype deck
Ohhh my god you called it. Some of these ppl would loose their minds if they played mtg
and whats your point? pot is still busted compared to something that goes neutral and has to be played in an archetype
@@ich3730 Point is that it is equally stupid that drawing one random cards is op and everyone loses their mind while literally choosing the card you need to otk guy is like Monday in any Yu Gi Oh deck.
@@lackoflogic6496 Drawing is OP because Exodia exists.
Pot of Greed truly is the Ancestral Recall of Yugioh. It's just such a fundamentally broken effect that every attempt to fix it range from good to broken in their own right.
But what does it actually do? That's the most important part about the card.
I remember as a kid, I thought Snatch Steal was terrible because giving the opponent 1000 LP each turn just sounded insane to me. This was also when I was playing Dian Keto The Cure Master in every deck.
and you were right. life points took much longer to bring down back then
@@likeanuuk6612 Snatch Steal was a tournament staple from the day it came out. There was never a time even in the game's infancy where the 1000 LP mattered.
@@TheKaijudist loool
Dian seemed so good as a kid, boy were we wrong
I only used Dian Keto to test if the computer AI opponent has a Magic Jammer on the field.
I’m so happy the yugioh community has unanimously agreed to keep the Pot of Greed meme going
What meme? We genuinely have no idea what it does...
Can it draw 1 card?
Never heard of "Pot of Greed".
@@SoulGizmo I think it draws 3
@@thegrimminal9461 I think it let's you win instantly
This is literally my first ever exposure to anything YuGiOh related
Just watched this while eating cause there was nothing better to watch
I had no idea what half of it meant but still very interesting and educational content 👍
God I love how much Yu-Gi-Oh fucks itself over the old cards it made, like how Foolish Burial was made to be a bad card because you were sending a monster from your deck to your graveyard for no effect (remember that graveyard effects were basically nonexistent in early days) and then suddenly it became a good card because now the graveyard is basically a second hand to players
They're not screwing themselves. It's pretty basic create a problem and sell a solution strategy. Your cards going to GY was a problem, then they printed cards that targets the GY. Afterwards, made cards that will avoid the GY and pull them out of play. Then they printed cards that will use the cards that are supposedly out-of-play so now you have an optional 3rd hand. They need to evolve the game if they want to avoid duplicating card effects.
Foolish Burial was not a bad card but was released too early for it's intended purpose. It should've been released along with the GY targeting cards so players didn't get confuse on why the card was made.
Yeah there are alot of cards like that.Years ago I got a copy of monster gate and knew it was broken back then, now its limited years later and I'm confused how it took that long
"I can't think of any card that has had more retrains than Pot of Greed."
Hey, there's an idea! Top 10 Cards With The Most Retrains. I know you did top ten most errata'd cards in the past but I think this could be a really cool list and can help show cards to less experienced players that they may not be familiar with.
Blue eyes, dark magician, and some other good stuff
Poly should be number 1 .
I believe he has done a video about top ten cards with the most retrains already. Just go through his playlist.
@@countzrathknock6737 I know he's done best/worst retrains and some other ones like ritual retrains but U can't find one about most retrains. There is one for most errata though, which I mentioned but those are two different things.
@@codenamePori Poly and Pot would definitely be the number 1 and 2 spots but I haven't counted so don't know which is which... probably Poly just because of the sheer number of archetype specific retrains.
My brother played yu-gi-oh when it just came out so we basically had entire decks of just banned cards, change of heart, pot of greed etc.. In 5th grade I couldn't play in a tournament because like half of my deck was banned.
I mean, I was there before banned cards were a thing. It was pretty boring; everyone was running the same shit in every deck. Like, playing in the Chaos Control meta was the tipping point where every deck was exactly the same and Konami had had enough.
Fiber Jar was pretty fun, though.
Hell my off the shelf starter deck had banned cards. They were just standard
Yeah! And this is why I stop playing in tournaments now because the number of Cards they've Banned over the years. It got to a point I said F@@k Tournaments.
@@jqjames 🤣 never been in one &I agree with you 100% that's why I'll never be in a tournament too many restrictions I kind of get what they're coming from with the restrictions but nahh I can't
"The only intricate thing about this game is it's ban list."
-Magnus the Red
Holy shit is Pegasus actually Magnus??
@@Kuchhhboth lost an eye
Both a big mega Nerds.
Yep we found magnus
Ah, Change of heart. I loved that card back in the day. Take your opponents strongest monster they worked so hard for to get and use it for a Tribute for a strong monster of your own.
Nowadays we have turtle for that
Hey! Good news! It's back at 1 now.
Meta players: OMG, we can't unban Pot of Greed! That would be broken!
Also meta players: *plays their entire deck in a turn*
Thats why handtraps and the banlist exist. And unfavorable control matchups. Not every deck is a combo deck
That's why I play MtG. Winning before your opponent can do anything is super toxic
@@rawrasaurusrexy6995 This happens in magic though also, except its you just drawing too many lands or no lands ;l
@@rawrasaurusrexy6995 lmao what's with all these mtg players here hating?
Literally anyone: says "yugioh"
Mtg players: "this is why I play mtg"
lol this is a yugioh vid, why are ya'll here just to hate? Wtf?
Winning this way used to be possible in MTG too, but you’d need an immense amount of luck. I once saw a “gameplay” with a dredge deck where the draw order was rigged specifically to demonstrate this.
Konami: "i hate cheap +1s"
Also Konami: "let's allow this bunch of new over supported warriors to go +6 for no reason" :v
And ftk'ng in the meanwhile
Of course I wasn't referring to Pot of Greed which would have a 99,999% of representation changing literally nothing. I just see cards like change of heart or Brain control (which for konami needed an errata for whatever reason). They sure give you a +1 but they won't be mained in each single deck. Maybe sided? Can be, but, considering they do target, they become automatically suboptimal to TTT for 2nd turn plays.
So what can the change of heart unban may bring? A valid second turn option for a budget prospective. But as we know well, Konami hates them (see Called By The Grave). The banlist became just an item to remove budget options and keep a higher interest towards new broken cards (that actually pull together effects of banned cards: see TTT who is Forceful Sentry/Pot of greed/Better change of heart).
And of course I don't want to see way more broken cards to be unleashed like Painful Choice or Grinding Golem.
"Hello! I like money!"
@@8Kazuja8 TTT has a condition for its activation that you could almost every time you see it in your hand, fulfill. If you go second basically it's never a dead draw. But I respect your point: having no costs it's definitely a perk although TTT for a slightly more convoluted way to resolve it rewards you with picking one from three degenerate and banned effects.
For the last point, you must apologize me if I can't understand entirely your words cause of my poor English. You are basically saying that bringing out the economical side of adding and removing cards from the banlist is silly right? I don't think I'm the only one bringing out this topic and before laughing at my argumentations you should bring solid explanations about how the banlist (and the new staples) history made this game more enjoyable, fair to budget strategies and balanced. May I remember you how the zoo/draco era ended? And what we have now? Bunch of opponent's turn interactions and removals and a semi-masterpiece that has the perk to be splashable when your main combo fails. So what was wrong with zoos and masterpiece if we landed on the same level of degeneracy many many sets realising later?
And sure new staples are meant to be bought and played if you want to compete on a regional level, I'd just like to see more cards that realistically may let you play against an established board (besides UCT+ ruler).
when the confiscation was restricted to one card, there was a quote "One who get the confiscation in their first hand wins the game."
Watching this after the May 2022 ban list is hilarious. Change of Heart is just back with no errata.
But at least in modern meta, there's alot of cards that is unaffected or can not be targeted so Change of Heart is not insanely broken like before.
Still strong, still can troll the hell out of your opponent, but modern meta with negate and Uneffected, cannot target weaken Change of Heart quite abit.
Because it targets.
It had and errata it was changed until the phase instead 9fbthr turn
I've played a lot of Yugioh GX Duel Academy on GBA, so Snatch Steal just brings out a lot of bad memories, every single npc in that game had the damn card.
Fucking preach! I got so sick of that card. Luckily us players in that game essentially had three copies of Raigeki since Burst Stream of Destruction wasn't programmed correctly in that game.
that and Trap Hole for me. ever since then, i made sure to do face-down summons.
ALWAYS
Jinzo was a bitch for a while too
@@kindasomeviews Me: I Summon Blue-Eyes White Dragon
The AI: I activate my trap card "Trap Hole"
If the AI had them so did I.
If the effect is annoying to me, it's also annoying to the opponent.
Me Summons
Opponent Trap hole
Opponent Summons
Me: HOW DO YOU LIKE MY TRAP HOLE, B!TCH?
Don’t forget hane hane and the stupid penguin I summon my blue eyes then lose it because of that penguin
I've been looking for a video like this, with a picture of each card you talk about! Just showing the images and getting right to the point makes this one of the best Yu-Gi-Oh channels I've watched
Yeah it's good for that reason alone. He doesn't take long to explain things either.
@@zekiel2533 yes. That's make this channel is the best Yu-Gi-Oh UA-cam channel for me
Are you a girl?
Daria Fernandez Exactly. Its speed caters to people in the know, but the pictures allow newbies to pause and read when necessary.
Graceful charity could maybe work if you set the affect to “draw three cards, show your opponent your hand and they choose two cards to discard from it.”
It would probably still be banned, or maybe just limited. Sure, it wouldn't fit into EVERY deck, like current one, but if you put it in a deck, where it literally doesn't matter what you discard, it's really powerful. Any card that has the potential to go +3,+4 or even +5 is just begging to be abused one way or another. But clever idea.
Or if instead of your opponent choosing 2 to discard, have them banish 2 face down
@@Dantelor bruh theres decks that already go +15 on turn 1
👍
@@Jamsessionroom1337 he mean one single card make that many card advantage, meaning graceful charity can make up to +5
Change of heart was always my favorite card to play back when the tcg first came out just playing with friends/family. Taking my dad's blue eyes to summon my dark magician and watching the pain in his eyes gave me great pleasure.
18:40 - The funny thing with Snatch Steal is that if the monster is stolen successfully, you can flip it down with Subterror Guru and keep it forever. :-)
True, this is a cool mechanic people sometimes used when the card was legal by using Book Of Moon to flop the stolen monster face down.
Not sure how practical this would be if Snatch was legal today. Probably not too useful.
@@Weareonenation303 Cool, I didn't know people actually did that back in the day. I just tried it in EDO Pro recently after considering that Guru flip also works with Crackdown.
@@timaeus22222 Yeah its done quite a bit in goat wuth tsukoyomi also doing it. Same thing with call of the haunted.
@Yan Carvalho Triple Tactics Talent still returns the monster back to the opponent's field in the End Phase, regardless if it is flipped down and back up before then. I guess the difference is it's not an equip spell or continuous trap.
@@Weareonenation303 tsukutomi mostly
Legend has it that not even Konami knows what Pot of Greed does.
For the love of God how, is this a joke a no longer playing yu-gi-oh player missed out on?
Neither Konami nor the player know it bro
@@yobelpetra8652 It might not even exsist...
@@josh-mf7lt Yes it is.
What does pot of greed do?
As "uncreative" as it would be, making graceful ban 2 face-down would restore the intent of the card of flushing through 3 cards of your deck for the cost of permanently giving up some of your resources
that would still be incredibly op tho
@@weirdertyp217 could be changed that 1 is random & 1 is chosen by your opponent (without revealing the cards). Would probably help balance it a bit, as it could be very fatal to your combos but could still be broken so idk.
@CriticalErr0r I chain mystical refpanel to make my opponent discard their hand
The problem still is drawing 3 cards
As an MTG player looking at graceful charity my head nearly exploded. We have a similar card called brainstorm that makes you put two from your hand unto the top and it has spellspeed 2 (or is an instant for you mtg players out there). The card is played in every format that it is legal in and is considered one of the best ways to dig. Even though it essentially blocks you from drawing any new cards until you get through the top two. However discarding instead would litteraly break magic as a game. There was a card called faithless looting that let you draw two then discard two and it got banned for being too powerful, I couldn't even imagine going nutrual after playing a card like faithless looting 💀💀💀
the problem with yu gi oh and card draw, as far as I understand, is the lack of mana costs. You can just chain draw spells without any limitation, so they are just thinning out your deck without any cost. In magic thinning out your deck with scry and draw effects costs you mana and therefore does not allow you to do other things.
It's funny how could the game designers ignore this blatant fact, and how divination is not playable in mtg whereas pot of greed is the best card ever in this game
Magic has the exact effect of Graceful Charity in the Thirst Series- Thirst for Knowledge, Thirst for Meaning and Thirst for Discovery.
All Thirst cards let you draw three cards and then discard two. (They also give the option of discarding only one if its a specific type of card)
The difference is that they all cost 3 mana. A zero mana card with that effect would certainly be broken in magic, but at 3 mana they only see some play.
@@josephcourtright8071 Well yes, but as you said at 3 mana... Im talking about a 1 mana version of this. Because generally wizards prints very few 0 mana cards.
Graceful Charity is more like Bazaar of Baghdad
@@williamdrum9899 exactly, which is considered one of the best cards of all time even though you "lose cards"
As someone who doesn’t even play yugioh, these videos are pretty nice to learn about the history of the game. If possible, could you do a video explaining the dragon rulers and what made them so powerful?
it's gonna come sooner or later
They are currently banned... so they should show up in this new series of his sooner or latter.
alright dragon rulers is just "i summon everything in my hand and graveyard" and "D I S C A R D"
Check out his video on top 5 Tier 0 decks. He discusses why dragon rulers are so broken. I think it's number 2. The archetype is so broken they banned all of the dragon rulers except 1
He already did
YuGiOh!: You win whenever you drop your opponent's life points to zero
YuGiOh! Players: Hey bud, I activate my spell to draw 3 cards and give you a million lp, good luck!
It would unironically see play, as there are alternate-win conditions such as Exodia or Final Countdown.
@@KineticManiac easy, just throw the cards into the sea and you're invincible
Or make your opponent run out of cards to draw.
Nurse burn op
@@mikaruyami yugioh joey passion game i like this strategy
As a Magic and Pokemon player, It's wild seeing how restrictive draw power is in Yugioh.
No mana. No rotation.
Those 4 words should make sense why card draw is super restrictive
Change of Heart just got unbanned to 1 copy lol. Nice call from this video
As nice as the top 10 lists are it's nice to have a change (even if it is still in 10's)
Got to test the water yeah know
Yep, very true
10 is a comforting number, easy to digest and not too combersome to read or say.
Muskles
@@MetalTam congratulations. You are the first ever to make that joke.
Ah change of heart the only Yugioh card I ever owned because someone left it on the playground.
Can change of heart be unbanned? Probably
Konami may 2022: this man knows
I like how dead on right you were with change of heart
"Could Pot of Greed be unbanned? *HELL* and *NO* ." - DuelLogs, 2020
I'm looking forward to this series.
Remember that Yugioh Gx episode where it was just about Pot of Greed and everybody should be using Pot of Greed?
Man, the GX's cast really abuse the crap out of Pot of Greed.
@@mariobros68 And now it's banned forever. Poetry.
To be fair Jaden also abused Mirage of Nightmare + Emergency Provisions
Playing Master Dual has shown that my classic deck was very OP. I have had to adapt to the way the game is played today. It's been fun learning new types of summons. I still love the good old days. People went nuts for good classic cards. Upright trying to trade you 10 cards for 1 our outright offer you a hefty amount of money. Especially if a card was sold out in shops. Also Getting lucky with opening real packs, that fresh smell of cards, is still an exciting thing that I enjoy.
Mad respect to you, man! You know so much about the game history and explain so well!
Me who doesn’t even play Yu-Gi-Oh and totally understands every word coming out of his mouth: hmm very interesting
No idea why this got recommended to me in the first place, but its unique(maybe)
@FrozenKuriboh who hurt you ?
@FrozenKuriboh plum
@@fwant2729 a meme is only dead if no one uses it, he revived it just for you
english bro english
Good job, Jaden, got a card banned just by having the exploit televised.
There was also that Rare Hunter that fought Joey and Yugi who used the strats of 3 Charity and 3 Pot to draw into 3 copies of Exodia
@@noraarcadia635 Yeah, but that's just using a regular draw engine, he's using them as intended and without exploits, albeit excessively. But Jaden's first season deck used exactly the Mirage of Nightmare-Emergency Rations exploit that got Mirage banned.
@@EinDose they used that in first gen yugioh as well, Joey vs grandpa did that as well if I'm remembering correctly
@@TimothyGod Yep, in the KC Grand Championship arc.
It's so funny that the best cards came out super early and were basically in every deck lol. This is so great because I remember using all of these.
Raigeki
Dark hole
Pot of greed
Graceful charity
Harpie feather duster
Jinzo
Etc
exactly. if cards like mirror force, raigeki and dark hole got unbanned, cards like lightning vortex and karma cut that's considered broken in duel links wouldn't even get a second glare
There's a card called Brainstorm in MTG, which does exactly what Graceful Charity does - draw 3 then discard 2 (although Brainstorm actually puts the two cards back on top of your library), and it is the most broken spell that's ever been printed in Magic.
AnCeStRaL rEcAlL
I stopped playing Yugioh since 2006 and man, did I get so nostalgic with this memory lane.
Everything was so simple back then, but that's the same reason why there were so many broken cards and it was pretty evident as the game was evolving every year, their simplier rules didn't click well with the newer cards so banning them was innevitable.
Card advantage is indeed the best thing you could have in most TCGs.
Goat Format is a thing. It's got a pretty good community too
A really cool deck idea I thought of is what if an entire deck was based on not wanting card advantage? would it be too bad if they didn't have any float? Didn't have any plus' effects? Would it be fair to give them powerful effects in trade of always needing a lower total card count then your opponent in your hand and field? and that float effects for your side don't activate? Would it just be a horrible archetype or could their actually be potential in that?
@@chucklesdeclown8819 Infernity was a deck based around having no cards in hand and it did very well.
@@williamdrum9899 well I'm talking overall advantage cause while you could look at infernity and say, "ya it frequently lost advantage" I don't think that's completely right, cause it's just cards in hand but what about your field or even graveyard if you wanted to go that far.
God, watching this is like a murderer’s row of cards that gave me a hard time when I was a kid. Now with the realization that those cards were actually just broken.
Watching this after may 2022 banlist
These videos are awesome as a returning player and a young player where I didnt understand the game fully when these cards got hit, its cool to see why cards got banned
I really like this format! Breaking down the card's broken nature, how it was played in the past and its history on the banlist, then answering the big questions: Can it come back? If not, how could we fix it?
great video, I'm looking forward to the rest of the series!
Another reason why Snatch steal was banned, use it to take a monster and then tribute it straight away, you don't give your opponent 1000 lp and they've lost a monster whilst you've gained a strong monster from the tribute.
That happend so much to me on YGO Gx Duel Academy on GBA... It sucks, especially when you can't destroy that monster/ block it from attacking or using any trap or whatever and simply losing.
I haven't played since 2008-ish, so I recognize more of the cards on the banlist than the ones that were created to replace them. But I still find breakdowns like this fascinating. It's amazing the kind of combos people can come up with in competitive play.
chicken game is one of my favorite cards conceptually tbh it's such a funny concept and a pitch perfect name
Literally anything that gives you Advantage for LP:
Aromas: I like that.
you mean the greatest deck of all time
@@ineedjuuce6414 oh you mean volcanics 😂
@@Ecdemaniac nah I love aromas and will say they’re better than volcanics but thats cause we don’t have enough volcanic support. I disagree with you for now but maybe when they add some fun support we can both be happy.
@@balancemaster55 no he said greatest deck of all time so I said volcanics as a joke
Aroma fans Wuhu!
Honestly I'd like to see a condition on these cards like "can only be used after your third draw phase."
It sounds very unique. I like it. The only drawback being the obvious waiting period. As duels typically end a lot quicker now than in the past.
That instantly makes any card unplayable as 3 draw phases is an eternity in modern YGO.
Yeah, you can see what happened with future fusion errata. Not sending the materials immediately to the GY made it unplayable. There is no reason to play a card that doesn't give you immediate advantage.
@@ivanmaterazzo2631 isn't the problem whit future fusion that it can be destroyed before it's effect activate?
@@ivanmaterazzo2631 1 word: *Infernoid*
Ooh thanks for making this series. I'm gonna be watching it :)
Very good explanation subbed!
Mirage of Nightmare, Emergency Provisions: the one anime combo that was actually viable when it was still unbanned.
This is fascinating to watch as a mtg player, some banned cards are very similar and some are just part of a lot of our metagames. Pretty cool video
The reason why banned cards are banned because if you made a full deck of them you can summon Exodia with one or two turns by far
I feel like this video is “Top 10 reasons Magic has a mana system” (so there’s a resource other than card advantage to balance around)
Not exactly. That's why Yu-Gi-Oh is am interesting game to study. It's lack of resources. While yes it makes it hard to keep things balanced, cards became the resource you have to manage, plus limiting normal summons did help early game. I don't play Yu-Gi-Oh so I don't know how it's played but I love to study it to see how a different type of game can be played
magic is also broken
@@lorekeeper685 oh yea I do agree, fucking Oko, but its more balanced then Yu-Gi-Oh
@@sapphireaurora9634 it's gotten better since zendikar rising (post omnath)
For example, kaldheim standard is a really diverse and fun meta, if u ask me
@@sapphireaurora9634 YGO is a good example of how bad design can still be fun, if embraced correctly. I don't play it either, but even as a non-player (tho experience from other card games helps a lot with spectating) the game is fun to watch and learn about.
Great video! It seems that the way Konami has watered down powerful banned cards was by creating new cards with weaker effects. Having this, what they did to Chaos Emperor Dragon was disrespectful, Sky Scourge Norleras and Demise King of Armageddon kind of solved the problem. I rather have CED banned as a Legendary card, with its status as the most broken card ever created than have it unbanned and stripped of its God-like effect.
Well, it could have simply said you cannot activate effects afterwards, or even before, but both is certainly disrespectful. All major Erratas Konami has done are either unneccesary, too harsh, or too late.
Konami is terrible at Errata's.
Brain Control could simply have "its effects are negated, and it cannot attack directly" seeeing as how brain controlled people in a trace tend to forget basic things, or in the case of the anime, would only be an extension of the controller and the controller wouldn't know everything about the target's potential (Marik possessing Joey, Ginyu body snatching Goku, etc). At the time, this restriction would have been minor where it would still see use, but nowadays it needs no restriction since taking control of an opponent's monster is great, but not overpowered since the card isn't searchable, and decks prefer going 1st.
Crush Card never needed to give the opponent the choice to mill monsters, if they wanted it to be like the anime, it should have been all, or the user's choice of 3; that still would have been a nerf to cutting the 3 turn check. No Damage addition is unnecessary, but would have also been sufficient enough by itself, since most decks since before the Errata are filled with spells and weak monsters used as combo pieces/hand traps, so full-powered CCV has never really been as powerful since Synchros dominated.
Ring of Destruction only needed a fix to prevent drawing with the opponent, because Draws slowed down the tournaments. The "you take damage first" is fine enough, and it still would not see play because players using traps in slower decks use the Solemn cards first, which all require life points, which is why a potentially better card than Ring of Destruction, Blazing Mirror Force does not see play, even though it can single-handedly steal games being close to a fusion of Magic Cylinder and Mirror Force, and affect the opponent's entire field. The "less than or equal to their LP" only means it is unplayable mid-late game, unlike Blazing Mirror Force, but it might see a bit more play in burn decks, simply because burn decks favor Mystic Mine which prevents attacks. Horray for degenerate burn decks!
Sinister Serpent was almost never great and never needed an Errata or to be banned imo. It was banned because in slow formats with cards with discard effects Graceful Charity, and Snipe Hunter, users could slowly regain their hands back. Banishing it after a single use is unjustified.
Dark Magician of Chaos also never needed an Errata. Like Magician of Faith, it's only powerful in formats with powerful generic spell cards like Pot of Greed and Graceful Charity, both of which have been banned since 2006 iirc. It possibly would have seen play in Dark Magician decks with "Dedication Through Light and Darkness", but the nerf killed any potential it had.
Sangan possibly needed an Errata a long time ago, but currently the Errata is almost pointless, as Sangan at full power would search hand traps or Tour Guides anyways, or can be bypassed by cards like the Tuner Crusadia Arboria with Almiraj to go into Halquifibrax, since Arboria doesn't activate. I'd say its errata might help slow Burning Abyss decks down a bit, but they don't need/use Sangan anymore anyways. Witch of the Black Forest also has an Errata and better effect, but it not being a Tour Guide target means it'll probably never see play since both Sangan and Witch require themselves to be on the field, aka Normal Summoned/Set, far too slow even at full power. Exodia decks, which were notorious for abusing Witch and Sangan, always had Emissary of the Afterlife for the same purpose while these were banned, and it never used them because the game advanced early on to become too fast, so they were only powerful in even earlier formats, or in Sangan's case, when Crush Card was actually threatening.
Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon perhaps needed a HOPT for a long time, but is not really the balance Dragon decks need, with cards like Seyfert, CED Armageddon, Brotaur, Levianeer, Guardragons, coupled with generic engines like Halqufibrax, it wasn't the reason these decks can vomit out huge boards, but the card might still see use solely in Red-Eyes decks, so perhaps this Errata is fair, though it is admittingly far too late. Perhaps the card should have been Errata'd first before ever being limited in the first place.
Exchange of the Spirit has a fair Errata; it's purpose was always unfun, degenerate and unhealthy for the game, similar to Last Turn, so it never needed to come off the banlist or need an Errata, but if it had to get one (as in if Konami wanted every card off the list), it deservingly gets one that makes it nearly unplayable.
Makyura the Destructor similarly never needed an Errata, it should have just stayed banned, since it once again was used solely in degenerate decks and nothing more. No deck is going to run a Makyura engine just to activate a single trap faster, it was only used when the entire deck was mostly powerful traps limited in use because they were slower traps, not spells.
So the last 4 cards did not need an Errata, or got it way too late, and the rest were a joke. Cards that need an Errata ASAP will not get one: Halquifibrax (too generic), Apoloussa (HOPT or non generic), Borreload Savage (too generic), Dragoon/Anaconda (actually, it's not bad since it requires DM and Red-Eyes to be mained, but combined with these others it is nasty; Anaconda could receive a nerf to require a non-effect non Token or both requirements to be DARK), Buster Whelp (equipped only to a Buster Blader, etc), and basically every card on the banlist if the end goal is to eliminate it.
@@Goblin_Hands great analysis! Now I understand that in many cases, the way Konami has done erratas are, for lack of a better word, useless. It's like if they are blindly making them, without knowing were the game is headed to. Many of the erratas that you mentioned, had it not being applied, cards would not see play even with their former effects in the current state of the game and very likely in the future... thus now that they are official, many of them that used to be cool will forever be locked in the unused card pool. Don't know of they will try and fix all the cards in the forbidden list that are ridiculously poweful, so that in the future the Ban List will only serve to balance Tiers in Tournaments instead of forever forbidding cards such as Pot of Greed, Graceful, etc...
Thank you for the video! Was pretty entertaining
coming back here cause after 17 years we got Change of Heart back
Aw yeeeeeee as someone who only started playing YGO competitively very recently (sometime after Firewall was banned) I love hearing about the history of the game!
"The only thing extensive about that game is it's ban list." -A very wise and red man.
Who did absolutely NOTHING WRONG
So I started with your Mtg video with pumpkin and decided to watch this because I haven’t played Yugioh in over a decade. Fun idea here do a colab to compare Magic’s banned list with Yugioh’s banned list. You could compare keywords and archtypes so you can lump similar banned cards together to save time. Also you could pair formats and go Newest to Oldest Banned cards because new is hot and true fans will stay for older formats if they click on the first video.
1yr later, Change of Heart gets off the band list without an errata.
but, with the same restrictions he predicted at the video:
at 1 copy, because it fits with the rest of the meta and contrary to snatch steal it cant be searched, since its not an equip, but a normal spell card so it cant be searched by any meta deck.
which is poggers that, even if its not banned anymore, his explanation still holds up
Such a great idea for a series, you're the only yugituber I can listen to explaining stuff like this. Can't wait for the rest of the series!
i really wanted a series like this, it explains detail by detail adn also is a good start for new players trying to understand more of the game.
I don’t play yugi-oh anymore, but something about this guy’s videos makes it sound interesting and I’m here for it.
honestly you will hate it . the whole thing has become stupidly broken to the point where it has sucked the fun out of the game completely its either loose right away or win right away . all the back and forth fun has completely gone also you feel like a dick if you do win because most cards have dick effects . don't bother or play duel link ( still broken but is a bit better )
i’ve always like the dynamic of 1 forceful sentry. allowing for a low amount, but still possible, kinda “recon” effect to plan ahead.
A big reason why drawing cards in strong in YGO is because the game does not have any mana limitations
I was surprised that you didn’t mention Enemy Controller alongside Brain Control in the “how to balance this card” section of Change of Heart
Was great. You explanation were perfect.
It's kinda funny seeing him explain how Chicken Game, Pseudo Space and Terraforming can be abused over a year before Master Duel released. Now it's used for Exodia and that combination of cards is incredibly broken
I'm eager to see how this series continues, I just really enjoy getting to understand how certain cards are said to be broken but at first glance they look kinda weak. Keep this fresh content up man 👌
Me (knows nothing about Yu-Gi-Oh): I like your funny words magic man!
Pot of greed: draw 2 cards
The entire playerbase: hmmm, this must be written in a forgotton language
I totally lost it at number 6. God that was hilarious with your sincere voice.
I like this style of video, however, when you've got cards like Pot of Greed/Graceful Charity and then cards like Delinquent Duo/Confiscation, you could probably just group them together. Saves you time from bringing up the previous cards on the list to compare when they are both doing almost the same thing.
Yeah true I did think about that too when making this one. Ultimately I decided to do them separately for catalogue purposes. Like if I wanted a reminder on a card in the future, I could come back to one of my videos and just go to the time stamp and basically get all the info I need.
@@TheDuelLogs yeah that's valid. Very interesting to think of how to balance cards. In Graceful Charity's place I would probably have a card that you draw the 3 cards but you have to banish 3 cards from your hand.
Theduellogs: makes a video about banned spell cards
Spellbook of judgment: is not in the video
Me: confused screaming
It will be some day
You realizing this is Part 1, calm screaming
He said he's not doing them all in one video
@@duelistemissary7680 ikr it was just a joke about the fact that he talks about that card whenever he can
@@matteo964 makes sense
Cards unbanned since this video:
Change of Heart
WAIT hirumaredx I loved your WOW content top qaulity stuff. Glad to see you've got other stuff going on now that wow is well in a state. Keep up the good work bro
Mirage of Nightmares brings back good memories. I remember wrecking kids at my local library tournaments by playing macro cosmos or the continuous spell with the same effect, and dumping my hand over and over until I start slamming Gren Maju Da Eiza at like 7k attack.