Buy once, cry once :D Story of my Jeep build. I went with a Metalcloak 2.5" dual rate lift with 35's. Love it. I am getting it geared to 4.88 next week (2015 JKU Sport). Having a mechanic you trust is very important too.
Thats a great bit of info especially the 3" tip. sweet and thanks for steering us in the right direction. Looking for a Jeep in the future and I'll be looking at more of your videos for sure ! Subbed :- )
All very well said and Accurate while cutting through the MAZE of products out there vying for everyone’s attention…!! ✅ Our third Jeep Wrangler now is a first year TJ (in fact was made two months before that First year started) 1997, I believe they came stock with only 26” tires on them which look Totally Ridicules in my opinion, so ours has 33x12x15’s on it with 3.5” lift which fits right in the NORM OF WHAT WE THINK A TJ WranglerShould look like 😍 and BTW, We think the TJ’s are thee Very Best Looking Jeep Wranglers EVER MADE….!!!! 😎👍👌👏🥳
I just dropped $6200 on a lift, tires, and wheels for my ‘22 JT EcoDiesel! 😫 Shipping it all to Alaska was a big piece of the cost. I went with an AEV Dualsport RT 2.5 inch lift. Running AEV Salta XR wheels with a Goodyear DuraTrac RT tire wrapped around them. Size 285/75/17 which is just a hair over 34 inches. This truck is my daily driver and occasionally will take some light trails, dirt roads in the summer but most of the all the roads and trails are covered with snow. I’ll be installing it with my son so hopefully it all works out and the JT rides and looks so much better than stock.
Some very good points made here and they help make a lot more sense of things out there. I am hoping the lift will help fix the bottoming out I am currently getting on my JTD.
If you are bottoming out, then really consider the shocks.... a twin tube, or variable valving shock can help with that more then just spring replacement. 🤔
@@JeepingForBeginners Oh I understand that for the most part. But this is the stock setup on my JT Sport Diesel, I upgraded to Rubi take off 33s. I have heard from sources that this was an issue from the factory. It is bad enough that if I hit a speed bump wrong I will hit the bump stop. I have had it happen on the 95 downtown catching the aqueduct bumps just right.
Well, I am sure it's not the tires. Who knows, maybe the factory shocks are blown... or defective. It happens. But I would be willing to bet, upgraded shocks would certainly calm that down
@@JeepingForBeginners I guess I will ask them to take a look at it when I go info my first oil change. I just got it in October and noticed it on the trails, we all though I was just needing that extra clearance. May be one of these days we will cross paths.
This was quite helpful! About a month ago i ordered a 2022 Jeep Wrangler Willys 2 door and have gotten past what size tires & wheels I want to run, but have been stuck on what size and type of lift I should get. I definitely feel more informed now thanks to you 😊
It's from a company called Gobi. I love it too, low profile enough to not be overly obnoxious, yet strong enough to do what I want it to do. Check them out gobiracks.com
A leveling kit is just a small front end lift designed to remove the natural rake of the vehicle. 99% of the time, consists of just spacers. But a lift usually adds height to both front and rear of the vehicle. A leveling kit can range from 3/4 of an inch to 1.25 inches, a lift kit goes larger. Leveling is great for stance, or just leveling the vehicle, but to clear larger tires usually need a lift. Hope that helps
Like you mentioned that on a JLU I can fit 35s without the need of a lift. But can you do a segment on re-gearing both differentials depending on tire size, please
@@JeepingForBeginners Can you also include regearing depending on the engine. I have a 2021 JLU 4 cylinder turbo and would like to put 33s or maybe 35s in a near future if possible
Thanks for the good information. I have a 2017 Wrangler Unlimited Sport. I want to put a 33 on it. I need lift, level or nothing I'm confused...I already bought some wheels 17x9 -12mm offset...
You should be able to install 33s without an issue. A leveling kit is always a good idea, but even without, I would think you would be just fine with 33s
Check out www.jeeping4beginners.com for upcoming events and class schedules... should have the summer schedule up soon, so keep an eye on it. May help!
but can I build an off roader with out the lift? Running JK . As a hunter, fisherman, and camper I use the jeep quite often. We're off road but not extreme. I'd rather spent two hours tracking game or getting the extra cast in than getting unstuck,,, and that time could be far better spend trying to light my camp fire than digging out trust me I need all the extreme time to build a fire . Nothing against a suspension up grade specially if it helps with my towing. But is this practical?
I want to lift my 2023 Subaru outback onyx i change the wheel rim 17 offset 40 then the tyre is bfg 225/65/17 A/T what brand can you recommend somebody told me ironman 4×4 2inches lift tnx.
1st time buying suspension i don’t know what to get Tire size:35 lift:2 1/2 What shocks and suspension should I get for off-roading do you recommend for this?
If you are going to use it more off road, I would be looking at dual rate springs, and at least twin tube shocks. Rubicon Express, Teraflex, and Skyjacker make great entry level kits that meet those needs. But if you want a more comfortable on road feel because it will see far more pavement then dirt, I would consider Rubicon Express, BDS suspensions, or maybe, just maybe, RCX... though I am not a real fan.... keep in mind though, the performance is what you are looking for... so is it a daily driver 99% of the time, or are you looking to "wheel" it more once you modify it?
It’s gonna be 50 50 on road off-road but looking for a truck to haul it around and then it would be used only for off-road. Thanks for the suggestions I’ll go check them out
Hoping you have time to share your thoughts. I have a 79 CJ7 with the 258 4.2 inline 6 I'm restoring. Original wheels are 15 x 10.5 and tires were 31 x 11.5. With only leaf springs and shocks. I'm not the guy that sets out to destroy it on the weekend and hit the major rock crawling.. more roads but some moderate offloading from time to time. I'm looking at a 2.5" lift with 16 in wheels and 33 x 11.5" tires. What kind of lift, suspension, shocks, and offset/backspacing would I need with a moderate budget if any? I'm also a little unsure on the wheel width. Thoughts?
So if I remember correctly, the suspension you have is leaf spring front and rear... therefore lift is super simple and inexpensive as all you need are some shackles and new shocks... as for wheels, if you have a 10.5 wide now, why not use the same rims, just larger tires? A 33x12.50 tire will mount just fine... and you should not have clearance issues on that model for such a small jump in tire size. That sounds like a fun project, and we all love those old CJs... hope that helps. 😀
@@JeepingForBeginners you're correct 4 shocks and leaf springs. I can't use the same wheels. One of the matching white 15" wagon wheels is missing. Figured going to a 16 x 33 would look better and add more stability with a small 2.5 lift. Just curious about the offset/backspacing if that is something I'd need to pay attention to and whether or not there's a good solution for the suspension. Knowni need new leafs but wondered about the right shocks and possible coil overs if I can adapt those for a better ride?
Coilovers will get very expensive fast, because now you are talking welding in mounts for control arms, Trac bars and several components you don't already have... if you stay with leaf springs though, you have an advantage because there are far less obstacles in the way as far as tire clearance issues. I would think a 4.5" backspacing is still adequate to clear 33 inch tires. As for offset, kind of personal preference. The more negative you go, the further the tire will stick out past the body.... on the old CJs, I would say anywhere from a zero to a negative 6mm offset would look and behave just fine.... when shopping for them, look at what's available, and then maybe do a Google search for those specific ones on your application and see what pops up... always a great place to start. 😉
As for shocks, Bilestiens would be a great brand to consider with leaf springs, great on road ride, decent offroad, and simple. My next choice would be Rancho, but those would be more geared for the offroad as they would be a little stiffer on road.
@@JeepingForBeginners thank you for being so informative and taking the time to respond. Is there a way to know how far out the tire would sit before selecting a wheel like that? In my case, with a 2.5" lift, would I need to worry about motor mount lifts I've seen comments in or only if I lift the body also? I wouldn't need to lift the body if I'm only running 33" on 16s would I?
Buy once, cry once :D Story of my Jeep build. I went with a Metalcloak 2.5" dual rate lift with 35's. Love it. I am getting it geared to 4.88 next week (2015 JKU Sport). Having a mechanic you trust is very important too.
Thats a great bit of info especially the 3" tip. sweet and thanks for steering us in the right direction. Looking for a Jeep in the future and I'll be looking at more of your videos for sure ! Subbed :- )
All very well said and Accurate while cutting through the MAZE of products out there vying for everyone’s attention…!! ✅
Our third Jeep Wrangler now is a first year TJ (in fact was made two months before that First year started) 1997, I believe they came stock with only 26” tires on them which look Totally Ridicules in my opinion, so ours has 33x12x15’s on it with 3.5” lift which fits right in the NORM OF WHAT WE THINK A TJ WranglerShould look like 😍 and BTW, We think the TJ’s are thee Very Best Looking Jeep Wranglers EVER MADE….!!!! 😎👍👌👏🥳
I just dropped $6200 on a lift, tires, and wheels for my ‘22 JT EcoDiesel! 😫 Shipping it all to Alaska was a big piece of the cost. I went with an AEV Dualsport RT 2.5 inch lift. Running AEV Salta XR wheels with a Goodyear DuraTrac RT tire wrapped around them. Size 285/75/17 which is just a hair over 34 inches.
This truck is my daily driver and occasionally will take some light trails, dirt roads in the summer but most of the all the roads and trails are covered with snow. I’ll be installing it with my son so hopefully it all works out and the JT rides and looks so much better than stock.
Thank you for the honesty... I couldn't agree more.....
Some very good points made here and they help make a lot more sense of things out there. I am hoping the lift will help fix the bottoming out I am currently getting on my JTD.
If you are bottoming out, then really consider the shocks.... a twin tube, or variable valving shock can help with that more then just spring replacement. 🤔
@@JeepingForBeginners Oh I understand that for the most part. But this is the stock setup on my JT Sport Diesel, I upgraded to Rubi take off 33s. I have heard from sources that this was an issue from the factory. It is bad enough that if I hit a speed bump wrong I will hit the bump stop. I have had it happen on the 95 downtown catching the aqueduct bumps just right.
Well, I am sure it's not the tires. Who knows, maybe the factory shocks are blown... or defective. It happens. But I would be willing to bet, upgraded shocks would certainly calm that down
@@JeepingForBeginners I guess I will ask them to take a look at it when I go info my first oil change. I just got it in October and noticed it on the trails, we all though I was just needing that extra clearance. May be one of these days we will cross paths.
Great info for a new jeep owner. Bought my first 2 weeks ago. 2018 JLU firecracker.
Congrats! And welcome to the family! Please reach out of there is ever anything specific you would love to see! 🙃
Why the hate on the Bronco? Competition is good for all brands.
That bronco line 🤣
This was quite helpful! About a month ago i ordered a 2022 Jeep Wrangler Willys 2 door and have gotten past what size tires & wheels I want to run, but have been stuck on what size and type of lift I should get. I definitely feel more informed now thanks to you 😊
So glad I could help! 😀
Can you please explain the difference between TJ, JL and the other models. Thanks Josh great information on your videos.
That's a great idea.... I shall work on that this weekend actually. Look for it. 😉
Great basic information for people to build on.
Which is the purpose. 😀
Love that full roof rack. Where you get that from??
It's from a company called Gobi. I love it too, low profile enough to not be overly obnoxious, yet strong enough to do what I want it to do. Check them out gobiracks.com
Can you explain the differences between a leveling kit and a lift. Pros or cons between them
A leveling kit is just a small front end lift designed to remove the natural rake of the vehicle. 99% of the time, consists of just spacers. But a lift usually adds height to both front and rear of the vehicle. A leveling kit can range from 3/4 of an inch to 1.25 inches, a lift kit goes larger. Leveling is great for stance, or just leveling the vehicle, but to clear larger tires usually need a lift. Hope that helps
Like you mentioned that on a JLU I can fit 35s without the need of a lift. But can you do a segment on re-gearing both differentials depending on tire size, please
Yes, I can do that actually. Not sure why I haven't yet. Lol... look for it in the next couple of weeks. 😀😃
@@JeepingForBeginners
Can you also include regearing depending on the engine. I have a 2021 JLU 4 cylinder turbo and would like to put 33s or maybe 35s in a near future if possible
How did you get the 35s to fit? What wheel and tire combo. Looking to do this without lifting.
Thanks for the good information. I have a 2017 Wrangler Unlimited Sport. I want to put a 33 on it. I need lift, level or nothing I'm confused...I already bought some wheels 17x9 -12mm offset...
You should be able to install 33s without an issue. A leveling kit is always a good idea, but even without, I would think you would be just fine with 33s
Going to vegas in July it will be first time jeeping looking to get some experience looking to hook up with a group to do so any suggestions
Check out www.jeeping4beginners.com for upcoming events and class schedules... should have the summer schedule up soon, so keep an eye on it. May help!
@Jeeping For Beginners thank you I live in Idaho will be going over the July 29th till August 7th
but can I build an off roader with out the lift? Running JK . As a hunter, fisherman, and camper I use the jeep quite often. We're off road but not extreme. I'd rather spent two hours tracking game or getting the extra cast in than getting unstuck,,, and that time could be far better spend trying to light my camp fire than digging out trust me I need all the extreme time to build a fire . Nothing against a suspension up grade specially if it helps with my towing. But is this practical?
I want to lift my 2023 Subaru outback onyx i change the wheel rim 17 offset 40 then the tyre is bfg 225/65/17 A/T what brand can you recommend somebody told me ironman 4×4 2inches lift tnx.
1st time buying suspension i don’t know what to get
Tire size:35 lift:2 1/2
What shocks and suspension should I get for off-roading do you recommend for this?
If you are going to use it more off road, I would be looking at dual rate springs, and at least twin tube shocks. Rubicon Express, Teraflex, and Skyjacker make great entry level kits that meet those needs. But if you want a more comfortable on road feel because it will see far more pavement then dirt, I would consider Rubicon Express, BDS suspensions, or maybe, just maybe, RCX... though I am not a real fan.... keep in mind though, the performance is what you are looking for... so is it a daily driver 99% of the time, or are you looking to "wheel" it more once you modify it?
It’s gonna be 50 50 on road off-road but looking for a truck to haul it around and then it would be used only for off-road. Thanks for the suggestions I’ll go check them out
Hoping you have time to share your thoughts. I have a 79 CJ7 with the 258 4.2 inline 6 I'm restoring. Original wheels are 15 x 10.5 and tires were 31 x 11.5. With only leaf springs and shocks. I'm not the guy that sets out to destroy it on the weekend and hit the major rock crawling.. more roads but some moderate offloading from time to time. I'm looking at a 2.5" lift with 16 in wheels and 33 x 11.5" tires. What kind of lift, suspension, shocks, and offset/backspacing would I need with a moderate budget if any? I'm also a little unsure on the wheel width. Thoughts?
So if I remember correctly, the suspension you have is leaf spring front and rear... therefore lift is super simple and inexpensive as all you need are some shackles and new shocks... as for wheels, if you have a 10.5 wide now, why not use the same rims, just larger tires? A 33x12.50 tire will mount just fine... and you should not have clearance issues on that model for such a small jump in tire size. That sounds like a fun project, and we all love those old CJs... hope that helps. 😀
@@JeepingForBeginners you're correct 4 shocks and leaf springs. I can't use the same wheels. One of the matching white 15" wagon wheels is missing. Figured going to a 16 x 33 would look better and add more stability with a small 2.5 lift. Just curious about the offset/backspacing if that is something I'd need to pay attention to and whether or not there's a good solution for the suspension. Knowni need new leafs but wondered about the right shocks and possible coil overs if I can adapt those for a better ride?
Coilovers will get very expensive fast, because now you are talking welding in mounts for control arms, Trac bars and several components you don't already have... if you stay with leaf springs though, you have an advantage because there are far less obstacles in the way as far as tire clearance issues. I would think a 4.5" backspacing is still adequate to clear 33 inch tires. As for offset, kind of personal preference. The more negative you go, the further the tire will stick out past the body.... on the old CJs, I would say anywhere from a zero to a negative 6mm offset would look and behave just fine.... when shopping for them, look at what's available, and then maybe do a Google search for those specific ones on your application and see what pops up... always a great place to start. 😉
As for shocks, Bilestiens would be a great brand to consider with leaf springs, great on road ride, decent offroad, and simple. My next choice would be Rancho, but those would be more geared for the offroad as they would be a little stiffer on road.
@@JeepingForBeginners thank you for being so informative and taking the time to respond. Is there a way to know how far out the tire would sit before selecting a wheel like that? In my case, with a 2.5" lift, would I need to worry about motor mount lifts I've seen comments in or only if I lift the body also? I wouldn't need to lift the body if I'm only running 33" on 16s would I?