Shigeru Kawai SK7 vs Bösendorfer 225 Grand Pianos Review - Main Differences and Demonstration

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  • Опубліковано 23 гру 2024

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  • @ralphrestubog5519
    @ralphrestubog5519 3 роки тому +9

    The Shigeru Kawais' clarity is just surreal. It's as clear as distilled water.

  • @miltronix
    @miltronix 2 роки тому +8

    Finally, a comparison of somewhat mellow-sounding pianos! SO many on YT have excessive brilliance due to recording technique or aggressive voicing or...?

  • @rudolfpianos
    @rudolfpianos 2 роки тому +4

    Wow! The difference is striking

  • @AGC828
    @AGC828 3 роки тому +10

    I'm very impressed with the mid--range of the Shigeru. I thought the Bosendorfer would dominate. Not the case. Love the fact that Shigeru Kawai (depending where you live) will send a technician from JP to your home to voice the SK to your room acoustics. Everyone else has you rely on the dealer's service men.

  • @alxmnslv
    @alxmnslv 2 місяці тому

    Your comparisons are fantastic, you should do more.

  • @carvalca
    @carvalca 2 роки тому +6

    Bosendorfer´s sound seems louder and deeper . But I really love the SK’s sound.

  • @myuncle2
    @myuncle2 4 роки тому +4

    New mic, and great recording. They really both sound amazing.

  • @davidmcconnell4645
    @davidmcconnell4645 4 роки тому +13

    Unbelievable bass on the sk7 never heard anything like that before

    • @ralphrestubog5519
      @ralphrestubog5519 4 роки тому +5

      It's a little thinner but a lot cleaner than the full opulent sound from the Bösie

  • @bulisabahay57
    @bulisabahay57 2 роки тому +5

    I'm a Bosendorfer fan hard core. I've noticed they were recorded in different rooms. The S. Kawai had an acoustical advantage owing to the much larger space for reverberation than the one the Bösendorfer was in. The two extra inches of the S. Kawai over the Bösendorfer made a huge difference in depth. Admittedly, I preferred the depth and clarity of the S. Kawai because it was closer to the Imperial. I hope Bösendorfer redesigns the 225 because it's missing something. I've played them before and didn't like them. It's like the forgotten child in the Bösendorfer family. I much preferred the Porsche Edition 210 they built sometime back. Throw in the Grotrian Steinweg as well because that's another one of my favorites for its balance and clarity. I own a 277 because I couldn't afford the Imperial.

  • @luismigueltoromillan5195
    @luismigueltoromillan5195 4 роки тому +17

    Bosendorfer: Great bass harmonics. Kawai: Clearer sound overall. Both great. I prefer the Kawai from the sound in this video.

    • @StressKind
      @StressKind 3 роки тому +1

      I can confirm that from playing SK5 and a 192(?) Bösendorfer in a shop. Kawai has incredible transparency - I've only heard an equally nice treble in a restored 1940s Steinway L.

  • @vickiehorowitz1934
    @vickiehorowitz1934 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks for this. By the way, all shigeru kawais have the same long keystick length.

  • @benjaminsmith2287
    @benjaminsmith2287 3 роки тому +9

    I would like to see the Shigeru Kawai compared to a Bosendorfer VC piano (214VC), not the older design featured here. The VC piano has a different rim and projects much stronger and is also a new design debuting in 2015 vs 2000 for the Shigeru. So the newer design are more computer-aided in their design although traditionally manufactured. Kawais in general have a strong bass and a very full sound. The Bosendorfer has a medium body but it is noticeably lighter in body than the Shigeru Kawai. I think the Bosendorfer is a bit more plaintive in its singing tone but that Shigeru sings strongly as well.

  • @SeeYouNextLife
    @SeeYouNextLife 2 роки тому +4

    Interestingly that the Bosendorfer sounds more depressed than the SK2. I guess different pieces suit different pianos, but I can’t afford both 😓

  • @Nakestra
    @Nakestra 4 місяці тому +1

    I like Bosendorfer but man that Kawai is gold!

  • @bettyjane6684
    @bettyjane6684 3 роки тому +1

    Wonderful presentation thank you so much!

  • @elijahcsantos
    @elijahcsantos 3 роки тому +3

    Whats the piece at 0:57?

  • @edgarsiles829
    @edgarsiles829 4 місяці тому +1

    Claramente Shigeru Kawai es muy superior, un sonido melodioso, dulce y agradable al oído.

  • @parkthoven
    @parkthoven 2 роки тому +3

    I' m not argung but Bosendorfer sounds more unnecessarily relaxed than Shigeru~ Regarding cost effectivity Shigeru sounds just great~:)

  • @Kref3
    @Kref3 3 роки тому +1

    Hm... I am in general a big fan of Bösendorfers. Since years I always tell myself I need a 225. I have played the a bit smaller SK6 and liked it too, but not to the level I liked the Bösendorfers.
    I have to admit though: out of these two and based only on the sound of this video, I would probably take this SK7 above this B225

  • @flutter.engineering
    @flutter.engineering Місяць тому

    i want both with self playing mechanism....

  • @GB-ek2em
    @GB-ek2em Рік тому +2

    The SK7 is stunning. But the Bösendorfer is masterpiece.
    Would such a piano like these fit in a 26' x 18' (and a height of 13-14') room?

    • @RichardLawsonPianosLtd
      @RichardLawsonPianosLtd  Рік тому +1

      That should work well, but it also partly depends on furnishings etc in the room. Feel free to contact us for more information on this.

  • @AlotusNine
    @AlotusNine 4 роки тому +6

    I would still prefer bosendorfer. Less attack, more tempered and warm...but more expensive 😐

    • @cashmerecat9269
      @cashmerecat9269 3 роки тому

      It owns by Yamaha now.

    • @tomkelly4336
      @tomkelly4336 2 роки тому

      @@cashmerecat9269 Even though now owned by Yamaha its not like the price went down in anyway!

  • @pianomoem4730
    @pianomoem4730 3 роки тому +2

    How nice playing... amazing!
    Thank you for listen to good music.
    I hope to share music together🎶

  • @ShaneyElderberry
    @ShaneyElderberry 7 місяців тому

    Not sure what happened to the Bösendorfer’s sound, relative to their other models. The recording here almost sounds like a partition or canvas screen was placed between the microphone and piano. Perhaps the extra spruce has reduced the vibrations so substantially, that all the medium to high frequencies have reduced db.

  • @franknijhoff6009
    @franknijhoff6009 2 роки тому

    He states that Bosendorfer is the oldest surviving premium piano maker in the world (from 1828), which is not true: that accolade goes to Sauter which started in 1819.

  • @actie-reactie
    @actie-reactie 3 роки тому +2

    The bosendorfer allmost sounds like a digital piano compared to the kawai

  • @sctm81
    @sctm81 Рік тому

    Th SK7 has amazing clarity

  • @komoriszilard7297
    @komoriszilard7297 4 роки тому +12

    Shigeru Kawai! Better sound and 30% cheaper...!

  • @koyaanisrider6943
    @koyaanisrider6943 Рік тому +1

    Bösendorfer wins for me. More balanced sound, more voice-like. The Shigeru seems to have a dominant bass and sounds very round, maybe bell-like and also very beautiful. Like the Bösendorfer recorded with U-like equalizer-settings. I would like to have both. Maybe would change my mind if I played them in person.

  • @lalnunsangaasanga5801
    @lalnunsangaasanga5801 3 роки тому +1

    Bosen sound like little bit trumpet sound.Treble tone in better than kawai.

  • @Thiago-px9ev
    @Thiago-px9ev 3 роки тому

    Bösendorfer has a very stylish logo. Shigeru Kaway has a kind of a tacky one. I know it's not that important when you have a piano of this level of quality, but they could do better. I do even prefer the traditional "K. Kawai" over it.

    • @yaokuang7893
      @yaokuang7893 4 місяці тому

      Couldn’t agree more! Took me quite a while to accept the font/design of the logo. maybe other people are fine with it but It just looks messy/disturbing to me.

  • @puggaming450
    @puggaming450 8 місяців тому

    I think we know who won bosendorfer

  • @Beyondabsence
    @Beyondabsence Рік тому

    Both are wonderful pianos. The K7 is slightly out of tune, reason why it doesn't sound as good as the Bosendorfer in this case.

  • @fernandogadala-maria6749
    @fernandogadala-maria6749 3 роки тому +2

    The Bosendorfer has a Richer sound. The S Kawai is nice but lacks the colored and articulate sound of premium pianos. You can only compare Bosendorfer to a Hamburg Steinway, a Fazioli, a Bluthner, a Sauter, a Grotrian Steinweg But never to a Japanese piano of any caliber Sorry. They just don’t compare. I would compare the S Kawai to a Schimmel premium Konzert Grand or a Yamaha CXF

    • @benedictdsilva3954
      @benedictdsilva3954 3 роки тому

      Yes...Don't forget August Forster and Steingraeber and C Bechstein...I would bring the Sauter and Grotrian down a bit...

    • @patrickjones8255
      @patrickjones8255 3 роки тому +6

      I find you to be wrong. The s kawai has an amazingly balanced and rich sound. Superior in some ways (not all) than a bösendorfer.

    • @patrickjones8255
      @patrickjones8255 3 роки тому +1

      ua-cam.com/video/WCqlYvjv8x4/v-deo.html
      Here is a better recording of a top end S Kawai. They recorded the Kawai and bosendorfer in different rooms in this video which I don't think is fair to their true sound.

    • @patrickjones8255
      @patrickjones8255 3 роки тому +1

      In fact. I find the Kawai to be very very similar to fazioli in sound and temper. Whereas a bösendorfer is a much different texture.

    • @fernandogadala-maria6749
      @fernandogadala-maria6749 3 роки тому

      @@patrickjones8255 I appreciate your response, thank you ! I have yet to find a Shigeru Kawai that has a permium piano sound. I have just come across a 2001 Mason & Hamlin A which is a 5' 8" grand piano that has an amazing premium sound. Top Tier pianos are not easy to find. Maybe you have been lucky to have found great Shigeru Kaway grand pianos, I have not.

  • @ruozhuoli6386
    @ruozhuoli6386 5 місяців тому

    Bosendorfer for me.