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Jeff, thank you so much for featuring me in this video. It turned out great! Folks who have commented or reached out about my anxiety disorder, thank you so much for caring. Good news, it's entirely due to steroids, and those I take entirely voluntary with no compulsion or addiction. As soon as I want, I can stop them and within days I don't have severe anxiety disorder anymore and within weeks I barely have anxiety at all. I HATE how they make me feel, but I have a few goals in bodybuilding left to accomplish, so I deal with it. I have a knack for doing very hard things that take a long time, so this is right up my alley. No need to worry about me! PS: If I die before my due time from the cardiovascular shit... it's been real and this is what I wanted. Do not ever feel the need to be sympathetic of me. - Dr. Mike
Why are you feeling cheated ? You were always going to be bald. Had you started juicing in your teens, you would have lost your hair even sooner than you did. It’s like feeling cheated over something you never had in the first place. Juicing doesn’t turn people that weren’t going to be bald, bald. If you genetically were going to suffer from male pattern baldness, steroids would have just accelerated that process.
So benefits of steroids: - get bigger muscles The downsides: - acne - small balls that stop producing your own testosterone - baldness - abscess risk - anxiety, random rage, constant high libido - man-boobs - higher risk for heart failure - lower IQ, older Brain - when taken at a young age you might stop growing in height and mentally Is this worth it?
My best friend died of heart failure at 43 years old. He openly admitted that he regularly used steroids. He was convinced he was being safe in his steroid use. I told him he needed to stop but he just wouldn't listen. His kids had to grow up without their father and I've been without a friend that I've loved since childhood.
@bugattidragon1237 not all steroids do the same amount of harm. Test only cycles are pretty safe if you get your blood work regularly and take a moderate dosage. It's tren and most of the oral steroids that can really mess you up
My boyfriend went into heart failure and died when we were on our way to an oncologist for a consult about a 10cm mass on his kidney. Only after going through his things did I find that he had been using steroids (equipoise and tren) for the entire time that we had been dating. I miss him every day
For those wondering about the title, the channel "kurzgesagt" recently made a video titled "Smoking is awesome" and it follows the same narrative, down to the "let's smoke a cigarette together" and then go through the physiological effects. Many people commented it was the best anti-smoking video they'd ever seen and I think it's an awesome idea by Jeff to make a "mirror video" about steroids. They will be a huge health burden for many in the near future.
@@hunivan7672 How is that? Explaining the effects of steroids in no way judges them morally. There is no "steroids are good/bad" in "steroids cause hairloss"
@@ConsensusX provided you can have access to affordable, clean roids, good insurance, someone willing to work with you and not just reddit, discipline, the ability to moderate, relatively good mental health, no underlying health issues, a willingness to alienate those around you, yeah, you're set
Brother died, he was supervised by doctors. His gains were incredible but his heart got too big till it stopped. He used roids for 8 years. Died at age 29. No condolences!
Dr. Mike not sounding so great in this one. As someone with severe anxiety but without steroids, my heart goes out to him because I can hear the pain behind his voice from it.
Same. Actually lifting was part of getting me out of anxiety disorder. It's long behind me at this point and I can't imagine choosing it willingly as a trade off.
Working on infarctus emergencies here : We get A LOT of fitness coaches & influencers & bodybuilder in their 40's getting infarctuses, getting extremely severe cardiac failures (Left ventricle with ejection fraction as low as a 80 years old grandma). They are big, they have abs, they are often extremely well groomed, tanned but their heart is collasping before our eyes and we can only save them a few months / years and they are only 35/40. Take care young guys
Steroids are medicine. There are countless more that are perfectly fine and never need to go to the hospital. Steroids have been proven to be healthy and helpful when used correctly, they are medicine.
@@juandoe7802Most likely big cities with a high amount of influencers and a strong gym culture, like Huston, NYC, and LA. Volunteered as an EMT, there were a lot of calls to gyms for a heart attack/failure due to some form of steroid use. If I had anything to say to kids and young adults that are thinking of or are already doing steroids, just stop, y’all aren’t built different, there are long term health effects that far outweighs putting on an extra 10-20lbs of muscle.
This is an amazing video. I am 20 in September; have been lifting for a few years. Recently started increasing the intensity of my gym sessions and focusing on a proper diet. I have already started noticing faster gains. I often get compliments of my friends who do not lift that I am ‘wham’, needless to say when I’m in the gym I feel small. So many people do steroids now it takes away from the people who put in even more effort naturally… I am always debating if I should start a cycle. You have made me realise I am on the right path. The journey might be harder, slower and more painful but in the end it will be worth it. The gym is about getting healthy, not becoming unhealthy to have big guns. Don’t take steroids people!
It is your choice. For instance I started at age 37 after years of research to see the true risks... But yes, you can choose to "have big guns" lol. But I found at my age, muscle wasn't the most extreme benefit, decreased depression and enhanced mood, increased energy and less need for sleep, libido of a teenager, extreme confidence, those were much more noticeable than some popping veins or big guns... Of course the physique change got me alot of attention and compliments and turns heads.
Start the cycle if you want to look like an absolute fkn freak show, with a physique that makes you look like tumours are popping out your body, and that the vast majority of women are repulsed by.
I think the worst part about this is that healthy young people by and large *cannot* understand how life-ruining it is to have significant heart issues, for example. It's one thing to read or even hear testimonials about it, but at the end of the day everybody thinks they're special until they need to be careful climbing stairs.
Even though its good more fitness influencers are being honest about the gear, the problem is they never talk about the negative long term effects. I remember when Larry Wheels made his video talking about stopping his gear people just glossed over the small part where he mentioned he still was taking TRT (AKA...steroids...) because his body literally would no longer make testosterone. They just spent the whole time gushing over the fact that he was actually talking about his gear use. Its almost as though it has become normalized, which is what makes it so dangerous to younger people. They will always be less likely to worry about future consequences in favor of immediate benefits, especially in todays world where instant gratification has become the norm.
I would add that it really seems to be even more terrifying in the US than in Europe. Because here, it's already much harder to get. And above all, there are hundreds and hundreds of studies on the ( negative ) effects of steroids, and they're regularly broadcast on the news, radio, internet etc. I really get the feeling that Americans aren't interested in scientific studies and rely on "bro science".
As a woman, this is very similar to plastic surgery in the beauty world. A lot of women get praised for being 'transparent' about plastic surgery, which I get, but then that's also lead to a huge influx of plastic surgery operations. The side effects are much more rarely discussed, but the popularity increases on a daily basis, which then leads to increased feelings of dissatisfaction/body dysmorphia --> more surgery.
But cyber enhancements are right around the corner, so isn't it better we start talking about BOTH the good and bad sides? In this echo age, we're aren't even able to get challenged in our own believes, the algorithms are making sure of it. So if you choose to only inform about one side of whatever, the audience will by default be someone that agrees with you. Take Jeff here, his bias is certainly controlling this video, so it'll mostly be shown for like-minded. In terms of legit criticisms and actually starting a proper discussion, this video isn't delivering.
@@algirdasltu1389 Erhm... You should really do some research into the chemicals in our food. There's (among many) estrogen derivatives used as preservatives. Check out the chemicals in your bathroom products, like shower gel and deodorant/parfume. Based on your comment, you're in for quite a shock
@@algirdasltu1389 When was the last time you researched what's in your shower gel or deodorant? How about the estrogen derivatives used as preservatives in our food? How about what drinking milk does to adult males?
But surgeries are permanent aren't they ? In steroids , you'll lose all muscles because the testes are half the size so no testosterone hence no muscle growth like before
He was on a podcast which was called something like "trensparent" and I watched maybe 30 mins of it. Damn that shit went wayyy too deep lol. He was talking about 10000 other compounds you have to take to stay moderately healthy and how on cycle he isn't able to feel happiness like he is off cycle
It hurts my soul to hear Dr Mike talk like this: very "out-of-breath"-like, small bursts of talking, short breaks, that tremor... I think in this particular video you can nearly feel the anxiety. How much worse it must feel for him, i can't comprehend... a very noticable difference to the usual
Psychedelics definitely have potential to deal with health issues like anxiety and depression, I would like to try them but it's just hard to source out here.
I was having this constant and unbearable anxiety because of university stress. Not until I came across Ted Winston, a very intelligent mycologist, He saved my life honestly.
The most sad part about it is that he put so much time and effort into making this video and it will be 100% de-monetized due to the word "steroids" and the thumbnail, while still providing super valuable insights and really trying to make people understand why it is so important to not do something dangerous that we don't even fully understand yet but already has so many proven side effects. I'm looking forward to seeing Jeff's study about maximizing natural potential after lifting regularly for already so many years. Unfortunately the spotlight is moving towards enhanced people, I'm sure nevertheless that people like him will always have a following due to the high transparency and quality content that he keeps providing
So... Are you gonna go watch the movies about how cardio can destroy your knees early, how streaming eats away at your brain, that includes UA-cam (the 20 year IQ drop is about 3 times as high as before streaming, in other words significantly worse than the effects of SOME steroids), how much poisonous gas and particles we inhale everyday, how much sugar destroys our body and how much worse "light" products really are. Then add in something about the suns fantastic ability to give skin cancer. There, now you're scared of everything and will never do anything in your life again... Brillant comment...
There is absolutely no way I would ever do anything UA-camrs warn about, which means I'll never go outside again or do anything ever! Man I love UA-cam, bro science is da bomb
JFC... Oxygen is bad for you, so is water, so is literally everything in the world. Steroids are of course bad for you too, but just iwth literally everything else - its about moderation and management, and your attitude towards risk. This UA-camr is a 'Natty' so his bias is of course shining through, even though he is 'talking about the GOOD as well as the bad'... except, he is really leaning into the bad and not the likelyhood of bad etc. Its a very "Steroids good, but also BAAD m'kay!"
@@John-mk3oe It would be wildly irresponsible to the point of idiotic to recommend any specific details of steroid use to the general youtube public. Dr. Mike isn't an idiot.
@@Kevin-ok8dj He did say he was dealing with clinical anxiety, but you also couple that with being so open about something that ha such stigma, its completely understandable
@@patrickselwood All the studies show that adverse effects are dose and duration dependent. Without giving the dose/duration, any adverse effects are meaningless.
33 year old natural lifter here. I've been lifting ever since I was 11 years old. Competed in some natural bodybuilding competitions in my 20s. Solid overall physique. Thinking about going on TRT in the future when I turn 45 years old or so, when the natural testosterone is on a decrease. I would love to see a video specifically on starting steroids in your mid 40s or early 50s, under the guidance of a doctor or nurse (looking specifically at healthy individuals who have never touched steroids prior to this, who have been training for 10+ years, and have built a solid foundation + stick to other overall good health options). I would love to see a video detailing the results of these findings, and the benefits vs. drawbacks. Great video. Thanks Jeff.
I've got a great channel recommendation then. Search "Ask the Doc" and the channel is MuscleInsider... He runs a trt clinic in Cali I believe and is an ex BB and deals with clients that take everything but especially basic trt or moderate testosterone. I've been using testosterone full time for 8 years since I was 37. My anecdotal experience is that testosterone is extremely mild. There are all these scare stories about dead BBs and "steroids are so dangerous and full of sides..." But rarely do articles distinguish JUST TEST use vs ALL the steroids that exist, and BBs take insulin typically and don't just do test. I've found it will give you a great boost and make cutting way easier due to muscle sparing. It increases libido and mood and you require less sleep you'll notice. You'll get great gains on anything from 300mg to 600mg and those are moderate and safe dosages and myself and other forum users found is mild enough you don't even need an ai to prevent gyno. But 120mg up to 200mg is considered trt or mini cycle territory. But research I've seen shows no health drawbacks using 600mg indefinitely, so I'm not afraid to take this dosage and get the added benefits. I've never gone over this dosage and don't want to. As for health, I really can't say much and it's anecdotal anyways. I'm not balding genetically and it hasn't affected my hair. All my blood work has been normal... My biggest fear is cardiovascular as I have no idea how to gauge or monitor the heart, I fear that hardening or enlargement of the heart could occur which would shorten lifespan. Hope that helps but check out that channel. Tons of great info and questions answered from a source way more authoritative than myself.
You gotta give props to Jeff because even though he’s been struggling with feeling like he’s at his natural limit and smaller than other fitness influencers, he’s doubling down and working his ass off to really push his body to its limit. Inspirational stuff man
@@lecobra418 if he wasn't so short i would think yeah no way he is natural but its marginally easier for a shorter guy to have a proportionately wide frame and big muscles if he were 6'5 he would probably look fairly muscular and a bit lean, but just look skinny with clothes on
I can tell dr mike was literally dealing with anxiety as he was talking, the crack in his voice as if he’s in fear, he lightens up as the interview goes on but in the beginning you can tell. I hope after his competition he lays off the gear and gets back to being healthy
What’s crazy is that people are catching on to what non natty builds look like and they get less respect. So they wanted to do something harmful to look cool, and end up looking extremely lame anyway.
If you're going to take an upper, I beg all of you to take just regular pharmaceutical dexamphetamine (Amphetamine, speed). Not methamphetamine. Just amphetamine. It's not neurotoxic unless of course you overdose or take it chronically in highly sustained and highly repeated non therapeutic doses (all things are neurotoxic at some point, of course the ceiling is lower with neurologically active substances). However there IS A REASON that fighter pilots take this shit, there's a reason it's given to people with severe ADHD like myself, there's a reason test pilots, navy seals, the lunar landings
@@ShortKingofKings Or maybe the reason why we take amphetamines is to meet the unrealistic expectations and demands of modern work society that is unsustainable for humans and that is why we are developing mental health disorders such as ADHD at an exponential rate
A friend from school 'got on the gear' when he was 19/20.... got properly massive, but he also got fat with it. He trimmed down in his early 30's but the damage was already done and his heart gave out at age 38. RIP Tim McCoy.
@@steveleamont Trt are sustainable, for some people even healthier than naty. How much you take for how long and what kind of condition you got and dna plays a big role
@@steveleamont steroid users generally die earlier then non users this is a fact, just cause your friend isn't using them and got a heart attack, doesn't mean that using them is safe, this is the bias alot of users have and good talk that they use
Prize: Big muscles Cost: Greater risk of heart failure; Heart problems; High levels of anxiety; Degradation of intelligence; Accelerated brain aging; Hair loss / baldness; Breast formation; Testicular shrinkage; Dependence on testosterone injections; Oily skin; Acne; Psychological problems; Excessive libido; Greater risk of injuries; Shorter life expectancy; Stunted growth (height); Impedes brain development; Dependency It doesn't even make sense for anyone in their right mind to consider using steroids 💀
Personally I agree with you, but unfortunately a lot people are okay with the trade off (in the moment usually) and don't typically regret it until it's too late...
Been on for 6 years and have only had elevated sex drive, strength and size gains. None of the negatives either physical or psychological. 34 and still have a full head of hair lol
Another thing that they didn't go into is if you use steroids and also use other substances it can be extremely dangerous. Mixing some drugs with steroids will straight up kill you.
Due to major kidney failure & years of antibiotics & pain meds & not able to work out, my Test level was around 200! Crazy low. Thank God he healed me from needing dialysis, I was on it for over a year, I've been off close to 3 years now! So over the last year I've been feeling much better, so much better I began doing very light workouts, I began testosterone 9 weeks ago & I can actually sleep now & I have so much more energy. I actually did 10 pushups last night! lol sounds silly, but when I 1st started I could only do 2!
On the dialysis, when I had to start it , my kidney function was under 3%, when the Docs decided to take me off dialysis, my kidney function had jumped to over 18%. This just does not ever happen! Once kidney tissue is dead, it ain't coming back! Its a true medical miracle that my docs cannot explain! Amen!
My buddy passed away from a heart attack at 27. He had a existing heart condition he didn’t know about. He was a bodybuilder and had aspirations to compete. I still can’t believe how he passed away especially how I was thinking myself of getting on.
@@CrimpKeeper Hold on, are you serious? There is no safe way to use steroids. Even if there were, it would involve significant risks. Would you really consider that, knowing all the potential side effects? I honestly believe that people who feel they need steroids just to appear bigger should consider psychological support instead of wasting their money. With all due respect to those who have lost their lives, it is our duty to spread awareness about the consequences of using these drugs. Your comment potentially encourages others to research how to use steroids "safely," which is not okay. We need to be more responsible with our words.
@@gerardporta177The guy is either a troll, or brain dead from his own steroid use. I completely agree regarding those feeling they want or need steroids seeking psychological help. There's clearly some form of body dysmorphia that needs addressing.
@@BoschBoschBabElHoshThe worst form? The guy has a doctorate in Sport Physiology which he received from East Tennessee State University. He's way more qualified than you'll ever be 😂😂😂
On another podcast or video, maybe from a couple years ago, he said that he's had panic attacks in the shower from taking steroids. It's crazy, and it sounds like it might be getting worse for him.
@@philippelevesque5223 with all that paper he cant last a day without roids and still looks very bad. Biggest joke in the industri Mike... sorry Dr mike hahah
I am a 67 years old amateur power lifter and fitness trainer and I have been exercising for over 50 years. I weigh 80 kilos and I still have a nice muscular figure I'm not big as a bodybuilder. I still exercise four times a week for two hours a day I never use steroids am still strong and I am healthy.
Jeff, I've appreciated your work for some time, but I think this is the best video you have ever put out. I'm grateful for your guest experts and their honesty as well. Good stuff. Keep it up!
Took a few years on the entire internet for someone to finally make a proper video on steroids and what happens (visual and acoustic presentation). And this is why you have 4m+ subs. Thank you.
I'm not a body builder. I am a 100% permanent and total disabled combat veteran. I've had two heart surgeries, a traumatic brain injury, and multiple knee surgeries. My test is just checked at 190. I'm 45 and a man. The Veterans Hospital will be putting me on TRT therapy. The last time they had me on it, I lost my fking hair. I want my levels to normal, but I don't want the side effects. Not sure what to do.
@JeffNippard physician here chiming in. I work in a specialty that I come across many patients young and old that have used or are now using anabolic steroids. I really appreciate that you bring to light some of these real concerns. I have spoken with colleagues about this paradoxical effect that increased honesty amongst influencers has had on steroid usage, and that complete honesty is still not achieved by just stating that they are taking steroids and sometimes specifics about cycles. Again, very much appreciated and keep up the good work!
There is no scientific evidence of any what he said in the video except that it makes your muscle grow (when you train) and that it has some affect to your hormones.
It seems like a paradox, but its how shaming and taboos work. The more you speak of something, doesnt matter if in a good or bad light, it will make it less scary thus more popular. It hurts to say but this video will get more people into steroids because most kids, not only cannot sit down and pay attention for 15 mins, they wont have the "fear" that previous generations had, because everyone talks about it. Its the taboo that kept most people off of steroids, not information factually showing why its bad. So now, at this point, you have to go full on "why steroids are bad" and make every parent teach to their kids, if you want a positive influence. Anything shorter than that, will end more kids
@@newme1589 The increased problem with steroids and some of the ratchet behavior with men and women is because of the many morons that give attention to "fitness influencers" that is leading to more problems. You have complete strangers that go onto social media for attention, and narcissism and cash that will say and do anything to create engagement and bring them money. The problem is that these "influencers" exist. People need to stop giving these "influencer" clowns attention.
I just wanna say, I really appreciated not only the information but also the honesty from Mike in the interview segment. I've had anxiety disorder, all the way up to panic disorder, and the willpower he is showing just to sit through that experience when his anxiety is probably telling him to run is impressive and inspiring. Props to him and to you for your always fire content.
Hi Jeff! I just wanted to remind you, when you are thinking about taking steroids that you are also an influencer for many people that want to build natural bodies and for some, maybe an idol. Like the bodybuilders that influence people by saying they take steroids, you also have influence by doing the opposite. You show people that you can have actual progress without taking steroids and also have a healthy life in general. I really appreciate your mindset of "maybe I am at my max, and that is okay". More people should think like you. If we always long for the next step or gain, we never appreciate how far we've come.
There is a video on his channel dedicated to the side effects of PEDs, well worth a watch! The way this was cut, colour graded and underlaid with sad music made it seem a little more weepy than Mike intended, see his own comment above. But anyways, I agree that him being to the point and honest about the side effects is very valuable.
@@WolfNRaven There's a recent Kurzgesagt video about the side effects of smoking cigarettes that is titled "Smoking is Awesome," and the video clearly explains the benefits and downsides of smoking. It's a very objective video and makes it clear that there are benefits to smoking, but also make it very clear just how not worth it the benefits are given how bad the downsides are. Seems similar to this video from Jeff (so far, I'm only a few minutes in)
ZERO STEROIDS for me!! One study talked about the deaths, one needs to be done on the quality of life. Flex, Colman, etc. are so messed up! I almost did it, I came along with Flex and I used to workout with one of Lee Haney’s guys, but now I am soooo glad that I did not shoot up!!🙏🏾
Stay natty, Jeff! You’re already jacked and we need heroes who maintain their sanity. You look great man, don’t get greedy and sell yourself out. You don’t have to be a crusader, but there are reasons you haven’t injected yet. And if you’re worried about not keeping up with the other influencers, just remember that there’s already 1000 jacked steroid users fighting for those clicks. How many natty’s are on your level? Very few. It’s important work you’re doing, imo.
I've been dealing with anxiety for a few years, although not because of steroids. I would like to ask the comment section to have more empathy for Dr. Mike. Calling him a drug addict and saying this is his own fault isn't necessary. Most people probably can't relate but anxiety can really be the worst thing in the world. Just the fucking worst. I salute him from being open about it and wish him the best.
I have a very bad anxiety disorder left from drug use (not steroids). I used to take benzos for 10 years, but I stopped because I don't want to use anything anymore. I have an understanding for everyone who suffers from this and I don't judge anyone
Anxiety is horrific but he’s choosing it, it makes no damn sense to me that you could ever want to do that to yourself but that goes back to this is clearly an addiction for him and I hope he gets a handle on it soon.
2:55 this is a brilliant point to raise. I have heart problems already, I know people that have had holes in their heart and I can't imagine putting my pumper through any more.
Dr. Mike gives good advice, I could hear the anxiousness in his voice, its concerning I watch his channel too, hope he keeps it together, mad respect for his honesty
I abused steroids in my 20s for about 3 years straight, blast and cruise, never cycled off. When I finally decided it wasn’t worth it, there had already been some permanent damage. Within months I experienced severe mental health problems. I couldn’t focus on anything, was overwhelmed by anxiety most of the time, and lost any ambition to accomplish anything. Eventually I sought help, and tried anti depressants, anti anxiety meds, and even ADHD medication. While these drugs certainly did something, they didn’t treat the underlying issue, and their effects lost potency over time. Eventually, I was encouraged by a friend to check my test levels. I was 33 at the time, and my test was 302 ng. While this is technically within normal range (barely) I was still encouraged by my dr to try TRT and see how I respond. I feel normal now. Very grateful for TRT.
@@nickps2251he did not but even if u do, steroids cause permanent damage to your organs and have side effects u can see as well like female breast tissue
I just wanted to let you know how helpful and useful this video was for me. As a 14 year old teen that has been lifting for around a year and a half now steroids have been a very confusing topic for me because of how many influencers use steroids now and aren’t honest about it. it’s hard to set realistic standards nowadays because of this issue and I’ve struggled to set realistic goals on my weightlifting journey because of this. This video also helped me understand what steroids do and the pros and cons of them. I have now realized I will never do steroids ever and I would love to see how far I am able to get naturally just like you. Thank you for everything you have done for the fitness community and please keep keeping on because with all these amazing videos I think you have become one of my favorite people to watch. Thanks
Bro, you’re 14. You shouldn’t have even been thinking about doing gear in the first place, because you don’t need it at your age. Maybe when you’re in your 40s you’ll benefit from it, but until you hit that age, your test levels will be naturally high, so you will make gains, especially in your late teens to mid 20s. Gear also makes you infertile while you’re on it, so if you want to have a family somewhere down the line, it’s best not to do gear.
You're 14 ffs. Don't go near any gear. Not only will it have debilitating health effects it won't actually make much difference to you. Because you're 14...
Your comment shows a level headed young man, whoever helped you get to where you are should be proud. I can't imagine how hard it would be growing up in the modern age with so much conflicting information at your disposal. But judging by your comment, I think you'll make good choices in your life, as the key is to fully evaluate your significant life choices. As someone who has made all manner of good and bad decisions throughout my life, I can say that what is ultimately important is longevity. Focus your goals on being able to be as mobile as possible so that you can enjoy life for as long as possible and get the most out of it. Being huge isn't necessarily best for your health in the long run, I think calisthenics is really the best way to go. But whatever you do and however you train, best of luck for the future.
I wanna say I really appreciate how articulate and mature you are for only being 14. Definitely ahead of where I was. Keep on the path you’re on and you’ll be solid. Good shit kid
If you use steroids, you have got to question your own self image and ask if you have a psychological disorder. You will achieve greater happiness being happy with yourself than chasing what you're naturally not. Let face it, results of gear are only temporary, inner peace is forever.
to me, a lifter of 15 years, the point of lifting is to stay younger for longer; I've never used gear, but have experimented with "testosterone boosters" like DAA (still currently take it). In my early 20's, it was to become the biggest, baddest, strongest dude that everyone respects, but as I matured I realize that was just me compensating for my inferiority complex I had. Now it's all about health, both physical and mental.
I used a "TRT" mini cycle a few years ago and something that wasn't mentioned but worth noting in my case is that if you suffer from depression it probably isn't smart to do this. Steroids may cause anxiety dose dependently but they also make you feel more confident, they make you feel powerful and like you're in control. It 100% cured my depression while I used them, that said nothing since then has ever made me feel that way again. I long for that feeling more than I do to get bigger, unless you're willing to commit for life just don't do it yet. Committing for life also means accepting you probably won't have kids since you'll always be cruising it, so either be okay with that or prepare at a "milk" bank so you still can. Personally I plan to wait until I've had a family and don't want more kids before getting back on permanently.
There's TGT (Total Hormone Therapy) which adds an every other day pill which keeps your balls turned on. Doing a TRT/TGT under doctor supervison with a prescription... Test, estrogen blocker, & one to keep your balls active from a prescription under doctors supervison with blood work every 3 months. In a year on it the doctor has had to reduce my dosage twice as i went well above the 1000 mark
@@badass1g from what I understand in most cases pct can generally help with fertility before the age of 40. Have you ever tried that or have you just stayed on? I’m not sure if the longer you cycle if it can make the whole process of regaining fertility harder or not
One point to consider that adds complexity to the question of steroids is the psychological makeup of those who take it and how much these tend to become bullies as their bodies grow. The relationship between severe narcissism, aggressive behavior and steroid intake deserves a careful study.
Jeff, this video is an absolute game-changer! As someone who's been lifting for over 10 years, the constant pressure to hop on gear has always been there. Seeing someone with your influence take such a balanced and informative approach to this topic is incredibly refreshing. It really emphasizes the importance of staying natural and focusing on long-term health. Your dedication and transparency are truly inspiring. Keep up the fantastic work! 💪
constant pressure to get on gear? who do YOU hang out with? steroids would have to be the biggest secret people keep but people are pressuring you to take them? what BS., you're talking about giving in to your ego and probably want that pat on the back nobody has given you for being " so strong "
@@zake64 Zionism, climate change and steroids are topics filled with agenda/bias. The masses don't think critically and are influenced by all this manipulative propaganda. They can't separate the important facts from the unimportant ones. Four cosmetic side effects of Testosterone should NOT be listed next to life threatening possible side effects. That's mind manipulation created to motivate young cosmetic obsessed people from even considering steroids. The "authorities" all do it. I see straight through it now because I studied it.
My main thing with steroids is that people forget the actual potential of the human body as well as what the true meaning of bodybuilding is. Currently(on social media) bodybuilding is equated with how freaky you can look, how dickskin lean you can be, and how much weight you can throw up and use all those things to either sell programs or get clients. But true bodybuilding used to be about building a aesthetic, beautifully powerful, muscle bound body- Building. A body. Training it and progressing in movements, enjoying the joy of pushing yourself and then reaping the fruits of your labor by achieving large muscles. Large muscles which symbolically and literally represent self improvement, progress, vitality, strength, and good health. Bodybuilding is about building a body in which you exist in forever, into a statuesque entity. Bodybuilding is respecting your ability as a human to develop and push yourself out of mediocrity and have great physical capabilities. Bodybuilding is and should be a medium through which you become the best version of you, for yourself, for your family and your loved ones to be strong and healthy to play and live a long happy life. But currently because of social media it all belongs to how many clicks you can get, what drama you can stur up, controversial opinions, and the abuse of steriods in order to fit into a crowd and make money in the industry. Its become a business instead of a physical practice. Steroid use and abuse is so abundant because there is barely anyone normal anymore, every week you see a freak on instagram you see a more heavier, bigger, stronger person on youtube everyday. And because of that gap between the pre existing abusers and the naturals who get anxiety and form a lack of patience- results in another victim who falls under the guise of steroids. The average man can achieve every single they want in bodybuilding as long as they learn how to program, train hard, eat well, and sleep. As well as achieve their physique/strength while also living ling enough to see their grandchildren get married. Steroids only form an external factor for you to latch onto in order to get quick results and immediate gratification. But there is no sense of fulfillment. Its never just one cycle. You take one cycle, get resulsts then come off of it- the results you got wash away. There is no permanance to your results. Because you didnt build that muscle, the steroids did. So one cycle turns into 3 and 3 cycles turns into a laundry list of substances that you have to track and monitor in order to maintain your externally achieved physique. Not to mention the crippling body dysmorphia, aggressively low self esteem (despite the large physique),eating disorders, heart problems, and injuries. So now you have to spend a shit ton of money, to buy all your gear, you're not even a little happy with how you look, you got crippling depression, you barely enjoy your training, and your hearts probably gonna fail by 50. Steroids arent worth it man. Train hard, keep realistic goals but know theres a LOT. That is possible, sleep well, and eat whole foods and some cookies too. Have some fucking fun training and enjoy laughing with your grandkids at 80 years old with a healthy pair of lungs, strong bones, and a joyous heart.
Professional yapper over here, Jesus Christ. You're describing what you think bodybuilding should be, not what it ever was. Bodybuilding hasn't been healthy for at least 5 decades now.
Very well written and thought out comment, I appreciated reading it and thought I should leave a comment to counter the douchedick who left the other one. Cheers
My main thing is, that bodybuilders lose their life very quick - they usually unalive at 50, like a marathonrunner. If that doesn't happen, your body, all crippled, will have you end up in a wheelchair - like Ronnie Coleman.
There was rampant use of steriods in the military in the 80s. I remember watching friends of mine get huge within 6 months. And then watched them have the health issues. One close friend started lactating. The top BDUs were soaked by the end of the day. The ache. The rage. The military banned any and all steroids use. Legal Consequences of Steroid Use in the Military Specifically, the use, possession, distribution, or manufacture of a Schedule III substance - such as anabolic steroids and testosterone - can result in dishonorable discharge, reduction in rank, forfeiture of pay, and confinement for up to five years. The military banned it for a reason.
Outstanding video. Jeff, I started following you almost 10 years ago when I first got into weightlifting. It started as something to stay in shape as I had recently got a desk job. It quickly turned into an obsession as I started noticing gains and learning more about all of it. Your channel was instrumental not only in my learning journey, but also keeping me from going down the steroid route. It’s funny now to think that I almost took the plunge. I had friends on it and others in the gym were on it. It was very tempting. Looking back, I would have felt like an idiot for going down that road. I’m 31 now and married for 6 years. Steroids would have impacted my life in significantly negative ways, and I’m glad i didn’t go down that road. Thanks for doing what you do for the fitness community. You really care about what’s best for peoples lives in the big picture, and it shows.
I respect Dr. Mike and his honesty. With so much misinformation out there, it’s refreshing to say the least. I’m appreciative that he got so vulnerable. Thanks for compiling this Jeff.
I had a friend who took a bunch of steroids and ended up going to the ER four times over the next two months thinking he was dying. Every time he went, the hospital told him it was just anxiety. There are so many expressions of "strength" worth pursuing, would love to see a movement of strong lifters who also build strong families, strong marriages, strong careers, strong friendships, and shoot, strong relationships with God too. That's my angle! Great video Jeff!
Yeah, the longer I explore this space the less captivated I am by my initial pursuit of physical size and strength. I’m learning to be content with what I already have.
I love people like Jeff and Dr. Mike Israetel! they are strictly about science, proof, and most importantly RESULTS THAT CAN BE REPLICATED! You don't see that today with people in almost all industries or communities. Horrible conspiracy theories, bad anecdotes, and misinformation is at an all time high. People think they know better than scientist and think everything in the world is corrupt. It's people like these two, that fight back against all of it in the best way! I'm not extremely educated or an academic, but I look up to our greatest minds to teach us all the incredible things there are in this life.
I'm a 61 yr old gay man. (this is relevant) I have always been skinny and been in the gym with extremely limited results which have kept me on the very slim side. In the gay community, there are a large portion of guys who juice so they can look hot on the dance floor and have better options for who to get laid with. I've always wanted to be in that position until recently when I realized that confidence weights so much more than muscle. People are naturally attracted to confidence. This took me 40 yrs to realize. I have put it into practice and it has proven itself to be true. During the lockdown, I got a chin up bar and some resistance bands. I've been using them nearly every day since and I have made some gains and I look SO much better but I am still unable to really fill out a medium size t-shirt. I have only now, seriously considered doing one cycle just to put me over the edge, then stop and maintain. After watching this, I have decided against that and just continue to sweat it out and grow naturally as my metabolism slows down. The final question is "who am I doing this for?" Steroids mean, for others; natural means for me.
One cycle is not gonna do much, in all honesty. You're going to make really good progress, and then when you cycle off, you're going to lose a large amount of what you gained on-cycle. It will take a massive amount of mental fortitude to do just one cycle, because you will fall in love with your progress made in those 10 weeks. No one really just does one cycle.
It's good to occasionally take rests from working out, especially the older you get. Every other day working out is perfectly fine, and often better for results for a good percentage of people. The body needs rest. Cheers, and best to you.
At 61 years old, you don’t need to juice. If you’ve never picked it up. Don’t start. ALTHOUGH i will say you would probably have benefits to your health/physiology if you started TRT. But. that’s just my opinion. If you’ve got the confidence. Rock on. 🏳️🌈
Me: Recommends Jeff Nippard to everyone, including my family, because I consider him to be one of the best ,most responsible and knowledgeable fitness influencers. Jeff: STEROIDS ARE AWESOME
I personally wish we could go back to the silver era of weight lifting. Where everyone was natural. As a woman I had fears about looking like those women who are on steroids, without realizing that they were on gear. Then I had a friend of mine introduce me to pictures of silver era female body builders, they were slim and feminine, yet strong. So that inspired me to start lifting. My mother died at 29 and I'm currently 28 with a toddler, I want to be healthy and live a long time for my daughter. ❤ Thank you, Jeff, for showing people that its possible.
Good on you, Nippard, for admitting your gear “ponderings”. It’s a bird that flies over my head about once a week. What keeps the urge at bay is I’d have to be on TRT the rest of my life, and for me, that’s the biggest deterrent. Being healthy and taking my body to its potential while taking care of it has always been the goal. Thank you for the transparency and the on point content as always
I had to go on TRT anyway, no gear. 30 years old testosterone was 255 ng/dl. By 38 it was 150 ng/dl with some pretty severe side effects. Doctors couldn’t find a reason for it to be that low. I now take .18 ml injection twice a week, and my testosterone level last checked was 480 ng/dl, about normal and no more symptoms of low testosterone.
As someone who used PED on and off for 20 years, it’s critical for all of you to get a calcium heart scan to see if you’ve got yourself on a collision course for the future. I am thankful to say that after many years of juice use, and now 15 years on TRT+, I have a score of ZERO! I get tested every 2 years, it’s a easy test and only costed $60 with no insurance. Call your local hospitals today to see if they can get your test done as well. If you have buildup then they can get you on meds to prevent heart attack.
Methyl 1 Testosterone was LEGALLY sold in GNC when I was in high school. Around 2005 I hopped on my first cycle around the age of 15. Man it was amazing, felt like superman and had amazing gains that I kept my whole life, but I certainly crashed hard coming off and of course I didn't use PCT. Even though I managed to keep most of my gains and continued to train hard...psychologically it took a toll. I was and have always been more aggressive and it ruined relationships and friendships over the course of my life. I am way more chill now in my 30s, and keep myself and emotions under control but the feeling inside still amps up at times like when I was on the stuff back in the day.
One of the best, most thorough, and most responsible videos I’ve ever seen on the topic of steroids. I’ve always been aware of the negatives to using PEDs, which is why I decided a long time ago to never touch the stuff, as I want to live as long and healthy a life as possible…but I can see how people who don’t focus on their longevity or who value the quick short term gains over the many potential health and lifestyle risks can decide to use PEDs. More people need to watch this video, as education is everything on this topic. 💪
I agree. I find it worrying for the target audience of many of these bodybuilding influencers, the young teenagers and early 20 year old guys (and maybe gals?). When you are young you think you are invincible and that you are the exception and the negative effects won't apply to you. And body dysphoria is a really problem in that age group as well. With girls it used to be the thing above everything (anorexia). And now for boys it is the muscles (for girls as well, although I find it actually positive for women to be strong. The beauty standards for women is to be thin and weak. Too long have we heard you get "bulky " if you lift a bit of heavier weights. All not true. I just worry that everything will go into the extremes as well for girls.)
I weigh 130 LBs and never have I remotely considered taking steriods. But I still loved watching the entire 16-minute video. The topic wasn't even too relevant for me and I was engaged throughout. That's how you know this is quality content.
The talk about abscesses caused me to remember a time I was spotting a dude on squats who was open about his past steroid abuse. I admired him for being honest and coming clean and having a positive attitude towards training naturally again. His skin was a mess though and covered in scars from acne. Anyway he got set up under the barbell and as I was spotting him the barbell caused an abscess on his neck to rupture which was pretty horrifying being so close to it as I was spotting it. I swear with any more pressure it might have spurted onto me 🤢
Dialling nutrition up to 11 entirely changed my body more than I expected after 3 years of serious lifting, I went from being at good-nutrition 80% of the time to great-nutrition 90% of the time, hitting macros 28+ days out of 30, eating a fistload of veggies every day, and keeping my calories at about 100-200 above maintenance, takes more effort than working out tbh. Worth it.
My levels were checked at age 25, and were 201, 220 and 248, 3 months apart. The doctor was an older man and didn't bother prescribing TRT. He said more than likely it's stress, lack of sleep. I'm in great shape and exercise 5-6 times a week, it's a shame most doctors would rather let it go untreated because he thought I was seeking it out. Unfortunately it leads people to ordering it themselves online
Bro this is exactly the video I’ve been looking for for the past 2 years. Even after talking to lifters on gear I was still on the fence, because the whole picture wasn’t very clear. But now I know. THANK YOU 💪🏽
I appreciate the good documentation on this topic from multiple people, not just OP. I'm a prior military (was Marine Infantry) guy, used to lift a lot in school, never did gear. In fact, I was stricter in the military days (no creatine or anything else because messing with your chemistry can drop you dead in a hot desert without warning especially under 782 gear). Well, I got injured pretty badly a few years before my contract was up and had to get out when that time came around (I never was a fan of that, since I didn't really get to make a choice). For a long time, I kept doing field exercises and kill drills with gear instead of lifting or gym stuff (you can definitely maintain serious fitness that way, I might add). No matter what I did though, I could never get back to where I wanted to be. I would always hit plateaus after so much rehab work or whatever dealing with prior injuries. I had been thinking about doing a baby dose after making sure I had gotten rid of any fat I could and had a completely clean blood chemistry. Of course, it's hard to be sure with those potential side effects. I hate being stuck being less effective than I used to be though, so it's a tough decision, but maybe that's what I get for having survived dozens and dozens of things that would have killed most people.
Jeff used the Kurzgesagt - In a Nutshell title strategy from the smoking video. Worked like a charm. Bringing honest information to the general public needs catchy title and video framework like that great work my guy!!!
Yeah, it's all factual, like recommending "weight lifting" because it's "so healthy for you". What's that? Someone 30 kg overweight, with lots of fat storage, is the same as someone 30 kg overweight, but this guy has muscles? Noooo... couldn't be, right? Losing your life young, childless and on a constant drug regiment seems SO HEALTHY.
So my total T is at 1400ngdl. Before the weekly supplementation, I was at 350. In my first 30 days I added 7lbs of fat free mass without working out. Since then, the next two weeks I began working out and adding protein and calorie surplus, I gained another 3lbs of fat free mass, totaling 10lbs of fat free mass in just 45 days. My quality of life is also amazingly improved. I would highly recommend testosterone, but not exceeding a total T level of 1300~. When I get past 1400, side effects like roid rage are evident to say the least.
Had stopped checking on your videos for a while just do to lack of interest and time for bodybuilding. Honestly I clicked because of the click bait title... but im glad it worked, this is ridiculously well done, the science and visuals are perfect for explaining this, solid video.
I have been watching you for quite a while. Thanks for all your tips. I also followed RP since the pandemic. I am at 60 year of age, i am all natural, not a body builder. My family has Alzheimer disease. My father died of cancer. I was clinically depressed. Lifting has been my ‘drug’ since I found out earlier in it would curb my depression. I am still gaining muscles at my ripe 60 year of age. I appreciate this non biased Q&A. Your postings definitely help. Keep it up Jeff!
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I’d love to see this style video on peptides.
do not take anything man
The app is great- easy to use and provides great feedback and guidance.
turnin to gregg with these clickbait titles
Jeff, thank you so much for featuring me in this video. It turned out great!
Folks who have commented or reached out about my anxiety disorder, thank you so much for caring. Good news, it's entirely due to steroids, and those I take entirely voluntary with no compulsion or addiction. As soon as I want, I can stop them and within days I don't have severe anxiety disorder anymore and within weeks I barely have anxiety at all. I HATE how they make me feel, but I have a few goals in bodybuilding left to accomplish, so I deal with it. I have a knack for doing very hard things that take a long time, so this is right up my alley. No need to worry about me!
PS: If I die before my due time from the cardiovascular shit... it's been real and this is what I wanted. Do not ever feel the need to be sympathetic of me. - Dr. Mike
that PS hit hard 💀I hope you live a long time dude
❤ Lot's of love Mike a
Not only I respect this reply and point of view, I also salute it! Thank you for everything Dr.Mike
You'll never die in my heart ❤️
Love you Dr. Mike!
As someone who has never touched gear but has been bald since 22 I feel cheated
Exactly where are my muscles…?
You're a natural steroid user.
bro I had the vegeta hairline since I was 14 and have been bald since 17, fml 🥲
I feel you bro! Bald gang represent!
Why are you feeling cheated ? You were always going to be bald. Had you started juicing in your teens, you would have lost your hair even sooner than you did.
It’s like feeling cheated over something you never had in the first place.
Juicing doesn’t turn people that weren’t going to be bald, bald.
If you genetically were going to suffer from male pattern baldness, steroids would have just accelerated that process.
So benefits of steroids:
- get bigger muscles
The downsides:
- acne
- small balls that stop producing your own testosterone
- baldness
- abscess risk
- anxiety, random rage, constant high libido
- man-boobs
- higher risk for heart failure
- lower IQ, older Brain
- when taken at a young age you might stop growing in height and mentally
Is this worth it?
when you put it like that, i feel stupid for even considering steroids lol
@@dungbeater4264 yeah stay natty!
no wonder steroid bodybuilder looks like a freak show.
"anxiety, random rage, constant high libido" Thats a benefit my dude, thats just normal life for me and im a fat fuck
Thank u king 👑
5:45 the Cbum you want
6:49 the Sebum you'll get 😂
When mum says "we have CBum at home".
Missed opportunity to show little cbum particles being secreted
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Best comment 😂😂😂
Instantly had the same thought 😂
My best friend died of heart failure at 43 years old. He openly admitted that he regularly used steroids. He was convinced he was being safe in his steroid use. I told him he needed to stop but he just wouldn't listen.
His kids had to grow up without their father and I've been without a friend that I've loved since childhood.
So sorry bro. I lost my best friend 3 years ago to cancer. It was a few days before his 40th. It never gets easier.
What was his stack?
@@mindmonkey00 Why?
@@mindmonkey00 come on man this isnt funny
@bugattidragon1237 not all steroids do the same amount of harm. Test only cycles are pretty safe if you get your blood work regularly and take a moderate dosage. It's tren and most of the oral steroids that can really mess you up
I feel like these guests are better than that anonymous anabolics expert you had on last time.
Great video!
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Right!! 🔥🔥🎯
More Cake More R**e
Que in that Obama putting medal on Obama meme xD
Nah the anonymous guy seemed intelligent
My boyfriend went into heart failure and died when we were on our way to an oncologist for a consult about a 10cm mass on his kidney. Only after going through his things did I find that he had been using steroids (equipoise and tren) for the entire time that we had been dating. I miss him every day
Sorry for your loss and I hope you can find love again.
Gay people , lol
@@suryakantgiri8889bro not cool
Im sorry for your loss.
@suryakantgiri8889
Dude wtf
For those wondering about the title, the channel "kurzgesagt" recently made a video titled "Smoking is awesome" and it follows the same narrative, down to the "let's smoke a cigarette together" and then go through the physiological effects. Many people commented it was the best anti-smoking video they'd ever seen and I think it's an awesome idea by Jeff to make a "mirror video" about steroids. They will be a huge health burden for many in the near future.
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I also saw that video. Good job by both creators imo.
omg i saw that vid and it was great. i never connected the dots
Totally agree! A great way to tackle a sensitive topic
Took steroids since I was 7.
This is one of the better anti-drug PSAs I've seen. No moralizing, no fear-mongering. Just facts.
Like Kurtzgezakt's video on cigarettes.
Truth is inherently moralizing.
@@hunivan7672 How is that? Explaining the effects of steroids in no way judges them morally. There is no "steroids are good/bad" in "steroids cause hairloss"
Actually this convinced me to start. It doesn't seem so bad if you stay moderate and consult professionals.
@@ConsensusX provided you can have access to affordable, clean roids, good insurance, someone willing to work with you and not just reddit, discipline, the ability to moderate, relatively good mental health, no underlying health issues, a willingness to alienate those around you, yeah, you're set
Appreciate you including me on this Jeff!!
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Only here for my dawg chase
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Brother died, he was supervised by doctors. His gains were incredible but his heart got too big till it stopped. He used roids for 8 years. Died at age 29. No condolences!
I hope he enjoyed his time... I always consider taking roids but than read stuff like this and go, nah NO WAY! Thank you for sharing.
Well how much was he taking????
Brother, don't be like that. We are all but silly mortals. Share condolences please brother
Many condolences for your brother.
No condolences for your actual brother?
Dr. Mike not sounding so great in this one. As someone with severe anxiety but without steroids, my heart goes out to him because I can hear the pain behind his voice from it.
Thought the same thing. This is me in my work meetings after consuming 600mg caffeine.
Same. Actually lifting was part of getting me out of anxiety disorder. It's long behind me at this point and I can't imagine choosing it willingly as a trade off.
I guess talking about it triggered him
Your heart shouldn't go out to him, he is choosing to give himself anxiety.
Something I'm guessing you would never do....
Womp womp ohhh noo I’m nervous boohoo
Steroids are absolutely nuts! (I lost my nuts)
Aerodynamics
Can confirm, I stole bros nuts
On a serious note, they do make your nuts smaller. The longer you use it
@@kaze.14and make them stop working and destroy your ability to have kids. Fun!
ahahahaa, really? =))
Working on infarctus emergencies here :
We get A LOT of fitness coaches & influencers & bodybuilder in their 40's getting infarctuses, getting extremely severe cardiac failures (Left ventricle with ejection fraction as low as a 80 years old grandma).
They are big, they have abs, they are often extremely well groomed, tanned but their heart is collasping before our eyes and we can only save them a few months / years and they are only 35/40.
Take care young guys
WTF…what city do you work in because if it’s frequent that’s concerning 😮
Steroids are medicine. There are countless more that are perfectly fine and never need to go to the hospital. Steroids have been proven to be healthy and helpful when used correctly, they are medicine.
@@juandoe7802probably LA
@@juandoe7802Most likely big cities with a high amount of influencers and a strong gym culture, like Huston, NYC, and LA. Volunteered as an EMT, there were a lot of calls to gyms for a heart attack/failure due to some form of steroid use. If I had anything to say to kids and young adults that are thinking of or are already doing steroids, just stop, y’all aren’t built different, there are long term health effects that far outweighs putting on an extra 10-20lbs of muscle.
@@juandoe7802prolly L.A 😅
This is an amazing video. I am 20 in September; have been lifting for a few years. Recently started increasing the intensity of my gym sessions and focusing on a proper diet. I have already started noticing faster gains. I often get compliments of my friends who do not lift that I am ‘wham’, needless to say when I’m in the gym I feel small. So many people do steroids now it takes away from the people who put in even more effort naturally… I am always debating if I should start a cycle. You have made me realise I am on the right path. The journey might be harder, slower and more painful but in the end it will be worth it.
The gym is about getting healthy, not becoming unhealthy to have big guns. Don’t take steroids people!
It is your choice. For instance I started at age 37 after years of research to see the true risks... But yes, you can choose to "have big guns" lol. But I found at my age, muscle wasn't the most extreme benefit, decreased depression and enhanced mood, increased energy and less need for sleep, libido of a teenager, extreme confidence, those were much more noticeable than some popping veins or big guns... Of course the physique change got me alot of attention and compliments and turns heads.
Start the cycle if you want to look like an absolute fkn freak show, with a physique that makes you look like tumours are popping out your body, and that the vast majority of women are repulsed by.
@@capoman1and risk of heart failure as well. Don't forget that.
Good job! Continue to do the right thing and stay safe.
I think the worst part about this is that healthy young people by and large *cannot* understand how life-ruining it is to have significant heart issues, for example. It's one thing to read or even hear testimonials about it, but at the end of the day everybody thinks they're special until they need to be careful climbing stairs.
Even though its good more fitness influencers are being honest about the gear, the problem is they never talk about the negative long term effects. I remember when Larry Wheels made his video talking about stopping his gear people just glossed over the small part where he mentioned he still was taking TRT (AKA...steroids...) because his body literally would no longer make testosterone. They just spent the whole time gushing over the fact that he was actually talking about his gear use. Its almost as though it has become normalized, which is what makes it so dangerous to younger people. They will always be less likely to worry about future consequences in favor of immediate benefits, especially in todays world where instant gratification has become the norm.
They’ll know a few years after getting the safe & effective.
Yep. Former roid user. Quit when I had a BP 191/104. Think it wouldn't happen to me but the vanity wasn't worth it.
@@coreyworthingtonii9230 hopefully not
I would add that it really seems to be even more terrifying in the US than in Europe. Because here, it's already much harder to get. And above all, there are hundreds and hundreds of studies on the ( negative ) effects of steroids, and they're regularly broadcast on the news, radio, internet etc. I really get the feeling that Americans aren't interested in scientific studies and rely on "bro science".
As a woman, this is very similar to plastic surgery in the beauty world. A lot of women get praised for being 'transparent' about plastic surgery, which I get, but then that's also lead to a huge influx of plastic surgery operations. The side effects are much more rarely discussed, but the popularity increases on a daily basis, which then leads to increased feelings of dissatisfaction/body dysmorphia --> more surgery.
But cyber enhancements are right around the corner, so isn't it better we start talking about BOTH the good and bad sides? In this echo age, we're aren't even able to get challenged in our own believes, the algorithms are making sure of it. So if you choose to only inform about one side of whatever, the audience will by default be someone that agrees with you. Take Jeff here, his bias is certainly controlling this video, so it'll mostly be shown for like-minded. In terms of legit criticisms and actually starting a proper discussion, this video isn't delivering.
I mean at least they dont fuck with hormones like gear does
@@algirdasltu1389 Erhm... You should really do some research into the chemicals in our food. There's (among many) estrogen derivatives used as preservatives. Check out the chemicals in your bathroom products, like shower gel and deodorant/parfume. Based on your comment, you're in for quite a shock
@@algirdasltu1389 When was the last time you researched what's in your shower gel or deodorant? How about the estrogen derivatives used as preservatives in our food? How about what drinking milk does to adult males?
But surgeries are permanent aren't they ? In steroids , you'll lose all muscles because the testes are half the size so no testosterone hence no muscle growth like before
Huge respect for Dr Mike and opening up about his anxiety.
He was on a podcast which was called something like "trensparent" and I watched maybe 30 mins of it. Damn that shit went wayyy too deep lol. He was talking about 10000 other compounds you have to take to stay moderately healthy and how on cycle he isn't able to feel happiness like he is off cycle
Respect for what? All I see is a drug addict who gave himself severe anxiety but refuses to stop using gear
Yo I’ve never heard him like that he’s hurting!
True!
He's such an an-hero.
It hurts my soul to hear Dr Mike talk like this: very "out-of-breath"-like, small bursts of talking, short breaks, that tremor...
I think in this particular video you can nearly feel the anxiety. How much worse it must feel for him, i can't comprehend...
a very noticable difference to the usual
Yeah I hope he stops soon and is able to recover
@@monnfinst there's a difference between blasting gear for 10 years and doing 1 test cycle. It's not even comparable
I can hear some sort of AI noise cancellation over the audio of him speaking, that could make him sound a bit out of breath
And that is WITH a ton of jump cuts...
He’s prepping for a bodybuilding show
Psychedelics are just an amazing discovery. It's quite fascinating how effective they are for depression and stress..saved my life.
Psychedelics definitely have potential to deal with health issues like anxiety and depression, I would like to try them but it's just hard to source out here.
I'm feeling the same way too. I put so much on my plate and it definitelv affects mv stress and anxietv levels
I was having this constant and unbearable anxiety because of university stress. Not until I came across Ted Winston, a very intelligent mycologist, He saved my life honestly.
Is he on telegram?
HE’S MOSTLY ON TELEGRAMS, USING THE USERNAME
Old title: Steroids Are Awesome
Thinking the same lol
39 minutes in and it hasn't changed yet. Let's track this! 😅
A/B testing? Mine is still the same
Why would he change it though? It grabbed my attention, even though I knew it was clickbait-y - I'm sure I'm not alone
The most sad part about it is that he put so much time and effort into making this video and it will be 100% de-monetized due to the word "steroids" and the thumbnail, while still providing super valuable insights and really trying to make people understand why it is so important to not do something dangerous that we don't even fully understand yet but already has so many proven side effects. I'm looking forward to seeing Jeff's study about maximizing natural potential after lifting regularly for already so many years. Unfortunately the spotlight is moving towards enhanced people, I'm sure nevertheless that people like him will always have a following due to the high transparency and quality content that he keeps providing
There is absolutely no way I would ever do steroids after watching this video. Thanks Jeff, this is true honesty and education.
So... Are you gonna go watch the movies about how cardio can destroy your knees early, how streaming eats away at your brain, that includes UA-cam (the 20 year IQ drop is about 3 times as high as before streaming, in other words significantly worse than the effects of SOME steroids), how much poisonous gas and particles we inhale everyday, how much sugar destroys our body and how much worse "light" products really are. Then add in something about the suns fantastic ability to give skin cancer. There, now you're scared of everything and will never do anything in your life again... Brillant comment...
Lol 😂 Using UA-cam as you life coach, is a great idea, except that was exactly what Jeff warned about in the start of this video...
There is absolutely no way I would ever do anything UA-camrs warn about, which means I'll never go outside again or do anything ever! Man I love UA-cam, bro science is da bomb
@@VikingRul3sWhy is Bro mad? Average Gear User
JFC... Oxygen is bad for you, so is water, so is literally everything in the world. Steroids are of course bad for you too, but just iwth literally everything else - its about moderation and management, and your attitude towards risk. This UA-camr is a 'Natty' so his bias is of course shining through, even though he is 'talking about the GOOD as well as the bad'... except, he is really leaning into the bad and not the likelyhood of bad etc. Its a very "Steroids good, but also BAAD m'kay!"
Fair play to Dr Mike for being so upfront
Dr. Mike gave useless info without specifying dose or duration.
@@John-mk3oe It would be wildly irresponsible to the point of idiotic to recommend any specific details of steroid use to the general youtube public. Dr. Mike isn't an idiot.
He looked extremely scared/nervous
@@Kevin-ok8dj He did say he was dealing with clinical anxiety, but you also couple that with being so open about something that ha such stigma, its completely understandable
@@patrickselwood All the studies show that adverse effects are dose and duration dependent. Without giving the dose/duration, any adverse effects are meaningless.
33 year old natural lifter here. I've been lifting ever since I was 11 years old. Competed in some natural bodybuilding competitions in my 20s. Solid overall physique. Thinking about going on TRT in the future when I turn 45 years old or so, when the natural testosterone is on a decrease. I would love to see a video specifically on starting steroids in your mid 40s or early 50s, under the guidance of a doctor or nurse (looking specifically at healthy individuals who have never touched steroids prior to this, who have been training for 10+ years, and have built a solid foundation + stick to other overall good health options). I would love to see a video detailing the results of these findings, and the benefits vs. drawbacks.
Great video. Thanks Jeff.
I've got a great channel recommendation then. Search "Ask the Doc" and the channel is MuscleInsider... He runs a trt clinic in Cali I believe and is an ex BB and deals with clients that take everything but especially basic trt or moderate testosterone.
I've been using testosterone full time for 8 years since I was 37. My anecdotal experience is that testosterone is extremely mild. There are all these scare stories about dead BBs and "steroids are so dangerous and full of sides..." But rarely do articles distinguish JUST TEST use vs ALL the steroids that exist, and BBs take insulin typically and don't just do test.
I've found it will give you a great boost and make cutting way easier due to muscle sparing. It increases libido and mood and you require less sleep you'll notice. You'll get great gains on anything from 300mg to 600mg and those are moderate and safe dosages and myself and other forum users found is mild enough you don't even need an ai to prevent gyno. But 120mg up to 200mg is considered trt or mini cycle territory. But research I've seen shows no health drawbacks using 600mg indefinitely, so I'm not afraid to take this dosage and get the added benefits. I've never gone over this dosage and don't want to.
As for health, I really can't say much and it's anecdotal anyways. I'm not balding genetically and it hasn't affected my hair. All my blood work has been normal... My biggest fear is cardiovascular as I have no idea how to gauge or monitor the heart, I fear that hardening or enlargement of the heart could occur which would shorten lifespan.
Hope that helps but check out that channel. Tons of great info and questions answered from a source way more authoritative than myself.
You gotta give props to Jeff because even though he’s been struggling with feeling like he’s at his natural limit and smaller than other fitness influencers, he’s doubling down and working his ass off to really push his body to its limit. Inspirational stuff man
Hold on, are you actually implying he's natural? 😂
Dude, come one, get a grip.
@@lecobra418 why not, he looks natural to me
@@lecobra418 bro hes like 5'4 if you see him compared to alot of these others juiced lifters youll see how easy it is to tell hes natural
@@lecobra418 if he wasn't so short i would think yeah no way he is natural but its marginally easier for a shorter guy to have a proportionately wide frame and big muscles if he were 6'5 he would probably look fairly muscular and a bit lean, but just look skinny with clothes on
Bro are you sure he is really big
I can tell dr mike was literally dealing with anxiety as he was talking, the crack in his voice as if he’s in fear, he lightens up as the interview goes on but in the beginning you can tell. I hope after his competition he lays off the gear and gets back to being healthy
Sounded like he was on t3 and Clen. More so clen. Pretty sure it was during his last prep.
@@JohnLeibfried it was for a show, he goes into detail on it in a video talking about changing things
@@bearpowder8807prep means preparation for a show so pretty sure we are saying the same thing.
Aaaaand I'm back to "Fuck that, I will never take that shit", thanks Jeff!
I sometimes need a bit of a reminder too.
you could hop on androgel... its just a testosterone cream absorbed by the skin...
IQ thingy is likely not permanent though
Key word, likely @@flor.7797
@@flor.7797 is that a risk you're willing to take? lol
What’s crazy is that people are catching on to what non natty builds look like and they get less respect. So they wanted to do something harmful to look cool, and end up looking extremely lame anyway.
guys crack is so great, i can mumble at maximum speed underneath a bridge.
😂😂😂
If you're going to take an upper, I beg all of you to take just regular pharmaceutical dexamphetamine (Amphetamine, speed). Not methamphetamine. Just amphetamine. It's not neurotoxic unless of course you overdose or take it chronically in highly sustained and highly repeated non therapeutic doses (all things are neurotoxic at some point, of course the ceiling is lower with neurologically active substances). However there IS A REASON that fighter pilots take this shit, there's a reason it's given to people with severe ADHD like myself, there's a reason test pilots, navy seals, the lunar landings
@@ShortKingofKingsFuck recreational cannabis legalize recreational speed 👌
@@ShortKingofKingsI bet they've done also a ton of coke whilst they filmed the lunar landings in area 54 and Hollywood 😂😂😂
@@ShortKingofKings Or maybe the reason why we take amphetamines is to meet the unrealistic expectations and demands of modern work society that is unsustainable for humans and that is why we are developing mental health disorders such as ADHD at an exponential rate
A friend from school 'got on the gear' when he was 19/20.... got properly massive, but he also got fat with it. He trimmed down in his early 30's but the damage was already done and his heart gave out at age 38. RIP Tim McCoy.
My buddy didn’t do steroids I did. Been doing TRT for 23 years. He died of a heart attack. I am still alive.
@@steveleamont Trt are sustainable, for some people even healthier than naty. How much you take for how long and what kind of condition you got and dna plays a big role
@@steveleamont Congrats, maybe the whole population should take TRT then how about that? Are you dumb?
He didn't get fat from steroids he got fat from cheeseburgers, lol.
@@steveleamont steroid users generally die earlier then non users this is a fact, just cause your friend isn't using them and got a heart attack, doesn't mean that using them is safe, this is the bias alot of users have and good talk that they use
Prize: Big muscles
Cost: Greater risk of heart failure; Heart problems; High levels of anxiety; Degradation of intelligence; Accelerated brain aging; Hair loss / baldness; Breast formation; Testicular shrinkage; Dependence on testosterone injections; Oily skin; Acne; Psychological problems; Excessive libido; Greater risk of injuries; Shorter life expectancy; Stunted growth (height); Impedes brain development; Dependency
It doesn't even make sense for anyone in their right mind to consider using steroids 💀
You get a higher sex drive but another potential side effect is getti g erectile dysfunction, so can’t even capitalise 💀
Personally I agree with you, but unfortunately a lot people are okay with the trade off (in the moment usually) and don't typically regret it until it's too late...
Been on for 6 years and have only had elevated sex drive, strength and size gains. None of the negatives either physical or psychological. 34 and still have a full head of hair lol
Another thing that they didn't go into is if you use steroids and also use other substances it can be extremely dangerous. Mixing some drugs with steroids will straight up kill you.
@@goazer2 totally false. Give an example
Due to major kidney failure & years of antibiotics & pain meds & not able to work out, my Test level was around 200! Crazy low. Thank God he healed me from needing dialysis, I was on it for over a year, I've been off close to 3 years now! So over the last year I've been feeling much better, so much better I began doing very light workouts, I began testosterone 9 weeks ago & I can actually sleep now & I have so much more energy. I actually did 10 pushups last night! lol sounds silly, but when I 1st started I could only do 2!
On the dialysis, when I had to start it , my kidney function was under 3%, when the Docs decided to take me off dialysis, my kidney function had jumped to over 18%. This just does not ever happen! Once kidney tissue is dead, it ain't coming back! Its a true medical miracle that my docs cannot explain! Amen!
My buddy passed away from a heart attack at 27. He had a existing heart condition he didn’t know about. He was a bodybuilder and had aspirations to compete. I still can’t believe how he passed away especially how I was thinking myself of getting on.
You have a great pic, sorry for your loss.
So your friend didn’t take the proper precautions to ensure he could use steroids safely. Got it 👍🏽
@@CrimpKeeper Hold on, are you serious? There is no safe way to use steroids. Even if there were, it would involve significant risks. Would you really consider that, knowing all the potential side effects? I honestly believe that people who feel they need steroids just to appear bigger should consider psychological support instead of wasting their money. With all due respect to those who have lost their lives, it is our duty to spread awareness about the consequences of using these drugs. Your comment potentially encourages others to research how to use steroids "safely," which is not okay. We need to be more responsible with our words.
@@gerardporta177 how much research have you done on steroids?
@@gerardporta177The guy is either a troll, or brain dead from his own steroid use.
I completely agree regarding those feeling they want or need steroids seeking psychological help. There's clearly some form of body dysmorphia that needs addressing.
Man, Dr Mike even sounds on edge in this one
yeah, noticed that too. very jittery, no?
i agree, he did say he was very anxious and being in therapy right now no?
@@F_E_U yh I know, I'm just saying it's apparent externally so you know it's bad
They are using ai to enhance the audio quality, which is causing it to sound weird. nothing to do with his actual voice
@@quinten2083 Most likely. But visually, he does look like he's somewhat anxious.
You can hear the anxiety in Dr Mikes voice, so proud of him for speaking about his anxiety and making this video through his feelings.
Dr mike is a joke😂😂without the roids he would not even go too the gym yet he has the worst form
@@BoschBoschBabElHoshThe worst form? The guy has a doctorate in Sport Physiology which he received from East Tennessee State University. He's way more qualified than you'll ever be 😂😂😂
On another podcast or video, maybe from a couple years ago, he said that he's had panic attacks in the shower from taking steroids. It's crazy, and it sounds like it might be getting worse for him.
Sad to see all the doctor Mike controversy too. I was a huge fan of him before but I won’t get into too much details al
@@philippelevesque5223 with all that paper he cant last a day without roids and still looks very bad. Biggest joke in the industri Mike... sorry Dr mike hahah
I am a 67 years old amateur power lifter and fitness trainer and I have been exercising for over 50 years. I weigh 80 kilos and I still have a nice muscular figure I'm not big as a bodybuilder. I still exercise four times a week for two hours a day I never use steroids am still strong and I am healthy.
Trade off:
- Bigger muscles
For:
- Inflated heart
- Shrunken balls
- Shorter height (if you start early)
- Breast tissue (???)
- Anxiety and panic disorder
- Injury Risk
- Baldness
- Lower IQ and an aged brain (dementia risk)
- Acne
Yeah bro. Hard decision
eh worth it
Idk bro that’s a lot of positives
Does the lower IQ come before steroids or after? Its hard to tell with the gear heads I've known.
Trade off:
- Nothing
For:
- Big ugly muscles
- Inflated heart
- Shrunken balls
- Shorter height (if you start early)
- Breast tissue (???)
- Anxiety and panic disorder
- Injury Risk
- Baldness
- Lower IQ
- Acne
Liver goes to shit, also a cool feature.
people on steriods grinding for their testosterone lvls as if they were milestones is crazy
Truly f'd up
Death speedrun
20,000 is crazy.
Like power levels in dbz lol
Life is an RPG and you gota grind those stat gains!
you can tell so much effort went into the video. the edit, background sound and overall quality are top notch
Yup! Great Advetisement for his services. $$$$$
Jeff, I've appreciated your work for some time, but I think this is the best video you have ever put out. I'm grateful for your guest experts and their honesty as well. Good stuff. Keep it up!
I agree
Took a few years on the entire internet for someone to finally make a proper video on steroids and what happens (visual and acoustic presentation). And this is why you have 4m+ subs. Thank you.
There are tons of videos about roids...
Took a few years? You suck at researching 😂
@@ConnoisseurOfExistence probably his first day on the Internet lol
he takes them himself so he would know
@@RaPiiDzzzzdont be a dck
Thank you for letting me do the music editing on this video, Jeff! Working with the team was a lot of fun 🤝
The algorithm seemed to love it, with how it matched the last 2 vids within 1 day. pretty shocking
Stop lying 😂
Thats such cheap and lame self advertisement
@@Chef8898 Literally in the description my guy
@@Hoggins Doesnt make it less lame
I'm not a body builder. I am a 100% permanent and total disabled combat veteran. I've had two heart surgeries, a traumatic brain injury, and multiple knee surgeries. My test is just checked at 190. I'm 45 and a man. The Veterans Hospital will be putting me on TRT therapy. The last time they had me on it, I lost my fking hair. I want my levels to normal, but I don't want the side effects. Not sure what to do.
@JeffNippard physician here chiming in. I work in a specialty that I come across many patients young and old that have used or are now using anabolic steroids. I really appreciate that you bring to light some of these real concerns. I have spoken with colleagues about this paradoxical effect that increased honesty amongst influencers has had on steroid usage, and that complete honesty is still not achieved by just stating that they are taking steroids and sometimes specifics about cycles. Again, very much appreciated and keep up the good work!
Can you write me a trt script Doc?
There is no scientific evidence of any what he said in the video except that it makes your muscle grow (when you train) and that it has some affect to your hormones.
It seems like a paradox, but its how shaming and taboos work.
The more you speak of something, doesnt matter if in a good or bad light, it will make it less scary thus more popular.
It hurts to say but this video will get more people into steroids because most kids, not only cannot sit down and pay attention for 15 mins, they wont have the "fear" that previous generations had, because everyone talks about it.
Its the taboo that kept most people off of steroids, not information factually showing why its bad.
So now, at this point, you have to go full on "why steroids are bad" and make every parent teach to their kids, if you want a positive influence. Anything shorter than that, will end more kids
@@newme1589 The increased problem with steroids and some of the ratchet behavior with men and women is because of the many morons that give attention to "fitness influencers" that is leading to more problems. You have complete strangers that go onto social media for attention, and narcissism and cash that will say and do anything to create engagement and bring them money. The problem is that these "influencers" exist. People need to stop giving these "influencer" clowns attention.
I just wanna say, I really appreciated not only the information but also the honesty from Mike in the interview segment. I've had anxiety disorder, all the way up to panic disorder, and the willpower he is showing just to sit through that experience when his anxiety is probably telling him to run is impressive and inspiring. Props to him and to you for your always fire content.
You can feel the anxiety in his voice in the second part (7:18).
He looked so calm while having a panic attack. I litterally freak out when i have a panic attack😅
Hi Jeff!
I just wanted to remind you, when you are thinking about taking steroids that you are also an influencer for many people that want to build natural bodies and for some, maybe an idol. Like the bodybuilders that influence people by saying they take steroids, you also have influence by doing the opposite. You show people that you can have actual progress without taking steroids and also have a healthy life in general.
I really appreciate your mindset of "maybe I am at my max, and that is okay". More people should think like you.
If we always long for the next step or gain, we never appreciate how far we've come.
Seeing Dr Mike so vulnerable was genuinely upsetting, but big up the honesty 👏
There is a video on his channel dedicated to the side effects of PEDs, well worth a watch!
The way this was cut, colour graded and underlaid with sad music made it seem a little more weepy than Mike intended, see his own comment above. But anyways, I agree that him being to the point and honest about the side effects is very valuable.
Is this title inspired by Kurzgesagt? lol
lol
Smoking is awesome.
Can you elaborate?
@@WolfNRaven There's a recent Kurzgesagt video about the side effects of smoking cigarettes that is titled "Smoking is Awesome," and the video clearly explains the benefits and downsides of smoking. It's a very objective video and makes it clear that there are benefits to smoking, but also make it very clear just how not worth it the benefits are given how bad the downsides are. Seems similar to this video from Jeff (so far, I'm only a few minutes in)
@@xJustForKiicks oh ok. Lol
That's it, I'm starting tren
Real
You are already on tren.
Not doing using tren keeping your back small as fùch
Might help you to finally get a big back.🤭
Sorry but not even tren can get rid of your smol back 😢
ZERO STEROIDS for me!! One study talked about the deaths, one needs to be done on the quality of life. Flex, Colman, etc. are so messed up! I almost did it, I came along with Flex and I used to workout with one of Lee Haney’s guys, but now I am soooo glad that I did not shoot up!!🙏🏾
plus the huge issue of your self esteem when you come off steroids, which you will eventually....
Amen brother
Homos
tongkat ali
I like peppermint candy canes. Thats doesn’t make me Santa Claus.
I’m biased, but easily one of your best videos 🙌🏼 I hope everyone actually watches it through 🙏🏼
Based
Y biased?🤔
I don't feel it was biased at all? This video clearly show both the pros and the cons of roids instead of just one or the other
Yeah more like based
@@frederikbosman3278 She's saying she's biased, not the video
Stay natty, Jeff! You’re already jacked and we need heroes who maintain their sanity. You look great man, don’t get greedy and sell yourself out. You don’t have to be a crusader, but there are reasons you haven’t injected yet. And if you’re worried about not keeping up with the other influencers, just remember that there’s already 1000 jacked steroid users fighting for those clicks. How many natty’s are on your level? Very few. It’s important work you’re doing, imo.
I've been dealing with anxiety for a few years, although not because of steroids. I would like to ask the comment section to have more empathy for Dr. Mike. Calling him a drug addict and saying this is his own fault isn't necessary. Most people probably can't relate but anxiety can really be the worst thing in the world. Just the fucking worst. I salute him from being open about it and wish him the best.
I have a very bad anxiety disorder left from drug use (not steroids). I used to take benzos for 10 years, but I stopped because I don't want to use anything anymore. I have an understanding for everyone who suffers from this and I don't judge anyone
Anxiety is horrific but he’s choosing it, it makes no damn sense to me that you could ever want to do that to yourself but that goes back to this is clearly an addiction for him and I hope he gets a handle on it soon.
He's choosing to be anxious. He's choosing to take drugs that cause his anxiety.
He's absolutely a drug addict
Hearts only find peace with the remembrance of God
Sooo many people I know claim they have anxiety issues and have a huge Starbucks coffee in the morning@@lovablesnowman
I LOVE seeing you and Dr. Mike working together. As good as it gets
Where can you even get them from?
Depends on where you live. If you're from US then usanabolic
@@MaxShredded this is where I got my tren ahahaha that shit was crazy
@@MaxShredded Oos, I will give this a shot tonight, looks promising.
@@nickrolando87 I'm telling ya bro. Shit goes hard.
@@PeterPikerPepper isn't it.
2:55 this is a brilliant point to raise. I have heart problems already, I know people that have had holes in their heart and I can't imagine putting my pumper through any more.
Dr. Mike gives good advice, I could hear the anxiousness in his voice, its concerning I watch his channel too, hope he keeps it together, mad respect for his honesty
Yeah sounded like when you're really nervous giving a presentation.
i felt that acted out
it sounds more like a microphone issue
@@meatsauce12mic can cause a bit of stutter and jittery speech?
@@Disquiet925 yes mike doesn't usually sound like that
I abused steroids in my 20s for about 3 years straight, blast and cruise, never cycled off. When I finally decided it wasn’t worth it, there had already been some permanent damage. Within months I experienced severe mental health problems. I couldn’t focus on anything, was overwhelmed by anxiety most of the time, and lost any ambition to accomplish anything. Eventually I sought help, and tried anti depressants, anti anxiety meds, and even ADHD medication. While these drugs certainly did something, they didn’t treat the underlying issue, and their effects lost potency over time. Eventually, I was encouraged by a friend to check my test levels. I was 33 at the time, and my test was 302 ng. While this is technically within normal range (barely) I was still encouraged by my dr to try TRT and see how I respond. I feel normal now. Very grateful for TRT.
Did u PCT
Happy you’re good. Do you still gym? Or exercise?
@@nickps2251 Yep. But it was all underground stuff
@@nickps2251he did not but even if u do, steroids cause permanent damage to your organs and have side effects u can see as well like female breast tissue
@@JerrenBrewster yes. I never really stopped the gym other than during lockdown.
I just wanted to let you know how helpful and useful this video was for me. As a 14 year old teen that has been lifting for around a year and a half now steroids have been a very confusing topic for me because of how many influencers use steroids now and aren’t honest about it. it’s hard to set realistic standards nowadays because of this issue and I’ve struggled to set realistic goals on my weightlifting journey because of this. This video also helped me understand what steroids do and the pros and cons of them. I have now realized I will never do steroids ever and I would love to see how far I am able to get naturally just like you. Thank you for everything you have done for the fitness community and please keep keeping on because with all these amazing videos I think you have become one of my favorite people to watch. Thanks
Bro, you’re 14.
You shouldn’t have even been thinking about doing gear in the first place, because you don’t need it at your age.
Maybe when you’re in your 40s you’ll benefit from it, but until you hit that age, your test levels will be naturally high, so you will make gains, especially in your late teens to mid 20s.
Gear also makes you infertile while you’re on it, so if you want to have a family somewhere down the line, it’s best not to do gear.
You’re 14 dude. Just stay off social media and you’ll win
You're 14 ffs. Don't go near any gear. Not only will it have debilitating health effects it won't actually make much difference to you. Because you're 14...
Your comment shows a level headed young man, whoever helped you get to where you are should be proud. I can't imagine how hard it would be growing up in the modern age with so much conflicting information at your disposal. But judging by your comment, I think you'll make good choices in your life, as the key is to fully evaluate your significant life choices. As someone who has made all manner of good and bad decisions throughout my life, I can say that what is ultimately important is longevity. Focus your goals on being able to be as mobile as possible so that you can enjoy life for as long as possible and get the most out of it. Being huge isn't necessarily best for your health in the long run, I think calisthenics is really the best way to go. But whatever you do and however you train, best of luck for the future.
I wanna say I really appreciate how articulate and mature you are for only being 14. Definitely ahead of where I was. Keep on the path you’re on and you’ll be solid. Good shit kid
If you use steroids, you have got to question your own self image and ask if you have a psychological disorder. You will achieve greater happiness being happy with yourself than chasing what you're naturally not. Let face it, results of gear are only temporary, inner peace is forever.
You are explaining complicated things simple way and editing videos is out of this world. 10/10 Content Creator.
I thought you said his explaining complicated things for you.
to me, a lifter of 15 years, the point of lifting is to stay younger for longer; I've never used gear, but have experimented with "testosterone boosters" like DAA (still currently take it). In my early 20's, it was to become the biggest, baddest, strongest dude that everyone respects, but as I matured I realize that was just me compensating for my inferiority complex I had. Now it's all about health, both physical and mental.
I used a "TRT" mini cycle a few years ago and something that wasn't mentioned but worth noting in my case is that if you suffer from depression it probably isn't smart to do this. Steroids may cause anxiety dose dependently but they also make you feel more confident, they make you feel powerful and like you're in control. It 100% cured my depression while I used them, that said nothing since then has ever made me feel that way again. I long for that feeling more than I do to get bigger, unless you're willing to commit for life just don't do it yet. Committing for life also means accepting you probably won't have kids since you'll always be cruising it, so either be okay with that or prepare at a "milk" bank so you still can. Personally I plan to wait until I've had a family and don't want more kids before getting back on permanently.
you can make babys on steroids just fine bro just take hcg with it your balls will stay ther normal size
There's TGT (Total Hormone Therapy) which adds an every other day pill which keeps your balls turned on. Doing a TRT/TGT under doctor supervison with a prescription... Test, estrogen blocker, & one to keep your balls active from a prescription under doctors supervison with blood work every 3 months. In a year on it the doctor has had to reduce my dosage twice as i went well above the 1000 mark
I agree about children part. I’ve been on test for 20 years and I’m def shooting blanks this whole time.
@@badass1g there's a pill that you take every other day which solves that issue... that's only a problem if you make it a problem
@@badass1g from what I understand in most cases pct can generally help with fertility before the age of 40. Have you ever tried that or have you just stayed on? I’m not sure if the longer you cycle if it can make the whole process of regaining fertility harder or not
One point to consider that adds complexity to the question of steroids is the psychological makeup of those who take it and how much these tend to become bullies as their bodies grow. The relationship between severe narcissism, aggressive behavior and steroid intake deserves a careful study.
Jeff, this video is an absolute game-changer! As someone who's been lifting for over 10 years, the constant pressure to hop on gear has always been there. Seeing someone with your influence take such a balanced and informative approach to this topic is incredibly refreshing. It really emphasizes the importance of staying natural and focusing on long-term health. Your dedication and transparency are truly inspiring. Keep up the fantastic work! 💪
constant pressure to get on gear? who do YOU hang out with? steroids would have to be the biggest secret people keep but people are pressuring you to take them?
what BS., you're talking about giving in to your ego and probably want that pat on the back nobody has given you for being " so strong "
@@JBSbass roidrage on display 😂
I"m 64 and just started Anavar, Test E...I saw the same biased BS in this video as all the rest.
@@John-mk3oeWhat in this video, may I ask, was "biased BS"?
@@zake64 Zionism, climate change and steroids are topics filled with agenda/bias. The masses don't think critically and are influenced by all this manipulative propaganda. They can't separate the important facts from the unimportant ones. Four cosmetic side effects of Testosterone should NOT be listed next to life threatening possible side effects. That's mind manipulation created to motivate young cosmetic obsessed people from even considering steroids. The "authorities" all do it. I see straight through it now because I studied it.
This is probably one of the best and most well structured videos I’ve ever seen! Really good job
Probably because the writing had a heavy helping of Kurzgesagt
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My main thing with steroids is that people forget the actual potential of the human body as well as what the true meaning of bodybuilding is. Currently(on social media) bodybuilding is equated with how freaky you can look, how dickskin lean you can be, and how much weight you can throw up and use all those things to either sell programs or get clients. But true bodybuilding used to be about building a aesthetic, beautifully powerful, muscle bound body- Building. A body. Training it and progressing in movements, enjoying the joy of pushing yourself and then reaping the fruits of your labor by achieving large muscles. Large muscles which symbolically and literally represent self improvement, progress, vitality, strength, and good health. Bodybuilding is about building a body in which you exist in forever, into a statuesque entity. Bodybuilding is respecting your ability as a human to develop and push yourself out of mediocrity and have great physical capabilities. Bodybuilding is and should be a medium through which you become the best version of you, for yourself, for your family and your loved ones to be strong and healthy to play and live a long happy life.
But currently because of social media it all belongs to how many clicks you can get, what drama you can stur up, controversial opinions, and the abuse of steriods in order to fit into a crowd and make money in the industry. Its become a business instead of a physical practice. Steroid use and abuse is so abundant because there is barely anyone normal anymore, every week you see a freak on instagram you see a more heavier, bigger, stronger person on youtube everyday. And because of that gap between the pre existing abusers and the naturals who get anxiety and form a lack of patience- results in another victim who falls under the guise of steroids.
The average man can achieve every single they want in bodybuilding as long as they learn how to program, train hard, eat well, and sleep. As well as achieve their physique/strength while also living ling enough to see their grandchildren get married.
Steroids only form an external factor for you to latch onto in order to get quick results and immediate gratification. But there is no sense of fulfillment. Its never just one cycle. You take one cycle, get resulsts then come off of it- the results you got wash away. There is no permanance to your results. Because you didnt build that muscle, the steroids did. So one cycle turns into 3 and 3 cycles turns into a laundry list of substances that you have to track and monitor in order to maintain your externally achieved physique. Not to mention the crippling body dysmorphia, aggressively low self esteem (despite the large physique),eating disorders, heart problems, and injuries. So now you have to spend a shit ton of money, to buy all your gear, you're not even a little happy with how you look, you got crippling depression, you barely enjoy your training, and your hearts probably gonna fail by 50.
Steroids arent worth it man. Train hard, keep realistic goals but know theres a LOT. That is possible, sleep well, and eat whole foods and some cookies too. Have some fucking fun training and enjoy laughing with your grandkids at 80 years old with a healthy pair of lungs, strong bones, and a joyous heart.
Professional yapper over here, Jesus Christ. You're describing what you think bodybuilding should be, not what it ever was. Bodybuilding hasn't been healthy for at least 5 decades now.
Very well written and thought out comment, I appreciated reading it and thought I should leave a comment to counter the douchedick who left the other one. Cheers
Yeah since roidds exist. Thats exactly his point@dooby1445
My main thing is, that bodybuilders lose their life very quick - they usually unalive at 50, like a marathonrunner.
If that doesn't happen, your body, all crippled, will have you end up in a wheelchair - like Ronnie Coleman.
Thanks for this G, I took the time to read all of this. Lets get your comment to the top
There was rampant use of steriods in the military in the 80s. I remember watching friends of mine get huge within 6 months. And then watched them have the health issues. One close friend started lactating. The top BDUs were soaked by the end of the day. The ache. The rage.
The military banned any and all steroids use. Legal Consequences of Steroid Use in the Military
Specifically, the use, possession, distribution, or manufacture of a Schedule III substance - such as anabolic steroids and testosterone - can result in dishonorable discharge, reduction in rank, forfeiture of pay, and confinement for up to five years.
The military banned it for a reason.
Outstanding video. Jeff, I started following you almost 10 years ago when I first got into weightlifting. It started as something to stay in shape as I had recently got a desk job. It quickly turned into an obsession as I started noticing gains and learning more about all of it. Your channel was instrumental not only in my learning journey, but also keeping me from going down the steroid route. It’s funny now to think that I almost took the plunge. I had friends on it and others in the gym were on it. It was very tempting.
Looking back, I would have felt like an idiot for going down that road. I’m 31 now and married for 6 years. Steroids would have impacted my life in significantly negative ways, and I’m glad i didn’t go down that road. Thanks for doing what you do for the fitness community. You really care about what’s best for peoples lives in the big picture, and it shows.
I respect Dr. Mike and his honesty. With so much misinformation out there, it’s refreshing to say the least. I’m appreciative that he got so vulnerable. Thanks for compiling this Jeff.
On one hand I respect the honesty. On the other hand he can fix it tomorrow by stopping taking steroids. It almost like talking to a drug addict
I had a friend who took a bunch of steroids and ended up going to the ER four times over the next two months thinking he was dying. Every time he went, the hospital told him it was just anxiety. There are so many expressions of "strength" worth pursuing, would love to see a movement of strong lifters who also build strong families, strong marriages, strong careers, strong friendships, and shoot, strong relationships with God too. That's my angle! Great video Jeff!
Yeah, the longer I explore this space the less captivated I am by my initial pursuit of physical size and strength. I’m learning to be content with what I already have.
I love people like Jeff and Dr. Mike Israetel! they are strictly about science, proof, and most importantly RESULTS THAT CAN BE REPLICATED! You don't see that today with people in almost all industries or communities. Horrible conspiracy theories, bad anecdotes, and misinformation is at an all time high. People think they know better than scientist and think everything in the world is corrupt. It's people like these two, that fight back against all of it in the best way! I'm not extremely educated or an academic, but I look up to our greatest minds to teach us all the incredible things there are in this life.
videos like this one are so important in a world full of misleading information, thanks for making this
Agreed thanks Jeff!
I'm starting on ZBLL this week! That's steroids for 3x3 cuber's 🙂. I'm hoping to reach sub 20 by 2026 👍
I'm a 61 yr old gay man. (this is relevant) I have always been skinny and been in the gym with extremely limited results which have kept me on the very slim side. In the gay community, there are a large portion of guys who juice so they can look hot on the dance floor and have better options for who to get laid with. I've always wanted to be in that position until recently when I realized that confidence weights so much more than muscle. People are naturally attracted to confidence. This took me 40 yrs to realize. I have put it into practice and it has proven itself to be true.
During the lockdown, I got a chin up bar and some resistance bands. I've been using them nearly every day since and I have made some gains and I look SO much better but I am still unable to really fill out a medium size t-shirt.
I have only now, seriously considered doing one cycle just to put me over the edge, then stop and maintain. After watching this, I have decided against that and just continue to sweat it out and grow naturally as my metabolism slows down. The final question is "who am I doing this for?" Steroids mean, for others; natural means for me.
starting off with "i'm a 61 year old gay man (this is relevant)" was funny
You're 61 and still working out. Respect. Definitely keep doing it for you
One cycle is not gonna do much, in all honesty. You're going to make really good progress, and then when you cycle off, you're going to lose a large amount of what you gained on-cycle. It will take a massive amount of mental fortitude to do just one cycle, because you will fall in love with your progress made in those 10 weeks. No one really just does one cycle.
It's good to occasionally take rests from working out, especially the older you get. Every other day working out is perfectly fine, and often better for results for a good percentage of people. The body needs rest.
Cheers, and best to you.
At 61 years old, you don’t need to juice. If you’ve never picked it up. Don’t start. ALTHOUGH i will say you would probably have benefits to your health/physiology if you started TRT. But. that’s just my opinion. If you’ve got the confidence. Rock on. 🏳️🌈
Me: Recommends Jeff Nippard to everyone, including my family, because I consider him to be one of the best ,most responsible and knowledgeable fitness influencers.
Jeff: STEROIDS ARE AWESOME
Hes also an asshole in real life I heard
I personally wish we could go back to the silver era of weight lifting. Where everyone was natural. As a woman I had fears about looking like those women who are on steroids, without realizing that they were on gear. Then I had a friend of mine introduce me to pictures of silver era female body builders, they were slim and feminine, yet strong. So that inspired me to start lifting. My mother died at 29 and I'm currently 28 with a toddler, I want to be healthy and live a long time for my daughter. ❤ Thank you, Jeff, for showing people that its possible.
Praying for you Dr. Mike for freedom from your anxiety
Dr.Mike worships Arnold not god brother
freedom!? that's there to stay..
Good on you, Nippard, for admitting your gear “ponderings”. It’s a bird that flies over my head about once a week. What keeps the urge at bay is I’d have to be on TRT the rest of my life, and for me, that’s the biggest deterrent. Being healthy and taking my body to its potential while taking care of it has always been the goal. Thank you for the transparency and the on point content as always
I had to go on TRT anyway, no gear. 30 years old testosterone was 255 ng/dl. By 38 it was 150 ng/dl with some pretty severe side effects. Doctors couldn’t find a reason for it to be that low. I now take .18 ml injection twice a week, and my testosterone level last checked was 480 ng/dl, about normal and no more symptoms of low testosterone.
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As someone who used PED on and off for 20 years, it’s critical for all of you to get a calcium heart scan to see if you’ve got yourself on a collision course for the future. I am thankful to say that after many years of juice use, and now 15 years on TRT+, I have a score of ZERO! I get tested every 2 years, it’s a easy test and only costed $60 with no insurance. Call your local hospitals today to see if they can get your test done as well. If you have buildup then they can get you on meds to prevent heart attack.
Methyl 1 Testosterone was LEGALLY sold in GNC when I was in high school. Around 2005 I hopped on my first cycle around the age of 15. Man it was amazing, felt like superman and had amazing gains that I kept my whole life, but I certainly crashed hard coming off and of course I didn't use PCT. Even though I managed to keep most of my gains and continued to train hard...psychologically it took a toll. I was and have always been more aggressive and it ruined relationships and friendships over the course of my life. I am way more chill now in my 30s, and keep myself and emotions under control but the feeling inside still amps up at times like when I was on the stuff back in the day.
One of the best, most thorough, and most responsible videos I’ve ever seen on the topic of steroids. I’ve always been aware of the negatives to using PEDs, which is why I decided a long time ago to never touch the stuff, as I want to live as long and healthy a life as possible…but I can see how people who don’t focus on their longevity or who value the quick short term gains over the many potential health and lifestyle risks can decide to use PEDs. More people need to watch this video, as education is everything on this topic. 💪
I agree. I find it worrying for the target audience of many of these bodybuilding influencers, the young teenagers and early 20 year old guys (and maybe gals?). When you are young you think you are invincible and that you are the exception and the negative effects won't apply to you. And body dysphoria is a really problem in that age group as well. With girls it used to be the thing above everything (anorexia). And now for boys it is the muscles (for girls as well, although I find it actually positive for women to be strong. The beauty standards for women is to be thin and weak. Too long have we heard you get "bulky " if you lift a bit of heavier weights. All not true. I just worry that everything will go into the extremes as well for girls.)
Well, you look fkin amazing so you did everything right
I weigh 130 LBs and never have I remotely considered taking steriods. But I still loved watching the entire 16-minute video. The topic wasn't even too relevant for me and I was engaged throughout. That's how you know this is quality content.
This has been some of the best open conversation about steroids I have seen in recent time. I look up to Dr. Mike and appreciate the honesty.
The talk about abscesses caused me to remember a time I was spotting a dude on squats who was open about his past steroid abuse. I admired him for being honest and coming clean and having a positive attitude towards training naturally again.
His skin was a mess though and covered in scars from acne. Anyway he got set up under the barbell and as I was spotting him the barbell caused an abscess on his neck to rupture which was pretty horrifying being so close to it as I was spotting it. I swear with any more pressure it might have spurted onto me 🤢
Jesus Christ, that is wild
Dialling nutrition up to 11 entirely changed my body more than I expected after 3 years of serious lifting, I went from being at good-nutrition 80% of the time to great-nutrition 90% of the time, hitting macros 28+ days out of 30, eating a fistload of veggies every day, and keeping my calories at about 100-200 above maintenance, takes more effort than working out tbh. Worth it.
Congratulations bro, nutrition is easily the hardest part of lifting. Most people have an appetite that isn't quite optimized for their goals
The editing and explanation for the mechanism of entry is simply incredible.
My levels were checked at age 25, and were 201, 220 and 248, 3 months apart. The doctor was an older man and didn't bother prescribing TRT. He said more than likely it's stress, lack of sleep. I'm in great shape and exercise 5-6 times a week, it's a shame most doctors would rather let it go untreated because he thought I was seeking it out. Unfortunately it leads people to ordering it themselves online
11:50 the way he looks at the camera when he says it makes me believe he's talking to someone in particular
Bro this is exactly the video I’ve been looking for for the past 2 years. Even after talking to lifters on gear I was still on the fence, because the whole picture wasn’t very clear. But now I know. THANK YOU 💪🏽
and what is your final conclusion will u hop on gear or not?
Do it, Do it, he’s gonna do it lol
@@leo8646 I won't. Lean is always better than big af anyways. Just look at some Greek statues for inspiration
Don’t do it
@@dereklee4827 bro dont say that
Dr Mike is probably the realest most down to earth guy in fitness…
Holy shit Dr Mike was sounding and looking pretty anxious.
Yeah, and he said so at the beginning of the interview that he's close to panicking and you really could see it. Really sad to see
I hope he's doing alright
I appreciate the good documentation on this topic from multiple people, not just OP. I'm a prior military (was Marine Infantry) guy, used to lift a lot in school, never did gear. In fact, I was stricter in the military days (no creatine or anything else because messing with your chemistry can drop you dead in a hot desert without warning especially under 782 gear). Well, I got injured pretty badly a few years before my contract was up and had to get out when that time came around (I never was a fan of that, since I didn't really get to make a choice). For a long time, I kept doing field exercises and kill drills with gear instead of lifting or gym stuff (you can definitely maintain serious fitness that way, I might add). No matter what I did though, I could never get back to where I wanted to be. I would always hit plateaus after so much rehab work or whatever dealing with prior injuries. I had been thinking about doing a baby dose after making sure I had gotten rid of any fat I could and had a completely clean blood chemistry. Of course, it's hard to be sure with those potential side effects. I hate being stuck being less effective than I used to be though, so it's a tough decision, but maybe that's what I get for having survived dozens and dozens of things that would have killed most people.
Jeff used the Kurzgesagt - In a Nutshell title strategy from the smoking video. Worked like a charm. Bringing honest information to the general public needs catchy title and video framework like that great work my guy!!!
Yeah, it's all factual, like recommending "weight lifting" because it's "so healthy for you".
What's that? Someone 30 kg overweight, with lots of fat storage, is the same as someone 30 kg overweight, but this guy has muscles? Noooo... couldn't be, right? Losing your life young, childless and on a constant drug regiment seems SO HEALTHY.
@@revisit8480uhhh what?
Respect for the transparency in this video. I wish it was more common to discuss this.
55 year old average lifter here. The one mistake I did not make was taking steroids! I learned a lot with this video I did not know.
The last bit of the video was best.
Steroids are just a very dangerous shortcut.
Dude what?
@@JWard2He doesn't use steroids and doesn't regret it.
So my total T is at 1400ngdl. Before the weekly supplementation, I was at 350. In my first 30 days I added 7lbs of fat free mass without working out. Since then, the next two weeks I began working out and adding protein and calorie surplus, I gained another 3lbs of fat free mass, totaling 10lbs of fat free mass in just 45 days. My quality of life is also amazingly improved. I would highly recommend testosterone, but not exceeding a total T level of 1300~. When I get past 1400, side effects like roid rage are evident to say the least.
Had stopped checking on your videos for a while just do to lack of interest and time for bodybuilding. Honestly I clicked because of the click bait title... but im glad it worked, this is ridiculously well done, the science and visuals are perfect for explaining this, solid video.
Hit the weights Gendo and drink a protein shake brother get some meat on those bones! We all have to make time if you don’t wanna be a skinny biotch
I have been watching you for quite a while. Thanks for all your tips. I also followed RP since the pandemic. I am at 60 year of age, i am all natural, not a body builder.
My family has Alzheimer disease. My father died of cancer. I was clinically depressed. Lifting has been my ‘drug’ since I found out earlier in it would curb my depression. I am still gaining muscles at my ripe 60 year of age. I appreciate this non biased Q&A. Your postings definitely help. Keep it up Jeff!
Do you have a supplement regimen to keep your gains? I am starting to see age-related muscle loss and want to reverse it,
@@sengrattus I make sure my protein intake is sufficient, and always train close to failure, with two day recovery for each muscle group trained.