Sounds fantastic! I learned a few things from V&H about mapping. I have a 2017 FatBoy S and I put on some Big Shots and have their Auto Tuner. Now as most of you know, the tuner has to take the main initial map on the bike from HD, it’s in spot #1 or saved as the main map and the tuner uses it to write from. Where there was a problem was when HD had a recall on a bike and they re-mapped the bike, which would erase the maps you put on the bike with the auto tuner from V&H or other tuners, and now the bike has a new map from HD as an initial map, and it will be different from the one you have saved on your auto tuner in the #1 spot. People would get their bike back and plug in their tuner and re-upload their tune they saved on their tuner. What this did was try to write a map back on their bike from that initial HD tune and the bikes wouldn’t start because HD erased everything and made a completely different main or initial map. You have to have that map in the #1 spot on your auto tuner. So if HD ever remaps your bike, don’t try to install one of your saved maps on your auto tuner. Go in and delete everything on the auto tuner and start it over from scratch. Probably best to call V&H too just to make sure you have it all erased on your auto tuner. Then go through the steps to put the HD new map in the #1 spot again on your tuner. If you fail to do it, prepare to spend hours upon hours of trouble shooting just to get your bike to even start. I was fortunate to have heard about this and I called V&H after Harley did the recall on my bike and rewrote my initial map. The V&H tech told me I just saved myself a huge headache and probably a couple hundred dollars in hauling the bike back to the dealership and have them remap it again which would have been out of my pocket. Hope this helps save any of you if you have an auto tuner. The more you know, the better you ride! Thanks for the video and keep em coming.
Harley Dave Oh you’re welcome. If you have your own tuner and you have used it, and Harley retunes it, erase your tuner first and then start from scratch again. I guess that’s as easy as I can say it. I did finally make a video on it on my channel. Beautiful bike you got there.
Awesome video. Really appreciate the real world review. I know camera will never be like being there but heck of a lot better than other people’s videos where they crank up in a garage and thinking a loud noise is doing anything for viewers trying to make decisions. This is by far the best review. As close to being present as it can get. Keep up the good work.
Thanks for the nice comment. I try to make vids that I would want to see too and also dislike garage starts. They just resonate and sound louder than they really are.
Soo beautiful! Never saw the Kahuna collection before, I guess I pimp my RG with the hole stuff of it. Iam very surprised of the nice and clean look, fits perfect to the blacked out Harley Specials. Thank you again for the Great Ideas! Greetz from germany
I think it sounds good! 👌I’m currently running a V&H 2 into 1 propipe. It’s nice but i want something with more grunt and performance. I like this exhaust match!
Main thing is it’s not too loud on medium to long rides or for environmental decibel laws. Here in Australia 🇦🇺 it can get like California. Bike looks very well setup. Are you going to add any back support?
Hi Dave sweet ride and liking the content! I'm considering V&H dresser duals purely from an aesthetic point of view, but I don't want to have an unresponsive ride. In your opinion do the power duals provide you with a huge performance upgrade over a true dual header? or is the difference minimal? Thanks.
Thanks for the compliment. I tried the dresser duals for about 1 week and then sold them. There is a distinct difference in torque between the dresser duals and power duals.
I've just ordered this windshield for my vivid black roadking special. I hadn't noticed the chrome in pictures until you just mentioned it. Doh! Powder coating is a great idea
DeMonte' Lackey Funny you mention that. I have a FatBoy S and I found one of those windshields in an old shop and dude sold it to me for $50. I had to fab a bracket to get it to fit my bike as it was made for a Road King and it had the black brackets but my fab work was stainless steel and I never painted it black and everyone kept asking me if I was gonna paint it black too. It’s a great windshield too.
Harley Brown I know. It was a huge bargain. I was in New Mexico at an old motorcycle shop and it was sitting in the window. I asked about it and the man said they got it a few years ago when they bought an older Road King. It was on it. They sold the bike but the buyer didn’t want it. So it sat in their window for a while and I was the first and only person who ever asked about it. They had it listed for $250. I said it probably won’t even fit my bike. We took it outside to check fitment and it wouldn’t fit and I said I’d have to do some fabrication and he said I could have it for $50 cash if I was interested. So I bought it. Think he just wanted it gone. Retails new for over $450 here.
Just got a 2018 street glide..107...waiting for tab exhaust.. not sure what tuner I'm gonna use...I had the FP3 on my street bob.......traded my 2016 street bob...had 12k ..2018 street glide has 200...not for long😎
A question about the power duals....have you scraped them when cornering? I came off a sport bike and have a tendency to corner hard on my street glide, I scrape the floorboards often. Have you noticed any clearance issues with the X-pipe? Thanks and your bike is beautiful man safe riding.
Thanks for the compliment! No, I have zero issues with those pipes and cornering. Due to the way they sit on the bike, you will still scrape the floorboards first.
Harley changed their aftermarket warranty policies a couple of years ago. Using nearly anything but screaming eagle parts will void your warranty now. There are a ton of videos about this so feel free to investigate it so I don't mislead you with my interpretation.
Pro tip if you use any tuner other than HD SE you will void your POWERTRAIN warranty. The tech will know as soon as they hook up the computer. Slip ons you can get away with. Good rule of thumb if it's not SE performance going on your bike within the first 60 days of ownership it will more than likely void your warranty. Hope this helps.
Hi, nice video ! I want to do that on my road king special, but is it too load ? I don’t want to be the bad neighbor when going to work at 7 AM this summer ? Thx
Dave, Hope this finds you. What tuner are you using? Is it Vance and Hines? If so, did you have any issues with the Cam you’re using and the V and H tuner?
Hello. I intially tried the fuel pack with my s&s cam and after many attempts for v&h resending a correction map to me, they never got it right and the bike ran like crap. I ended up switching to a power vision with a fuel Moto map and the bike is amazing now. Hope that helps.
That’s what I suspected. Ive been doing a lot of research and have been told the fuel pak is fine for stage one but not for a cam. I stumbled upon your videos while researching and I really like and appreciate you posting them. Im learning a lot from them. I’m going to use the same set up on my 2019 Street Glide. Thanks so much and keep the rubber down. Tom from Columbus, Ohio.
Your bike sounds awesome man! How's the throttle response and torque off the line with that setup? I have the tab zombies, s&s intake and power vision on my Street glide. Just need the 475 cam and headers.
Thanks for the compliment!! Throttle response and torque are amazing!! I recently went from a fp3 to the power vision and it blew my mind. I have a video about that too. 😋
@@harleydave2316 no problem! That's good to hear about the throttle response. Glad you like the power vision. I've had one on my last two bikes and wouldn't use any other tuner. I'm sold on the 475 cam, still deciding on the headers though. fullsac mx pipes or the Vance and Hines power duals. Thanks for the reply and stay safe out there!
Hey Dave, I've watched all your vids on your new bike here. . You have convinced me to run a similar setup on a street glide m8. People keep talking about torque loss with this setup on harley pages. You have spent some time with your current setup including the zombie torque cones and rings. Do you feel you lost a lot of torque? Love the vids man
The zombie baffles by themselves will cause a little low end torque lost but their cones or dk customs inserts will fix it completely. Thanks for watching!!
Yeah, I was told that by Fuel Moto too but the bike runs absolutely amazing and has tons of power. There is a reason why the zombies are so popular... 😁
What is the difference with running Tabs with Power Duals vs any other head pipe without a cat? I guess I don’t under stand why you couldn’t use the Tabs with Power Duals.
The canned map for these pipes made my bike perform like crap and it was jerky on acceleration. V&H had to make a custom map for me which took a couple of rides and calling them back to dial it in. I have since learned that the fp3 is not the best tuner for cams and I switched to the power vision with a fuel moto map. Best decision I could have done for my bike!!! There is a vid about that too. 😋
@@harleydave2316 wow..I hope i dont have that issue...i.have pretty much the same parts on order that you have...except for the cam....hope they can duplicate it.....I uploaded a short video walk around so I can see and hear the difference..thanks
@@harleydave2316 next will.be shocks...definitely needs better shocks..ride feels harder then my street bob I had...I seen it today while I was ordering. The harley tax..ouch...instead of a high flow open type air cleaner I'm getting the engine loosed one kind of like what the stock one looks like except black..with cruiser I dont want to worry about rain soaking it...many long rides next spring and summer..btw seems I am one step behind you on types of bike...lol. you had fat bob I got street bob...you get road king..I get street glide...run stalker
Sounds mean as hell. I’m torn between the V&H Hi Outputs or these zombie baffles. Have you heard the Hi Outputs? Why did you go with the zombie baffles? Keep up the videos man
I have heard Hi Outputs and they sound great at idle but too quiet for me while riding. I want to hear them bark while cruising at 60 mph and the Zombies deliver. (especially if you have a cam)
@@harleydave2316 talked to two different Harley dealers in two different states. Both dealers recommended the Tabs over the Hi Outputs and they already recommended to pair it with the power duals. They said that the Hi Outputs really isn’t meant for the M8 motor. So looks like I’m getting the Tabs. Cheers
All you guys are a great source of information, and I say "thanks" for sharing. Question, I heard (from the most respected bike performance tuner business) that piped with no baffles like TAB are bad for performance. Can anyoneone share their experience?
Lmao the company that sends you a kit to make your own mufflers 😂. Or for $100 more you can buy some recycled mufflers. Not to mention reviews of "cheap" and "create a lot of heat".
@@jerryhubbard4461 I don't recall saying I had them 🤔 it seems it's more of an issue of you not being able to afford higher-priced slip-ons so you're just dogging them to make yourself feel better.
@@micahstrange9651 you are so smart. I don't care what others put on their bike. Not my business. I am just trying to pass information about a product that really works for a fraction of the cost. I have no connections to American Custom but I am on my second set of mufflers. I enjoy keeping my ride looking stock with a different performance without ball for the dealer crap. HD dealers are making a killing off selling V&H to. those with the money to spend and no performance. It is not a personal thing but the sound of those pipes are like tin cans. Even my 2010 Heritage had AC exhaust along with the stock air box cover on a stage II setup. To each his own.
Sounds fantastic! I learned a few things from V&H about mapping. I have a 2017 FatBoy S and I put on some Big Shots and have their Auto Tuner. Now as most of you know, the tuner has to take the main initial map on the bike from HD, it’s in spot #1 or saved as the main map and the tuner uses it to write from. Where there was a problem was when HD had a recall on a bike and they re-mapped the bike, which would erase the maps you put on the bike with the auto tuner from V&H or other tuners, and now the bike has a new map from HD as an initial map, and it will be different from the one you have saved on your auto tuner in the #1 spot. People would get their bike back and plug in their tuner and re-upload their tune they saved on their tuner. What this did was try to write a map back on their bike from that initial HD tune and the bikes wouldn’t start because HD erased everything and made a completely different main or initial map. You have to have that map in the #1 spot on your auto tuner. So if HD ever remaps your bike, don’t try to install one of your saved maps on your auto tuner. Go in and delete everything on the auto tuner and start it over from scratch. Probably best to call V&H too just to make sure you have it all erased on your auto tuner. Then go through the steps to put the HD new map in the #1 spot again on your tuner. If you fail to do it, prepare to spend hours upon hours of trouble shooting just to get your bike to even start. I was fortunate to have heard about this and I called V&H after Harley did the recall on my bike and rewrote my initial map. The V&H tech told me I just saved myself a huge headache and probably a couple hundred dollars in hauling the bike back to the dealership and have them remap it again which would have been out of my pocket. Hope this helps save any of you if you have an auto tuner. The more you know, the better you ride! Thanks for the video and keep em coming.
Thanks for sharing that!! I'm thinking about getting her Dyno'd and this will essentially let me back it up afterward.
Harley Dave Oh you’re welcome. If you have your own tuner and you have used it, and Harley retunes it, erase your tuner first and then start from scratch again. I guess that’s as easy as I can say it. I did finally make a video on it on my channel. Beautiful bike you got there.
Awesome video. Really appreciate the real world review. I know camera will never be like being there but heck of a lot better than other people’s videos where they crank up in a garage and thinking a loud noise is doing anything for viewers trying to make decisions. This is by far the best review. As close to being present as it can get. Keep up the good work.
Thanks for the nice comment. I try to make vids that I would want to see too and also dislike garage starts. They just resonate and sound louder than they really are.
Spot on review! You get a true assessment of what the setup really sounds like. Thanks for sharing!
Thats the cross over pipe to equal out the pressure on each side,its common on fuel injection. Damn it sounds good, gotta love the Road King
I really like the muted blacked out look. I prefer it way more than all the chrome. Nice ride!
Best presentation of this V&H combo on the YT!
Well thank you!
Great sound. I’ve just purchased the power duals and I’m about to add them to my cobra 6300s
beautiful bike! sounds awesome!
The ultimate combination.... Awesome
Soo beautiful! Never saw the Kahuna collection before, I guess I pimp my RG with the hole stuff of it. Iam very surprised of the nice and clean look, fits perfect to the blacked out Harley Specials. Thank you again for the Great Ideas! Greetz from germany
Thx Dave. I have a 19 SGS. 475C cam, Trask filter and Tab Zombie’s.
Looking for a good head pipe. You may have me convinced. Thx for the vid.
I think it sounds good! 👌I’m currently running a V&H 2 into 1 propipe. It’s nice but i want something with more grunt and performance. I like this exhaust match!
Bike Sounds Excellent Thanks From North Dakota!!!
Main thing is it’s not too loud on medium to long rides or for environmental decibel laws. Here in Australia 🇦🇺 it can get like California. Bike looks very well setup. Are you going to add any back support?
That's the next thing I'm doing to my Tri Glide,it makes a big difference, your bike is sounding great 👍, ✌️ N ❤️brother
Pipes sound awesome!
Harley sounds sick!! 👍👍
Good vid would have been better if you let it idle a little bit so we could hear that as well and a couple throttle cracks
Did they interfere with taking the transmission side cover off to change the clutch fluid?
Excellent question, I would also like to know this.
What cam do you have? I have a buddy that has the same exhaust and installed a Woods Torque cam and man is it loud.
So does this sound more like the classic Harley sound that was hard to achieve with the introduction of the Milwaukee 8?
Hi Dave sweet ride and liking the content! I'm considering V&H dresser duals purely from an aesthetic point of view, but I don't want to have an unresponsive ride. In your opinion do the power duals provide you with a huge performance upgrade over a true dual header? or is the difference minimal? Thanks.
Thanks for the compliment. I tried the dresser duals for about 1 week and then sold them. There is a distinct difference in torque between the dresser duals and power duals.
You thought about powder coating the brackets on the windshield? Pipes sound awesome!
Actually I hadn't but it's a great idea!!! Thanks for that and also watching.
I've just ordered this windshield for my vivid black roadking special. I hadn't noticed the chrome in pictures until you just mentioned it. Doh! Powder coating is a great idea
DeMonte' Lackey Funny you mention that. I have a FatBoy S and I found one of those windshields in an old shop and dude sold it to me for $50. I had to fab a bracket to get it to fit my bike as it was made for a Road King and it had the black brackets but my fab work was stainless steel and I never painted it black and everyone kept asking me if I was gonna paint it black too. It’s a great windshield too.
@@Kornholeeoo 50! That's a bargain. Over 800 here in New Zealand
Harley Brown I know. It was a huge bargain. I was in New Mexico at an old motorcycle shop and it was sitting in the window. I asked about it and the man said they got it a few years ago when they bought an older Road King. It was on it. They sold the bike but the buyer didn’t want it. So it sat in their window for a while and I was the first and only person who ever asked about it. They had it listed for $250. I said it probably won’t even fit my bike. We took it outside to check fitment and it wouldn’t fit and I said I’d have to do some fabrication and he said I could have it for $50 cash if I was interested. So I bought it. Think he just wanted it gone. Retails new for over $450 here.
Do you have a cam installed in this video? Or just slip ons and head pipe ?
Excellent vid! how do you like the windshield?
I like it a lot. So far my favorite from all the bikes I have owned with nearly no buffeting.
Just got a 2018 street glide..107...waiting for tab exhaust.. not sure what tuner I'm gonna use...I had the FP3 on my street bob.......traded my 2016 street bob...had 12k ..2018 street glide has 200...not for long😎
Are you going to make a video?
A question about the power duals....have you scraped them when cornering? I came off a sport bike and have a tendency to corner hard on my street glide, I scrape the floorboards often. Have you noticed any clearance issues with the X-pipe? Thanks and your bike is beautiful man safe riding.
Thanks for the compliment! No, I have zero issues with those pipes and cornering. Due to the way they sit on the bike, you will still scrape the floorboards first.
Harley Dave Thanks again for your response much appreciated and keep the shiny side up!
Beautiful bike
Sounds freaking amazing!
Did doing all this work to your Bike did any of these add on mods Void your Harley warranty???
Harley changed their aftermarket warranty policies a couple of years ago. Using nearly anything but screaming eagle parts will void your warranty now. There are a ton of videos about this so feel free to investigate it so I don't mislead you with my interpretation.
Pro tip if you use any tuner other than HD SE you will void your POWERTRAIN warranty. The tech will know as soon as they hook up the computer. Slip ons you can get away with.
Good rule of thumb if it's not SE performance going on your bike within the first 60 days of ownership it will more than likely void your warranty. Hope this helps.
what map did you use after this? do you have a fuel pak?
Bike sounds great what type of windscreen is it
Harley windsplitter. I love it!
Hi, nice video ! I want to do that on my road king special, but is it too load ? I don’t want to be the bad neighbor when going to work at 7 AM this summer ? Thx
It's loud. Very loud.
So I tried doing this exact set up and my local harley shop said the power duals won't work with tab. Did you have to modify the heat shields?
No, your dealer is mistaken. There are literally TONS of people that use this head pipe with Tab slip-ons.
Dave, Hope this finds you. What tuner are you using? Is it Vance and Hines? If so, did you have any issues with the Cam you’re using and the V and H tuner?
Hello. I intially tried the fuel pack with my s&s cam and after many attempts for v&h resending a correction map to me, they never got it right and the bike ran like crap. I ended up switching to a power vision with a fuel Moto map and the bike is amazing now. Hope that helps.
That’s what I suspected. Ive been doing a lot of research and have been told the fuel pak is fine for stage one but not for a cam. I stumbled upon your videos while researching and I really like and appreciate you posting them. Im learning a lot from them. I’m going to use the same set up on my 2019 Street Glide. Thanks so much and keep the rubber down. Tom from Columbus, Ohio.
Hi, Is VH power dual compatible with reinhart slip on?
Where did you get your windshield from??
Great sound, stock engine?
Damn she sound good..
Whats the total cost of doing such a thing?
Haven’t been doing cruising vlogs lately! Miss them
I hear you... I made one today and it is processing right now in UA-cam. It will be live shortly. :)
Harley Dave awesome!
Thank you
is there a cam installed?
Your bike sounds awesome man! How's the throttle response and torque off the line with that setup? I have the tab zombies, s&s intake and power vision on my Street glide. Just need the 475 cam and headers.
Thanks for the compliment!! Throttle response and torque are amazing!! I recently went from a fp3 to the power vision and it blew my mind. I have a video about that too. 😋
@@harleydave2316 no problem! That's good to hear about the throttle response. Glad you like the power vision. I've had one on my last two bikes and wouldn't use any other tuner. I'm sold on the 475 cam, still deciding on the headers though. fullsac mx pipes or the Vance and Hines power duals. Thanks for the reply and stay safe out there!
What cam do you have?
Hey Dave, I've watched all your vids on your new bike here. . You have convinced me to run a similar setup on a street glide m8. People keep talking about torque loss with this setup on harley pages. You have spent some time with your current setup including the zombie torque cones and rings. Do you feel you lost a lot of torque? Love the vids man
The zombie baffles by themselves will cause a little low end torque lost but their cones or dk customs inserts will fix it completely. Thanks for watching!!
Sound is badass!😎
Local HD told me that I wouldn't be able to use my tabs because of lack of a cat in the heads. I guess you proved them wrong!
Yeah, I was told that by Fuel Moto too but the bike runs absolutely amazing and has tons of power. There is a reason why the zombies are so popular... 😁
What is the difference with running Tabs with Power Duals vs any other head pipe without a cat? I guess I don’t under stand why you couldn’t use the Tabs with Power Duals.
How did you fit the TABS over the power duals?
I'm not understanding your question. The Tabs are just slipons, which are universal for the M8 pipes.
@@harleydave2316 Lol I am not mechanically inclined. I did not realize The ends were different at first. WOW they are loud 😆 Thanks
Sounds great
Are you still using a stock air cleaner?
No, it's a Harley big sucker.
How loud when cruising
Sorry double post....what do you mean you had to get a remap from V&H....didnt the FP3 have a map set up already
The canned map for these pipes made my bike perform like crap and it was jerky on acceleration. V&H had to make a custom map for me which took a couple of rides and calling them back to dial it in. I have since learned that the fp3 is not the best tuner for cams and I switched to the power vision with a fuel moto map. Best decision I could have done for my bike!!! There is a vid about that too. 😋
@@harleydave2316 wow..I hope i dont have that issue...i.have pretty much the same parts on order that you have...except for the cam....hope they can duplicate it.....I uploaded a short video walk around so I can see and hear the difference..thanks
@@smokeGR14 I think you will be fine. The Fp3 just doesn't do well with cams...
@@harleydave2316 next will.be shocks...definitely needs better shocks..ride feels harder then my street bob I had...I seen it today while I was ordering. The harley tax..ouch...instead of a high flow open type air cleaner I'm getting the engine loosed one kind of like what the stock one looks like except black..with cruiser I dont want to worry about rain soaking it...many long rides next spring and summer..btw seems I am one step behind you on types of bike...lol. you had fat bob I got street bob...you get road king..I get street glide...run stalker
Amazing bike
How’s that windshield work?
As I am moving, I create a force on the abmiant air around me. That air hits the windshield and pushes it upward and over my head.
Ok never mind,diff not stock cam,I asked before watching video.
1:55
4 or 4.5 zombie slipons ?
4.5
Sounds good
Did you upgrade your cam as well?
Yes. I have a s&s 475 cam.
What type of slip on do you using?
Hi ,Sounds like you have a cam aswell??
Yep. This video already had the 475 cam installed. One of the previous videos has stock sounds with this pipe if you want to hear that.
Nioce
Sounds mean as hell. I’m torn between the V&H Hi Outputs or these zombie baffles. Have you heard the Hi Outputs? Why did you go with the zombie baffles? Keep up the videos man
I have heard Hi Outputs and they sound great at idle but too quiet for me while riding. I want to hear them bark while cruising at 60 mph and the Zombies deliver. (especially if you have a cam)
@@harleydave2316 talked to two different Harley dealers in two different states. Both dealers recommended the Tabs over the Hi Outputs and they already recommended to pair it with the power duals. They said that the Hi Outputs really isn’t meant for the M8 motor. So looks like I’m getting the Tabs. Cheers
@@huskerjock let them know I sent ya and maybe they will give you a discount. Probably not though. Haha
@@harleydave2316 we’ll see. I’m only 2 1/2 hours away from their shop so that’s another reason to get their exhaust. Support local businesses
All you guys are a great source of information, and I say "thanks" for sharing.
Question, I heard (from the most respected bike performance tuner business) that piped with no baffles like TAB are bad for performance. Can anyoneone share their experience?
Are these CAT’d?
Nope
@@harleydave2316 what size TAB Zombie - 4 or 4.5” ? Thanks and great vid!!
That's a standard... Special has a 114
0:42 you clearly see the 114 badge, don't know what you mean by your statement
Standard is chrome all around
Stock cam?
No. I have S&S 475 and tappets.
Next you want to get an exhaust that sounds like an HD should, check out American Custom Exhaust. Those things you have now sound like two tin cans
Lmao the company that sends you a kit to make your own mufflers 😂. Or for $100 more you can buy some recycled mufflers. Not to mention reviews of "cheap" and "create a lot of heat".
@@micahstrange9651 Don't it just piss you off to know you were suckered into paying a fortune for this tin cans you have. lol
@@jerryhubbard4461 I don't recall saying I had them 🤔 it seems it's more of an issue of you not being able to afford higher-priced slip-ons so you're just dogging them to make yourself feel better.
@@micahstrange9651 you are so smart. I don't care what others put on their bike. Not my business. I am just trying to pass information about a product that really works for a fraction of the cost. I have no connections to American Custom but I am on my second set of mufflers. I enjoy keeping my ride looking stock with a different performance without ball for the dealer crap. HD dealers are making a killing off selling V&H to. those with the money to spend and no performance. It is not a personal thing but the sound of those pipes are like tin cans. Even my 2010 Heritage had AC exhaust along with the stock air box cover on a stage II setup. To each his own.
Daaaammmmnnnnn.....)
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Stock cam?
Stock cam?