If only we did live in a rational world! MJ fans always get labelled as “crazy” I don’t recall any “famous” child abuser having so many people support them and try to prove their innocence! The facts are clear as day...he is innocent and that’s why the fans fight so hard to this day! It’s not about being a crazy fan it’s about justice! ✌🏽
James Safechuck's case was dismissed as a final ruling on October 21st, 2020. Wade Robson's motion to supoena Tabitha Marks and Lily Chandler was dismissed on December 4th. Do you think its possible for Wade and James could be charged for extortion?
Same happened to me, and millions of people. As a fan, yet still using my brain rather than my heart, I believed the accusers (because I thought if someone was to lie about abuse they must be sick in the head and in fact they were) but so many details were grabbing me and I saw how one-sided things had always been for many years, so I went to research a lot of stuff and it didn't take me long to feel stupid in "believing" the accusations. I then continued to research and the more I did it the more I found out. Michael's innocence is certainly proven to this day, the accusations remained just that: simply accusations, words, with not a shred of evidence. RIP MICHAEL we know the truth!
Michael was caught between a rock and a hard place. I really can't hold the settlement against him. Yes, the settlement was a mistake, but he had to make the choice of either having his defense aired out in a civil trial (that was unfairly and unconstitutionally scheduled before a criminal trial) and have his entire defense aired out so the prosecution could change dates and details to their liking, or settle the civil suit so his defense could be protected and he could have a fair trial. It turns out, however, that the case never (nor would it have ever) made it to trial because there was no evidence. Hindsight is 20/20. Had Michael known then what he knew later, he probably wouldn't have settled. Also, he waited until the last minute to settle, so it's not like it was a quick, easy decision. He settled the day before the civil trial would've taken place. I do wish he had more faith that he would've won if he did go to trial, but I understand what was going through his mind. Also, he had some bad advisors in his ear, so that didn't help as well. He was in a very difficult situation.
@@CarolinaGonzalez-ik8mj you're right they were a total fraud. I've just read Mary Fischers article 'Was Michael Jackson Framed' & recently bought 'Conspiracy' by Aphrodite Jones and it is shocking how much the world doesn't know about the 1993 & 2005 cases. All the information & the truth of Michael's innocence is out there but the media has no interest in it. The media is desperate to control the narrative about Michael being a child abuser. When judges kicked out wade&james's cases a few years ago because of a lack of evidence and they knew they were lying, wade&james went grovelling & snivelling to the court of public opinion and the media was desperate to get behind them, support them, believe them & claim they were telling the truth. The media promoted leaving neverland as overwhelming evidence that michael was guilty. Since then leaving neverland has been extensively debunked and wade&james have been exposed as pathological liars many times over. There are more provable lies in leaving neverland than any documentary in history. The way the media promoted leaving neverland was like an onslaught of propaganda. I'm sure david geffen is partly behind leaving neverland. Considering oprah winfrey was abused 3 times as a child, isn't it strange that last year she celebrated her 65th birthday watching leaving neverland on david geffens boat. She was watching it before it was aired on tv.
Thank you JZ for your intellectually logic views I can think of many people who did a fantastic job as you to prove Michael Jacksons innocents of the LN mockumentary and those pathetic vile liars WR< JS and DR. I love you JZ again thank you you're awesome.
Loved this. I had the same exact thoughts on how there were no new victims after the release of LN. Hell not even Jordan Chandler or Gavin Arvizo joined this documentary. I believe the award was a political move, it was a way to force the narrative.
How is it that Ziegler stated, "the lawsuit settlement was incredibly dumb," when MJ's counselors and attorneys decided the settlement HAD TO BE DONE? Ziegler talks about Danny Wu's "SQUARE ONE" like he saw it, but it clearly states the facts of the case. Also, TheMJCast-Episode 121 at 56.01, MJ's hairdresser, Carol LaMere hears a phone call Jordie Chandler makes to MJ while having his hair styled by C.M. The young boy cries while asking MJ's forgiveness for the court case that his dad caused. (A long and extremely interesting story follows). Mr. Arvizo (2005 trial) tells Carol LaMere that his children were taught and primed to lie for $$$$$ and goods. The PARENTS of both boys wanted $$ just as Wade and his "partner" wants $$. Wade+ will get what they deserve. R.I.P. Michael~~~
For the MJ Fans go to 40:20
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If only we did live in a rational world! MJ fans always get labelled as “crazy” I don’t recall any “famous” child abuser having so many people support them and try to prove their innocence! The facts are clear as day...he is innocent and that’s why the fans fight so hard to this day! It’s not about being a crazy fan it’s about justice! ✌🏽
Yes that is true
Spot on John Ziegler about Michael Jackson, Thank you 🌹♥️
So true about MJ, not one single person came forward after that mockumentry, thank you John Ziegler ❤️❤️🇬🇧
“In a rational world this movie has been completely discredited.”
Not one new accuser. NOT ONE.
Michael Jackson will FOREVER live in our hearts!We, fans, will NEVER let him down. He Was,IS and ALWAYS BE THE KING.PERIOD.
James Safechuck's case was dismissed as a final ruling on October 21st, 2020.
Wade Robson's motion to supoena Tabitha Marks and Lily Chandler was dismissed on December 4th.
Do you think its possible for Wade and James could be charged for extortion?
Thank you PETER & JOHN 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾✨
Looking forward to the upcoming Penn State podcast!
Great interview with interesting perspectives. Thanks for both questions and answers!
The French Media tore Dan Reed a new one for that BS mockumentary
John went from believing the MJ allegations to actually seeing through the bullshit and I was here since the beginning! Great journey
Same happened to me, and millions of people.
As a fan, yet still using my brain rather than my heart, I believed the accusers (because I thought if someone was to lie about abuse they must be sick in the head and in fact they were) but so many details were grabbing me and I saw how one-sided things had always been for many years, so I went to research a lot of stuff and it didn't take me long to feel stupid in "believing" the accusations. I then continued to research and the more I did it the more I found out.
Michael's innocence is certainly proven to this day, the accusations remained just that: simply accusations, words, with not a shred of evidence.
RIP MICHAEL we know the truth!
ZIEGLER is the TRUTH..
i must add, it was a mistake to pay - but Michael really had no choice, he was literally cornered, watch Square One - it's really all in there
You're right. It was a mistake for Michael to pay which he did regret.
Michael was caught between a rock and a hard place. I really can't hold the settlement against him. Yes, the settlement was a mistake, but he had to make the choice of either having his defense aired out in a civil trial (that was unfairly and unconstitutionally scheduled before a criminal trial) and have his entire defense aired out so the prosecution could change dates and details to their liking, or settle the civil suit so his defense could be protected and he could have a fair trial. It turns out, however, that the case never (nor would it have ever) made it to trial because there was no evidence. Hindsight is 20/20. Had Michael known then what he knew later, he probably wouldn't have settled. Also, he waited until the last minute to settle, so it's not like it was a quick, easy decision. He settled the day before the civil trial would've taken place. I do wish he had more faith that he would've won if he did go to trial, but I understand what was going through his mind. Also, he had some bad advisors in his ear, so that didn't help as well. He was in a very difficult situation.
MICHAEL JACKSON IS INNOCENT watch (Square One), on Amazon Prime and watch (Loving Neverland) on UA-cam
Accuse civilly before a criminal trial is totally illegal and unconstitutional. 1993 allegations were totally a FRAUD.
@@CarolinaGonzalez-ik8mj you're right they were a total fraud. I've just read Mary Fischers article 'Was Michael Jackson Framed' & recently bought 'Conspiracy' by Aphrodite Jones and it is shocking how much the world doesn't know about the 1993 & 2005 cases. All the information & the truth of Michael's innocence is out there but the media has no interest in it. The media is desperate to control the narrative about Michael being a child abuser. When judges kicked out wade&james's cases a few years ago because of a lack of evidence and they knew they were lying, wade&james went grovelling & snivelling to the court of public opinion and the media was desperate to get behind them, support them, believe them & claim they were telling the truth. The media promoted leaving neverland as overwhelming evidence that michael was guilty. Since then leaving neverland has been extensively debunked and wade&james have been exposed as pathological liars many times over. There are more provable lies in leaving neverland than any documentary in history. The way the media promoted leaving neverland was like an onslaught of propaganda. I'm sure david geffen is partly behind leaving neverland. Considering oprah winfrey was abused 3 times as a child, isn't it strange that last year she celebrated her 65th birthday watching leaving neverland on david geffens boat. She was watching it before it was aired on tv.
Thank you JZ for your intellectually logic views I can think of many people who did a fantastic job as you to prove Michael Jacksons innocents of the LN mockumentary and those pathetic vile liars WR< JS and DR. I love you JZ again thank you you're awesome.
John is brilliant. Totally agree with him about the leaving never happened land shambles.
Loved this. I had the same exact thoughts on how there were no new victims after the release of LN. Hell not even Jordan Chandler or Gavin Arvizo joined this documentary. I believe the award was a political move, it was a way to force the narrative.
Great podcast. I love JOHN'S TAKE on coronavirus . I'm so agree with him .
guys please go watch Square One on Amazon, it is an improved version of it
Michael Jackson was innocent period he was the most beautiful human like Engel truly a king and king of pop king of heaven
How is it that Ziegler stated, "the lawsuit settlement was incredibly dumb," when MJ's counselors and attorneys decided the settlement HAD TO BE DONE? Ziegler talks about
Danny Wu's "SQUARE ONE" like he saw it, but it clearly states the facts of the case.
Also, TheMJCast-Episode 121 at 56.01, MJ's hairdresser, Carol LaMere hears a phone
call Jordie Chandler makes to MJ while having his hair styled by C.M. The young boy
cries while asking MJ's forgiveness for the court case that his dad caused. (A long and extremely interesting story follows). Mr. Arvizo (2005 trial) tells Carol LaMere that his children were taught and primed to lie for $$$$$ and goods. The PARENTS of both boys wanted
$$ just as Wade and his "partner" wants $$. Wade+ will get what they deserve.
R.I.P. Michael~~~
MJ ICON!
Focus on the timeline.
Ziegler has been very spot on about the Michael Jackson accusations.
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MICHAEL JACKSON IS INNOCENT WATCH (SQUARE ONE) ON AMAZON PRIME AND WATCH (LOVING NEVERLAND) ON UA-cam
What is the purpose of quarantine for healthy people? When have healthy people been quarantined in the past?
I want to know interviewer’s skin secrets
Sweden vindicated!
What about the ventilators? Seemed like the most important thing a few months ago.
Adult married man “Goofing in shower” with 12/13 year old boy?👀