Can you even begin to imagine that you think it's just a normal day and that you are going to have dinner with your mom and *this* happens to her? Such unimaginable horror and tragedy.
I mean... I hate to break it to you... but things like this happen everywhere. That's basically the whole reason that literally hundreds of true crime podcasts/ shows/ documentaries/etc exist
Wow he brutally murdered a random woman and was convicted based on a load of physical evidence and he could be out at age 32y? That’s insanity - no way this kid doesn’t do this again if he gets out.
The justice system gets it wrong so many people wrongly accused spend 20 30 years in prison and the ones who obviously done harm spent a few years and that was that
The crazy thing is that he was the kind of person that she strived to help in her career helping kids with similar capacity issues. Such a waste of a good life.
I thought the same thing. I suspect he said something eg 'have you got the time?' to her, she instantly clocked him as special needs due to her training, her instinct to help kicked in & her guard was dropped. Which makes it so much worse.
That’s what I thought too. I saw a different case on another channel yesterday where a teacher who taught at-risk youth was robbed, kidnapped, and lost her life her life to a man working with his daughter, who was herself an at-risk youth. They knew what she did, and the girl was essentially the bait. 15 years old. That’s why I don’t trust kids either.
@@LadyAstarionAncunin Do you happen to have a link or a vic/perp name or channel name, please? It sounds very interesting! Thank you for reading. :-) Peace.
To me it's absolutely sickening that the family members of this monster had the unmitigated gall to try to say that he was wrongfully convicted and the "real"killer was still at large,The police department had a tremendous amount of irrefutable evidence.All of it pointed to this monster who masquerades as a person,it didn't point to the phantom .He did it and that's the end of it and he should NEVER get out of prison.
As much as the family may be wrong about the killer, they have the right to believe in their son/brother/cousin etc. It's not wrong to believe your family are incapable of murder. It's okay to advocate for someone if you believe they are innocent. Again, there's a lot of information to say he was correctly convicted, but the guy is still family to them, and they probably can't wrap their head around it. I'm just not sure they should be shamed for a reasonable reaction. Harassing the victim's family is wrong, though.
@@crimeandcrafting they are victims too Really? I know it's hard for them to accept that their child a cold bloodly murderer the evidence is there. You can accept the reality and grieve silently not campaigning around my son is wrongfully convicted. That shows they have no sympathy towards victims family
@@violethk6011 yes. They absolutely are victims too. I have no idea how I would react if my child killed somebody but it’s not outside the realm of possibility that I or any parent would embrace denial because that’s the only way they can cope. It shouldn’t be hard for people outside of the crime to give them a little grace. It doesn’t show they have no sympathy towards the victim’s family. It shows they are going through their own hell. That’s a very large leap to make
@@crimeandcrafting your statement is evil and so your weak minds. Evidence is strong u can't deny that this monster is guilty yet still alive and breathing. Accept the reality and show some mercy for the victims family. If u can't differentiate such simple things you need to check where you are standing
16-year-olds used to go to war. The same people now claiming 16-year-olds are children will be the same ones buying their daughters of that age birth control. Can't make this shit up.
His evaluations at the school had already revealed he had difficulty with of showing empathy along with his antisocial behavior r 2 hUGE RED flags. It is not surprising he committed such a crime. It's lucky that they caught him bc he would continue to kill- he would become a serial killer. I hav no doubt the court system will c this & NEVER grant him parole. He will never b able to b "rehabilitated". And his family is so wrong to try & cover for him but that seems to b what they do when they hav a "special needs" child, they always become so defensive & protective but this is UNCALLED for in the case of CLEAR MURDER
He will most probably be assessed arfter the 16 years and possibly be placed into a Mental Institution for the rest of his life as he has serious issues
@@LadyAstarionAncunin 16 years is the minimum he will serve before he is allowed to go for parole. He will probably be released when he has done about 18 years.
YES!! And in the United States, it's not even true. Though I am sure there are some lazy, possibly even corrupt police precincts that still try and tell people about this make-believe waiting period. It's incredibly difficult to get law enforcement to get concerned about a Missing Adult. And it's just not right. It's your job!!! GET ON IT! And if it is a hoax or whatever it might be..... Then GREAT!!! They're safe. Now move on. No big deal. Laziness plays an unfortunate part in these cases on the part of law enforcement.
Dear lawyers, I know the only defence for a guilty client is to say "another man" did it, but when you can't say the height, built or what he looked like, you are also saying he doesn't exist...
We live in evil days where we must never place ourselves in any possibly precarious position. We must train ourselves and our children to always be aware of our surroundings. Self defense and training on what to when in danger are crucial. At least here in the US we are able to defend ourselves.
Day to day life is insane for men as well…basically, the grey area will soon be nonexistent and there will be two sides, good and evil. The world is bracing itself for a battle of humanity. I hope everyone is on their A-game and taking the time to PREPare! At minimum, each individual should have a two week supply of food, water, hygiene and medical supplies including medication. Stay safe and remain steadfast, friends. 😊😊😊❤❤❤
@Kimvisible men can go anywhere, anytime, without so much as a second thought about it. Because no one is going to murder them today. Women, however, have to think about what to wear? Don't want to attract the wrong attention. How to get there? Is the road dark or lit up with streetlights. What to drink as you don't want to get drunk. Men will take advantage of that and say she was asking for it. Go ahead with your doomsday prepping. Make sure all the men go with you.
I watch a lot of these true crime videos on here, and it's horrible how I'm seeing more and more cases of women who were walking in safe places alone being murdered in the uk
It's terrifying to imagine one minute you're going for a peaceful walk, then suddenly the next minute your life is violently ended by a complete stranger. Done. So scary!! BTW your vids are at the top of my true crime watch list!! You should have close to 2 million subscribers just like the other 2 chaps from the UK whose vids aren't as slick, thoughtful, and perfectly narrated as yours (IMO).
@@Littlemouse884 Can you imagine? We know times are bad if that should happen. Although. I often think about strict regulations placed on citizens when I see some of these science fiction movies. Or reading books. The future may come to designated times for each to leave their homes.
This is just heartbreaking. The only thing to hold onto can be found in the fact that in every case like this, enormous numbers of people go above and beyond to try and find the missing person. This is a huge message to the evil of this world - you will never win because the good always does and always will overwhelm and crush you.
Tim needs to take legal action against the family of the boy to stop them spreading the lie. I understand that they may just not want to face reality, but it’s abundantly clear that Tim was not the murderer, their son was.
Do they not have freedom of speech across the pond? Everyone is entitled to their own thoughts and beliefs, and perhaps they think their son is actually innocent and the actual m*rderer is still on the loose. I don't recall the family precisely stating they thought Tim was behind it; those were just some rumors in town.
You can pause the cctv footage and tell it's his eyes, pointed little mouth and dead expression. How they can deny that AND the forensic/DNA evidence...beyond comprehension
This was where I live, me and my family and close friends were involved in most of the searches for clues as to where Lindsay had gone. Nothing like this ever happens in our small Lancashire town, so it hit every single one of us quite hard. I remember lying in bed with my sister, late at night watching a movie. Then we heard the sirens, lots and lots of sirens. We both just looked each other and we knew, we knew they’d found her and we knew it probably wasn’t alive. Her body was found in the cemetery directly behind my childhood home, where I’d spent countless hours as a kid running around with my friends and cousins. It still haunts me how close it was, but the one thing I remember from the entire experience is how the community came together entirely to try and bring her home. R.I.P Lindsay, your name will be remembered here forever and I’m sorry we were too late 💚🌹 (I actually went to school with the killers family, which makes it even closer to home. I knew this kid.)
Wait, so his excuse was, "I didn't kill her, but someone who I've never met just came to me and asked me to get rid of her body and said he'd pay me after, and even though I had no reason to trust him, I never even asked any questions and just did it?" Did he really think anyone was gonna buy this BS? What makes it kinda funny is that he made the whole thing up, and yet he said the guy never paid him, so he got ripped off in his own made up story lol
Why he would even move a dead body -- even if that story were true -- for money is absolutely mind-boggling. I would want nothing to do with a dead body at that age... or ever!!!
His IQ was 60, well below the average, and that statement was definitely not written by him. Just playing devil's advocate here, but remember what happened with Brendan Dassey, Steven Avery's nephew? He has a low IQ too, and he was bullied, gas lighted, and lied to, in order to gain a confession. While I have no doubt that this isn't what happened in this case, there does need to be tighter controls around young offenders, who have mental disorders. A parent, guardian, advocate, or lawyer, should be present at all times.
This killer was not that quiet and his iq didn't stop him making up this ridiculous story, I really hope he never sees the light of day, yet again your compassion and clarity is second to none. Rip Lyndssey
A joke of a story, a bad joke. So bad one dismisses it without even laughing! No matter their ages, criminals seem to come up with a lot of dumbass stories involving imaginary, hooded figures who are leaving them money! Conveniently right by a body
Someone needs to sit the Price family down and explain to them like they're 5-year-olds what DNA is and why it constitutes damning evidence against their morally bankrupt son. 16 years in prison. He'll be in his early thirties when he's released. That's fvcking scary. TC, you did a great job with this case (as always). Also, that was one of the smoothest adverts I've ever seen on UA-cam. It interested me enough to check and see if Gettysburg is considered a dark destination. Shocked me to learn that it is. To me, it's hallowed ground, and not a site to indulge morbid curiousity. I think this is a book worth reading, because it not only explores the sites visited, but the "worrying trend," as the author describes it, that leads tourists to _want_ to visit such sites.
I didn't personally know Lindsay but this happened around 7-8 miles from where I live, I think everyone were keeping their fingers crossed 🤞 for a happy ending which sadly wasn't to be 💔 .
I’m going to go out on a limb here…but I’m going to assume Rocky didn’t write or say that statement about the “male he doesn’t know”. It wasn’t about his chickens, so… EDIT: How can anyone think he was innocent? He was the ONLY person seen on cameras with the trash can, and the only person seen going back and forth to where she was found. Plus, DNA doesn’t lie like he does. Prayers to Lindsay’s family and friends.
Thought that too. It maybe suggests that people with a bit more IQ tend to over-think it, i.e. try to second-guess how they ought to be acting if they had nothing to hide.
I feel bad to say "I'm happy for the upload." As sad and maddening as these cases are, again you tell them so perfectly. 😍👏👍 RIP Angel 🕊🌹❤️🩹 Prayers for the families. How sad. Great job again. ❤ God bless 👑🙏🕊🩵
There's a lot of f****** cop out of our society and most of the atrocities that have occurred are due to f****** government and cops and every. F****** power in between but do people point that out No because americans are f****** stupid and asleep So f****** comfortable that it's pathetic nobody gives a f*** about anybody about themselves especially people in power and they just let the s*** slide when we should be buying the system to the fucking ground.
Cops murdering and covering for one another government cover ups this country is as corrupt as hell itself and if people don't realize it especially all you Bible thumpers then your all fools and don't deserve to be saved for egnoring all the true evil in the world and all their power not just one useless peace of human shit when there's people running this shit getting away with murder every day and saying it's for grater good but really it's for government revenue and population control.
Sometimes it causes it, sometimes it doesn't, just use common sense on a case by case basis. If you make a blanket statement like that, it means you're incapable of listening to facts & deciding based on what you learn.
What really gives me pause is that with an IQ of 65 and barely verbal, he should not have know you say “no comment” to the police for hours or come up with that story - which he _clearly_ didn’t write himself. Either he really screwed with everyone or his family has instructed him very carefully and know exactly what he did.
The dog walker must be absolutely scarred for life. Also, the woman who gave a statement that got out of there unharmed.. INCREDIBLY fortunate. Not so fortunate for Lindsay though.. He must have been trying to "pluck up the courage" to do it, hence being startled. But he knew he missed his opportunity & decided not to bottle it for the next woman he saw.. That next woman, was Lindsay. (How easily it could have been the other way around. That must stay with her daily).
Thanks Truly Criminal, you always bring your own uniqueness to each drama. I always look forward to your channel. RIP Lindsay, may the Angels give you wings to fly.
In 20 years there is going to be another true crime show talking about him, and how he spent 15 years in prison for murder before and was let out, and reoffended.
I am so amazed by the amount of support that came out to help search for Lyndsey! Wow. Incredible! Just shows how amazing of a person she was & how great that community is! 💯❤ I'm so curious about something. Does anyone happen to know, since Lyndsey worked with children with special needs, did she ever happen to help Rocky by chance? I was just wondering if there was a chance that they knew each other. Obviously, I know they said he had attempted to go after a woman right before her, but I was just like, what are the chances that they may know each other? Also, what a coincidence that she works in that area of expertise. You know? Just wondering. 🤷🏼♀️ Just a thought.
Wow a sponsor, first time I have seen you have a sponsor, im sure you have probably had them before but this is my first time seeing, so happy for you, and such a cool fitting sponsor, thats awesome. You are such a great channel.
Fantastic job as always.. really appreciate the work you put into these, your content is always consistently well done, all around.. and it’s nice to hear about cases that haven’t been covered excessively to the point of compounding errors and such.. other stories deserve to be told, thank you..
I love Truly Criminal upload days, I look forward to it all week. As for the case, I don't doubt for a second that he killed Lindsay, there is just simply no evidence of a third party involved. While I get that no parent wants to believe that their child could do such evil things burying their heads in the sand isn't going to make it all go away. I think many parents believe that if their child commits a heinous crime such as this and at only 16 is a direct reflection on their parenting so instead of themselves acknowledging that their son did this they are choosing the "innocent, wrongly convicted" path, out of shame or embarrassment, either way, I hope they can one day accept that all the evidence proves his guilty. R.I.P Lindsay 🕊 ♥️
Price doesn’t sound as dense as his lawyers suggest, he sounds very cunning and focussed, trying hard to cover his evil , his complex and persistent efforts in concealing after his evil acts Not mad , bad
This is by far the best crime channel. The way u two tell the stories with respect to the victims and their families٫ much respect to u ladies for doing so. God bless u ladies!!!
I live in the next town to Accrington we all went over searching for her X god bless Lyndsay she taught at a school nr to me all the children where utterly heartbroken 💔
His parents believe he is innocent, but were the ones who turned him into the police. Therefore they must’ve had some idea how violent etc he could be. 🇦🇺
Probably know the ins and outs of the system very well, knew he was bang to rights and sent him in with what they considered “a plausible” story. 5 kids and ones called rocky marciano paints a picture imo
@@Bee-ly4gx they know he’s guilty and knew he was bang to rights. Did what gave him the best chance of a lighter sentence or probably naive enough to think he might get away with it. Sent him in with a story and taught him when to not speak. The story shows their intelligence.
That was slack and negligent of the police not to check the wheelie bin as soon as it was reported. They make mistakes when they assume........and lose time and clues and suspects.
I hate it when a stranger in a mask comes up to me and asks me to get rid of a corpse, before disappearing back into the shadows again. And please do not call your child Rocky Marciano. The child will only underperform compared to expectations or be made fun of.
The family of the offender should be held responsible. If the boy was to be supervised, they failed. They helped him to come up with the false information about a man that fits most of the men in the country and then resorted to slander to protect their child.
I've very recently gotten to the end of my backlog of your content since I subscribed and now eagerly await an upload on Saturday 😊 your channel is great and you do an amazing job. All the best for the future 🎊🎊
The woman who tells the story of this horrific crime is absolutely BRILLIANT!!! I'm not surprised she has sooooo many followers! As she is sooooo respectful + extremely caring about the whole crime + the families who are suffering! Thank you for telling Lindsey story! Even though I'm shocked + sadden what happened to this beautiful lady. It's a story that had to be told! 🙏
counting down the days for truly criminal to bring another documentary out. Once again they delivered fantastic put together again coffee house crime long way to go and catch these girls up.
The level of denial about this kid by his family is EXACTLY why he was able to do it. I'm guessing they were completely hands off and wishy washy about him and his condition.
@@HighLordBlazeReborn nobody called you anything. You admitted to guessing, and now that you have been called out for doing so you are whining about it.
I think his parents came up with the idea to blame someone else - pay someone who calls the cops anonymously, saying "My neighbor has a cousin who lives next to a guy who overheard the real perp boasting about being the murderer"... all you need is one juror being doubtful.
Actually juries are unusually competent actually. In the face of evidence they almost always charge their views and follow where facts lead. This idea of one idiot juror swinging a verdict has little resemblance to reality.
Maybe one day, women will be able to go for a walk in broad daylight in their own neighbourhood without having to Wolverine their door keys between their fingers first. I won't hold my breath though.
I don't know why people keep saying this. If you are attacked and you wound the assailant with your key the most likely outcome will be to enrage him and make the attack more brutal.
Thought the same... I guess it helped that the product was a really good fit for the channel. No-one minds watching an advert for something that they're genuinely interested in.
On the other hand, I pay extra to YT every month to have zero ads. When the channel sneaks them into their upload I get frustrated and FF through them.
Once you've brutally murdered someone I really don't think that not having a previous criminal background matters or should be taken into consideration. It's like, oh, this person was a modal citizen before they revealed themselves to be a total psychopath so they should get less time?? And this kid was 16 so he really hadn't had much time to accumulate much of a criminal history. Also, his parents actually think that their son couldn't hurt anyone and is just an innocent boy but he was perfectly okay with disposing of a body for a stranger for money. 🤔
I think it should be law, that on any and everyone's 18th birthday, they should be required to give DNA and fingerprints. Not only could help with identification of a victim, it could help with identification of the perp.
Really? You think that governments can be trusted with that do you? They can't even avoid losing USB drives and laptops. Aside from that, the state belongs to us, not us to the state. The government get out of my life and stay out.
Plenty of killers have low IQs it doesn't stop them from planning and carrying out a murder. If another man was involved it stands to reason that mans dna would also be detectible on Lindsay, her clothes, the bag, the bin, etc. I can understand his family not wanting to believe he did it but denying the evidence is illogical. It's scary that he could get out of prison at all much less in like 12 - 16 years. He'd only be in his early 30s at the oldest.
How can someone even be allowed in public that has no emotions and cannot contemplate their own actions ? I don’t care if he’s innocent and hasn’t done anything yet. Someone with that mental capacity is never safe in public. And he’s clearly capable of some rational thinking to say no comment to every question he knows what he’s doing
Another horrendous prison sentence for a horrendous crime. I know he was 16 years old when he committed the offence, but who can honestly say that he will change, over time. Sixteen years really is truly criminal😢 Poor Lyndsey. Just awful. So sorry for her family who will be the ones serving a life sentence..
No, a life sentence means that your are on licence from the state for life and it has a minimum tariff of fifteen years. It has never meant a certain amount of time in prison, nor had it ever meant life behind bars.
Such a sad story,could have been any of us ladies just taking a walk 😓💔 Sending love to her friend family🙏 Absolutely love your channel...your hard work definitely shows through and gives the victims voice❤
Hooray!!! I’ve been waiting all week for this notification like Pavlov’s dog! 😅 thank you guys… I can’t wait to start it. Here we go! Have a great week everyone! ❤☀️
Most people wouldn't really suspect anything when it comes to wheely bins. The amount of people laying/climbing into them when drunk aswell is ridiculous
About 30 years ago a teenager murdered a young Japanese tourist in Cairns. He too carried the body through town in a wheelie bin. A frienda police officer, pulled over, spoke to him and looked in the bin but he had loaded the bin with rubbish on top of the body she didn’t see the poor victim.. so off he went. It was another week before the body was found. All awfully sad. It took my cop friend a long time to get over the incident.
What a horrible, senseless murder of this poor woman. My heart goes out to her children. 16! How can a 16 yr old do this.? On another note, you & your sister( is that correct?), your narrative voices are beyond the best! I am right there, every step of the way. You both show such respect and grace to the victims and the victims families while not glamorizing the killer(s) and your videos are some of the best researched and you don't use stock photos but actual videos, 911 calls and photos of the actual people. Thank you for your care and work you put into these. I wait for your uploads and 9 xs out of 10, I put your Playlist on when I go to sleep and listen to your channel almost every night! My favorite one by far!!❤❤❤
His family needs to be quiet & BFFR!! Let Lindsay rest & her family grieve in peace. 16 years is already a slap in the face. Hopefully they deny his parole every time he goes up for it.
R.I.P. Lindsay Birbeck. 😔🙏 Why did law enforcement essentially disregard such a crucial piece of DNA evidence by not testing the blue recycling bin for ANY DNA such as fingerprints, hair follicles, etc to determine if Lindsay Birbeck's DNA or perpetrator's DNA was on the bin handle or interior of the bin?? A random recycling bin sitting in a wooded region that isn't in proximity to a recycling plant or scrap yard, businesses where you typically see recycling bins should've set off alarm bells for law enforcement to do more investigative follow up for DNA testing & not just ignore it. Why did law enforcement not review additional CCTV footage until AFTER Lindsay Birbeck was found? Lindsay Birbeck was last seen alive on CCTV, so law enforcement failed Lindsay Birbeck by not trying to scour through all of the available CCTV footage to see what else / who else was on the CCTV footage AND also refusing to test the recycling bin from the very beginning.
Was I the only one who found it interesting they went from being too concerned to release the CCTV at first to protect him to then releasing it and naming him a murder suspect. Quite a jump. I would've thought "person of interest" would've been used, it would still result in his identification.
Poor lady, this is horrendous, I can't even begin to imagine the grief & anger her family must feel.
Can you even begin to imagine that you think it's just a normal day and that you are going to have dinner with your mom and *this* happens to her? Such unimaginable horror and tragedy.
Exactly. I’m sick just thinking about it.
It’s mind blowing…this happened not far from me too…it’s a harsh reminder that we never know what depraved individuals we’re sharing space with
It’s utterly horrifying. She was just going for a walk 😓
It's sometimes hard to realize and sad but every day is somebody's last day alive.
I got goosebumps all over my body reading your comment, it's absolutely horrifying just to think about it
This broke our community.
Things like this don’t happen around here. It’s absolute madness.
We will never forget her.
Well sadly thats not really true, there have been quite a few murders around here lately over the last few years.
Had a walk round the coppice today, it’s a vast area with so many little man made paths that veer off the main walkway
But it does and it did...
So sorry to hear this.
I mean... I hate to break it to you... but things like this happen everywhere. That's basically the whole reason that literally hundreds of true crime podcasts/ shows/ documentaries/etc exist
Wow he brutally murdered a random woman and was convicted based on a load of physical evidence and he could be out at age 32y? That’s insanity - no way this kid doesn’t do this again if he gets out.
happened in canada, he got out in 2 years - chopped off a guy's head on a bus - pleading "insanity"
The justice system gets it wrong so many people wrongly accused spend 20 30 years in prison and the ones who obviously done harm spent a few years and that was that
@@janetch7384 haha
He is a gypsy, they are never known for their intellect…
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The crazy thing is that he was the kind of person that she strived to help in her career helping kids with similar capacity issues. Such a waste of a good life.
I thought the same thing. I suspect he said something eg 'have you got the time?' to her, she instantly clocked him as special needs due to her training, her instinct to help kicked in & her guard was dropped. Which makes it so much worse.
That’s what I thought too. I saw a different case on another channel yesterday where a teacher who taught at-risk youth was robbed, kidnapped, and lost her life her life to a man working with his daughter, who was herself an at-risk youth. They knew what she did, and the girl was essentially the bait. 15 years old.
That’s why I don’t trust kids either.
@@LadyAstarionAncunin Do you happen to have a link or a vic/perp name or channel name, please? It sounds very interesting! Thank you for reading. :-)
Peace.
@@LadyAstarionAncuninwhat's case was that?
@@LadyAstarionAncunin can you provide more information about this case ?
16 years jail time is appalling. The parents of the offender are delusional 😞. RIP Lindsay 🕊️
To me it's absolutely sickening that the family members of this monster had the unmitigated gall to try to say that he was wrongfully convicted and the "real"killer was still at large,The police department had a tremendous amount of irrefutable evidence.All of it pointed to this monster who masquerades as a person,it didn't point to the phantom .He did it and that's the end of it and he should NEVER get out of prison.
As much as the family may be wrong about the killer, they have the right to believe in their son/brother/cousin etc. It's not wrong to believe your family are incapable of murder. It's okay to advocate for someone if you believe they are innocent. Again, there's a lot of information to say he was correctly convicted, but the guy is still family to them, and they probably can't wrap their head around it. I'm just not sure they should be shamed for a reasonable reaction.
Harassing the victim's family is wrong, though.
You have to remember that they are victims too
@@crimeandcrafting they are victims too Really? I know it's hard for them to accept that their child a cold bloodly murderer the evidence is there. You can accept the reality and grieve silently not campaigning around my son is wrongfully convicted. That shows they have no sympathy towards victims family
@@violethk6011 yes. They absolutely are victims too. I have no idea how I would react if my child killed somebody but it’s not outside the realm of possibility that I or any parent would embrace denial because that’s the only way they can cope.
It shouldn’t be hard for people outside of the crime to give them a little grace.
It doesn’t show they have no sympathy towards the victim’s family. It shows they are going through their own hell. That’s a very large leap to make
@@crimeandcrafting your statement is evil and so your weak minds. Evidence is strong u can't deny that this monster is guilty yet still alive and breathing. Accept the reality and show some mercy for the victims family. If u can't differentiate such simple things you need to check where you are standing
It is absolutely chilling that a 16 year old did this 💔
Apparently evil knows no age
Yes, but look at all of these high school shooters; they're right about the same age.
Eleven to seventeen has become a base age for murderers . The sentence needs to be the same as with adults..
16-year-olds used to go to war. The same people now claiming 16-year-olds are children will be the same ones buying their daughters of that age birth control. Can't make this shit up.
His evaluations at the school had already revealed he had difficulty with of showing empathy along with his antisocial behavior r 2 hUGE RED flags. It is not surprising he committed such a crime. It's lucky that they caught him bc he would continue to kill- he would become a serial killer. I hav no doubt the court system will c this & NEVER grant him parole. He will never b able to b "rehabilitated". And his family is so wrong to try & cover for him but that seems to b what they do when they hav a "special needs" child, they always become so defensive & protective but this is UNCALLED for in the case of CLEAR MURDER
Absolutely heartbreaking! And 16 years is NOT enough! Thanks for covering this case with such compassion for the victims!
He will most probably be assessed arfter the 16 years and possibly be placed into a Mental Institution for the rest of his life as he has serious issues
And you’d best believe he’ll likely not even serve that much. The U.K. is super light on violent criminals.
@@LadyAstarionAncunin 16 years is the minimum he will serve before he is allowed to go for parole.
He will probably be released when he has done about 18 years.
I appreciate the UK police not pulling the “wait three days to report someone missing” bs… honestly surprised me.
Seriously!!! Great observation
But they couldn't bother to look inside a conspicuously placed trash bin while a woman was missing.
YES!! And in the United States, it's not even true.
Though I am sure there are some lazy, possibly even corrupt police precincts that still try and tell people about this make-believe waiting period.
It's incredibly difficult to get law enforcement to get concerned about a Missing Adult. And it's just not right. It's your job!!! GET ON IT! And if it is a hoax or whatever it might be..... Then GREAT!!! They're safe. Now move on.
No big deal. Laziness plays an unfortunate part in these cases on the part of law enforcement.
Here in London, the police would probably not consider someone a missing person until their body is found.
Same. It was nice to hear for a change.
Ur voice is everything when telling the stories of the victims. It gives it textures unlike other channels.
Isn't her voice just everything @Heather C.!?!?! I still don't know the sisters names! If anyone can tell their names, I'd be most grateful 🙏
Totally agree. She should be doing audio books
@@ann-sylvianalule305 Alice and Mia.
@@loveforeignaccents thank you very much 😊
@@ann-sylvianalule305 👍
Dear lawyers, I know the only defence for a guilty client is to say "another man" did it, but when you can't say the height, built or what he looked like, you are also saying he doesn't exist...
I'm sure every lawyer is reading this and taking note
@@yoteonthetoobslmao right 😂
It's a horrible, horrible world when a woman can't go for a walk in the woods, on a beach in solitude without the fear that they might be murdered.
We live in evil days where we must never place ourselves in any possibly precarious position. We must train ourselves and our children to always be aware of our surroundings. Self defense and training on what to when in danger are crucial. At least here in the US we are able to defend ourselves.
Day to day life is insane for men as well…basically, the grey area will soon be nonexistent and there will be two sides, good and evil. The world is bracing itself for a battle of humanity. I hope everyone is on their A-game and taking the time to PREPare!
At minimum, each individual should have a two week supply of food, water, hygiene and medical supplies including medication.
Stay safe and remain steadfast, friends. 😊😊😊❤❤❤
@Kimvisible men can go anywhere, anytime, without so much as a second thought about it. Because no one is going to murder them today. Women, however, have to think about what to wear? Don't want to attract the wrong attention. How to get there? Is the road dark or lit up with streetlights. What to drink as you don't want to get drunk. Men will take advantage of that and say she was asking for it.
Go ahead with your doomsday prepping. Make sure all the men go with you.
I watch a lot of these true crime videos on here, and it's horrible how I'm seeing more and more cases of women who were walking in safe places alone being murdered in the uk
I’m a teacher and I just find it shocking that this level of depravity was committed by a teenager.
It's terrifying to imagine one minute you're going for a peaceful walk, then suddenly the next minute your life is violently ended by a complete stranger. Done. So scary!!
BTW your vids are at the top of my true crime watch list!! You should have close to 2 million subscribers just like the other 2 chaps from the UK whose vids aren't as slick, thoughtful, and perfectly narrated as yours (IMO).
We need full body armor and arsenal to go shopping!
@@tessaducek5601 men need curfews put on them so people can be safe when out in public
@@Littlemouse884 Can you imagine? We know times are bad if that should happen. Although. I often think about strict regulations placed on citizens when I see some of these science fiction movies. Or reading books.
The future may come to designated times for each to leave their homes.
This is just heartbreaking. The only thing to hold onto can be found in the fact that in every case like this, enormous numbers of people go above and beyond to try and find the missing person. This is a huge message to the evil of this world - you will never win because the good always does and always will overwhelm and crush you.
Well said and absolutely true. @Abztract Boxing And Stuff.
Tim needs to take legal action against the family of the boy to stop them spreading the lie. I understand that they may just not want to face reality, but it’s abundantly clear that Tim was not the murderer, their son was.
Right like… he’s on film pulling the trashcan.
The boy's family haven't accused Tim.
This comment won't be popular with everyone but imo these types of murderers should be put down .
Simple as !
Do they not have freedom of speech across the pond? Everyone is entitled to their own thoughts and beliefs, and perhaps they think their son is actually innocent and the actual m*rderer is still on the loose. I don't recall the family precisely stating they thought Tim was behind it; those were just some rumors in town.
You can pause the cctv footage and tell it's his eyes, pointed little mouth and dead expression. How they can deny that AND the forensic/DNA evidence...beyond comprehension
Thank you for your compassion and respect towards the victims and their families. Much appreciated 🇨🇦
This was where I live, me and my family and close friends were involved in most of the searches for clues as to where Lindsay had gone. Nothing like this ever happens in our small Lancashire town, so it hit every single one of us quite hard. I remember lying in bed with my sister, late at night watching a movie. Then we heard the sirens, lots and lots of sirens. We both just looked each other and we knew, we knew they’d found her and we knew it probably wasn’t alive.
Her body was found in the cemetery directly behind my childhood home, where I’d spent countless hours as a kid running around with my friends and cousins. It still haunts me how close it was, but the one thing I remember from the entire experience is how the community came together entirely to try and bring her home.
R.I.P Lindsay, your name will be remembered here forever and I’m sorry we were too late 💚🌹
(I actually went to school with the killers family, which makes it even closer to home. I knew this kid.)
Wait, so his excuse was, "I didn't kill her, but someone who I've never met just came to me and asked me to get rid of her body and said he'd pay me after, and even though I had no reason to trust him, I never even asked any questions and just did it?" Did he really think anyone was gonna buy this BS? What makes it kinda funny is that he made the whole thing up, and yet he said the guy never paid him, so he got ripped off in his own made up story lol
Why he would even move a dead body -- even if that story were true -- for money is absolutely mind-boggling. I would want nothing to do with a dead body at that age... or ever!!!
It’s plausible and provides reasonable doubt!
His IQ was 60, well below the average, and that statement was definitely not written by him. Just playing devil's advocate here, but remember what happened with Brendan Dassey, Steven Avery's nephew? He has a low IQ too, and he was bullied, gas lighted, and lied to, in order to gain a confession. While I have no doubt that this isn't what happened in this case, there does need to be tighter controls around young offenders, who have mental disorders. A parent, guardian, advocate, or lawyer, should be present at all times.
HE DIDN'T MAKE IT UP!!!
His sorry @ss attorney did.
@@sheilaolson5868 🤨
This killer was not that quiet and his iq didn't stop him making up this ridiculous story, I really hope he never sees the light of day, yet again your compassion and clarity is second to none. Rip Lyndssey
Exactly my thoughts
A joke of a story, a bad joke. So bad one dismisses it without even laughing! No matter their ages, criminals seem to come up with a lot of dumbass stories involving imaginary, hooded figures who are leaving them money! Conveniently right by a body
@@KarenanneT o
Most likely due to his age he will be given a second chance.
Idk who lyndssey is but Lindsay is the lady in the story who died
Someone needs to sit the Price family down and explain to them like they're 5-year-olds what DNA is and why it constitutes damning evidence against their morally bankrupt son. 16 years in prison. He'll be in his early thirties when he's released. That's fvcking scary.
TC, you did a great job with this case (as always). Also, that was one of the smoothest adverts I've ever seen on UA-cam. It interested me enough to check and see if Gettysburg is considered a dark destination. Shocked me to learn that it is. To me, it's hallowed ground, and not a site to indulge morbid curiousity. I think this is a book worth reading, because it not only explores the sites visited, but the "worrying trend," as the author describes it, that leads tourists to _want_ to visit such sites.
His story (while stupid) is compatible with the DNA evidence, isn't it?
The local community should appeal the sentence, as it's far too lenient. That stupid little pleb should be serving at least 30 years.
That's *if* he is released after 16 years... or at all. He got a life sentence.
@@Erebus.666. The community cannot appeal his sentence.
@@eadweard. You're right. I wonder who fed him that story of being paid to move a body. I don't think he's clever enough to think it up on his own.
I didn't personally know Lindsay but this happened around 7-8 miles from where I live, I think everyone were keeping their fingers crossed 🤞 for a happy ending which sadly wasn't to be 💔 .
I’m going to go out on a limb here…but I’m going to assume Rocky didn’t write or say that statement about the “male he doesn’t know”. It wasn’t about his chickens, so…
EDIT: How can anyone think he was innocent? He was the ONLY person seen on cameras with the trash can, and the only person seen going back and forth to where she was found. Plus, DNA doesn’t lie like he does. Prayers to Lindsay’s family and friends.
The kid has the brains to say no comment to all questions! Smarter than a lot of guys!
Thought that too. It maybe suggests that people with a bit more IQ tend to over-think it, i.e. try to second-guess how they ought to be acting if they had nothing to hide.
That or he was instructed well.
They all do that in the UK. Not sure why Americans are so chatty with the cops. They always act like think they are obligated to talk to them.
and the brains to invent some story about a guy paying him to take away the body - and he thinks that's ok to do that????
His parents called him rocky marciano, I fancy he’s been taught the particulars of being arrested by a family that knows them.
Wow! The parents of the murderer are in total denial. I guess no parent wants to face the reality that they raised a killer.
Oh the poor love, monsters walk amongst us, truly horrific 😢. RIP ❤beautiful lady,fly high with your Angels ❤ Healing thoughts to her loving family❤💔
One of the best UA-cam channels ever.. lemme say, YOU GO GIRLS!!
I second that.
The narrator is so good at her job. Always makes these tragic stories so more gripping. Big respect ❤
I feel bad to say "I'm happy for the upload." As sad and maddening as these cases are, again you tell them so perfectly. 😍👏👍 RIP Angel 🕊🌹❤️🩹
Prayers for the families. How sad.
Great job again. ❤
God bless 👑🙏🕊🩵
Autism and having a low IQ, bad childhood among other things doesn’t excuse killing an innocent person, I think it’s a cop out when people do that.
There's a lot of f****** cop out of our society and most of the atrocities that have occurred are due to f****** government and cops and every. F****** power in between but do people point that out No because americans are f****** stupid and asleep So f****** comfortable that it's pathetic nobody gives a f*** about anybody about themselves especially people in power and they just let the s*** slide when we should be buying the system to the fucking ground.
Cops murdering and covering for one another government cover ups this country is as corrupt as hell itself and if people don't realize it especially all you Bible thumpers then your all fools and don't deserve to be saved for egnoring all the true evil in the world and all their power not just one useless peace of human shit when there's people running this shit getting away with murder every day and saying it's for grater good but really it's for government revenue and population control.
Sometimes it causes it, sometimes it doesn't, just use common sense on a case by case basis. If you make a blanket statement like that, it means you're incapable of listening to facts & deciding based on what you learn.
Nothing excuses killing. But there are things that help explain what drove people do to become murders.
He was not autistic, just low IQ.
Leaving the house, you do not know what awaits you, or rather, who is waiting, what kind of predator you can meet. It's very scary...
That's why you stay strapped
What a terrible loss of someone so lovely. Rest in peace dear Lindsay😘❤🕊🥀
The voice behind all of these videos is SIMPLY AMAZING! Such a soothing voice behind these stories..!
What really gives me pause is that with an IQ of 65 and barely verbal, he should not have know you say “no comment” to the police for hours or come up with that story - which he _clearly_ didn’t write himself. Either he really screwed with everyone or his family has instructed him very carefully and know exactly what he did.
Such a sad story. May the famiily be able to move on. God bless them.
I LOVE ❤ this ladies voice. I watch this videos to know the stories but mostly to listen to her voice 😊😅 thank you for sharing these stories.
The dog walker must be absolutely scarred for life. Also, the woman who gave a statement that got out of there unharmed.. INCREDIBLY fortunate. Not so fortunate for Lindsay though..
He must have been trying to "pluck up the courage" to do it, hence being startled. But he knew he missed his opportunity & decided not to bottle it for the next woman he saw..
That next woman, was Lindsay. (How easily it could have been the other way around. That must stay with her daily).
Thanks Truly Criminal, you always bring your own uniqueness to each drama. I always look forward to your channel. RIP Lindsay, may the Angels give you wings to fly.
Rocky’s parents are in full-out denial mode. “He didn’t have the mental capacity to murder someone”. The DNA and other evidence proves otherwise.
In 20 years there is going to be another true crime show talking about him, and how he spent 15 years in prison for murder before and was let out, and reoffended.
The narrators voice is one of the best parts of this channel
This kid wasn’t that stupid. 🤷♀️ RIP Lindsay 🌹
An IQ of 65 literally means stupid.
I am so amazed by the amount of support that came out to help search for Lyndsey! Wow. Incredible! Just shows how amazing of a person she was & how great that community is! 💯❤
I'm so curious about something. Does anyone happen to know, since Lyndsey worked with children with special needs, did she ever happen to help Rocky by chance? I was just wondering if there was a chance that they knew each other.
Obviously, I know they said he had attempted to go after a woman right before her, but I was just like, what are the chances that they may know each other? Also, what a coincidence that she works in that area of expertise. You know? Just wondering. 🤷🏼♀️ Just a thought.
He’s got THE DEFINITION of dead eyes. His mug shot made me physically shiver‼️
Wow a sponsor, first time I have seen you have a sponsor, im sure you have probably had them before but this is my first time seeing, so happy for you, and such a cool fitting sponsor, thats awesome. You are such a great channel.
That was fantastically made. You had my attention throughout the documentary. Great job🌸
Fantastic job as always.. really appreciate the work you put into these, your content is always consistently well done, all around.. and it’s nice to hear about cases that haven’t been covered excessively to the point of compounding errors and such.. other stories deserve to be told, thank you..
I love Truly Criminal upload days, I look forward to it all week.
As for the case, I don't doubt for a second that he killed Lindsay, there is just simply no evidence of a third party involved.
While I get that no parent wants to believe that their child could do such evil things burying their heads in the sand isn't going to make it all go away.
I think many parents believe that if their child commits a heinous crime such as this and at only 16 is a direct reflection on their parenting so instead of themselves acknowledging that their son did this they are choosing the "innocent, wrongly convicted" path, out of shame or embarrassment, either way, I hope they can one day accept that all the evidence proves his guilty.
R.I.P Lindsay 🕊 ♥️
Price doesn’t sound as dense as his lawyers suggest, he sounds very cunning and focussed, trying hard to cover his evil , his complex and persistent efforts in concealing after his evil acts
Not mad , bad
Yep, you got that right. And how easy is to fake a low IQ test.
This is by far the best crime channel. The way u two tell the stories with respect to the victims and their families٫ much respect to u ladies for doing so. God bless u ladies!!!
How does the perpetrators family still think he is innocent? The DNA and CCTV evidence is overwhelming.
I live in the next town to Accrington we all went over searching for her X god bless Lyndsay she taught at a school nr to me all the children where utterly heartbroken 💔
That’s going to be one dangerous individual on our streets in 16 years time ☹️ poor lady and her family.
He won't even be in there for 16 years. No doubt he will only serve 8.
His parents believe he is innocent, but were the ones who turned him into the police. Therefore they must’ve had some idea how violent etc he could be. 🇦🇺
Probably know the ins and outs of the system very well, knew he was bang to rights and sent him in with what they considered “a plausible” story.
5 kids and ones called rocky marciano paints a picture imo
Do you think the parents believe he is innocent or that they just don’t care?
@@Bee-ly4gx they know he’s guilty and knew he was bang to rights. Did what gave him the best chance of a lighter sentence or probably naive enough to think he might get away with it. Sent him in with a story and taught him when to not speak. The story shows their intelligence.
@@Ramjet164 yes, I think you are correct.
Good point. I forgot that they initially turned him in.
This was shocking. Right on our doorstep. RIP LB x
Edited: it’s weird when the UA-cam video is about your town and the people you knew.
Isn’t it just. I know the area well.
That was slack and negligent of the police not to check the wheelie bin as soon as it was reported. They make mistakes when they assume........and lose time and clues and suspects.
I hate it when a stranger in a mask comes up to me and asks me to get rid of a corpse, before disappearing back into the shadows again. And please do not call your child Rocky Marciano. The child will only underperform compared to expectations or be made fun of.
I know what you mean, happens all the time doesn’t it. Maybe he thought the police had a similar IQ to him.
The family of the offender should be held responsible. If the boy was to be supervised, they failed. They helped him to come up with the false information about a man that fits most of the men in the country and then resorted to slander to protect their child.
I've very recently gotten to the end of my backlog of your content since I subscribed and now eagerly await an upload on Saturday 😊 your channel is great and you do an amazing job. All the best for the future 🎊🎊
Lol if you're like me, I watch these episodes over and over and over! They are truly great, aren't they?!!
Yes they certainly are! I can't get enough
Have you checked out redrum ch.?
Another great narration, I think they got the right person for this crime. Thank you TC
If my disabled son committed a crime like this, I'd hand him in myself . No excuses for being evil, disabilities or not, murder is murder.
It's scary to think that if he gets released after 16 years he might kill again.
Rip Lindsay 💐
It’s very scary when I live close by it really brings it home.
He probably would kill again, he has no empathy,he has all the psychopathic traits
He will
The woman who tells the story of this horrific crime is absolutely BRILLIANT!!! I'm not surprised she has sooooo many followers! As she is sooooo respectful + extremely caring about the whole crime + the families who are suffering! Thank you for telling Lindsey story! Even though I'm shocked + sadden what happened to this beautiful lady. It's a story that had to be told! 🙏
counting down the days for truly criminal to bring another documentary out. Once again they delivered fantastic put together again
coffee house crime long way to go and catch these girls up.
Truly criminal and That Chapter are the best 👌
So sad story 😢 Your voice is so calm 💕
Thank you for sharing 😥
The level of denial about this kid by his family is EXACTLY why he was able to do it. I'm guessing they were completely hands off and wishy washy about him and his condition.
Great detective work there, because guessing makes far more sense than denial.
@@gretchengoestonebraska unfortunately, handing out the ability to perform basic reasoning isn't within my power.
@@HighLordBlazeReborn so you just guessed instead?
@@gretchengoestonebraska I was referring to you trying to excuse the parents by calling me an idiot.
@@HighLordBlazeReborn nobody called you anything. You admitted to guessing, and now that you have been called out for doing so you are whining about it.
First time I’ve heard of this case! Thanks for such an informative video.
You can’t dispute science. DNA is DNA.
Tautological drivel.
Of course you can. That's what science literally is, smart people disputing other smart people in order to get the best answers.
How deranged does his family need to be to still believe he is innocent? The evidence is overwhelming.
These stories here on this channel, while undeniably sad, are very well told. 👍
I think his parents came up with the idea to blame someone else - pay someone who calls the cops anonymously, saying "My neighbor has a cousin who lives next to a guy who overheard the real perp boasting about being the murderer"...
all you need is one juror being doubtful.
Actually juries are unusually competent actually. In the face of evidence they almost always charge their views and follow where facts lead. This idea of one idiot juror swinging a verdict has little resemblance to reality.
Lifes all about random encounters, which are all basically chance; chance that we live chance that we die the randomness is sometimes overwhelming..
Maybe one day, women will be able to go for a walk in broad daylight in their own neighbourhood without having to Wolverine their door keys between their fingers first.
I won't hold my breath though.
I don't know why people keep saying this. If you are attacked and you wound the assailant with your key the most likely outcome will be to enrage him and make the attack more brutal.
For the family to continue to believe he wasn't innocent after loads of evidence is so wild to me. This poor family, I'm sorry for their loss.
His familiy is really a disgrace.
no wonder he was insane/so evil, sounds like the family likes to pretend that nothing wrong has happened
Yes they are why not just say we created a Psycho shame on them
You made that sponsorship seem like part of the video, that's how it should be 👌
Yep
Thought the same... I guess it helped that the product was a really good fit for the channel. No-one minds watching an advert for something that they're genuinely interested in.
On the other hand, I pay extra to YT every month to have zero ads. When the channel sneaks them into their upload I get frustrated and FF through them.
Once you've brutally murdered someone I really don't think that not having a previous criminal background matters or should be taken into consideration.
It's like, oh, this person was a modal citizen before they revealed themselves to be a total psychopath so they should get less time??
And this kid was 16 so he really hadn't had much time to accumulate much of a criminal history.
Also, his parents actually think that their son couldn't hurt anyone and is just an innocent boy but he was perfectly okay with disposing of a body for a stranger for money. 🤔
Then what is the point of a criminal record at all?
I think it should be law, that on any and everyone's 18th birthday, they should be required to give DNA and fingerprints. Not only could help with identification of a victim, it could help with identification of the perp.
Really? You think that governments can be trusted with that do you? They can't even avoid losing USB drives and laptops. Aside from that, the state belongs to us, not us to the state. The government get out of my life and stay out.
Plenty of killers have low IQs it doesn't stop them from planning and carrying out a murder. If another man was involved it stands to reason that mans dna would also be detectible on Lindsay, her clothes, the bag, the bin, etc. I can understand his family not wanting to believe he did it but denying the evidence is illogical. It's scary that he could get out of prison at all much less in like 12 - 16 years. He'd only be in his early 30s at the oldest.
exactly...ottis toole for example
How can someone even be allowed in public that has no emotions and cannot contemplate their own actions ? I don’t care if he’s innocent and hasn’t done anything yet. Someone with that mental capacity is never safe in public.
And he’s clearly capable of some rational thinking to say no comment to every question he knows what he’s doing
Another horrendous prison sentence for a horrendous crime. I know he was 16 years old when he committed the offence, but who can honestly say that he will change, over time. Sixteen years really is truly criminal😢
Poor Lyndsey. Just awful.
So sorry for her family who will be the ones serving a life sentence..
16 years isnt life.. this is scary.. great content as always
15 years is considered a life sentence in the UK
No, a life sentence means that your are on licence from the state for life and it has a minimum tariff of fifteen years. It has never meant a certain amount of time in prison, nor had it ever meant life behind bars.
That's a twist. He wasn't supposed to be out alone for his safety when it was him that turned out to be the dangerous one.
The sentencing and his family are both an absolute disgrace.
Such a sad story,could have been any of us ladies just taking a walk 😓💔 Sending love to her friend family🙏 Absolutely love your channel...your hard work definitely shows through and gives the victims voice❤
How can his family not see the evidence ? Sad
Hooray!!! I’ve been waiting all week for this notification like Pavlov’s dog! 😅 thank you guys… I can’t wait to start it. Here we go! Have a great week everyone! ❤☀️
Drooling?
@@eadweard. absolutely 😆
@@SnowWhite717_ Me too:)
Salivating?😮
@@rocioaguilera3555 and wagging my tail 🤣
Pulling murdered people down the street in a trash bin seems to happen somewhat frequently in England based on the cases featured on UA-cam 🤔
That's how we roll hahaha
Most people wouldn't really suspect anything when it comes to wheely bins. The amount of people laying/climbing into them when drunk aswell is ridiculous
Saves calling an Uber and having to explain why your companion is absolutely comatose .
About 30 years ago a teenager murdered a young Japanese tourist in Cairns. He too carried the body through town in a wheelie bin. A frienda police officer, pulled over, spoke to him and looked in the bin but he had loaded the bin with rubbish on top of the body she didn’t see the poor victim.. so off he went. It was another week before the body was found. All awfully sad. It took my cop friend a long time to get over the incident.
RIP Prayers for the family and all that knew her. 🙏🙏
Poor dog walkers. And who helped him prepare that statement?
Most likely his attorney, I would think.
An IQ in the 60s??? That's legendarily low. I'm amazed he was able to figure out how the wheely bin worked.
In some parts of the world, that is the average IQ.
The average IQ is 100. It is a standardised test. You can't have different averages based on the region.
What a horrible, senseless murder of this poor woman. My heart goes out to her children. 16! How can a 16 yr old do this.?
On another note, you & your sister( is that correct?), your narrative voices are beyond the best! I am right there, every step of the way. You both show such respect and grace to the victims and the victims families while not glamorizing the killer(s) and your videos are some of the best researched and you don't use stock photos but actual videos, 911 calls and photos of the actual people. Thank you for your care and work you put into these. I wait for your uploads and 9 xs out of 10, I put your Playlist on when I go to sleep and listen to your channel almost every night! My favorite one by far!!❤❤❤
Rumor has it, his family is still searching for this mysterious man at large to this day… yes, this comment will never age.
‘Rocky Marciano’ Price? O My Geeeee! What did his parents expect him to turn out to be? The bullying that kid must have endured at school. 🥊
I was bullied at school and after i have no desire to unalive anyone.
such a choice, oy
@@ann-mariepaliukenas19 ‘Unalive’ …. you trying to trick UA-cam? 🤣
@@OrangeySky11 that’s what people say lol
X
Unbelievable 😂 😂 😂
I wish us Americans used the term “wheelie bin” instead of the boring “trash can”
I love when they say torch, for a flashlight.
It kept making me crack up
We've only said it since the early 90s when wheels bins were introduced. Before that we said dustbin which were static metal things.
His family needs to be quiet & BFFR!! Let Lindsay rest & her family grieve in peace. 16 years is already a slap in the face. Hopefully they deny his parole every time he goes up for it.
I would find it odd that someone would be pulling a wheelie bin along a main road for a long way
You only think that cos you've just seen a video where a bin was used to transport a body.
@@eadweard. i’ve seen quite a few,videos of people pulling bodies along in wheelie bins,so i’m going off that.
Not in the UK, there are so many weirdos anything is not unusual
R.I.P. Lindsay Birbeck. 😔🙏 Why did law enforcement essentially disregard such a crucial piece of DNA evidence by not testing the blue recycling bin for ANY DNA such as fingerprints, hair follicles, etc to determine if Lindsay Birbeck's DNA or perpetrator's DNA was on the bin handle or interior of the bin?? A random recycling bin sitting in a wooded region that isn't in proximity to a recycling plant or scrap yard, businesses where you typically see recycling bins should've set off alarm bells for law enforcement to do more investigative follow up for DNA testing & not just ignore it. Why did law enforcement not review additional CCTV footage until AFTER Lindsay Birbeck was found? Lindsay Birbeck was last seen alive on CCTV, so law enforcement failed Lindsay Birbeck by not trying to scour through all of the available CCTV footage to see what else / who else was on the CCTV footage AND also refusing to test the recycling bin from the very beginning.
It’s ridiculous to me that they didn’t. Some dime-store detective work right there.
We do not have "law enforcement" here in the U.K. We are policed by public consent and our police officers uphold the law. They do not enforce it!
One can only presume that they are not fortunate right to benefit from your 20/20 hindsight.
Was I the only one who found it interesting they went from being too concerned to release the CCTV at first to protect him to then releasing it and naming him a murder suspect. Quite a jump. I would've thought "person of interest" would've been used, it would still result in his identification.