How Nikola Jokic Took Over The NBA (without trying)

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  • Опубліковано 27 чер 2024
  • Nikola Jokic has just had one of the best championship runs of all-time, leading the playoffs in points, rebounds, assists & true shooting percentage. And he proved all his doubters wrong about him. And boy, there were so many of them.
    This isn't just the story of how Jokic lead the Denver Nuggets to their first championship in franchise history, but also a story of how overlooked the Nuggets have been. How overlooked Jamal Murray was. How overlooked Michael Malone was. And especially how overlooked the two-time MVP Nikola Jokic was (and still is, even after winning a title as the first option & anchor of the defense).
    And finally, a story of how Jokic took his sweet revenge of all his doubters (notably Nick Wright, Kendrick Perkins, Chris Mannix & Stephen A. Smith). And did it in a way only the Joker can.
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    • The Utter Absurdity of...
    TIMESTAMPS
    0:00:00 - Intro
    0:01:31 - Steal of the Draft
    0:09:13 - Second Year Boom
    0:21:28 - Point Center
    0:31:21 - Playoff Riser
    0:36:10 - Slow & Fat Joker
    0:46:27 - Bubble Nuggets
    1:02:25 - The Next Larry Bird
    1:13:32 - MVP Year
    1:19:18 - Denver Set Back
    1:34:42 - Dirty Fat Choker
    1:41:20 - Jokic vs Morris Beef
    1:50:09 - Repeat MVP
    2:01:37 - Jokic Disrespected
    2:11:13 - Fraud Exposed
    2:26:41 - Not Best In The World
    2:43:38 - Triple Double Machine
    2:54:09 - Embiid vs Jokic MVP Battle
    3:06:31 - Toxic Narratives
    3:25:45 - Fallout
    3:33:31 - Playoff Dominance
    3:41:30 - Sweet Revenge
    3:53:00 - Championship
    4:01:10 - Aftermath
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  • @31hctood
    @31hctood 10 місяців тому +504

    The most exhaustive and complete documentation of the Jokic (and Denver for that matter) disrespect and slander on the web. Tremendous work here.

    • @tooforwon241
      @tooforwon241  10 місяців тому +34

      Thank you! That's big praise to give so I really appreciate it

    • @flighttrash3813
      @flighttrash3813 10 місяців тому

      @@tooforwon241 you a nugget 🍆 rider

    • @BlackMetalPidgeon666
      @BlackMetalPidgeon666 10 місяців тому +7

      Leave out the rest, people will always be against Jokić, tooforwon is where it's at!

    • @yungjoka5962
      @yungjoka5962 10 місяців тому +9

      The best part about this whole thing is that the nba media only congratulated and showed him love when they absolutely had to. They never thought/wanted him to actually win a ship. There is underlying racism in all of this let’s be honest. Perkins was fine with singing his praises as long as he ain’t go too far or do too much. Then he’s undeniably the best player in the world and is running through the west to win a ship and KP turns into the biggest hater ever. Food for thought

    • @nickjones5495
      @nickjones5495 10 місяців тому +1

      @@yungjoka5962you’d love it to be racism lol

  • @c14emmons
    @c14emmons 10 місяців тому +1227

    Jokic > Embiid

    • @jasonhowell-lg5ig
      @jasonhowell-lg5ig 10 місяців тому +42

      Agreed 💯.. by far.

    • @jesstiss222
      @jesstiss222 10 місяців тому +149

      Disrespect to even put JoeL’s name next to Jok’s tbh

    • @blodiaaa6990
      @blodiaaa6990 10 місяців тому +92

      Water is wet

    • @UnoDinero95001
      @UnoDinero95001 10 місяців тому +9

      Talk about it 🫡👏👏

    • @Madvillainy48
      @Madvillainy48 10 місяців тому +33

      It's not even a conversation until Embiid gets a ring

  • @PjTheHero
    @PjTheHero 10 місяців тому +756

    Another 4 hour long masterclass. Your work ethic is insane brotha cant wait to watch this over the next day.

    • @luriopomeo4893
      @luriopomeo4893 10 місяців тому +8

      Bro the video hasnt even been up for 4 hours yet stop glazing

    • @Fourtune1
      @Fourtune1 10 місяців тому

      @@luriopomeo4893stop hating

    • @PjTheHero
      @PjTheHero 10 місяців тому +1

      @@luriopomeo4893 i been watching him for almost a year now, just cause i support someone doesnt mean im glazing. grow up and get a grip.

    • @TJzWayyy
      @TJzWayyy 10 місяців тому

      @@luriopomeo4893😂

    • @SeeThomasHowl
      @SeeThomasHowl 10 місяців тому +2

      Yep. tooforwon did a dope job. The most satisfying part is watching this vid pointing out all that pie left on the face of these "experts".

  • @whatwhatwhat2939
    @whatwhatwhat2939 10 місяців тому +242

    im a warriors fan, and 2022 round 1 of the playoffs was my first time getting to see jokic really up close and personal even tho he won two mvps, denver games werent televised. i was blown away, and came away from that series feeling like we were lucky he didnt have even a LITTLE bit of help even tho we won 4-1. this past season, i told lakers fans after they beat us, get ready for the jokic experience. they laughed in my face. and then he swept them and won a title.

    • @bryanchandler3486
      @bryanchandler3486 10 місяців тому +8

      From a Lakers fan, here's to our aging Stars having some more epic duels for several more seasons!

    • @daddyfuse50
      @daddyfuse50 10 місяців тому +27

      And media clowns were out here ROASTING Jokic for losing with more than 1 guards/wings who are just 1 year later out of the league, and its not because of their age. 😂 For some reason a lot of the media just straight hate the dude, and hate that he won MVPs. It's crazy, and it has to be because they only watched at most the 2 or 3 national Denver games a year

    • @sakamoto8354
      @sakamoto8354 10 місяців тому +10

      I still can't get over some of the tweets and posts I saw that from the 2022 playoffs where they've posted within the lines of "Jokic is a choker because he couldn't defeat the Warriors". Even Lebron, Kobe and MJ wouldn't get past against those Warriors team with that Nuggets garbage roster.

    • @smradinaglupa
      @smradinaglupa 10 місяців тому

      Man, the pain of Lakers fans is like good food to me.

    • @travisnoffsinger4507
      @travisnoffsinger4507 10 місяців тому +1

      Great story bro bro 🎉😂

  • @TheNorthie
    @TheNorthie 10 місяців тому +39

    A four hour video on Jokic and how the media keep dissing him? I’m glad I don’t have to be somewhere tonight!

  • @KC1996LFC
    @KC1996LFC 10 місяців тому +72

    This is a masterpiece
    As a Nuggets fan we had to put up with so much dishonest shit from the NBA media. They clearly don’t watch our games and only go off narratives.
    And yet, despite it all, I’d forgotten the extent of HOW bad their coverage was. Kendrick Perkins, Nick Wrong and Keyshawn should be publicly shamed every day of the off season for their dog shit takes Jokic wins FMVP while their idol Joel Emflop ghosts another playoffs while getting cooked in PnR.

    • @tropickman
      @tropickman 10 місяців тому +6

      NBA refs tried to steal games from the Nuggets via corrupt officiating.
      G4 against Lakers had a series of blatantly corrupt calls, especially in the last 5 minutes of the game.
      James fouled Jokic on back to back possessions & the crooked ref called both of those offensive fouls, which left Jokic with 5 fouls, basically preventing him from playing any meaningful defense for last 5 minutes.
      Then came the off-ball foul called against Gordon. All these corrupt calls allowed Lakers to tie the game at 111 with a minute left.
      The same ref then tried to thieve ball possession from Nuggets by claiming the ball went out off of a Denver player.
      Luckily, another ref had had enough of his corruption & overturned his corrupt call, giving the ball back to Denver.
      Nuggets inbounded the ball & Jokic scored the winning bucket (and was against robbed of an AND1)

    • @KC1996LFC
      @KC1996LFC 10 місяців тому +4

      @@tropickman game 1 in the bubble was one of the worst officiated games I’ve seen. Lakers were the better team but remove game 1 it would have been 3-1 with one game being decided by a buzzer beater, shows the Nuggest weren’t that far away when fully healthy and that was without AG.
      This year I was waiting for the refs to ‘extend’ the series but tbh they weren’t too bad, ultimately the gap in talent was too large and the Lakers kept collapsing the defence allowing wide open 3s, which we were hitting

    • @toribiogubert7729
      @toribiogubert7729 8 місяців тому +4

      Lets not forget that "foul" on Butler, witch was imitiated by Butler kicking Gordon. Some bad ref in that final game, trying to extend the séries.

    • @dakodasmith2127
      @dakodasmith2127 4 місяці тому

      Nick Wrong lives rent free in my head, unfortunately. I can't stand that man's career/existence.

  • @hrizostomdj4087
    @hrizostomdj4087 10 місяців тому +44

    This is stunningly meticulous dissection of the most improbable superstar career in NBA history. Thank you.

  • @joshybones
    @joshybones 10 місяців тому +25

    that bubble shootout between Murray and Mitchell was legendary

    • @andresdelportillo9917
      @andresdelportillo9917 10 місяців тому +1

      Nahhh bubble TJ warren averaging almost 40 was legendary

    • @mvaloppies
      @mvaloppies 10 місяців тому +1

      Yeah, man. And the Nuggets in general were pretty nutty for coming back from two 3-1 deficit.

  • @liftedmarco4976
    @liftedmarco4976 10 місяців тому +11

    I will forever love Jokic for humbling the Lakers and their fanbase this year.

  • @itsblorp
    @itsblorp 10 місяців тому +180

    Bro you are insane, even if it takes you months idk how tf you make these 2-4 hour videos. Actually doing gods work. It takes me a week minium to get out a 5 minuite mini documentary.

    • @ChryskylodonInstitute
      @ChryskylodonInstitute 10 місяців тому +3

      it's not gods work, it's he's work & tooforwon is doing it magnificently

    • @trobtx3538
      @trobtx3538 10 місяців тому

      @@ChryskylodonInstitute doing gods work ~ work of a god, in some peoples mind

    • @daddyfuse50
      @daddyfuse50 10 місяців тому

      I honestly think people have just gotten lazier, or content in general has shifted more toward low attention spans and shorter videos. 1-2+hr videos like 8 to 10 years ago used to be made much more frequently.

    • @toximan2008
      @toximan2008 10 місяців тому

      @@daddyfuse50 It's not even that, it's just more monetarily advantageous to make shorter videos

    • @kachow5830
      @kachow5830 10 місяців тому

      @@daddyfuse50people werent pumping out the high quality shit we see all over now 10 years ago

  • @damonsonnier34
    @damonsonnier34 10 місяців тому +106

    As much as I wanted The Bucks and Giannis to win it all again this year, Nikola Jokic needed this championship even more. His legacy most likely would have been tarnished if he did not take his team to the promise land this year, with the 2 league MVPs he won before this season.

    • @mateusznikicik8770
      @mateusznikicik8770 10 місяців тому +9

      We can surely say its 3 mvps not 2

    • @mikeoh5242
      @mikeoh5242 10 місяців тому +3

      Tarinshed? Yall acting like hes destined

    • @dallinferguson994
      @dallinferguson994 10 місяців тому +4

      What a silly assertion. Jokic has many more years left in the league, which means many more cracks at a championship. His legacy wasn't even remotely in jeopardy this past season

    • @daddyfuse50
      @daddyfuse50 10 місяців тому +8

      What's even crazier is Bron had 2 MVP's before his championship, was never this disrespected, AND had to run to a stacked team of all-timers. Jokic had no other all-stars and dominated the post-season like none other, and at the very least there is no playoff run that is BETTER than Joks. Not MJs best, Bron, Steph, Magic, Larry, etc. Who all, btw, had stacked teams of all-stars. Jokic will still not get anywhere near the respect he deserves, not gonna happen.

    • @gnomechomsky2524
      @gnomechomsky2524 10 місяців тому

      I was rooting for Milwaukee vs Denver in the finals, that would’ve been an all time great series. Hopefully it happens next year

  • @NHD
    @NHD 10 місяців тому +52

    Started this at midnight when I have a deadline for work today. Watched all four hours straight. Way behind on my project and now pulling an all-nighter to get it done.
    Worth. Every. Second.
    Thanks for making this. You made it hilarious. And as someone who watches everything I can get my hands on about Jokic, this has so much I had not personally seen. Thank you for your efforts.
    I will say I am surprised you didn't show the T-Mac clip before the finals talking about how good Jokic is.. it's awesome when you see who are the pros that actually understand the game of basketball. 11/10. I can't wait to watch it again.

    • @karna6634
      @karna6634 10 місяців тому +3

      thats not healthy

  • @Dwcdash
    @Dwcdash 10 місяців тому +24

    Jokic got absolutely wild potential. Possible top 5 all time. Watch out, people are scared

    • @mansoldworld
      @mansoldworld 10 місяців тому +2

      Unprepared for that, and scared.

  • @Championshiporbust
    @Championshiporbust 10 місяців тому +381

    Ay man jsut wanan let you know that I’m proud for how far you’ve come in your UA-cam career, you mention how ur going full time into this industry and I think you can make it very very far in this platform. Also knwo how much you worked on this vid so another thing as well lol. But I’m happy for you, it’s a great video so far, and hope u use this to keep yourself going man. You earned it!

    • @tooforwon241
      @tooforwon241  10 місяців тому +59

      Wow that's generous man! I really appreciate this Super Thanks 🧡

    • @Championshiporbust
      @Championshiporbust 10 місяців тому +13

      @@tooforwon241 I gotcha bro, keep up the good work and use it as a step towards success (no pun intended)

    • @hoodg3nius
      @hoodg3nius 10 місяців тому +6

      AJ WITH THE DONAtion?? BANG!!!!

    • @Championshiporbust
      @Championshiporbust 10 місяців тому +3

      @@hoodg3nius Fr my brother

    • @concordj6122
      @concordj6122 10 місяців тому +4

      you a good human bro full of positivity

  • @Ype
    @Ype 10 місяців тому +56

    I'm out of words. How much work, and love for basketball you pit to your work. Thank you man.

  • @griffdog18
    @griffdog18 10 місяців тому +94

    Great job chronicling all of this! Jokic is my favorite athlete of all time for so many reasons, and you've captured his greatness in this! Hats off

  • @ltsny3851
    @ltsny3851 10 місяців тому +117

    As a Nuggets fan I was ready for this video after Game 5 ended! Been a longtime supporter of your amazing videos.
    You’ve been one of the few people on any platform that consistently highlighted Jokic’s talent and the media bias against him. Big shout out and congrats on all your progress!!!

  • @BoxCarBoy12
    @BoxCarBoy12 10 місяців тому +60

    2:09:57 is such a great quote haha. Not just for Instagram but for social media in general. The fact that Jokic is off of social media triples my respect for him and is one of the many reasons he's my favorite player by far

    • @Romanus-
      @Romanus- 10 місяців тому +1

      Exactly. I love that about him. He’s such a humble guy

    • @shamsielshahar120
      @shamsielshahar120 10 місяців тому +3

      He spends a lot of time in youtube, which is kind of a social media at this point because of community posts they've added a few years ago. But nevertheless, it's still a great quote.

    • @PetSymmetry
      @PetSymmetry 9 місяців тому +1

      @@shamsielshahar120I mean just depends how you use it. Guy probably looks up horse racing tips lol

  • @ConservativeVanguard
    @ConservativeVanguard 10 місяців тому +51

    4 hours my dude? You're an absolute animal. God speed!

    • @tooforwon241
      @tooforwon241  10 місяців тому +10

      Oh my goodness! Your generosity will not go unnoticed. Thank you so much 🧡

  • @sub0o092
    @sub0o092 10 місяців тому +37

    Best 4 hours, 15 minutes , and 50 seconds ever! Keep up the amazing work! I love Jokic he is so disrespected its unbelievable. Lucky he has no social media and doesn't watch ESPN. Just a stoic man who loves his horses.

    • @Irena1106
      @Irena1106 10 місяців тому +4

      ...and game of basketball.

    • @armedjoy3045
      @armedjoy3045 5 місяців тому

      ​@@Irena1106I'm not sure he even likes basketball

    • @samiam3107
      @samiam3107 3 місяці тому

      @@armedjoy3045 he likes the sport, he doesn't like the fame

  • @zkrtrt
    @zkrtrt 10 місяців тому +23

    The thing is he is the embodiment of values that americans have come to resent. He's a family man. He doesn't care one iota about fame. He has an absolute focus on the game, yet he's not consumed by it. It's his job, not his soul. He simply doesn't fit the mould of what the talking-heads and useless media pundits have crafted for someone with his achievements - and like whiny, petty little children, they cannot admit that the mould they've crafted is wrong, that the avenue to greatness is not the one they paved. Therefore, they'll never truly acknowledge his greatness without some caveat: "he's incredible, but can't jump over a curb", "He's a miracle at offense, a disgrace at defense", so on and so forth.
    In the end of the day, he'll never be talked with the same reverence as others, especially other Americans, because he simply isn't one of them. And that's the sad truth.

    • @cappy2282
      @cappy2282 10 місяців тому +4

      You're 100% but there are plenty of American fans who are loving every minute of Jokic. I live in Ohio and most of us like Jokic much more than we like Lebum

    • @C-Culper4874
      @C-Culper4874 10 місяців тому +2

      He grew up in a combat zone. Life and family is more important than basketball to him.

    • @soooslaaal8204
      @soooslaaal8204 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@cappy2282it's because he's white, he embodies the values and sportmanship en vogue in America before sports became so black. It's the truth

  • @arneljaypenaranda2340
    @arneljaypenaranda2340 10 місяців тому +16

    Thanks dude for making this vid. He is my favorite player after Dirk and both getting chips while facing criticism all their career, it is just sweet man. It's fucking so sweet. 🗡️🃏

  • @tooforwon241
    @tooforwon241  10 місяців тому +80

    The support is always crazy on the vids 🧡 thank you all so much!
    I do want to give a HUGE shoutout to two great Twitter accounts that helped me with making this video possible:
    ▶ Jimmy Joe Jerkic: twitter.com/Jimmyjoejerkic
    ▶ n i k o l a e s t h e t i c: twitter.com/nikolaesthetic
    Go ahead and give them (and me 😋) a follow!

  • @SM-zg8mi
    @SM-zg8mi 10 місяців тому +18

    I’m a Bucks Fan but I’m so glad Jokic got his ring this year. Not because I’m a super fan of his, nah, I just think him winning this ring and Embiid failing again makes the league/discussion so much funnier. Like I live for the 76ers downfall, I thought Jokic should’ve three-peated, which makes his win ever so much more hilarious. Btw Embiid won’t ever go down as a consecutive MVP cause the leagues finally clamping down on flopping (watch him barely get 27 a game)

  • @julianbell9161
    @julianbell9161 10 місяців тому +14

    Bro I’m about to go on a 6 hour flight from San Francisco to Philly. You dropped this at the perfect time for me. Amazing timing

    • @BigMoneyMike1
      @BigMoneyMike1 10 місяців тому

      When your in Philly stay away from Kensington that’s where the crackheads live😭

  • @thefriendlyfinger69
    @thefriendlyfinger69 10 місяців тому +18

    Amazing video. As someone who doesn't live in the US I'm astounded by this compilation of trash talk by most of your sports media outlets. It's hard for me to consider that so many journalists and commentators spend time trying to tear down such a unique athlete. Constantly shifting the narrative to satisfy their agenda. Unfortunately it's not surprising either, as I've seen this in another sport over the last decade or so - tennis, with Novak Djokovic. I'm pretty sure he also got called boring etc. Notice a pattern? I wonder how many NBA fans even know that Jokic plays in a league belonging to a country that bombed his just over 20 years ago. Here'e oping he achieves a three-peat, although even then they will find reasons for him not being on the same level as such-and-such player.

  • @PetSymmetry
    @PetSymmetry 10 місяців тому +33

    As a nuggets fan I already know this is gonna be my favorite video. Been watching for a decent bit and man your content just keeps getting better

  • @TheUnitedDrills
    @TheUnitedDrills 10 місяців тому +10

    Jokic deserved to be mvp 3 years in a row. 🏆

  • @saiwaqa2573
    @saiwaqa2573 10 місяців тому +41

    Such a masterpiece bro. Im speechless! The amount of work and effort you put into your videos can not be understated.

  • @yawdjan32
    @yawdjan32 10 місяців тому +11

    Dude , I honestly love and enjoy your takes, in fact I can’t stop laughing at the media and especially your laughter. Man you nailed that clip. Go Nuggets and much needed respect to my boy Jokic

  • @marearp
    @marearp 5 місяців тому +4

    I found out about Jokic and the Nuggets by accident a week ago and here I am, watching a 4 hours video about the whole thing. I guess I'm a NBA follower now.
    Go Nuggets!

    • @etienne4505
      @etienne4505 4 місяці тому +1

      Welcome to NuggLife 😁

  • @robg8203
    @robg8203 10 місяців тому +34

    Great video, I'm glad that Denver finally had both Jokic and Murray in the playoffs this year and they showed us how dominant of a team that they are! Hoping they go back to back!

  • @ARealGamerGrill
    @ARealGamerGrill 10 місяців тому +27

    I'm gonna watch this over a couple days probably, these videos always leave me wanting more ❤

  • @gauravchawla3706
    @gauravchawla3706 10 місяців тому +5

    I join my hands in your praise🙏. A well-versed 4 hour Nikola Jokic documentary is all the world needs to be a better place.

  • @nikolakrstic8079
    @nikolakrstic8079 10 місяців тому +11

    Jokic the beast titan !

  • @montimiller2743
    @montimiller2743 10 місяців тому +7

    Loved the journey they took us on during this Documentary, shows anyone who's a Nuggets fan what the organization did from the beginning/end(from the Drafting of: Jokic, Murray, M.P.J.,)to making the W.C.F. against the Lakers in '20 losing, then Jokic M.V.P. seasons('21, '22), Murray's knee injury & his bounce back last year '22, to the whole organization putting it all together in '23 to win it all!!!

  • @bcyost1908
    @bcyost1908 10 місяців тому +4

    This is maybe the only video ive seen on Jokic that actually gives him the amount of respect he deserves. He should already be up there with how Curry and Bron are talked about.

  • @blueandgreen24
    @blueandgreen24 9 місяців тому +8

    This video is incredible. The only bad thing about was having to listen to so much Nick Wright and Kendrick Perkins 😂

    • @radoddd7539
      @radoddd7539 5 місяців тому

      Same here, these two guys should lower the bullshits they're talking about..

  • @etienne4505
    @etienne4505 10 місяців тому +13

    Insane work, 4 hour of pleasure summarizing the love I have for this player that I followed since 2016. Thank you so much bro !!!!!

  • @princesslightning5447
    @princesslightning5447 10 місяців тому +19

    4 hours!!! Man as a Laker fan I wasn’t even mad we lost I picked them to go all the dam way n win it n they fucken did it Humble Team Right There Proud of Y’all Nuggets Nation

  • @KITT-ms5ep
    @KITT-ms5ep 10 місяців тому +12

    This decade's generational player hasn't been set quite yet, but we do know it's been pretty heavily marked already as the foreign player decade. Giannis, Jokic, Luka, Embiid all already leaving a big mark on the league. When it's all said and done though, I really hope we get to see a couple Bucks vs Nuggets finals and this decade being defined by Giannis and Jokic and to see those two both go down as top 10 players all time if not higher. It wouldn't hurt to see Luka or Embiid steal a chip somewhere in there too, but I really hope championships start going the first two player's way.

  • @YY-wu7et
    @YY-wu7et 10 місяців тому +12

    Jokic might be the Ohtani of the NBA and no one would even notice.

  • @alexandermendez4653
    @alexandermendez4653 10 місяців тому +12

    I never understood the eye test argument. How can you watch Jokic dominate with skill and precision, in a way a Center never has, and not see the best player in the league?
    They also say, "Well I would rather have all these different players instead of Jokic, so he can't be that good." The only thing that proves is that they are poor evaluators of basketball.

    • @wyotriumphrider
      @wyotriumphrider 9 місяців тому +3

      The "eye-test" argument REALLY is: "I was too lazy to actually watch Nikola Jokic play, but I watched a LOT of Joel Embiid highlights, and I can't "unsee" those".

    • @student99bg
      @student99bg 7 місяців тому +1

      My exact thoughts. Saying I would rather pick and then name a couple of players over Jokić speaks way more about them than about Jokić

  • @raizer2810
    @raizer2810 10 місяців тому +12

    I cannot imagine how much it takes to create a masterpiece such as this, and for it to be so long, damn bro. Congrats, this is just incredible.

  • @Abbad1579
    @Abbad1579 10 місяців тому +5

    Certified classic right here

  • @mjthesavagge1197
    @mjthesavagge1197 10 місяців тому +16

    Appreciate the work ethic, these vids get me through a lot 💯

  • @taedarnell2089
    @taedarnell2089 10 місяців тому +4

    This documentary is absolute gold. Brilliant. Hope this launches whatever career you want.

  • @customconcern1
    @customconcern1 10 місяців тому +7

    I miss basketball and this video is so well put together it’s like watching those seasons all over again.

  • @StivKobra
    @StivKobra 10 місяців тому +6

    Best video essay on Jokic, by far. Hands down. Well done, my man. And thank you.

  • @chriskasowski4743
    @chriskasowski4743 10 місяців тому +20

    Love all your videos man. Your style is so relaxing and enjoyable to listen to and the clips are always on point with the topic of conversation. Keep up the great work bro!

  • @dallinferguson994
    @dallinferguson994 10 місяців тому +3

    Dude, seriously, THANK YOU for putting dates. Every bit of context matters and I think it adds a lot to have a coherent timeline

  • @LionMagnus8
    @LionMagnus8 10 місяців тому +8

    A 4 HOUR VIDEO?!?!?!!? And I thought 1-2 hours were long videos. Big props my dude, keep on the grind this is gonna be one of the best NBA channel!

  • @WarPuppy
    @WarPuppy 7 місяців тому +3

    I just watched this whole thing for the second time this week !! Yes It's that good!!

  • @cane.srbljanovic
    @cane.srbljanovic 10 місяців тому +5

    One thing I believe people don't understand fully is - Jokic LOVES the game, Jokic CARES about the game... It's a matter of life or death for him... When he's ON THE COURT.
    Off the court - basketball is not at the top of his priorities.
    But...
    When he's ON THE COURT... when GAME IS ON... He's a warrior, an avenger, do-or-die winner.
    Off the court... there's LIFE... HIS LIFE. His family, his hobbies, friends, ... his time.
    He's kind of a prototypical Serb... Not to say that all Serbs are like him or good as he is or good people when it comes right down to it... But there's that... which is common... an Idea that life is more and bigger than ANY game.

  • @mattyreed316
    @mattyreed316 10 місяців тому +5

    ty for defining my free time for a few days

    • @tooforwon241
      @tooforwon241  10 місяців тому

      Woah huge generosity man! Thank you 🧡

  • @lawrencebrown4510
    @lawrencebrown4510 10 місяців тому +7

    This is easily the best NBA content on the internet. Preciate the content my guy

  • @basedboi3956
    @basedboi3956 9 місяців тому +6

    This is so damn good man, I love your delivery. 4 hours well-spent

  • @Base_Supremacy
    @Base_Supremacy 10 місяців тому +18

    I was wondering why you haven’t dropped a video for a while on either channel. Now I know why, a 4 hour video was in the works.

    • @tooforwon241
      @tooforwon241  10 місяців тому +3

      This vid could've been out much earlier to be honest. A lot happened this summer 😅

    • @Base_Supremacy
      @Base_Supremacy 10 місяців тому +3

      @@tooforwon241 just finished it. That was awesome!!! Thanks man.

  • @copernicuskid
    @copernicuskid 10 місяців тому +4

    This is the penultimate Jokic video 👊🏻 You dig deep for these clips. I think every nuggets fan can appreciate the work you put in

  • @johndotcue
    @johndotcue 10 місяців тому +13

    About his attitude, yea I feel that people in America, or honestly in the west in general, want their athletes to eat sleep and live their sport. Like it’s crazy that someone so good would be this chill and laid back about his life. And sports fans just forget that they too are humans and not everyone is the same. Not everyone is a psychopath like Jordan and Kobe, there are winners out there that are different (and don’t need to beat up their teammates lol) like Duncan and Jokic.

  • @votdfak
    @votdfak 10 місяців тому +3

    Still cannot believe Nuggets and my guy Joker won NBA championship. Thanks for this!

  • @OugiEin
    @OugiEin 10 місяців тому +5

    1:05:20 - "You can't guard me." - Nikola Jokic
    The way he says it too is damn near so menacing lol. And he still put respect on shaq's name despite having so much confidence in those first four words.

  • @Romanus-
    @Romanus- 10 місяців тому +11

    It’s amazing the amount of work you put into your content. It’s excellent work. Just a bit of advice - a video like this will perform much better with the algorithm if you break it into 4 parts and release one part each day for 4 days. The way the YT algorithm works long form content is very rarely recommended and if it is the average new viewer will see 4 hours and move on. If you broke your content like this one into 4 parts I think you can grow your channel much quicker. Love your work man, hope to see the channel grow quick👍🏻

  • @Guactane
    @Guactane 10 місяців тому +7

    This video is amazing, I’ve been watching these type of long form essays for the nba for years and yours have became my fav as of recent. As a nuggets fan I was extremely happy to see a doc video made about our long come up especially bc of how you point out the obvious hypocrisy that has haunted my mind for x many years lmao. Much love and keep going, finished the vid in one day 😭

  • @ronchapman6525
    @ronchapman6525 10 місяців тому +3

    Best documentary yet on Jokic and the Nuggets. Bravo!

  • @bding1738
    @bding1738 10 місяців тому +7

    I am Serbian so you know I'm gonna watch this 4 ours in one take.Lets goooo

    • @user-pt5ce1dd8k
      @user-pt5ce1dd8k 10 місяців тому +2

      E a najrealniji su! Pozz

    • @Romanus-
      @Romanus- 10 місяців тому

      Very cool, you guys must be really proud of having such an amazing player come from your country. Congrats!

  • @clintonwatson1295
    @clintonwatson1295 10 місяців тому +2

    Bro I been watching jok since day 1 and he always legit been special. Thank you for the epic upload~

  • @siouxunit17
    @siouxunit17 10 місяців тому +3

    This is one of the most thorough documentaries I've ever seen about any topic. Well done sir. 👏

  • @cartierr6717
    @cartierr6717 10 місяців тому +5

    Best basketball youtuber right here, thank you for making these masterpieces❤️❤️

  • @artiommikhailov4543
    @artiommikhailov4543 10 місяців тому +4

    This video is incredible. I can't believe it's over 4 hours long. It felt like 2 hours at most. It was very entertaining. I can't wait to check out your other videos

  • @BINGOBONGOS
    @BINGOBONGOS 10 місяців тому +7

    Best NBA content I've seen. Thank you

  • @siler22
    @siler22 10 місяців тому +2

    Wow you delivered ! been waiting for this for long time but i had no idea it would be at this lenght, great work

  • @patrickmundhenk-koch7407
    @patrickmundhenk-koch7407 10 місяців тому +6

    Thank you for all your hard work that is put into these videos. Keep up the great work.
    Jokic is valuable for his team. More valuable that other players are to their team.
    More valuable is not the same as better.
    What I learned from all those I watched until now is: all these media persons and analysts love comparing apples to grapes and have no clue whatsoever about statistics or even basketball.
    The game changes every couple of years. Comparing players from those areas based on statistics is plain wrong.

  • @jluchette
    @jluchette 10 місяців тому +7

    Excellent channel. You’re really unique; your style stands out on this over saturated platform. Tons of good info, excellent edits, compelling story-telling witt heaps of humor… and most importantly: the amount of time that goes into these vids is evident. Phenomenal content.

  • @astromigui
    @astromigui 10 місяців тому +2

    Man this video is insane, might be the best video on Jokic ever produced untill now. Everything is here

  • @PathBeyondTheDark
    @PathBeyondTheDark 10 місяців тому +16

    He is, atm, the best basketball player on the planet and an all time great. The ONLY thing he has to prove is whether or not it's for the long haul. And if he even continues at the exact same clip as now, for 3 - 4 years, he's immediately in serious, and I mean serious, GOAT conversation, and if he goes well into his 30's doijng this... I don't know how GOAT conversations could ever even be taken seriously. He is that ridiculous. This run blows any other out of the water for best 3 year stretch in a career. Everything we have proves that, the stats, the video, it's not a question even if some want to believe otherwise.
    And you know what? Contrary to American belief, all work and no play is in fact, objectively, *not* best for the body, the mind, or even your ability to function at peak level. Jokic has obviously found the perfect regiment for him, that clearly works, and that's all that matters. He may be at peak *because* he doesn't take it so serious that his entire life is his job. He can think clearer, feel better without all the anxiety and weight on his shoulders and thus maximize his inherent gift for seeing the floor on offense and making the correct play. He had to learn how to play better defense, that didn't come naturally. But he stepped up and while it may not be elite, it certainly is enough to reach the highest plateau there is. And he did it with, arguably, only himself as a star on a team that admitedly has terrific role players and a *borderline* star in Murray (so we'll say at least one and a half stars though Murray is on the line if not over it already). *He won a championship without 2 other big stars* and without 2 other hall of famers like Bird, Magic, or Jordan on his second three-peat.
    "He went through a bunch of play-ins." Bitch, those play-ins beat the so called legitimate contenders to get there. If you are going to say the Nuggets had it easy, what does that make Philly, or Boston, or Golden State? Does that mean we have the weakest bunch of teams in NBA history? No, you aren't going to say that, but by saying it was easy then you are implying it. *So stfu.* One and a half stars barreled through to a championship, taking down star studded teams with players in most people's top 10. *STFU, and then STFU again, lock that mouth up throw away the key.* It is the greatest post-season by a single player, and the best post-season by a team that by historical metrics should have an improbable path to a ring. 2 MVP's (should have been 3) and a Finals MVP carrying a load no other star has ever had to and still hoist the trophy.
    The best stretch of any career, no competition.

    • @foarfield
      @foarfield 10 місяців тому +2

      Jordan 88-90 and Lebron 08-10 are still in the mix, I think. I would guess because of pace of play the counting stats of Jokic are a little inflated compared to those peaks. But this past year where he had 70% TS (70!) might have been the best single season anyone's ever had.

    • @AGradeNonsense
      @AGradeNonsense 10 місяців тому

      Jokic actually strikes me as the type of guy who, like Jordan, might win three titles and then give it up to go and train horses.
      Unlike Jordan though, I don't think he'd be coming back.

  • @TheGaston67
    @TheGaston67 10 місяців тому +5

    You my friend are funny as hell! And your work is magnificent. Can't wait to see more.

  • @abdul_2723
    @abdul_2723 10 місяців тому +3

    i sat for 4 hours and didnt skip 1 second!!! dude ur content has a flow that is really good
    ur references r good... hella good i truly love ur content man

  • @padgyurka7879
    @padgyurka7879 10 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for this video!!! Best program for a hangover sunday.

  • @ellemarr7234
    @ellemarr7234 Місяць тому +1

    This channel man. Your work is unmatched. Thank you thank you 🙏

  • @maxaronovitz
    @maxaronovitz 10 місяців тому +3

    I've been watching your vids so much I watch them on repeat to go to bed. Thank you for the movies dude!

  • @Zuri_SM
    @Zuri_SM 10 місяців тому +3

    bro dropped a 2 part movie, sheesh. gonna sit down and watch this later tonight but just wanted to say, appreciate the passion you put into these vids

  • @definitiveedge5096
    @definitiveedge5096 8 місяців тому +1

    I love the interview near the end about Jokic being the first player to not bring the trophy with him during that particular interview and his response being that he left it somewhere and couldn't remember where it's at !!! Hahaha!!! I absolutley love his responses to every question he gets during all of his interviews!

  • @CoronaHoax-nd2rr
    @CoronaHoax-nd2rr 10 місяців тому +4

    I'm only a hour and a half in but can tell you put a ton of work into this. Well done

  • @miked5814
    @miked5814 10 місяців тому +4

    I wouldn't say he's as good as Larry Bird, because in my opinion Larry Bird is the best all around player to ever play the game, but if he puts the effort in on defense and wins a couple of more championships, who knows I might change my opinion on who the GOAT is. He's legitimately got a shot at being that great. Personally, I think he's the best player in the league and I don't think it's close. I just think there are a lot of things to Bird's game that you can't put into numbers and those are the things Jokic needs to work on. Also, he should've been the first player since Bird and only the 4th in NBA history to win 3 straight MVPs, let's be honest.

  • @kurtcampher4716
    @kurtcampher4716 9 місяців тому

    thank you for this

  • @SammysmSoulGlow
    @SammysmSoulGlow 10 місяців тому +1

    Great video. I've been watching this franchise since the beginning. This is wonderful.

  • @vladimird8541
    @vladimird8541 10 місяців тому +10

    The most complete Nikola Jokić video out there. Amazing work brother! I'm speechless on the amount of work you put into. You just got a new sub. Thank you 🙏

    • @user-pt5ce1dd8k
      @user-pt5ce1dd8k 10 місяців тому +2

      Ma dobar je ovaj,pokupio sva sranja sto su pricali o njemu i emisija bi trebala trajati i duze,steta sto ga u Srbiji ne cene toliko kao u Usa,greota.Pozz Sandra

    • @vladimird8541
      @vladimird8541 10 місяців тому +3

      @@user-pt5ce1dd8k Ježim se toga kad čujem, ali kod nas tamo ionako sve naopako. Ima nas dovoljno koji kapiramo šta je uspeo da postigne u basketu i za našu zemlju. Pozz

    • @user-pt5ce1dd8k
      @user-pt5ce1dd8k 10 місяців тому +3

      Jako nas malo ima,pa ni u Bgu mu nista nisu pravili,jbg ali bar nekolicina nas zna sta je on sve rekao i uradio za malu Srbiju.

  • @Kyle-qf5zc
    @Kyle-qf5zc 10 місяців тому +3

    Omg I can’t wait to watch this tonight 4 hours of sweet sweet justice 🃏

  • @GUTZ420
    @GUTZ420 10 місяців тому +2

    i watched everything in one go and didn't lose interest one second man, excellent work mvp🏆

  • @PanthalassaRo
    @PanthalassaRo 10 місяців тому +1

    Amazing long form videos, I love tge commentary and the plethora of different sources you showcase. 10/10, I'm listening to this during lunch at work for 2 days now.

  • @jesusflores5952
    @jesusflores5952 10 місяців тому +4

    at this point Joker proved he who laughs last laughs loudest. Man took Joel winning the mvp like M.J did seeing Barkley winning the mvp, he took it personally “you can win that imma win this”

  • @nomorepartiezz
    @nomorepartiezz 10 місяців тому +11

    im not gonna lie. as a newer NBA fan this past year was the first full NBA season i followed like that. i never bothered watching anything related to the Nuggets or Jokic because i thought they were boring. i was glad Embiid won MVP. but the playoffs proved me wrong. this dude is unstoppable. and as a Heat fan, the finals were painful to watch. but im glad he got a ring.

    • @user-wc2rc3xn4j
      @user-wc2rc3xn4j 10 місяців тому +2

      Длинный лирический комментарий.
      В стародавние времена в одной огромной и страшной стране один мальчик имел привилегию родится на ее западе. И мальчик уже в 80-е имел некоторое понимание и виденье об НБА. Две команды и их лидеры действительно увлекли мальчика, темный Мэджик и светлый Берд.
      Прошло время.
      1992 год и олимпиада в Барселоне, прямые трансляции.
      Мальчик уже пацан из совсем другой республики, посмотрев игру этих двух ветеранов в той великой команде окончательно полюбил баскетбол.
      90-е - эра Чикаго и Майкла пролетают стремительно. Нулевые время странного тягучего баскетбола, но и тогда у него были свои кумиры Айверсон, Коби и Ти-Мак.
      Взрослый уже человек автоматически продолжает следить за лигой , но!
      Возможно это возраст, но с приходом в лигу таких игроков как Харден и Карри (да признаю, они изменили игру!), она стала напоминать фарс. Надутый воздушный шарик, ткни его и... Непонятные штрафные, постоянные дальним броски, уничтоженное понятие игры под кольцом. Ковидный бред с нарисованными зрителями...
      Йокич это отдушина, это возможность увидеть гениальность и простоту Игры одновременно. Взрослый мужчина увидел перерождение кумиров своего детства, тот баскетбол который он тогда полюбил. Именно тот разносторонний баланс который и должен был быть эволюцией баскетбола, а не перекосы в бросок с дальней или постоянные проходы в пост.
      Извиняюсь за столь длинную писанину :))

  • @aquamarine56
    @aquamarine56 10 місяців тому +2

    The best content out there....🎉 as a Nuggets fan, this is now my favorite video.

  • @theMilosr93
    @theMilosr93 10 місяців тому +1

    4 hours of pure delight. amazing hard work went into this, congragulations

  • @travisnoffsinger4507
    @travisnoffsinger4507 10 місяців тому +3

    Whoever says Jokic passes aren't flashy, shouldn't be talking about basketball....

  • @toddmeier5425
    @toddmeier5425 10 місяців тому +1

    Great work putting this together and sharing it! A good study of human behavior that allows for the recognition of trends. It's much easier to see errors in others than in ourselves. This shows a continued struggle by some basketball personalities to recognize Nikola Jokic's ability and the refusal to recognize what is obvious (performance measured by stats) in order to hold on to and justify their stereotypes. So much easier to see this in others, much more difficult to see it within ourselves. It is a reminder that we are all at times subject to bias. It presents an opportunity for us individually to reflect and gain awareness of the hidden workings of how our bias can diminish our ability to see things as they are. And what do we risk when we prioritize the need to be "right" over being true? We become susceptible to ignoring evidence that contradicts what we believe. One of the most challenging things to do in sports (and in life) is to recognize things as they actually are - when they have changed - and then make an adjustment. The best adjustments are based on accurate information. Great teams make beneficial adjustments based on accurate information and they are open to reevaluate when evidence contradicts what they believe. When you start losing, when things aren't going your way, are you able to adjust or do you double down on continuing to do more of the same? Greatness is realized within each of us when we allow ourselves to be embarrassed for our mistakes instead of hiding them; to learn from our experience and apply what we have learned in the next decision - in the next adjustment. So long as we believe that being wrong is considered a weakness, we will avoid humility. Without humility we will struggle to see past stereotypes and other forms of bias and struggle to recognize when things have changed. How will you learn what you do not know if you believe you must act like you know what you do not? When you watch this video, what do you notice about the Nuggets? What patterns do you recognize from people who continue to improve themselves? What patterns to you observe from those who resist being wrong? What attitude and behaviors are you able to objectively observe from Nikola Jokic? Can you see yourself in Jokic? Can you see yourself in the naysayers? We are all subject to bias. It's up to you to learn from it and to make the next adjustment.

  • @mikeysrightleg1880
    @mikeysrightleg1880 10 місяців тому

    good to have you back tooforwon!!

  • @Base_Supremacy
    @Base_Supremacy 10 місяців тому +5

    As a fellow Canadian from Toronto I love Jamal Murray. I’m not a fan of Kitchener/Waterloo but at least someone amazing came out of there.

    • @Woody13woodpecker
      @Woody13woodpecker 10 місяців тому

      Lol, so true, but Kitchener also has a substantial Serbian community, and if you're a meat loving man - go at one of the Serbian food places, you will not regret it!
      I forgot the names, but it's easy to find them on Google earth.
      MUST TRY - AJVAR + KAJMAK combo with grilled meats!
      Have a very nice day!

    • @gnomechomsky2524
      @gnomechomsky2524 10 місяців тому

      I have no experience with different areas of Canada, what’s the deal with Kitchener?

  • @cugelchannel4733
    @cugelchannel4733 10 місяців тому +3

    I just wish Jokic pointed to the Finals MVP trophy and said "Hey Nick Wright! Suck on this! Yeah, you! Suck on it!"