He got evicted from his home in Johto, so he had to become a squatter under Snowpoint Temple until the three elemental debt collectors in the form of rock, steel, and ice confront him.
16:19 Woah, this Silver design was shown in an early HGSS screnshot that was the earliest material of the game we had until now. Glad to see this build of the game in action
Reminds me of the time I saw Barry’s overworld beta hairstyle in old screenshots online from Corocoro comics many years ago. Then the 2020 Pokémon Diamond & Pearl gigaleak happens and we get to see Barry’s beta hairstyle.
To be a bit nitpicky about the description, this build wasn't released as part of this leak. The source code - and its SVN history - was what was leaked, whereas this build was compiled afterwards by a community member, using the final March commit as a basis (hence the date of 2008-03-31).
@@illiarudkov499In the original gen 2 games they only showed their silhouette because they are supposed to be covered by the clouds since they are flying so far away
And before they decide to replace the accordion with the harmonica for the HGSS soundfont. But it makes me question though, why couldn’t they bother improvising the harmonica from HGSS for BW?
Incredible! I already knew that HG&SS were built off of Diamond & Pearl, but it's still uncanny to see all the old sprites! The old design for Silver was especially jarring. The best thing about this in my opinion is the fact that the soundtrack was already composed BEFORE the soundfont was updated! It's crazy to hear classic HGSS tunes in Sinnoh's style! I hope somebody rips all these songs and uploads them soon.
That old Silver's battle sprite had apparently been in a publicly available screenshot this whole time. It's nothing new, but it is jarring seeing it in action, and to see that Silver had an overworld sprite to match which has never been seen before.
This makes me somewhat curious on when in development they decided to change the instruments in HGSS to be more similar to BW, because some of these music arrangements seem relatively close to the finals but using the instrumentals from DPPt in this build
October 31 2008 is the first build to have the new instruments, so it was probably during that time EDIT: May 28th 2008 build is the first to feature new instruments
I mean Soul Silver started development near the completion of the English version of Diamond & Pearl. Just like the 1996 build of Pokémon Gold still had Pokémon Green & Red assets.
the original touchscreen had so much more personality. They always did this thing in the gen 4 era to make amazing touchscreen layouts and then, for some reason...redesigning them completely to make them basic and plain.
33:43 Odd fact, when the developers made better samples for HGSS, they actually forgot to remove the percussive organ (as used in the early composition) from it’s soundfont as it remains unused and is unchanged from DPPT.
@@SMCwasTaken And the overdriven guitar and saxophone as well too, especially the other trumpet from DPPT that was actually used in the Arceus theme in HGSS.
@@SMCwasTakenYeah, and the piano used in National Park is not the exact sample from DPPt but it is from the same source, just a higher quality sample.
I didn't realize the sound font so heavily affected what region it feels like you're in, but that plus using DP sprites makes it feel more like Sinnoh than Johto at times
The fact that the Pokegear seemingly has more options for customization here is honestly kinda saddening compared to the final game. Also wow I honestly kinda like this builds version of the Azela gym Spinarak ride compared to the final. Lastly the fact that the Sprout tower music in this build honestly isn't too far off from the final track is kinda neat to an extent.
That gbc violet city with the dp sound font. They didn’t make a new version yet. Also silvers encounter is gbc new bark town. Also the gym theme is the gbc old gym theme too. A lot of stuff is gbc music in the dp sound font yet it still sounds amazing maybe even better than the final hgss songs
The wild battle theme sounds so unbelievably good with the DPPt soundfont.. It makes me think of an alternate universe where the soundfont was just never updated
16:15 wew silver used barry theme, albeit with some different instruments 19:58 sinnoh trainer theme 37:51 interesting to see that ecruteak city theme is used on goldenrod and had its original gsc pitch
What's really cool is seeing that the game developers had a sense of humor as they were working on the game. Doing silly things like using crasher wake in place of whitney, Lyra as a sign board, and a gym beta being a one room house with regigigas next to a gym leader probably made them giggle while they worked.
These two songs have significant differences: 3:59 This is a completely different arrangement of the lab theme. It gets quite funny towards the end 23:40 Violet city is similar except a new slower section was added to the end in the final version, this one just follows the original song.
16:24 the enhanced version of the diamond/pearl/platinum rival theme really hits different with the extra piano notes, wonder why it wasn't reused in platinum
It's really cool to hear all these songs with the DPPT soundfont over the final HGSS one! Some of these songs even have different arrangements than the final version! I hope someone can rip those eventually!
HGSS are the most feature-rich Pokémon games of all time, in my opinion, so the fact that we have this early footage is incredible. Illegal, but incredible. I would encourage folks out there to download these clips if possible, because it’s important for historical documentation.
@@ValiantPixel Theft and copyright infringement are two different things. Only one of them violates the Lord's Law - the concept of "copyright" is a man-made thing that held no relevance before the printing press was invented.
iirc in the final game, in the upper left corner of national park, theres warp tiles in the trees that take you to a gate where i believe the pokeathlon would have originally been. very sad you didnt take a look :'(
Great catch, I wasn't aware of that. I'd just assumed it hadn't been implemented because it wasn't in its usual place, but I took another look and yes, you DO enter through National Park. The minigames are even functional, albeit super unpolished. I'll do a follow-up on that to show it off, thanks for the comment.
When i heard of HGSS remake in my high school days ago, i was expecting it a fully DPPt soundfont for johto music and dissapointed they try making new soundfont. whelp, guess my childhood wish is only delayed for 15 years
The Pokemon center theme goes crazy … I’m sitting here bobbing my head to the tune It’s so fire But it’s crazy to think, imagine if we had walking Pokemon back in diamond and pearl??
@@svgatkYep, the earliest build of HGSS I played wasn't much different from Diamond and Pearl. Only a couple of music changes, graphic changes, the title screen and music. One thing that I found interesting is that the overworld sprite of Gold/Ethan looks very faithful to his GSC concept art and designs compared to HGSS, wish they kept that as an alternative outfit.
There are two debug menus in the majority of the DS builds, one on the menu by pressing select at the title screen and another more indepth and feature filled one in-game by pressing R + X. btw did you do anything in particular to actually leave your house and enter New Bark? Every time I've tried it my game just crashes (using Desmume so idk if it's a problem on other emus like melonDS)
I'm also using Desmume, but I haven't updated it in like eight years so that could have something to do with it. More likely you're just on a different build of the game, though.
Could you upload the soundtrack of this build? I love love LOVE the Diamond/Pearl soundfont, and would love to hear all these songs without the sound effects!
I actually like the menu screen on this version. I hate how they went for an extremely simplistic look by turning the whole thing a highlighted green in the official release
as i see they got like all the way though gen 4-6 x/y is huge but i was least expecting the remaining of gen 4 (and gen 5) thought it'd end at diamond/pearl but that's now happening! whoops!
Got it from a google drive with like five other ROMs in it, the link to which is unfortunately dead now. The only other one I got was an earlier build that started you in Lucas's bedroom and wouldn't let you leave.
41:13 Regigigas just chilling inside a house, speaking like a human being.
He got evicted from his home in Johto, so he had to become a squatter under Snowpoint Temple until the three elemental debt collectors in the form of rock, steel, and ice confront him.
Maylene: Oh that's just my husband Regi
There was a time when the boundaries between Pokémon and humans was still blurred
@@MunchingOrangemo, what are you doing here?
Dw he's trained.
16:19 Woah, this Silver design was shown in an early HGSS screnshot that was the earliest material of the game we had until now. Glad to see this build of the game in action
That was rooted in there real deep
Reminds me of the time I saw Barry’s overworld beta hairstyle in old screenshots online from Corocoro comics many years ago. Then the 2020 Pokémon Diamond & Pearl gigaleak happens and we get to see Barry’s beta hairstyle.
Same for Ethan's cap having that red logo.
kinda funny seeing silver of all people get barry’s chipper theme lol
To be a bit nitpicky about the description, this build wasn't released as part of this leak. The source code - and its SVN history - was what was leaked, whereas this build was compiled afterwards by a community member, using the final March commit as a basis (hence the date of 2008-03-31).
That's my bad, you're right to be nitpicky. Updated.
Erm… actually 🤓
@@_bedbo thanks! Sorry to be nitpicky, I just figure it’s all so hectic right now there’s bound to be a lot of confusion
Please give us a link 🥺🥺
You can check commits! Dang.
That Lugia looks fucking terrifying
They didn’t bother finishing the eyes and mouth, yet the whole body looks the same.
@@HyperSonicXtreme I know, but the blood red eyes and mouth really sells the vibe
I think they tried to be little closer to GBC original (Ho-oh and Lugia didn't have eyes on title screen too)
The sound effects and the start of the song don''t help either
@@illiarudkov499In the original gen 2 games they only showed their silhouette because they are supposed to be covered by the clouds since they are flying so far away
Holy! That is DPPt soundfont! Made before they made their improvements in HGSS!
It's so crazy, even the UI is that one!
Not until 2008 they started to update the instruments to HG/SS.
And before they decide to replace the accordion with the harmonica for the HGSS soundfont. But it makes me question though, why couldn’t they bother improvising the harmonica from HGSS for BW?
Honestly I love the DPPt soundfont way more than the HGSS one, not sure why
@@JSRphones I would've loved to hear DPPt soundfont in HGSS because they all belong in the same generation
Incredible! I already knew that HG&SS were built off of Diamond & Pearl, but it's still uncanny to see all the old sprites! The old design for Silver was especially jarring.
The best thing about this in my opinion is the fact that the soundtrack was already composed BEFORE the soundfont was updated! It's crazy to hear classic HGSS tunes in Sinnoh's style! I hope somebody rips all these songs and uploads them soon.
That old Silver's battle sprite had apparently been in a publicly available screenshot this whole time. It's nothing new, but it is jarring seeing it in action, and to see that Silver had an overworld sprite to match which has never been seen before.
This makes me somewhat curious on when in development they decided to change the instruments in HGSS to be more similar to BW, because some of these music arrangements seem relatively close to the finals but using the instrumentals from DPPt in this build
October 31 2008 is the first build to have the new instruments, so it was probably during that time
EDIT: May 28th 2008 build is the first to feature new instruments
Creepypasta ass title screen
From the bottom of my heart, thank you for saying “ass” and not “ahh”.
Thank you for not saying skibiti🙏
Thnak you very much for not saying big chungus, I know it took restraint (don't mind me, just trying to join the fun lol)
THANK YOU FOR SAYING “ass” instead of “ahhh”
It's creepy but cool
Hearing the DP soundfont feels strange. I’ve grown up and fell in love with Soul Silver and White’s soundfont.
Man, listening to HGSS songs with the DPPT soundfont feels so surreal.
Makes it feel more bland
Seeing this is pretty surreal. I like how goldenrod is not fully rendered but it all still works.
19:31 The Mystery Zone music from DP still exists here, cool
sooo, HGSS were based _directly_ on DP and not PT after all, only adding PT stuff _later on_
Probably because both began development around the same time, one just came after the other
@@BuryTheLight-tds true that, and that may also explain/confirm why the pokemon sprites on the pokewalker are the DP sprites, too
I mean Soul Silver started development near the completion of the English version of Diamond & Pearl. Just like the 1996 build of Pokémon Gold still had Pokémon Green & Red assets.
I was always annoyed the dress up minigames still had dp sprites
Platinum is also based on DP thats why
the original touchscreen had so much more personality.
They always did this thing in the gen 4 era to make amazing touchscreen layouts and then, for some reason...redesigning them completely to make them basic and plain.
I agree that bottom UI looks so nice
33:43 Odd fact, when the developers made better samples for HGSS, they actually forgot to remove the percussive organ (as used in the early composition) from it’s soundfont as it remains unused and is unchanged from DPPT.
There's More instruments though
Such as the Sawtooth wave and some percussion samples
@@SMCwasTaken And the overdriven guitar and saxophone as well too, especially the other trumpet from DPPT that was actually used in the Arceus theme in HGSS.
@@SMCwasTakenYeah, and the piano used in National Park is not the exact sample from DPPt but it is from the same source, just a higher quality sample.
The fact they made a whole new title screen for this is so interesting. But then they went back to remaking the gen 2 one.
Naming the rival BOOB is peak humor
Not gonna lie, the music sounds kind of good with the Pokémon Diamond/Pearl/Platinum soundfont, some songs don't. but it has that Sinnoh charm. lmao
I didn't realize the sound font so heavily affected what region it feels like you're in, but that plus using DP sprites makes it feel more like Sinnoh than Johto at times
The fact that the Pokegear seemingly has more options for customization here is honestly kinda saddening compared to the final game.
Also wow I honestly kinda like this builds version of the Azela gym Spinarak ride compared to the final.
Lastly the fact that the Sprout tower music in this build honestly isn't too far off from the final track is kinda neat to an extent.
That gbc violet city with the dp sound font. They didn’t make a new version yet. Also silvers encounter is gbc new bark town. Also the gym theme is the gbc old gym theme too. A lot of stuff is gbc music in the dp sound font yet it still sounds amazing maybe even better than the final hgss songs
The wild battle theme sounds so unbelievably good with the DPPt soundfont.. It makes me think of an alternate universe where the soundfont was just never updated
16:15 wew silver used barry theme, albeit with some different instruments
19:58 sinnoh trainer theme
37:51 interesting to see that ecruteak city theme is used on goldenrod and had its original gsc pitch
Cute pfp
@@dafordkidfilms2264 t-thank u bby
@@dedenneistcute 🤭🫶🏼
What's really cool is seeing that the game developers had a sense of humor as they were working on the game. Doing silly things like using crasher wake in place of whitney, Lyra as a sign board, and a gym beta being a one room house with regigigas next to a gym leader probably made them giggle while they worked.
These two songs have significant differences:
3:59 This is a completely different arrangement of the lab theme. It gets quite funny towards the end
23:40 Violet city is similar except a new slower section was added to the end in the final version, this one just follows the original song.
Oh, I recognize the famous legendary Pokémon Lugio ! But, where is Ah-Ha ?
Trapped in a comic book, perhaps?
😂
I like the beginning music in the title screen
16:24 the enhanced version of the diamond/pearl/platinum rival theme really hits different with the extra piano notes, wonder why it wasn't reused in platinum
It's really cool to hear all these songs with the DPPT soundfont over the final HGSS one! Some of these songs even have different arrangements than the final version! I hope someone can rip those eventually!
Remember the 2020 sword & shield gigaleak with all the unfinished towns and sheep and t-posing trainers.
I LOVE that touchscreen menu design!!!
Beta 3D Lugia: I will haunt your dreams and your life.
Bellsprout Tower ost sounds so good with DP soundfont.
25:33
This being my all time favorite game this is really cool to see
We finally have a semi-official HGSS battle theme with the Diamond/Pearl soundfont! It sounds quite good actually.
"Semi"-official?
Hearing the HGSS songs in the DP style feels so wrong, yet so right.
HGSS are the most feature-rich Pokémon games of all time, in my opinion, so the fact that we have this early footage is incredible. Illegal, but incredible. I would encourage folks out there to download these clips if possible, because it’s important for historical documentation.
It's just a game, relax. Acting like this is the Ten Commandments and shit.
@@BasedRedemption Remove the “Based” from your name. You are not in any way Based.
@@ValiantPixel And you are in no way valiant with your estrogen-induced, acoustic behavior.
@@ValiantPixelAlright, guys. Let’s not be Toxtricity here and enjoy the “secret” footage.
@@ValiantPixel Theft and copyright infringement are two different things. Only one of them violates the Lord's Law - the concept of "copyright" is a man-made thing that held no relevance before the printing press was invented.
So cool to see them already experimenting with the X menu on the bottom screen! Something they properly implemented in BW!
We got Lugia.exe before GTA VI
iirc in the final game, in the upper left corner of national park, theres warp tiles in the trees that take you to a gate where i believe the pokeathlon would have originally been. very sad you didnt take a look :'(
Great catch, I wasn't aware of that. I'd just assumed it hadn't been implemented because it wasn't in its usual place, but I took another look and yes, you DO enter through National Park. The minigames are even functional, albeit super unpolished. I'll do a follow-up on that to show it off, thanks for the comment.
@@_bedbo THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!! im so happy you checked it out! cant wait for the video :D
crazy how they already had almost everything done in early 2008
Just starting areas, but yeah designes were definitive
When i heard of HGSS remake in my high school days ago, i was expecting it a fully DPPt soundfont for johto music and dissapointed they try making new soundfont.
whelp, guess my childhood wish is only delayed for 15 years
hgss and dppt still shares the same soundfont for the most part, hgss just added more intruments on top of it
4:15 I find it weird how they turned the lab theme into a waltz
The Elm's Laboratory theme is so different lol
Someone got an email in 2008 saying, "I get what you're going for with the Elm theme but it's honestly annoying to listen to" 😂
omg the bell tower was swaying way more
Oh lord... This looks so cool.
ON GOD these kinds of things excite me more than nowadays game from the franchise.
Samee the series now is so lazy and disappointing. But these leaks get me so excited lol
OH SHIT
THIS MEM GOT A CINDAQUIL
Typhlosion Memes? :v
16:13 pokemon showdown jumpscare
38:38 they replaced whitney, maybe the gamefreaks staffs are also traumatized by her and her miltank 😂
The Pokemon center theme goes crazy … I’m sitting here bobbing my head to the tune
It’s so fire
But it’s crazy to think, imagine if we had walking Pokemon back in diamond and pearl??
I really had a great time messing around with the debug menu in this beta build 😄
33:57 - Everyone's a baller until the Flint Gang rolls-on up to cut-off slowpoketails to make bank off selling to the Kalosians.
The title screen sounds like Dire, Dire Docks
Menus look SOO MUCH CLEANER
4:22 Bro Are you sure that having that pokemon is safe?
😭
my thoughts when shiny cyndaquil popped up
39:39 A SIGN MADE OF HUMAN
Where did we go wrong with the final HGSS menu design bro… lost something special here 😭
Lugia Rage
Rocket Grunts being Elite Four Flint is somewhat funny
>playing through as normal
>walk through walls
Ehm Lugia, you okay there buddy?
Is the music at 0:27 Renditioned from Jolly Roger Bay theme
sinnoh and johto got fused together in a time displacement and ended up like….this!
The way the column in Sprout Tower sways so much more drastically compared how it does in the final game was kinda off-putting lol
41:09 Regigigas jumpscare
33:52 Who needs a front door? Not that guy!
I might prefer these audio remixes of the gen 2 tracks.
Same, they sound more faithful to the original GSC arrangements
@@BuryTheLight-tds I also hear a bit of instruments from Diamond and Pearl in there.
@@svgatkYep, the earliest build of HGSS I played wasn't much different from Diamond and Pearl. Only a couple of music changes, graphic changes, the title screen and music. One thing that I found interesting is that the overworld sprite of Gold/Ethan looks very faithful to his GSC concept art and designs compared to HGSS, wish they kept that as an alternative outfit.
DPPT SOUNDFONT LESGO
lugia became evil now >:3
I'm pretty sure it was an edited version of shadow lugia
Beta version of Gale of darkness shadow Lugia
37:41 hearing Ecruteak city Theme in DPPT Style so mesmerizing ❤
Reminds me of Canalave
There are two debug menus in the majority of the DS builds, one on the menu by pressing select at the title screen and another more indepth and feature filled one in-game by pressing R + X.
btw did you do anything in particular to actually leave your house and enter New Bark? Every time I've tried it my game just crashes (using Desmume so idk if it's a problem on other emus like melonDS)
I'm also using Desmume, but I haven't updated it in like eight years so that could have something to do with it. More likely you're just on a different build of the game, though.
Definetly looks like Shadow Lugia on that title screen. oh ah Cindaquil after what they did to you know what :D
Azalea town slaps with its original soundfont
Each gym having it's own unique design is something they should have kept.
the footsteps
That's the house from black and white!!!
Could you see when the Sinjoh Ruins got implemented?
I may be wrong here but if i am remembering correctly...
the way pidgey is posed in its sprite is based on the japanese green pidgey sprite.
A change that interests me the most is Lyra having a jigglypuff and not a marill.
Could you upload the soundtrack of this build? I love love LOVE the Diamond/Pearl soundfont, and would love to hear all these songs without the sound effects!
Game Freak just gave fans a title screen for a Lost Silver remake rom hack
I see lots of gameplay of these beta builds but no one ever links them
oh almost completed version 😆
I actually like the menu screen on this version. I hate how they went for an extremely simplistic look by turning the whole thing a highlighted green in the official release
That regigigas tho
Is there a download link to where I can play this????
That an aloha lugia on the title screen with its red eyes
So the old rumors of a hg ss diamond n pearl aesthetic beta is true
ah yes that sluggish DP battle engine
omg why does the bell tower beta theme go so hard
Link of The beta rom?
18:10 classic
I'm so glad they got rid of the footstep sounds
as i see they got like all the way though gen 4-6
x/y is huge but i was least expecting the remaining of gen 4 (and gen 5)
thought it'd end at diamond/pearl but that's now happening! whoops!
Not gonna lie I prefer the prototype music more than the current bgm
6:22 Shiny Sentret?!?!?!
this is so fucking cool omg im in love with those leaks
You cannot be a plumber talking like that
How did you get hold of this dude? Anywhere I can find it?
the music is very interesting
how did you find this rom? i have no idea where to look or what to look for. there's so much stuff floating around it's confusing
Got it from a google drive with like five other ROMs in it, the link to which is unfortunately dead now. The only other one I got was an earlier build that started you in Lucas's bedroom and wouldn't let you leave.
nevermind found it
gofile ujDZco
@@_bedbo do u still have the game file Would love to download it
@@whitegoku9918 and get this dude's channel deleted? Very smart /sarcasm
@@_bedbo is there any way you could host it somewhere privately?
team rocket grunts are flint lmao