If your alt and Windows keys are switched despite being in Windows mode, switch from Windows to Mac and back to Windows, that should take care of your key positions.
This is awesome thank you! Based on this video (which is great, info packed, very useful) I was able to convince myself this is the right one for me and I am typing this already on my GMK87! I was looking for the above answer and this resolved the left alt and left win keys swapped issue. It seems this changed the default function keys behaviour too back to normal! Out of the box it was you'd have to press FN + F1-F12 to get the function keys (which isn't good for me)! Thank you for this video, saved a lot of time and money for me and also contributed a lot for me to get and build my 1st mechanical keyboard! I am in love with it!
I literally just ordered one of these to build for my son, logged into UA-cam and your review popped up! Now I'm even more excited, excellent review as always!
Just got my GMK87 through today in Black. I had set of Leobog Greywood V4 in 205g0 at hand and some PBT CSA caps. I think ABS case and Greywood is a real sound cheat code. This is a deep sounding case but with 2 sheets of 2mm silicon sheet added instead of the loose open foam and the sound really tightens up and brings out the greywoods. This is the deepest I have had them sound, normally in Alu case it brings out a clack in them but this.... Really impressive kit
Thank you for your review, been looking forward to it! Especially for some of the info that isn't shared anywhere else, like the retained pcb stab option etc. Reading through the comments, seems like you also already got your GMK81, so am looking forward to a comparison or review to compare to the GMK87. Like I saw that the 81 doesn't come with the PET sheet for some reason. Definitely will pick one of these up, but I'll try to be patient for once and wait for your reviews haha The 87 does sound a bit hollow stock, so also looking forward to the modding video.
That's pretty funny, I've Just ordered this keyboard and switches before discovering this video. Although, i did order XDA keycaps, as I understand they should add more "thocky" sound than mx Cherry ones. Thank you for this video, I'm really glad for it, especially where you explain to pop the membrane not to bend pins on switches.
XDA profile keycaps, especially thicker ones, will definitely bring the bass and make for a deeper tone. I'm glad that you enjoy the video. There is a firmware update, I made a video and links are in the video description. ua-cam.com/video/9mnbZLc3T9A/v-deo.html
Just Built Mine Yesterday and I have found it really interesting as Unlike the GMK67 it ain't just clacky, Stabs are well tuned and perfectly usable right out of the box even without the mods. Plus Be it clack, thock or pop , this board can be tuned to that!!
I have this board. So far I'm loving it. One thing to note, I had to remove the plastic that was sandwiched within the PCB as it was interfering with the switch slot. Overall the sound of this board is so good stock.
In the video I show that the plastic layer is the PET layer, punching out the center posts holes before installing the switches assures the go in properly. ua-cam.com/video/liYK71bfbJ4/v-deo.htmlsi=fXw_lpfygDgzk2F5&t=221
Ensure your Function key works, Fn + Enter cycles the screens on the display, Fn +\| cycles through the effects Fn + [ / Fn + ] changes the RGB saturation.
Just ordered. Thanks for the review! Helped in making my decision. It looks like the stabs can be removed/modded without taking apart the case as well?
I’m looking to get this board (or possibly the GMK67) but few questions to be fully prepared. Would the Gateron milky yellow pro switches work for this? And in terms of the RGB, is there a brightness configuration?
Hoping they do more colors like with the 67. I've seen it on sale for around $30 on AliX so hoping during CNY sales can pick on up for even cheaper! I actually lubed my Graywood V4s and now zero crap sounds, consistent sound and smooth feel. That said, the metal pins on the switch are THIN, nowhere near as thick as other switches so just need to be extremely careful inserting into hotswap sockets especially if you're trying to pierce through a PET or PE layer. They totally are clacky mahjong/dominos sounding... A warm comfy midrange clack. Very little stem or housing wobble and VERY easy to open despite the Kailh box housing
I do believe it's called wing latch housings; Kailh box applies to the different switch mechanism they use. I do believe this lends itself to many sound profiles, glad to hear you are enjoying it!
On a side note, what are the measurements of the knob? This one seems to be different from the GMK67, so I'm wondering what aftermarket knobs would best suit this particular keyboard.
@@MechKeyboards I think it's the long pole that makes me love it, very poppy sound and very satisfying to type on, got a nice bottom out feedback to it.
hello. I bought gmk87 but seem to have a problem with my letter P key. When i press it it doesnt type out the letter, but when the keyboard is asleep and i press it, it wakes up. Could it be a firmware issue? Its really annoying because i had to remap my keyboard.
Oh nice! I have a GMK67 and I love it so much that I ordered the GMK87 before your review (or any other) landed. It should arrive tomorrow. I'm quite happy to see that it seems to be a good deal overall! The absence of lube on the stabs is a downer but heh, I expect to have some work to do on the stabs at that price point.
@@MechKeyboards I finally received my GMK87 this morning. Just like for you, the stabs on my unit are also dry. Other than that, what a board it is for the price!!
This seems ridiculously good for the price. I always like it when a low cost board does good. TKL, 3 mode, VIA-ish. I mean some brands would charge you nearly this much for a braided cable! Is yours an early sample, that might explain the undersized silicon sheet?
Mine is not an early sample, what are you referring to when you say 'silicon sheet'? Do you mean the bottom silicon rubber that sits in the bottom half over the battery?
Just bought the GMK87, thanks for the awesome review! I'm still not sure of which switches to get. I like creamy and thocky. Do you think the Leobog v4s are better than some Akko v3 cream yellows?
Glad you enjoyed, thanks! I'm actually more a fan of the Leobog V3, it's a more defined and deeper tone, IMO. MMD Princess linear are loud and poppy, though tend to lean more towards clack (ua-cam.com/video/GrXqjBzHEHI/v-deo.html). My choice for thock is always Gazzew's U4Ts 9tactile) and LT (Linear Thock) - PullingKeys carries them both if you are interested. 'MechTech' gets you a discount ;) Good luck on the build and feel free to jump on over to r/BudgetKeebs budgetkeebs.com and share your build, cheers!
Hi, thanks for the review! I just ordered a one, it was on sale from the Cutesliving store for around 40 euros, including VAT for EU. I have 2 questions. Regarding punching out the holes before inserting the switches, isnt there a chance to puncture the battery by mistake? I think I will rather open up the keyboard and do it without the battery, as puncturing a battery can be hazardous, not mentioning the fact your keyboard will be destroyed. Also, for the switches, I was thinking about getting a set of the Greywoods, they are really cheap at the moment, I do use a set of KTT Kang Whites and i like the sound, however they seem a bit scratchy when pressing the keycaps on the outer edge instead of directly in the center. I would also like maybe getting a bit lighter switch, but that does not matter. Are Greywoods more scratchy than white KTTs?
1. I use a plastic spudger to punch out the holes, which will not puncture the battery, unless I was really determined! Removing it from the case to do it first will also make inserting the switches easier. 2. Many switches are scratchy when new due to microabrasions in the plastic, after some use though, they rub each other away and become smoother. I like both Kang White and Graywoods and have sets of each that are broken in and smooth as glass.
@@MechKeyboards thanks for the answer. When I received my Kang whites I lubed them without using them prior to lubing, do you think the results in terms of less scratchiness would be better if I "broke" them in, prior to lubing? Do switches even break in when lubed?
@@MechKeyboards Sorry for disturbing you once again, i just recieved my GMK87, feels like a solid budget board to me. However, it seems like my piece has arrived without the Poron layer underneath the PCB, have you had any experience with this? Do you think the keyboard i recieved couldve been returned after someone took the poron layer? I will probably have to resort to returning the order, but if you could tell me if there is any difference without the lower poron layer, i would appreciate that. In any way, please dont damage or acidentally damage your keyboard just because of me.
@@tottiez do you mean this? ua-cam.com/video/liYK71bfbJ4/v-deo.htmlsi=C39uKewpqkp9N4Zv&t=428 - If it's not included then take pictures and send it to the vendor you purchased it from and ask for a replacement.
They both are good, the Aula as a prebuilt, and this one as a barebone; I could use either and would have no complaints. I picked another one up for $30, so between the low price and the fact it at least has partial VIA, the GMK87 would have a slight edge.
I found the Graywood V3's quite bright and clacky. Do the V4's claims on making the sound deeper hold up? Are they deep enough into the thocky category? The Jwick V1 and Epo Jade Blossoms are some of my favourite sounding linears right now and I'm wondering if the Graywood V4 come close.
A few questions for you. What can I use to punch out the holes for the switches, also should I remove the case and then put in my switches? One last question are you able to change the leds to a solid color like white? Not a big fan of rgb
You can use a spudger or another plastic pointed tool to make the punch outs. I would recommend installing the switches with the PCB out of the case, at least for the first time to punch out the holes. Yes, you can set the keyboards to single colors; white is more white-blue, but one can cycle through saturation to get many colors.
@@CreeCube the icons appear only on the information screen, not on the animation screens. There are three screens that can be shows, Function + Enter cycles through them. One of those screens is the information screen, this is the only screen you will see the indicator icons.
@@MechKeyboardsthank you for your reply! I want to try out some silent switches because i just enjoy their sound (weirdly enough). Plus i work at early hours and i dont want to wake up anyone.
Hi, thank you for this very useful video. I am new to mechanical keyboards and just bought my first keyboard gmk87, I have some questions before assembling it. I got gateron yellow 3.0 3-pin switches, are they compatible without problems? Another question, I read that there may be some problems with the plastic film that is on the pcb, is it easy to remove? (I can't tell which one it is from the video) Thank you very much and sorry for the stupid questions, I hope to improve and study the necessary to improve this new hobby! Greetings from italy
No such thing as a stupid question, we all have things still to learn :) Yes, this keyboard is compatible with 3 and 5 pin switches. The plastic film allow the keyboard to sound "creamier", in this video I explain how to properly prep iit for switch installation: ua-cam.com/video/NCjOXj0y0K8/v-deo.html
@@MechKeyboards thank you so much for your quick and kind reply! people and youtube channels like yours make the internet much better. I will watch the video later and start working on the keyboard. :D
I really like this board! Current configuration is a white one with Ajazz Peaches, Aqua Kings on mods, and XDA keycaps. Board 2 will be a black one with tactiles but I haven't decided which switches to use yet. Any recommendations for a good deeper sounding tactile?
Great video! I'm considering upgrading to a custom keyboard once this good ol keyboard Ive had finishes running its course in a couple months, and I'm very interested in building my first custom keyboard in the GMK87!! Quick question, I've seen some reviews detailing that putting the switches in is a pain depending on how much force you're putting in. Causing stuff like bent switch pins and etc. But in this video you're just punching lil holes into the middle of the socket (at 3:38), does this prevent the switch/pcb from getting damaged?? I'm worried of trying to make my build and somehow ruining half the switches I bought because of this!!
Yes, punching out the holes prior to installing switches makes it much easier. I made a video with another GMK explaining in more detail: ua-cam.com/video/NCjOXj0y0K8/v-deo.html Enjoy your build, cheers!
Did you have any trouble with the VIA ? My computer detects the keyboard but nothing happens when i try to pair it on the website, inputs are detected fine on the second tab.
No issues. Note, there are two files, one for connecting to via wired (make sure it's a USB 2 cable and plug it in directly to the PC) and one for connecting over 2.4. V2 has to be enabled in the Design tab, and you must re-authorize the keyboard after loading the file. to usevia.app you need a Chrome based web browser. See if this helps: ua-cam.com/video/S0atTtw0zUw/v-deo.html
Nice, where do you personally get your gif files to import into the program? I had a couple from giphy and imgur but when I run different exports, the native program does not recognize the gif files and I cannot import them into the program in their entirety. The main workaround I had to do is separate each frame into a jpg/png image then import them one-by-one into the program. Any and all help is appreciated :D
I Google "gifs for keyboard screen" or something similar, having toi sift through actual GIFs of keyboards to find some decent ones. You need to ensure that you are downloading an actual GIF and not a WEBP, there are browser extensions that allow you to right click on the image and add extra "save As" options, I select GIF save and then upload animation in the software. Hope that helps, cheers!
@Realaccount2008 I found out that on VIA the actions that are mapped to the knob are found on top of the insert/home/pg up row. I was able to remap my knob press to stop music, and you can do modifiers on it to for like skip/forward.
Hi, I have a question to you. I bought this keyboard and also bought leobog graywood v4s. It's my first time building so I'm scared. Since they're 5 pinnable can I just use force to put them in? Because im scared I will destroy something. Edit: I put those switches but on Escape the switch just go off like its loose, can u tell me how to fix it maybe?
I'd take a look at this video, I show how to punch out the center post holes, as I do in this video, and remove the PCB so I can properly insert the switches the first time supporting the hot swap sockets. Hope this answers your questions! ua-cam.com/video/6bwJ4pmnWWE/v-deo.htmlsi=9zYu1nelbuK_aVe1&t=285
Got mine ordered a few days back for around $40USD couple of days ago, so at that price its a no brainer to grab :) Will be interesting to see how it shapes up. The budget market has really got competitive recently. I think the slew of Alu boards like the Sugar65 etc have forced the ABS case based stuff cheaper. These Zuoya CMK range are interesting. 67 is great but a little hampered by the closed firmwear. Then the new 75% and TKL crop up and all well priced. I have both the V3 and V4 Graywoods, in some way I prefer V3 as they have a very slightly different force curve than the newer. EDIT (I originally had V3 and V3 lol)
Thanks! For silent linears Gazzew Bobagum or tactile U4s. It's not a fair comparison when this is plastic and in-stock while the QK75N is aluminum, a GB product, and one could purchase ~5 GMK87s for the price of the QK.
Making a virtual machine and adding the USB as a pass thru or borrowing someone else's Windows PC. I run Linux, I have to keep a Windows PC just for keyboard software :/
@@user-br6lc6po7y Please do not hijack others' comment threads, you can start your own. You need to use parallels and pass through the USB port to the guest PC in order for it to be able to communicate with the keyboard.
Great review! I was wondering if you know the size of the spacebar, as I am waiting on my kit, and wanted to order screw in stabs, but I don't, and can't find the size of the spacebar... Thanks!
Hey! I have just built it on ktt kang whites v3 and it sounds and feels amazing, but I am having some troubles with key mapping. My left win is mapped to left alt and left alt is mapped to lefr win, and after pressing alt once, left win on key tester just keeps pinging. Also, I can not upload the json files you provided to change the mapping, after I upload it I just get a "GMK 87 VIA JSO FILE(WIRED).JSON Object: should NOT have additional properties. Do you know how to fix that? Or did I receive a busted board?
@@MechKeyboards Thank you! Figured that out but was unable to fix the mapping issues anyway... Looks like I got a busted board and I had to disassemble it and send it back. I ordered a new one even cheaper but it sounded and felt so good... Now i have to wait 2 more weeks for the new one. Btw. Could you record a tutorial on how to lube the stabs on this one? I have tried to unscrew the pcb from the plate but the screens ribbon kept it in one piece.
@@mysteques2771 sorry to hear but glad to know you got it worked out. I'm unsure why you are taking it apart to lube the stabilizers, removing the switch, then unclipping the stabilizer housings will release the stabs from the plate quickly. FOr the spacebar stab, you'll need to fish the wire above the padding but below the plate to get it out. They can all be removed without disassembly.
stab lube definitely seems inconsistent, mine came in today and the left shift is completely dry while the right shift is definitely lubed. everything else has varying amounts (for example, backspace could use more, but isn't completely dry) but i'm not about to start complaining after the 45usd i paid for this. i built mine with graywood v4's as well, i'm pretty happy with them but this is the first linear board i've had in a long time and i don't know, i might replace them with some tactiles later. haven't really found the perfect tactiles for me though, i seem to favor P-shaped bumps but i haven't found the right spring weight. keys seem to move too slow if the weight is low or become fatiguing to press after 5-6 hours if the weight is higher. maybe i need to look into 2stage springs...
I'm a big fan of the U4T switches, though I do enjoy a heavier weight. I've also become quite fond of two stage springs, like the ones in the MMD Princess switches. Heavy bump and a nicely loud report. I'll be looking to install PCB stabs when I come back to this one. Enjoy yours, cheers!
The Leobog is an aluminum keyboard, so it's truly not a fair comparison IMO. I bought one of these GMK87s on sale for $21 (go.be2x.com/gmk87aecl) barebone, and I've seen the Leobog barebone for as low as $51 (go.be2x.com/leoboghi75ae), both on AliExpress. Both are quite nice keyboards, but different layouts, features, and case materials makes it difficult to compare one to another.
@@MechKeyboards well, theres alot of things that has put me on fence, the wireless connectivity, support for the screw-in stabilizers and a key after the F12, I cannot seem to find something that has similar layout to the GMMK Pro since I'm actually looking for a 75% layout in the same price range as these 2 mentioned, something thats not AKKO or the IK75
@@thetrashman5258 well, if trying to match the GMMK Pro then I would say the Leobog would be my choice. Minus the "F13" key, the layouts are basically the same, but the Leobog sounds and feels so much better to type on than a GMKK Pro could only wish to even come close with a ton of modding. If you can live without the knob, the Rainy75 would be one to look at as well, ua-cam.com/video/pj1cMTOfAvY/v-deo.html
In my case middle io the PET layer is not fully alligned with PCB under it, so around 6-8 switches above this place is not inseting fully and not working until I press them really hard. I placed small peace of cardboard under this place to mitigate, but maybe there is a better way to resolve this issue?
Thank you. I've disassembled the keyboard and "pinched" all of the misbehaving keys in place individually and it resolved the issue. Guess it was really hard to do by just pressing on the top for some reason :)
VIA does not support the keyboard anymore, cant seem to do any changes on the LCD Screen time or customise it, same for the rgb as well, could you help?
Unless something changed, it should still work. There is an update, but I don't know if this will correct your issues, as I still have one GMK87 using the old firmware and just opened VIA w/o issue: ua-cam.com/video/9mnbZLc3T9A/v-deo.html
Got the same keyboard with the same switches but a lot of them are kinda pingy and some are soo pingy(basically unusable) that they make pingy sound even when hitting other keys. Idk if all are like these or if the seller I bought them from is bad.
Any luck mapping keys? You're right. I've loaded the latest JSON files (works - kind of - when using v2 definitions) but I can't seem to map any keys on the main configuration page.
Yes, I am able to map keys without issue. Are you certain your Function key is properly mapped? 'Fn1(3)' The only thing I cannot map under functions is the knob.
Yup looks like Fn1(3) to me. My RWin & RAlt keys seem to be flipped. F1 & F2 control brightness. Rest of F row keys are all similiarly incorrectly mapped as well. I feel like I'm so close to figuring this out! @@MechKeyboards
Mark, do you know if it's possible to switch back to the clock once you have an animated GIF loaded? Board game in today and the animator worked just don't know how to tell him to get back to the clock if he wants too, lol!
@@MechKeyboards Hi there, just mounted this keyboard, first one ever. Loving it, but I would like returning to the default screen in the LCD display and doing FN+ENTER isn't working. Any ideas of what may I be doing wrong? Thanks in advance.
Theres a flaw with this board and with some modding i fixed it. The PCB is a flex cut and it has a layer of plastic film on top of it and its not cut according to the flex cuts, followed by the PE Sheet. The plastic film is causing the issue, cos when u put in switches, its so flexible that the plastic pushes out the switches from the other sockets. The easy way is to just remove the whole plastic thing out but if u want to leave it on check the steps below. So i recommend opening up the board by pushing from the inside out. Remove the wires, screws and take out the PCB. Next use a box cutter to cut the plastic along the Flex cut lines, after doing this it should solve your problem but the plastic still makes a sound when they flap around as you type. Then u use a thin wire or a cheap keycap puller u have and a lighter to heat up one side of the wire. Then carefully burn the plastic ends along the flex cuts to make it seemless, now you dont have the plastic flapping sound and you have the plastic film still on. Good luck.
Thanks for the review, could u give me the link where exactly u ordered it? I found one on aliexpress for 40€ but not sure if it is a scam because there were some reviews that said some keys didnt work.
@@MechKeyboards Do you think it'd be worth it to change my keychron c1 case with it and use the switches and key caps (until I have enough money for new key caps)? Should be gateron blue switches
@@MechKeyboards my plan was to just take out the keycaps and switches from my C1 and put them in the GMK, as far i could see both were hotswap able, sorry my english is kinda trash
@@MechKeyboards thanks for the response bro, just another question: why there is a file for 2.4 and another for the usb? i have to use one or other? so i cant just change from cable to wireless and it works just fine?
The VIA Software dont recognize my GMK87, everthing else working... i tried change PC, cables, usb ports, not recognize. Do u make something different ?
Did you download the file I link to in the video description? Enable the design tab in VIA and switch "Use V2 Definitions" to on, then load the VIA file while the keyboard is connected. That should get you going.
@@viniciusnienkotter341 are you using Chrome or a Chrome based browser when accessing usevia.app? Make sure to use a USB2 port, USB 3 ports can sometimes act wonky with keyboards. Is this what you see when you click on "Authorize Device"? i.imgur.com/cK7F7mJ.jpg
@@MechKeyboards Im switch to Chrome and worked. You save my day. Thanks man. My keyboard come with 1 died rgb. Dammit, need to buy led to replace on board. (no chance to rma this keyboard).
@@viniciusnienkotter341 yay! Glad to hear you got it working, but sorry to hear about the LED. I would reach out to Zuoya with pictures, they may provide a credit or a refund. There has been times I've been surprised by AliExpress stores, it's worth the shot. Good luck, Tschüssi!
how did you get your left win and left alt swapped? i swapped them in via but when i press the left alt, it still functions as the win key. any help are welcome. thank you so much
@@MechKeyboards unfortunately, that is not the issue but no matter, i just mapped the left win as right win, and left alt as right alt and everything works as intended. Thanks again
I was having the exact same issue as you and as you mentioned in one of your reply's below using the right win as the left etc worked but I found out how to fix it properly I toggled the keyboard to mac mode then back to windows when still plugged in via USB and now I can have left win and left alt set correctly and all working fine & showing correctly in the keytest and everything I hope this helps :)
Lovely @@MechKeyboards ! I figured that FN(1) wasn't mapped and that's why the macros weren't working. Did you manage to get VIA to recognize the keyboard on 2.4ghz? Mine only picks it up through wired
Using key combinations, the directions are on the instruction manual that comes with the keyboard. VIA only allows you to remap the buttons that change the RGB values.
ope I got it, had to reupload the .json file. Have you found if you can set the RGB to be just 1 color? I'm only seeing multicolor light settings in the Lighting Tab in Via.@@MechKeyboards
Hello! I have one problem with gmk87, seems like USB connection dont work at all (2.4 and bt working, but in a strange way because everytime I need to upload a JSON files to connect trough VIA app and desktop version but nevermind) I connecting usb to the pc then the this mini tv/led display turns on, but the rgb lights dont flash, also the keyboard is charging during connected. But via dont see keyboard even I uploading the Wired JSON files (both version, desktop and site), image custom tool dont work aswell beacuse dont see keyboard. There is no action and sound even if I connect keyboard to the PC, unlike the 2.4 mode. I was trying to switching between the modes in many ways but nothing help Do you know any solution for this problem? Thank you :)
From my understanding of the situation, the gmk81/87 are just plastic OEM versions of the Cidoo v75 plus/v87 respectively. Arguably better than those boards though in some ways. The v75 plus doesn't have RGB and the v87 doesn't have a screen.
I picked a Cidoo V65 locally today, never opened, for dirt cheap and I'm surprisingly impressed. The board sounds amazing out of the box. Stabs weren't lubed but that was a quick fix. We will see about the longevity though. If this is just a plastic V75 that might be a big plus. I've never really dealt with Epomaker except for a major discount they gave me on some new switches when I caught a livestream, which I actually really like once I tried them, but the boards and forums are full in "interesting" stories to put it nicely. If it was just one person it might be easy to write off but they are pretty consistent across multiple people who are more knowledgeable and have been doing this for much longer than I have.
@@MarbsMusic Epomaker is banned from Reddit, that speaks volumes IMO. I've got my horror stories of my own; I gave them more chances than I should have.
Do you have any familiarity with VIA on other keyboards? If not, you may need to start from the beginning, like loading the JSON file, if that's not the issue, I'd highly recommend dropping by BudgetKeebs on Reddit or our Discord server (discord.budgetkeebs.com) and post a question in the weekly question thread or #questions channel. This way we can get some screenshots, and try to help narrow down the issue you are experiencing.
I managed to get it to work to a certain extent - first of all you have to go to settings and enable the design tab. then you have to go to design and click on the useV2 definitions. Then you can load the JSON whatever that is in the downloads of this video. after all this i can change some rudimentary settings. Still got no idea of how to alter the picture tho
I just got this. Badmark, can you help me figure out how to have a static color lighting? I've been cycling this and I couldn't make it to be static purple or pink.
@@MechKeyboards I feel so stupid sometimes. Apparently what I thought was a static effect wasn't at all and changing to the other effects and doing the key combination you mentioned, worked.
Hello, can i ask if its possible to customize the default screen like when it shows the date time battery etc its got blue background with black text, can i make it yellow background with red text something like that?
Good question, there is no control over the info display screen whatsoever and the default is military time. It syncs to your clock automatically when run.
@@MechKeyboards in another screen keyboard ak820 pro we can control it using the knob, are you sure theres not a key combination or anything in the manual to control it?
@@MechKeyboards wow! The deals are always all over the place on Ali. $30 and $36 are both better than $50. I wonder if it’ll get into the $20 range as you were mentioning in the video.
If your alt and Windows keys are switched despite being in Windows mode, switch from Windows to Mac and back to Windows, that should take care of your key positions.
This is awesome thank you! Based on this video (which is great, info packed, very useful) I was able to convince myself this is the right one for me and I am typing this already on my GMK87!
I was looking for the above answer and this resolved the left alt and left win keys swapped issue.
It seems this changed the default function keys behaviour too back to normal!
Out of the box it was you'd have to press FN + F1-F12 to get the function keys (which isn't good for me)!
Thank you for this video, saved a lot of time and money for me and also contributed a lot for me to get and build my 1st mechanical keyboard! I am in love with it!
@@MikeeVTi quite happy to hear, enjoy your new GMK87, cheers!
i wonder why this doesnt work on me
I literally just ordered one of these to build for my son, logged into UA-cam and your review popped up! Now I'm even more excited, excellent review as always!
Thanks for watching, I'm sure your son will enjoy it, cheers!
W dad!
thats so wholesome, really hope your son likes it!
Just got my GMK87 through today in Black. I had set of Leobog Greywood V4 in 205g0 at hand and some PBT CSA caps. I think ABS case and Greywood is a real sound cheat code. This is a deep sounding case but with 2 sheets of 2mm silicon sheet added instead of the loose open foam and the sound really tightens up and brings out the greywoods. This is the deepest I have had them sound, normally in Alu case it brings out a clack in them but this....
Really impressive kit
It does have a nice thocky base :
Thanks for the review! I just got my GMK87 and I agree it's pretty great for the price!
Yes! The review dropped, thank you for the review. I can't wait for mine to come. (very good review btw)
Thanks for watching, cheers!
Thanks for the review. Being curious about this board for a while
You're welcome!
Thanks for the review and your answers here and on reddit , bought mine have it stock very happy (MMD princess switches 53g V2 ) .
Thanks for watching cheers!
Thank you for your review, been looking forward to it!
Especially for some of the info that isn't shared anywhere else, like the retained pcb stab option etc.
Reading through the comments, seems like you also already got your GMK81, so am looking forward to a comparison or review to compare to the GMK87. Like I saw that the 81 doesn't come with the PET sheet for some reason.
Definitely will pick one of these up, but I'll try to be patient for once and wait for your reviews haha
The 87 does sound a bit hollow stock, so also looking forward to the modding video.
That's pretty funny, I've Just ordered this keyboard and switches before discovering this video. Although, i did order XDA keycaps, as I understand they should add more "thocky" sound than mx Cherry ones. Thank you for this video, I'm really glad for it, especially where you explain to pop the membrane not to bend pins on switches.
XDA profile keycaps, especially thicker ones, will definitely bring the bass and make for a deeper tone. I'm glad that you enjoy the video. There is a firmware update, I made a video and links are in the video description.
ua-cam.com/video/9mnbZLc3T9A/v-deo.html
Just Built Mine Yesterday and I have found it really interesting as Unlike the GMK67 it ain't just clacky, Stabs are well tuned and perfectly usable right out of the box even without the mods. Plus Be it clack, thock or pop , this board can be tuned to that!!
Fully agree, thanks @SamBoga!
I have this board. So far I'm loving it. One thing to note, I had to remove the plastic that was sandwiched within the PCB as it was interfering with the switch slot. Overall the sound of this board is so good stock.
In the video I show that the plastic layer is the PET layer, punching out the center posts holes before installing the switches assures the go in properly.
ua-cam.com/video/liYK71bfbJ4/v-deo.htmlsi=fXw_lpfygDgzk2F5&t=221
@@MechKeyboards Yeah, I was not aware of it before, but good thing it still sounds superb
How do you cycle through the RGB on this keyboard? I've tried what the manual says but I can't get anything to work.
Ensure your Function key works, Fn + Enter cycles the screens on the display, Fn +\| cycles through the effects Fn + [ / Fn + ] changes the RGB saturation.
Just ordered. Thanks for the review! Helped in making my decision. It looks like the stabs can be removed/modded without taking apart the case as well?
Enjoy! Yes, the plate mounted stabs can be removed to tune but it also is compatible with screw in stabs.
Wow it takes screw in stabs too! This board really has so many features for the price point. Thanks for the confirming that!
@@MechKeyboards
I’m looking to get this board (or possibly the GMK67) but few questions to be fully prepared. Would the Gateron milky yellow pro switches work for this? And in terms of the RGB, is there a brightness configuration?
The Gateron Milky is fully compatible with the GMK87. Fn + Up Arrow /Fn + Down Arrow controls the brightness of the LEDs on the keyboard.
I have no idea why people moan that the 67 is hard to open, you literally slide any card down the side and it pops off and this one looks as simple.
Hoping they do more colors like with the 67. I've seen it on sale for around $30 on AliX so hoping during CNY sales can pick on up for even cheaper!
I actually lubed my Graywood V4s and now zero crap sounds, consistent sound and smooth feel. That said, the metal pins on the switch are THIN, nowhere near as thick as other switches so just need to be extremely careful inserting into hotswap sockets especially if you're trying to pierce through a PET or PE layer. They totally are clacky mahjong/dominos sounding... A warm comfy midrange clack. Very little stem or housing wobble and VERY easy to open despite the Kailh box housing
I do believe it's called wing latch housings; Kailh box applies to the different switch mechanism they use.
I do believe this lends itself to many sound profiles, glad to hear you are enjoying it!
Nice video review! I recently bought a GMK67 as my first custom keyboard. This might be my next one. Where could I get these keycaps btw?
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it.
Here is a link to those keycaps: go.be2x.com/pbtgreybeige
@@MechKeyboardsthank you so much!
On a side note, what are the measurements of the knob? This one seems to be different from the GMK67, so I'm wondering what aftermarket knobs would best suit this particular keyboard.
I'll do the full measurements when I come back to it.
Graywood v4's are such a great switch
100% agree.
@@MechKeyboards I think it's the long pole that makes me love it, very poppy sound and very satisfying to type on, got a nice bottom out feedback to it.
hello. I bought gmk87 but seem to have a problem with my letter P key. When i press it it doesnt type out the letter, but when the keyboard is asleep and i press it, it wakes up. Could it be a firmware issue? Its really annoying because i had to remap my keyboard.
also my knob experience is inconsistent. Sometimes it works just fine but other times i have to do a full spin just to change volume by a bit.
@@CreeCube it sounds like you might have a defective unit, I have not experienced this. Please reach out to the vendor you purchased it from.
Oh nice! I have a GMK67 and I love it so much that I ordered the GMK87 before your review (or any other) landed. It should arrive tomorrow. I'm quite happy to see that it seems to be a good deal overall! The absence of lube on the stabs is a downer but heh, I expect to have some work to do on the stabs at that price point.
I was honestly surprised that they did not sound half bad unlubed, but I agree, at this price, lubing the stabs is an easy ask.
@@MechKeyboards I finally received my GMK87 this morning. Just like for you, the stabs on my unit are also dry. Other than that, what a board it is for the price!!
@@TheRealFlott glad to hear you got it and like it, hoorah! I hope dry stabs aren't the new norm but was surprised of the sound and feel nonetheless.
I reccomend doing some band aid mod for the stabs! mine came with a little rattle. Sounds absolutely amazing with Akko Cream Yellow V3 Pro.
@@dooms8870 I prefer the plumber's mod personally, but the stabs sound just fine after a tad of lube in this case.
This seems ridiculously good for the price. I always like it when a low cost board does good. TKL, 3 mode, VIA-ish. I mean some brands would charge you nearly this much for a braided cable!
Is yours an early sample, that might explain the undersized silicon sheet?
Mine is not an early sample, what are you referring to when you say 'silicon sheet'? Do you mean the bottom silicon rubber that sits in the bottom half over the battery?
@@MechKeyboards yes I think that's what they're referring to. It doesn't show that the board has that silicon sheet on websites
@@dammifaj I've not heard anyone that got one without it, they probably just forgot it.
Just bought the GMK87, thanks for the awesome review! I'm still not sure of which switches to get. I like creamy and thocky. Do you think the Leobog v4s are better than some Akko v3 cream yellows?
Glad you enjoyed, thanks! I'm actually more a fan of the Leobog V3, it's a more defined and deeper tone, IMO. MMD Princess linear are loud and poppy, though tend to lean more towards clack (ua-cam.com/video/GrXqjBzHEHI/v-deo.html). My choice for thock is always Gazzew's U4Ts 9tactile) and LT (Linear Thock) - PullingKeys carries them both if you are interested. 'MechTech' gets you a discount ;)
Good luck on the build and feel free to jump on over to r/BudgetKeebs budgetkeebs.com and share your build, cheers!
Hi, thanks for the review! I just ordered a one, it was on sale from the Cutesliving store for around 40 euros, including VAT for EU.
I have 2 questions.
Regarding punching out the holes before inserting the switches, isnt there a chance to puncture the battery by mistake? I think I will rather open up the keyboard and do it without the battery, as puncturing a battery can be hazardous, not mentioning the fact your keyboard will be destroyed.
Also, for the switches, I was thinking about getting a set of the Greywoods, they are really cheap at the moment, I do use a set of KTT Kang Whites and i like the sound, however they seem a bit scratchy when pressing the keycaps on the outer edge instead of directly in the center. I would also like maybe getting a bit lighter switch, but that does not matter. Are Greywoods more scratchy than white KTTs?
1. I use a plastic spudger to punch out the holes, which will not puncture the battery, unless I was really determined! Removing it from the case to do it first will also make inserting the switches easier.
2. Many switches are scratchy when new due to microabrasions in the plastic, after some use though, they rub each other away and become smoother. I like both Kang White and Graywoods and have sets of each that are broken in and smooth as glass.
@@MechKeyboards thanks for the answer. When I received my Kang whites I lubed them without using them prior to lubing, do you think the results in terms of less scratchiness would be better if I "broke" them in, prior to lubing? Do switches even break in when lubed?
@@tottiez any time there is action or friction, they are being broken in. Over time they will wear away to become even and smooth, lubed or not.
@@MechKeyboards Sorry for disturbing you once again, i just recieved my GMK87, feels like a solid budget board to me. However, it seems like my piece has arrived without the Poron layer underneath the PCB, have you had any experience with this? Do you think the keyboard i recieved couldve been returned after someone took the poron layer? I will probably have to resort to returning the order, but if you could tell me if there is any difference without the lower poron layer, i would appreciate that. In any way, please dont damage or acidentally damage your keyboard just because of me.
@@tottiez do you mean this? ua-cam.com/video/liYK71bfbJ4/v-deo.htmlsi=C39uKewpqkp9N4Zv&t=428 - If it's not included then take pictures and send it to the vendor you purchased it from and ask for a replacement.
If it was between this and the Keychron V2 which would you choose?
Tough call, but I'd probably pick this due to the gasket mounted PC plate.
Glad to see Zuoya offering some different layout keyboards. How would you say this stacks up against the Aula F87?
They both are good, the Aula as a prebuilt, and this one as a barebone; I could use either and would have no complaints. I picked another one up for $30, so between the low price and the fact it at least has partial VIA, the GMK87 would have a slight edge.
I found the Graywood V3's quite bright and clacky. Do the V4's claims on making the sound deeper hold up? Are they deep enough into the thocky category? The Jwick V1 and Epo Jade Blossoms are some of my favourite sounding linears right now and I'm wondering if the Graywood V4 come close.
I still have more comparing to do before I can answer this confidently, but as of right now, the V3 is still one of my favorite linears.
A few questions for you. What can I use to punch out the holes for the switches, also should I remove the case and then put in my switches? One last question are you able to change the leds to a solid color like white? Not a big fan of rgb
You can use a spudger or another plastic pointed tool to make the punch outs. I would recommend installing the switches with the PCB out of the case, at least for the first time to punch out the holes. Yes, you can set the keyboards to single colors; white is more white-blue, but one can cycle through saturation to get many colors.
@@MechKeyboards appreciate it!
How do I do that? Is it possible to just get a single color like red? and can it be done on the gmk 67s@@MechKeyboards
@@myhomiealex6 Fn + \| until you get to a single color and the Fn + (Arrow keys to cycle through the colors)
@@MechKeyboards This answered my question. For anyone checking in the future, the static lighting is called "LIGHT_MODE" in VIA.
Hey hi, Graywood V4 does not have interference with cherry profile keycaps??
No, I did not experience inteference.
Hello, where are the caps lock and winlock indicators are located?
The information screen with the time shows connection mode, caps and Windows lock with an icon on the top of the screen.
Oh great! Do the icons appear if you put a custom gif? Great review btw, I will buy this base after I return my faulty keyboard!
@@CreeCube the icons appear only on the information screen, not on the animation screens. There are three screens that can be shows, Function + Enter cycles through them. One of those screens is the information screen, this is the only screen you will see the indicator icons.
@@MechKeyboardsthank you for your reply! I want to try out some silent switches because i just enjoy their sound (weirdly enough). Plus i work at early hours and i dont want to wake up anyone.
@@CreeCube enjoy building your GMK87, cheers!
Hi, thank you for this very useful video. I am new to mechanical keyboards and just bought my first keyboard gmk87, I have some questions before assembling it. I got gateron yellow 3.0 3-pin switches, are they compatible without problems?
Another question, I read that there may be some problems with the plastic film that is on the pcb, is it easy to remove? (I can't tell which one it is from the video) Thank you very much and sorry for the stupid questions, I hope to improve and study the necessary to improve this new hobby! Greetings from italy
No such thing as a stupid question, we all have things still to learn :)
Yes, this keyboard is compatible with 3 and 5 pin switches.
The plastic film allow the keyboard to sound "creamier", in this video I explain how to properly prep iit for switch installation: ua-cam.com/video/NCjOXj0y0K8/v-deo.html
@@MechKeyboards thank you so much for your quick and kind reply! people and youtube channels like yours make the internet much better. I will watch the video later and start working on the keyboard. :D
@@riccardocaldirola178 enjoy!
I really like this board! Current configuration is a white one with Ajazz Peaches, Aqua Kings on mods, and XDA keycaps. Board 2 will be a black one with tactiles but I haven't decided which switches to use yet. Any recommendations for a good deeper sounding tactile?
My favorite is the U4T.
Great video! I'm considering upgrading to a custom keyboard once this good ol keyboard Ive had finishes running its course in a couple months, and I'm very interested in building my first custom keyboard in the GMK87!!
Quick question, I've seen some reviews detailing that putting the switches in is a pain depending on how much force you're putting in. Causing stuff like bent switch pins and etc. But in this video you're just punching lil holes into the middle of the socket (at 3:38), does this prevent the switch/pcb from getting damaged?? I'm worried of trying to make my build and somehow ruining half the switches I bought because of this!!
Yes, punching out the holes prior to installing switches makes it much easier. I made a video with another GMK explaining in more detail: ua-cam.com/video/NCjOXj0y0K8/v-deo.html
Enjoy your build, cheers!
Did you have any trouble with the VIA ? My computer detects the keyboard but nothing happens when i try to pair it on the website, inputs are detected fine on the second tab.
No issues. Note, there are two files, one for connecting to via wired (make sure it's a USB 2 cable and plug it in directly to the PC) and one for connecting over 2.4. V2 has to be enabled in the Design tab, and you must re-authorize the keyboard after loading the file. to usevia.app you need a Chrome based web browser.
See if this helps: ua-cam.com/video/S0atTtw0zUw/v-deo.html
Nice, where do you personally get your gif files to import into the program?
I had a couple from giphy and imgur but when I run different exports, the native program does not recognize the gif files and I cannot import them into the program in their entirety. The main workaround I had to do is separate each frame into a jpg/png image then import them one-by-one into the program.
Any and all help is appreciated :D
I Google "gifs for keyboard screen" or something similar, having toi sift through actual GIFs of keyboards to find some decent ones. You need to ensure that you are downloading an actual GIF and not a WEBP, there are browser extensions that allow you to right click on the image and add extra "save As" options, I select GIF save and then upload animation in the software.
Hope that helps, cheers!
Thanks for the video, mine just arrived! Is there a way to change what the knob does on different layers?
Unfortunately because this is not true VIA (based on QMK), there is no way that I have found to program the knob actions on different layers.
@Realaccount2008 I found out that on VIA the actions that are mapped to the knob are found on top of the insert/home/pg up row. I was able to remap my knob press to stop music, and you can do modifiers on it to for like skip/forward.
@@MarcusViniciusSaad I swore I tried that before but it worked for me now, thank you!
@@MarcusViniciusSaad the knob can be mapped in the primary layer, but not in the subsequent layers, from my experience.
Hi, I have a question to you. I bought this keyboard and also bought leobog graywood v4s. It's my first time building so I'm scared. Since they're 5 pinnable can I just use force to put them in? Because im scared I will destroy something.
Edit: I put those switches but on Escape the switch just go off like its loose, can u tell me how to fix it maybe?
I'd take a look at this video, I show how to punch out the center post holes, as I do in this video, and remove the PCB so I can properly insert the switches the first time supporting the hot swap sockets. Hope this answers your questions!
ua-cam.com/video/6bwJ4pmnWWE/v-deo.htmlsi=9zYu1nelbuK_aVe1&t=285
Got mine ordered a few days back for around $40USD couple of days ago, so at that price its a no brainer to grab :) Will be interesting to see how it shapes up. The budget market has really got competitive recently. I think the slew of Alu boards like the Sugar65 etc have forced the ABS case based stuff cheaper. These Zuoya CMK range are interesting. 67 is great but a little hampered by the closed firmwear. Then the new 75% and TKL crop up and all well priced.
I have both the V3 and V4 Graywoods, in some way I prefer V3 as they have a very slightly different force curve than the newer.
EDIT (I originally had V3 and V3 lol)
I think I might too, I have used them in many boards. Perhaps I will compare them in this one in the near future.
There's a gmk75?
@@muadification GMK81 75% with a screen.
@@muadification Think it is called the GMK84? no screen like the TKL but keeps the look of the TKL and 65% so you can see they are the same family
thanks for the reply. I just bought it, the GMK81. Paid $53 CAD, dirt cheap. I have high expectations for this board!@@WarrenLeggatt
Nice review! I'm looking at building my first and making it silent as possible. What switches do you recommend for silence and this or the QK75N?
Thanks! For silent linears Gazzew Bobagum or tactile U4s.
It's not a fair comparison when this is plastic and in-stock while the QK75N is aluminum, a GB product, and one could purchase ~5 GMK87s for the price of the QK.
Is there any sort of caps lock light indicator on this board, or would it be possible to have one on the LCD screen?
The information screen shows caps indicator.
new to the world of mechanical keyboards and got this keyboard. is there anyway i can use the Screen Customiser with a macbook?
Making a virtual machine and adding the USB as a pass thru or borrowing someone else's Windows PC. I run Linux, I have to keep a Windows PC just for keyboard software :/
@@user-br6lc6po7y Please do not hijack others' comment threads, you can start your own. You need to use parallels and pass through the USB port to the guest PC in order for it to be able to communicate with the keyboard.
Great review! I was wondering if you know the size of the spacebar, as I am waiting on my kit, and wanted to order screw in stabs, but I don't, and can't find the size of the spacebar... Thanks!
Thanks, it's a standard 6.25u spacebar.
@@MechKeyboards Thanks! Also the stabs are lubed! It's just so small of an amount it looks dry...lol Still an amazing keyboard...
I just received my GMK87 but VIA does not recognize it either wired or wireless any idea what is going on?
Try this to see if it helps: ua-cam.com/video/S0atTtw0zUw/v-deo.html
Hey! I have just built it on ktt kang whites v3 and it sounds and feels amazing, but I am having some troubles with key mapping.
My left win is mapped to left alt and left alt is mapped to lefr win, and after pressing alt once, left win on key tester just keeps pinging.
Also, I can not upload the json files you provided to change the mapping, after I upload it I just get a "GMK 87 VIA JSO FILE(WIRED).JSON Object: should NOT have additional properties. Do you know how to fix that? Or did I receive a busted board?
You need to select 'Use V2 Deprecated' under the design tab to load the file, this should help: ua-cam.com/video/S0atTtw0zUw/v-deo.html
@@MechKeyboards Thank you! Figured that out but was unable to fix the mapping issues anyway... Looks like I got a busted board and I had to disassemble it and send it back. I ordered a new one even cheaper but it sounded and felt so good... Now i have to wait 2 more weeks for the new one.
Btw. Could you record a tutorial on how to lube the stabs on this one? I have tried to unscrew the pcb from the plate but the screens ribbon kept it in one piece.
@@mysteques2771 sorry to hear but glad to know you got it worked out.
I'm unsure why you are taking it apart to lube the stabilizers, removing the switch, then unclipping the stabilizer housings will release the stabs from the plate quickly. FOr the spacebar stab, you'll need to fish the wire above the padding but below the plate to get it out. They can all be removed without disassembly.
@@MechKeyboards Oh okay then. I wondered how to do it with the spacebar stabs. But all other stabilisers were great to be honest. Thank you!
@@mysteques2771 you are quite welcome, cheers!
stab lube definitely seems inconsistent, mine came in today and the left shift is completely dry while the right shift is definitely lubed. everything else has varying amounts (for example, backspace could use more, but isn't completely dry) but i'm not about to start complaining after the 45usd i paid for this.
i built mine with graywood v4's as well, i'm pretty happy with them but this is the first linear board i've had in a long time and i don't know, i might replace them with some tactiles later. haven't really found the perfect tactiles for me though, i seem to favor P-shaped bumps but i haven't found the right spring weight. keys seem to move too slow if the weight is low or become fatiguing to press after 5-6 hours if the weight is higher. maybe i need to look into 2stage springs...
I'm a big fan of the U4T switches, though I do enjoy a heavier weight. I've also become quite fond of two stage springs, like the ones in the MMD Princess switches. Heavy bump and a nicely loud report.
I'll be looking to install PCB stabs when I come back to this one. Enjoy yours, cheers!
this or the leobog hi75? I do like the build quality of the Leobog one but this gmk87 has all the features and looks I need
The Leobog is an aluminum keyboard, so it's truly not a fair comparison IMO. I bought one of these GMK87s on sale for $21 (go.be2x.com/gmk87aecl) barebone, and I've seen the Leobog barebone for as low as $51 (go.be2x.com/leoboghi75ae), both on AliExpress. Both are quite nice keyboards, but different layouts, features, and case materials makes it difficult to compare one to another.
@@MechKeyboards well, theres alot of things that has put me on fence, the wireless connectivity, support for the screw-in stabilizers and a key after the F12, I cannot seem to find something that has similar layout to the GMMK Pro since I'm actually looking for a 75% layout in the same price range as these 2 mentioned, something thats not AKKO or the IK75
@@thetrashman5258 well, if trying to match the GMMK Pro then I would say the Leobog would be my choice. Minus the "F13" key, the layouts are basically the same, but the Leobog sounds and feels so much better to type on than a GMKK Pro could only wish to even come close with a ton of modding.
If you can live without the knob, the Rainy75 would be one to look at as well, ua-cam.com/video/pj1cMTOfAvY/v-deo.html
thanks for the recommendation
@@thetrashman5258 glad to help, cheers.
How is the Bluetooth support? I heard it's finicky at best
I've had no issue with is and prefer it over 2.4g, but my neighborhood is crowded with 2.4g signals.
In my case middle io the PET layer is not fully alligned with PCB under it, so around 6-8 switches above this place is not inseting fully and not working until I press them really hard. I placed small peace of cardboard under this place to mitigate, but maybe there is a better way to resolve this issue?
I'd really need a picture to determine, I'm not quite sure I understand from your description.
Thank you. I've disassembled the keyboard and "pinched" all of the misbehaving keys in place individually and it resolved the issue. Guess it was really hard to do by just pressing on the top for some reason :)
@@redroomsyndrome glad to hear you got it worked out, cheers!
VIA does not support the keyboard anymore, cant seem to do any changes on the LCD Screen time or customise it, same for the rgb as well, could you help?
Unless something changed, it should still work. There is an update, but I don't know if this will correct your issues, as I still have one GMK87 using the old firmware and just opened VIA w/o issue: ua-cam.com/video/9mnbZLc3T9A/v-deo.html
i got one last year but never really knew how to change the date the time. Would you know how to?
You need to plug it in and run the screen customizer software as I explain in the video.
Running the Leobog Graywood V4, although they are factory lubed they still sound scratchy, definitely need a hand lube
My keyboard is the same but when i conect it it just appears the initial led animation and then turn of, how do i turn it on?
Try other USB cables and other ports, avoid using a USB hub.
PET layer much better than PE foam mod?
The combination of the two is the best IMO.
Got the same keyboard with the same switches but a lot of them are kinda pingy and some are soo pingy(basically unusable) that they make pingy sound even when hitting other keys.
Idk if all are like these or if the seller I bought them from is bad.
Though these are usually sold lubricated, you could have gotten a non-lubricated batch. Lubing them should take care of that ping.
@@MechKeyboards i got these hoping they'd be lubed but yeah I think you are right.
Any luck mapping keys? You're right. I've loaded the latest JSON files (works - kind of - when using v2 definitions) but I can't seem to map any keys on the main configuration page.
Yes, I am able to map keys without issue. Are you certain your Function key is properly mapped? 'Fn1(3)'
The only thing I cannot map under functions is the knob.
Yup looks like Fn1(3) to me.
My RWin & RAlt keys seem to be flipped.
F1 & F2 control brightness. Rest of F row keys are all similiarly incorrectly mapped as well.
I feel like I'm so close to figuring this out! @@MechKeyboards
@@eugeloo try this: Flip the Mac and Windows switch from Windows to Mac and back to Windows, now check how the keys respond.
Holy moley that worked! You're the best! Thanks for the help.
@@MechKeyboards
Glad to be of help@@eugeloo, cheers!
Mark, do you know if it's possible to switch back to the clock once you have an animated GIF loaded? Board game in today and the animator worked just don't know how to tell him to get back to the clock if he wants too, lol!
Function + Enter cycles through the three screens.
@@MechKeyboards THANK YOU!
@@MarbsMusic glad to help, cheers!
@@MechKeyboards Hi there, just mounted this keyboard, first one ever. Loving it, but I would like returning to the default screen in the LCD display and doing FN+ENTER isn't working. Any ideas of what may I be doing wrong? Thanks in advance.
@@magopol7837 check your function and enter switches and make sure you have the keycap in the right position.
how to return the small screen into default?
Back to the original animations, I've not yet found a way.
Theres a flaw with this board and with some modding i fixed it. The PCB is a flex cut and it has a layer of plastic film on top of it and its not cut according to the flex cuts, followed by the PE Sheet. The plastic film is causing the issue, cos when u put in switches, its so flexible that the plastic pushes out the switches from the other sockets.
The easy way is to just remove the whole plastic thing out but if u want to leave it on check the steps below.
So i recommend opening up the board by pushing from the inside out. Remove the wires, screws and take out the PCB. Next use a box cutter to cut the plastic along the Flex cut lines, after doing this it should solve your problem but the plastic still makes a sound when they flap around as you type. Then u use a thin wire or a cheap keycap puller u have and a lighter to heat up one side of the wire. Then carefully burn the plastic ends along the flex cuts to make it seemless, now you dont have the plastic flapping sound and you have the plastic film still on. Good luck.
That plastic layer belongs there it's called a PET layer ua-cam.com/video/NCjOXj0y0K8/v-deo.html
Thanks for the review, could u give me the link where exactly u ordered it? I found one on aliexpress for 40€ but not sure if it is a scam because there were some reviews that said some keys didnt work.
Glad you enjoyed. Either the Zuoya store or Cutesliving: www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806181668257.html
@@MechKeyboards Thank you :)
@@MechKeyboards Do you think it'd be worth it to change my keychron c1 case with it and use the switches and key caps (until I have enough money for new key caps)? Should be gateron blue switches
@@aurell405 the case? I truly doubt that this PCB will fit or work in a C1 case.
@@MechKeyboards my plan was to just take out the keycaps and switches from my C1 and put them in the GMK, as far i could see both were hotswap able, sorry my english is kinda trash
really great video thank you! do you know how to set date and time using via software?can't find a way :(
The time and date are set when you plug it in to a Windows PC and open up the customizer software to change the images on the display.
can you actually remap the keys easily after uploading the json file? the knob functions too?
Yes, VIA allows remapping, and the knob can be reprogrammed for most functionality.
@@MechKeyboards thanks for the response bro, just another question: why there is a file for 2.4 and another for the usb? i have to use one or other? so i cant just change from cable to wireless and it works just fine?
@@rycardoantunes8152 the 2.4g file is to connect VIA over 2.4g, the USB file, to connect over USB.
Hi, my keyboard won't connect to VIA no matter what I do. I'm at a loss. Can someone help please? Thank you!
This is for a Monsgeek but it applies the same, see if it helps: ua-cam.com/video/S0atTtw0zUw/v-deo.html
how's the gasket on it? Because idk if it's just me but it looks very stiff imo.
It's actually quite flexy, not the flexiest, but the flexcuts and the gaskets do allow for some bounce.
@@MechKeyboards okay, thanks for the helpful insight
The VIA Software dont recognize my GMK87, everthing else working... i tried change PC, cables, usb ports, not recognize. Do u make something different ?
Did you download the file I link to in the video description? Enable the design tab in VIA and switch "Use V2 Definitions" to on, then load the VIA file while the keyboard is connected. That should get you going.
@@MechKeyboards After connect on USB the VIA Software or WEB keep on "searching for devices"
@@viniciusnienkotter341 are you using Chrome or a Chrome based browser when accessing usevia.app? Make sure to use a USB2 port, USB 3 ports can sometimes act wonky with keyboards.
Is this what you see when you click on "Authorize Device"?
i.imgur.com/cK7F7mJ.jpg
@@MechKeyboards Im switch to Chrome and worked. You save my day. Thanks man. My keyboard come with 1 died rgb. Dammit, need to buy led to replace on board. (no chance to rma this keyboard).
@@viniciusnienkotter341 yay! Glad to hear you got it working, but sorry to hear about the LED. I would reach out to Zuoya with pictures, they may provide a credit or a refund. There has been times I've been surprised by AliExpress stores, it's worth the shot. Good luck, Tschüssi!
how did you get your left win and left alt swapped? i swapped them in via but when i press the left alt, it still functions as the win key. any help are welcome. thank you so much
Layer 0 and 1 are WIndows mode layers, layer 2 and 3 are Mac mode layers.
@@MechKeyboards unfortunately, that is not the issue but no matter, i just mapped the left win as right win, and left alt as right alt and everything works as intended. Thanks again
@@Negative_Osden glad you got it worked out, cheers!
I was having the exact same issue as you and as you mentioned in one of your reply's below using the right win as the left etc worked but I found out how to fix it properly I toggled the keyboard to mac mode then back to windows when still plugged in via USB and now I can have left win and left alt set correctly and all working fine & showing correctly in the keytest and everything I hope this helps :)
@@latepacket yes, I found this fix and published in my GMK67-S video: ua-cam.com/video/adW2f2L9Qvw/v-deo.html
do you think this board will be capable of doing clacky?
Perhaps, I've not yet modded it, though it does lend itself to thock.
Did you find a way to get the clock back on the screen after changing it?
Fn + Enter cycles through the two animation and the information display.
Lovely @@MechKeyboards ! I figured that FN(1) wasn't mapped and that's why the macros weren't working. Did you manage to get VIA to recognize the keyboard on 2.4ghz? Mine only picks it up through wired
@@MarcusViniciusSaad I have, but you have to use the 2.4g JSON file.
please help! I can't seem to use the via software and nothing is working. Trying to remap keys and change rgb effects. Thanks!
Per haps this will help, it's meant for a MOnsgeek, but applies the same: ua-cam.com/video/S0atTtw0zUw/v-deo.html
I didn't find how to change the leds color from VIA only the rgb effect, did you find how to do it ?
Using key combinations, the directions are on the instruction manual that comes with the keyboard. VIA only allows you to remap the buttons that change the RGB values.
@@MechKeyboards Thanks ! I've re-read it and found the instruction.
@@rexpowercolt2524 glad to hear, I was not in my office, so could not look at mine, cheers!
akko 5075s or this gmk87? which one has the best quality
Akko has a slight edge in my opinion.
updated the firmware, got via on chrome to detect the board, I can change the macros but I can't change the rgb lighting colors. any tips?
You now have to bind keys to change the RGB effects.
Just built mine and loving it so far! Only complaint so far is that Via keeps searching for keyboard, thus preventing me from customizing the lighting
Have you tried different USB cables or different ports on your PC, or better yet, another PC if you have access?
ope I got it, had to reupload the .json file. Have you found if you can set the RGB to be just 1 color? I'm only seeing multicolor light settings in the Lighting Tab in Via.@@MechKeyboards
My keyboard has the Win and Alt keys swapped, and the F1 and F2 keys require the Fn key to function.
Sounds like you are in Mac mode, have you tried flipping the swithc?
@@MechKeyboards I switched to Mac and then to Windows, and it started working normally. Thank you very much!
Awesome@@synnclar1352!
Any idea how to reset the screen back to its original display?
I have not found a way to reset the screen to the original GIFs, no.
@@MechKeyboards fn + enter worked for me!
Are the stabilizers prelubed?
Most of the ones I've seen do have lubed stabilizers.
Hello!
I have one problem with gmk87, seems like USB connection dont work at all
(2.4 and bt working, but in a strange way because everytime I need to upload a JSON files to connect trough VIA app and desktop version but nevermind)
I connecting usb to the pc then the this mini tv/led display turns on, but the rgb lights dont flash, also the keyboard is charging during connected.
But via dont see keyboard even I uploading the Wired JSON files (both version, desktop and site), image custom tool dont work aswell beacuse dont see keyboard.
There is no action and sound even if I connect keyboard to the PC, unlike the 2.4 mode. I was trying to switching between the modes in many ways but nothing help
Do you know any solution for this problem?
Thank you :)
Have you tried different USB cables, ports or PC? Have you checked to ensure that the daughterboard cable inside of the keyboard is securely attached?
From my understanding of the situation, the gmk81/87 are just plastic OEM versions of the Cidoo v75 plus/v87 respectively. Arguably better than those boards though in some ways. The v75 plus doesn't have RGB and the v87 doesn't have a screen.
I kinda suspected that, but would never bother with Cidoo since it's just owned by Epomaker now.
@@MechKeyboards yea same. Luckily there's OEM versions directly from ZUOYA now. It's a shame they're not aluminium.
@@nightrunnerks I would not be surprised if we see alu variants of this and the GMK81 (which just arrived!) sometime this year.
I picked a Cidoo V65 locally today, never opened, for dirt cheap and I'm surprisingly impressed. The board sounds amazing out of the box. Stabs weren't lubed but that was a quick fix. We will see about the longevity though. If this is just a plastic V75 that might be a big plus. I've never really dealt with Epomaker except for a major discount they gave me on some new switches when I caught a livestream, which I actually really like once I tried them, but the boards and forums are full in "interesting" stories to put it nicely. If it was just one person it might be easy to write off but they are pretty consistent across multiple people who are more knowledgeable and have been doing this for much longer than I have.
@@MarbsMusic Epomaker is banned from Reddit, that speaks volumes IMO. I've got my horror stories of my own; I gave them more chances than I should have.
Sabe me dizer se switch Otemu da redragon funcionam neste teclado, acebei efetuando compra dos switch da redragon ao invés da akko..
Si.
sir may i ask how to change back to locksreen indicator?
Fn + Enter
anyone able to figure out how to remap keys with VIA? I always get an error and changes never save
Do you have any familiarity with VIA on other keyboards? If not, you may need to start from the beginning, like loading the JSON file, if that's not the issue, I'd highly recommend dropping by BudgetKeebs on Reddit or our Discord server (discord.budgetkeebs.com) and post a question in the weekly question thread or #questions channel. This way we can get some screenshots, and try to help narrow down the issue you are experiencing.
@@MechKeyboards I use VIA with my monsgeek mw1 keyboard with no issues. I'll definitely try the reddit thread.
How many gif frames the keyboard support? Thanks
50 if I'm not mistaken.
What do I do with a JSON? all my via says is searching for devices. where is the screen customizer>? I just get stuck searching for devices on desktop
I managed to get it to work to a certain extent - first of all you have to go to settings and enable the design tab. then you have to go to design and click on the useV2 definitions. Then you can load the JSON whatever that is in the downloads of this video. after all this i can change some rudimentary settings. Still got no idea of how to alter the picture tho
You use the custom image EXE to upload images gifs and to set the time.
Do my eyes deceive me or are those keycaps not lining up properly? They don't look uniform. Do you think it might be something with the plate?
Good eyes, I did not catch that until too late, some of the keys were not pressed down all of the way on the keys, my mistake :/
I just got this. Badmark, can you help me figure out how to have a static color lighting? I've been cycling this and I couldn't make it to be static purple or pink.
Fn+ |\ until you reach a static effect/color, the FN + {[ and Fn + }] until you reach the color desired.
@@MechKeyboards I feel so stupid sometimes. Apparently what I thought was a static effect wasn't at all and changing to the other effects and doing the key combination you mentioned, worked.
@@GoldenTengu Don't we all learn in different ways, glad this worked for you, cheers!
Is this keyboard better than the feker ik75?
I would pick this over the Feker IK75 any day, it actually has flex, has mostly functional VIA, has a knob/screen, and sounds lovely stock.
@@MechKeyboards And against this xvx m87 pro?
@@gabriels.santos1006 I would still pick the GMK87, VIA and easy to open and mod, and again, sounds much better stock.
@@MechKeyboards Thank you very much
Undecided whether to grab one of these and build it with moderately priced switches and caps or just grab an Aula F87. Hmmmmmm
Both are great keyboards, with the Aula having a slight edge as it's prebuilt and ready to go OOTB, unless VIA is important.
Hello, can i ask if its possible to customize the default screen like when it shows the date time battery etc its got blue background with black text, can i make it yellow background with red text something like that?
Good question, there is no control over the info display screen whatsoever and the default is military time. It syncs to your clock automatically when run.
@@MechKeyboards in another screen keyboard ak820 pro we can control it using the knob, are you sure theres not a key combination or anything in the manual to control it?
@@dillusion8588 there is nothing in the manual regarding this and I've already tried many combos. 🤷
@@MechKeyboards are you atleast able to change the brightness?
@@dillusion8588 the screen can be turned off, but I do not see or have come across brightness controls.
does anyone know to reset the screen after you put a custom gif on it???
There is no reset, get a single from black image and upload it to "clear".
How many legs does the switch use?
Which switch?
Cherry MX switches use two pins for connection and either a single center post and/or two additional plastic legs for support.
How many sound profiles can I load on it?
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@@MechKeyboards It's a joke...
any suggestions to if my gmk87 is function locked?
Have you tried resetting it? Function + Space.
Mine is the same. Tried resetting. Didn't Help. My F row is stuck as media keys.
@@kennethryan7839 are you sure you are in Windows mode? Are you running Linux?
hello, may i know how big is the tft screen size is?
Sure, it's 24mm x 15mm
I mean the serial number of the lcd screen
@@rfpaintworkz0809 the serial number?
@@MechKeyboards yes, the one written on the cable
@@rfpaintworkz0809 the ribbon cable, no idea, I do not have one open. Why do you need that?
finally a review, i can't seem to reset the keyboard because of the fn keys are not working
Have you checked the switch to ensure the pins aren't bent ior tried another switch?
MIne came without the poron layer, I'm furious...
I'd take photos and send them to the vendor.
Put lubed gateron blacks in there, sounds and feels amazing
My battery goes to 0 in a few days with no rgb lighting. Anyone facing the same issue?
No, my battery lasts for quite some time, around 1 week with RGB on.
Hi, does anyone know how to do FN Lock on this keyboard?
As this is not built on QMK, I do not believe there is a way to add function lock.
via wont recognize mine. i have the same thing and all
This is for Monsgeek but applies the same, perhaps it will help: ua-cam.com/video/S0atTtw0zUw/v-deo.html
I just got a SuperDeal on this for $36.85!!!
Awesome, I'll admit I picked up a black on for $30 the other day :)
@@MechKeyboards wow! The deals are always all over the place on Ali. $30 and $36 are both better than $50. I wonder if it’ll get into the $20 range as you were mentioning in the video.
At this point I would not be in the least bit surprised@@DiabloMonk
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