I would like a discussion about the balance between all the electrolytes. Somehow I have gotten the impression that it's more important to balance then than the amount we get of each one of them. Na, K Mg, CA I'm utilizing a so called Sodium-reduced salt. I,e., it has 30 % of KCl. The idea behind me using it isn't actually to reduce NaCl, but to avoid exaggerated inbalance between them. I get enough Calcium from Yogurt, and supplement with Magnesium. So, I should be good. But it would still be nice to find out what's known about these things. I thought UA-camrs were desperate to find subjects to SHOCK us with. But here they have apparently missed one 🙂 Perhaps they like to talk about these elements separately, to get four different subjects 🙂
Gil over at the NMS channel has somewhat addressed this and basically says that our normal salt for everyday table/cooking use should be the mixes like Salt Lite. The current public formulation is what is needed by those with particular kidney diseases, etc., who shouldn’t be eating potassium, not for the general population. Instead we’ve basically got it backwards-we market the mixes as specialist formulations for the elderly with hypertension, etc., when they actually represent a cheap and easy path to a common / standard formula and usage that would be an improvement in public health while straight sodium-only should be the specialist product.
One of the functional medicine doctors that I follow says that potassium is protective to the kidneys and helps reduce kidney damage from higher sodium in the diet. Possibly due to the tiny capillaries that are highly concentrated in the kidneys. And easily damaged by high blood pressure? Could you do a video on kidney? Health versus potassium levels? Always appreciating your work!
As far as I know this is correct. The standard prescription of avoiding potassium in the case of kidney disease is more of a prescription of not pursuing it without the guidance of a doctor, the benefits of potassium even in those with kidney disease might override all other considerations, it just requires more guidance or care than with those without kidney disease.
Is there some inside/ongoing joke that I am not aware about having the caption text appear behind? because, you know, that's not how caption are supposed to work. We can't read it if you're blocking it
Awesome. For a while I was having my morning green tea with lemon juice, 1 tsp cream of tartar, 15-20g d-ribose, cordyceps powder. Nice but subtle boost to my morning mental acuity.
Dr. Linus Pauling postulated that the root cause of arterial plaque is a Vitamin C deficiency. Low levels of Vitamin C inhibit the body's ability to continuously repair the blood vessel walls with collagen, so the body actually generates plaque as a stand-in patch for micro tears. He pointed out that arterial plaque is found in areas of high stress, such as the arteries adjacent to the heart and not everywhere. As I recall he also pointed out that humans are one of the few mammals that cannot generate Vitamin C and mammals that can don't develop arterial plaque. He developed a protocol to eliminate arterial plaque through the consumption of Vitamin C other supplements. This approach obviously doesn't affect high blood pressure, but it would address the body's ability to handle it.
Too much or for me more than little vitamin c does not feels good for me. because it helps convert faster maybe tyrosine or phenylalanine to dopamine and and i think this exhausts adrenaline too quickly and stresses the system. Too much adrenaline then to lower adrenaline makes a mess with low blood sugar. On a related thought there is bh4 I have a guess it might be related to adrenal exhaustion it would be nice to know more about it if it is related.
Thanks man! Yep, I have been consuming more potassium since I came across Dr Bergs videos on potassium / sodium balance. Big difference when they are more balanced! Much calmer... better excercise recovery and many other subtle things I've noticed. Cheers! 🌱
My blood pressure is to high and I got an ACE inhibitor. In the manual there is a warning that you must not take potassium supplements or potassium salt, it is dangerous. This medicine works well for me.
If you take a drug that spares/retains potassium, you *really* should pay attention to the instructions. Certain drugs like some ACE inhibitors cause the body to retain potassium, so as you consume it the concentration of K in your blood edges ever upwards. There will be no impact, until there's a really bad impact which can include death. Hyperkalemia is no joke.
What if they had potassium tablets on lifeboats so that people could drink sea water but be able to dump the excess sodium? But no doubt that's been thought of before.
I love adding a couple of dates to a protein smoothie, or just splitting them open and stuffing with butter. They are a pretty good source of that k stuff
I’ve heard some suggest adding potassium chloride to table salt to balance out the ratio better. So, when you salt your food you end up getting both electrolytes together and keeping the balance, thus mitigating negative effects of salt consumption. What do you think of that strategy?
I’ve had Hyperkalemia for 20 years now. That means I’m on a potassium restricted diet for most of that time. If my wife gets fries with a burger and I have a few of them, later that night I have muscle cramps so bad that I wake up screaming in agony, feels like my legs are going to break themselves then those muscles stay sore and twitchy for days. As far as I can tell, it’s caused by taking nexium for gurd. If I stop taking it, I have super bad heartburn. Because I’m on a potassium restricted diet, if I get blood drawn the labs all show my potassium levels as spot on perfect. To be frank, I miss bananas and potatoes etc. is there a better way to deal with gurd or at least a way I can get rid of hyperkalemia?
I have reverse osmosis water what should I do? I'm not sure if what I'm doing makes sense. Once a day I take supplement of potassium and magnesium and teaspoon of lemon juice and pinch of salt. Longer explanation of my situation: I used to drink about 230 tds bottled water, and sometimes drink evaporated and cooled and carbon filtered water basically daionized water. And felt well, I don't have this water anymore. So I tried another bottled water and it feels very calcified to the taste I drank eat for some time I started to notice calcium plaque deposits on my teeth. Recently I started to use reverse osmosis water I'm not sure if it is very good because it feels like it lacks minerals. I haven't had chance to measure it yet. It feels like 50 TDS. So we need to try to solve dissolve calcium deposit from previous water I start I have started taking lemon juice and potassium and magnesium as something that prevents calcium bind back after being dissolved. Also I add some salt to retain more water in the body. However I don't have much of this reverse osmosis water and I intend to buy more soon. And I i feel more on the dry-ish side of the body when I drink this reverse osmosis water. Maybe it is just because I don't have much. But I add salt to it to try make it retain more in the body. Can I take potassium daily dose more than once a day? Can I take magnesium dose more than once a day? I consume dairy like Greek yogurt sometimes, is too little calcium is bad?
I've started using potassium chloride in addition to sodium chloride. people say potassium chloride is gross, but tbh, I can't taste the difference at all.
No fast “food products”. Make your own meals, gradually cut down on added salt if you have high blood pressure, and replace with herbs, garlic, lemon, and other ways to add flavor. Cumin, cayenne,. Consider replacing your table salt with Beyond Sea Salt, which is half and half, NaCl and KCl.
Agreed. There are many different brands that offer 50/50 sodium/potassium salts though, so don't worry if you can't find that specific brand, any will do.
I find it’s easier to just get the all KCl stuff and try to moderate the balance myself, knowing how ubiquitous salt is. Like I can use a little bit of broth or a broth reduction in cooking, some condiments which contain some sodium, etc, and then also use a bunch of KCl in cooking or the finishing process, or seasoning to taste at the end, and know I’ve maintained a good ratio.
You’re going to be getting sodium from dietary sources even with no added salt, there’s no evidence a sodium deficiency is possible (barring some other specific health condition) if you’re eating whole foods, we only started adding salt to food really recently in evolutionary terms and that clearly wasn't driven by health reasons so much as taste and food preservation. Assuming you don't have kidney disease, we can handle potassium way more easily than sodium, and this is somewhat reflected in the K/Na ratio found in most whole foods or the foods we know we should be eating more of (potassium tends to be *way* higher). And realistically you’re still going to be adding some sodium because a little bit enhances flavour in a way that potassium salt doesn’t. It's easier to control the ratio in whatever way you think might be advantageous (which at this point is all theoretical anyways) if you're controlling the levers yourself.
I've started taking reduced sodium salt (low salt) as a replacement to normal sea salt ,Celtic salt etc The one I take is 66% Potassium Chloride and 33% salt Cheap and easy .Some say it doesn't taste as good . But it doesn't taste much different. I think it helps. I've just started checking my Blood Pressure (BP) Which isn't too bad anyway My arms BP is ok but the BP from my ankles is a little high . I probably should do a little cardio.
I was thinking about reduced sodium salt as a way to supplement potassium (I have hypertension but already consume plentiful servings of the potassium containing foods listed) I never add salt to my food but wonder if adding reduced sodium salt to my meals would be an overall benefit due to the potassium, or would make my blood pressure worse due to the sodium it still contains.
@@asprinklingofclouds air squats ,long fast walks or an exercise bike will help a lot along with loosing some weight and cutting down on calories . You could probably eat sardines and salads as much as you like .If you don't add any oils you'd loose heaps. Watch some of his videos on blood pressure and buy a £20 blood Pressure monitor and check your BP 1st thing in the morning before you get up to see if you're doing the right things . If you haven't already that is 😁
All due respect, you should be doing some cardio (to maintain Vo2 max) whether your blood pressure is high or not. As well as lifting. It doesn’t prevent everything and it doesn’t cure everything but it sure seems that it’s an extremely potent measure for long health span.
I'm sorry, but I believe that excess Na being a cause for high blood pressure is an old and simplistic medical fallacy, because Na is not only present in the blood but also spread in and around all the tissues' cells and in intersticial fluids. How else would you explain all the liquids we drink, that make it to our blood and excess excreted by kidneys while blood pressure still regulated? Where does Nitric Oxide fit in then? As well as some other mechanisms?
I assume you are talking about potassium. It's challenging as some countries don't allow the sale of high-potassium containing supplements due to potentially dangerous effects if too much is ingested at any time. Not something to worry about with food though because it takes time to digest and extract potassium from food, so the increase in the blood is more gradual. You are better off just sticking to food: potatoes, sweet potatoes, potentially even dates. Pork has quite a bit potassium too I believe, but I don't quite remember. And meat in general has relatively good amounts of potassium if memory serves me right. But otherwise, what you can do is buy a salt that contains potassium chloride along with the standard sodium chloride. Buy a 50/50 or 30/70 potassium/sodium split and use that instead of table salt. If there is more potassium than sodium, the salt starts tasting weird, which I found out after having bought one that was 70/30 potassium/sodium. Some electrolyte powders also have potassium there, but often in small quantities as you don't lose too much of it during sweating and you also get sodium with those powders. In fact, that's the primary ingredient. The Prime drink also has a good amount, but the company is ran by scammers and incredibly dodgy individuals in general, so I wouldn't buy their products on moral grounds, but others can decide for themselves. It's like a sweet soft drink, but no sugar.
That's the situation my dad is in, who has a degradation in renal function. Also, he takes Lisinopril for high bp, which elevates K ... it's a messy situation of interdependencies.
Drop that potassium lore video
I would like a discussion about the balance between all the electrolytes.
Somehow I have gotten the impression that it's more important to balance then than the amount we get of each one of them.
Na, K
Mg, CA
I'm utilizing a so called Sodium-reduced salt. I,e., it has 30 % of KCl.
The idea behind me using it isn't actually to reduce NaCl, but to avoid exaggerated inbalance between them.
I get enough Calcium from Yogurt, and supplement with Magnesium.
So, I should be good. But it would still be nice to find out what's known about these things. I thought UA-camrs were desperate to find subjects to SHOCK us with. But here they have apparently missed one 🙂
Perhaps they like to talk about these elements separately, to get four different subjects 🙂
Gil over at the NMS channel has somewhat addressed this and basically says that our normal salt for everyday table/cooking use should be the mixes like Salt Lite. The current public formulation is what is needed by those with particular kidney diseases, etc., who shouldn’t be eating potassium, not for the general population. Instead we’ve basically got it backwards-we market the mixes as specialist formulations for the elderly with hypertension, etc., when they actually represent a cheap and easy path to a common / standard formula and usage that would be an improvement in public health while straight sodium-only should be the specialist product.
Please do more video about this topic, I need the knowledge sir 😊
As an fyi, a routine blood test (basic or comprehensive metabolic panel) includes potassium level.
As far as I know, the basic one doesn't include the potassium level inside the actual cells.
@@saganspirit The difference between the two is that the CMP also includes tests for liver enzymes.
One of the functional medicine doctors that I follow says that potassium is protective to the kidneys and helps reduce kidney damage from higher sodium in the diet. Possibly due to the tiny capillaries that are highly concentrated in the kidneys. And easily damaged by high blood pressure?
Could you do a video on kidney? Health versus potassium levels?
Always appreciating your work!
As far as I know this is correct. The standard prescription of avoiding potassium in the case of kidney disease is more of a prescription of not pursuing it without the guidance of a doctor, the benefits of potassium even in those with kidney disease might override all other considerations, it just requires more guidance or care than with those without kidney disease.
Is there some inside/ongoing joke that I am not aware about having the caption text appear behind? because, you know, that's not how caption are supposed to work. We can't read it if you're blocking it
Awesome. For a while I was having my morning green tea with lemon juice, 1 tsp cream of tartar, 15-20g d-ribose, cordyceps powder.
Nice but subtle boost to my morning mental acuity.
Thanks for the reminder about the importance of potassium. Great presentation !!!
Dr. Linus Pauling postulated that the root cause of arterial plaque is a Vitamin C deficiency. Low levels of Vitamin C inhibit the body's ability to continuously repair the blood vessel walls with collagen, so the body actually generates plaque as a stand-in patch for micro tears. He pointed out that arterial plaque is found in areas of high stress, such as the arteries adjacent to the heart and not everywhere. As I recall he also pointed out that humans are one of the few mammals that cannot generate Vitamin C and mammals that can don't develop arterial plaque. He developed a protocol to eliminate arterial plaque through the consumption of Vitamin C other supplements. This approach obviously doesn't affect high blood pressure, but it would address the body's ability to handle it.
There is SO much vitamin C in like every beverage on the market. This seems hard to believe unless we need multitudes more than the RDA.
This theory does not play out in the empirical evidence.
Too much or for me more than little vitamin c does not feels good for me. because it helps convert faster maybe tyrosine or phenylalanine to dopamine and and i think this exhausts adrenaline too quickly and stresses the system. Too much adrenaline then to lower adrenaline makes a mess with low blood sugar.
On a related thought there is bh4 I have a guess it might be related to adrenal exhaustion it would be nice to know more about it if it is related.
Thanks man! Yep, I have been consuming more potassium since I came across Dr Bergs videos on potassium / sodium balance. Big difference when they are more balanced! Much calmer... better excercise recovery and many other subtle things I've noticed. Cheers! 🌱
My blood pressure is to high and I got an ACE inhibitor. In the manual there is a warning that you must not take potassium supplements or potassium salt, it is dangerous.
This medicine works well for me.
I take an arb...same instructions...I use k salt...no impact
If you take a drug that spares/retains potassium, you *really* should pay attention to the instructions.
Certain drugs like some ACE inhibitors cause the body to retain potassium, so as you consume it the concentration of K in your blood edges ever upwards. There will be no impact, until there's a really bad impact which can include death. Hyperkalemia is no joke.
Taurine is worth a look for reducing blood pressure. Physionic did a video about that, too.
@GregQchi thank you...I will certainly look into it.
That's because that medication increases your potassium, so taking more could lead to overdose.
Please do a whole video on potassium effects.
I swapped table salt with potassium chloride and it lowered my BP.
That was the only change you made? How long was it in between measurements?
im interested in the mechinism of potassium fyi.
Thanks for the feedback - much more there than explained in the video
Potatoes have the most potassium per gram iirc. 🥔
What if they had potassium tablets on lifeboats so that people could drink sea water but be able to dump the excess sodium? But no doubt that's been thought of before.
I doubt it's been thought of, you're probably the first.
Interesting idea but remember that drinking sea water is an incredibly excessive amount of sodium
I love adding a couple of dates to a protein smoothie, or just splitting them open and stuffing with butter. They are a pretty good source of that k stuff
I’ve heard some suggest adding potassium chloride to table salt to balance out the ratio better. So, when you salt your food you end up getting both electrolytes together and keeping the balance, thus mitigating negative effects of salt consumption. What do you think of that strategy?
I love nutritional yeast, 350 mg potassium for 60 calories 😊
Add these to the list:
Beef
Potato
Black beans
We have been using 50/50 light salt for a number of years.
I’ve had Hyperkalemia for 20 years now. That means I’m on a potassium restricted diet for most of that time. If my wife gets fries with a burger and I have a few of them, later that night I have muscle cramps so bad that I wake up screaming in agony, feels like my legs are going to break themselves then those muscles stay sore and twitchy for days.
As far as I can tell, it’s caused by taking nexium for gurd. If I stop taking it, I have super bad heartburn. Because I’m on a potassium restricted diet, if I get blood drawn the labs all show my potassium levels as spot on perfect.
To be frank, I miss bananas and potatoes etc. is there a better way to deal with gurd or at least a way I can get rid of hyperkalemia?
I have reverse osmosis water what should I do?
I'm not sure if what I'm doing makes sense. Once a day I take supplement of potassium and magnesium and teaspoon of lemon juice and pinch of salt.
Longer explanation of my situation:
I used to drink about 230 tds bottled water, and sometimes drink evaporated and cooled and carbon filtered water basically daionized water. And felt well, I don't have this water anymore. So I tried another bottled water and it feels very calcified to the taste I drank eat for some time I started to notice calcium plaque deposits on my teeth.
Recently I started to use reverse osmosis water I'm not sure if it is very good because it feels like it lacks minerals. I haven't had chance to measure it yet. It feels like 50 TDS. So we need to try to solve dissolve calcium deposit from previous water I start I have started taking lemon juice and potassium and magnesium as something that prevents calcium bind back after being dissolved. Also I add some salt to retain more water in the body. However I don't have much of this reverse osmosis water and I intend to buy more soon. And I i feel more on the dry-ish side of the body when I drink this reverse osmosis water. Maybe it is just because I don't have much. But I add salt to it to try make it retain more in the body.
Can I take potassium daily dose more than once a day? Can I take magnesium dose more than once a day? I consume dairy like Greek yogurt sometimes, is too little calcium is bad?
I've started using potassium chloride in addition to sodium chloride. people say potassium chloride is gross, but tbh, I can't taste the difference at all.
I have had lots of problems with potassium, for some reason it can build up in my system and cause whole body inflammation
No fast “food products”. Make your own meals, gradually cut down on added salt if you have high blood pressure, and replace with herbs, garlic, lemon, and other ways to add flavor. Cumin, cayenne,. Consider replacing your table salt with Beyond Sea Salt, which is half and half, NaCl and KCl.
Agreed. There are many different brands that offer 50/50 sodium/potassium salts though, so don't worry if you can't find that specific brand, any will do.
I find it’s easier to just get the all KCl stuff and try to moderate the balance myself, knowing how ubiquitous salt is. Like I can use a little bit of broth or a broth reduction in cooking, some condiments which contain some sodium, etc, and then also use a bunch of KCl in cooking or the finishing process, or seasoning to taste at the end, and know I’ve maintained a good ratio.
@Strongly disagree, Sodium is a cardiac electrolyte, it is necessary for the heart to beat. You shouldn’t be giving medical advice.
You’re going to be getting sodium from dietary sources even with no added salt, there’s no evidence a sodium deficiency is possible (barring some other specific health condition) if you’re eating whole foods, we only started adding salt to food really recently in evolutionary terms and that clearly wasn't driven by health reasons so much as taste and food preservation.
Assuming you don't have kidney disease, we can handle potassium way more easily than sodium, and this is somewhat reflected in the K/Na ratio found in most whole foods or the foods we know we should be eating more of (potassium tends to be *way* higher). And realistically you’re still going to be adding some sodium because a little bit enhances flavour in a way that potassium salt doesn’t. It's easier to control the ratio in whatever way you think might be advantageous (which at this point is all theoretical anyways) if you're controlling the levers yourself.
@@MelloCello55 no one is denying that. It’s called electrolyte BALANCE
🧂: 🥑
My fav subject🎉 potassium preaching
I've started taking reduced sodium salt (low salt) as a replacement to normal sea salt ,Celtic salt etc
The one I take is 66% Potassium Chloride and 33% salt
Cheap and easy .Some say it doesn't taste as good . But it doesn't taste much different.
I think it helps.
I've just started checking my Blood Pressure (BP) Which isn't too bad anyway
My arms BP is ok but the BP from my ankles is a little high . I probably should do a little cardio.
I was thinking about reduced sodium salt as a way to supplement potassium (I have hypertension but already consume plentiful servings of the potassium containing foods listed) I never add salt to my food but wonder if adding reduced sodium salt to my meals would be an overall benefit due to the potassium, or would make my blood pressure worse due to the sodium it still contains.
@@asprinklingofclouds air squats ,long fast walks or an exercise bike will help a lot along with loosing some weight and cutting down on calories . You could probably eat sardines and salads as much as you like .If you don't add any oils you'd loose heaps.
Watch some of his videos on blood pressure and buy a £20 blood Pressure monitor and check your BP 1st thing in the morning before you get up to see if you're doing the right things .
If you haven't already that is 😁
All due respect, you should be doing some cardio (to maintain Vo2 max) whether your blood pressure is high or not. As well as lifting. It doesn’t prevent everything and it doesn’t cure everything but it sure seems that it’s an extremely potent measure for long health span.
I'm sorry, but I believe that excess Na being a cause for high blood pressure is an old and simplistic medical fallacy, because Na is not only present in the blood but also spread in and around all the tissues' cells and in intersticial fluids. How else would you explain all the liquids we drink, that make it to our blood and excess excreted by kidneys while blood pressure still regulated? Where does Nitric Oxide fit in then? As well as some other mechanisms?
Nobody said salt was the *only* factor.
Can u get it from supplements?
Yes, banana, spinach, sweet potatoes (I like Boniato) and many other natural sources of Potassium.
Cream of Tartar is what I use. I have it with salt and magnesium glycinate in the morning. Look up sodium potassium pump.
Absolutely, I take a 1000 mg of potassium 3x a week, mostly to protect against muscle cramps but it also helps to lower BP.
@@bunyip250 interesting
I assume you are talking about potassium. It's challenging as some countries don't allow the sale of high-potassium containing supplements due to potentially dangerous effects if too much is ingested at any time. Not something to worry about with food though because it takes time to digest and extract potassium from food, so the increase in the blood is more gradual. You are better off just sticking to food: potatoes, sweet potatoes, potentially even dates. Pork has quite a bit potassium too I believe, but I don't quite remember. And meat in general has relatively good amounts of potassium if memory serves me right. But otherwise, what you can do is buy a salt that contains potassium chloride along with the standard sodium chloride. Buy a 50/50 or 30/70 potassium/sodium split and use that instead of table salt. If there is more potassium than sodium, the salt starts tasting weird, which I found out after having bought one that was 70/30 potassium/sodium. Some electrolyte powders also have potassium there, but often in small quantities as you don't lose too much of it during sweating and you also get sodium with those powders. In fact, that's the primary ingredient. The Prime drink also has a good amount, but the company is ran by scammers and incredibly dodgy individuals in general, so I wouldn't buy their products on moral grounds, but others can decide for themselves. It's like a sweet soft drink, but no sugar.
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It amazes me how little potassium I consume on an average day without supplementing. Even though I eat mostly beef and chicken.
Potassium is generally more available in plant foods.
@@k.h.6991 The only vegetables that I eat are ketchup, tomato sauce, peas, corn, green beans and potatoes. :)
@@k.h.6991 There's actually a decent amount of potassium in most meats, the problem is that people usually salt meat before eating it.
Shoot my bp is sky high and I have k at the top of the index and na is at the bottom.
That's the situation my dad is in, who has a degradation in renal function. Also, he takes Lisinopril for high bp, which elevates K ... it's a messy situation of interdependencies.
my wife has low blood pressure - any help here for her?
Lots of beer and McDonald’s usually does the trick
She is lucky!
No help is needed.
Play more video games and limit your enthusiasm for going to family functions.
@ZappyOh very low blood pressure can be life threatening
@@tempcadoganenright It was a joke ...
Don't go crazy on supplements, adjust your meals to be sure all bases are covered.
Munching on Pistachios as I watch this.......I crave & love Pistachios. Maybe I am low in Potassium.
Unless they are salted.