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I just want to hug you and tell you your doing great. I have over 40 years boating with a 300 ton offshore Master license and have learned a bunch in my career. You are also learning everyday. Fear is learning at it's highest level so embrace it but don't let it control you and don't quit. Add a 2nd bilge pump of at least 3000 gph and mount it higher then your working pump as a sleep better pump. I love the honesty you guys present, don't stop. You are rock stars. I posted before I finish the video and obviously you do have a second bilge pump and that's good. Don't forget when you're taking on water and you don't know where it's coming from and you're a ways away from help don't hesitate to call the Coast Guard make them aware that you are taking on water and that you're working on the situation make them aware of your location and that you're wearing life jackets, you can always call them and let them know that everything is under control. But if you really have a problem that you can't solve the extra 15 or 20 minutes that they're underway can make a big difference. I know it's hard to call for assistance it goes against a lot of our masculine mindsets but it beats sitting in your dinghy over the oil slick of your boat with a little handheld that won't reach help. We pay a crap load of taxes to have that organization ready to help us that's what they're there for.
@@SchoandJo when you were in the anchorage off the space center in Florida the night of the lunch and the night of the big storm delay, we were in the same spot also at anchor just a few boats away. We were heading from Vero Beach to Sanford FL.
You guys are so real. There's no pretense at all, which is so refreshing on these channels. Good on you - you are doing incredibly well. And hello from New Zealand!
Hang in there Jen, we know exacly how your feeling. Please take some comfort in knowing that your vessel can withstand ALOT more than you can. From everything I saw during the video it did not appear that you were ever in danger; uncomfortable and anxious, but not in danger. We had one day like this, (ONE) and the admiral put her foot down. We are now very fair weather cruisers because of that one experience. You guys are killing it!
We are also fair weather cruisers - it only takes one time and for sure this has impacted our future weather decisions (for the better though)... That is something that we tell ourselves too, Pivot can handle alot worse and it does help!
Learning from your mistakes. A big step forward. You have a healthy respect for the weather, and the seas. Things could have been much worse. You survived unharmed. You didn't sink. You identified a problem, and dealt with it. Secure for sea!!!! Every time you get underway!!! Otherwise, your stuff will develop a life of it's own, and you will have more messes to clean up. Or repairs to make. 20 years of Navy experience speaking here. Today was a good day. Nobody got hurt. However, it was challenging.
Felt for Jen here, you can feel really scared & helpless on the water. The "what if" factor is always present then shit goes wrong. Elliot seems a very capable captain.👏👏
We learn from others who have learned from others my grandpa used to say. He’s say also “you don’t know what you don’t know”. We learn as we go. And then sometimes, often times conditions change. We pivot, then pivot again. Thanks for being real. For being vulnerable. You are real life. Thank you.
Wow, we are again impressed by how you both jump in and figure things out with your boat and your route! And we appreciate your honesty showing your fears and doubts on your journey. Continuing to send up prayers and good thoughts for you both!
@@SchoandJo You're doing a great job. We enjoy watching you guys and feel like we're getting to know you because of how you do it. Keep up the good work.
Glad you made it to safer waters, and that you survived the Pamlico Sound. I remember once when we thought it was safe to get out on the water - a hurricane had passed us, going up along the coast; it turned around and chased us from Back Bay to Portsmouth, out on the Chesapeake Bay. The ship-to-shore radio antenna broke off & I had to retreive it from the bracket. Not an easy feat in 7-foot swells, and unbelievable winds. Everyone in our yacht club thought we had drowned (no radio, no visibility). We finally made it to the marina hours later the boat was covered with seaweed and mud to where the boat was totally unrecognizable. So I've survived a hurricane and many tornadoes over the years. May you have peaceful weather while on your Great Loop! Looking forward to each of your travel vlogs.
Ah Jen, I feel for you. I've had similar moments aboard Pivot's sister boat here in Canada. I've watched many of your videos and I totally understand the anxiety you sometimes feel in certain situations. I've accessed my resources to see how I can better regulate it. Early days but I'm learning a lot about where my anxiety comes from. Very brave to allow us too see you in your vulnerable moments.
Thank you for such a kind and thoughtful response. I too have been accessing my resources to work on my anxiety in hopes of understanding and regulating it too. It's not an easy task, but definitely worth while! My anxiety isn't going to change overnight and requires a lot of hard work, but each day I'm showing up in hopes of being less anxious. Thank you for sharing a piece of your story, so I know that I am not the only one who has similar struggles ❤️
@@SchoandJo I too, show up everyday. The alternative is to miss out on amazing experiences. It's easy for those who don't show up at all to belittle and invalidate us. In my case, a life of perfectionism and my need to control the unknown seems an area of investigation and discovery. It can be very isolating to feel this way, especially since I'm a highly capable person in so many ways. My husband is amazing with all this. I get the feeling Elliot is too. Hugs to you, sistah!
Hang in there guys! Boat life can be a challenge but you learn from the experiences. Pivot is a good boat and she won't let you down. In my 43 Viking, I had 3 Bilge pumps. One forward, in the lowest part of the Bilge at rest, One midships which sat about 2 inches above that, and another one at the transom to pump out as we were underway. I still would worry when i had water in the Bilge... The hugs are great at the end of the day like that... Maybe a little something to calm the nerves as well!
We can never have too many pumps... I think we should have one more as a piece of mind but we have two automatic right now and a couple of manual pumps. Haha definitely needed something to calm our minds at the end of this day 😁
@@SchoandJo Now that you are not taking on water, you may want to check the hoses from your scuppers, one may be bad which would explain taking in water in a swell..
Oh Jenn I know I would have been feeling the same feelings…that was a rough cruise for a while there! I’m glad it got so much smoother. Elliott, you were so calm under the stress of the rough water and the water coming in…I’m sure that helped Jenn…I’m so glad you both got the water out. You two rock and are doing great on this unpredictable journey you are taking. Keep traveling safe and enjoy.
Poor Jen! Hang in there! That was rough, but you made it through. Y'all are doing great! These tough passages make you stronger, and believe it or not, it'll be fun to look back on down the road. Good on you too Elliott, that's a tough time when your partner is scared. Good trip you two!
Sending y’all a hug, especially you J Pueblo! ❤️(We need to hear the story behind this nickname) Appreciate your honesty and sharing the highs and lows!
Another thoroughly enjoyable episode, the sea can be frightening, just keep your level headed approach and hopefully your anxiety will decrease as your experience grows, stay safe guys, I have no doubt that you will overcome your doubts, fair winds.
Been there on our old Defever many years ago. The trip to Ocracoke can be hairy. However, rough voyages make great boat stories as long as you make it back to port. This will help prepare you for the trip up the Jersey coast and the Great Lakes. Both passages require serious preparation and confidence in your systems. You guys are doing great! So glad you are taking this opportunity while you are young. You will not regret it for a moment.
Thanks Ed! Totally right on about the stories and whats to come. So far we've made it through Jersey with some strategic planning and the Great Lakes are coming up!
Boating omg, its awesome and it is terrifying! We came through a storm in Norfolk 2 weeks ago that had us surfing 6 foot waves with absolutely no visibility in our trawler. We have been boating for 50 years and I have never been so terrified! We made it to an anchorage and spent a bumpy but secure night. Even after all these years it can be very scary but the good days mostly outweigh the bad days. Every day is a learning experience...you are both doing great! You have good heads on your shoulders and can work things through. Enjoy the loop. We did it 8 years ago and never regretted it.
@@SchoandJo Yes it happens to all of us sooner or later. Boating...beautiful days, interesting people, work, terror, $$$, adventure, but worth it! I hope you enjoy MIchigan, our former home state. Great ports on the west shore.
Jo, every time you experience rough water, you will learn to trust the boat more and more. The fear factor will abate. Rough water will never be comfortable, but you will learn to cope with it better.
I understand that you are on a budget ... but, just one bilge pump? It's an area where redundancy is a beautiful thing. Two is better, three is a charm! 🙂 Jen, When at the edge of your experience/comfort zone being a bit anxious is okay--perhaps even desired. Being overly confident (cocky) often leads to bad endings. You and Elliot made solid decisions under challenging conditions--well done!
@@SchoandJo We thought our bilge was working fine. After your video we went down and tested more. We dumped water in the bilge and it did turn on, but it seems to need to prime. We also tested tge manual bilge, located in the main door step by the lower helm in our 1991 Marine Trader 34...works like a charm. Having said that, as part of the 48v lithium/solar conversion underway at dock, we will be adding a new pump. And a second for redundancy per other posters recommendations.
Hi Jenn and Elliott, Quite a day. Glad you weathered it! Can you at some point explain exactly how the water was getting in and how that problem could be fixed? Thanks, ATB Charlie
The bad days make the good days great. Just know if the boat was in danger of sinking you would not be able to bail or pump the water out faster then it was coming in. Automatic Bilge pumps have always been problematic because of the water level switch.. Look into a pump on a timer. You can set it to come on every 30,60 minutes. Always learning , Next time it will be no big deal. Best loop channel on UA-cam.
You two handled this like a seasoned pro. One thing though.....My wife and I decided we will stick to RVing. lol. Thank goodness you are safe, and the boat is okay. This was a scary one, but also a very good one. Take care, and stay safe.
Haha we hope you don't quit boating because of this! There are quite a few things that aligned for this day to happen and a few of them were avoidable if we made better decisions. You'll have a blast, or stick to RVing and have a blast there - its a win win :)
I have heard (never seen) that some people have installed a tee, valve and a hose to the bottom of the bilge, on the fresh water pickup hose. That way you can run the engine, shut off the thru hull valve, open the added valve to suck the water out of the bilge thru the newly added hose.
A positive end to an unbelievable journey. The bad part is it is a terror to live through but the best part is that you made and learned a lot bout yourself and the boat. Enjoy
We had a 25 ft. Sea Ray when I lived at Carolina Beach. I had a free wet slip but no shore power. One time after a bad storm, both bilge pumps had failed. The batteries were dead. The float switches were always failing. So this happened several times. It about sank once. So I've been there. Had to replace the oil pan after that one bad incident. The salt water ate it. I used to go 50 miles off shore in that boat to fish. Been there. I think I'd have a 3rd pump the next time and a buzzer on the console up top. Float switches were my nemesis!!!!!
I think they call the protected harbor at Ocracoke "Silver Lake." My uncle was a Methodist Preacher on Ocracoke and across the inlet on now abandoned Portsmouth Island. He used to ride the mail boat over to Portsmouth Village.
Glad you guys are ok 👍🏼. Boat life is unpredictable !!! You have to be able to roll with conditions living the boat life 🙏🏻 I’ve been in a few scary situations about 50 miles offshore. Always Stay calm and try to think clearly. Happy boating guys 😎
I enjoy your videos. This video is the one leaving Ocracoke. I have never heard of water entering the boat via the anchor locker drain. Ugh. I learn from you both. My trawler does not have a high water alarm, based on this video will put in a separate level switch for a high level alarm. This video is an older one. Will do some Scho and Jo binge watching. Thanks
Thanks for watching! I think our final thoughts are that the water was coming in from our bilge pump exit hole and not the anchor locker (although a minor amount could have been coming there). Essentially, on old trawlers like this, the hole is close to the waterline, and in inclement seas, when you bow into waves, it is submerged for short periods of time. If our bilge pump was working, it would be no issue, and we're happy you are installing a high-level alarm and switch! That is a huge safety enhancement!
Just a note on terminology re "leeward shore" at 8:36, you have it backward. The leeward shore is the downwind shore, where the wind is going, not the direction it is coming from.
It’s all related to the point of reference and since the leeward shore is more calm, the leeward shore would be on the side of the wind. Conversely the Windward shore would be the side with more fetch and typically rougher. I think if you put the point of reference as the individual shores, it make sense. However if your reference point is pivot then that’s true. Pivot is heading Windward to arrive at the leeward shore 😁
@@SchoandJo Well, no. Pivot is heading to windward and the shore behind you is the leeward shore. A sailboat sailing up wind is working to or "beating to windward'. The shore toward which the wind is blowing is the lee shore; which you do not want to be pushed towards. Hence the cautions never to be caught on a lee shore in a blow. Perhaps Google the term. Just trying to clarify terms here.
Hmm according to Wikipedia - "Although the terms are often confused, "the lee shore" is different from "a leeward shore" based on the reference point from which the shore is viewed." It sounds like to be more clear, we should have said we are heading windward. For the point of reference of land ( what we were thinking) that is the lee shore (i.e. the lee shore of the land mass), its the protected shore. From the point of view of pivot, the lee shore is the shore we would be blown onto and it would not have been bueno. Thanks for letting us know!
Pamlico and Albemarle Sounds and the Neuse River all have shallow depths and open fetch in some directions, making your experience with "square waves" (short interval, steep) fairly frequent in those waters. The blunt bow typical of most trawlers means heading right into the chop may feel like hitting something solid, over and over. An adjustment for such conditions might be to experiment with a zig-zag course upwind, which could mean accepting a bit of rolling, but with less abrupt jarring. It would require securing loose stuff of course... a lesson already learned. But sometimes it is too rough for any comfortable course. I really enjoy your videos and seeing you learning boat life as you go.
No one intends to go out in bad weather,You guys pivoted very well .thank good ness for alarms. one of my habits is when i do my hourly boat check is to lift the floor board and have a quick look great video .thanks for sharing
So sorry you had a bad day and pretty scary if you ask me, but thanks for sharing all of that it really makes it real. I hope the further you go the better it gets and more enjoyable. Get some much deserved rest and get back out there. Keep building that confidence.
You created a Venturi effect in your forward drain. The water starts to siphon inward. I did the exact same thing coming up from Tampa. Water started pouring out of the anchor locker. I was bashing into waves same as you.
You both are doing great! The only way to overcome your free is to do it! In time you will be less nervous because experience will till you that your boat is capable as well as your skills!
I know this is a couple of years later, but I've seen plenty of scared people and Jen, you really don't seem all that scared. I think you were extremely frustrated and mad that things were going really crappy. Maybe fear that the adventure might be a dumb idea? But hell, when things went to crap, you kept on swinging and working the problem, which is not what scared people do. That's what brave people do. Y'all make a great team.
Assuming you know where the water was coming from is less than ideal. For a simple check you could put a weight on your bilge pump switch and and observe if there is still water coming in. That way you at least have an idea if the pump is running too often without you knowing.
Thanks Robert! We don't have a float switch on our pump, but we do have an override manual on as one of our breakers. We had it manually turned on this entire situation 😁
Water coming in without knowing where and why is scary. Seems you had a float switch that was going bad which is why it worked and then it didn't but did you figure out where all that water was coming into the boat?
I feel for you. Reminds me of similar crossing of Mobile bay and the gulf. As they say, embrace the suck-it gets better. When you stop looping, you’ll wonder what to do with all your time, because boat life takes every minute when you’re doing it! I’ve asked many times: ‘What can happen next?’
Elliot, Had the same water problem on our 34MT. Took me months to figure out where it was coming from. Your right, it’s coming from the anchor locker. Anytime we were in rough water the bilge would fill. Seems the water comes in and finds its way down by the bow thruster and down to the bilge. On another note not sure if you guys ever saw the movie Captain Ron, should be mandatory, “if its going to happen its going to happen out there”
You should buy a auxiliary pump. I'm going to try the loop this Sept. My boat is a 30' island seas steel craft 1963. So for my peace of mind I bought a extra pump
I tried to send a picture of the pump but it's gas operated generally it's cost around $285.00 and it will pump around 30 games. And you never know when there may be someone else who may need a pump out
Glad you got your pumps working. As for it being rough try tacking(zig-zagging) to find a better ride. Sometimes slowing down will help. You probably need an 8-10 foot breaking wave on your beam before the boat would be at peril. As they say the boat will take more than you will. Loose items down below can injure you, be careful with unsecure stuff that can cut you or thump you.
We tried zig-zagging first but we couldn't get rid of those waves occasionally on the beam - we are very happy the boat is seaworthy it helped us calm down quite a bit. We definitely now have a few more items on our checklist for securing before we go underway - thanks Jan!
U done good! Handed all problems well! You have come a long! long! way from when you started. Prepare to go to sea, whatever can fall, will fall, so secure it. i.e. coffee pot and plants bino's cameras etc For the coffee, do you have an air pot, that thing you press the top and get coffee out of at meetings and conference's. l. Fill up air pot before you leave port. good to have a hot drink .when all else is sub optimal On a boat you never stop learning! YOU DONE GOOD!
Thanks so much Lance!! We do have a coffee pot like that… luckily we didn’t have glass just a bit of a mess. But now it’s on our tie down list! We appreciate the kindness 😁
That’s pretty much an average day of chop and short intervals in the Great Lakes, hard to find many consistently flat days, guys handled it great. Love the videos
We will definitely be picking and choosing 1-2ft swell days with long periods (hopefully in favorable directions) on the Lakes. If we have to wait a week for one great day that's alright with us 😁
Wow. I know that's from 2 months ago, but I've seen that look on Jen's face on my wife Debbie's face. Crossing the Pamlico. It's a cagey beast. That feeling when you see that much water in your bilge... That will leave a scar. Someone else said - Nobody got hurt. Yes. It was a good day. Next video you'll probably cover all the bugs at Tuckahoe Point! 😮 Bleh!!
Ooh darn, we’ll I bet we get what Debbie felt… we just learn and get better from there! And haha we had a lovely time at Tuckahoe Point… maybe the bugs were taking a vacation?
You dodged a bullet! Although your bilge pump is working, float switch wasn't...it is critical to check the bilge pump and float switch manually every time depart. As a marine mechanic I frequently service these CHB Albin Hershine 36/37 all the time...bilge pump discharge thru hull is so low, one way check valve is often installed in the loop which gets caught end up blocking the discharge hose.
Thats exactly what this was I think, the thru hull is very low and it was allowing water ingress. Our new bilge pump came with a one way check valve and it has been much better!
@@SchoandJo Yup most likely . IDK which bilge pump you got, but one way check valve is not supposed to be used & not recommended. Don't get skimpy on bilge pumps, stay away from cheap China products. Next haulout, consider relocating discharge thru hull higher.
Just looking at the counters behind you on some of your screen shots it looks like ya'll really need to look at your "rig for sea check list". You've got way too much stuff that is not strapped down or bungee corded if you like. Way too much stuff that should be stowed in lockers or on the deck somewhere when underway. Probably need more tie downs on the dingy as well if it bounced in the cradle. When she's rockin' and rollin' is not the time to find out you've got a problem like that. Water in the people tank is a fundamentally unsound underway scenario but you looked like you did it right. Have a plan -- work the problems as they appear and move on - don't bite off more than you can chew. Have a pro check what you've fixed at the earliest opportunity. Even this day will be one of the good old days; one of these days.
That is probably the most concerning thing that you can encounter... You managed it the best you could. Keeping your cool and the finger off the panic button allows you to think clearly. Jo...stay loose...I know it's not easy..we had an engine failure in five to six foot seas..it wasn't fun..but like you guys,we dropped th hook and called BoatUS for a tow. Like you...we had a happy ending...keep smiling!!
I am from Holland , so i don't know if i can explain this in english. Your screw is closed up with some kind of fat and that is probably leaking. It's or a fat coard or a tube with fat in it , that you have to turn to get fat into your screw to make it water tied . Maybe you know about this , good luck .
That could be it... We think it was our bilge pump outlet hose since there was no backflow and its close to the waterline... Thanks for commenting Martin - your English is perfectly fine 😁
Yep… we now have a very thorough list. Until that huge wave comes from a new direction and that thing that never should move, moved. Then the list gets updated 😁
I don't mean to be pedantic, but at 8:36 your labelling shows a fundamental misunderstanding of the term "lee shore." That misunderstanding could get you, or someone trying to learn from you, in real trouble. You were attempting to get into the LEE of a shore to WINDWARD. The LEE SHORE is the dangerous shore downwind of you. It is the shore on which you will fetch up if you are blown down on it. I really enjoy y'alls' channel and following your journey.
Hi John! Thanks for following along. It was confusing which we should have made more clear. The terms windward and leeward are all relative. Our thinking is always in terms of anchoring and then in terms of the land mass. In that though process, the land mass has a windward shore and leeward shore, and you want to be on the leeward shore (protected shore) of the land mass. HOWEVER this is not normally the way people think about windward/leeward and thus leads to confusion (although not incorrect). Pivot was heading to Windward away from Pivot's Lee Shore and towards the Windward Shore of the Pamlico Sound (which is the perspective that you are saying, which is also correct and probably what we should have said 😁)
This video is a couple of months old and maybe everything's been fixed but no water should get from the anchor locker to the bilge Elliott. The hole at the bow is to drain the locker not fill the bilge. I'd be more concerned about the water coming aboard than securing the coffee machine. You've said you must fix your auto bilge pump, why not wire a buzzer to it so you hear it every time it switches on, if it comes on often enough to annoy you there's a problem, the only water coming aboard should be an occasional drip from some types of prop shaft gland. Happy boating :-)
Months later, we are pretty sure water was coming in from the bilge pump outlet hose. It didn't have a backflow valve and is pretty close to our water line so it's most likely to be the culprit. We have since fixed that but in an unrelated note our only water intrusion (i think) is at our rudder shaft seal which is a small leak but we will handle it at our next haul out. That's a good idea for a buzzer alarm though!
@@SchoandJo That's great Elliott, yes the pump outlet will do it, a non return valve can work but may also reduce pump flow, putting an inverted "U"in the hose just before the outlet that lifts the hose vertically a foot or so is sometimes better. Happy cruising.
Jen, I started crying, seeing how scared you were. Hang in there, you made it! Thank you, Elliot for your calmness and support of Jen. I love watching your very real-life videos. Keep ‘em coming!
Your videos are awesome and ur narrative is 2nd to none. However clearly Jen has issues with waves and rocking of ur vessel which unfortunately is part of boating. The roughest is yet to come. You can routinely see 4 to 6 foot waves in the great lakes. Sadly u may want to consider a motorhome instead. Maybe boating is not for her. Be safe and good luck u guys.
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I just want to hug you and tell you your doing great. I have over 40 years boating with a 300 ton offshore Master license and have learned a bunch in my career. You are also learning everyday. Fear is learning at it's highest level so embrace it but don't let it control you and don't quit. Add a 2nd bilge pump of at least 3000 gph and mount it higher then your working pump as a sleep better pump. I love the honesty you guys present, don't stop. You are rock stars.
I posted before I finish the video and obviously you do have a second bilge pump and that's good.
Don't forget when you're taking on water and you don't know where it's coming from and you're a ways away from help don't hesitate to call the Coast Guard make them aware that you are taking on water and that you're working on the situation make them aware of your location and that you're wearing life jackets, you can always call them and let them know that everything is under control. But if you really have a problem that you can't solve the extra 15 or 20 minutes that they're underway can make a big difference.
I know it's hard to call for assistance it goes against a lot of our masculine mindsets but it beats sitting in your dinghy over the oil slick of your boat with a little handheld that won't reach help. We pay a crap load of taxes to have that organization ready to help us that's what they're there for.
That makes a lot of sense Scott - didn't come to mind in the moment but absolutely would have been a smart course of action. Thanks for sharing!
@@SchoandJo when you were in the anchorage off the space center in Florida the night of the lunch and the night of the big storm delay, we were in the same spot also at anchor just a few boats away. We were heading from Vero Beach to Sanford FL.
You guys are so real. There's no pretense at all, which is so refreshing on these channels. Good on you - you are doing incredibly well. And hello from New Zealand!
Thanks! Just always try to keep it real
Hang in there Jen, we know exacly how your feeling. Please take some comfort in knowing that your vessel can withstand ALOT more than you can. From everything I saw during the video it did not appear that you were ever in danger; uncomfortable and anxious, but not in danger. We had one day like this, (ONE) and the admiral put her foot down. We are now very fair weather cruisers because of that one experience. You guys are killing it!
You guys also please be careful on the upcoming
Albermarle Sound. Much like the Pamlico it is no joke
Thanks! For the callout - we took a much different approach to the Albermarle (what we should have done for the Pamlico ) :)
We are also fair weather cruisers - it only takes one time and for sure this has impacted our future weather decisions (for the better though)... That is something that we tell ourselves too, Pivot can handle alot worse and it does help!
Learning from your mistakes. A big step forward. You have a healthy respect for the weather, and the seas.
Things could have been much worse. You survived unharmed. You didn't sink. You identified a problem, and dealt with it.
Secure for sea!!!! Every time you get underway!!! Otherwise, your stuff will develop a life of it's own, and you will have more messes to clean up. Or repairs to make. 20 years of Navy experience speaking here.
Today was a good day. Nobody got hurt. However, it was challenging.
Nobody got hurt - thats definitely the most important factor about the day! Definitely learned a lot from the experience
Felt for Jen here, you can feel really scared & helpless on the water. The "what if" factor is always present then shit goes wrong. Elliot seems a very capable captain.👏👏
Thanks so much! Just trying to learn and stay as calm as possible!
We learn from others who have learned from others my grandpa used to say. He’s say also “you don’t know what you don’t know”. We learn as we go. And then sometimes, often times conditions change. We pivot, then pivot again.
Thanks for being real. For being vulnerable. You are real life.
Thank you.
Thank YOU! It's tough sharing the failures but they are all learning experiences in the end. Thanks for watching!
Wow, we are again impressed by how you both jump in and figure things out with your boat and your route! And we appreciate your honesty showing your fears and doubts on your journey. Continuing to send up prayers and good thoughts for you both!
Thats our goal - keep it real and just show it how it is! Thanks for the support!
@@SchoandJo You're doing a great job. We enjoy watching you guys and feel like we're getting to know you because of how you do it. Keep up the good work.
Glad you made it to safer waters, and that you survived the Pamlico Sound. I remember once when we thought it was safe to get out on the water - a hurricane had passed us, going up along the coast; it turned around and chased us from Back Bay to Portsmouth, out on the Chesapeake Bay. The ship-to-shore radio antenna broke off & I had to retreive it from the bracket. Not an easy feat in 7-foot swells, and unbelievable winds. Everyone in our yacht club thought we had drowned (no radio, no visibility). We finally made it to the marina hours later the boat was covered with seaweed and mud to where the boat was totally unrecognizable. So I've survived a hurricane and many tornadoes over the years.
May you have peaceful weather while on your Great Loop! Looking forward to each of your travel vlogs.
Wow, that's crazy Bob... Can't say I want to experience that but I bet it makes for great stories now-a-days..
Ah Jen, I feel for you. I've had similar moments aboard Pivot's sister boat here in Canada. I've watched many of your videos and I totally understand the anxiety you sometimes feel in certain situations. I've accessed my resources to see how I can better regulate it. Early days but I'm learning a lot about where my anxiety comes from. Very brave to allow us too see you in your vulnerable moments.
Thank you for such a kind and thoughtful response. I too have been accessing my resources to work on my anxiety in hopes of understanding and regulating it too. It's not an easy task, but definitely worth while! My anxiety isn't going to change overnight and requires a lot of hard work, but each day I'm showing up in hopes of being less anxious. Thank you for sharing a piece of your story, so I know that I am not the only one who has similar struggles ❤️
@@SchoandJo I too, show up everyday. The alternative is to miss out on amazing experiences. It's easy for those who don't show up at all to belittle and invalidate us. In my case, a life of perfectionism and my need to control the unknown seems an area of investigation and discovery. It can be very isolating to feel this way, especially since I'm a highly capable person in so many ways. My husband is amazing with all this. I get the feeling Elliot is too. Hugs to you, sistah!
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Awesome guys, you are the real deal, keep up the great work, we all appreciate your commitment to real sharing!
Thanks for the support Carl!
Hang in there guys! Boat life can be a challenge but you learn from the experiences. Pivot is a good boat and she won't let you down. In my 43 Viking, I had 3 Bilge pumps. One forward, in the lowest part of the Bilge at rest, One midships which sat about 2 inches above that, and another one at the transom to pump out as we were underway. I still would worry when i had water in the Bilge... The hugs are great at the end of the day like that... Maybe a little something to calm the nerves as well!
We can never have too many pumps... I think we should have one more as a piece of mind but we have two automatic right now and a couple of manual pumps. Haha definitely needed something to calm our minds at the end of this day 😁
@@SchoandJo Now that you are not taking on water, you may want to check the hoses from your scuppers, one may be bad which would explain taking in water in a swell..
Oh Jenn I know I would have been feeling the same feelings…that was a rough cruise for a while there! I’m glad it got so much smoother. Elliott, you were so calm under the stress of the rough water and the water coming in…I’m sure that helped Jenn…I’m so glad you both got the water out. You two rock and are doing great on this unpredictable journey you are taking. Keep traveling safe and enjoy.
Thanks Suzanne... we couldn't do it without each others support. Cheers to better days!! 😁
Poor Jen! Hang in there! That was rough, but you made it through. Y'all are doing great! These tough passages make you stronger, and believe it or not, it'll be fun to look back on down the road. Good on you too Elliott, that's a tough time when your partner is scared.
Good trip you two!
Thanks George! It was a tough day but we persevered and learned from it!
Sending y’all a hug, especially you J Pueblo! ❤️(We need to hear the story behind this nickname) Appreciate your honesty and sharing the highs and lows!
Definitely will have to share it - a short story but we'd have to go way back 😂
Oh Jenn, I would have cried too. That would be terrifying. You all did good. Love the advice to not make a bad situation worse.
Love seeing the wild life from the water into the land.great shot on the deer
Thanks Frank!
Another thoroughly enjoyable episode, the sea can be frightening, just keep your level headed approach and hopefully your anxiety will decrease as your experience grows, stay safe guys, I have no doubt that you will overcome your doubts, fair winds.
Thanks so much Amanda - we appreciate your support. These are all just opportunities to learn and grow...
Been there on our old Defever many years ago. The trip to Ocracoke can be hairy. However, rough voyages make great boat stories as long as you make it back to port. This will help prepare you for the trip up the Jersey coast and the Great Lakes. Both passages require serious preparation and confidence in your systems. You guys are doing great! So glad you are taking this opportunity while you are young. You will not regret it for a moment.
Thanks Ed! Totally right on about the stories and whats to come. So far we've made it through Jersey with some strategic planning and the Great Lakes are coming up!
Boating omg, its awesome and it is terrifying! We came through a storm in Norfolk 2 weeks ago that had us surfing 6 foot waves with absolutely no visibility in our trawler. We have been boating for 50 years and I have never been so terrified! We made it to an anchorage and spent a bumpy but secure night. Even after all these years it can be very scary but the good days mostly outweigh the bad days. Every day is a learning experience...you are both doing great! You have good heads on your shoulders and can work things through. Enjoy the loop. We did it 8 years ago and never regretted it.
Wow… I guess it can happen to any of us, glad you all got in safely. We are enjoying the loop (as a whole so far) 😁😁
@@SchoandJo Yes it happens to all of us sooner or later. Boating...beautiful days, interesting people, work, terror, $$$, adventure, but worth it! I hope you enjoy MIchigan, our former home state. Great ports on the west shore.
Jo, every time you experience rough water, you will learn to trust the boat more and more. The fear factor will abate. Rough water will never be comfortable, but you will learn to cope with it better.
SCARY!!! But you worked through it! Good job! Bless you on your way. ❤
I understand that you are on a budget ... but, just one bilge pump? It's an area where redundancy is a beautiful thing. Two is better, three is a charm! 🙂
Jen, When at the edge of your experience/comfort zone being a bit anxious is okay--perhaps even desired. Being overly confident (cocky) often leads to bad endings. You and Elliot made solid decisions under challenging conditions--well done!
Might be adding a third one at some point! Thanks for the comment Bill!
@@SchoandJo We thought our bilge was working fine. After your video we went down and tested more. We dumped water in the bilge and it did turn on, but it seems to need to prime. We also tested tge manual bilge, located in the main door step by the lower helm in our 1991 Marine Trader 34...works like a charm. Having said that, as part of the 48v lithium/solar conversion underway at dock, we will be adding a new pump. And a second for redundancy per other posters recommendations.
@@sandraburkholder627 Good idea! That's awesome that you are testing your system!
Hi Jenn and Elliott, Quite a day. Glad you weathered it! Can you at some point explain exactly how the water was getting in and how that problem could be fixed? Thanks, ATB Charlie
The bad days make the good days great. Just know if the boat was in danger of sinking you would not be able to bail or pump the water out faster then it was coming in. Automatic Bilge pumps have always been problematic because of the water level switch.. Look into a pump on a timer. You can set it to come on every 30,60 minutes. Always learning , Next time it will be no big deal. Best loop channel on UA-cam.
Thanks so much Phillip - yep that was our thought process too reg. the water. Thanks for sharing!
You two handled this like a seasoned pro. One thing though.....My wife and I decided we will stick to RVing. lol. Thank goodness you are safe, and the boat is okay. This was a scary one, but also a very good one. Take care, and stay safe.
Haha we hope you don't quit boating because of this! There are quite a few things that aligned for this day to happen and a few of them were avoidable if we made better decisions. You'll have a blast, or stick to RVing and have a blast there - its a win win :)
Well done for keeping cool and solving the immediate problems.
Thanks Nelson 🤙
I have heard (never seen) that some people have installed a tee, valve and a hose to the bottom of the bilge, on the fresh water pickup hose. That way you can run the engine, shut off the thru hull valve, open the added valve to suck the water out of the bilge thru the newly added hose.
Hmm thats pretty interesting! Seems like it's one way to quickly remove water coming into the bilge!
A positive end to an unbelievable journey. The bad part is it is a terror to live through but the best part is that you made and learned a lot bout yourself and the boat. Enjoy
Right on! Totally agree 👍
Wow! What a day. You both pulled through. Ollie sure knew something was going on that wasn't right.
Yep we were feeling for Ollie! Long day but atleast it’s in the past and we learned from it 😁
We had a 25 ft. Sea Ray when I lived at Carolina Beach. I had a free wet slip but no shore power. One time after a bad storm, both bilge pumps had failed. The batteries were dead. The float switches were always failing. So this happened several times. It about sank once. So I've been there. Had to replace the oil pan after that one bad incident. The salt water ate it. I used to go 50 miles off shore in that boat to fish. Been there. I think I'd have a 3rd pump the next time and a buzzer on the console up top. Float switches were my nemesis!!!!!
Whoa thats intense! Glad you didn't fully sink lol...
All that water aboard is indeed scary. Since my entire cruising experience has been in sailboats, that weather would have been beautiful and fast.
I think they call the protected harbor at Ocracoke "Silver Lake." My uncle was a Methodist Preacher on Ocracoke and across the inlet on now abandoned Portsmouth Island. He used to ride the mail boat over to Portsmouth Village.
Oh thats super cool Will!
Glad you guys are ok 👍🏼. Boat life is unpredictable !!! You have to be able to roll with conditions living the boat life 🙏🏻 I’ve been in a few scary situations about 50 miles offshore. Always Stay calm and try to think clearly.
Happy boating guys 😎
Totally right!
I enjoy your videos. This video is the one leaving Ocracoke. I have never heard of water entering the boat via the anchor locker drain. Ugh. I learn from you both. My trawler does not have a high water alarm, based on this video will put in a separate level switch for a high level alarm. This video is an older one. Will do some Scho and Jo binge watching. Thanks
Thanks for watching! I think our final thoughts are that the water was coming in from our bilge pump exit hole and not the anchor locker (although a minor amount could have been coming there). Essentially, on old trawlers like this, the hole is close to the waterline, and in inclement seas, when you bow into waves, it is submerged for short periods of time. If our bilge pump was working, it would be no issue, and we're happy you are installing a high-level alarm and switch! That is a huge safety enhancement!
Just a note on terminology re "leeward shore" at 8:36, you have it backward. The leeward shore is the downwind shore, where the wind is going, not the direction it is coming from.
It’s all related to the point of reference and since the leeward shore is more calm, the leeward shore would be on the side of the wind. Conversely the Windward shore would be the side with more fetch and typically rougher. I think if you put the point of reference as the individual shores, it make sense. However if your reference point is pivot then that’s true. Pivot is heading Windward to arrive at the leeward shore 😁
@@SchoandJo Well, no. Pivot is heading to windward and the shore behind you is the leeward shore. A sailboat sailing up wind is working to or "beating to windward'. The shore toward which the wind is blowing is the lee shore; which you do not want to be pushed towards. Hence the cautions never to be caught on a lee shore in a blow. Perhaps Google the term. Just trying to clarify terms here.
Hmm according to Wikipedia -
"Although the terms are often confused, "the lee shore" is different from "a leeward shore" based on the reference point from which the shore is viewed."
It sounds like to be more clear, we should have said we are heading windward. For the point of reference of land ( what we were thinking) that is the lee shore (i.e. the lee shore of the land mass), its the protected shore. From the point of view of pivot, the lee shore is the shore we would be blown onto and it would not have been bueno. Thanks for letting us know!
@@woodside63 btw I appreciate you helping our terminology… it’s important to get it right!
Pamlico and Albemarle Sounds and the Neuse River all have shallow depths and open fetch in some directions, making your experience with "square waves" (short interval, steep) fairly frequent in those waters. The blunt bow typical of most trawlers means heading right into the chop may feel like hitting something solid, over and over. An adjustment for such conditions might be to experiment with a zig-zag course upwind, which could mean accepting a bit of rolling, but with less abrupt jarring. It would require securing loose stuff of course... a lesson already learned. But sometimes it is too rough for any comfortable course.
I really enjoy your videos and seeing you learning boat life as you go.
Thanks so much! I don’t think I’ve ever thought of our blunt bow, but makes total sense!
No one intends to go out in bad weather,You guys pivoted very well .thank good ness for alarms. one of my habits is when i do my hourly boat check is to lift the floor board and have a quick look great video .thanks for sharing
Might add that to ours… we do check sporadically throughout long cruises now! If we can do one thing, it’s Pivot 😂😂 thanks for watching Bill!
Hi Guys, glad you're safe. Tomorrow and every day after will be Better and Better ‼️
Haha today we were “barelyafloat” 😂 jkjk. Thanks for the support though Steve, it means a lot 🤙
So sorry you had a bad day and pretty scary if you ask me, but thanks for sharing all of that it really makes it real. I hope the further you go the better it gets and more enjoyable. Get some much deserved rest and get back out there. Keep building that confidence.
Thanks Kevin!
You created a Venturi effect in your forward drain. The water starts to siphon inward. I did the exact same thing coming up from Tampa. Water started pouring out of the anchor locker. I was bashing into waves same as you.
Ahh! Not a real issue as long as your pumps are working 🤦♂️
You both are doing great! The only way to overcome your free is to do it! In time you will be less nervous because experience will till you that your boat is capable as well as your skills!
Fear....sorry
Tell...lol
Haha we got what you meant... thanks!
Wow. That was scary for a bit. Jen I would of been scared to death too. Good job keeping it together.
I know this is a couple of years later, but I've seen plenty of scared people and Jen, you really don't seem all that scared. I think you were extremely frustrated and mad that things were going really crappy. Maybe fear that the adventure might be a dumb idea? But hell, when things went to crap, you kept on swinging and working the problem, which is not what scared people do. That's what brave people do. Y'all make a great team.
Thank you!
Assuming you know where the water was coming from is less than ideal. For a simple check you could put a weight on your bilge pump switch and and observe if there is still water coming in. That way you at least have an idea if the pump is running too often without you knowing.
Thanks Robert! We don't have a float switch on our pump, but we do have an override manual on as one of our breakers. We had it manually turned on this entire situation 😁
Water coming in without knowing where and why is scary. Seems you had a float switch that was going bad which is why it worked and then it didn't but did you figure out where all that water was coming into the boat?
I feel for you. Reminds me of similar crossing of Mobile bay and the gulf. As they say, embrace the suck-it gets better. When you stop looping, you’ll wonder what to do with all your time, because boat life takes every minute when you’re doing it! I’ve asked many times: ‘What can happen next?’
Haha we try not to ask “what can happen next” because inevitably it does… thanks for relating!
Elliot, Had the same water problem on our 34MT. Took me months to figure out where it was coming from. Your right, it’s coming from the anchor locker. Anytime we were in rough water the bilge would fill. Seems the water comes in and finds its way down by the bow thruster and down to the bilge. On another note not sure if you guys ever saw the movie Captain Ron, should be mandatory, “if its going to happen its going to happen out there”
Love that movie.. We heard it from some Loopers and have since watched it a few times, a classic
You should buy a auxiliary pump. I'm going to try the loop this Sept. My boat is a 30' island seas steel craft 1963. So for my peace of mind I bought a extra pump
I tried to send a picture of the pump but it's gas operated generally it's cost around $285.00 and it will pump around 30 games. And you never know when there may be someone else who may need a pump out
True that... we have quite a few manual pumps but an extra one connected to power can only help!
Glad you got your pumps working. As for it being rough try tacking(zig-zagging) to find a better ride. Sometimes slowing down will help. You probably need an 8-10 foot breaking wave on your beam before the boat would be at peril. As they say the boat will take more than you will. Loose items down below can injure you, be careful with unsecure stuff that can cut you or thump you.
We tried zig-zagging first but we couldn't get rid of those waves occasionally on the beam - we are very happy the boat is seaworthy it helped us calm down quite a bit. We definitely now have a few more items on our checklist for securing before we go underway - thanks Jan!
Pamlico Sound is notorious! Shallow and known for quickly turning into highly uncomfortable, steep waves very fast.
Sorry the first Half of your trip was stressful, glad it turned around 😀.
Thanks Larry! It was a second half type of day 😁
Ahh, boat life. You said it well, "highs and lows" Careful when you get to the Great Lakes - 2 to 3 footers can kick up quick.
Definitely going to be very selective with our weather windows 😁
U done good! Handed all problems well! You have come a long! long! way from when you started.
Prepare to go to sea, whatever can fall, will fall, so secure it. i.e. coffee pot and plants bino's cameras etc
For the coffee, do you have an air pot, that thing you press the top and get coffee out of at meetings and conference's.
l. Fill up air pot before you leave port. good to have a hot drink .when all else is sub optimal On a boat you never stop learning!
YOU DONE GOOD!
Thanks so much Lance!! We do have a coffee pot like that… luckily we didn’t have glass just a bit of a mess. But now it’s on our tie down list! We appreciate the kindness 😁
I’m gearing up for things like that for when we get our boat, if that ever happens. Thanks. D.
Good to plan on it happening and then hoping it doesn’t 😁 just happy we had backup systems installed!
Bildge pump. Primary, Secondary, back up and one for peace of mind. You have a Great Captain trust him!
We were missing the one for the peace of mind!! Gotta install that one 😁
Smooth seas don’t make good sailors was the saying our Captin always said.
I like that!
I commented before the end ... so I hadn't seen that you do a second pump.
Not that we want to rely on it but it is an important backup!!
It just dawned on me!!
You guys remind me so much of my wife and myself...only diff. Fifty years difference in age. Keep forging ahead!!
Oh haha awesome!
That’s pretty much an average day of chop and short intervals in the Great Lakes, hard to find many consistently flat days, guys handled it great. Love the videos
We will definitely be picking and choosing 1-2ft swell days with long periods (hopefully in favorable directions) on the Lakes. If we have to wait a week for one great day that's alright with us 😁
@@SchoandJo we caught just such a window on Lake Erie. I would happily wait 2 weeks to ensure a smoother passage!
The Pamlico Sound can kick your butt until you get in the lee above the bombing range and the mouth of the Pamlico River.
Absolutely...
Boats are tougher then people you do have a good boat
Right on!
Pamlico and Albemarle Sounds have kicked many a people's butts and on much larger boats. Lessons learned. Don't beat yourselves up.
Right on! Thanks 🤙
Check that your pulleys are in alignment with each other. Check to see that your alternator isn't vibrating through your rpm range.
Hmm I’ll take a look , thanks!!
Beam seas are miserable, you two are amazing, hang in there.
Thanks Harold!
Wow. I know that's from 2 months ago, but I've seen that look on Jen's face on my wife Debbie's face. Crossing the Pamlico. It's a cagey beast. That feeling when you see that much water in your bilge... That will leave a scar. Someone else said - Nobody got hurt. Yes. It was a good day.
Next video you'll probably cover all the bugs at Tuckahoe Point! 😮 Bleh!!
Ooh darn, we’ll I bet we get what Debbie felt… we just learn and get better from there! And haha we had a lovely time at Tuckahoe Point… maybe the bugs were taking a vacation?
You dodged a bullet!
Although your bilge pump is working, float switch wasn't...it is critical to check the bilge pump and float switch manually every time depart.
As a marine mechanic I frequently service these CHB Albin Hershine 36/37 all the time...bilge pump discharge thru hull is so low, one way check valve is often installed in the loop which gets caught end up blocking the discharge hose.
Thats exactly what this was I think, the thru hull is very low and it was allowing water ingress. Our new bilge pump came with a one way check valve and it has been much better!
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Yup most likely .
IDK which bilge pump you got, but one way check valve is not supposed to be used & not recommended.
Don't get skimpy on bilge pumps, stay away from cheap China products.
Next haulout, consider relocating discharge thru hull higher.
Definitely a good idea! The bilge pump we replaced it with was a Rule-Mate one of similar size!
Place Bluetooth camera in bilge, app will let you check on your phone. Quality parts are the best parts. Aloha!
Nice idea! In our next boat we'll deck it out with technology incorporating systems like these
Just looking at the counters behind you on some of your screen shots it looks like ya'll really need to look at your "rig for sea check list". You've got way too much stuff that is not strapped down or bungee corded if you like. Way too much stuff that should be stowed in lockers or on the deck somewhere when underway. Probably need more tie downs on the dingy as well if it bounced in the cradle. When she's rockin' and rollin' is not the time to find out you've got a problem like that. Water in the people tank is a fundamentally unsound underway scenario but you looked like you did it right. Have a plan -- work the problems as they appear and move on - don't bite off more than you can chew. Have a pro check what you've fixed at the earliest opportunity. Even this day will be one of the good old days; one of these days.
We did add a few things to the “tie down list” from this experience! Another 1k miles and it’s been good so far! Thanks for watching!
That is probably the most concerning thing that you can encounter...
You managed it the best you could. Keeping your cool and the finger off the panic button allows you to think clearly.
Jo...stay loose...I know it's not easy..we had an engine failure in five to six foot seas..it wasn't fun..but like you guys,we dropped th hook and called BoatUS for a tow. Like you...we had a happy ending...keep smiling!!
As long as there is a happy ending :) Sounds like you had quite the day no doubt...
I am from Holland , so i don't know if i can explain this in english. Your screw is closed up with some kind of fat and that is probably leaking. It's or a fat coard or a tube with fat in it , that you have to turn to get fat into your screw to make it water tied . Maybe you know about this , good luck .
That could be it... We think it was our bilge pump outlet hose since there was no backflow and its close to the waterline... Thanks for commenting Martin - your English is perfectly fine 😁
Thank you .
Never been on a trawler, assuming they’re not great in rough water?
Depends on the size of trawler, whether you have stabilizers or not, and finally the direction of the swell. Anything on the beam is not great 😁
Elliott you are a lucky man, Jenn is a tropper. My wife would never step back on my boat again if I put her in that situation.
She absolutely is, I'm very lucky!
You gotta stow the boat for sea so you don’t have stuff falling over and moving around
Yep… we now have a very thorough list. Until that huge wave comes from a new direction and that thing that never should move, moved. Then the list gets updated 😁
I don't mean to be pedantic, but at 8:36 your labelling shows a fundamental misunderstanding of the term "lee shore." That misunderstanding could get you, or someone trying to learn from you, in real trouble. You were attempting to get into the LEE of a shore to WINDWARD. The LEE SHORE is the dangerous shore downwind of you. It is the shore on which you will fetch up if you are blown down on it. I really enjoy y'alls' channel and following your journey.
Hi John! Thanks for following along. It was confusing which we should have made more clear. The terms windward and leeward are all relative. Our thinking is always in terms of anchoring and then in terms of the land mass. In that though process, the land mass has a windward shore and leeward shore, and you want to be on the leeward shore (protected shore) of the land mass. HOWEVER this is not normally the way people think about windward/leeward and thus leads to confusion (although not incorrect). Pivot was heading to Windward away from Pivot's Lee Shore and towards the Windward Shore of the Pamlico Sound (which is the perspective that you are saying, which is also correct and probably what we should have said 😁)
Hated seeing Jen so upset. Hurt my heart. Better days ahead I’m assuming. Peace!
Absolutely! It was a tough day but we learned from it. Thanks Brad!
This video is a couple of months old and maybe everything's been fixed but no water should get from the anchor locker to the bilge Elliott. The hole at the bow is to drain the locker not fill the bilge. I'd be more concerned about the water coming aboard than securing the coffee machine. You've said you must fix your auto bilge pump, why not wire a buzzer to it so you hear it every time it switches on, if it comes on often enough to annoy you there's a problem, the only water coming aboard should be an occasional drip from some types of prop shaft gland. Happy boating :-)
Months later, we are pretty sure water was coming in from the bilge pump outlet hose. It didn't have a backflow valve and is pretty close to our water line so it's most likely to be the culprit. We have since fixed that but in an unrelated note our only water intrusion (i think) is at our rudder shaft seal which is a small leak but we will handle it at our next haul out. That's a good idea for a buzzer alarm though!
@@SchoandJo That's great Elliott, yes the pump outlet will do it, a non return valve
can work but may also reduce pump flow, putting an inverted "U"in the hose just before the outlet that lifts the hose vertically a foot or so is sometimes better. Happy cruising.
The longer you go the harder it gets…but that’s because it’s supposed too
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Awesome vedio even with the leak buy a 3500 pump much better
Bigger seems to be better when it comes to bilge pumps!
Ingress access
Exhaust hose/muffler
Heat exchanger
Thru hulls
Sea strainer
Crack in the hull
Go get'm tiger (s)!
Goodonyas!
Thanks Scott!
Jen, I started crying, seeing how scared you were. Hang in there, you made it! Thank you, Elliot for your calmness and support of Jen. I love watching your very real-life videos. Keep ‘em coming!
Thanks, Uncle Westby! The highs, lows, and everything in between... this was definitely a low and I'm glad we're past it.
Hey show and jo are y’all vegetarian? I never see y’all eat steak or meat. Good luck I’m addicted to your show
We are! We ate meat while traveling internationally in 2019 (and before) but since then mostly vegetarian! Cheers!
Me to bottoms up !
Good Lord Jen, you always seem to be saying your were almost in tears. Are you sure this is the right adventure for you?
Just because something is tough doesn't mean that it isn't worth it - you can either quit or learn and keep moving forward
Your videos are awesome and ur narrative is 2nd to none. However clearly Jen has issues with waves and rocking of ur vessel which unfortunately is part of boating. The roughest is yet to come. You can routinely see 4 to 6 foot waves in the great lakes. Sadly u may want to consider a motorhome instead. Maybe boating is not for her. Be safe and good luck u guys.
We are definitely fair weather cruisers, not a reason to give up just a reason to pick better weather windows 😁
U gotta take the good with the bad stop crying
Looks like you must never cry! Impressive!
Whether it was Jen or Elliot who wrote the reply, I love your wry humor and wit--a proper reply to an inappropriate comment. 😄