Nikon Z5 - A crippled bargain for pros? Or an overpriced beginner camera?
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- Опубліковано 10 лип 2024
- The Z5 is a new $1400 entry level full frame mirrorless camera from Nikon. Is this a bargain for pros with crippled specs? Or is it an overpriced beginner camera with extra features? Find out in this video.
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Hello Hyun, this is a very good review of the Z5. I only disagree about one thing: RAW Uncompressed. RAW Compressed Lossless is exactly the same as RAW Uncompressed as no bits were thrown away. Finally we have a camera manufacturer that realizes they can lose RAW Uncompressed without compromise because RAW Compressed Lossless gives you exactly the same image quality. As Mister Spock says, "A difference which makes no difference, is no difference." As a computer guy (Mac guy really) I understand this. Why do folks think they are losing something with lossless compression? You are not, and that's what lossless means. One other thing I'm not sure we agree upon is the cause of the lower frame rate this camera has. Does the non-BSI sensor take longer to do a full readout and therefore can't match the frame rate of the Z6, or has Nikon actually pulled a Canon move and deliberately hindered the camera's frame rate in firmware? It is difficult to know for certain. But if the camera can shoot faster, then perhaps we can convince Nikon it is worth un-hindering it in future, or perhaps a third party like those folks who do Magic Lantern might fix this issue. One other thing about the cost of this camera: Buyers need to factor in the high cost of XQD cards and the fact you will need an XQD reader to use the Z6, which in Canada will add another $300 to the Z6 cost. (Technically you can do without a card reader if you use Wi-Fi or USB-C but most will want a card reader.) So the delta between Z6 and Z5 is more like $700, and I already had UHS-II cards lying around that I could use without spending a dime. Love the lighting, very insightful analysis. Cheers from the Great White North. (Canada) -- Jim Ferr
Well said, sire.
Give me z5 ii, with top screen 12-15fps, xqd and sd slots and CMOS, yes I prefer cmos over bsi sensor. And price 1799. That would be my perfect camera.
You are losing processing time, as compression and unpacking is not free, but that's about it.
@@Juraj037 that aint gonna happen i think 😅 not without another major drawback
@@Juraj037that will be too close to a z6
I like that you are not showing any bias. You discuss and compare features of several brands. It really helps people to decide what’s important to them in a camera.
By every measure, the Z lenses are excellent. Whether the f1.8 primes, f4 zooms, 2.8 zooms, or new 1.2 primes, they deliver performance at or near the top of their respective categories. Taken together with their build quality and utility, they may represent the best value proposition for many consumers and working professionals.
Nikon problem is that they are building their cameras so well. I still don't see any reason to jump to mirrorless when I am still enjoying my D 750 and D700.Especialy D 750 is awesome camera, it is lightweight, plenty of lenses to choose and amazing image quality. It has been with me around the world from the desert to the jungles for 5 years and never let me down.
Great review. Picked one up this weekend for $990 new for the body with the adapter and a Manfrotto Element MII tripod thrown in. So far, being my first FF and Mirrorless I am enjoying this camera's quality over my old crop sensor.
Lets not forget, that this camera is the cheapest FF digital camera, Nikon have ever put on the market.
It is a full $600 cheaper than even the D600/D610 or the Z6 cameras were, when they were introduced.
I'll say it's a very well-priced entry level FF camera with specs to match its price range.
No matter if you are a beginner or a pro.
Nothing's too cheap nor too over-priced. One needs to know how to make use with what exist and be happy. But tbh, this is the best Z for transitioners wanted to shoot with Z glass now.
Serious shooters won't stay with this. But when they upgrade to future Zs from this, less bucks are wasted.
for 1200, it's a great deal with the ftz adapter. It's exactly what it should be. I moved from a D7100, I am not a pro so it was a good move to FX. If you trade in all your DX gear, its worth it. I think with a firmware update, this could become a very popular camera. But I am happy with it for a casual shooter.
Finally a video that objectively compares cameras and goes over the limitations as opposed to saying 'its not backlit so thats bad' with zero comparison to say HOW bad it is. Burst frames may not be a big deal for many buyers, but objectively better photos is something almost anyone can get behind. Still going with Z5 for dual card slots lol
I think it looks like a great camera. Technology has changed with features that makes taking photos easier but it's up to the photographer to create works of art. One card slot or two next they'll want three. Or perhaps people will want a camera with AI that will focus, compose, and tell them where to place external flashes and take the photos for them. Lol I mean have we lost the art of photography for the art of the best high tech gear. I wonder how ever did sport shooter live with shooting 4 FPS since whenever. Great video ❤🙌🏿
I got mine two weeks ago. Its an upgrade from high-end micro four-thirds. I am not a video shooter. Yours is the review I have liked the most. Thank you.
This is great to hear. I'm upgrading from a Olympus em1 to the Nikon Z5 and I'm excited.
I have my Z5 for over a week and I miss a lot from my - still primary Olympus EM-1 Mii - bracketing, HDR, Precapture, live time, live composite, images per second, .... The primary goal for the Z5 is to use it w7ith my vintage lenses which I also use with my Olympus cameras but to use them with crop factor 1!
The z5 will be a popular choice for wedding photographer or people looking to jump into the MIRRORLESS FF etc. Eventually the price will drop no big deal. There is no such as the perfect camera for everyone (we have different needs) , BUT THERE IS ALWAYS A CAMERA FOR EVERY TYPE OF PHOTOGRAPHER. Will buy couple of Z5 as it is good enough for the work I do.
The d780 would've been the perfect camera
If it had a joystick.
Lossless Compressed - as the name implies, lossless compression means that a RAW file is compressed like an archive file without any loss of data. Once a losslessly compressed image is processed by post-processing software, the data is first decompressed, similar to what happens to archived data contained in a ZIP file. Lossless compression is the ideal choice, because all the data is fully preserved and yet the image takes up much less space.
I would love this for my street photography alongside the Panasonic S5.
FYI lossless compressed files decompress to the exact same file that uncompressed files would produce. If you have a lossy compression, it's a bit different, but for lossless, you end up with smaller physical files that write faster to the slower SD cards. This is actually desirable.
Always enjoy your reviews and commentaries. I traded in an outdated Nikon and got $150 trade-in value for the Z5 and got a brand new 24-70 mm f/4 z mount from overseas for USD$380 - This I can live with. But if Nikon came out with an improved Z62 (30 mp, flip screen) at say $1750USD (body only), I'd still get it.
This review is awesome. I like the honesty you put into describing this camera. I am thinking about getting this camera just for using my vintage lens and to get into the mirrorless. Welcome your new subscriber.
Other than 120fps, I still shoot clients videos in 1080p. If I need 4k, I'll just back myself up.
So this is great for me.
ikr i wish it had it since the z50 has 120fps
I agree. I help students with their science and environmental projects. They make a film of the issue there are looking at. When submitting the film to a film festival the festival demands 1080p because 4K takes way to much storage space for all the submittals. I bought the camera and think it is great as an entry into full frame. Small camera, great image quality, etc.
informative content brother. Thanks 🙏🏻
Hyun, always appreciate your insights. I used to shoot nikon apsc dslrs. the smaller Nikon DSLRs also didn’t have full uncompressed raw options. So yeah, i suspect that is nikon doing a crippling thing to better segment/differentiate products. The pisser for me with this offering is that nikon refuses to offer this camera with the 24-70 f4 lens as a kit lens and charge $600 for it like they do with the z5 and z6. I’ve done my own little advocacy campaign pitching through several means to nikon that they add the 24-70 f4 as a kit option, but have heard only crickets. Thom Hogan says he thinks their non-response on the lens matter is due to higher management dictating sales strategy and a long historical pattern of not listening to their buyer audiences. Craig
With regard to compression, your video showed one of the options being Lossless Compression. By definition, an image that is compressed using a “lossless” algorithm will, upon be uncompressed, be identical to the image that was never compressed. There will be no loss of quality of the image. The downside to this is that (1) it will take some time to compress the image prior to storing it on the memory card, and (2) it will take time to uncompressed the image before it can be edited in your computer.. With modern computers, that time may be insignificant. However, the time to compress the image may be a factor on the maximum number of still images per second. I have not seen nor used the camera, but am basing my comments on compression based on over 40 years working in Information Technology.
Great review! Thanks!
I got mine specifically to use vintage manual lenses on and it's absolutely perfect in that role. Every adapter I've purchased fits well and my old Leica and Zeiss lenses are wonderful to use. I never use flash or speed shooting and I've always had Nikon cropped DSLRs so this really was a dream body for me.
@S Tra It was not until full frame digital mirrorless bodies came along (made popular only 7 years ago with Sony's A7) that this was even possible. The flange focal distance is way too large with DSLR to use vintage glass. The other thing is that it needs to be full frame or else you're not making use of the lens "properly". I'm more of a wide-angle guy so crop sensor was not something I was interested in. So what other option is there? Use the original 35 mm bodies, sure... but that's a whole different animal.
As for trowing away 99% of the tech... I use almost all of the tech in this camera. Automatic focus is a lens technology. I use the in-body stabiliation and digital focus peaking, both are awesome with vintage glass. Light metering, etc etc. I'm throwing away 1% of the tech, you have it backwards heh.
@S Tra And you completely lose autofocus with vintage lenses. But can you understand the value with my explanation? If someone is ok with manual focus (which I am) then this body is a fantastic platform to make use of really great vintage glass. Can you see how auto focus is all you lose and there's a pile of technology in there that I'm making use of?
@@digiternst I'm in a similar situation, have a bunch of vintage glass which I love to shoot on my D850 and D750. Have you used your vintage lens on the Z5 for video? Wondering about that. I also shoot some vid for commercial jobs. Thx
@@johnsobeski627 I have yet to really get into video with this camera but my instinct is that you want autofocus for video... unless you're doing artsy stuff, lots of rack focusing, etc.
BTW - There are auto focus adapters being released now for the Nikon Z that can be used with vintage lenses. Look up the Megadap MTZ11 and Techart TZM-01 adapters. Part of the allure of mirrorless is being able to utilize all these different lenses throughout the history of photography. Honestly, if someone only sticks to Z lenses with Nikon, you're the one actually throwing away 99% of the mirrorless technological advantages.
The 5Z is what the 6Z should've been when it first came out. The autofocus is pretty good, the double SD card takes it from hobbyist to semi-pro. I think it depends on where exactly you're coming from. With me, I'm trying to figure out whether I should sale all my Nikon lenses and my DSLR and flip that for a Sony 7III or 7VI depending on how much I get for the old hardware or get what I can for the DSLR and get the Z5 or Z7 II because their adapter works great with old Nikon lenses.
Considering the features and the price, for a regular commercial photographer, it is most apt camera when compared to other brands in the market.
Handling is better than the Z6/Z7 b/c it's now 1 handed like the Z 50.
Very good review! I’ve had the z5 for a while now and use it to back up a Z7ii, it replaced a D750. This is my go to for faster, street style or nontripod shooting. I’m still impressed with image quality and color I get from this camera. I generally use the z 50mm f1.8. The low light quality isn’t the best but that’s usually when I’ll shoot darker more contrasty photos anyway. I seldom use the autofocus for anything more than regular photography, no sports and almost no wildlife. All and all I’m very happy with it.
Nice review of the pros and cons. Thank you.
Since sony made my dream come to life with the laea5. Although 3 years late since i switched to nikon. I wish nikon do the same for the old AF lenses.
I'm torn. It's a big plus for me that it has 2 SD slots, so I can use the cards that I have instead of having to buy expensive new cards. I don't care about video and 4.5fps I can live with, but the Z6 simply has better dynamic range and better low-light performance and higher fps, for not even €200 more (if you ignore the expensive new cards). Really, the only reason not to spring for the z6, I think, is the cards.
I have the exact same problem, the card slot is really the problem. Or, that they chose to go with the XQD card, instead of the normal card, that means that the Z6 just gets too expensive, having to at least an additional 150-200 USD to the price (based on where I live), just to have one memory card. I prefer to have a couple, so we're definitely talking 500-600 USD extra for me.
The Z5 might be of interest had I already been with Nikon. But since I would have to switch brand, which I wouldn't mind doing, it's just a tool, it will get too expensive and cumbersome.
I think Nikon made the wrong choices here, a) with the choice of type of card for Z6 and Z7, and b) not using backlit sensor for the Z5.
Glasscherf hopefully the prices go down then i can get a z50 😁
Get the Z5. I have the Z7, the XQD is pain in the a**.
Z5 does better at lower ISO,this modified D750 sensor still shines over Z6/D780 BSI at lower ISOs, & shows color noise improvements over D750 at higher ISO. The BSI magic begins at 3200 & rises more with ISO from that point.
@Paul Jones Rp is 5fps,R is 5.5 fps,they can't even keep those burst rates while tracking. S5 at 2k$ released in 2020 is kept at 5fps with tracking & useless 7fps only in AF-S. May be Z5 could & should have 5.5 fps that is continuous high mode in Z6/7, beyond which AE isn't available. It's not cripple hammer always, there can be limitations(may be slow reading FSI sensor doing both AF & imaging process at the same time). D610 & D750 were more expensive cameras than Z5 at the time of their release. & while technology may be getting cheaper with time,but manufacturing & material cost is increasing,& still Z5 is released at a cheaper price point. So 4.5 fps isn't appreciable,but also not unacceptable for a camera like Z5 at its price point.
Just trying to tell myself: Literally everything is an upgrade. A nikon z5 is infinitely better than my rebel t5 from way back when using a similar lens. So... lol. I gotta ditch the anxiety. What pro-users call an entry level camera obviously haven't used what I called an entry level camera.
Exactly,you can do it, believe in your self.anyrhing you will go for will be better than that 💩,welp i dont even have a camera and i am also in the same dilemma as you lmao
Problem is that for most non pro use cases that's not really true. My 12 year old Nikon D90 will do 4,5 FPS, 3D tracking autofocus, ISO3200 is completely useable, and it can take any F mount lens, e.g. paying below 200$ for f1,8 primes. The picture at 12,6 megapixels is big enough for almost anything a semi-pro user will need (hell, the D3 that was the Nikon FF Flagship then had 12,1 megapixels and was used by pro photographers for everything back then), and everything functions more or less how DSLRs do now.
I think people have to sit down and think what they need and use their cameras for - if you're doing casual photography you wont ever really need the 15 FPS burst shooting, super advanced eye tracking AF, 20-40 megapixel pictures, ISO 51,400, 4k 120 FPS video etc. that modern cameras have. So in the end the difference between a decent 10 year old camera and a brand new mirrorless camera will be mainly that your photos will take up more space.
@@ChaplainDMK after 2 months with a z6 and a 50mm 1.8 lens, I can say with some confidence that my assertion was correct. I had outgrown my camera. If anything, the technology advances available in the new body only improved the things about my Rebel that held me back, and I was already coming up with clever ways to overcome them.
Best choice I ever made. And now nothing but my wallet is stopping me from moving on to even more types of photography.
@@ChaplainDMK I agree to a point - the incredible capabilities of high end modern cameras can make you feel you're missing out if you buy something more mid-range, when in fact it's often more than capable for your needs of you're an amateur. That said, I upgraded from a D90 to a D750 and the improvement in image quality was amazing. Do I really need it? No, but I certainly do appreciate the far better low light performance, the insane dynamic range that lets me practically do HDR photography from a single exposure because you can push the shadows so much, and the high megapixel count is useful for cropping. The Z5 has very similar IQ to the D750, of course. So while many of the features you mentioned are unlikely to be essential for most people, upgrading to a modern FF sensor from a 10+ year old APS-C one will make a BIG difference.
For me the z5 is a great backup/2nd body to owners of z6/7. The z lenses are amazing. They are more expensive, but they are extremely sharp, for example 50 1.8s is way way sharper than 50 1.4g, incomparably sharper. 50 1.8s is as good than sony zeiss 55 1.8 which is more expensive. I will wait for a bit a year or something for the price of z5 to fall and get it as a second body for my z6. :)
I've been considering either Sony A7c or A7iii with 35 or 55 1.8 and Nikon Z5 with 1.8 prime... I shoot street noir photography and railways... Which will be more better value preposition...
Seems you have used both... Please help
I just bought mine to use the G lens collection I have from my 4 x D810's. Also got the Fringer for my Sigma 135mm EF lens for it. This is added to my Fujifilm XT3's x 4 APSC and GFX50s x 2 MF collection. I always shoot at base iso.
Hi I'm glad to see a complex review, I would like to buy a z5 and replace nikon d810, I would like to know if it's worth it !? At the moment I own a 3-year-old d810, I'm most interested in the iso part because I can't find any conclusive documentation anywhere regarding the high iso noise, which is better. Thanks for your time and I hope you can help me make a decision.
I got a deal on the Z 5. The difference I found was $400.00. I don't need fast shutter or to shoot video. I do landscapes and portraits. When the Z 6 drops down a lot. Maybe. But I am satisfied with the Z5.
I looked at several cameras in a lower price range...my original budget was around $1000. As i began collecting information and opinions it became clear that I would have to increase my budget because most cameras in the lower bracket lacked any kind of weather proofing. I began looking at Nikon 5600 refurb with 2 kit lens ( 70-3000 and 18-55) for around $800. I think this is a good deal but other factors became apparent. My first camera was an OM-10 (pre 1990) and I like the retro look. I found my viewpoint somewhat contrarian. It was similar to my choice of electronic piano....Korg SV2 instead of a Roland or Yamaha.
With regard to cameras i found myself looking at Olympus and Fuji instead of Canon and Nikon.
So, to the question of the Nikon Z5 which was I i ally out of my budget range but now is right in the sweet spot. One cannot discount the brand loyalty quotient but since I had not bought a camera since my 8 MP Lumix TZ4 in early 2000 Iopened myself up to Sony, Nikon, Canon, Olympus and Panasonic....with Fuji on the periphery. I saw the Fuji as a film maker since I used Fuji film in my last film camera.
I think for a getting more serious photographer I would not chose the Z5 or the Z6 for that matter. They are too expensive for what you get and the lens question really looks like a budget breaker. I looked at the Fuji XT30 (very light and small but too small for me) the Olympus D E-M10 Mk III which is also small but otherwise good and the eventual winner the Fujifilm XT3 which, at $1400 with an 18-55mm Fujinon lens, is a much better camera at that price point. It also has a much better lens assortment at reasonable cost, excellent video, dual slot. The battery life is a bit weak but I can manage that since I don’t plan on shooting a professional volume.
What really sold me on this camera beyond the feel and retro look was the endorsement of two professional uncompensated reviews where they replaced their heavy gear (10K$+) and used the XT2 as a replacement. Also they extolled the excellent quality of the Fuji lens.
I do not think that is a good deal especially as the 5600 is refurbished. I would buy a new 5600 with a kit lenses and either a used Nikon 70-300 lenses or the Sigma 30-300 dg f4:5 5:6 which is fast silent and delivers some good images. And by the way, as the 5600 is a crop sensor the Sigma is 45,mm to 450mm focal length and normal if used on a full frame camera
I have shot weddings the past 6 years with two D750s. Im very interested in the Z5, because it looks like a mirrorless D750 at a great price. Comparing the camera to other brands is fun, but it's not practical if all of your professional gear is in one brand. Going mirrorless from Nikon DSLRs makes way more sense with a Z5 than having to buy 2 new A7iii with their lenses.
Exactly, I'm not a pro but I have 5 full frame Nikon lenses. I enjoy looking at the Sony A7 series but in the end if I upgrade my camera one day it will be to something like the Z5 or 6, simply because I have invested in the Nikon system 8 years ago and switching would be a hassle and expensive for little real world advantage.
Why is it not practical to have all your gear in one brand?
The best-detailed review I've heard. Thank you.
Honestly it’s a good camera for the price especially now since they are basically giving you the FTZ adapter for $50 it’s a D750 with 2 less FPS but much better video and mirrorless benefits of evf and better live view and D750 came in at $2300 when it released.. Solid camera for portraits weddings travel and everyday carry 🤷♂️
Also a touchscreen and IBIS, which D750 doesn't have.
this is the first video, where I see the noise difference between z5 and z6!
but the z5 is more interesting to me because I could use cheaper sd cards.
Excellent video 😊!
Great review. At time of writing, I have been reading that there are issues when using a Z5 with non-Nikon branded lenses via FTZ adaptor (I.e sigma, tamron) in C1 or LR. Have you been reading this as well ?
As for the Z lenses (price wise).. yeah it’s a fair amount of investment.. this is a hard one to shallow.. esp in 2020..if Samyang/tamron/sigma are already offering lens alternatives for Sony at a more competitive price... but if you have a heap of FX lenses that’s probably the audience that they are tempting.. to go to mirrorless (if they haven’t already moved to another brand)
Tamron and sigma lenses needs firmware updated in order to work well with Z mount
Hyun, Any chance you’ll be looking at the new Panasonic S5 for review? I know many consider it mainly for its video specs. But i’m considering it for stills photography. It has entry FF pricing. It has no anti aliasing filter, and it has a helpful high resolution mode that seem they could be great together for landscape work. Great IBIS. Plus it has many of the bells and whistle features like live composite, focus stacking, multiple exposures, etc from their and Olympus’s micro 4/3 cameras. Craig
Agree about shutter button too much on the right. Also I find the front dial too low and it's quite difficult to access it because it is too close to the middle finger. (all this on my Z7)
Great review !
Well, the Sony is really a video camera designed to look and feel like a still camera. These days, sales of pure video cameras are way down, so it’s not surprising that Sony did this. But if you’re buying a camera primarily for stills shooting, with a secondary use of video, the Sony is not the cameras for you. It’s 12MP stills are just too far behind everyone else. Unless you just shoot stills for Facebook, Instagram, etc. Then it doesn’t really matter.
I wish it had a fully articulating screen, great review mate.
me too, my Nikon D5500 has one and so does the D5600, so Nikon can do it!
The lack of a fully articulating screen prevents me from considering Nikon mirrorless. Even if I did, the total cost of a Z system (say Z50 camera + lenses) looks aggravating when comparing to the total cost of a D5600 (I have the kit, 70-300, 10-20, 35/1.8 and FF50/1.8) - there’s no cheap 35mm or portrait or UWA Z DX lens. Things get even scarier if I price a FF Z system. Guess I am stuck with the D5600 for the time being.
S Tra I have never had problems with autofocus on D5600, that would not be a reason to side-grade to Z50. Z50 might have looked interesting hadn’t I had the D5600. Again, the lack of a fully articulating screen is a deal breaker, in that regard the Z50 would be a downgrade to D5600
S Tra First and foremost, I have never considered moving from D5600 to Z50 an upgrade, I actually stated quite the opposite. However, you have a point in saying that an existing Nikon DSLR user may use their D lenses on a Z camera with an adapter if they want so, to compensate the holes in Nikon Z line-up.
S Tra And that’s just your opinion which I do not agree with.
Great video. how about reviewing the Z6 and the Z7,because I think they are a little bit underrated.
But I think that they are pretty good cameras.
Since you asked: I do think the Z mount lenses are priced right. Every single lens they released seems to perform better than their F mount versions. When you find the right deal, which come around quite often, the 50mm and 85mm are steals, if you ask me. I think judging a lens by its F value alone is rather narrow-minded. There is a lot more going on, and I'm pretty sure you are well-versed in this, probably more than myself, to understand it.
Great summary!
Esta Z5 ya es un clásico!!!!! Y ahora recibió actualización de firmware que le suma un autofoco veloz al ojo en video. Realmente es una opción muy recomendable y disfrutable. Además, se puede complementar con cámaras réflex como la D500 para deportes muy intensos. La Z5 es ideal para fotógrafos de eventos sociales, una con el z35mm o el 50mm 1.8 y otra con el 85mm 1.8. Fantástica!!!!! Pero con ella se puede cubrir muchas más categorías, desde street foto hasta paisajes, o macro. No se precisa más !!!!! La calidad de imagen y colores es fabulosa !!!!!
I love this video, but we have to remember ( if we are searching for a backup camera, or looking to get into full-frame cameras) it is almost always the photographer that makes the difference. Yes, indeed, you can't stick with a beginner camera and just keep taking amazing photos easily. If you are looking into making money off of photography, then considering a better camera might be necessary. That being said, even though I have heard a lot of people say that the Nikon Z5 is an entry-level full frame, it really depends on the settings you need, your wants in a camera, and most of all, your skill level and ability to use that camera to its highest potential. Other than that, I am looking into getting this camera soon because of its affordability now. Great video though!
Really like your style of reviewing gear and appreciate your approach. About Z5, I like 90% of what Nikon did. A photographer should be happy with 2 uhs II slots, weather sealing, ibis, usb charging and new battery, good af and evf and very good ergonomics, controls and feel. Price is ... ok right now but expect reductions in the neat future. Hope Nikon will keep on improving via firmware.
What I don’t understand is the crop in 4k. There are many other ways to differentiate from other bodies. Not this one. It’s really annoying.
In the end I wish more brands would sell such new bodies. The recent S5 and imminent A7c are strong in video specs I do not need. With Z5 I don’t have to pay for those, with very little compromise in the photo area. Of course there is used market... with pros and cons.
Crop in 4K video = lot less data to crunch = no overheating.
Great Review 👍🏾
Hyun, thank you for a very reasonable and unbiased review of this camera. I have an old DX Nikon and into to venture into Full Frame. ( I started my photography with the Nikon Fm years back). I consider the output of the Nikons to be Excellent , something that keeps me with Nikon. There is a UK weeding photographer who has used the Z5 for a year and thinks very highly of it indeed on his you tube channel . He is fair and unbiased too. Your assessment points me towards the Z6. Cheers.
Do you have a link to him
@@markshirley01 Allen Blasdell
Then what would you buy instead of the Z5 ? You make it sound like the image quality is lacking when it's not the case .
I'll pick one up when the price drops to $1000 either this holiday season or by next Memorial Day weekend.
Just got a z6 on FB marketplace for $1100 with FTZ. I bought the D780 ealrier this year bc I have a lot of D series glass. These will be my pro workhorses going forward and I'm excited for the sensor stabilization for video
It's roughly 1k now for body
@@mikeschaid959 Great, new or used????????
Love it. Have done weddings and model work with it. I prefer it to my Z8
I'm a D750 shooter and I'm considering the Z5 as my next camera and entry into mirrorless. It seems like a D750, but mirrorless. I'm not a sports shooter. I'm doing portraits, and boudoir, so I don't need a high burst speed. I don't shoot video.
I have had the chance to try the Z5, but looking at the reviews, I'm kind of torn on it. I may wind up getting it anyway. I do think it will work with what I'm trying to do.
Spot on review. Iv been looking to upgrade my Nikon finally and torn between the Z5 and Z6. Would love the if the Z5 was a bit cheaper because then I could overlook the 1.7 crop @ 4K. But I can just put a few more dollars and just get the Z6 but then only have one memory card slot smh damn you Nikon lol
i have a feeling their will be a future update that unleashes the cameras potential
Totally agree on the lens prices plus at the moment you dont have the option of great value options from samyang and tamron on Z system.
Nikon's not including ability to shoot in the uncompressed RAW format sounds like a deal breaker.. Thanks for noting this fact and you're correct that other commentators/experts aren't mentioning this important info.
You asked so I’m telling you, I’m not buying this camera because I have the Fujifilm X-T4 (and an X-T2) with three primes and three zooms lenses. LOL
I really enjoy watching your videos, I always learn something. Stay safe.
The Nikon z 50mm 1.8 is amazingly sharp for its price, right up thier with canon L and Sony GM which are very heavy and over priced. I switched to Nikon just for thier sharp well balanced primes and the 24-200mm for what it is, is awesome.
Nikon Z5 and Canon RP has made FF Bodies affordable for the masses which is a great step forward in FF photography.
As of sep 2021, Z5 is available for 1500USD WITH 24-70 F4 S lens, so now i think its a juicy price
Im conflicted but this helped. Thank You. I am a moderate cinematographer but recently endulged into a project that will be ongoing with music videos etc... Would you recommend this Z5 for me, as Im just now beginning to work with 4k? With the exception of my iphone 10S.
If 4k is a requirement I'd never go with a camera that crops in 4k.
If I can shoot video with a Z50 and D750, I'm fine with Z5 ............ of which I'm ordering. 😆
@Carlos Suarez Ditto on that.
Fast forward to today, I ended up ordering the Z50 ........... Z5 maybe later on. If I can shoot with the Z50, I don't see anyone should have a problem with the Z5.
Nikon has merged their 1.8G & 1.4G lens line to create 1.8S line which outperforms 1.4G at a cheaper price. But it has pros & cons, yes they don't have any netive budget prime offerings as of now & the 1.8S have become larger, heavier & pricier than competition's 1.8 system (sony in particular because canon has taken a different route). May be the huge size of Z mount is responsible for this. Majority of Nikon community is very happy with these lenses but outside world isn't,as of now.
1.8 and 1.4 are two different things period. Now, comparing 1.8 to 1.8 the new Nikon lenses are optically superior.
Konstantinos Mpismpiroulas most 1.4s aren’t sharp at 1.4
@@mainmain5303 Sure, but it opens up to 1.4. It matters. You can't 'merge' the two.
@@KonstantinosMp Nikon is going for 1.2, 50 1.2 is about to release. May be they will create 1.4 for extreme focal lengths where 1.2 isn't practical.
@@harshpatel4158 Got your logic. Thank you for replying 😊
Why would you need uncompressed RAW, when you have lossless compressed RAW? Lossless compression doesn't have an effect on image quality.
It really doesn't but it kind of depends on the camera. I just prefer to have the option.
Completely agree. Lossless saves you a lot of storage and gives you 99.99% of the same quality as uncompressed.
D750 also doesn't offer uncompressed RAW, it's nice to have but it's not a deal breaker for any person who will be interested in Z5.
@@TaipeiGeek you always have a loss in everything, in this case. compressed raw these days are so good especially canon to the point you have no image loss in terms of quality, BUT, the performance when editing the photos are affected. i shoot uncompressed due to having to edit around 200 photos sent by client daily. considering hard drives are cheap nowadays, my time does worth more than the cost of storage
@@shzammpatapon9865 Good point.
Good vedio. For photos only which one better Nikon z5 or fuji xt 4 thanks I wana buy one of them
what pro's has the Z5 when you want to upgrade from D7500? Bird photography with a sigma zoom 150-600 and a Z-mount converter; do I loose focussing speed and stabilsation? If yes, better keep on shooting with the d7500...
I picked up the Z5 with the kit lens for 1500 Canadian on sale the other day. At that price, it was a no brainer!
Is continuous shooting 4.5 fps working in auto focus ? Kids in action is enough @ 4.5 fps ? also in low light ?
3 years later, but yes, I think the Z mount lenses are exceptionally good (especially the S line). pricey? yes, but also capable of delivering image quality (even the workhorse zooms!) we have not seen from the F mount.
Re: Nikon Z mount lens price structuring. The 1.8 S line lenses outperform Nikon's own 1.4 F mount primes. You're still losing the lower light performance of the wider aperture, you're still losing the additional depth of field control of the wider aperture, but by all other objective metrics, the 1.8 S line primes are superior in overall sharpness, corner sharpness, chromatic aberration, coma, etc. in addition to having less focus breathing and quieter focusing motors, which is essential for video and on camera audio recording.
There's still a disconnect between paying $600 MSRP for a 50mm 1.8 lens because of everything that has come before the 1.8 S line (1.8 = cheap), but you are still paying proportionally to the performance you're receiving. The same applies to the rest of the 1.8 S prime line up. It does not look like Nikon will be doing an entry (1.8), mid (1.4), pro (1.2) line up structuring, meaning your Z mount options from Nikon will be the sub $1k 1.8, or the $2-3k 1.2.
One thing to keep in mind is that even if the Z5/RP are pretty low specs, that may not always be the same case. The 6D/5D for example got a massive increase in specs for the R6/R5 and as the bodies at those price points get better features, eventually the lower end ones like the RP/Z5 will too. Hopefully one day we can see a decent Full Frame body for the same price as a mid level Crop body!
RP?
Image quality in Z5 and Z6II is exact the same... If you put the ISO high its a little difference, but for 90 percent of time its just the same. And plus the Sony a7 iii by all means doesnt produce better images than Nikon... They have better AF thats for sure, but image quality coming out of the camera and colours and sharpness are not to compare.
Nice video. Just bought a Z5 for $1K USD. At that price, it's a great deal. Normally a Canon shooter and looking to get into mirrorless, I thought the Z5 was far superior to the Canon RP at the same price point.
I'm about to buy a camera, and I've been eyeing the Z5. Like you said, you can get the body for 1k. How do you like it so far?
@@jonc8561 I love it! Needed a travel camera but got tired of sacrificing image quality for the small size. Tried many Sonys but were always disappointed by their colors. I'm just a jpg shooter so and like the Nikon renderings. All the best!
Need a camera for Audition videos. Just entering full frames 📷camera world, which do you suggest
I have the 50mm 1.8s and I feel it's so good that the price doesnt really bother me 🤷♂️
It's worth noting that if you shoot a lot of low ISO work, the Z5's IQ at ISO 100-640 is superior to the Z6, the lack of dual gain actually has some benefits as well as the downsides encountered at high ISO's.
I looked quite long and hard at both bodies, and chose the Z5 for several reasons. Note I'm primarily a landscape shooter, I don't shoot sports or do much video. I don't print large, so the Z7 isn't of any real benefit to me.
The Z5 card setup is significantly superior to the Z6 for all cases except action. 4.5fps is actually quite fast compared to older sports bodies (it's 0.5fps slower than an F100 or an ungripped D700), and the Z6 isn't actually significantly faster than the Z5 while maintaining the LV feed (5.5 fps vs 4.5fps with full live view). The benefits from XQD/CFE-B are non-existent unless you're dumping the buffer regularly or shooting 4K60p, a V90 rated UHS-II card is more than adequate for 4K30p and most mid & low speed uses and the Z5 can be paired with inexpensive & very robust UHS-1 V30 cards for most users.
My general take is the Z6 is too compromised to make a good action body to really be a better body, the burst feature does AE/AF at 12fps, but it doesn't display a usable viewfinder feed. Unless you shoot a lot of high ISO work or need the much better video of the Z6, the Z5 just makes a lot more sense.
I totally agree on lens cost. The S lenses are superb, but they're out of reach for the Z5 target market. The Z5 to me makes the most sense for the D750 or D6x0 upgrader who already owns a few modern AF-S lenses that they will want to continue to use, likely pairing with either the 24-50 as a tiny walk around lens or the 24-200 as a top-notch all in one lens. Right now none of the current FF mirrorless systems make much sense for a new buyer, or even somebody upgrading to FF from a crop DSLR. Across 4 systems there is one inexpensive telezoom and it's 3rd party (Tamron 70-300 in FE mount), no mid-range UWA zooms (the cheapest is the Tamron 17-28, which is almost double their SLR equivalent 17-35) and outside of Sony the inexpensive primes mostly come down to the Viltrox 85mm and the Canon 50mm f1.8. The only way to do a cheap system new is to go Sony and buy a mix of 3rd party & Sony FE lenses, but they has a high up-front cost to get an A7III or A7c over a Z5 or RP.
Not sure if this is a good D750 replacement. Z5 has poor AF during dim light conditions. W/out the AF assist, it hardly focuses well. D750 would focuses w/the same conditions (w/out AF assist).
I am going to buy one... they are down to $1298... and I bet another $100 off of that by Black Friday in a week... the image quality that was pointed out seemed negligible to me, and likely unnoticeable under routine circumstances... I saw another video comparison in which the reviewer could not produce any difference in the still quality in low light... for me, video is just a bonus and I don't shoot sports, so the 4.5 FPS is not an issue... I was looking for full frame in a smaller package than the traditional DSLR for about $1200. Having sold all my camera equipment years ago (a D610 and my lenses)... I have no legacy lenses any longer and figured I would just start (jump back in) on the all mirrorless platform.
Yeah, most cameras today are so good, people get spoiled. It's more important to know what you want than just getting the best cameras.
I am a still shooter and a light painter. Most of my photography is long exposure, so frame rate is no problem. When I shoot I shoot both Raw and jpg. I like to use one card for each format, so I was excited when I seen that this camera had two card slots. I was considering this camera until this video. The deal breaker for me was not having uncompressed RAW. Obviously, I use a tripod for my long exposures, so having the smaller, lighter camera is really not an issue this type of work. I am currently using both the D750 (w/ power grip) and the D850 (w/o power grip), so I am used to using heavy cameras. In the days of film my favorite camera was the Pentax 645. This camera would be worth the price for me if it were not for not having uncompressed RAW. The Z6 & Z7 I never considered at all because of having one card slot.
You can consider the z6 2 which has two card slots, and if you haven't used the z6, trust me that is one piece of equipment you surely want to purchase.
You're misunderstanding that uncompressed raw is better. It's not - lossless compressed really is lossless, by using uncompressed you're only getting bigger file size at the same quality. I shoot landscapes with a D610 which also has lossless compressed and no uncompressed raw, and raising shadow all day is no issue.
I bought the Z5 used with a lower shutter count and the 24-200 lens used as well very clean together for $1700 dollars. I shot images with it and the results are good? I gave other Nikons D859 and D810 as well I use them all. I bought the Z5 for when I want to travel light and just use one lens.
Would you recommend sony A7 RII or A7 III for outdoor landscape wildlife photography compared to this camera?
My main worry is that those two... dont have weather sealing..
You don't need weather sealing unless your job is covering professional sports or you're a combat photographer. If it's raining, go inside and edit some photos in Lightroom. Or meet a buddy and go grab a brew.
I would love two of these Nikon Z5 camera's.
I really like what Nikon did here, especially combine with one of their f/1.8 prime Z lens!
Too bad it is above my budget :(
Same. Et les occasions vont tarder à arriver...
Sir, my shutter speed becomes very slow when I attached with x2t godox trigger and godox ad200pro in my z5... will you kindly help???
Nice video and z5 is a good camera, I would like to pick up one....card slots not a deal breaker for me still don't think it's entry level price so honestly if the z6 price was to dip same time as z5 I'll pick up a z6 my issue is not so much the camera, but, the Nikon lenses are ridiculously expensive, that's why I haven't switched to Z' system.
I'm not 100% sure but I think the Z6 has dual processors which might be why there's a big difference in some image quality tests. I'm watching this video in August of 2021 so the availability of Z lenses has changed a bit since this video. That said, Tamron and Sigma still do not have any native Z mount lenses as far as I know, which makes the ZTF adapter a must. I'm thinking of getting the Z5 as both my first full frame camera and mirrorless, however I just recently bought a D7500 so we'll see what Nikon does over the next 12 months!
For both Canon and Nikon, why not just use the adapter for the cheap lenses? I for one am glad Nikon and Canon are focusing on high quality glass for their systems rather than cheap lenses. There’s already a huge supply of cheap 50mm SLR primes on eBay that will mount up to these cameras. Personally, for me my choice is still a used D610 for $500 or a used D750 for $750, eventually I’ll add the D780 to that list as well. The great thing about the D610/D750 is that they are super cheap used and they also work with every F-mount lens Nikon has ever made (which can also be had for very cheap on eBay.) I mean you could literally pick up a clean D610 + 50mm F/1.8G combo for about $600. If you can’t get great photos out of that combo....
For someone starting, should they take d750 Or start with mirrorless?
@@garrysingh3337 I’d probably buy a Z5 over a D750, but both are solid. I still use my D600 alongside my Z6ii and the photos are hard to tell apart.
That Nikon 1.8 prices are justified . For example Neither the Canon EF 50 1.8 not the Sony 50 1.8 are remotely close on performance. The 50 1.8 S has Otus like performance . Keep things in perspective please .
I agree.
A year on, and a Z9 in the arsenal, I've decided to transition to Z 100%. I think this might be a good back up camera.
Is there actually a difference in quality when it's lossless compressed? Lossless compression doesn't actually delete any data
Can you compare this to the Fujifilm xt-3 or 4? just for photos
I like the simplicity of it. It does all you want and has good ISO.
In addition to the high price of the native lenses, I am very disappointed by their sizes. Why are the 35mm rangefinder lenses from Leica so much smaller?
Is the screen of the z6 that much yellow?
I have several Nikon DSLRS and was I was considering the purchase of a Z6 which now has a good price since the Z6ii came out but when you look at the price of the lenses, it's crazy expensive to move to Nikon mirrorless. I've read the the adapter doesn't work with all lenses so you could end up with no autofocus. Until recently, Sony was the only player in the FF mirrorless and I thought their lens prices were steep but now Canon and Nikon are also expensive. I understand the cost of development has to be recouped by these companies but for a non-pro, these prices too much. I given up on the idea switching to Nikon mirrorless for now and it's a possibility that I might switch back Canon in a few years.
I got it for a steal! 1k for body only during Christmas and book the next week price went back up 1400$ I think it's the best camera you can get for 1k lol