$999 Full-frame Mirrorless Cameras: Canon RP vs Nikon Z5!
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Tony & Chelsea Northrup review the two least expensive modern full-frame mirrorless cameras: the Canon RP ($999 new body only or $1,800 with the Canon RF 24-240mm lens as a kit) vs the Nikon Z5 ($1,299 new body only or $2,100 with the Nikon S 24-200mm as a kit). What's the best mirrorless camera for beginners?
0:00 Introduction
0:08 Prices
0:40 Why not Sony a7 II?
1:41 Sharpness
2:40 Memory card slots
3:11 Close focusing & maximum magnification
3:34 Dynamic Range
4:25 Portraits
6:48 Flip screen vs tilt screen
7:19 Handling and controls
7:29 Battery life
8:04 Sports & action
8:50 Video test
10:41 Stabilization & handheld low-light photography
11:49 Summary
UPDATE: The Canon RP does have 4k but only up to 25 FPS, without Dual-Pixel autofocus and with a huge 1.76X crop. Sorry for the mistake! It doesn't change any of our conclusions.
Came to say mine has... :)
Terrible battery life super annoying same as a7ii. The Nikon battery lasts a very long time and unlike the Sony doesn’t discharge very fast.
Do they have ProCapture, LiveComposit, starry sky af or 60fps?
RP's 4K is almost unusable for the reason you just said, you can consider it to be 1080p only.
And 4k jello
The Z5 really is an incredible camera for stills. I've shot portraits, weddings, boudoir and family shoots with it and the only issue I've ever had is shooting a sporting event as a hobbyist to expand my skills and hitting the buffer so quick. The low light performance is what really shocked me when I had a client wanting to do a Halloween themed boudoir shoot which we did in a pitch black wooded area just lit by the modeling lamp on an AD400 and it was still tac sharp with no noticeable noise.
As a stills photog I actually find the tilty screen much faster to use in the field than having to flip out and rotate the flippy screen, if I'm switching between using the EVF and the screen. For vloggers it's obviously different, but I just wanted to point out that there's no "winner" between those two screen designs, they're each better for their own purposes.
Both are useful but I prefer tilt as well. For low vertical images though, the flippy screen gets a point.
True. I think the Panasonic S1 / Fujifilm X-T3 design is the best. Quick tilt out for landscape shooting, and the sideways tilt that is very useful for portraits.
@@_shreyash_anand Strong rumors that Nikon's upcoming Z9 is taking this approach as well. To me, a 2-axis tilt screen is much more useful than a flippy (as a photographer-first)
that's easy I have a tilt screen on my GX85 and a flip screen on my G7 and I bought both for less than the price of either of these hehe and they both do 4k better
Agreed. My favourite screen type though is the Fuji x-t100, tilts AND flips out for vlogging
You guys make things really clear and it’s not a loud style full of jump cuts etc. which I appreciate too. One of my favorite photography channels on this website.
Nikon has better evf, better battery, dual sd slots, ibis, better video autofocus at 4k, better dynamic range. How is it such a difficult decision?
And weather sealing
@@mariuseliassen3337 Canon RP is weathersealed!
Because image quality is more important?
@Spinach is there any proof or irl comparison?
@@volodymyr.mksmchk The Nikon is also weathersealed
I'd get that 24-200 checked, it's a waaaaaay sharper lens than what we're seeing in this vid.
It does work differently in the Z6, or even Z50.
This is a comparitive test. Canon glass is sharper. Canon really have figured out how to make good budget glass.
@@nordic5490 sharpness differences of these two lenses aren’t as extreme as what’s presented in this review. I think he had a bad copy
@@nordic5490 My point is - the images representing the 24-200 in this vid are *not* representative of the sharpness of that lens (I own one - it's crazy sharp for a superzoom with that range)
I've had Nikon Z 5 + 24-200 mm for a while now. Really good step up from entry level DX Nikon DSLR. Just need to learn all features of it.
Rest assured, you can use the 24-200 on the Z50 with excellent results.
My copy of the Z 24-200, is sharper than the one you have…
Yeah that lens needs to be calibrated or something
I agree. My Z 24-200 is pretty sharp. Not as good as my Z 50 1.8 but still, I'm very happy with it.
Maybe the Z5 has a stronger anti-aliasing filter than the Canon. For example my M50 + 32 1.4 STM appears sharper when zooming into 200% than my Z6 + 50 1.8S. My assumption is Nikon puts some fairly heavy AA on these lower megapixel cameras.
The 24-200 is easily the sharpest "superzoom" I've ever used. I'm not sure what happened in Tony's images here, but I guarantee something is off somewhere.
Yeah my 24-200 is also much sharper. idk what was going on with that lens.
It’s also important to consider which system you’d prefer to buy into. Most buyers looking at these two are probably buying their first full-frame mirrorless camera. Both manufacturers have vastly different lens lineups with different image quality, at varying prices.
I primarily shoot street photography in low light conditions and railways, requiring zoom lens... can you please throw some light for which more appropriate in terms of option and cost benefit analysis... many thanks
The camera with built in ibis for any lens, the much better sensor, an AF joystick, better stills autofocus, weathersealing, two card slots, better EVF , multiple control dials and easily superior dynamic range isn't the clear winner? Lol, I'm not sure we're doing it right.
It is all about the glass, first and foremost. Without good glass, the game is already lost. Canon excels in cheap high grade glass.
@@nordic5490 You make it sound like Nikon doesn't have good glass based on one video where his copy may have been a bad one.
@Photo Bunny Canon has a cheap 50mm f/1.8, too. In fact other than each of their unique experimental lenses-Canon's f/2 zoom not replicated in Nikon, and Nikon having the 58mm f/0.95 which Canon lack-both the Z and RF lens lines are more-or-less the same. Canon's put a bit more into the tele end and Nikon's put a bit more into the wide end so far, but all the rumour sites agree Canon's got some wides on the way and Nikon will be adding more teles soon enough. So I'm not sure where you were going with that one...
Battery life
Lol. It's an entry-level cameras to FF. So it MUST be around $1000.
Canon RP Body - $1000
Nikon Z5 Body - $1296
Canon RP + 24-105mm - $1300
Nikon Z5 + 24-50mm - $1600
And 24-105mm is much much better as travel & everyday life zoom range.
Nikon also offer 24-200mm bundle but it's very expensive $2000.
So... as entry-level FF user I don't care much about IBIS. I'm not professional, not a sports photographer etc. If I want to shoot at long exposures - I will use a tripod, it's a rule. Also all lenses has IS, so IBIS - is unnecessary for photo enthusiasts.
Better stills autofocus. It's not better enough to pay extra $300. Both autofocus systems are perfect.
Weathersealing. For.. what? Don't understand. Weathersealing is for very difficult conditions. Repeating, it's ==entry level== FF camera. Also weathersealing adding +200g to body. I had D5100 & X-T30 - they don't have weather sealing & perfectly survived under usual rain.
Two card slots. Lol )))
Also as I see Z lenses ecosystem is too expensive & contain many S-Line lenses that is not affordable for Z5 users. For ex if I want to shoot portraits, I will need 50mm. For now:
Nikon Z 50mm f/1,8 S - $600
Canon RF 50mm f/1.8 STM - $200
Canon RP + 24-105mm + 50mm = $1500
Nikon Z5 + 24-50mm + 50mm = $2200
And I will pay much more in future being Nikon ecosystem slave.
I think Nikon marketers are an idiots. They added features to such camera without knowing where it can be used, for what & by whom ))
I recently purchased Nikon Z5 with 24-200 Kit lens. Its simply awesome.
Picked up the Z5 for $999 on sale, along with an FTZ adapter for $99 earlier this summer. The Z5 makes a great second camera for weddings or an inexpensive upgrade to mirrorless if you have a Nikon DSLR. I'm hoping they upgrade the autofocus firmware in the future. I'm really surprised to find two card slots and IBIS on a camera for a thousand bucks. Overall a great camera.
Dang what a steal for the adapter! That's more reasonably priced then the $249 msrp normally
AF update would be awesome!
I have never seen a new Z5 selling for $999.00. Refurbished or open box, but not new. There’s no autofocus firmware for the Z6 or Z5. However, you can learn to use manual focus. Right?
@@ytr8989 (1) You should sign up at the Nikon's site to watch for "deals" emails. The Z5 was truly on sale this past July as follows: "*Z 5 Body Only... Offers valid July 1, 2021 at 12:00 A.M. ET until July 4, 2021 at 11:59 P.M. ET to Nikon Store retail customers only." (2) The auto focus ships with the product, and newer firmware for Z5/6 is available at the Nikon web site. Another is anticipated by the community this fall.
@@ytr8989 i got the Z5 for $1100 with the FTZ adapter on Adorama a couple months ago when it was on sale, gotta keep an eye out for it.
Really like your videos with the banter between Tony and Chelsea.
Tony: That's what you always say when you lose!
Tony on the couch that evening: So worth it!
Love your videos Tony and Chelsea. Informative and entertaining.
As an ex owner of the RP, I have to say my biggest gripe was Dynamic Range. It was on par with my 10 year old T4i... And that sucked! I learned how to shoot around it, but it was frustrating when pulling shadows how easily noise would appear. Overall though, the RP was very capable camera.
Thanks for the comparison. I just bought the Canon RP because I already owned Canon lenses in both EF and EF-S and both the adapter. I have a 5DII and the lenses are sharper on the RP which I was totally awed.
While shooting portraits 'kept expecting Chelsea to encourage Tony to: "Back-up! Back-up!" 🤣
LOL!
Case in Point: With all newer Nikon Cameras, the image Profile requires a reduction on the sharpening Slider.
I've had a lot of Canon cameras with a fully articulated screen, starting with a G3. For me, the benefit is not with filming myself or taking selfies. When you want to get a low angle vertical shot, it can't be beat. I use a G5X with a tilt screen now, and there are times when I've missed having a fully articulated screen.
Exactly, these non portrait photographers always think the articulating screen is only for vlogging...smh
Look how sharp this pepperoni is… he says that with such passion 😂
The RP does have 4K… heavily cropped and contrast based autofocus, but it’s there. I love the 1080 in that cam.
Me too👍
They got alot wrong in this video
I switched to the Z5 because I have an extreme arthritis in my hands I'm 71 they've been truly in for over fifty years and thirty years ago I could carry a hundred pounds of equipment with me but I already had so I got rid of my 750 yet had my 7292 200 at kth and I have enough to buy Z5 with 24-70 at tubby NH
I use the Z 5 with F lenses and it works great, since the image stabilisation is on the body I don't lose that feature, also I can take advantage of Nikons huge catalog of lenses so there are more options to buy cheap and good ones.
When you say huge catalog of lens - I am not clear. If I am not wrong, one can only use dedicated lens for mirrorless, which are quite few and expensive.. please help on this
@@a2zadi you are correct Nikon makes dedicated Z lenses because its a different build than DSLR. Since it limits lens type to Z, Nikon has also made an adaptor for the DSLR lenses to be also mounted onto the Z body for usage so if you switch to Nikon mirrorless, you are still able to use your old lenses with the adaptor and it works just as great. thats what he means by the huge catalog of lenses. Your choices in lenses remains broadened and not limited to just Z. You can purchase those to use on the Nikon Z with the mount called FTZ and itll be much cheaper than investing in the actual Z lenses because theyre alot more expensive
People slate the a7ii but I think it’s incredible. The autofocus isn’t anywhere near as bad as people say it is. It’s been a game changer for me as someone who wanted to enter the mirrorless market
Awesome video! I love the competition between you two!! Cool video.
I own the Z5 and think it is the most under rated comera in the Nikon line.
Odd that the Nikon 24-200 was so much softer. Other reviews pretty much rave about many Z lenses including this one.
Looks like motion blur to me, especially the first image. I got z5 with 24-200 and couple other lenses. It is much sharper than what we see in the video. The difference between it and my primes comes down to corners and open apertures pretty much.
@@sergeychekanskiy30 Maybe Tony’s getting on a bit while Chelsea could be nicknamed “Tripod Chelsea”. ;)
@@sergeychekanskiy30 looks like motion blur to me also. I have seen amazingly sharp images from this lens.
My 24-200 is very sharp. I don't know if it is Tony or if it's that particular lens.
They could have gotten a bad copy, or it could be that the 24-200mm is not an S series lens. The S series lenses are far superior.
Thank you. Your videos have been very helpful. I am a recreational photographer that started on a used APSC Canon and looking to upgrade now that I have a clue. 🤣 I basically pretended the camera only had "M" on the dial for over a year. The RP is on the short list and this video has gotten me closer to a decision. (a friend has been pushing Sony A7ii) Also thanks for the walk through Mystic. I haven't been there since I was a kid visiting family friends from NYC. Great town. The view has me missing the northeast. I have been subscribed for a while and enjoy your content. Thank you both.
Thanks for the video, the minimum full frame mirrorless is just what most amateurs (like me) need. Purchased an RP because it was the cheapest full frame mirrorless at the time. Moved up from Canon 60D.
I had a canon 80D and bought a RP because I wanted a fullframe but I really miss the battery life, the big solid grip and the button and dial layout which allowed me in manual to set aperture, shutterspeed and iso while looking the whole time through the viewfinder. The extra on/off-switch is so unnesesary. I really wish they would have just reused the layout from DSLRs like the 80D.
Before I traded my 80D for an A7II I used my touch screen a lot- I am going back - probably to the RP - love the touch screen.
Been using the RP for over a year, the battery life is perfectly fine.
Great video 🔥 need to see more videos about Z5✨
Tony question: Do you think Canon will come out with a 1.4 50mm RF lens? and 2) if you had an R6 and already a 1.4 50mm lens with the adapter ring, would you buy the 1.8 at this time and leave the 50mm 1.4 for whenever you use your DSLR's? Thanks in advance for your reply.
There's something wrong with your copy of the Nikon 24-200mm. I watched Christopher Frost lens review and the Nikon is actually sharper than the Canon.
And why do you think we're wrong?
@@TonyAndChelsea I'm not saying you're wrong, the lens you used probably is not in perfect condition lol because the samples I saw on many sites don't look like that. The images are too soft.. Hope you try a different one.
@@woodnymph7393 review I read had 3 samples and said one of them was decentered so I wonder if that’s what happened here
@@TonyAndChelsea You are putting the cameras AA filter into the equation when doing a 200% sharpness comparison. I believe Nikon's AA filters are stronger than Canon's. For example my M50 32 1.4 STM produces sharper images (at 200%) than my Z6 50 1.8S. Most reviews on the internet probably tested the lens on a Z7 w/o AA filter to conclude its sharper.
@@TonyAndChelsea it’s think you guys probably had a bad copy. I use the 24-200 as a light walk around landscape lens and it’s much sharper than the examples in this video.
Love my RP, but the one really disappointing thing about it is the battery. You should have a couple of extras
you didn't pointed out that the Z5 is weather sealed when the Canon RP is not.
With the dual card slots, that makes it even more suited for profesionnal use
Rp has some weather sealing also
@@capture_the_stoke9646 Yes, a cheapskate WR kind of. Z5 is being sealed to the same Standards as Z6/Z7 Series. Z5 is much better, IBIS, DualCard Slots, 3.68 MP EVF, etc. The Z5 is more a advanced DSLM, rather than a beginners FF Camera, like the EOS RP truly is. Nikon is missing a nice 24-105/F4 S Class Zoom Lens, but therefore, the 24-70/F4 S is really nice & cheap also, bundled. Northrups are Canon & Sony based, always.
@@marcp.1752 Totally agree, and not stopping the lens down to it's best perfomance range and saying the Canon is sharper is rediculous. The RP uses an old sensor based on the 6D Mkii and has poor dynamic range as shown in the video, that single issue is enough to put it out the running. They didn't want to upset Canon.
@@capture_the_stoke9646 But not into the same kind of the Z6/Z7 Series, and the Z5 is according to Nikon exactly like that - no compromise.
@Nate Dog Dunno what's your point exactly, but the Z5 is much better than the EOS RP. 3.68 MP EVF, IBIS (!), WR as good as the Z6/Z7 (II) Series, and better DR than the Canon EOS RP. The RP is really inferior - a Fullframe Sensor from the 6D II basically into the Entry Level EOS RP body, that's it. The IBIS and weather Sealing alone, plus the Weather Sealing is a extraordinary plus into this Pricerange, and the Z5 could being bought mint starting from 850 EUR, at least into germany.
I have been very impressed with the dynamic range on the Canon RP with kit lens.
Imagine how much more impressed you would be with the nikon
I had this same debate over the two camera’s and went with the Nikon Z5 and some lenses. One of the biggest factors for me was weather sealing. That Nikon combo is fully sealed and the RP combo is not. If you’re outdoors in mist/light rain or snow/spray that’s an important feature worth considering. Or dusty conditions. Overall though that’s all the same points pondered deciding between the two. The Z5 also improved the low light AF performance a few months ago in a firmware update which is greatly improved.
But Canon Rp is weathersealed according to Canon website
@@volodymyr.mksmchk Many of the lenses are not unfortunately. Much of the Z lens lineup is. For example the 24-200 Z is extensively sealed, I’ve actually soaked it and the camera in heavy rain. The 24-240 Canon lens is not. Canon stuck to the model of only sealing very expensive L glass. Nikon sealed almost all the Z glass other than the DX line. My 35/85 1.8 S lenses cost far less than L and have the same sealing capability. I had no options in Canon at the price range the Z5 is offered. This actually killed Canon as an option for me.
A bunch of great information, loved the 4k 60 on my tv ❤️
I just bought the RP. I think you have to consider future lens purchases. Canons are generally more inexpensive and I plan to move up to a more substantial body sooner or later and use the RP as a backup. And everything I read about photo autofocus leans Canon.
I think comparing one of these two cameras with something like the a6400/a6600 from Sony would be interesting for people who aren't sure which may be better for them, going with a cheaper full frame or with a more expensive aps-c
I know you weren't serious 😁
The places where the Z5 I feel really shine are dual card slots and IBIS, along with very good high ISO performance. The RP from what I've heard from friends who shoot with it, they like it, but it's not quite the same and probably a step below. The advantage of the RP though is the access to more native lenses in the R mount, plus lenses using the EF adapter. Same goes for Nikon but Nikon has fewer native lenses for the Z at the time of this writing. But for many, I think the dual card slots and IBIS will be important, especially perhaps for a pro using the Z5 as a backup camera body to say a Z7-series or a DSLR.
I am drinking every time Tony says 2 card slots. ;)
I need advice Tony and Chelsea, I want a still and video function camera, for professional works, the two options I have Nikon d7000 vs Nikon d3300 which should I choose
Do the new batteries in the r5 and R6 for the rp and have the greater charge than the older Canon batteries? I've been slowly removing old batteries and replacing with the newer model
I have a R5 and 3 of the new batteries. These are larger capacity than my 5d4 batteries, but all play together - same charger even.
@@nordic5490 but I'm curious if the new batteries have the same bigger charge in the older cameras
“Looks how sharp that pepperoni is”
Me: 😂
Makes me wonder how sharp a copy of the 24-200 Tony got and verified a good copy? As many youtube and photography websites reviewers tout how sharp this lens is. My copy is sharp as many reviewers even compare it to getting close to prime territory.
And concerned about the heavy focus on each with just the one kit lens. Which really doesn't show the camera to their full capabilities. More critical in my eyes isn't how sharp a particular lens is. But FPS more in-depth AF speed in more moving scenarios. Show me real dynamic range & recovery by overexposing 4-5 stops and recovering highlights and shadows.
As couldn't find a full serious used daily/monthly review of the Z5 from Tony or Chelsea. Chelsea and others extended use in the field and sharing of experiences sold me on the D500. Z5 nada except in compares against other camera's they have experience with using. Guess to be expected as they are die hard Sony/Canon users now?
Being in the Canon sandbox so to speak, I would have to go with the RP plus the EF-RF adapter and use my lenses until I could afford a new RF lens. Ideally I would choose the R6 but I can't afford that so yeah, it will probably be the RP when I finally switch to mirrorless. And at this point, anything will be an improvement to my ancient Canon T1i!
I've been looking and you can get the z6 for less than 1k now. That's definitely the go to if you have Nikon glass and don't need two slots.
The cameras are well compared. Even the R would have had difficulties. What I have different experience is with the superzooms. The Canon is especially less sharp on the edges as the corrections are really massive (much more than needed on the Nikon) especially on the wide end. I had the Nikon 24-200 always equally sharp in the middle and sharper on the edges (but the Nikon edges were also less sharp than in the center), so I assume your Nikon lens perhaps is not correctly adjusted? The Canon Portrait colors are better but the Nikon nails the exposure and flashes (you should recommend some good but not too expensive ones like the Godox ones).
Hi Chelsea and Tony:
Noticed that you haven't made a video yet concerning 'maximizing your camera for photos in low light situations'. Yeah, change the ISO and use good glass on a full frame. But like everything else in photography, it isn't that simple and cheats and help hints can be done. Also, bare minimums of camera and lenses expectations should be pointed out.
I used to shoot tornadoes and severe storms a decade ago (using nothing more than a XTi and a 10-22mm Canon), so naturally it is of interest to me; but as a subject it has not best fully explained that I've seen. But many novice indoor shots also suffer high ISO noise from lack of proper knowledge of low light conditions and improper gear utilization. Take this concept as a challenge.
tony photos says that chealsea is better photographer. you people always inspire because you are a good couple and equally respect talent of each other
You do have 4K mode in the Canon RP it's just without good auto focus and it's cropped
Nice full review, thanks
Thanks for the reviews.
Looks like a very close call between the two. I was foiled at first because I thought Tony had the Canon. I’ve sold all my gear again, and back to using the old D3300 again. But the Z50 and 24-200 Z lens got me lots of sharp images, so maybe 🤔 could be the Z5. The D3300 video was the also first video review of yours that I watched. I even cancelled my GFX100S preorder.
You two make good models. Good video. Fun to watch.
Am I missing something, my RP has 4K (with crop like the Nikon)
You are right, they got that completely wrong.
Hey Tony, what about it? Correction in order?
Yes it is true, but the RP reverts to contrast-detect autofocus when 4k is being recorded. That's why I think they said what they said.
I had a canon 80D and bought a RP because I wanted a fullframe but I really miss the battery life, the big solid grip and the button and dial layout which allowed me in manual to set aperture, shutterspeed and iso while looking the whole time through the viewfinder. The extra on/off-switch is so unnesesary. I really wish they would have just reused the layout from DSLRs like the 80D.
Ugh I have the canon 80D now, I knew I was going to miss those things when I switch but I need to upgrade this canon 80D 🤦🏽♀️
I don't know anything new about the camera, please answer my question I want to use this link Sigma 105mm f1.4 Can I use this lens with Nikon z5 without adapter now?
I have a Nikon D610 along with a 50mm 1.8G and a 85mm 1.8G. would it be worth it to upgrade to a Z5 and use a FTZ adapter?
Are full frame Canon DSLR lenses compatible with full frame Canon mirrorless cameras?
I moved up to the Z5 from the d3400 and the full frame 2card slots and ev viewfinder and i don't regret anything besides the battery life
Hi if you had to pick or buy one camera what would it be? a Canon Nikon Sony etc.
always enjoy your videos.
You guys are amazing and I have learnt a lot this few weeks watching your videos, I started off with a basic startup Canon t100 camera, I'm looking to upgrade what camera would you recommend is best for *street photography* , lowlight, and portrait
Have you used the Nikon with a lens greater contrast and or resolving capabilit?
Really interesting how well the Z5 autofocus performed considering how much flack Nikon Z's take for their AF performance (as Z6ii user I know that the AF is far better than some UA-camrs are claiming...and yes I know the RP AF is not going to be as good as the R5 and R6)
i have both z5 and z6, Z6 is superior. imagine Z6II is even better (my english is not so good)
@@MarcoLoforte your english was fine :)
@M Tech this is why I avoided the Z5 as a wedding photographer. I am pleased with the Z6ii low light AF performance.
@M Tech Price. It has to be worse than the more expensive models otherwise there's no point. It's still excellent value. Nikon themselves would say it is not intended for pro use (they even say that about the Z6ii lol).
What zoom lens would you suggest for the Nikon to get sharper photos for a long time non-professional? Mainly for travel and not sports.
Love you guys chemistry.
Lack of dual card slot on RP: For backing up photos in RP you can connect your cellphone and any picture taken is automatically transferred to your phone. Set up was fairly easy.
We just haven't found that to be reliable enough for professional use. it also hammers the battery.
@@TonyAndChelsea Correct, certainly not a replacement for professionals. Also when connected to phone you cannot use phone’s WiFi.
The Canon has a tilty flippy screen and the Nikon doesn't. End of story! I got a refurbished RP direct from Canon for just $600 about a month ago and I've been blown away by what it can do.
Hey Tony&Chelsea. Do you guys know when canon is releasing the new canon eos r mark ii? and if not is it worth buying the older model?
Look for used R5/R6.... If you have EF lenses already... Definitely worth the money on R5/R6. It revives all of my old 1st gen EF lens in the 90s
Sir Please Tell me Which Camera this Video Shoot
Much needed comparison
Thanks for the video! I'd appreciate alot if you guys could compare Nikon Z6, Sony A7III and Canon R.
Good video. The comparison was between cameras and I don’t know how canon got the first 4 points, oh wait, it was because of the lens…….
Yes, good glass is the winning formula.
I liked the way you two played against each other!
I have an rp and love it for what I do.
I have not had any issues that aren’t related to my current skill and ability, but I am learning more all the time.
It’s a good starting point for an amateur/enthusiast into the mirrorless, full frame world. I know I will eventually upgrade my camera, but for the time being, I find the rp to do a great job for its price point.
I know they stated that RP doesn't have 4K in the video, but it does in 24 fps in crop mode. The dial has to be in movie mode to select it.
exacly, it was a tie here, at least pdaf on the Nikon apart from the crop.
My mistake. I added an update. It's probably because we didn't shift it to movie mode.
Regarding the dual card slots. I can't ever imagine doing a wedding with either of these unless a backup. At that point the dual card slot becomes more of a moot point. Also, I've been shooting a long time and honestly, NEVER had a card failure. I always in camera format the card and I don't use them forever.
a big miss that should have been talked about if looking for budget full frame was the lens each body support. I only know canon really so i know the RP has access to all the EF glass and that canon also is making really good budget RF glass.
I am jumping from Canon 700D to a full frame camera. I would add another USD700 to go for Canon R, postpone the purchase of RF lenses, use old EF lenses instead. I am not a professional photographer. I just need the fps to take panning photos. I am still not quite sure if I am right to go for R instead of RP.
I like really colours on this video, what camera did you use? Apart from drone footage, thanks nice comparison 👍
Canon 24-240 is a fantastic lens, it sharp & detail at all focal length contrast as good as L lenses thanks God Canon didn't label it with red ring
Hey, guys. I've been following you for some time. I also have your book. Great stuff by the way. I've actually been using a Canon Rebel T6i but feel I'm ready for an upgrade. Two questions from your point of view. Is the Canon RP a better choice just for quality as a step up for a photographer going from the T6i and can I use the same lenses/glass as I have a number of lenses. Thanks in advance for your reply and great material, Tony & Chelsea.
That is the sassiest I've ever seen Tony. Ever. Nice review. I do suspect that 24-200 copy you had was a bad one though. I am very surprised at how bad the battery is on the Canon - maybe that's also a bad copy. For a consumer camera the truly flippy flip screen is definitely a plus too. I think as a pure still camera without the need for high framerates or high-end tracking and AF, I'd just get the Nikon (ignoring which lenses I already have).
Yup those seem to be the main takeaways from this video. I'd add to it that bad copy or not, the sharpness difference is minor, while the battery life difference seems outright shocking. If that battery life is not the result of a bad copy, it would immediately rise to number one on my ranking of decision factors, dropping the Canon like a brick.
I suspect the Canon battery is not just a bad copy. The battery life on these batteries suck... and I'm a Canon guy.
I think it’s the same, tiny battery as the M5, life is pretty awful.
I enjoyed this video. It was fun to listen to and see you in action and hear the delightful verbal rapartee. "You always way that, when you lose." lol
Thank you for the insights. I am not yet in the market for a new camera but will be sooner rather than later.
So with the rp, you can back up to your phone via Wi-fi, two card slots are not the only option for redundancy.
Could you tell me if one be better for bird photography?
I just bought a used RP with a 24-105 EF F4 L for 950$. A good price I think. But the Z5 seems to be clearly the better camera.
I own an RP with a 16-35L lens. Nice camera, poor dynamic range and poor battery. I am not a professional and got it for a good enough deal that I am okay with it but I probably wouldn't buy it again.
To be fair it's an older camera. I bet any replacement will be amazing. Canon's come a long way, now arguably making better cameras than Sony (except for the very special A1).
RP sensor was outdated when it came out in the 6D2. And not using the LP-E6 series battery was another big mistake
If possible, tradein for R5/R6... The RF 15-35L/EF 16-35L will unlock its full potential
@@zegzbrutal Trade in an entry level camera with a kit lens for a pro camera with pro lenses? That's not the best advice I've heard...
@@gyozakeynsianism I did not say trade the lens. Just the body.... Didn't you see my next line? The lens will do much better on R5/R6
I just bought a refurb RP for $600. And a refurb 24-105 f4-7.1 for $120. I would have preferred the Z5, but for that money, I'm OK with the RP. Looking forward to upgrading to the R5 one day.
so what is the price of lenses in each system?
As for nikon batteries I was shooting a lot of fashion events and let me say that only once I had to change the battery, and it was the one lasted for 10 hours. On a regular 3-5 hours photoshoot with around 500-1000 pictures taken the battery still has half of juice.
Wow, that's good, but why Nikon only claim it can take on 470 picture?. I consider this camera for wedding photography.. usually i take around 800~1300 picture along event.. hmm.. so should I standby 1 more battery or just using my D7200 battery EN-EL15 Li-ion20?
I see these things about such terrible battery life on the rp.
I’ve gone out and taken several hundred photos in a day and never depleted my battery when I do.
I enjoy the rp, but I am looking to possibly upgrade soon enough.
In Spain both cost the same; 1139 €. You missed the fact that Nikon also has 1/8000 shutter.
I don't like LRs default detail settings on raw, at all. Every body I have, I use different settings to firm up the "raw" sharpening, if you will.
I’ve been experimenting with using manual AF mode again. That’s the simple answer to the AF problems. Which of the two cameras work better in manual mode focus?
I tried the RP evf with 70-200 and was shocked how bad it looked compared to Z5. I can’t imagine manual focusing with it. My R6 has a great evf that’s easy to manual focus. Focus by wire makes things more difficult but focus peaking helps.