I think its a second top hat. You already brought up the footers being the same style as the original top hat. That keychain as a red and a black "top hat like" feature to it. The teaser video and the photo on the wbsite shows a black top hat. So could we be getting a magnet theme, and keeping the red top hat and adding the black top hat just like the keychain? I definitely think the black top hat in the teaser video was more of ahint than people gave it credit for
There are other supports on the existing tophat that would need to go up,where would they go with iron dragon being there and why didn't they pour those footers when they did the rest.Lets not forget the lagoon that is over there,anymore footers will need to go in the water so they would have done that with the other 3.Very expensive to pour concrete in water.Not to mention the spike track would go right over the dragon so they are limited that way so the trains don't collide.
What if it’s a layout extension AND a top hat. I think that it would launch and go up the Red top hat, then do a couple overbanks, maybe an airtime hill or two before going up the taller black top hat and do another set of overbanks to burn off speed. The could make the black top hat right behind the red top hat, so the blacks and red top hats will look like they’ve been layered on top of each other from a certain angle
That key chain isn’t related to the dragster layout bc on the key it says “cp” which would stand for Cedar Point. It has nothing to relate to the layout
It’s definitely not just you! Many of us raised this very issue in the referenced video which also neglected to mention what seems obvious to many of us!
There will not be a second top hat. The footers are not in the same formation as you said. They are backwards. And also off center from the other top hat. Sorry! 😂
Obviously everything is possible, Double Top Hat or a Spike. However, I prefer they would go with the Spike as it seems more logical, and rides like Pantheon have shown how awesomely fun a vertical spike is. Either way, I will make a 2024 / 2025 trip to Cedar Point just to ride the new Dragster!
I don’t understand where the rumor for the second top hat came from and why everyone thinks this is happening. The way the footer is shaped is for a vertical spike, and I also don’t see where they would have room for a second top hat. I’m sure there’s probably a way to make room but it doesn’t seem likely. That said, good work on the video
Im with you on that... I think its a spike of some sort.. And I think the Key chain is just a stylized CP for "Cedar Point". Key chain... new "formula" for thrills... I think its going to be a formula one theme.
Formula 1 theme and with a new launch system and extended track makes sense based on the subtle clues so far. The key chain looks like a C and P with definite magnet vibes. The top of the C and the bottom of the P could be the new "hills" making it more circuit like if they meant it to be a view from above...idk lol
Ok, looking at the keychain, we have what appears to be a simple case of the CP for Cedar Point, of course, but we also have what appears to be, not one, but 2 magnets. We know they are putting in a spike, thats a given based on the footers. My postulation is everyone is looking at the spike all wrong, it wont be a swing launch, its going to be a shuttle coaster. The duality of the keychain hints that there will be a dual loading station like Mr. Freeze at SFOT. You will launch the same way as normal, crest the top hat, go unto a speed hill, and ascend the spike. Then, the train is launched again, but this time backwards, through the entire course back to the station. Lastly, the colors of the keychain are the same as the needle on a compass, hinting toward the polaris theme concept. Just a thought.
thats what I thought too... CP... for Cedar Point. And a key chain??? plus a new "formula" for thrills... I think its all but confirmed its going to be a formula one theme.
agreed... looks like a bigger version of the spike supports on something like pantheon... just a lot more spread out obviously for supporting something much taller.
@@Frankenberrythe spikes supports on pantheon look almost identical but smaller to the new supports behind dragster so i agree but could this mean it’s also intamin involved?
@@nicholasbonfiglio820 I certainly hope so... The idea of Zamperla working on Top thrill dragster for anything other than new trains makes my stomach bubble lol.
@@nicholasbonfiglio820 I heard on one of the enthusiast channels (can't remember which) a while back that Cedar Fair suits were down at Universal IOA checking out Velocicoaster a few months ago. In my opinion, they were checking out their work to see if the hype was real. I'm almost willing to bet the farm that Intamin is at least involved.
I feel like Dragster is going to be longer than what people are saying not just a spiral and back or a double top hat and back I think we could see something to Velociacoaster at Universal, because I heard rumors that CP was at IOA and the fact that they removed Frobbiden Frontier. Makes me feel like this coaster will be longer than what people think idk that’s my opinion though.. Tony Clark once said that that there will be coaster even better than steel Vengeance and I think this is that project.
idk why people think that lsm's cant aaccerate ftaser? ive riden red force at portaventura in spain and that kicks ass, yes it dosnt accelerate as fast at the start. but the acceleration is constant the entire launch. all they need to do is make the train enter on the switch track halfway down the launch track, launch backwards maybe 60-80 mph up the spike, and then reach the 120+ needed on the way forwards. it should be easy
I'm going to keep posting my theory (especially in case it comes true). I think it's going to be a dueling launch with two vertical spikes (or 2 tracks up 1 spike, hopefully 500ft+), and a criss-cross over the existing top hat. This would greatly improve capacity, while giving each launch 'side' a slightly different experience, thereby encouraging MORE ridership (to do both).
My question is do the new footers triangle shape face the same direction of the existing top hat? Looks like it in the pictures. Current footer V points away from the station. New footer V points towards the station?
It also looks like the replay/repeat button 🔁 what if it'll have that figure 8 loop intamin posted some months ago? Capacity will be no problem with this new switch track trend
New theory. The new top hat is the first hat you go over. The train starts where the original brake run ends. They utilize Intamin's vertical launch where they send you 500' up. On your way down, you follow the original launch track and go over the original top hat. Here, you break a speed record.
Ive been saying space theme. “Top thrill Spaceter”. Its been my comments for months now. Glad i found this channel today. Seems like the only person speaking truth, and using logic.
I think the logo looks like 2 letter P’s for Polaris back to back and flipped so you can read the P from each direction. This would also reference the “poles” on opposite ends as Polaris is the star almost directly above the North Pole.
The Dual top hats depicted in the simulation make more sense and looks well organized. Id be impressed if it becomes reality. I Look at what i had imagined for the mean Streak, to take the DNA from a coaster like the Gemini and create a wooden/steel hybrid hypercoaster 🙂🙂
Hate to shatter everybody's space themed fantasy, but if you actually look up generic clipart for a race track, the proportions are identical to the logo. The graphic designer more than obviously referenced that when making the logo.
I think its almost unquestionable now that its a Formula one theme... I mean, "A new FORMULA for thrills"... Then they give out Key chains for the first riders event??? That bout seals the deal to me. I'll be VERY surprised if it's anything other than that.
I don’t really care what they do, just do it already! I want to ride it. I never got to ride TTD! I’m ready to ride!! No matter what they do, I bet it will be bad ass!😊
Assuming your younger, I was in my late teens when dragster opened before the era of fast passes.I never rode ttd either due to not wanting to wait 3 hours.Thats what the cue times were,ii remember there being a 4.5 hr wait the year it opened. I'm excited the new dragster will open and take the line down for maverick..People are overthinking this whole thing..New trains,paint,theme and a spike will be what happens
Im with you on that lol... I just want to ride the damn thing lol... and PRAY it's at least AS good as it was. It's been my number one for many, many, years... I miss it horribly lol.
Reverse launch up the spiral side of the top hat. The height and drop will be record because they will extend downwards 40 ft. (460 height) (420 drop.) Then you speed to a beyond vertical spiral. Picture wicked twister but more than 90 degrees. Maybe 115 degrees or so. Might be around 310 ft tall. Heavy themed. Nebula fire is the name. Second half is painted blue
Two things. 1) I do think that the keychain will be for a first riders event.... However, I don't think it's the logo for the ride.... I think its a stylized CP for "Cedar Point". 2) Think about this.... The first teaser says a "New Formula for thrills"... THEN, they give you a Key Chain for a first rider event???? Those two things put together tells me one thing.... It's going to be a "Formula one" theme. :) Just my opinion
Tony Clark never, ever, said the keyring would be needed for "a ride". He made other comments, but never, ever, said it would be needed for "a ride". It's a "C" and it's a "P".
@@coasterfreakjr. But you say right in your video the keyring will be needed "for a ride". That is NOT true. 1:05 or so. That's my point. Tony Clark NEVER said it.
I don’t see it happening. They would need to modify or remove Iron Dragon before there would be room as well as a complete second set of footers. They’re not going to remove a coaster to make a second top hat. There’s not enough room dimensionally without that also happening. Picture the *width* not just the height.
I see the second top hat being either shorter mayber 300 feet becuase you still have to stop the train without making it too forceful or i feel like instead of a second top hat it could be a massive over bank turn the only problem is the footers dont really match but just a theory
There's no way they're fitting a taller top hat where the new footers are and I don't see them adding anymore footers. I still like the swing launch with a spike theory
The keychain looks like the original layout in the ride manual that they give ride host when you work there, but the parts that go outward , are in my opinion hinting that there is going to be an extended layout since they key chain design is not a complete circuit . I also thought that it could also mean there are 2 switch tracks included. However the keychain at the moment looks like what dragster is at its current status. So Im pretty sure they are added to the layout.
Think about it. Another top hat or a spike, they’ll have a 400 ft coaster and a 500 ft all in one so they can still make the 400 ft claim and then the first 500 ft claim.
I'm sure they will break either a height or speed record. Not sure if it will be a world wide record or a US record, but they will do something to that effect I suspect.
I agree! I think it will be one of those more unique records that will be awhile until another park breaks it. I don't think it will be the record we're all thinking about tho
It’s cp but it’s the new color scheme for ttd that being said, it’s definitely going to be named Polaris as well.. but this particular keychain just reads CP but the supports will be grey and track red.
@@ChrisD72meaning what? Like they are talking about it too much? I agree it's definitely talked about way too much but we're all excited about it. Remember when people said dragster was getting tore down? and everyone said we were in "la-la land" and dreaming, or knew nothing about coasters if we thought they were going to do anything to re-make TTD😂 Now we're watching footers being poured for an expansion of some sort so obviously people aren't crazy something very exciting and major is being done. You can never count Cedar Point out! They are always going to come up with something to amaze us!
well the thing i would like to see is a 2 track top thrill dragster with 2 stations so u race against eachother on 2 tracks on the same top hat only made stronger to support 2 trains . so u have side by side race . then u have the first ever dueling strata coaster , with worlds first vertical twist high 5 . and i think the keychain could mean a switch so they could to my believe get rid of the old tophat and reconstruct it at the other side . and make a switch in the stations so it can ride more people but also both cars could be launched from both stations . so to say like its actually looking like 2 coaster except its only one coaster built to look like 2
i like the idea of a dbl to hophat, that way is a full circuit so they can claim the hieghth record, i think they could do 500ft just to get teh record of Terracoaster and with no technicalaties as it would b a complete circuit
Dont think 2 top hats, but I agree with the logo.. There is U with a tail 2 times.. So launch on opposite side, up and over top hat, up a huge spike and then reverse. so you will do the top hat twice, and not sure going back will be backward.. what if the trains can turn 180 degrees on the spike so you are forward at the highest speeds both directions. I am not oppose to going 120+ mph backwards though. A big Mr Freeze. If tower is really tall we can see a huge speed increase as well because they could slow you down before hitting second top hat.
Cp key chain . Cedar Point? They only have to one up what ever they have now . So it could be a multitude of things. I think the footings are a bit of a giveaway.
@@nicholasbonfiglio820 I doubt it too, but taking that keychain as a map and putting all the recent activity and speculation and what is possible with switch tracks... And my official dream world prediction is two top hats and 2 spikes. One twisted spike and the other beyond vertical. The new top hat is 500' and the old one gets flipped into the world's tallest inversion!
Huge CP fan...go there all the time, but this "re-imagining" of Top Thrill really does nothing for me. I think they were stuck though...the plot of land is just skinny and long, so their options are lucky. a long wait for a super short ride is just not buy thing.
Hear me out what if there's 2 launches 2 trains 2 top hats at the same time? one goes one way the other goes the other way. faster lines more overall rides on the day. that would be insane
I really don’t care what they do with dragster as long as they hit 500 ft. I have never ridden a strata but Kingda Ka is fairly near me so I’d much rather ride a 500 foot dragster than another strata coaster.
Cedar Point wouldn't be the first to break the 500 foot barrier with a T-Rex if they waited til then. There's that Six Flags 525 foot coaster that is opening next year. I would think they would want to continue the trend of being the first to break each new 100 foot mark. This gives them the best opportunity to be able to do that, just ahead of Six Flags coaster opening later the same year. 555 sounds like the pefect number to me and makes for good marketing too.🤷♂️ It would also cement them into having tbe tallest roller coaster in the world for probably a long time (unless the polar coaster ever actually happened, but even then, the drops on that are small and thats not exactly the same thing).
I don't understand why there would be 2 tophats, basically 2 experiences pretty much the same, cuz how different could U make 2 tophats......it just sounds redundant 2 me just saying dude
I think you are smoking crack if you really believe they are adding a second tophat. An extension to 500ft if anything is most likely as wild it will get. Otherwise just likely a new theme and alterations to the launch.
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I think its a second top hat. You already brought up the footers being the same style as the original top hat. That keychain as a red and a black "top hat like" feature to it. The teaser video and the photo on the wbsite shows a black top hat. So could we be getting a magnet theme, and keeping the red top hat and adding the black top hat just like the keychain? I definitely think the black top hat in the teaser video was more of ahint than people gave it credit for
can i get a link for the website?
There are other supports on the existing tophat that would need to go up,where would they go with iron dragon being there and why didn't they pour those footers when they did the rest.Lets not forget the lagoon that is over there,anymore footers will need to go in the water so they would have done that with the other 3.Very expensive to pour concrete in water.Not to mention the spike track would go right over the dragon so they are limited that way so the trains don't collide.
What if it’s a layout extension AND a top hat. I think that it would launch and go up the Red top hat, then do a couple overbanks, maybe an airtime hill or two before going up the taller black top hat and do another set of overbanks to burn off speed. The could make the black top hat right behind the red top hat, so the blacks and red top hats will look like they’ve been layered on top of each other from a certain angle
That key chain isn’t related to the dragster layout bc on the key it says “cp” which would stand for Cedar Point. It has nothing to relate to the layout
@@NickC_21 where does it SAY CP? It looks like 2 elongated circles to me.
Is it just me, or could the keychain also be interpreted as C/P for Cedar Point?
It’s definitely not just you! Many of us raised this very issue in the referenced video which also neglected to mention what seems obvious to many of us!
That's what I keep seeing to, just a cp
I said that the second i saw this
That was the first thing I thought of.
exactly
There will not be a second top hat. The footers are not in the same formation as you said. They are backwards. And also off center from the other top hat. Sorry! 😂
Even in maverick wait line you see posters talking about how top thrill dragster 2.0
That is assuming they would build the same way they did 20 years ago😊
@@sushiyamaster989 you mean like how the video is shown to demonstrate? Lol
I think the two triangular footers near Iron dragon line up perfectly
@@chrissmall2305 it does indeed but the footer formations are very strand it’s like the supports for the spike would go into the track
Yeah, it says CP for cedar point. However I think it has many coincidences.
I agree with you
Came to mention this as well I was waiting for him to point out the CP.
Problem I see is a roll back on the second top hat would cause big issues. How would you deal with rollbacks on the second top hat?
maybe a tranfertrack for emergencies? (could also connect to the maintenance shed)
Your point is valid 👌
Obviously everything is possible, Double Top Hat or a Spike.
However, I prefer they would go with the Spike as it seems more logical, and rides like Pantheon have shown how awesomely fun a vertical spike is.
Either way, I will make a 2024 / 2025 trip to Cedar Point just to ride the new Dragster!
The colors on that keychain would be a nice color for the new dragster. Black supports red track😮👀
I don’t understand where the rumor for the second top hat came from and why everyone thinks this is happening. The way the footer is shaped is for a vertical spike, and I also don’t see where they would have room for a second top hat. I’m sure there’s probably a way to make room but it doesn’t seem likely. That said, good work on the video
The the new footers are exactly the same as the top hat footers. A big triangle.
Im with you on that... I think its a spike of some sort.. And I think the Key chain is just a stylized CP for "Cedar Point". Key chain... new "formula" for thrills... I think its going to be a formula one theme.
Formula 1 theme and with a new launch system and extended track makes sense based on the subtle clues so far. The key chain looks like a C and P with definite magnet vibes. The top of the C and the bottom of the P could be the new "hills" making it more circuit like if they meant it to be a view from above...idk lol
Hmmm
Ok, looking at the keychain, we have what appears to be a simple case of the CP for Cedar Point, of course, but we also have what appears to be, not one, but 2 magnets. We know they are putting in a spike, thats a given based on the footers. My postulation is everyone is looking at the spike all wrong, it wont be a swing launch, its going to be a shuttle coaster. The duality of the keychain hints that there will be a dual loading station like Mr. Freeze at SFOT. You will launch the same way as normal, crest the top hat, go unto a speed hill, and ascend the spike. Then, the train is launched again, but this time backwards, through the entire course back to the station. Lastly, the colors of the keychain are the same as the needle on a compass, hinting toward the polaris theme concept.
Just a thought.
thats what I thought too... CP... for Cedar Point. And a key chain??? plus a new "formula" for thrills... I think its all but confirmed its going to be a formula one theme.
I would say this would kill capacity but if it has a dueling layout then this is a brilliant idea
@@coasterfreakjr. it would be slower than Mr. Freeze, due to the length, and the loading is hindered by slow thinking GP.
There will be no second top hat. The new footers do not line up with the current footers. Only a spike is evidential
agreed... looks like a bigger version of the spike supports on something like pantheon... just a lot more spread out obviously for supporting something much taller.
@@Frankenberrythe spikes supports on pantheon look almost identical but smaller to the new supports behind dragster so i agree but could this mean it’s also intamin involved?
@@nicholasbonfiglio820 I certainly hope so... The idea of Zamperla working on Top thrill dragster for anything other than new trains makes my stomach bubble lol.
@@Frankenberry fully agree and this could even kickstart cedar fair working with intamin again
@@nicholasbonfiglio820 I heard on one of the enthusiast channels (can't remember which) a while back that Cedar Fair suits were down at Universal IOA checking out Velocicoaster a few months ago. In my opinion, they were checking out their work to see if the hype was real. I'm almost willing to bet the farm that Intamin is at least involved.
The coaster community is all over the place regarding what is happening to Top Thrill😅🤣😂😅🤣😂😅🤣😂
Will always be hahahha
One thing about it... Cedar Fair knows how to whip up a frenzy in the thusie community lol
@@Frankenberry So true 😂
I feel like Dragster is going to be longer than what people are saying not just a spiral and back or a double top hat and back I think we could see something to Velociacoaster at Universal, because I heard rumors that CP was at IOA and the fact that they removed Frobbiden Frontier. Makes me feel like this coaster will be longer than what people think idk that’s my opinion though.. Tony Clark once said that that there will be coaster even better than steel Vengeance and I think this is that project.
I really hope you are right because this would be hands down better than Stell Vengeance
@@coasterfreakjr. I hope so to, I don’t want to set my expectations too high, but it would definitely be better than Steve.
Lol you're going to be so disappointed.
Better than Steel Vengeance? Come on SON! You buggin'! lol
@@BrendenChase77 Well this is if the layout extends and that’s a big if…
idk why people think that lsm's cant aaccerate ftaser? ive riden red force at portaventura in spain and that kicks ass, yes it dosnt accelerate as fast at the start. but the acceleration is constant the entire launch. all they need to do is make the train enter on the switch track halfway down the launch track, launch backwards maybe 60-80 mph up the spike, and then reach the 120+ needed on the way forwards. it should be easy
The keychain is a C and P no matter which way you turn it
I have just subbed. Whatever it is will be the top coaster in the world.
I hope so, and thank you for the sub!
The logo looks like it said “C P” which could stand for Cedar Point
I'm going to keep posting my theory (especially in case it comes true). I think it's going to be a dueling launch with two vertical spikes (or 2 tracks up 1 spike, hopefully 500ft+), and a criss-cross over the existing top hat. This would greatly improve capacity, while giving each launch 'side' a slightly different experience, thereby encouraging MORE ridership (to do both).
This would be legendary! A dueling coaster with those kinds of heights and speeds
Yeah, and the carnage would be spectacular when it failed...and it would absolutely fail. It's Cedar Point, after all...
My question is do the new footers triangle shape face the same direction of the existing top hat? Looks like it in the pictures. Current footer V points away from the station. New footer V points towards the station?
It also looks like the replay/repeat button 🔁 what if it'll have that figure 8 loop intamin posted some months ago? Capacity will be no problem with this new switch track trend
New theory. The new top hat is the first hat you go over. The train starts where the original brake run ends. They utilize Intamin's vertical launch where they send you 500' up. On your way down, you follow the original launch track and go over the original top hat. Here, you break a speed record.
Thanks for the mentions, nice video!
Thank you! I'm pleased to hear that you enjoyed the video. ❤
something i also just noticed, the section in the middle of the pin is designed to look broken, maybe implying records will be broken?
Ive been saying space theme. “Top thrill Spaceter”. Its been my comments for months now. Glad i found this channel today. Seems like the only person speaking truth, and using logic.
Aha, thank you very much
I think the logo looks like 2 letter P’s for Polaris back to back and flipped so you can read the P from each direction. This would also reference the “poles” on opposite ends as Polaris is the star almost directly above the North Pole.
The keychain just looks like a CP for Cedar Point... 2 top hats doesn't make any sense...
The Dual top hats depicted in the simulation make more sense and looks well organized. Id be impressed if it becomes reality. I Look at what i had imagined for the mean Streak, to take the DNA from a coaster like the Gemini and create a wooden/steel hybrid hypercoaster 🙂🙂
Woah great, I am glad you liked the concept
The keychain looks like an oval superspeedway to me, like the Indy 500
Indy 500 isn't oval.
Hate to shatter everybody's space themed fantasy, but if you actually look up generic clipart for a race track, the proportions are identical to the logo. The graphic designer more than obviously referenced that when making the logo.
I agree
I think its almost unquestionable now that its a Formula one theme... I mean, "A new FORMULA for thrills"... Then they give out Key chains for the first riders event??? That bout seals the deal to me. I'll be VERY surprised if it's anything other than that.
@@Frankenberry plus they kept the station so i dont think its a space theme.
I don’t really care what they do, just do it already! I want to ride it. I never got to ride TTD! I’m ready to ride!! No matter what they do, I bet it will be bad ass!😊
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Assuming your younger, I was in my late teens when dragster opened before the era of fast passes.I never rode ttd either due to not wanting to wait 3 hours.Thats what the cue times were,ii remember there being a 4.5 hr wait the year it opened. I'm excited the new dragster will open and take the line down for maverick..People are overthinking this whole thing..New trains,paint,theme and a spike will be what happens
Im with you on that lol... I just want to ride the damn thing lol... and PRAY it's at least AS good as it was. It's been my number one for many, many, years... I miss it horribly lol.
Reverse launch up the spiral side of the top hat.
The height and drop will be record because they will extend downwards 40 ft. (460 height) (420 drop.)
Then you speed to a beyond vertical spiral. Picture wicked twister but more than 90 degrees. Maybe 115 degrees or so. Might be around 310 ft tall.
Heavy themed. Nebula fire is the name. Second half is painted blue
I have been saying 2nd hophat for about a month or so now....just didnt look like the footers for a spike...lets see if it pans out.
Two things. 1) I do think that the keychain will be for a first riders event.... However, I don't think it's the logo for the ride.... I think its a stylized CP for "Cedar Point". 2) Think about this.... The first teaser says a "New Formula for thrills"... THEN, they give you a Key Chain for a first rider event???? Those two things put together tells me one thing.... It's going to be a "Formula one" theme. :) Just my opinion
It might just be that way 🤔
Until i see a vertical spike being built, i will keep an open mind on any possibilities.
Also looks like the turnaround in the station and the tophat
Yes I was thinking the same thing
Magnets also represent a new magnetic launch. Possibly having the world's "fastest magnetic launch". Just a speculation
Tony Clark never, ever, said the keyring would be needed for "a ride". He made other comments, but never, ever, said it would be needed for "a ride". It's a "C" and it's a "P".
Yeah, he said you wouldn't want to lose it 🤷♂
@@coasterfreakjr. But you say right in your video the keyring will be needed "for a ride". That is NOT true. 1:05 or so. That's my point. Tony Clark NEVER said it.
@@DaveDzRochNY Ahh I see, definitely my mistake 1:05
Come on IT is a C P meaning Cedar Point doesn't look like anything else
No second tophat,, the footer triangle is pointed the wrong way for that. The spike will ride up the closest support.
CP , my first thought was Cedar Point. But also possibly the intials of the new ride. Circuit Pulse. Although maybe it's GP, Grand Prix.
So many possibilities
6:04 The lines would be just as long as opening day for TTD then.
Yeah, except the lines would always be that long
I don’t see it happening. They would need to modify or remove Iron Dragon before there would be room as well as a complete second set of footers.
They’re not going to remove a coaster to make a second top hat. There’s not enough room dimensionally without that also happening. Picture the *width* not just the height.
Ai bro
I see the second top hat being either shorter mayber 300 feet becuase you still have to stop the train without making it too forceful or i feel like instead of a second top hat it could be a massive over bank turn the only problem is the footers dont really match but just a theory
DP..... DUDE PERFECT . trick shots from worlds talles roller coaster
😂😂
Wonder if Corkscrew and Power Tower might get the axe? Don’t know if you could use Power Tower’s structure for any of the new TTD/Spiky
And maybe they should use the carriages for power tower as new trains for dragster. Makes as much sense as your original idea 😐
I hope they remove the Corkscrew that ride is way to rough !
The rides would’ve been removed by now.
OML DUDE DOUBLE TOPHAT 😱I WANT A SPIKE AND ANOTHER TOPHAT I CANT CHOOOOOSE
There's no way they're fitting a taller top hat where the new footers are and I don't see them adding anymore footers. I still like the swing launch with a spike theory
The keychain looks like the original layout in the ride manual that they give ride host when you work there, but the parts that go outward , are in my opinion hinting that there is going to be an extended layout since they key chain design is not a complete circuit . I also thought that it could also mean there are 2 switch tracks included. However the keychain at the moment looks like what dragster is at its current status. So Im pretty sure they are added to the layout.
The extended layout sounds good, I'm just wondering if it's a tophat or spike 🤔
@@coasterfreakjr. I think we are getting a spike for sure but not sure about a second top hat
Those phat beats make it fun to listen to your videos. It's a unique hook that I don't hear on other coaster videos 👍
Thank you, I'm glad you are enjoying the videos 😊
Think about it. Another top hat or a spike, they’ll have a 400 ft coaster and a 500 ft all in one so they can still make the 400 ft claim and then the first 500 ft claim.
it looks like a C and a P. as in Cedar Point . and it's the classic color of a magnet
If it's F1 theme, Top Speed Barrier
I'm sure they will break either a height or speed record. Not sure if it will be a world wide record or a US record, but they will do something to that effect I suspect.
I agree! I think it will be one of those more unique records that will be awhile until another park breaks it. I don't think it will be the record we're all thinking about tho
The logo is two magnets together... Which probably is a reference to the new launch system. Also Polaris could reference the magnetic launch.
Interesting that would make sense
double top-hat sounds awsome!
Trueeee
It’s cp but it’s the new color scheme for ttd that being said, it’s definitely going to be named Polaris as well.. but this particular keychain just reads CP but the supports will be grey and track red.
I think the keychain is Oxen Sniff.
Would be funny if they made a second top hat just tall enough to take back the height record
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I think most are over thinking this whole Dragster thing !
Omg yes most are in lala land!!
@@ChrisD72meaning what? Like they are talking about it too much? I agree it's definitely talked about way too much but we're all excited about it. Remember when people said dragster was getting tore down? and everyone said we were in "la-la land" and dreaming, or knew nothing about coasters if we thought they were going to do anything to re-make TTD😂 Now we're watching footers being poured for an expansion of some sort so obviously people aren't crazy something very exciting and major is being done. You can never count Cedar Point out! They are always going to come up with something to amaze us!
@@huddyr1112 Perfectly said 👏
The keychain looks like a magnet while showing “CP”. I think that just means they’re hinting at using LSMs!
Poissibly
I just think the pre top hat section is changing
spike, lsm launch, possible speed hill during launch
Corkscrew needs to go!
It's outdated and has the most uncomfortable bucket seats!!!
The truth has been spoken 💯💯
Hope the supports are sturdier than those on Fury 325
What the heck does magnets have to do with a space theme??? The magnets might simply be a hint at the new propulsion system.
Not so much space, but northern orientation.
The first thing I thought was it looked like two top hats but not sure how realistic it is
Keychain looks like the layout of dragster with the old and new paint scheme
The foundations for Kingda Ka were the sizes if you buried nine school buses together 3x3x3
well the thing i would like to see is a 2 track top thrill dragster with 2 stations so u race against eachother on 2 tracks on the same top hat only made stronger to support 2 trains . so u have side by side race . then u have the first ever dueling strata coaster , with worlds first vertical twist high 5 . and i think the keychain could mean a switch so they could to my believe get rid of the old tophat and reconstruct it at the other side . and make a switch in the stations so it can ride more people but also both cars could be launched from both stations . so to say like its actually looking like 2 coaster except its only one coaster built to look like 2
That's not a bad idea, except the cost
I've been seeing this idea a lot in the comment section and I really like it
Actually I do believe Intamin has stated their LSM can go up to 150 miles. Which is newer technology then current LSM technology.
I agree with this idea and looking forward to it
Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it! 😊
Space theme, vertical launch, tallest and fastest again. Remember 2019 when Cedar Fair trademarked Orion and Polaris? Here it comes! OP CP
Please no second tophat I don't want those giant pillars by the train station destroying the classic view
Have to top hats but each one's independent of each other or separate
That would look awesome and it would greatly increase capacity
8:47 If that will be true of the 500 ft. T-Rex, it will be too late. Six Flags in Saudi Arabia is going to get to 500 feet before CP does.
Possibly
i like the idea of a dbl to hophat, that way is a full circuit so they can claim the hieghth record, i think they could do 500ft just to get teh record of Terracoaster and with no technicalaties as it would b a complete circuit
Dont think 2 top hats, but I agree with the logo.. There is U with a tail 2 times.. So launch on opposite side, up and over top hat, up a huge spike and then reverse. so you will do the top hat twice, and not sure going back will be backward.. what if the trains can turn 180 degrees on the spike so you are forward at the highest speeds both directions. I am not oppose to going 120+ mph backwards though. A big Mr Freeze. If tower is really tall we can see a huge speed increase as well because they could slow you down before hitting second top hat.
Double top hat
Double top hat
Single bottom shoe
@@macaronandcheese18113 Underrated
Cp key chain . Cedar Point? They only have to one up what ever they have now . So it could be a multitude of things. I think the footings are a bit of a giveaway.
If we're taking the keychain logo as them saying there are 2 tophats then I have to say it also looks like there are 2 vertical spikes!😵
no wayi doubt they can run 2 let alone 3 trains if it had just one verticle spike
@@nicholasbonfiglio820 I doubt it too, but taking that keychain as a map and putting all the recent activity and speculation and what is possible with switch tracks...
And my official dream world prediction is two top hats and 2 spikes. One twisted spike and the other beyond vertical.
The new top hat is 500' and the old one gets flipped into the world's tallest inversion!
@@carysage You guys have some excellent ideas I really hope one of them pans out to be true
Huge CP fan...go there all the time, but this "re-imagining" of Top Thrill really does nothing for me. I think they were stuck though...the plot of land is just skinny and long, so their options are lucky. a long wait for a super short ride is just not buy thing.
There is no space theme. WTH are you talking about?
Just going over the possibilities, you also gotta remember this video is outdated by the time you watched it
0% chance thru build a second top hat
bet i’ll come back when they do
@@nicholasbonfiglio820 I'll be waiting
Hear me out what if there's 2 launches 2 trains 2 top hats at the same time? one goes one way the other goes the other way. faster lines more overall rides on the day. that would be insane
Love it 👏
Two top hats!!!!!
A spike is very possible, but a 2nd top hat? There's no chance of this happening. No offense.
None taken 😊
I miss disaster transport.
Yeah...
Kennywood just dis the alien space theme
Only one thing matters and that is all I care about how fast??
You have your priorities strait and I'm right with you
I really don’t care what they do with dragster as long as they hit 500 ft. I have never ridden a strata but Kingda Ka is fairly near me so I’d much rather ride a 500 foot dragster than another strata coaster.
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A new formula referring to the new fastest. Formula Rossa is the current fastest. Polaris polarity magnets.
O M G (Grandpa Joestar voice)
Cedar Point wouldn't be the first to break the 500 foot barrier with a T-Rex if they waited til then. There's that Six Flags 525 foot coaster that is opening next year. I would think they would want to continue the trend of being the first to break each new 100 foot mark. This gives them the best opportunity to be able to do that, just ahead of Six Flags coaster opening later the same year. 555 sounds like the pefect number to me and makes for good marketing too.🤷♂️ It would also cement them into having tbe tallest roller coaster in the world for probably a long time (unless the polar coaster ever actually happened, but even then, the drops on that are small and thats not exactly the same thing).
I don't understand why there would be 2 tophats, basically 2 experiences pretty much the same, cuz how different could U make 2 tophats......it just sounds redundant 2 me just saying dude
I think you are smoking crack if you really believe they are adding a second tophat. An extension to 500ft if anything is most likely as wild it will get. Otherwise just likely a new theme and alterations to the launch.
It’s a new Cedar Point logo. A stylized C and P, nothing more.
Maybe, maybe not
No second top hat.
The Keychain has a C and P hence Cedar Point...
Or maybe the CP stands for Cedar Point?
Yeah but not the ride itself
Magnets.. the launch system. 😮
It’s “CP”
That background music is a big no 😬
Wanted to watch but left after 3 mins 😭