Logitech G915 TKL vs Redragon Horus TKL K621 - Premium vs affordable

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  • This is a comparison of the ‪@LogitechG‬ G915 TKL and the ‪@redragonkeyboard‬ Horus TKL (K621). In this video I'm talking about the difference between the two keyboards - the most obviously being the price as the Redragon keyboard is ridiculously cheap for the features that it offers, while the G915 TKL is a premium keyboard that is my main keyboard on a regular basis for a number of different reasons.
    Related watching:
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    White Logitech G915 TKL with GL Tactile keys unboxing and overview • White Logitech G915 TK...
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    Please note links listed here include affiliate links which may earn me a commission. Find out more below.*
    Redragon Horus TKL features:
    3-Mode Connection: USB, Bluetooth and 2.4GHz
    80% TKL Low-Profile design with red switches
    Dedicate macro keys that you can record on-the-fly at hardware level
    Multiple on-board memory profiles
    Dedicate media playback buttons
    20 onboard lighting profiles and the ability to adjust brightness or just switch to white
    Hot swappable switch design which lets you change switches easily:
    Red switches - Linear operation, 40g operating force, 2mm actitation point, 4mm total travel, 50 million clicks.
    The Redragon Horus TKL is surprisingly good for a number of reasons:
    It's really affordable
    It's comfortable to type on and has loads of features including easy on board controls, software for key remapping, etc
    It sounds great to type on and is a pleasure to use
    Lowlights though:
    2.4GHz connection seems flakey and signal loss is a problem (BUT I have a lot of wireless devices in my room)
    Please note links listed here include affiliate links which may earn me a commission. Find out more below.*
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    Official site - www.redragonzone.com/products...
    Redragon shop - redragonshop.com/products/k62... (see here for other key options)
    Redragon Horus TKL specs:
    Bluetooth/2.4Ghz/Wired Tri-Mode Ultra-Thin Low Profile TKL Gaming Keyboard
    Low Profile Linear & Quiet Red Switches
    30% Cutted Ultra-Thin with Dedicated Media Control
    Professional Software
    RGB Backlit
    Design
    Keyboard Size
    14.0*5.8 in
    Item Weight
    0.60 kg
    Switches
    Low Profile Red Switches
    Keyboard Connectivity
    Wired/BT/2.4Ghz Wireless
    Matrix
    87 Keys (Full Rollover)
    Extra G Keys 4
    Battery
    1900 mAh lithium
    Package Included
    1 x Redragon K621 TKL gaming keyboard
    1 x Detachable Type-C Cable
    1 x User Manual
    Logitech G915 TKL:
    Logitech G915 TKL:
    The G915 TKL is a tenkeyless, wireless gaming keyboard from Logitech. This is a low profile keyboard that has both a low-slung frame and thinner keyswitches and keycaps than most. Logitech says these keyswitches are 25% faster than other, standard keys and result in a better experience (it is great).
    Features of the Logitech G915 TKL include:
    - 40 hours on a single full charge (with RGB on)
    - 1,124 hours without RGB (135 days)
    - Lightspeed wireless 1ms report rate or Bluetooth connectivity
    - Multimedia keys and volume wheel
    - Low Profile mechanical switches (half the height of traditional switches)
    - Choice of GL Clicky, GL Linear and GL Tactile switches
    - Lightsync RGB lighting
    - Logitech G-Hub compatible
    - Brushed aluminium alloy top case
    - Lightspeed dongle storage spot and extender adapter
    - Beautifully crafted aircraft-grade aluminum alloy frame
    - Programmable macro keys (in function keys)
    - Up to 3 onboard memory profiles
    Other specs of the Logitech G915 TKL:
    - 6ft/1.8m micro USB charging cable
    - Onboard Memory: 2 Lighting Profiles and 3 Macro Profiles
    - LIGHTSYNC RGB, per key lighting
    GL Tactile:
    Feedback Type Discernible Bump
    Actuation Distance 1.5 mm
    Total Travel 2.7 mm
    Average Force 50 gf
    Tactile Force 60 gf
    GL Clicky
    Feedback Type Audible Click
    Actuation Distance 1.5 mm
    Total Travel 2.7 mm
    Average Force 50 gf
    Tactile Force 60 gf
    See the white G915 TKL here:
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  • @sordmasta6646
    @sordmasta6646 Рік тому +9

    Was torn between the two.
    Hearing about the wireless connectivity issues was more than enough for me to make up my mind.
    Thanks!

  • @Oplopp
    @Oplopp Рік тому

    Thx for the video!!🔥

  • @hamfrey93
    @hamfrey93 10 місяців тому

    Hey, very nice review! Got a question. I have two computers on my setup, do you think If I plugged in the 2.4 wireless USB on the first device and the USB cable to the second device I could use the keyboard for both computers just by switching with FN 4 and 5?

  • @LDillon
    @LDillon 4 місяці тому

    What about the software experience? Do they have the same RGB/macro customisability? On-board memory vs. needing to run bloatware like Razer does with Synapse, etc?

  • @belugaking304
    @belugaking304 2 роки тому +3

    You should take a look at some of cooler masters low profile keyboards! The SK620 was my first mechanical keyboard and holds a special place in my heart

  • @nickglover
    @nickglover 2 роки тому +7

    That LED flicker is kind of an interesting note for anyone who streams. It's like getting an accent light that flickers on video whereas Logitech seems to have made the effort to design their RGB circuit properly to not flicker on camera. Note a huge deal, especially if you don't stream, but still interesting.

    • @TheProvokedPrawn
      @TheProvokedPrawn  2 роки тому

      Interesting thought, though I don't know how likely it is that you'd see that on camera (depending on the angle and use case of course).

    • @VilkanVisions
      @VilkanVisions 8 місяців тому

      Lights and cameras has different standars in different parts of the world, for example in Europe we have PAL and US have NTSC, so when using lights produced in different standard it will flicker. To avoid that you have to set your camera properly to match the light.

  • @manuelmogilner5262
    @manuelmogilner5262 Рік тому +2

    the 2.4 ghz works almost perfectly with a dongle on the table just in front of the keyboard (btw this is a good practice for every wireless peripherals)

    • @cordeiro.gabriel
      @cordeiro.gabriel Рік тому

      Are you referring to the Redragon one?

    • @manuelmogilner5262
      @manuelmogilner5262 Рік тому

      @@cordeiro.gabriel sisi, comprate un hub usb, conectalo y ponlo exactamente en frente de tu teclado y conecta el dongle del teclado. Nunca más vas a tener problemas, tanto con el red dragon como con cualquier dispositivo wireless

    • @Proaz15
      @Proaz15 Рік тому

      @@manuelmogilner5262 que tal el teclado? Cuánto te costó?

    • @manuelmogilner5262
      @manuelmogilner5262 Рік тому +1

      @@Proaz15 la verdad es que lo compré hace unos cuantos meses y siendo de argentino te puedo decir que el precio al dio de hoy cambió mucho. Pero en comparación con el logitech es MUCHO más barato. La mitad o menos.
      El teclado está muy bien, es lo que esperaba y más. La construcción se siente lo suficientemente robusta, la placa de metal de atrás le da un peso bastante bueno. Si bien en un principio me costó acostumbrarme a su extrema sensibilidad al tipear, por el bajo perfil de las keycaps y de los switches (que para colmo los elegi red), ahora tipeo CASI con la misma cantidad de errores que con uno normal pero bastante más rápido. El wireless funciona bien siempre que le hagas caso a la recomendación que dejé más arriba, no lo probé con el dongle conectado al gabinete, supongo que la experiencia será mala como con la mayoría de los dongles bluetooth. La batería es prácticamente eterna, lo cargás una vez y te dura 10 días mínimo si lo dejas con la configuración de fábrica para que se auto-apague cuando no se tipee por más de un minuto.
      Alguna de las fallas más importantes que tiene son:
      - El teclado no reconoce las teclas que no imprimen caracteres al dejarlas apretadas mucho tiempo. Ejemplo: al dejar apretado shift, o control supongamos que por más de un minuto, al tener el teclado una tiempo de apagado de un minuto cuando se pone ocioso, el teclado se apaga aunque estemos manteniendo apretada la tecla, y para que se prenda tenés que apretar otra tecla o soltarla y volver a apretar. Una solución es cambiar ese tiempo de apagado a 2 o 3 min o lo que necesites para que no te pase eso.
      - Otro de los problemas que tiene es que 1 o 2 veces de cada 10, cuando el teclado está en modo "suspendido" por no usarse y se lo vuelve a usar, puede llegar a tardar en imprimir en pantalla la primera letra que escribamos o a veces no reconocerla y empezar a reconocer desde la segunda tecla que oprimamos. Esto me sucede aun teniendo el dongle a 10 cm de distancia, por lo que es una falla del teclado en si. No es grave porque no sucede tan seguido, pero pasa. De nuevo, la solución para reducir aun más esto es cambiar el tiempo de apagado o suspensión del teclado, lo que hará que gaste un poco más de batería.

  • @clemzarbazard1200
    @clemzarbazard1200 2 роки тому +17

    LEDs from the keyboards are powered by an Alternate Current (AC-power) which means it goes on and off, but so quickly the human eye cannot perceive it. However, depending on the settings, your camera could ! You need to adjust the shutterspeed; which is the amount of time that each individual frame will be exposed for (for exemple 1/30 of a second, 1/125s etc...)
    If you are filming at high shutterspeed rate and the LEDs are flashing at a lower rate, then your camera will record frames in which the LEDs were off, resulting in this flickers. Sometimes you need to go very low and adjust other settings to get it right

    • @TheProvokedPrawn
      @TheProvokedPrawn  2 роки тому

      Yeah I played around with the settings alot but without success 😭

    • @ProgThoughts
      @ProgThoughts Рік тому +7

      They definitely are not operating on AC power. It's DC power, but the LED lights up a certain number of times per second. This is measured in hz. The camera captures a single moment, and the LED may or may not be on at that moment, capturing flickering. Our eyes have continuous capture, so we don't notice.

    • @clemzarbazard1200
      @clemzarbazard1200 Рік тому +1

      @@ProgThoughts thanks for clearing this up :)

  • @2SaltyRecipes
    @2SaltyRecipes 5 місяців тому

    Could you replace the switches on the reddragon one with Outemu switches online?

  • @nenume00
    @nenume00 3 місяці тому

    6:37 once you activate a macro key (F1 -F4) it can be turned off only by resetting the whole keyboard. If not, at least 1 macro will always stay lit with max white color. The same goes if you have all 4 activated. Their light do not dim or change, they just stay full blast on white
    The same goes for the G1-g4 keys, but they are completely green.
    So if you want to use the macros, they will be constantly white / green
    Also i bricked the firmware by trying to update it via the redragon support page.
    Other than that, i guess it workz

  • @theutgardianchannel1952
    @theutgardianchannel1952 2 роки тому +1

    Hot swappable cherry instead of property switches is way better, makes me prefer the redragon

  • @dtan27
    @dtan27 2 роки тому +4

    I've got a Horus myself and while I like it there's a few issues I have with it: Sometimes a button will get stuck so you get stuff like thissssssssssssssssssssssss. The RF also seems a bit weak, I basically need to have the dongle within a few feet of the keyboard to keep a reliable connection going. I like the feel of the keyboard though, with the exception of the weird rubber media keys.

    • @TheProvokedPrawn
      @TheProvokedPrawn  2 роки тому

      Yeah wireless isn't great sadly.

    • @arulwastaken
      @arulwastaken Рік тому

      is it good for typing ?

    • @k__sante
      @k__sante 8 місяців тому

      That's just too much issues

    • @rambot_14o43
      @rambot_14o43 6 місяців тому

      I have not faced this issue personally

  • @amandabielecki2290
    @amandabielecki2290 2 роки тому +8

    Anyone think the reddragon sounds better lol?

  • @markdavid9128
    @markdavid9128 2 роки тому +9

    def getting these red dragons with that usb c rather than nasty micro usb, the swappable switches is good for longevity too

    • @Messiahs
      @Messiahs 2 роки тому +3

      Honestly why does the USB connection matter on a keyboard?

    • @umar2244
      @umar2244 2 роки тому +3

      I've had the Horus for a few months now. Decent keyboard overall but good luck actually finding keys to swap in. All the low profile keys I've found don't have the same pin orientation as redragons PCB.
      Another think is, some sections of the keyboard are more hollow than the rest, making the keyboard sound inconsistent across multiple key. My Y key and the keys surrounding it sound more pingy. It's easily fixed with some dampening foam.
      Just something to keep in mind before you buy.

  • @Honir4
    @Honir4 27 днів тому

    what happens if you put a normal keycap on a low profile keyboard?

  • @kushal0402
    @kushal0402 7 місяців тому

    any1 know if there is a difference in the delay ?

  • @knessing7681
    @knessing7681 10 місяців тому

    logitech has more of a clicky sound and (to my ears loud when compared to the) redragon's thockey sound, in the sound test of the video. I prefer the the Logitech K740 which is almost near silent, but get squeaky with some keys over the year of usage (I had my for over 9 years and still using it, and havent found a decent/comparable replacement keyboard).

  • @christofferredfielfd1758
    @christofferredfielfd1758 2 роки тому +1

    There are low profile cherry Mx silver/speed switches in the k65 low profile (I think it's called) apparently more of them were made with a cheaper low profile switch also by cherry called the viola, I have the speed variety though. I can't say for sure but by looking at them , if the pin out lines up, they would make a perfect alternative. That being said, pain in the ass to repair/replace though they are the stock switches do sound nicer.

  • @Makarov61
    @Makarov61 Рік тому

    “Hey can i copy your homework”
    “Sure but change it a little so the teacher won’t notice”
    💀💀

  • @SavageScientist
    @SavageScientist Рік тому +4

    i own the 915 and hate that the alt keys do not light up symbols like +!@ are a pain when im programming. So this may be a great alt i would have bought the red dragon just for the keycaps if they were compatible with the 915

    • @Katanski
      @Katanski Рік тому

      I know exactly what you mean 😂

  • @kaosvalentine
    @kaosvalentine 7 місяців тому +2

    In south africa the logitech Is curently 4x the price at R5200 vs the Redragons R1300. I dotn know if the Logitech is worth x4 the rpice tbh

  • @mathewtylerjordan5044
    @mathewtylerjordan5044 2 роки тому +1

    FYI Change shutter speed to film LEDs that flicker.

  • @Bohn101
    @Bohn101 Рік тому +2

    Your accent is pretty sweet. I can't believe I actually found a review between this RedDragon K6222RGB vs Logitech G915 TKL. The absolute worst part of the Logitech, is the non-lit secondary characters. I can't believe how much I hate that. And how in my opinion that's freaking stupid. Why even bother putting any indicators on those keys? They should just make us memorize all keys. I would love it if RTINGS did a review of that red dragon, what I'm really after is a keyboard at ultra low wireless latency.

  • @FehandPudd
    @FehandPudd 2 роки тому +2

    to me the Logitech as more of that rattling plastic sound when typed on and the redragon is producing some metalic resonance. I currently have the 60% version of that keyboard in a way the anivia and it got no resonance and as that thick sound unlike the Logitech that is using something very different then the cherry style switches

    • @nickglover
      @nickglover 2 роки тому +1

      The rattling comes from the way they attach the keycaps. They just kinda loosely clip in place, so the keycaps aren't snug to the switch stem, whereas the Redragon uses a friction fit so there is no rattle. You can put a piece of thick paper (like an index card) between the keycap and the switch stem on the Logitech to get rid of the rattle, but there will still be plenty of wobble, unfortunately.

    • @beefmaster7229
      @beefmaster7229 10 місяців тому

      Can you give me yout feedback on the anivia? I am willing to buy one

  • @VynZography
    @VynZography 7 місяців тому +1

    So wait, the Redragon is cheaper, has USB-c, illuminated secondary characters, hot swappable switches, etc! Amazing! Shame the wireless sucks.

  • @DarkFruitTT
    @DarkFruitTT 2 роки тому +26

    Logitech needs to move away from micro usb

    • @oerthling
      @oerthling Рік тому

      Yup. Micro-USB was already pathetic in 2020. By now it's a major embarrassment.

    • @NFSNOS
      @NFSNOS Рік тому

      Im sorry but most of the things Logitech make is crap in pretty package (

    • @SrChalice
      @SrChalice 7 місяців тому +1

      I'm a Logitech user and I'm getting sick and tired of them. Their products are 2.5x they're competitors and I don't think it's justified. They are like the Nvidia in the peripheral space. I'm looking to buy a mechanical keyboard with lights for the dark (optional). But most important wireless. If their is a beast wired keys, I'll go for that as well. I'm just tired of overrated logic.

    • @Roman9441
      @Roman9441 5 місяців тому

      @@SrChalice The software is the worst now ~ ~ , I don't like those chinese software that one software for one devices, But hey it work as purpose and setting up any button / macro is easy
      While Logitech mehhhhhh is so mesh up the software and hard to find where it was when you want to do something, Use to be fan of logitech product but I guess I'm give up

  • @realduox
    @realduox 2 роки тому +5

    logitechs wireless markup is absolutely insane for a keyboard. I love the design though so if t hey made a wired version of the TKL I might dump my Fnatic Streak 65.

    • @TasX
      @TasX Рік тому +4

      815 tkl?

  • @3pidemiC123
    @3pidemiC123 Рік тому +2

    The flashing is likely due to how Red Dragon does lighting brightness settings. Basically, with cheap LEDs, the way to adjust brightness is to just alternate on and off states really fast. For brighter, it will be on slightly longer than it is off, and for dimmer, it is off more than it is on. You might be able to get rid of the LED flashing in your camera by maxing out the brightness, which generally just keeps them on 100% of the time.
    This also happens pretty regularly with cheaper backlit monitors.

    • @zantesh
      @zantesh Рік тому +4

      All leds flash on and off really fast.

    • @typingcat
      @typingcat 7 місяців тому

      Does this affect our eyes? Not aesthetically, but something like tiring the eyes.

  • @saltsnow7776
    @saltsnow7776 2 роки тому +4

    the red dragon sounds better the logitech board is so fucking rattily probably because of those fucking stabilizers. insane that they have made a hotswap version of a logitech keyboard for less than half the price. almost a forth.

  • @Itojunya7904
    @Itojunya7904 11 місяців тому +2

    The RedDragon sound better to me compare to Shit Logitexpensive.

  • @typingcat
    @typingcat 7 місяців тому

    White keycap sucks for backlighting. How come Apple seems the only company that understands it?

  • @srinivasmerugu2918
    @srinivasmerugu2918 Рік тому

    Is it possible to disable RGB on Reddragon?

  • @albertera
    @albertera Рік тому

    logitech premium but bad keyboard with bad key rattling sound. She's just beautiful and that's it, he has no other virtues. The sound of the keys is just terrible.

  • @Aws7aleeq
    @Aws7aleeq 6 місяців тому

    I thing the logo just sounds like these 10jd membrane keyboards that sounds loud as sh!t and doesn’t have stabs, the redragon sounds like a real mechanical keyboard, and it’s hotswappable, and it’s 52jod, not 200jod for non hotswappable switches and that sounds like sh!t.

  • @kyle7521
    @kyle7521 2 роки тому

    Hello 👋

  • @lilayumiii
    @lilayumiii Рік тому

    why does it need to be silver q_q

    • @TheProvokedPrawn
      @TheProvokedPrawn  Рік тому +1

      What would you prefer?

    • @lilayumiii
      @lilayumiii Рік тому

      @@TheProvokedPrawn just white and not have a silver "background" idk how to call that but in my opinion that grey or silver just doesn't fit and doesn't look good but I can't choose it :/

    • @Harsh-ep6ls
      @Harsh-ep6ls 10 місяців тому

      @@lilayumiii it's also available in black.

    • @lilayumiii
      @lilayumiii 10 місяців тому

      ​@@Harsh-ep6lsbut I want white not silver nor black 😭
      crybaby I know
      anyways- have a great day

  • @fmpmuld1
    @fmpmuld1 Рік тому

    Hello Prawn ! This G915 keyboard has a major problem! Only half of the keys are illuminated. This is totally stupid !!! A G513 has the whole keys illuminated. Why not an 815 or a 915?
    When it is dark, you will have to look for the semicolon, dot, and all the special characters. Let's not even talk about European keyboards which are reversed (numbers at bottom => not illuminated at all !). It's even worse, you'll have to look for the numbers!
    Really, it sucks and I don't understand why nobody point at this. Same for 815, 915 and all gaming keyboards from Logitech.

  • @JonathanGorr
    @JonathanGorr 7 місяців тому +1

    TLDR Its a nice chinese knockoff.

  • @danvaltierra1687
    @danvaltierra1687 2 роки тому +1

    Oh man. Im Pro competitive price point and diversity. But that RedDragron is absolutely shameless.

    • @TheProvokedPrawn
      @TheProvokedPrawn  2 роки тому +1

      It is very cheeky but at least it has extra features that the G915 doesn't

    • @Mirsab
      @Mirsab 2 роки тому +4

      Shameless?

    • @icedstev0433
      @icedstev0433 2 роки тому

      Qj

    • @davesmith7658
      @davesmith7658 7 місяців тому

      More like Logitech is shameless.