Of course it's a business! She doesn't have to raise, support them. If a woman can't have a child, oh well. There's a lot of things I want and can't have, I'm not begging strangers for them. If I was one of those babies grown, the "womb woman" would never see me again.
I have been researching this recently. I had my tubes tied during an extremely abusive relationship. Now I'm in a healthy relationship with a man that has never had his own children. I'm 43 and would be extremely concerned that my own eggs would pose health risks for a baby. I would like to use donor eggs and found some interesting information about fetal microchimerism. During pregnancy dna is passed back and forth through the placenta... the pregnancy would literally cause you to be genetically bonded to the baby you carry despite it not being your egg. It is almost as if this method of conception was preordained. Sadly, ill never be able to afford to do this , but I think it is a beautiful medical. miracle
A great video that shows how children conceived through egg donation could resemble their parent(s). Selecting eggs from donors with particular physical attributes will certainly give you some control over the physical characteristics of the child. But this doesn’t mean it won’t look like its parents. As mentioned in the video, there are a number of ways the mother can influence the baby’s development during pregnancy and throughout life. The embryonic fluid where the baby lives in for nine months contains micro RNAs (Ribonucleic acid) molecules that serve as a communication link between the mother and the baby. These could impact both the baby’s physical appearance and personality genes. Another factor affecting the child’s development is its upbringing. Your parenting style will help shape the person your child will eventually become. What’s also very interesting is that children tend to adopt the vocal and facial expressions of their parents. No matter how your baby was conceived, parents will play a major role in who their children will eventually become. So explore all options out there, because sometimes donated embryos could be the only way you can experience the miracle of pregnancy and birth.
I'm also looking into donor eggs. At first, I wasn't sure about this option at all! I thought maybe I should continue trying with my own eggs. I'm 44 and last year I had 2 failed cycles. I doubt my eggs will work at my age. Maybe I should've turned to de when I've had my first cycle. The more I learn about it, the more I'm into it! I've changed my attitude to the procedure completely. Now I feel more positive about it! I stopped thinking about relations with a baby or how he/she will look like. Now I feel like I can move further! I still have some questions. I hope someone will help me. How to prepare for ivf with donor eggs? Is it the same as ivf with own eggs? And also it would be great if you tell more about how to find a donor, where did you have your ivf, how much you paid, etc.
I’m sorry about everything you've faced going through infertility... I'm in the same boat. We are about to start de ivf cycle. Of course, all of us including me would prefer to conceive naturally... I wish I could do so... Anyway, I see nothing wrong with using donor eggs. The most important is to get pregnant and give birth to a healthy child. If de ivf is necessary to do - go for it. I have to use donor eggs. I had some doubts... But more I read about de, the more I think it's the best option for me. Anyway as I've already mentioned the most important is a baby. We have to go all the way! Currently, I'm following my treatment plan and getting ready for the transfer. I'm using a Ukrainian clinic BTC. They've found a donor for me. We're paying 11,900 euros for 5 embryo transfers. In the case of 5 negatives, we'll get the money back. So there's kinda no risks for us.
@@sandrapolson2624 good luck with your upcoming cycle! Thanks a lot for your support. I see many comments and reviews about Ukraine. I thought Ukrainian borders are closed... I've read an article about it a couple of days ago. I hope they won't cancel your cycle! So many treatments were canceled/rescheduled recently...
@@francinefranny8999 Thanks, dear! Yes, the borders are closed, but for tourists. We're going as persons who come for treatment to health care institutions of Ukraine. The clinic sent us a special document, which confirms we're coming for the treatment. I was very concerned when the news about borders popped up. I'm so relieved we still can have this cycle!
Same problem of me i also fail my first i v f and i was dispress some days but now i am going to doner egg iv f in beginig treatment i also negative thout about don er egg but now my goal is only be amom anyhow so dont worry about it i taking treatment in progenesis hosp nashik maharashtra
They aren't, biologically. What he's describing is basically just your womb influencing the direction of genes that aren't yours if you're pregnant with a donated egg. Sure, you have some influence and the child will belong to you, but they will never be your blood relation.
It doesn't sound much different to surrogacy to me. Surrogates also gestate and birth a child that isn't theirs, and no one mentions their womb influence in those cases. Seems like all this talk about how the womb influences the embryo is just something to tell prospective mothers to make them feel better about their vastly limited genetic link to their donor conceived children.
When you use a surrogate, the womb also affects the gene expression. People may not mention it, but that doesn't erase it from happening. And yes, it does make prospective mothers feel better, but it's also factual.
The surrogate doesn't need the child....but the donor egg case...she actually needs the child.....this is the only 😊 difference which brings about changes...
Τhat is exactly what CURRENT science tells us. Yes, everybody knows their high school biology facts - half your genes come from one parent, half from the other- but we now know that there is maternal influence in the regulation of those genes during pregnancy. Sure, this influence is small compared to the amount genetic information given by the egg donor, but it is significant. The same zygote if gestated by a different mother would give a different child.
A child from a donor egg is her child for two reasons: because she gives birth to him and raises him. No birth mother, there is not a baby. The baby recognizes the birth mother as his mother, whether or not she has her egg. But the egg donor is also a mother, she is the genetic mother.
Some women cannot conceive with their own eggs or for other reasons...this is a great way to obercome those things and still have a child...other arguments are shortsighted...
Nobody can come this world if you don't have a birth mother. Egg n sperm can't be a human without birth mother. . If doctor can't make hands n legs n nose n later transfer the baby in the womb . That s your baby. Dr just transfer the embryo n just the big blood. No hands. Legs . No ear . No mouth. . That s a science baby. I hope one day Dr will call three parents baby because some egg donation just look like their birth mom and I saw many kids in my country. .
The child can never belong to you through egg donation it’s a sacred contract with the mother for life no matter the circumstances. Those who were forced and organs were stolen & given to others will never be at peace. That sacred contract can never be broken.
Family is not always determined by genes. Those who are genetically parents have bad relationships, what's the use of that? The love and upbringing makes you who you are.
Basically what you are saying is that you are also against organ donors. So if you are in need of a kidney, you would rather decline because there is a sacred contract between the kidney donor and their kidney?
Do you even know what that means? Biologically? She is biologically creating a child in her body. The egg is just the material and the womb is the construction
@@anonym-bd1jp but the seed is not her's...all the genetic information is coded in "egg"...womb is just a gestational place..where the fertilised egg grows....in fact you can see physically also..babies who are born through egg donation..... look like their original mother
@@nikhilnicky7810 Or father. Or a relative. Or no one. That genetic information is influenced by the the birth mom and the birth mom has the ability to affect gene expression. Nurture also has a huge role and that child may act like the birth mom for example. In the end, it is the birth mom who gave that life a chance. It is the birth mom who had the unconditional love and was willing to endure the impossible in many cases to have the child. That type of intentional and unconditional love is the number one ingredient for raising a healthy and well rounded, happy child. The donor is just a donor similar to an organ donor. The donor gave 1 cell and that payed a huge role of course. But the donor is not the child's mother.
I donated 6 times. Those babies are theirs, not mine ❤🥰
Thank you for doing that. God bless you❤
Money ki donate chesara
God bless you
The reason you say that is because you don’t want to admit it’s a business, pretty much!
Of course it's a business! She doesn't have to raise, support them. If a woman can't have a child, oh well. There's a lot of things I want and can't have, I'm not begging strangers for them. If I was one of those babies grown, the "womb woman" would never see me again.
I’m crying. God brought me here to hear this message
aw. hugs. relatable.
Same 💔❤️
Me too ❤
I have been researching this recently. I had my tubes tied during an extremely abusive relationship. Now I'm in a healthy relationship with a man that has never had his own children. I'm 43 and would be extremely concerned that my own eggs would pose health risks for a baby. I would like to use donor eggs and found some interesting information about fetal microchimerism. During pregnancy dna is passed back and forth through the placenta... the pregnancy would literally cause you to be genetically bonded to the baby you carry despite it not being your egg. It is almost as if this method of conception was preordained. Sadly, ill never be able to afford to do this , but I think it is a beautiful medical. miracle
In Poland and Czechia. are really cheap in comparison with EEUU...
@@alejandrasalgado5492 It's better to choose Czech Republic.
@@Skywalker_83 you are right, the Smart phone is not so smart and I didn't realize 🤣
A great video that shows how children conceived through egg donation could resemble their parent(s).
Selecting eggs from donors with particular physical attributes will certainly give you some control over the physical characteristics of the child. But this doesn’t mean it won’t look like its parents.
As mentioned in the video, there are a number of ways the mother can influence the baby’s development during pregnancy and throughout life.
The embryonic fluid where the baby lives in for nine months contains micro RNAs (Ribonucleic acid) molecules that serve as a communication link between the mother and the baby. These could impact both the baby’s physical appearance and personality genes.
Another factor affecting the child’s development is its upbringing. Your parenting style will help shape the person your child will eventually become. What’s also very interesting is that children tend to adopt the vocal and facial expressions of their parents.
No matter how your baby was conceived, parents will play a major role in who their children will eventually become.
So explore all options out there, because sometimes donated embryos could be the only way you can experience the miracle of pregnancy and birth.
I'm also looking into donor eggs. At first, I wasn't sure about this option at all! I thought maybe I should continue trying with my own eggs. I'm 44 and last year I had 2 failed cycles. I doubt my eggs will work at my age. Maybe I should've turned to de when I've had my first cycle. The more I learn about it, the more I'm into it! I've changed my attitude to the procedure completely. Now I feel more positive about it! I stopped thinking about relations with a baby or how he/she will look like. Now I feel like I can move further! I still have some questions. I hope someone will help me. How to prepare for ivf with donor eggs? Is it the same as ivf with own eggs? And also it would be great if you tell more about how to find a donor, where did you have your ivf, how much you paid, etc.
I’m sorry about everything you've faced going through infertility... I'm in the same boat. We are about to start de ivf cycle. Of course, all of us including me would prefer to conceive naturally... I wish I could do so... Anyway, I see nothing wrong with using donor eggs. The most important is to get pregnant and give birth to a healthy child. If de ivf is necessary to do - go for it. I have to use donor eggs. I had some doubts... But more I read about de, the more I think it's the best option for me. Anyway as I've already mentioned the most important is a baby. We have to go all the way! Currently, I'm following my treatment plan and getting ready for the transfer. I'm using a Ukrainian clinic BTC. They've found a donor for me. We're paying 11,900 euros for 5 embryo transfers. In the case of 5 negatives, we'll get the money back. So there's kinda no risks for us.
@@sandrapolson2624 good luck with your upcoming cycle! Thanks a lot for your support. I see many comments and reviews about Ukraine. I thought Ukrainian borders are closed... I've read an article about it a couple of days ago. I hope they won't cancel your cycle! So many treatments were canceled/rescheduled recently...
@@francinefranny8999 Thanks, dear! Yes, the borders are closed, but for tourists. We're going as persons who come for treatment to health care institutions of Ukraine. The clinic sent us a special document, which confirms we're coming for the treatment. I was very concerned when the news about borders popped up. I'm so relieved we still can have this cycle!
@@sandrapolson2624 could you please share the Clinic's name?
Same problem of me i also fail my first i v f and i was dispress some days but now i am going to doner egg iv f in beginig treatment i also negative thout about don er egg but now my goal is only be amom anyhow so dont worry about it i taking treatment in progenesis hosp nashik maharashtra
They dont say this to surrogates though 🤔🤔🤔
different business model
Thnx a lot for the explanation, b’cos I have been worried about the issue with the generic 🙏
i needed to hear this thank you!
Thanks doc for this information
Always welcome!
I would love to donate my eggs most of the agencies that I see it goes to age 28 29 I guess my 30-year-old eggs are too old☹️
Great of you
They are not I'm almost 37.also have aspergers syndrome I'm sad the cut of point without syndromes is 35.
You can donate without an agency
My donor is 31 with high follicles and I have a baby from her embryo
He didn't really explain how the child is yours if the eggs are not.
They aren't, biologically. What he's describing is basically just your womb influencing the direction of genes that aren't yours if you're pregnant with a donated egg. Sure, you have some influence and the child will belong to you, but they will never be your blood relation.
epicgenetics and mrna interactions
Facts. Really in essence he was explaining how you can influence your child at any time during their life.
It doesn't sound much different to surrogacy to me. Surrogates also gestate and birth a child that isn't theirs, and no one mentions their womb influence in those cases. Seems like all this talk about how the womb influences the embryo is just something to tell prospective mothers to make them feel better about their vastly limited genetic link to their donor conceived children.
When you use a surrogate, the womb also affects the gene expression. People may not mention it, but that doesn't erase it from happening. And yes, it does make prospective mothers feel better, but it's also factual.
same procedure different business model, hence different marketing/advertising
The surrogate doesn't need the child....but the donor egg case...she actually needs the child.....this is the only 😊 difference which brings about changes...
Aku ingin melakukan nya tapi tidak ada biaya
Txsm doctor
with all due respect, I do not think this is what science will tell us, but I am still considering an egg donor myself.
Τhat is exactly what CURRENT science tells us. Yes, everybody knows their high school biology facts - half your genes come from one parent, half from the other- but we now know that there is maternal influence in the regulation of those genes during pregnancy. Sure, this influence is small compared to the amount genetic information given by the egg donor, but it is significant. The same zygote if gestated by a different mother would give a different child.
Interesting to know. that makes sense though scientifically
look up epigenetics and mrna interactions through the womb, ur way behind latest science
I would not want to use donated eggs. I want a genetically native child
Well some women can't bc their eggs are nonviable or carry high risk for horrible genetic diseases they would never want to pass on...
Then shut up
I agree wouldn't want either
Exactly
Me neither, but if you don't have a choice, better not have children at all?
No, a child from a donor egg is not your child. You carry someone else's child. I couldn't do it and decided to be childless/childfree.
This a a very shortsighted and immature comment.
@@realspark21 She is right, not immature
Exactly it is no different to being a surrogate
A child from a donor egg is her child for two reasons: because she gives birth to him and raises him. No birth mother, there is not a baby. The baby recognizes the birth mother as his mother, whether or not she has her egg. But the egg donor is also a mother, she is the genetic mother.
I agree, I can’t do it. I’d rather be childfree. But it Nah be completely fitting for another person. Whatever makes YOU happy and feels right to YOU.
It's really quite a shame to try to persuade women to become mothers by egg donation...
He’s not trying to convince anyone- he’s describing the DE program. Maybe some women need alternatives? Ever think of that?
Some women cannot conceive with their own eggs or for other reasons...this is a great way to obercome those things and still have a child...other arguments are shortsighted...
Is it unnatural and strange. I feel bad for the children
You don’t know th struggle; you are not in this boat; we have hope don’t sink our ship
Exactly. All for money
The real mother will always be out there. How can you claim another woman's eggs as your own?
Nobody can come this world if you don't have a birth mother. Egg n sperm can't be a human without birth mother. . If doctor can't make hands n legs n nose n later transfer the baby in the womb . That s your baby. Dr just transfer the embryo n just the big blood. No hands. Legs . No ear . No mouth. . That s a science baby. I hope one day Dr will call three parents baby because some egg donation just look like their birth mom and I saw many kids in my country. .
They sign a paper
Family is creating through relationships not genetics. Genetics mean nothing in creating a family
@@hannguyen6095 people are so delusional. It's no more then a surrogate. Exactly the same thing with a different label.
@@i.rail.straggots2605 genetics is everything to do with a family.
The child can never belong to you through egg donation it’s a sacred contract with the mother for life no matter the circumstances. Those who were forced and organs were stolen & given to others will never be at peace. That sacred contract can never be broken.
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I totally disagree with you
the child have sacred contract with its birth mothers that will take care of them for life, donnors are just helpers to this sacred contract.
Family is not always determined by genes. Those who are genetically parents have bad relationships, what's the use of that? The love and upbringing makes you who you are.
Basically what you are saying is that you are also against organ donors. So if you are in need of a kidney, you would rather decline because there is a sacred contract between the kidney donor and their kidney?
Not biologically.
Do you even know what that means? Biologically? She is biologically creating a child in her body. The egg is just the material and the womb is the construction
@@anonym-bd1jp but the seed is not her's...all the genetic information is coded in "egg"...womb is just a gestational place..where the fertilised egg grows....in fact you can see physically also..babies who are born through egg donation..... look like their original mother
@@nikhilnicky7810 Or father. Or a relative. Or no one. That genetic information is influenced by the the birth mom and the birth mom has the ability to affect gene expression. Nurture also has a huge role and that child may act like the birth mom for example. In the end, it is the birth mom who gave that life a chance. It is the birth mom who had the unconditional love and was willing to endure the impossible in many cases to have the child. That type of intentional and unconditional love is the number one ingredient for raising a healthy and well rounded, happy child. The donor is just a donor similar to an organ donor. The donor gave 1 cell and that payed a huge role of course. But the donor is not the child's mother.
Being biologically related won’t make a mom 😂 then all egg donors are mothers 😂 they do it for money not for social services ….