Should You Switch? 2022 HEAD Auxetic Extreme Tour vs HEAD Graphene 360+ Extreme Tour
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- Опубліковано 22 лип 2024
- Today I compare the NEW HEAD Auxetic Extreme Tour and HEAD Graphene 360+ Tour (My Racquet) in terms of groundstrokes, volleys and serves...but is it fair to mention the new paint job because it is rad!
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VIDEO CHAPTERS
0:00 Intro
1:50 Initial Thoughts
3:10 Stock or Customized?
5:40 Forehands
6:45 Backhands
7:33 Volleys
8:46 Serves
9:50 Should You Switch? Will I Switch?
12:39 Outro
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Excellent! review! I value your opinion because of all your experience with this racquet line! 🙏🎾 Thanks again as always ☺️ miss the days when the online retailers were just about giving the Extreme Pro version away after about six months lol 😉😅
Thank you, Nathan! You are an OG sub! And yes, haha that is very true.
Great job! Very informative
thanks mimi!!
Just ordered 2 of these after demoing it as well as the new Speed Pro, Radical Pro, Gravity Pro, Pure Strike 18x20 and Pure Aero 98…Regular racquet is Speed Pro 360+ and was set on ordering the 2024 Speed Pros until trying the Extreme Tour…I used Radicals in my late teens/early twenties then used Speeds until now (44yrs old) and used Extreme Pros for 2yrs when they first came out…they all feel great but I ruled out the Pure Strike, Gravity and Radical simply because it was evident that they’re just a little more hard work, still loved their feel though but it’s suited to me 20yrs ago…love the ease of use and power/spin of the PA98 but the Speed Pro was winning that battle on feel, then I tried the Extreme Tour and it just seemed to give me everything I loved from all the racquets, like a easier more powerful Radical Pro(MP would’ve been worth trying), nicer feeling PA98 and a more powerful Speed but still with great feel
Been waiting for this video! I have been demoing it for a couple of weeks and I made the switch and ordered a few. I felt like it was an exact copy of the older version but it flexed slightly more and was softer while having better feel and pop. I noticed the “gun” sound as well. I felt it gained power but didn’t lose any control. Glad they didn’t change much, it was already a very nice stick.
Agree with you. I'm glad I didn't change much either.
Cade, please take some time and search out a local racquet shop in your area. If they have access to a head 3-1 machine, or a babolat RDC machine, you should really consider having your racquets professionally matched. If you're unable to find one, I'm happy to do it for you back in Toronto (I'm a MRT and have a head 3-1 machine). I think at your level, you should be able to gain some confidence from having all your sticks matched perfectly.
Also, as a junior high performance coach I must say I love your content. Best of luck this season!
-Charles
Ya...that would be awesome to have. I am from Quispamsis, New Brunswick and I am pretty sure no one in my area would have one of those. I will check around here in New Hampshire. Thanks for the kind comment about the channel. I really appreciate it. 👍
The big difference between Wilson’s Counterveil and Heads Auxetic is the feel. I have tryed most racquets out there and Auxetic is the best upgrade so far. Playing with Head speed pro 2022 I feel the ball and I have full control while still giving really great comfort, arm friendly and very nice sweet spot.
Can’t wait to try out Head extreme MP in the future. A power racquet although with tighter string pattern towards middle for more control than the previous versions.
Cheers 🍻
If I hit rather flat but now changing my swing to reverse finish forehand, will Speed Pro have a good trajectory/net clearance? I play with EZone 98 Tour but it kinda muted for me
It would be really nice if you could do a comparison between the Yonex Ezone 98 2022 and the Head Extreme Tour 2022. Maybe also the Ezone with some weights.
I will see if I can do it👍🏼
I think the 360+ and the newer Auxetic versions are really similar. I was playing with both this week, same string and grip (Head leather) etc and I could go between the two without noticing the difference much at all. The Auxetic is slightly more muted and the flex feels ever so slightly different. It's maybe 90% the same racquet as the 360+.
Wooo! Been waiting for this review. Thanks for the detailed comparison between the new and old ET!
Helped me reinforce my decision to stick with the graphene 360+ ET and hold off on the auxetic ET.
Thanks!
Awesome! Happy you are loving the Extreme line still!
I was wondering if i should buy 2022 now. Tried extreme tour last month, because of your older video and i really love it. My game is now better in all aspects. Have it stock with polytour pro and ill stick with old ET based on this review. Whats your recommendation on string? Before i had pure strikes 18x20 and tested in last 3 months vcore 98, ezone 98, but no where near to ET. Thanks a lot and love your videos!
Great comment, I love Solinco confidential
Thanks for this nice Video!! Why are you using the solinco confidential ? What are the pros and what might be the cons ? What made you switch, because i think in your old customization video about the 360 extreme tour you did strung it with Head Lynx tour.
Greets from Germany ! ✌🏼
Great question. Literally a couple days after that vid I went confidential. I used the head string because head suggested that I try that. I used confidential in my old pure Aero too. I feel like with confidential just know where it's going. It's very predictable. Can I swing, and I know what I get. Some other strings that I've used in the past I don't get that feeling. Thanks for the comment.
@@MPTennis Thank you for this great and detailed answer. I would really love to see some more racket reviews and maybe in comparison to your current extreme tour too. For example the pure aero vs, head speed pro/mp and vcore/ezone 98. Keep it going!! 👍🏻✌🏼
Thanks for another great video. You did mention that the new Auxetic ET has a more muted feel - did this mean that it felt more arm-friendly in general? I've been playing with the pure aero VS for a while and love the racquet but started to get arm issues due to stiffness. Was wondering if switching to the Auxetic ET would be a good idea. Thanks!
That's a great question. I mean maybe the new one is better on the arm by a little bit but I wouldn't say by much. It would be better though than any pure Aero frame. Those are generally very stiff (arm friendly).
I have speed pro the older and the newer version and the auxetic made it more plush not muted. Definetly more arm friendly.
Sorry if I missed this, but do you have any thoughts about the new extreme mp? A lot of people really love it and see it as tied for best new spin friendly racquet along with the new pure aero
I have not yet played the new xtreme MP but I have the old one. I've heard very good things about it.
I usually use a Pure Aero VS. Bought the new Pure Aero 98 and it destroyed my arm this week. Just very odd. I have an Extreme Tour so am thinking about switching to it and maybe getting a second. If I get a backup, which of the two, gray or avocado, would you say is more "arm friendly"? I also have Lynx Tour in the Extreme I currently have. Feels nice and plush IMO. What makes you prefer the Confidential over the Lynx Tour? Thanks.
Cool! Ya imo, the confidential is just a better string in every single department. Not one thing I like more about lynx more than confidential except that champagne color.
I tested a demo of this today. Enjoyed playing with it. And I enjoyed it is stock form. I'm going to try to trade in my Pure Aero 98 for the Avocado Extreme.
Awesome
What didn’t u like abt the 98? I’m curious because I want to demo both
@@SpiceLifeWithShams There's a noticeable increase in swingweight over the Extreme Tour and PAVS. Some people may like the increased swingweight but some reason it aggravated my tennis elbow. So I'm playing with the new Extreme Tour and using the Pure Aero VS and older Extreme Tour as a backup and leaving the Pure Aero 98 in the bag for now.
@@SpiceLifeWithShams Just to note, I did play well with the 98. I would recommend demoing the 98, Extreme Tour and Yonex VCore 98 and see what feels best for you.
@@JohnSmith-pb4ri Thank You so much for the insights I will demo all three. I am using the Speed pro Tour but i dont get any easy access to spin. I came from a pure drive and pure strike so tennis without spin doesnt feel right ,
Great video!!
Not sure if you watched tenncom's review but curious to know if you felt the same about how the new extreme tour allegedly flexes more, creating a catapult effect. Apparently this gives it more power but also less predictability/ solid feel.
That's the one thing I felt...... That I forgot to say.
I know your main racket is the new extreme tour and I would like to ask what string and tension you are using? That you have tried so many different string set up, which one you think is the best.🙏🏼
I use confidential at 54/52
Thanks for the great video. I’ve been using the extreme tour 360 with leather grip and over grip, lead tape at 3&9 for stability and at 12. One hand backhand. Thoughts on removing the tape at 12?
I like a heavy frame and have no arm issues at all, but it would be nice to remove all the lead tape and keep this racquet lighter for faster swing speed. But I find every time I remove tape it just feels flimsy and unstable and end up putting the tape back.
Thoughts ?
Any idea how this racquet compares to the pro staff 97 rf. Or aero vs?
Thanks
I personally don't like it at 12. I have 3-9 & 10-2 with some in the grip and butt. Extreme has more control than the VS and is a little bit more powerful than PS.
Thanks. I agree. I tried the pro staff rf97 and while it feels amazing, the extreme tour had a bit more power.
I’ll try just removing the lead tape from 12 position. Thanks
I removed lead at 12 and from handle.
Only customization now is leather grip plus over grip, and lead tape at 3/9. It is now headlight but not super headlight. And I feel it plays best like this. It swings through the ball way better now than when I had more lead in handle.
@@voltron987 AWESOME! Glad it plays well for you!
@@MPTennis what is your final weight?
Have you ever hit with a Pro Staff 97? That's what I am currently playing with but I would like to find a frame that offers more power while providing the same if not more spin and control. If you've ever hit with the Pro Staff 97, how would you compare the two?
The extreme tour has more power and spin than PS with a higher launch angle. I prefer extreme tour.
Substitute ' technology ' for features because that's what they are. Auxtetic is polyurethane. Nothing more. It first hit the public view in the 70s on skateboard wheels, it might have been around before then but it was the real deal for skateboarding, it felt like you were gliding on air except it was tarmac
Hello sir,
switched to the Extreme 2 weeks ago and my Plan is to customize it on my Own.
Do u only have the weight at 3/9 and 12 or u still have some weight in your grip.
I have 3/9 , 10/12 and in the grip
@MPTennis - I know you since moved on, but I have to ask for my own sake - if you are adding lead to Extreme Tour to improve its stability, are you not better off just starting with Radical MP which has a higher starting SW and stability?
Ya you could. But I liked that racquet line at the time so I was trying to work with it if I could.
These racquets are great but the quality control tolerances are so bad with Head and some others. One racquet does not feel like the other. Sad.
On paper new aero seems to fit me better. It tried my friends extreme MP and it just feels so much better than the aero w my shots! But funny is on both occasions after trying aero n MP, I use back my old vcore pro n I was able to hit much harder w better confidence after demoing those rackets. Anyone ever experienced the same or can explain why so?
Probably because vcore pro offers more control and plow through compared to these other racquets. You were probably able to swing through 100% and have confidence in your shots. Sometimes with more powerful frames you don't have that 100% confidence that's going in.
You get good backhand slice with the extreme tour auxetic? Good control? Good spin?
Ya overall I liked it for that!
I ordered an extreme tour auxetic. I used one quarter grip size In the old tour 360 and ordered the auxetic with one quarter grip size also. Will I be ok or shall I go one eighth if the grip runs bigger? Is the difference noticeable to go one grip smaller?
I would have to send it back to tennis warehouse and reorder then. I’m expecting the racket tomorrow.
I use a one handed backhand.
I noticed a very very little difference but nothing that was worth sending a racket back in my opinion. You will have to be the judge I guess. Thanks!
Thanks.
Have you tried the new pure aero 98? If you have, how do they compare?
I tried the VS but I haven't played the 98 yet
Just to clarify, you put 4.5cm lead tape at 3 and 9 o’clock each, 5cm at 10 and 2 o’clock each, and 9cm times two on the handle?
Everything is right there except I put nine cm at 10 &2
@@MPTennis
C'est quand même fou.
Je suis français, je ne parle pas anglais, mais ils te posent des questions alors que la réponse est dans la vidéo!!🤔
J'ai vu ta vidéo. J'ai bien compris 4,5 cm/9cm en tête et 2 fois 9 cm au manche.
Bon, mais juste pour savoir les 9cm au manche de chaque côté, c'est du 1/4 de chaque côté et pas 1/4*2 de chaque côté.
Merci.
As tu modifié quelque chose depuis, et où peut on voir tes résultats sportifs. Merci.
J'adorerai voir des highlights de tes matchs.
Bonne continuation
Just out of curiosity, what grip size do you use?
4⅜
Hey, so i‘ve got my Extreme Tour 2022 demo today and i want to try your recommended customization.
So just to be sure:
- 9cm of lead at the handle
- 4,5cm at 3 and 9
- 5cm at the 10 and 2 area
Am I right ?
Any other recommendations ?
So hyped so try it out!! ✌🏼
Very close.... 9cm on each side of grip and 9cm at 10-2. Everything else is good!
@@MPTennis I think you said in the Video, that you took off 4cm at 10 and 2, because the 2022 felt more sluggish than your 360 extreme or am I wrong ?
@@Mjs492 actually I think you are right. I was talking about my 360. My bad
@@MPTennis have you tried just at 10 and 2 areas?
@@erickodama8137 No. I like it at 3-9 with 10-2. its perfect for me.
This is my racquet of choice at the moment but I found something similar to you. I have the Nite version and absolutely loved it once customized. Bought a second gray one and customized it the same way and it felt so sluggish and just not great. I think the swingweight was way off on the gray one.
Interesting. I love ET. It could have been a quality control thing you think?
How does it compare to the pure aero VS?
No as much power or spin. More controlled
what grip size are you using?
4⅜
What racket gives more spin the extreme tour or the new vcore 95?
i would say similar but probably more with extreme imo.
I like the new vcore 95 feel at contact due to its flexible feel. But the smaller head gives you less hitting area regardless of the big sweet spot due to the isometric shape. Also, I find that the Extreme head shape lends more to generate topspin strokes. The Vcore drives the ball better. So it depends what one is looking for and the playing style. At least that’s how it interpret it though I only used this new vcore 3 or 4 times. I used more the past itinerarion of the vcore and with that one it was even harder to go over the ball to generate spin.
Would you say the Auxetic ET has more inherent stability than the 360+?
Honestly I felt that they were very similar. When there was an off center hit with auxetic it felt a tad more muted VS 360+
@@MPTennis Okay, thanks. I really like my 360+, but struggle a bit with losing power off-center. I am probably past my swingweight limit as it is (currently 338), so more lead is not in the cards. Hence I was hoping the Auxetic would give me a little more margin... Maybe time to try something else (or improve my strokes--nah!). Ever try a Radical MP?
@@vanodne I actually have not. I know it plays somewhat similar to extreme tour.
@@MPTennis might be worth a hit as the stability (ET's weakness) is a little better
Do you think that the sweet spot in The auxetic is smaller than The 360+? I've seen some people saying that...
Thanks for the informations, rly enjoy your videos!
Thank you Eric. I actually found them very similar. People might think that because the new one is more muted thaty the 360+ so that might create less feedback and feel smaller if you know what I mean.
How does it compare with the vcore 98? Also, new vcores are coming out.
Great question.... Sadly I have only ever used vcore 95.
Vcore 98 is more forgiving than the vcore 95. More predictable in my opinion than the extreme 360. You can drive the ball better with the vcore 98.
I have not tried the extreme auxetic yet. .
I also have an extreme tour 360 which I used for the past year. I will add some weight and see if this helps. And continue demoing the vcore 98 and maybe try the auxetic.
Does the new auxetic generate the same amount of spin compared with the 360?
Why do you prefer the extreme tour over the vcore 95?
Did you try the extreme mp auxetic?
Hi, the new Extreme seems to have a bigger (thicker) grip than the previous version. Am I wrong?
Actually yes..... And the beam looks a bit bigger too but on paper both are not. Thought I would have sounded silly saying those things haha.
@@MPTennis I'm a quite advanced player (not at your level though) so I notice these details and I'm happy that I'm not the only strange person in the room 😄
I use L3 Prince/Wilson/previous Head and L2 Babolat/Yonex.
I think that for this version of Extreme Tour I have to order the L2 grip and I have to put 2 overgrips.
I have the one-hand backhand and if the grip size is even just a little bigger I cannot manage well the shot, especially in tournaments when the arm muscles could become tired after a while.
What is your customizing?
What do you think about leather grip and lead at 12 o'clock?
You should really list weight in grams, not length. The width of the tape, material (lead vs tungsten) all makes a difference.
I have no idea how much weight you added to your frame.
Sorry.... I don't have a scale and I'm at school (student life). Gotta work with what I got. I used lead ¼ strips.
You made the racquet is so heavy. Just get a gravity pro