OPENING A CLIMBING GYM. ADVICE From 2 YEARS in BUSINESS
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- Опубліковано 3 сер 2024
- Do you want to open a climbing gym? I have been in business for 2 years and now its the end, well the end of one chapter. Here is a few pointers I've learned and will be taking forward.
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I'm so sorry to hear this! I loved watching you struggle and succeed through all of this. I think your living the dream a lot of us want to live but I agree with your wisdom. Those choices are the hardest but being able to lay to rest the past is what will ring your a better future. So excited to see where you end up next and what climber dad looks like in the future!
Damn, I’m sorry to hear that man. I appreciate all the advice and how you turned this into a learning experience. Thank you for being wise and making me think critically.
Appreciate all the openness and advice. My home bouldergym is now operational and having a blast making routes. Wish you the best with your business
Man, I can’t believe it. I was really pulling for you even though I’m not in your area. You are a creative and inspired individual so nothing is closed to you. When one door closes, another opens!
I feel for you. I really like your videos and followed your journey for the last year. I always planned to visit your gym one day to see it in reality. I wish you the best of luck for your future. Keep your positivity and your wonderful midset up and I am sure your next business will be a huge success.
New subscriber here. Appreciate all you do and wishing you the best with this transition! 🌱
Sorry to hear that you are having to close. Just before lockdown I was looking into opening a climbing gym. I think you are so right about the building you set up in is so important.
Height, floor area, and parking spaces are key features to look for.
Bro im so sorry but youll go to bigger and better stuff and just remember to keep your head up and seek bigger dreams. Your videos are amazing and you can get through it.
I found out about this from the Geek Climber channel and was devastated. I wish you, your family and your employees all the best. Looking forward to seeing what your new chapter brings!
Thanks
Bummer brother...I liked the vid because it’s great info, but it was a sad vid in the end. I have faith you’ll be moving to bigger and better things!! Good luck.
Hopefully you gonna get through this, I wish you to have enough energy and patience. Good luck
Thanks for sharing your experience, sorry to hear this happening due to the tough circumstances
Thanks for watching!
Sorry to hear about the closure. I think lots of small businesses are going to be struggling right now, and their landlord's might want to consider that fact a little more and have some level of cash-flow coming in, rather than none. I think a lot of these businesses that are having to close due to overhead from their leases/properties are going to leave a property that will stay vacant for a long time. Anyhow, really sorry to hear about the closure, I hope you are able to find a home for your walls, and hopefully there are opportunities for a better, more suitable location for your dedications. Best of luck with everything, and if you ever need virtual, long distance, help with anything, you know where to find me. I am excited to see what other projects and adventures you get up to outside of the gym.
My condolences! I'm new to your channel but I'm wishing you the best of luck with the next chapter, +1 like and subscribed!
Thanks.
Thank you Climber Dad from fan to super fan now brother.
Do not give up on the dream. Your focus will win out over time.
Damn, I got away from youtube for a bit so its sucks to come back and hear that. Hope things are going well. Still going through and catching up on your vids.
That’s tough man stay strong
Dang, I live in Canada and wanted to go to your Gym some day,... well, I hope now to go to your future bigger gym some day! This COVID may be a blessing in disguise if you were thinking that your Gym was too small ;)
Stay strong, man.
Very sad to hear this, you realy build an awesome place.
Keep your head up man.
Sad to hear that you will be closing. I watched many of your videos to help built my own home wall. Wish you all the best. 🙏
I still plan on making videos to support owner built climbing walls 😀
Climber Dad Great!! Will be supporting you on your UA-cam channel for sure. ✌️
thank you for touching on that negative aspect of the hannold free solo stuff. ive had similar experiences
Consider negotiating a deal with nearby school or college
Apparently the trend is different here. There are so many Boulder only gyms appearing here (Germany). Actually the trend is here is that people start with boulder. Something I couldn't imagine 5 years ago.
The key was apparently a lot of easy&safe but interesting boulders. (Something that I consider harder to bolt than the hard stuff)
Thanks for insight. I've heard bouldering gyms are big In Germany. In the US in general if you walk into a well established climbing gym the bouldering area will be packed and the ropes empty unless the gym sets trash for boulders. But, ropes get people in the doors.
Over the last few years gyms have exploded here. So many gyms with more than 1000m2 apeared here over the last years and each was full before corona (now the number of climbers is limited). And thats partialy due to the boulder trend. One of the leadings gyms that initiated the trend to boulder only was "cafe kraft". cafekraft.de. The effect you describe that the ropes are not used I have only obseved in a gym that a lack of "bolting creativity" for sport but a good boulder community. Now they have transformed most of the sport area to boulder with great sucess. Most beginners I know whent to a gym to boulder to just have some fun. Boulder is apealing as there is no complicated hardware and is considered safer by them (in contrast to your experience). My impression is that, nor the style or the size of the gym is key for sucess, but mainly good bolting (specially in the lower grades).
its indeed so great info , but i am unhappy to see you leave this space, You will find a better one soon. Just one question what height is sufficient enough to add ropes to some of your gym walls.
Thanks. Thats a great question. I would say the minimum is 20'. The maximum boulder height, IMHO, without doing something abnormal like giant pads or netting is 16'. This roped wall lives in that grey area at 17' and I wrestled with it for a while because its really not enough to rope up.
Man, I want to have a bouldering wall like that at home! How tall is it? To hear you had to close makes me wonder how my Michigan gym hasn’t closed for good despite STILL being closed in August
They probably had some money saved up before the shutdown. We we're still in the new phase and running on credit.
This wall stood at 15'. Measurement of the panel are in the video :)
When you say "tear down the walls" do you mean "destroy" or just debuild, maybe store and use later again? Sad to hear it didn't work out. But it looks like you learned a lot from it and next time it will last much longer. Stay strong!
Debuild is a great word for it.
@Climber Dad, I have a question about parking. We are looking into a building that is industrial where there are designated spots however during regular off hours (weekends and after 5pm) the parking lot opens up to our use with 75+ spots. Having worked at multiple gyms there has always been a peak capacity after 5pm (usually 7pm). Knowing this would you still be inclined to approach this style of building or would you find something that has tons of available parking?
How much designated parking is yours throughout the day and will other businesses complain if you use their parking in the evening and weekends?
@@climberdad Only looks like 4-7 spaces throughout the day. Because it is strata owned we are attempting to obtain strata approval for parking use during off hours.
That would be a big red flag to me until approval is obtained.
My buddy and I are looking to open a club in Northern Cali. I know about getting punked. In the last go, my store was shut for 3 MONTHS, Jack. No revenue for three goddamn months. My sales taxes in that quarter was 50 bucks!
We made it through. My store still stands!
For the new climbing gym project, the problem now is that there is nothing suitable to buy (El Dorado County, the home of the Sierras, by the way.) and a nice buildout will cost me around 5 million for land, new construction of 35 thousand feet and the TI work. Looking towards a section 7a with SBA.
Trying to get financing now. We have excellent credit and tons of business success behind us but are hard pressed to finance needing 500k down.
Any advice?
Sounds about right. Keep on going.
Man, I am so sorry for this. It is such a pity that you have to close due to the pandemic :/
It was a lot of things that added up together. I'll still be here helping people build their own walls :)
That sucks man. You worked hard to get the gym going. Hopefully you can find a better space!
Thanks.
You said all the thing I did before I started! But I own the building it’s hard from the landlord to kick you out in these days....
Maybe find some people want to buy your walls?
I'm looking. I would love to have been able to purchase a building for our gym.
Climber Dad dude your are an epic person good luck where ever your way takes you!!
I have a building and property in South Georgia. It sits across from a newly built school. I'm here bc I want to open up a gym.
Treadstone climbing is in Columbus, GA. Anywhere near there?
@@climberdad closer to the east. About an hour west of Savannah.
@@climberdad if you have any advice on how to go about it, I would definitely be interested to hear it. Even starting with wall construction and where to buy holds from or what kind of insurance to buy. I'm all ears.
Shoot me an email. Theclimberdad@gmail.com
Start a new channel all about buildinga. New climbing gym
So sorry , hang in there
I can see some pain in your eyes from talking about the shutdown.
Just pulling through it to be honest.
So misleading
What is misleading?