Recording the Ludwig Neusonic Drums

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 138

  • @AndrewMasters
    @AndrewMasters  Рік тому +17

    Drums are so fun. How are you rocking them? Wide open or dead and fat?

    • @Rhythmic1
      @Rhythmic1 Рік тому

      I see the utility in either way but as a rock drummer I lean towards wide open. Usually with just a little muffling.

    • @paolotonolo1140
      @paolotonolo1140 Рік тому

      I was forced into retirement because of health , so I took a week at sampling my 1965 Ludwig's before I sold them ..still have my Supra though ...into recording now :-)
      But the Ludwig seem to be the Studio Standard , and always will be.

    • @bradplant872
      @bradplant872 Рік тому

      I have tendency to gravitate towards Emperors on batters and Ambassadors on the resonate heads. Coated, versus vintage coated, versus clear depends. Clear for live, coated for recording is pretty much status quo for me. Snare almost always coated Emperor X. And I always port the bass drum for feel on the pedals and for ease of internal mic placement. I have a Beta 91A mounted on a Kelly Shu.

    • @robertdemaree2165
      @robertdemaree2165 Рік тому

      Open better more natural

    • @johnweyers2685
      @johnweyers2685 11 місяців тому

      Wide open.

  • @recordingwithrev3496
    @recordingwithrev3496 Рік тому +5

    I love the before sound.

  • @321CatDaddy
    @321CatDaddy 11 місяців тому +4

    Having been in the studio playing drums for other clients, I am fully aware that the "controlled" sound is preferable in most situations, and these sound good muffled. But man, it took all the life and character out of the kit when the duct tape and the mandatory hole cutting was done. My point is, now they sound like every other studio drum kit. They lost that special "character" that they had. I have a small Pro Tools setup, and I know you have to do what you have to do to get the drums to sit in the mix. But to all the young drummers starting out, spend time to learn how to tune your kit ( unless the studio has their own kit, then whattayougonnado) swap heads, try different sticks and a million other ideas you can find here online before you grab the duct tape and the dinner plate template.😄 I'm not saying this kit would be appropriate wide open for every project, but don't think you HAVE to muffle your kit. Great video, very informative, and MUCH RESPECT to Andrew and Jack! Rock on, dudes! 🤓
    PS yes I am an old fart Bonham disciple who has muffled up and cut holes to get paid and called back. But I felt like such a whore.....😂😂😂 ❤

  • @johnweyers2685
    @johnweyers2685 Рік тому +15

    I really liked the first version the best. Love the open sound.

  • @MustafaShaheen
    @MustafaShaheen Рік тому +32

    Would love a vid on how you tuned those toms! The pre-dampened sound is SO rich.

  • @markpmar0356
    @markpmar0356 Рік тому +11

    They sound great out of the box.

  • @JulianFernandez
    @JulianFernandez Рік тому +4

    Ludwig rocks!

  • @jaypaulson5181
    @jaypaulson5181 Рік тому +4

    I had to stop to comment-
    Your little one’s giggle at his mother’s displeasure just made my day!

  • @InfamousGarageHack
    @InfamousGarageHack Рік тому +7

    Thanks for posting this demo. I appreciate the comparison between the two sounds. Really liking the wide open sound. Very full sound from that 20/12/14 set up.
    Cheers🍻

  • @iengineer_247
    @iengineer_247 Рік тому +10

    The kit sound amazing!!! I like the first snare better. Of course clean a little mid lows up but it sound good and I'm loving the toms!!!!

  • @Motherloadrocks
    @Motherloadrocks Рік тому +4

    Ludwigs versatility is why I always put them top of the list against all other manufacturers

    • @321CatDaddy
      @321CatDaddy 11 місяців тому +1

      Yep. Tried a few others, but after almost 45 years still a Ludwig man!

  • @Rhythmic1
    @Rhythmic1 Рік тому +2

    For any drum shell the acid test for me is for lack of better words how pure and pristine the overtones are when they're wide open and these shells past the test with flying colors.

  • @arianamastersofficial
    @arianamastersofficial Рік тому +6

    This kids laugh gets me every time. Love the video and LOVE the new drum kit :)

  • @waxsback
    @waxsback Рік тому +6

    Some stuff you just can’t go wrong with , like Ludwig drums
    Fender jazz bass , Shure 57 etc….
    Great video I hope you do one showing how you tune the drums

  • @dezyote
    @dezyote Рік тому +3

    Sounds great !! Both sound great love them Ludwigs!!

  • @gianmarcorosso
    @gianmarcorosso Рік тому +1

    you're livin' the dream! those drums sounds fan-tas-tic !

  • @RokDAWG1
    @RokDAWG1 Рік тому +1

    I love the tones you’re getting from this kit!

  • @douglasdrummer
    @douglasdrummer Рік тому

    Killer drum sound, ready to go kit!

  • @LucaGehring
    @LucaGehring Рік тому +2

    beautiful kit

  • @Thom726
    @Thom726 Рік тому +3

    Andrew, you’ve got a great helper!!

  • @duppyoscar
    @duppyoscar Рік тому +1

    That Bass Drum sounds amazing. And both kit snare and black beauty snare have a killer sound.

  • @miked5487
    @miked5487 5 місяців тому +1

    Damn these drums sound huge

  • @udosmidt4133
    @udosmidt4133 5 місяців тому

    The sound of this kit is great, I like it.

  • @gonzu88
    @gonzu88 Рік тому

    Amazing

  • @elijahpatrick3164
    @elijahpatrick3164 Рік тому +1

    Love your videos man!!

  • @Not_Andrew_Huberman
    @Not_Andrew_Huberman Рік тому

    Wow... think I found my next kit thanks

  • @JakeReedmusic
    @JakeReedmusic Рік тому

    This is a heart-warming video. Sounds rad!

  • @ramonkey2939
    @ramonkey2939 3 місяці тому

    Nice kit Ludwig got something nice here

  • @FredMoore-3
    @FredMoore-3 Рік тому

    Super nice. Killer swing on the hats !

  • @mule659
    @mule659 4 місяці тому

    Great sounding kit! Also dig the Universal snare. I just bought that same one and have been really pleased so far.

  • @adamalexanderray
    @adamalexanderray Рік тому +1

    Those cymbals and kit sound real nice.

  • @salthedrummer1
    @salthedrummer1 Рік тому +1

    They sound great!

  • @GourtyMaxx
    @GourtyMaxx 2 місяці тому

    Drums sound ammmaaazzzziiingggg

  • @beatsbynevermind
    @beatsbynevermind 6 місяців тому

    you have a beautiful family man... keep it up!

  • @michaelclark5020
    @michaelclark5020 8 місяців тому

    This thing sounds amazing right out of the box and both set ups sounded good for different applications but I like right out of the box the best.

  • @DWISE7
    @DWISE7 Рік тому +1

    sound great man

  • @justinreynolds3935
    @justinreynolds3935 Рік тому +3

    Ludwig snares man. Always sound good. Killer kit and tones.

    • @321CatDaddy
      @321CatDaddy 11 місяців тому

      When I passed my boards the first thing I bought was a brand new, right outta the box Ludwig engraved Black Beauty snare. Then I found my kids and me a house to rent! Priorities! 🤣🤣

  • @davidborgia2312
    @davidborgia2312 Рік тому

    Straight out of the box, KILLER !
    Take 2, sweet & tight !
    Take 2 would be a great perfect dry mix, that you could
    probably have a blast editing with plug ins.

  • @sdanis
    @sdanis Рік тому +2

    Sounds great!! I should start tuning my 12" lower like you do.

  • @christiansloat
    @christiansloat Рік тому

    Sounds best straight out of the box!

  • @luiszuluaga6575
    @luiszuluaga6575 Місяць тому

    The black universal sounded great with the kit. It had a more complimentary darkness to it and felt full even through the small speakers of my computer. 😃🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @OffShiftProductions
    @OffShiftProductions Рік тому

    I have the previous iteration of the Neusonics and I love them - super versatile kit that records well and is about as good as you can get in the sub $2k price range. Perfect kit for experimentation as you don't feel like you have to be super precious with it to get solid sounds.

  • @aleksamrkela831
    @aleksamrkela831 Рік тому +1

    The kit sounds looooooovely!

  • @g_and_kikos_homestudio
    @g_and_kikos_homestudio Рік тому +1

    My kit is a 9 PC Ludwig SuperClassic from the early 90s I got new. All double braced hardware. only use 1 of my 24" kicks cuz of my studio size. But they sound killer just with Glyn John's mic technique. Can't go wrong with Ludwigs

  • @anaiytv2120
    @anaiytv2120 Рік тому

    This drums sound soo good 😊

  • @franciscopacobarreras9270
    @franciscopacobarreras9270 Рік тому

    Ludwigs are my favorite drums to track. The snares obviously. Everytime a drummer brings a snare to track I ask if they brought a Supraphonic, every time their shares don’t work you just ask them to use a Supraphonic it always does the trick. But the kits themselves are also great, specially their Legacy

  • @malcolmfrancis4543
    @malcolmfrancis4543 Рік тому

    Fresh out da box sounds great. The snare is musical and the kick has a lovely "ploof" sound that I personally love.
    The dampened would be a great disco dance sound. "Woofy smacks".
    Each is its own thing, but I lean fresh,

  • @jhamm8047
    @jhamm8047 Рік тому

    I've got an original Neusonic 20" kick, 12" rack, 14" floor with a 6.5"x14" Supra as one of my studio kits and it's been killer. I left the resonant head on the kick closed with very little muffling inside or on the toms because my other kit is much drier and the Neusonic sounds great almost wide open. But after this I'll have to set up another head to swap in sometimes. Nice to have options!

  • @adee2569
    @adee2569 Рік тому +2

    I prefer the wide open sound.

  • @terrymiller111
    @terrymiller111 Рік тому +1

    Stock, the snare sound reminds me of "D'yer M'ker".

  • @tonyyahasiel8800
    @tonyyahasiel8800 Рік тому +5

    Kit sounds awesome Andrew !!

  • @studio-arrakenn
    @studio-arrakenn Рік тому

    Out of box with the universal snare is my favorite take 😊

  • @MichaelFarinaDrums
    @MichaelFarinaDrums Рік тому

    Wow! This kit sounds great considering it's price point. Love the finish too!

  • @titoramirez5198
    @titoramirez5198 Рік тому

    SOUNDS GNARLY

  • @roberta.blanchette270
    @roberta.blanchette270 Рік тому +1

    ..I like it either way ,But seriously Sound in itself has a groovy vibe specially , music vibes when played with good intent ,I love Drums ,being a Bass player at heart ,Must admit you had me going a bit there on your mic set up ! { SoUnDs GrEaT } PS Gotta Love those Ludwigs ...

  • @AnodyneHipsterInfluencer
    @AnodyneHipsterInfluencer Рік тому +1

    Kit sounds killer. I liked the kit the 2nd time around with the dampened kick but I preferred the black on black brass snare wide open. That said, I can see a bunch of scenarios where the dampened snare would be just right.

  • @steverok67
    @steverok67 10 місяців тому

    These all sound great. Do you have a link to that big fat snare thing ?

  • @Mark_Bayer
    @Mark_Bayer Рік тому

    These are so cool, I like the butterscotch pearl version. I noticed though that the snare and hardware are unfortunately not included and I did see any listing for the matching snare

  • @joeldrummer23
    @joeldrummer23 8 місяців тому

    I love take one

  • @judzweckl27
    @judzweckl27 Рік тому

    Hi andrew! Awesome review man!
    Question.
    Were the audio recordings RAW (No Post Processing/Plugins)?
    Thanks man! blessings

  • @thrillerboyrecords
    @thrillerboyrecords Рік тому

    Both sounds good the gaffer tape is a nice adjustment dampened the sound.

  • @ShadyDavidmusic
    @ShadyDavidmusic Рік тому

    Take one Sounds like rock kit
    Take two Sounds like funk kit
    i like take one more but the sound of the snare of two is sounds great also

  • @F_J_2014
    @F_J_2014 Рік тому

    Great sound man! Are you keeping them?

  • @thetransonicford
    @thetransonicford Рік тому +1

    Great sounding drums! A video on how you tune your drums would be interesting.

    • @AndrewMasters
      @AndrewMasters  Рік тому +1

      lol it might be a lesson in what not to do!

  • @wildamendez
    @wildamendez 9 місяців тому

    I don't know but they both set ups of the drums 1. out of the box and 2. with the hole in the kick and tape, sound absolutely fantastic! BTW: Can you share where you got those black industrial lamps you got there by the stairs? lmao I am about to set up my new home studio and would love to get one of those! Love all the gear you got. Thank you!

  • @laneysommer
    @laneysommer Рік тому +1

    That laugh!

  • @jimleadbetterdrums
    @jimleadbetterdrums Рік тому +1

    Tom tone city on these. Kit sounds super warm and juicy.

  • @TheBenwaugh69
    @TheBenwaugh69 Рік тому

    I stopped cutting holes in the kick . Switched things up with a large diaphragm mic.. at times I’ll Use a mic on the front head next to the beater .. the idea was to capture the true drum sound .:) either way your getting the job done .💪

  • @DSharon3
    @DSharon3 11 місяців тому +1

    My preference was the 1st Take sound. I realize that might not fit every genre, so there's that. There was probably an acceptable middle-ground, though. The Take 2 snare sounded a bit choked, and the floor tom developed an unsavory "whang", too. The T2 kick was lifeless.
    You asked... ;)

  • @athonygraham8353
    @athonygraham8353 Рік тому

    Great video, very interesting. I wish I knew what "the right snare or kit for the song" means practically sspeaking. Is there a set of rules that you go for a certain sound or drum for pop or rock or ballad or fast? On another subject, do you still have and use your Neve 33609?

  • @jenspruner4924
    @jenspruner4924 Рік тому

    Hello Andrew. I would prefer the first version of that kit with the closed bassdrum and the open snare. It sounds more like a Vintage-Style Rock-Drumkit. I love the crack of that snare it is awesome. The second version may fit a little bit better to song with a more "modern" sound ... But that is only my opinion. Best greetings from Germany . By the way ... a few years ago I was lucky enough to have a drummer in my band who owned a completely restored old Ludwig Black Oyster kit . Fantastic Kit !

  • @rhythmista7707
    @rhythmista7707 3 місяці тому

    Wide open all the way.

  • @raymondgarrobo9998
    @raymondgarrobo9998 Рік тому

    To correct you, at that price and on the website you were showing that's a 3 pc kit and does not come with a snare drum.
    Great video keep up the good work!

  • @DougAustin
    @DougAustin Рік тому +1

    You need to teach the kid to yell “Yeet” when he throws stuff down the stairs.

  • @rwascher
    @rwascher Рік тому

    Wow! I really don't think that there is a "better" in this example. Both setups sound quite different from one another and are quite usable depending on what sound you are going for stylistically. Personally, I loved the openness of the snare in the first example but loved the way the kick sounded on the second example. This kit is amazing!

  • @Rhythmic1
    @Rhythmic1 Рік тому

    I have to say I'm more than pleasantly surprised with how great the Neusionics sound. Same with the two snares. I like the kit both ways but I think the toms sound perfect the way you have them with a little bit of muffling. The snares sound a little choked with the sound ring so I'd ditch those and back off the muffling a touch with some other type of tone control. From my rock drummer perspective the bass drum could be a lot more open. As for the resonant bass drum head either way depending on the application.

  • @that-avr-drummer
    @that-avr-drummer Рік тому

    Test 1 toms and snare with test 2 bass drum would be perfection!!

  • @jamesbder5898
    @jamesbder5898 2 місяці тому

    Personally I prefer the 2nd, the one after mod. Fit more my ear. Thank u.

  • @handidrummer
    @handidrummer Рік тому +1

    hhhhhhWIIIIIDDDDDDE open 😤😤😤😤😤 you gotta love it

  • @HR2635
    @HR2635 Рік тому

    sounds good.. especially the snare.. its no WFL III, but for the not so rich drummer its probably a great kit!

  • @bobbymaddalena4203
    @bobbymaddalena4203 Рік тому +1

    The kit sounds beefy for its size. I prefer the 1st take without the muffling. Thanks for putting this together👍

  • @bradplant872
    @bradplant872 Рік тому

    Both are viable sounds, depending on what your end goal is and how it sits in the context of the song.

  • @jacobkincaid123
    @jacobkincaid123 Рік тому

    bought a black beauty can't really get it to sound good. Any tips? Yours sounds great! Also, what heads on the snare?

    • @AndrewMasters
      @AndrewMasters  Рік тому

      I'm not using a black beauty in this video, the metal snare is the universal metal snare. But black beauty snares work amazing for several different tunings. I like the controlled sound heads from remo on them, it's a bit hard to describe tuning processes through a comment but there's some great videos on youtube. Jake reed has a real in depth video.

  • @aj5542
    @aj5542 Рік тому

    You should do a video on how to tune drums

  • @albertorobinson7611
    @albertorobinson7611 Рік тому

    do you mind say than the rim of the shell its around 370-450hz

  • @nplcdrums3746
    @nplcdrums3746 26 днів тому

    This is super random but I saw aneusonic the other day and loved how LIGHT it was. Thinking about getting one for gigging, question: does that wrap on the kit make it significantly heavier?

    • @AndrewMasters
      @AndrewMasters  24 дні тому +1

      It's a very light kit - only owned the wrapped version.

  • @axemanfishing2703
    @axemanfishing2703 Рік тому

    To my ear the first take with snare with classic sounding, such as Zep ish, and the second take with tape etc and muffling was more modern rock and even country rock.

  • @floridapunkarchivist
    @floridapunkarchivist Рік тому

    What's up Andrew...man that :50 to one minute mark of you and your kid.....I'm 40 and don't even want kids....those 10 seconds made me rethink it lol...glad you had such as blast...keep up the great videos bro!

  • @jonathankingsofficial
    @jonathankingsofficial Рік тому +1

    Why not the C12 Warm audio as overheads.?

    • @AndrewMasters
      @AndrewMasters  Рік тому

      That's what is set up one the first take, they got swapped after a month for a different session. I'm sure they'll be back up at some point.

  • @user-yq5od9uj3f
    @user-yq5od9uj3f 3 дні тому

    In your opinion what effect do you think the size of the port has. Your port is really big.
    I've found that a 24" base drum is louder overall than a 22" but the 22 usually has a louder attack/crack. And the attack/crack gets louder with a port cut in.
    What difference do you think the diameter of the port makes? Your port is the biggest I've seen.

  • @jsnpark
    @jsnpark Рік тому

    What are your overhead mics?

  • @thewhitedude11
    @thewhitedude11 Рік тому +2

    I like out the box snare, but the rest of the kit after mods is better. The twang of the snare feels fun. Not sure how it would sound in a mix though. Thank you for inspiration!

  • @giuseppecasa3574
    @giuseppecasa3574 3 місяці тому

    What genres can you play with this drums?

  • @ivanbajovic3476
    @ivanbajovic3476 5 місяців тому

    What's the differences between old and new Neusonic?

  • @johndoe-cb5ck
    @johndoe-cb5ck Рік тому

    Less dampening of the snare but other than that it sounds awesome!

  • @hectorgallegos3518
    @hectorgallegos3518 Рік тому

    Out the box tuned was the best IMO

  • @tonyrobinson3993
    @tonyrobinson3993 Рік тому

    There was a portion that was so out of phase I got seasick

  • @ralphsmith7428
    @ralphsmith7428 7 місяців тому

    the snare imo is over dampened, I used to use a remo cs coated Rev dot on the snare but now I use a Evans HD dry muffles the snare perfect but that's my preference of course. but it's worth a try. awesome sounding kit regardless.

  • @danielortega3647
    @danielortega3647 9 місяців тому

    I'm sold. However, there isn't much selection when it comes to the finishes

  • @austin495
    @austin495 Рік тому

    Wow I honestly didn't think the 20 inch kick could punch like that. I'm in the market for drums and I wanted to see if the NeuSonic would be worth it or if I should shell out the bucks for the classic maple. Thanks :)

    • @jsauce311
      @jsauce311 11 місяців тому

      Man I'm in the same boat. What did you decide? These new wraps made it a slightly harder decision

    • @austin495
      @austin495 11 місяців тому

      @@jsauce311 yo, yea turns out maple is way outta my budget so I’m gonna save up a bit more and probably go with the neusonic. My last solid kit I had was the Ludwig Epic series and I miss that Ludwig feel. Probs going with 22 inch kick just to be safe

    • @jsauce311
      @jsauce311 11 місяців тому

      @@austin495 oh nice! Yeah was trying to track down a used classic maple for cheaper but haven't found the right kit. Think I may just grab a neusonic in that mod config so I can get a 22/12/16 and add a floor tom later