How did the Y-DNA Haplogroup R1b become European(Human Migration)?

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  • Опубліковано 12 лис 2022
  • This video introduces the spread of the Y-DNA haplogroup R1b, one of the main paternal lineages of the current European population.
    Y-DNA Haplogroup R1b
    #humanmigration #ydna #haplogroup #R1b #ancienthistory #ancientstory #migratetouk

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  • @RussellWClough
    @RussellWClough 9 місяців тому +16

    Shoutout to my R1b brothers! R-L20 (Alpine Italo-Celtic) here!

    • @nukekidontheblock8349
      @nukekidontheblock8349 4 місяці тому

      Italic race here, wish the Germanic never wiped you off chasing till the Britain my brother 😢 Italic and a Celtic are the oldest and pure IndoEuropean group that settled in Europe, Indo Iranian the other but not white , Germanic came after us (already mixed) and Germanic were wiped off aswell by all the hoardes of Mongolians Turks African Arabs and blablabla, Viking blonde my azz, but here in Italy we’re still the same people of 4000 years ago, never mixed with anyone Venetian Latin and Sicilians still here since the 2000 ac

    • @crypticreality8484
      @crypticreality8484 2 місяці тому

      I am R1b U152 but L2 and Z56 negative.
      I may be Z36 or Z192.

  • @lollolowski8956
    @lollolowski8956 Рік тому +6

    Very detailed and informative compilation. Thanks

    • @geonomad1
      @geonomad1  Рік тому +4

      Thank you for your positive comments.

  • @patricklogan6089
    @patricklogan6089 7 місяців тому +1

    Great material and production quality. Well done.

  • @user-bj5uo2vd3j
    @user-bj5uo2vd3j Рік тому +8

    기다렸던 영상 잘 봤습니다.

  • @user-qz3my1fn8b
    @user-qz3my1fn8b 5 місяців тому +11

    It's a very interesting video
    I am Japanese and belong to haplogroup O1b2.
    Haplogroup O, which is common among us Asians, split into two lineages, O1 and O2, about 30,000 years ago.
    Among them, O1 was divided into O1a and O1b.
    The O1 people lived mainly from southern China to Southeast Asia, but it seems that the group of O1b people who moved north to the Korean Peninsula and the Japanese archipelago became O1b2.

    • @Jamrock151
      @Jamrock151 2 місяці тому +4

      Caucasians descended from East Eurasians. Tianyuan man K2b is ancestral to European haplogroup R1a. All Caucasians are paternally east asians

    • @extraditori6604
      @extraditori6604 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@Jamrock151Do you understand what East Eurasian means? It's not just East Asians (typically Chinese or Japanese as you probably think). North East Asians, South East Asians, South Asians (Ancestral Indians), Austronesian are all from this lineage, which is originally from West Eurasian hub somewhere in the Iranian plateau after Out-of-Africa event in IUP.
      Paternal haplogroup of K2a is IJK, I nad J. are both West Eurasian. K is just more widespread and is paternal to many lineages, not only East Asians. At the end, if you go to much back, we all descend from African haplogroup A.

  • @-andreiDNA
    @-andreiDNA 6 місяців тому +16

    R1b has been European since at least the Mesolithic. Earliest samples with R1b are eastern hunter gatherers from Samara in Russia.

    • @Jamrock151
      @Jamrock151 Місяць тому +3

      R1b is descended from Tianyuan man K2b China. R clade mutated from P which was derived in Southeast asia. Caucasian males are paternally mongoloid.

    • @dl3472
      @dl3472 26 днів тому

      Lies

    • @verenatuna9010
      @verenatuna9010 17 днів тому +1

      @@Jamrock151 Caucasian males are only partially from the mongoloid phenotype.
      Not the ones with haplogroups F, G, H, I, J.

  • @anibeto7
    @anibeto7 Рік тому +45

    It is insanely complicated yet very intuitive. In Vedic Sanskrit, the goddess of the river is called Danu which also means liquid. These rivers Danube, Don are pretty similar in names.

    • @anibeto7
      @anibeto7 Рік тому +12

      @@dab0331 The people who migrated out of Ukraine were not Aryans, they were Indo Europeans. In Sanskrit, Arya means a noble man. Aryans are specifically the eastern sub branch of the Indo-Europeans who came to India, then migrated westward to Mesopotamia, Arabia and northern Africa. The rulers of Mesopotamia worshiped Asur, the kings were also called Asurbanipal.. etc. There is a story in the Vedas where it states that the Devas fought with the Asuras and the Asuras fled westward. Even the Mittani empire is a Vedic empire. These people have light brown skin and black hair. In India, Indo-Europeans constitute the upper caste which is 20% of India's population though almost everybody now is a mixture of various ancestry. The same stories were taken by the other sub group of people towards the west i.e. Europe. This is the reason Dyus pita in Vedas is the same person as Zeus Pater for the Greeks and later became Ju-Piter during the Roman times. Pita-> Pitr->Pater->Father, Duar->Door,Mata->Mother, Vrata->Vater->Brother etc...
      The gods, the languages, the religion, culture were the same but later they deviated. These people were Pagans. Europe and the Middle East have now been converted into Abrahamic philosophies, India is the only place where that ancient culture is still intact through culture and religion.
      Hitler was wrong in many ways, Aryans are the eastern sub branch of the Indo Europeans, Christianity may have Indo-European elements but it is not the actual religion of Indo-Europeans. He thought mixed people have corrupted their heritage, but modern science shows R1a and R1b are patrilineal genes determining your sex and not your phenotype. I have R1a but my skin colour is brown. There are people in India who are R1a and are dark brown as well. Hitler also thought that the Aryans were a superior race and that is not correct, that is where racism starts.
      Asiatic eyes are not the result of R1a, R1a is a sex gene and not an autosomal gene. East Asians like Chinese, Mongolians, Japanese etc have different ancestry than R1a.

    • @anibeto7
      @anibeto7 Рік тому +4

      @@dab0331 Swastika is a religious symbol in India, what Hitler did with it is absolutely unacceptable. However the symbol was not exactly like the actual Swastika and was called Hakencrus.

    • @dab0331
      @dab0331 Рік тому +5

      @@anibeto7 I understand.
      I'm just saying that the symbol's homeland isn't India, it's Ukraine (as far as archeology knows anyway).
      Maybe that'll be proved wrong in the future

    • @dab0331
      @dab0331 Рік тому

      @@anibeto7 phenotypes are not "guaranteed" by your haplogroup BUT they do mean a certain phenotype is mathematically more likely to show in that ethnic/racial group. Why? Because phenotypes ARE passed down by fathers, and the more a people have a common ancestral father, the more likely they're to have that ancestral phenotype. Because phenotypes are passed down by the males who survive and KILL or outbreed all their competitors. AND the reason male Y haplogroups are more important than female haplogroups is because conquests and bloodlines follow the male bloodline. The women went where the men took them, and the men who survived and killed their enemies took their women and bred out their bloodline, and thus, their phenotypes.
      There's a reason that Western Europeans look particularly different from eastern Europeans.
      R1b lives in its "purist" form in Spain and Ireland. And although we may think that southern Europeans are more genetically similar, the split is actuall more western and eastern rather than southern and northern. You'll have dark Irish people who look exactly like Spaniards rather than Russian, Polish, Ukrainian; as well as Spaniards who look much more British rather than southern Greek. The reason there's the north and south divide is because southern Europeans have more E1b1b North African genes and LACK haplogroup l1 which is the Northern European gene and "purist" in Sweden.
      R1a is so throughly spread out that although it's common even in India, it lives in its "purist" form in Poland. The only difference is that Poles are mixed with I1 Scandinavians, while Indian R1a's are mixed with the darker and more "indigenous" H haplogroup Dravidians of the south.
      You also have to remember that since H is a much older bloodline it's going to contain much more non-recessive phenotypes such as darker skin, brown eyes, and curly hair/wavy hair which will OVERRIDE the later developed recessive phenotypes associated with R1a.

    • @anibeto7
      @anibeto7 Рік тому +5

      @@dab0331 I am very much sure you do not know the difference between phenotype and genotype. Phenotype is not passed down only from father but also mother. 22 pair of autosomes are formed from 22 paternal autosomes and 22 maternal autosomes. 1 pair of sex chromosome is formed from the Y chromosome of father and X chromosome from mother. The phenotype of father or mother is passed down half every generation.

  • @lilavcan6106
    @lilavcan6106 Рік тому +71

    Im kurdish from Iraq and my family has R1b :)

    • @ryankellypa
      @ryankellypa Рік тому +5

      On Gedmatch I'm west Scottish 87 and 13 iran. I'm American family came from British isles.

    • @ertangaf
      @ertangaf Рік тому +6

      Kurdish have G2 its a persian gaplo..

    • @serkankinden5150
      @serkankinden5150 11 місяців тому +5

      You may be Yürü-k, Tur-uk-men of Iraq originated from Turkmenstan. North Iraq was kurdish in history so your family may have converted to kurdish languages after lots of marriages.

    • @Based556
      @Based556 11 місяців тому +7

      There are plenty of blonde blue eyed kurdish children in the mountains, Kurds are r1b - Cimmerians

    • @ertangaf
      @ertangaf 11 місяців тому +4

      @@Based556it doesn't mean anything since they are mixed with Greeks and other peoples. the real haplogroup of the Kurds is G2

  • @akramkarim3780
    @akramkarim3780 Рік тому +95

    R1a took the short route from Kazakh steppe to Pontic steppe and R1b took the long route , and in the end after 10000 years the two brothers meet again

    • @eltecnico9541
      @eltecnico9541 Рік тому +29

      And then in the European colonization in America they found their cousin Q3

    • @akramkarim3780
      @akramkarim3780 Рік тому +15

      @@eltecnico9541 yeah , native americans are far cousins of europeans

    • @elliottbrown1329
      @elliottbrown1329 Рік тому +17

      @@akramkarim3780 We are all cousins.

    • @Sporkonafork1
      @Sporkonafork1 Рік тому +5

      @@akramkarim3780 and here I am as all of them

    • @tutonguni529
      @tutonguni529 Рік тому +3

      I'm glad that you admit it because you've just solved a problem that I've tried to solve for many yrs 😅

  • @Secular_Iran_GE
    @Secular_Iran_GE 10 місяців тому +6

    wow Interesting R1b is so common In the western part of Iran ,as an Iranian thats interesting and i would not expect that

  • @bujuminodstrom2076
    @bujuminodstrom2076 5 місяців тому +1

    brilliant channel. thank you for this

  • @tolga6846
    @tolga6846 Рік тому +1

    are there any sources of ancient dna samples of these geographies on internet ? there was a website that i could see the ancient dna samples by categories. but i dont remember :/ can you give some sources please ?

    • @robertolang9684
      @robertolang9684 Рік тому +1

      you can join anthogenica, lot of specialists there that can answer your more hard questions

  • @kennethreilly1693
    @kennethreilly1693 Рік тому +15

    A lot of this is accurate but the timeframes don't line up to DNA evidence discovered in W Europe around the Iberian Peninsula and ancient Ireland. I'm an R1b - my last name is Reilly (Óraghallagh) and I am of Western European and Canadian Inuit descent. I have found El Rahali's in Morocco and Oraghalia's in W Africa. I have been studying Euskara (Basque) for about three years and I'm currently enrolled in Euskara III at the Basque Museum in Boise. Euskara is known to be thousands of years old, with text discovered written in Paleohispanic that can easily be read by anyone who speaks the language (Irulegiko Esku), because it hasn't changed much over 2000 years.
    Basques have been in W Europe for thousands of years and yes we are of Asian descent, with Basque and Tibetan sharing ergative-absolutive alignment in addition to words like itxaso / gyatso (ocean) and Basque sharing many other words with Asian languages. It's not a coincidence that Basque shares ergative-alignment (statistical impossibility itself) with one Asian language and words such as "eurixe" nearly matching "yǔshuǐ" from Chinese and "txori bakarrik" with "tori bakari" (only / lonely / just (a) bird) with Japanese. The highest proportion of R1b M-269 (ancestors of modern Western Europeans) is found within Basque Country, Catalonia, Wales, and Ireland. The Northern Irish know very well their own connection to the Basques, and the stereotypical dark blue metallic eyes commonly found in R1b (even in W Africa) were found in a caveman in what is now Asturia, Spain from 5,000 BC.
    So, while the migration paths may be correct to a degree, the idea that my tan, dark-haired, dark-blue eyed ancestors (whom I share with many Basques, Irish, Spanish, etc) arrived in 1800 BC is proven false. Yes, perhaps another branch or waves of migrations did arrive also over time, but the bones of our ancestors have been found in Iberia from as far back as 7,000 years ago.
    Sources:
    * Blue-Eyed Iberian Ancestors: www.sciencenews.org/article/stone-age-spaniard-had-blue-eyes-dark-skin
    * R1b M269 (W Europeans): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_R-M269
    * Ergative Languages: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergative%E2%80%93absolutive_alignment

    • @geonomad1
      @geonomad1  Рік тому +4

      Thank you for your information.

    • @robertolang9684
      @robertolang9684 Рік тому

      basques are sardinians nothing else , women north afrikaners , mens just the same other iberos i say iberos hebreos , egyptian

    • @patrickfitzgerald2052
      @patrickfitzgerald2052 Рік тому +5

      @@robertolang9684 Basque people aren't African.

    • @robertolang9684
      @robertolang9684 Рік тому

      @@patrickfitzgerald2052 they are not afrikans originally they are Algerian Tunisian , lybians north afrika , at least thy-er share they blood samples type more than any other people , just look at the amurikaka genetic pub media journal

    • @patrickfitzgerald2052
      @patrickfitzgerald2052 Рік тому

      @@robertolang9684 I hate golliwogs.

  • @bvoz17
    @bvoz17 Рік тому +2

    Awesome video, super informative. Would love to know more about L51, my haplogroup!

  • @ryanciantar
    @ryanciantar 9 місяців тому +6

    I am a rare subclade of r1b, which is v88, I have some DNA in the Levant, Caucasus region, and into NE Europe. My paternal ancestry is from Malta. My ancient ancestry is high in Celtic/Gothic/Scythian/Frankish groups.

    • @secondexodus9105
      @secondexodus9105 4 місяці тому

      Be proud you sons of Japheth for he is the father of the Gentiles

  • @pendragonU
    @pendragonU Рік тому +8

    Thank you anyways and kudos for such well made map visuals with rich details and coloring, keeping it minimal but introducing vitals of economic or tech developments and geographic or biological changes on their groups for their livelihoods and possible causes to migrate past non-sedentary hunter-gathering or strictly herding.
    One complaint,
    it is the unbearable rapid fire speed of the robo-speaker recorded, to expect keeping following with any coherent train of thought _without causing distraction and disengaging on the trail, specially when jangling 3 or more haplogroups numerical tags in same sentence or two. And catch up without getting breath with next delivery row of numbers rapid download. What was going there, some technical speeding crunching speech like autistic verbal sequences? Imitating Auction MC dealers, gambling bet makers, Wall Street callers or really needed to go to the bathroom as fast as possible?

    • @geonomad1
      @geonomad1  Рік тому +1

      Thank you for your advice. We will try to improve the following video according to your advice.

    • @vgrof2315
      @vgrof2315 Рік тому +1

      I agree, the narration is way too rapid and sounds like it must be a computer generated voice. Oddly it doesn't seem to be an objectionable British accent as so many of these UA-cam videos present. Regardless, it's hard to follow and I just gave up on it after a few minutes.

    • @cathjj840
      @cathjj840 5 місяців тому +1

      Also, the inconsistant and often erroneous ways of enunciating the number of years was confusing.

  • @TheWisdomOfTheAges_PsyM_Revd
    @TheWisdomOfTheAges_PsyM_Revd 11 місяців тому +20

    1:36 the common ancestor of R1a-M420 and R1b-M343 was an Ancient North Eurasian who lived near Lake Baikal in present-day Russia. Examination of the 24 000 year old remains of Mal'ta in the lower Angara River near Lake Baikal confirmed the Y-DNA Haplogroup R.
    2:44 and it is thought that R1-M173, a direct common ancestor of R1a and R1b, formed somewhere north of the Kazakh steppes between 28,200=22,800 years ago.
    8:32 The third group is the R1b-P297 branch, was formed around 13600 BCE, and TMRCA is 12,300 BCE. This branch spread and became the direct ancestor of the people with R1b who live in Europe and Central Asia today.
    13:00 M269 is closely related to the spread of ancient Indo-European languages

    • @plopdoo339
      @plopdoo339 8 місяців тому

      The ginger headed Chinese white people in the Tarim basin must be related to these ancestor groups surely?

    • @nurakass3455
      @nurakass3455 2 місяці тому

      In modern Kazakh 80% are mongols they genocided all R haplogroups remaining are kyrgyz

  • @philipjose8092
    @philipjose8092 Рік тому +2

    Great effort.🎉

  • @skeptic781
    @skeptic781 Рік тому +8

    Thank you very much for this video, I've been looking forward to it. Proud to be R-L21.

  • @jacquespictet5363
    @jacquespictet5363 Рік тому +10

    Great videos. Thank you. My wish list contains a video that would put together R1a and R1b from the division to the corded ware. IMHO, it would help understand their relationships and what happened during CWC. Another wish would be a zoom on modern Germany. I am under the impression that there was at some stage a divide with a Germanic North and a Celtic South, mixed with local groups.

  • @winderwonder
    @winderwonder Рік тому +12

    My jaw dropped when they said the origin is Lake Baikal. I’m really drawn to that place.

    • @eltecnico9541
      @eltecnico9541 Рік тому +5

      The Ancient Siberians who gave rise to the R no longer live there

    • @winderwonder
      @winderwonder Рік тому +1

      @@eltecnico9541 And?

    • @oldnorth2666
      @oldnorth2666 Рік тому

      @@winderwonder Are you R1b?

    • @anomalianomali5080
      @anomalianomali5080 Рік тому +4

      @@eltecnico9541 many native Siberian ethnic groups around Baikal-siberia who still have high ANE DNA. like kets who have 62% of ANE DNA, they have haplogroup Q, relatives of haplogroup R, but their physical appereance are far similar to Chinese than any European especially southern Europeans

    • @eltecnico9541
      @eltecnico9541 Рік тому +1

      @@anomalianomali5080 Ket don't look like Chinese they look different, some long-nosed even have like a darker skin tone. Genetically and phenotypically they are more similar to some indigenous peoples of South America

  • @teutates604
    @teutates604 Рік тому +4

    Very interesting video. Would it be possible to do the same for autosomal DNA ? (I see that you add the admixture on some steps of the Y-chromosome migration but is it possible to make the autosomal DNA migrations map ?)

    • @rotagbhd
      @rotagbhd Рік тому +1

      Not possible.

    • @teutates604
      @teutates604 Рік тому +1

      @@rotagbhd the admixture that are already appear in the video seems like a good start. Why wouldn't it be possible ?

    • @eddypc007
      @eddypc007 Рік тому +1

      @@teutates604 Because of recombination. You can have haplogroups for the Y chromosome and mtDNA because they don't recombine, meaning you get 100% of your father's Y chromosome and 100% of your mother's mtDNA.

    • @ver_idem
      @ver_idem 10 місяців тому

      @@eddypc007 For that periode ist was a very fast migration just 2-3 generations stable living depending on the resources and they kept moving and of course and the admixing whith other human groups.

  • @andymullins84
    @andymullins84 Рік тому +7

    The 🦣 mammoth in the room is the introduction of ancient dna to the science of genetic anthropology

    • @geonomad1
      @geonomad1  Рік тому +1

      The science of genetics helps us make more rational assumptions about archaeological and historical interpretations.

  • @kennymacdonald5313
    @kennymacdonald5313 Рік тому +9

    Isn't the Corded Ware culture now thought to be the vector for the spread of the lion's share of IE languages, including Celtic, Italic, Germanic and Balto-Slavic?

    • @TrappedInFloor
      @TrappedInFloor Рік тому +5

      Technically Bell Beakers (who were just a branch and cultural evolution of Corded Ware people) are the source Celtic, Italic, and Germanic. Actually, Germanic's origin is murkier - it's common to attribute it to the Battle Axe Culture, which is a northern variant with the Corded Ware horizon, but nordic people, ancient and modern, can't be accurately modeled genetically without Bell Beaker as the most significant fraction of their ancestry and also possess significant amounts of r1b lineages that originate in Bell Beaker, so it's an open question whether Germanic languages are rooted in the Battle Axe people or Beaker folk.

    • @robertolang9684
      @robertolang9684 Рік тому

      ya how come the indo european use the phoenician script then ? by borrowing ?ha ha ha ha

  • @Noobfantasy
    @Noobfantasy 6 місяців тому +1

    Amazing content.

  • @jansundvall2082
    @jansundvall2082 Рік тому +2

    I appreciate your maps, even the northern extension of the Nordic Bronze Age is shown.

  • @TheGreatCatsby-pd2tt
    @TheGreatCatsby-pd2tt Рік тому +3

    Thanks, it was informative.

  • @rasaanshakur9491
    @rasaanshakur9491 7 місяців тому +3

    “just remember this every race comes from the black”

  • @Me2Lancer
    @Me2Lancer 9 місяців тому +2

    This is very close to home. My haplogroup is R1b-U106.

  • @munzurharck368
    @munzurharck368 2 місяці тому +2

    What about R1b1a1b1b? It didn't show them.

  • @latakicsi2183
    @latakicsi2183 Рік тому +4

    As a hungarian I have 16% of irish-english dnas and it is very common here, but that are celtics dnas, dont forget celts moved
    from central-eu and balkan to west, so put it right irish,english,scotish and welsh has some hungarian, austrian serb and rumanian genes,
    this is a correct timeline, but westerner potheads sitting a horse upsidedown again.

    • @cathjj840
      @cathjj840 5 місяців тому

      I like the way you talk to put things right. lol

  • @bagratcolchian3434
    @bagratcolchian3434 Рік тому +4

    This is a very educative video you earned a sub and a like

    • @geonomad1
      @geonomad1  Рік тому +2

      Thank you for your positive comments.

  • @milicastanar9654
    @milicastanar9654 Рік тому +6

    What about spreading of I1 and I2 haplogroups?

    • @user-yt3xd2jl6d
      @user-yt3xd2jl6d Рік тому +4

      There is already a video dedicated to I, the I belonged to a completely different group of Humans from the R, it arises somewhere in the Southeast of Europe and separates from the IJ 27500 years ago, the frequent J in the Middle East and the Arabian peninsula is the sister lineage of I

    • @abdelkaderbenchamakh8942
      @abdelkaderbenchamakh8942 Рік тому

      ​@@user-yt3xd2jl6d tu es d'où ?

    • @crypticreality8484
      @crypticreality8484 2 місяці тому

      Although later in the Paleolithic, I2 and R1B moved together

    • @fighterpilot4059
      @fighterpilot4059 23 дні тому

      @@crypticreality8484 Yep, they were dnieper-donets Cro-Magnons with zero CHG in them.

  • @user-xi5ww9ju8f
    @user-xi5ww9ju8f 8 місяців тому

    Hi, I'm a kurd from Turkey but have L-23. Where can find more information about this?

    • @user-yt3xd2jl6d
      @user-yt3xd2jl6d 7 місяців тому +2

      Haplogrup L originated in the Irani plateau, we find it more frequently in South Asian countries, Pakistan and western India.

    • @KurdeQonya
      @KurdeQonya 3 місяці тому

      ​@@user-yt3xd2jl6dhes talking about R1b-L23

    • @Selerikler
      @Selerikler Місяць тому

      L haplogroup Yafes soyundan Sümer.

    • @touijer
      @touijer 17 днів тому +1

      That's not the deepest clade but it's most likely Yamnaya haplogroup

    • @Communard84
      @Communard84 3 дні тому

      L-23 is not enough. You need to know the subclade.

  • @icelinx
    @icelinx Рік тому

    I'm confused at the end by the years: For example, for L23 is written (6400 - 5100) the --> 2500 BCE --> L11 (5500 - 4800) ... how can I understand that? 🤔

    • @geonomad1
      @geonomad1  Рік тому +2

      (6400 - 5100) 6400 bp is formed year, 5100 bp means time to the most common ancestor. 5100 bp is the same as 3100 BCE.

  • @richern2717
    @richern2717 Рік тому +11

    Looks like something straight from Eupedia. Like I said before Ancient DNA Samples is essential to know who were where when. Unfortunately the earlier studies mostly focused on where some Haplogroups are found today which can be very misleading....And Yes Villabruna had some/very little ANE ancestry but it is there and a clear indication from where the R1b Male line came. The maternal line U5b is clearly the main source of WHG in Villabruna....the most likely route I think was from Poland/Ukraine through the Czech Republic southwards into Italy and the Balkans...

    • @ashlyirvyn2917
      @ashlyirvyn2917 Рік тому +1

      Check Balkan it has very small amount of R1b. Most R1b settled on Atlantic Coast. How they crossed and stepped on R1a to reach Atlantic Coast. How they get there in such big number? From West Europe position the turned to Central Europe. They killed all their a ers or original Mesolithic and Neolithic Europeans of I2a and Neolithic Farmers G2a the builders of Stonhange and Megalithic cultures. R1b then turned to Central Europe and rich Balkan and devastated Vincha, Lepenski Vi, Dobrotin Starchevo Cultures. These Mesolithic Europeans ran from Danube River and another 6 rivers in Central rivers and find shelters in Dinaric and Karpathic Mountains Chains.
      Some Genologists explained that R1b
      reached Europe dropping from South Siberia Balkajik sea or lakes through Caucasusb and Sina,i North Africa, and get into and occupied West Euror and Atlantic Coast.

    • @richern2717
      @richern2717 Рік тому +1

      @@ashlyirvyn2917 I'm talking about the Villabruna Sample with R1b Specifically. 14 000 years ago and long before the Neolithic, Chalcolithic and Bronze Age.

    • @ashlyirvyn2917
      @ashlyirvyn2917 Рік тому +1

      @@richern2717
      Do you mean where R1b oruginate South Siberia or close to Caucasus?

    • @nathanaelpereira5207
      @nathanaelpereira5207 Рік тому +2

      The eupedia is a good iniative, but it cannot be taken serious, its amateurish.

    • @XY-jw6hu
      @XY-jw6hu Рік тому

      @@ashlyirvyn2917 I agree. I think route was from middle east , anatolia to Europe. Maybe with less number, migrated to europe later. It also explains how r1b ended up in east africa.

  • @mauropasquini5310
    @mauropasquini5310 Рік тому +4

    I think, it's missing a mention about the corded-ware culture. That's, where probably, the haplogroup M269 developed, and most likely, independently from L11/L51...!!!???
    Overall, very well done video

    • @Cattleclysmic
      @Cattleclysmic 11 місяців тому +1

      Early Corded Ware were R1b rich group were closely related to Yamnaya but didn't directly descend from Yamnaya, they went North and assimilated forest steppe EHGs, over time Corded Ware became supplanted by newly assimilated R1a peoples and turned into R1a group, they pushed west and formed Balto-Slavic, and then they pushed east and formed Indo-Iranian languages
      So basically, Early CWC: R1b
      Late CWC: R1a
      Bell Beaker culture that formed Celtic, Italic and Germanic branches directly descend from R1b rich early CWC

  • @danchokonstantinov6735
    @danchokonstantinov6735 Рік тому +1

    What is the methodology used to establish those hundreds of thousands of years ?

  • @liamprins7668
    @liamprins7668 5 місяців тому +2

    Haplogroup R2a originates from which population? And when was it created?

  • @human8454
    @human8454 Рік тому +6

    Iam R2a from India 🇮🇳

    • @geonomad1
      @geonomad1  Рік тому +1

      👍👍👍👍👍😊

  • @gunarsmiezis9321
    @gunarsmiezis9321 Рік тому +4

    Showing modern borders speaking of times so long ago is actually harmful.

  • @anthonywalsh2164
    @anthonywalsh2164 Рік тому

    Great work. I’m curious about the less common lines like L-1335. Thanks

    • @geonomad1
      @geonomad1  Рік тому +2

      L1335 belongs to the branch of R-L21, and the time to the most common ancestor is 1270 BCE.

  • @Karabarsz
    @Karabarsz Місяць тому

    Made a test, it gave me R-CTS1843 (/Z2109) from R-M269. Can you help me understand this?

  • @Anonymouse166
    @Anonymouse166 10 місяців тому +6

    I’m Palestinian with RM269, now it makes sense ancestors are natural to the Fertile Crescent and not necessarily a Western European migration.

    • @user-um5bt1hi3s
      @user-um5bt1hi3s 7 місяців тому

      Palestine is a lie land its Israel

    • @KurdeQonya
      @KurdeQonya 3 місяці тому +2

      You must have kurdish ancestors since salahaddin ayyubi and the kurdish tribes came to jerusalem...

    • @Anonymouse166
      @Anonymouse166 3 місяці тому

      @@KurdeQonya My DNA showed 53 percent Levantine and 37 Anatolian. I have no knowledge of any foreign ancestry but like you said the most logical connection would be hundreds of years old Kurdish roots. Thanks for your input 🤍

    • @KurdeQonya
      @KurdeQonya 3 місяці тому +1

      @@Anonymouse166 im also kurdish RM269 from Rashi or Rashwani Tribe…. My Tribe iş relaxed to ayyubids also and fought in quds and also there are members in Palästina egypt Saudi Arabia Jordan with surname al kurdi or ar-rashwani…. i think your rm269 iş from our Tribes but could also be from time of Amorites which iş my subtribe of rashwani called Omari/Amari in kurdish… but that would be at least 3-4 thousand years ago… cause they went until egypt and also Akhenaton tutanchamoon are the occupiers of egypt from Omari Tribe with officially RM269 Haplogroup… only those options amorites or ayyubids…Both kurdish origin

    • @Anonymouse166
      @Anonymouse166 3 місяці тому

      @@KurdeQonya interesting. Based on my family name, Saif, there is one guess. A Kurdish clan I think called seefa from around Kahramanmaraş. They have a strong history about 500 years ago in Lebanon and Palestine. But I have no way to know their Y DNA, but it can be a much older migration. I will investigate the names you mentioned:)

  • @AlexVembar
    @AlexVembar 8 місяців тому +4

    Sanskrit is not an old language - the languages that were actually old in North Indian subcontinent was Prakrit and Pali languages. There is a huge amount of confusion about Prakrit languages. There are 12 major North Indian languages 1, Apabhraṃśa (Prakrit); 2. Ardhamagadhi(Prakrit); 3. Dramili (oldest Prakrit); 4. Elu; 5. Gandhari; 6. Kamarupi; 7. Magadhi; 8. Maharashtri; 9. Paishachi; 10. Pali (also mentioned as Prakrit by some kingdoms); 11. Shauraseni; 12. Khasa. But each language is different and a few are referred as Prakrit language at different times especially the Dramili is the language used in the Ashoka edicts as Prakrit language which is the oldest written record for Pali and Prakrit. Ancient India had used Pali and Prakrit languages in Jainism and Buddhism literatures. Sanskrit is a new language that was created by refining, merging and choosing grammar and verbiage of all these 12 major languages- that’s why there is no record of written Sanskrit in ancient monuments of Jainism and Buddhism in Pali literature which were the oldest religions of Ancient India. Hence the claim to Sanskrits to be old is not proven and even Rig Veda is first written down in 14th century AD and all claims are only verbal and they wrongly point to the written literature records of Prakrit or Pali languages as Sanskrit. Hindi is formed much later by choosing the largest spoken dialect of Prakrit in the present day Uttar Pradesh. So it very clear that anything written in Sanskrit is newly written literature after Sanskrit was formed.

  • @b.h.6250
    @b.h.6250 Рік тому +2

    Are modern Albanians descendant from that L23 that moved to the Balkans 6000 ya, or did we (R1b-L23 here) come later? I don't know my specific subclade.

    • @edboss36
      @edboss36 Рік тому +2

      I’m a Zaza from Turkey, we’re descended from Iran in the past and I’m L-23. Idk how tho

    • @starfieldo
      @starfieldo Рік тому

      no. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10064553/ you should check this study. modern Albanian language emerged from steppe migrants (~5000-4500 years ago), from the Yamnaya expansion as part of the southern arc. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10064553/bin/nihms-1873728-f0001.jpg

    • @shesam5019
      @shesam5019 2 місяці тому +1

      @@edboss36I am from Gilan region in Iran and I am R-L23🤝🤝Long live the Deylami brotherhood

  • @bantugirlz
    @bantugirlz 11 місяців тому +5

    I am Afro * American Bantu from the U.S. and my family is R1b. My maternal is R-H5h

    • @KurdeQonya
      @KurdeQonya 3 місяці тому +2

      Is it R1b-V88? Cause it has an high percentage among the chadic people in africa and yes bantu tribes are not far away from them but bantu tribes are mostly E1b… so that means we are from one father … my black brother hehe dont be worry im not white im brown from middle east…

    • @bantugirlz
      @bantugirlz 3 місяці тому

      @@KurdeQonya My dad is R1b R-S675, not the one from Chad😎

    • @KurdeQonya
      @KurdeQonya 3 місяці тому +2

      @@bantugirlz hmm interesting... that means your father is mixed afro and european?

    • @bantugirlz
      @bantugirlz 3 місяці тому +2

      @@KurdeQonya Pima Indian and Scotland Sub*Saharan Africa. Yes!

    • @KurdeQonya
      @KurdeQonya 3 місяці тому

      @@bantugirlz what the f... hes not even afro how do you call yourself bantugirl hehehe

  • @summerseverson1267
    @summerseverson1267 Рік тому

    Thank you 🙏 ❤

  • @armanto8271
    @armanto8271 11 місяців тому +7

    Damn it feels good to be R1b 🥃😌

    • @Cyrusthegreat2928
      @Cyrusthegreat2928 11 місяців тому +3

      I am Zaza and my haplogroup R1b-L23

    • @armanto8271
      @armanto8271 11 місяців тому +1

      @@Cyrusthegreat2928 hi cousin 👋🏻

    • @Cyrusthegreat2928
      @Cyrusthegreat2928 11 місяців тому +2

      @@armanto8271 Hi

    • @skeptic781
      @skeptic781 10 місяців тому +1

      Hell yeah brother 😎

    • @armanto8271
      @armanto8271 10 місяців тому +1

      @@skeptic781 🦾😉where you from brother ?

  • @fuerstinhun98
    @fuerstinhun98 5 місяців тому +5

    You have followed the Israelites perfectly from Egypt at the time of the Exodus to where they are located today. There were small tribes that left Egypt before the Exodus and settled in Nigeria. I've been tracing the Israelite tribes from Egypt to Canaan to the fall of the two kingdoms to the diaspora for years now, and you have traced their movements perfectly according to my findings.

    • @joemama4473
      @joemama4473 5 місяців тому +3

      Native isreal is R1b and R1a not J , but J is related to R1a, Arabs and Europeans both derived from cuascus, although Arabs are race mixed with Black, exspecially yemen.

    • @fuerstinhun98
      @fuerstinhun98 5 місяців тому +1

      @@joemama4473 Thank you very much! That means that I'm 100% Israelite, despite the fact that I've always thought I was 100% German. The reality is, and I've proven this through genealogy/family history, is that virtually all Europeans are predominantly of Israelite origin.
      The same is true about the American Indians ~ they are NOT DESCENDED from the Europeans ~ they have common ancestors among the tribes of Israel ~ there's a vast amount of difference.
      I would be curious what the DNA of Asians is, because I believe they are largely of Israelite origin also, and I know most blacks also have a lot of Israelite blood in them.
      Race has nothing to do with skin color ~ that's a Darwinian theory, who was a satanist, and has been completely debunked ~ except in a few scientific fields of study. What can I say ~ some are a little slower.

    • @adityabhardwaj875
      @adityabhardwaj875 4 місяці тому

      @@fuerstinhun98 are you fr my guy

    • @fuerstinhun98
      @fuerstinhun98 4 місяці тому

      @@adityabhardwaj875 No.

    • @karogaloyan750
      @karogaloyan750 3 місяці тому

      @@joemama4473 R1b and R1a has nothing in common with Israel

  • @VictoriouslyCrowned
    @VictoriouslyCrowned Рік тому

    Very cool.

  • @richern2717
    @richern2717 Рік тому

    Some Late Paleolithic samples from the Kammenaya Balka area I think will clear up the Confusion about the Route R1bs Ancestors took into Europe.

  • @kenanhasan9784
    @kenanhasan9784 Рік тому +3

    👍👍👍

  • @ThomasDohertyJD
    @ThomasDohertyJD Рік тому +4

    Packed with interesting information, good map graphics, unfortunately poorly narrated by rapid robo voice without natural pauses.
    Tip: natural speakers do not say "One three three zero zero BCE" they say "thirteen thousand three hundred BCE"

  • @2008topshelf
    @2008topshelf Рік тому

    facinating science

  • @Secular_Iran_GE
    @Secular_Iran_GE 2 місяці тому +1

    We have Lurs- one of the true Iranian tribes which hold 80-90 % R1b

  • @janeausten6584
    @janeausten6584 Рік тому +25

    After the end of the glaciation, part of the people with the "male" haplogroup R1b gradually spread from the area around the Altai Mountains westward to the middle Volga, which they reached about 13 thousand years ago. We don't yet know which people they encountered on the way there. According to the information that people with "male" haplogroup C lived on the Russian Plain about 36,000 years ago, for now we have to consider the possibility that they also encountered them and that people with "male" haplogroup C may have retreated to the east before them. to the territory of present-day Mongolia. Or, when the meteorite fell, which created Lake Ladoga about 40,000 years ago (Jurkovec 2012), people with "male" haplogroup C mostly died out and then people with "male" haplogroup I spread to the Russian Plain. This question remains open. for further research.
    So there is a possibility that people with the "male" haplogroup R1b encountered people with haplogroup I. How they behaved towards them is not yet known. The connection of the data given by Zohary and Hopf (2004) with those given by Kljosov (2011a,h) shows that the hunter-gatherer people with the "male" haplogroup R1b met with the advancing to people with a pastoral/agricultural culture and a "male" haplogroup R1a somewhere on the Russian Plain or south of the Urals. It seems that in this case the people with the "male" haplogroup R1b did not stick to agriculture, but continued their way of living and therefore robbed and killed livestock farmers. At the same time, as perhaps before, people with "male" haplogroup I exterminated them and ravaged the Russian Plain. After the horse was domesticated around 6,000 years ago (Skulj et al. 2008), they became even more efficient in preying, conquering and exterminating the previous inhabitants - livestock breeders and farmers. Therefore, they were forced to expand southward. About 6,000 years ago, they invaded the Eastern Balkans (present-day Bulgaria), plundered the then Copper Age (actually Early Bronze Age) society and moved the center of this industry eastward, to the middle Volga and all the way to the Black Sea (Bailey 2000; 214-218 , 240-244). We do not yet know whether they came to the Eastern Balkans by land or by sea, but they probably knew how to use both types of routes while living along the Volga. Once they mastered Early Bronze Age production, it made it easier for them to penetrate further.
    Then they invaded the Middle East via the Caucasus (Kljosov 2010b, 2013). Here, too, we do not yet know if only by land or from the Volga by the Caspian Lake and rivers. Part of them invaded Lower Egypt via the Middle East, where they split into two parts. One part went south and reached Chad and Cameroon via present-day Sudan. The other part went to the west and reached the Iberian Peninsula via North Africa or the sea next to it until about 4,900 years ago. From there, they continued their livelihood through Western Europe to Scandinavia (Kljosov 2010b). This links people with haplogroup R1b to some archaeological cultures, particularly the Bell Beaker culture, whose spread fits well with their spread past the Pyrenees into France and from there into northern Europe and the British Isles.
    If Myres et al. (2011) also took into account the results of DNA genealogy, which follow from their data and which were already published at the time of writing their paper (Kljosov 2008, 2009a,b), their conclusions would have been completely different (Kljosov 2010b).
    The beginning of the bell culture is placed around 4,900 years ago in the southwest of the Iberian Peninsula, where there were deposits of copper ore, and from there 4,800 to 4,700 years ago it began to spread across Western Europe, first by sea. On their way to the northeast, they created enclaves across Spain, southern France, and the Po Valley. On the way to the north, they reached the western coasts of France, the British Isles and Ireland, and everywhere they looked for deposits of copper ore and produced arsenical bronze. From the bases in Brittany, they advanced along previously established routes and reached the lower course of the Rhine around 4,700 - 4,500 years ago, where they encountered the Corded Pottery culture, whose men had haplogroup R1a (Brandt et al. 2015). Direct data currently known for Ireland indicate that they were there around 3,900 to 3,600 years ago (Cassidy et al. 2015).
    In the process, they also attacked and partially occupied Central Europe. With this, they caused the withdrawal of part of the people with the "male" haplogroup R1a from Central Europe to Eastern Europe.
    The question is also whether people with the "male" haplogroup R1b did not introduce the slaveholding order and where yes and where possibly not.

    • @Abeturk
      @Abeturk Рік тому +1

      The language of the 𐱅𐰇𐰼𐰰 people
      (Ou)=U= it's / that
      (here it's) >Më’u >Mu =Bu= this
      (there it’s) >Thë’u >Tsu =Şu= that (şu=~xiou)
      (yes it’s) >Hë’u >Hau =O= it (he /she)
      (Al /ël)=(bearer/carrier)
      ël-diger>Ol diğer= Alter > other
      (Iz- uz) = S (plural suffix - doubling)
      Der/Dar=(der = diger> other) ...(dar=narrow> nearest to the other)
      (Ler/Lar)= plural suffixes > Ol diğer>elder/ uldar/ ular
      Ön>eun>une>fore>first-one>front
      Bir>ber>per>pri>pre>proto>fore>first one
      Baş>beş>pesh>front>fifth-finger>first one>ahead
      (önce=~firstly)-(önünde/öncesi=~before)-(öncü=pioneer)
      Ka=(Qua)= which
      Ka-u> Ki =(Qui)=which that
      (Eun-de-ka-u) >Öndeki >(anterior)= which one’s in front (which one’s ahead)
      (Ka-eun-de-u) >Kendi >(own)= which one’s the fore ( which one’s the first)
      (euz=öz= self) (kendisi=own self /kendi özü=oneself)
      our language
      (this one)= Mu-eun > (Men)> Ben = I / me (eun-weu)
      (that one)= Tsu-eun > (xien/thien)> Sen = You (eun-thu)
      (the one) = Hë’u -eun > (an /on) > O = it (he /she) (eun-hëu)
      (these ones)= Mu-eun-iz>(miŋiz)> Biz = We (eun-weu-s)
      (those ones)=Tsu-eun-iz>(siŋiz)> Siz = You (eun-thu-s) (plural)
      Hau-ël> Ol =O= it (he /she)
      El=someone else (~bearer / hand)
      (El-der)= Eller= other people (different persons)
      Hau-ël-dar= (Ouldar) =Ullar (The bearer and other-s nearest to it/him)
      Hau-eun-dar= (Andar)=Onlar= They
      Mu-ël-dar=(Mouldar>Boullar) =(This bearer and other-s nearest to this)
      Mu-eun-dar= (Moundar>Bounnar)=Bunlar= These
      Tsu-ël-dar=(Xiouldar>Shoullar) =(That bearer and other-s nearest to that)
      Tsu-eun-dar=(Xioundar>Shounnar)=Şunlar= Those
      Dayı=(maternal) uncle
      Dayım=my uncle
      Dayımlar=my uncle and other ones closest to him=(~my uncle and his family) or (~my uncle and his close friends)
      Dayılarım=my uncles
      ikiz=(two similar ones) =twin
      ikiler =two and other dual ones
      üçüz=(three similar ones)=triplet
      üçler = three and other triple ones
      her = every her bir= each
      her-bir-u = her biri = each one
      bir-u-her =birer = single each
      iki-tsu-her =ikişer =two each (each one’s a dual)
      üç-u-her = üçer =three each ( each one’s a triple)
      yedi-tsu-her = yedişer = each one's a septet
      (Mu-ëun-iŋ)=Meniŋ=Benim=My
      (Tsu-ëun-iŋ)=Seniŋ=Senin=Your
      (Ou-ël-ëun-iŋ)=Olniŋ=Onun=His/her/its
      (Mu-ëun-iz-iŋ)=Mŋiziŋ=Bizim=Our
      (Tsu-ëun-iz-iŋ)=Sŋiziŋ=Sizin=Your (Plural)
      (Ou-ël-ëun-dar-iŋ)=Olndarıŋ=Onların=Their
      Ka-u=Ki=(Qui)=which that
      (Meniŋ-ka-u):=which that my...= benimki=mine
      (Seniŋ-ka-u):=which that your = seninki=yours
      (Olniŋ-ka-u):=which that his/her/its= onunki= his/hers/its
      Çün=(chiun)=factor
      Ka=(Qua)= (which)
      U=(ou)= it's (that)
      (Ka-u)= Ki=(Qui)=which that
      (Çün-ka-u)=(factor-which-that) =Çünki =(c'est-pour-quoi)=(that's why)=(therefore)= Because
      U-Çün = the Factor İçün=it's for= için=for

    • @janeausten6584
      @janeausten6584 Рік тому

      @@Msgoddessk For a while, we can get closer to a better understanding of how it really was by confronting individual explanations and improving them, but sooner or later this stops. Then we have to use judgment to bring in additional, previously independent data, including and especially data that were not known to previous interpreters or were not taken into account. Often only an independent view "from the side" reveals new aspects of things and enables an improved interpretation.
      Therefore, when determining our past, it is necessary to take into account the data provided by many sciences. For more recent times, this is especially historiography, and for older people, it is especially archaeology, paleoclimatology, paleobotany, folklore, genetics, etc.
      Source:
      1. Kljosov A A, 2011a, Biological Chemistry as a Foundation of DNA Genealogy: the Emergence of »Molecular History«, Biokhimiya . (Biochemistry (Moscow).
      2. Kljosov A A, 2011h, Haplogrup R1b as a carrier of Proto-Türkic languages, aka Dene-Caucasion languages, aka Erbin, that is a non-IndoEuropean language its dynamics during 16.000 to 3.000 years before present. …(further in Russian).
      If you're male, get tested with 111 marker haplotypes (STRs) as well as enough information on single nucleotide base changes (SNPs). Data can help you not only verify but also sharpen interpretations and understanding of past actions.

    • @mackt.knight6688
      @mackt.knight6688 Рік тому

      Why is “male” in quotes?

    • @skidguy2893
      @skidguy2893 Рік тому +1

      @@Msgoddessk we prefer to be called massa, but colonizer works just fine.

    • @serkankinden5150
      @serkankinden5150 11 місяців тому +1

      I think indoeuropean languages are older than 6-8k years. Also, I dont think that R1 is related to indoeuropean even european. Because, when R1 people came to europe, there were elder I1 and I2 people in europe.
      In my opinion I1, I2 was a small part of indoeuropeans. When I look at each G, H, I1, I2, J2, L isloated haplogroup world maps, these haplogroups match well with indoeuropean culture map which include early farmer etc. cultures.
      Instead, R1 is uralic-altaic (agglutinative) because their origin is Altai mountains and P1 haplogroup which is relative of north asian N and east asian O3 haplogroups.
      Maybe, F is mesopotamian, G is georgian and caucasian arian, H is south indian, I1 is germanic visigoths, I2 is slavic ostrogoths, J2 is aramic greek and persian, L is penjabi indian. What do you think? Could you inspect without prejudices?

  • @Matstarx25
    @Matstarx25 Рік тому +10

    In regards to the African group of R1b, from FTDNA y-dna tree there is a common ancestor between an African group and a Saudi Arabian group already in 2000BCE.
    There has been multiple waves from the middle east to central Africa, from 14.000BCE till 2000BCE.

    • @robertolang9684
      @robertolang9684 Рік тому

      FTDNA ONLY PUBLISHES WHAT MAKES THEM MONEY LIKE ALL OTHER PROFIT COMPANIES , THEY DON'T DO NO PROFIT RESEARCH IN WORLD POPULATIONS , is time to put in your heads that encyclopedia Britannia did not worked to publish the great events of the Greek roman or Egyptians , but the British empire so most what you read there is taking from other rival sources and distorted ancient historians never called hibernians or britonians keltoy but they call themselves today keltoy (celtic people) bear that in mind

    • @robertolang9684
      @robertolang9684 Рік тому

      not to speak out about the ones that died in wars and famines and others disasters

    • @R1BV88MIXED
      @R1BV88MIXED 4 місяці тому

      R1 here. Considering one of the earliest civilization started around mesopotamia region

  • @brunngraggan679
    @brunngraggan679 7 місяців тому +2

    Doesn't this sound like a computer generated audio?

    • @cathjj840
      @cathjj840 5 місяців тому

      It is. Needs finer tuning. Author admitted it.

  • @farhadoveisi2248
    @farhadoveisi2248 9 місяців тому +2

    So you telling us, Eroupeans are from Kurdistan, that makes perfect sense.
    That is the reason for commonality of the genetics and lengusticly.
    Very interesting 👍

    • @Paraclef
      @Paraclef 7 місяців тому +1

      NON. Topography, geology show that this can not be true at all.

    • @KurdeQonya
      @KurdeQonya 3 місяці тому

      Its true! Kurdish tribes move to europe R1b and R1a kurds... max planck institue prove that and protoindoeuropean is todays kurdish automatically. Its proven but wait for the war in middle east and kurdish state than will change every book!!

    • @KurdeQonya
      @KurdeQonya 3 місяці тому +2

      Its definetly true im als kurdish rm269 and max planck institute found out protoindoeuropean Language is born in kurdistan….

  • @jasonmuniz-contreras6630
    @jasonmuniz-contreras6630 Рік тому +15

    According to David Reich and Iosif Lazaridis, male populations high in r1b(including m269) and that spoke Indo-Anatolian, developed South of the Caucasus. Only later, some of them crossed the Caucasus mountains and developed into Proto Indo-Europeans.

    • @geonomad1
      @geonomad1  Рік тому +5

      R1b seems to have stayed in Anatolia for quite some time before spreading to Europe.

    • @richern2717
      @richern2717 Рік тому +1

      Would like to see the samples of the Neolithic and Mesolithic from that area....because R1b was already in Europe during the Late Upper Paleolithic and Mesolithic according to actual ancient samples from Italy, Balkans, Ukraine and the Baltics...

    • @jasonmuniz-contreras6630
      @jasonmuniz-contreras6630 Рік тому +3

      @@richern2717 we'll see if future studies prove Reich and Lazaridis correct.

    • @ashala4183
      @ashala4183 Рік тому +1

      @@richern2717
      specially at Albanians.

    • @ashala4183
      @ashala4183 Рік тому

      Im Albanian i have the R1b pf7562 its nothing said about this haplo in the video and its still older then R1b-l23.

  • @genealogiaegeneticaemfoco1324
    @genealogiaegeneticaemfoco1324 Рік тому +3

    My YDNA is R1b-Z2103, branche Z2106.

    • @geonomad1
      @geonomad1  Рік тому +1

      good!

    • @Jordi_Llopis_i_Torregrosa96
      @Jordi_Llopis_i_Torregrosa96 Рік тому +2

      mine is R1b-Z278 from eastern Iberia, I assume you're either Portuguese or Brazilian?

    • @genealogiaegeneticaemfoco1324
      @genealogiaegeneticaemfoco1324 Рік тому +2

      @@Jordi_Llopis_i_Torregrosa96 Yes, I am Brazilian, my paternal lineage is Italian from Southern Italy

    • @ArkaimUral
      @ArkaimUral Рік тому +3

      У нас половина башкир такой группы)))

  • @shamrock4500
    @shamrock4500 6 місяців тому +2

    This would be easier to listen to if not robo speech. I am R1b-M269

  • @dolly5279
    @dolly5279 11 місяців тому +1

    Wow, I have always wondered why there was R1b in Africa but this video shows what happened to them. It is amazing! Thank you very much for this video! Also not just Africa but Asia and in China and Ukraine etc etc. Brilliant! Cynthia Allen McLaglen

  • @stanyduh5427
    @stanyduh5427 Рік тому +4

    this is also my halogroup paternal (R1B U106)like probably so much european. Fun fact Eppinghoven royal family (belgian king leopold I) are my cousins but mother side exept my paternal halogroup my father have nothing in common to my maternal side where King leopold I is her cousin and me too

    • @Joanna-il2ur
      @Joanna-il2ur 10 місяців тому +1

      Correct me if I misremember, but wasn’t Leopold I the uncle of Queen Victoria? Her ancestry is from the Electors of Hanover, so I guess his was too. Mostly German, but with a tiny bit of Scottish Stuart.

    • @crypticreality8484
      @crypticreality8484 2 місяці тому

      U have the typical West Germanic paternal ancestry

  • @ashala4183
    @ashala4183 Рік тому +5

    What about the mig of R1b/7562

    • @firstnejm
      @firstnejm 11 місяців тому +1

      Probably 7562>63 is old proto-albanian haplogroup.

  • @VesislavDyulgerov-nr6rc
    @VesislavDyulgerov-nr6rc 10 годин тому

    Interesting how Provadia salt mine culture burials fit into this. 7000 years ago at 5000+BCE? It is clear that there were already trade routes (horses domesticated allready, wheeled cars) established based on Salt trade. Gold artifacts show added value in hands of aristocracy. So chronology might have to be pushed back some?

  • @michealjackson8269
    @michealjackson8269 Рік тому +4

    the white features come from hapolgroup i ydna and g ydna. hapolgroup R is native or mongol looking

    • @verenatuna9010
      @verenatuna9010 3 місяці тому

      Exactly!

    • @Dou_Y
      @Dou_Y 2 місяці тому

      they killed the real europeans and conquered european women so they got today's looking

    • @touijer
      @touijer 17 днів тому

      Yes, original R1b's were tanned

  • @QabilAGhor
    @QabilAGhor Рік тому +4

    I AM SO CONFUSED and need someone to explain my origins. I am Pakistani and I am R1b1a1b [R-CTS1843] which is the most dominant group in Europe. But I am 0% European. I have no family history of European ancestry and don't seem to have any European ancestor in the last 400 years or so. I do have many distant cousins (7th or 8th cousins with 0.12 or 0.14 DNA shared) who are all White Americans or Europeans. I also have ancestors who are 100% from Levant, Anatolia and Central Asia. What does it all mean? Does it mean that my original paternal ancestors were European who eventually migrated to Americas or does it mean that thousands of years ago siblings of my forefathers migrated to Europe?

    • @KurdeQonya
      @KurdeQonya 3 місяці тому

      Balochi?

    • @QabilAGhor
      @QabilAGhor 3 місяці тому

      @@KurdeQonya No I am not Baloch.

    • @verenatuna9010
      @verenatuna9010 3 місяці тому

      It means that your paternal lineage is a mix of both, Shemitic (mtd, maternal) and Asiatic (paternal) people groups who mingled in Mesopotamia, then migrated both, northward to Eurasia/Western Europe - and southward into India.

    • @QabilAGhor
      @QabilAGhor 3 місяці тому +1

      @@verenatuna9010 It is interesting that you made that observation. Are you suggesting that R-CTS1843 is originally an Asiatic haplogroup and not European?
      23&Me shows that about 7 generations ago [this is as far back as they can trace, I guess], I had one ancestor who was 100% Levantine and the second oldest (in the same time frame) was 100% Anatolian. So you could be right that an Anatolian male ancestor probably married a Levantine woman. A cousin of my mother (partly European) shows 0% Levantine or Anatolian DNA, so that must all have come from the paternal side. I am also 2% Iranian/Caucasian/Mesopotamian.

    • @verenatuna9010
      @verenatuna9010 3 місяці тому

      @@QabilAGhor Yes Qabil, I do consider haplogroup R -CTS1843 (R in general) to be (originally) Asiatic!
      I believe, that haplogroup R heavily mingled with the ancient Elamites - and maybe other people groups in Mesopotamia, like eg. the Assyrians and Chaldeans.
      Eg. the Persians and Medes were such a mixed people group.
      I assume, that their phenotype changed in Europe, due to admixing with "Caucasian" groups (like hgs I, J, K, G, etc) from the maternal lines.

  • @chanzenemetonshriner4617
    @chanzenemetonshriner4617 2 місяці тому

    R-DF13 is my Y-DNA haplogroup... I knew there was a reason I liked the number thirteen!

  • @marikambhadevistudios8730
    @marikambhadevistudios8730 4 місяці тому +2

    I am Lambani a tribe from India we have R1b 38-40% R1a-8.6% and c1-17.1% and L1-17.1%

  • @husaynfirdavs9671
    @husaynfirdavs9671 Рік тому +7

    Gog Magog tribe. Gog R1b Magog R1a😂😂😂

    • @ouperta5973
      @ouperta5973 10 місяців тому

      اشکانیان همون دودمانهای۶ و ۱۷ و ۱۸ مصری هستند . از سکاهای غربی پردرایه که آتون پرست بودند بعد اینکه از مصر بر میگردند از بابل رد میشن و باغهای معلق بابل رو میسازند به اطراف دریای سیاه کوج میکنند و بعدا مهرانیان رو هم دوره اشکانیها تاسیس میکنند در جنگهاشون ازینها کمک میگیرند.
      در اطراف دریای خزر اشکناز های سکایی یا یاجوج و ماجوج میشوند ازونجا به چین میرن و اهرام چینی میسازن بعد داخل فلات ایران بر میگردند حکومت ادابن رو در عراق و خوزستان امروزی تاسیس میکنند ازونجا به شرق میرند و در سیستان حکومت هندو سکایی رو برقرار میکنند این دوران مقارن است با شکست پارسها از اسکندر که به خراسان کوچ میکنند و اشکانیان رو تاسیس میکنند با روم ۷۵۰ سال میجنگند و با دین مهر پرستی و نصرانی مسیحی که از اتون پرستی مصری منتج شده کشورهای ایتالان اسپن پروس بیزانس پلستین ... رو بنا میکنند و با اعراب میجنگند و از نفوذ اعراب به اروپا جلوگیری میکنند بازماندگانشون زبان فارسی رو در شرق گسترش میدند که بعد اعراب داخل ایران نفوذ میکند و بعد از چندین حکومت زبان فارسی تو هند گسترده و حفظ میشه بعدها ترکا و مغولهام هندرو فتح میکنند اما در زبان شرقی فارسی جذب و نابود میشن . و اما زبان فارسی با زبان پارسی هخامنشی فرق داره . این زبان با یونانی و لاتین همخانواده یه . بازماندگان زبان پارسی باستان مثل بلوچها گیلان .. ریشه های زبان فارسی رو باید در مصر باستان جستجو کرد که یونانیها کارگران اهرام مصر بودند و به زبان رمزی بین خودشون صحبت میکردند . الفبای فارسی از الفبای هیر گلف مصری بوجود آمده.
      وقتی سکاهای مصری به هندوستان لشکر میکشند قومیتی از خودشون به جا میزارن که احتمالا به زبان زرگری صحبت میکردند . پیشینه زبانهای رمزی به مصر برمیگرده بنایان اهرام مصری. زبان زرگری الانم تو هند هست پادشاهان اشکانیم بین خودشون با زبان زرگری یا پهله حرف میزدند که با حذف ز زبان دری دیوانی هندی ...

  • @ferenccsoka9933
    @ferenccsoka9933 Рік тому +1

    How about rL -4

  • @feilox
    @feilox 7 місяців тому +1

    Can you do O haplogroup? The difference between Koreans, Thai, Vietnamese, Japanese etc...

  • @76rjackson
    @76rjackson Рік тому +3

    Good video. There are better robot readers. Using a better one would be a big plus.

    • @geonomad1
      @geonomad1  Рік тому +1

      😊😊😊 Let's train my AI more.

    • @76rjackson
      @76rjackson Рік тому +3

      @@geonomad1 sure! May I suggest, then, that in the script you cue the AI to read the haplogroup designations more slowly by inserting spaces between the alphanumerics? eg.
      R 1 a, R 1 b, etc. That's one way it might sound more natural since English native speakers do tend to give each alphanumeric full and equal stress but the AI isn't doing that. Just a thought.

  • @DinaricUbermensch
    @DinaricUbermensch Рік тому +6

    R1b-Z2103 Illyrian haplogroup found in vucedol cultural area 💪

    • @DinaricUbermensch
      @DinaricUbermensch Рік тому

      @@tomo5521 Yes it was, there were samples from Vucedol that were R1b-z2103 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vu%C4%8Dedol_culture

    • @DinaricUbermensch
      @DinaricUbermensch Рік тому +1

      @@tomo5521 Did you even go on the link I sent?m a sample of R1b-Z2103 was found in croatia which dates back to bronze age proto-illyrian culture. the illyrians spoke an indo-european language.

    • @DinaricUbermensch
      @DinaricUbermensch Рік тому

      @@tomo5521 It's not just wikipedia that says this lol, even on many other sites like eupedia, theapricity etc talk about it and say that R1b-Z2103 was found in Vucedol cultural area

    • @DinaricUbermensch
      @DinaricUbermensch Рік тому

      ​@@tomo5521 I never said they originated from vucedol, they were already established people during bronze age with the Vucedol culture

    • @user-po3cg2cm2i
      @user-po3cg2cm2i Рік тому

      @@DinaricUbermensch Hi I have Haplogroup I2-M223

  • @Anand-92
    @Anand-92 Рік тому

    can this video be in hindi also?

  • @mihalykocsis2013
    @mihalykocsis2013 10 місяців тому +1

    I am a Hungarian and my DNA came from the Sirius star system 😇🥹

  • @willjapheth23789
    @willjapheth23789 Рік тому +3

    Kinda interesting. Kinda like how in China certain paternal line last name dominant over time, I guess this random father line from Asia dominated. I'd guess that people in the fertile crest had the population and learned farming so they could easily expand north after the ice age and probably dominated economically, so their male line out grow the previous male lines in Europe.
    This topic is scary with all the racist propaganda out there on this subject. People are so obsessed with having their people come from a grand narrative as though that makes them special.

    • @geonomad1
      @geonomad1  Рік тому +2

      People who hunted mammoths near Baikal migrated to various places as the prey decreased as the climate changed.

  • @Vedatyildirimm
    @Vedatyildirimm 11 місяців тому +4

    Hello, i am a Kurd or Kurdish or i am from Kurdistan, my haplogroup is R1b-L2 or R1b1a1b1a1a2b1. I am very confused 😂 What does it mean?

    • @Baryshx
      @Baryshx 10 місяців тому

      Congratulations, you are Turk😅

    • @Vedatyildirimm
      @Vedatyildirimm 10 місяців тому

      @@Baryshx on the contrary, you are a Kurd. 🤨

    • @Joanna-il2ur
      @Joanna-il2ur 10 місяців тому

      On the contrary, you are yourself. You are not your DNA!

    • @Baryshx
      @Baryshx 10 місяців тому

      @@Vedatyildirimm Haha, you're very funny, but genes don't lie😉

    • @Vedatyildirimm
      @Vedatyildirimm 10 місяців тому

      @@Joanna-il2ur do you have an instagram account?

  • @artemsinepolskiy6520
    @artemsinepolskiy6520 6 місяців тому +1

    Author, have you even heard anything about the Neolithic of the Balkans, Romania and Ukraine???

  • @alexeysaphonov232
    @alexeysaphonov232 3 місяці тому

    Just of it for a moment. Reconstructed PIE language is 6-8k yep and assosiated with the spread culture is yamnaya. At the same time split for satem and centum is almost matching R1a R1b split. But this last split is 20-30k ybp.

  • @urutimaterauncher-orev
    @urutimaterauncher-orev Рік тому +4

    this video makes it clear that languages are nothing compared to ancestry

    • @geonomad1
      @geonomad1  Рік тому +2

      Genetic analysis has enabled more accurate historical interpretation.

    • @anomalianomali5080
      @anomalianomali5080 Рік тому +1

      Yeah after learn about genetic i believe that ethnic group which is based on languages is really just social construct

    • @starfieldo
      @starfieldo Рік тому

      @@geonomad1 genetic analysis has also added more relevance to phylolinguistic analyses. you should probably take this study www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10064553/ into consideration, for an updated video.

  • @azizyigido
    @azizyigido Рік тому +3

    P1:R and brother Q is Ancient Siberian Altaic Turkic and Native american blood🐺

    • @geonomad1
      @geonomad1  Рік тому

      👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👌

    • @Jamrock151
      @Jamrock151 Рік тому +1

      R Is originally mongoloid/East-Eurasian.

    • @anomalianomali5080
      @anomalianomali5080 10 місяців тому

      ​@@Jamrock151probably basal east asian not modern east asian, "mongoloid" looking only exist 10kya

    • @Dou_Y
      @Dou_Y 2 місяці тому

      turk is mongoloid, and turk is originally haplogroup N@@Jamrock151

    • @ChristopherTanne-se3pz
      @ChristopherTanne-se3pz 25 днів тому +1

      Look new reaserch. Transeurasic familiy. Turk eastasien ! Dont try be blond aryan 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @MmmGallicus
    @MmmGallicus Рік тому

    What are your sources and how scientific is your narrative?

    • @starfieldo
      @starfieldo Рік тому

      ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10064553/ check it for yourself.

    • @anomalianomali5080
      @anomalianomali5080 10 місяців тому

      It is common knowledge

  • @Secular_Iran_GE
    @Secular_Iran_GE 2 місяці тому

    R1b is Celto-Germanic common in the western Europe ,in bashkirs ,Iranian kurdistan,North Turkey

  • @RM-yf2lu
    @RM-yf2lu Рік тому +3

    You reported a siberian origin for haplogroups Qand R. Please explain to me what ancestral Q population back migrated from lake baikal area into India to make up 3% of males today...a much more sensible explanation would be an Indian point of origin, spreading from the infinitely higher population present there and the widest variability of Q of any population

  • @albertdeleon6272
    @albertdeleon6272 9 місяців тому +5

    Bottom line everyone is from African

    • @Paraclef
      @Paraclef 7 місяців тому

      NON. Topography, geology show that this can not be true at all. You are ignorant.

    • @jasonmuniz-contreras6630
      @jasonmuniz-contreras6630 6 місяців тому

      So what?

    • @touijer
      @touijer 4 місяці тому

      Bottom line everyone is human

  • @emilrangelov6473
    @emilrangelov6473 Рік тому +1

    Are R1b people founders of the Vincha culture?

  • @guidospira8773
    @guidospira8773 Рік тому +1

    I would like to see a video about the Eastern branch of the R1b the R1b-Z2103.

    • @FTC207
      @FTC207 10 місяців тому

      i have that one too

  • @sgjoni
    @sgjoni Рік тому +5

    Great to have the the mapping of the migration with the archeology and geography of the time period to get a clearer picture. There is one conflation at the end of the video, R-DF19 is shown as a branch of R-L11 rather than R-P312 and R-U106 as a branch of R-P312 rather than of R-L11. Sorry for the nit picking but I’m R-DF19 so I notice… also that one should probably be marked in the Netherlands rather than Denmark as that is where the oldest DNA samples are from and there are not enough old Scandinavian samples to make it clear that it has old roots in Scandinavia… though there is one branch of R-DF19>DF88 that seems like it could be.

    • @geonomad1
      @geonomad1  Рік тому +4

      I tried to mark the points as accurately as possible on the map. However, please understand that it cannot be 100% accurate. Thanks for your additional information.

    • @sgjoni
      @sgjoni Рік тому

      @@geonomad1 No need to apologise. These maps are great!… so, well done. I do realise that they are only guesstimations based on distribution of modern samples and a hand full of ancient ones… that is why I excused my nit picking. I just couldn’t resist because my haplogroup is R-DF19+ and I’ve been debating this for a while in different forums. The consensus seems to be that R-DF19 is Germanic/Scandinavian but I haven’t been able to find any evidence for that claim in the data. The very sparse number of samples from Scandinavia seem to be relatively recent arrivals bar one branch… and it’s main distribution seems to be from the Rhine region in Germany to the British Isles, peaking in Belgium.

    • @TheMariepi3
      @TheMariepi3 Рік тому +1

      Scandinavia until about ten thousand years ago was covered in ice. Possibly the first humans to settle there had arrived in a slow migration from the Balkans (haplogroup i), following the mammoths and other taiga-type animals that moved northward as the masses of ice were replaced by tundra. Instead, the R1b were possibly horse hunters from the Caspian area.

    • @bethbartlett5692
      @bethbartlett5692 Рік тому

      @@geonomad1
      How were all the Original Male English eliminated? Less than 2% 9f their DNA remains in Britain, the Female continued. This means all Males: Adult, Adolescent, Child, and Infant, were eliminated, either by slavery or by "ethnic cleansing", replaced by the Germanics, Anglo, Saxons, Jutes, Normans, Romans, ...
      It was not a "natural fade".
      This subject has obviously been removed from the records, (for people whom are obsessed with record keeping, it was not an oversight).
      I await some content that explains the facts. I found it most difficult to gain any clarity, thus I'm left to assume, using my accumulation of knowledge on such subjects.
      a Sociologist/Behavioralist
      and Historian
      PS: Horses were the business of Scythians and Mongols.
      BTW, Abe Lincoln showed up in our family DNA and Ancestry.com. 4th cousin, Twice removed.
      Amazes me, but I am Basque lineage Irish (American), Rh(-) and County Kerry.

    • @bennybenny5509
      @bennybenny5509 9 місяців тому +1

      Moin ich bin auch DF19 was meinst du ist es germanisch oder keltisch. so genau konnte es mir auch keiner sagen weil es zuwenig von uns gibt , ich weiß nur dass wir zu dir glockenbecher gehören

  • @UptownEJ
    @UptownEJ Рік тому +3

    R1b-u152 here

  • @dimitrivit
    @dimitrivit Рік тому +2

    Hello. I live in South of Ukraine. I can explain the ways of L754 migrations there near 3500bc.

  • @selenablack3141
    @selenablack3141 Рік тому +1

    So I don't know what to think know do the italian people still live there it would be nice to know so I mite have family there

  • @straytonox1492
    @straytonox1492 Рік тому +6

    R1B master of the world

  • @papazataklaattiranimam
    @papazataklaattiranimam Рік тому +7

    Both Basque and Chadic peoples have this haplo :0

  • @skylinelover9276
    @skylinelover9276 6 місяців тому +1

    The ancient Dorians Greeks like Spartans is probably R1b peoples

  • @janosgruner3163
    @janosgruner3163 6 місяців тому +1

    Az tudná a valós történelemet aki vissza tudna menni az időben és rögzítené.
    Amíg ez nincs addig csak a találgatás folyik.

  • @claudemontalbano3381
    @claudemontalbano3381 Рік тому +5

    D'après une analyse génétique je suis L51 mais d'après certains généticiens c'est l'haplogroupe le plus fréquent dans le sud de la France. Je ne comprends pas pourquoi cette sous-clade de R1b est absente du processus décrit dans votre vidéo. D'autre part certains scientifiques pensent que R est apparu spontanément autour du lac Baikal, exactement comme A, B ,C sont apparus spontanément en Afrique sans aucun lien entre eux. R serait donc selon cette thèse un euro-asiatique et pas un africain d'origine!

    • @cathjj840
      @cathjj840 5 місяців тому

      From another comment, there seemed to be the implication that R was introduced to sub saharan Africa by Arabians as early as 14,000 yrs ago (?).

    • @verenatuna9010
      @verenatuna9010 3 місяці тому

      R is definitely Euro-Asian.

    • @touijer
      @touijer 17 днів тому

      T'est dans une sous-clade beaucoup plus récente que L51, mais L51 c'est la branche R1B qui est aller a l'Ouest tandis que l'autre branche Z2103 est aller dans l'Est.

  • @bigbang2905
    @bigbang2905 Рік тому +9

    Turkic Tribes Culsters
    R1b1a2 Uyghur Khaganate
    R1b1a2a2 Uyghur Khaganate
    R1b1a1a* Kypshak Branch
    R1b1b1
    Komandin Branch
    R1b1a1a2a Bashkir Branch
    R-Y14051 Kimak Branch
    R-Ph200 Hun Branch

    • @papazataklaattiranimam
      @papazataklaattiranimam Рік тому +8

      Although R is Asiatic in origin, it is unfortunately tried to be made European by eurocentrics.

    • @aboba5995
      @aboba5995 Рік тому +5

      Don't tell to Turkic "people" that R and Q come from the Caucasoid Ancient North Eurasians (ANE), also don't tell them that these haplogroups still dominate in Caucasoid populations.
      Q dominates in Yeniseian populations
      R dominates in IE populations

    • @robinrosevear
      @robinrosevear Рік тому

      My paretnal line is R1b1b2, M269, do you have any info about this one?

    • @anomalianomali5080
      @anomalianomali5080 Рік тому

      @@aboba5995 ANE isnt caucasoid they from distinct different group, the real caucasoid is arab, europe is basically mix between arab like people and siberian like people

    • @Selerikler
      @Selerikler Місяць тому

      P haplogroup is Angara or Hungara.Than coming two tribe.First is Baykal(Baikall) and second Altay(Altai).Baykal tribe is Q haplogroup.Altay is R haplogroup.