PLACEMENT OF SHOWER VALVE...subscriber request
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- Опубліковано 24 січ 2018
- In order for tile to be flush with your valve after tile is set, you must know where to anchor the valve during the plumbing phase.
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So very helpful, saved me on two projects so far. Thank you!
Finally some one knows what they're talking about ..good job 👍
Finally! After looking at several other videos online, this was all I was looking for, for confirmation. Thanks!
Agreed!!
Same here - Thank you, sir
Very helpful Im in the prosses of renovating my Shower stall ,I kept a section of the old wall board that I removed with the the same tile attached Im using that as a Guide to give me the proper alignment as to where to set my Diverter.
Exactly what i wanted to see. Thank you.
Very very helpful simple instructions that helped me out as a newbie. Thank you
Thanks for the more detailed explanation of the mud cap. I guess for contractors; it's not generally something that needs to have a more in-depth explanation on many DIY videos. I'm working on a 70 bath & shower remodel with a new single handle replacing an old hot/cold with diverter.
Excellent video that no other video I've watched covers. Well done.
Thanks for making this video. Ima a DIYer and I’ve been following your videos every step of the way
Thank you!! Your video is the best and most descriptive of how to do this that have seen to date.
Thank you! I wish you were close to me here in Michigan. I am about to do my shower. Thank you for these videos!!
Thanks man I am been searching for this info everywhere and you are the only one with the right answer, subscribed 👍
I'm currently in the middle of trying to figure all this out with my own shower.. Its been MUCH more difficult than your experience makes it look like in your videos! (But still, thanks for the videos!)
It was VERY HELPFUL! Doin that this morning!! Thank you sir
My man, helping me make this money! Thank you sir!
This was great! Exactly what I was looking for
I wanted to see this exact video with the swapping the valve as well to a new one and the connections used. I need to replace my whole valve and now fittings for a remodel project I am doing.
Good video I had trouble with this my first shower . I had to tear out wall board and reset valve, Wish I would've watched a video like this. The good ol days
Damn it man !!!!!
Just when your all proud and happy with your work and you go to trim out and think " OH GOD !! THIS CANT BE RIGHT !!! "
I hope it all worked out and ya learned something
This is what nightmares are made of
Right but what if I’m just using a prefab shower wall that is direct to stud?
Very helpful. Thanks.
What if your using a shower surround, and you don’t have that option to put a piece of wallboard and tile to get it lined up?
Perfect description bud.great job
Excellent information. Thanks for posting. Consider getting a tripod.
That's the answer I've been searching for!! Thanks!
Omg! You answered my question also.
THANK YOU SIR. FAAAAAAR OUT FINALLY FOUND A USEFUL VIDEO ❤️❤️
Thank you for this. No one talks about where to put this stuff. Should have dont the tub spout also
Thats what I was looking for , short n sweet
this is a great video! Thank you! For sharing!
Appreciate the help ❤
Thank you Im right at this point soon so very helpful!
Anybody know do you set valve for a direct to stud shower enclosure? Thanks!
lol, that answers my exact question.
Thank you so much for this
Do you have to use this? We forget to install this and wondering if we need to redo the area of tile and backer to fit it in there? I'm sure this part has a purpose of some sort. If not I don't want to tear out the tile and start over
I think I mentioned on the video that the pretty stuff meaning the plate and the valve handle and all that stuff may not fit if it's not spaced correctly, but if you've already put your tile up you can do a Dri-Fit to see if they work
Perfect men. Thanks
Thanks for the info
Need help! I installed new rough in valve in my house and no now there's no hot water. What I did wrong? Probably hot and cold water mix in the valve. How can I fix it?
great insight
Thank you so much!
Simply beautiful
Thank you .
Is the shower valve required to be secured to the framing? I see it sometimes in new construction from some builders, other times it is secured to the fiberglass shower wall. Those installs typically work loose pretty quickly. I thought fixtures and plumbing had to be attached to framing.
I attach mine Everytime but I have been remolding for 30 + years and I know exactly how deep it needs to be
I have seen many DYI people that done attached them because they are worried about the depth
I don't use the mud gard ether especially with Moen because it doesn't leave a lot of tile to cover with the trim scussion ring
If your tile is a little bit off of the ring you can easily end up with a gap witch means ya have to replace a tile
No one wants to tell a home owner " Oh sorry but I'll have to bust a tile off and replace it . " " So it'll be a couple more days before you can use the new shower 🚿 ."
Hi sir,
Thanks for all the great videos.
I'm doing this right now. If I understood correctly, if you happen to err, it should be placing the mixing valve a drop back from the finished wall rather then having it stick too far out. Is that correct?
Thanks!!
I have shower 🚿 mixer which was install in my bathroom but it’s not turning off!
It keep running water on either side of cold and hot water!
When i examine, it shows that an the cold water side which located on the right hand side of the mixer is connected the hot water pipe that went outside to the hot water pump!
On the left side which is originally hot water side, it have on the hot water pipe!
On the upper middle pipe it have the shower 🚿 pipe!
On the lower middle it have on the main pipe that came in from outside off the main line!
Is every thing all okay with the setting up of the mixer?
If not ok would it cause the valve from not able to lack off the water 🚿 from running constantly
Question: I'm replacing tile for tub and have the wall bare. 30yr old house. Should I replace Balanced Valve before closing it all up? No leaks, but would hate to miss the opportunity if it is smart.
Absolutely, I would, no reason not to
What if the mud plate sticks out or is not flush after the tiling/grouting is complete? Will this be a problem when trying to affix the escutcheon or can this be easily adjusted by the plumber so that the final look is as desired?
It can only be adjusted if the anchoring of the valve is accessible.
There is a little bit of playroom if it is too deep or sticks out a tad, but if it's too much it will not work
Great video here.
How do you set the valve if using prefab panels that stck out 2-2/2" from the drywall? Thanks
As a rule those type of showers have the pipes coming out of the floor and not the bottom plate, that way they already bumped out 2 or 3 in, the valve is installed and is basically floating, in other words it is not anchored to anything but the shower panel itself.
@@StarrTile Thank you for the info. In my case, I have existing plumbing. How would you suggest I move it forward to work with this new shower kit that's going in? Thanks.
Great video👍. What’s a good height for the temp valve and also a 3way diverter? I’m putting temp valve under the 3way diverter
I don't have a measurement to give you, I usually just put a around Belly level for the mixer and then the diverter would be about 8 or 12 above that
@@StarrTile cool I was going to do about 8-10. Thank you👍
What if you aren't using wall board and just a shower surround
20 years installing tile and shower valves. The simplest way to explain the correct depth of the shower valve would be to figure out the hight of the center point of the valve. Cut a 2x4 to the width between the 2 studs where the valve will go. Install it to the back of the studs with the center of the 2x4 at the height of the center point of the valve and screw it to the 2x4, plumb. I cannot think of any past shower valve that this method did not work on. I believe valves are built to be installed this way to deliver the finish product you want at the correct depths. Now in the event you have 2x6 framing and so on you will need to adjust for that. But on standard 2x4 framing this is how I always do it and I never have any issues.
I'm sure someone will give their own opinion at some point, and if you can explain your point in a manner that might actually teach me something other than the fact that you know how to insult people, I'd love to learn something new.
Obviously I can't teach you anything new, nor would I try, this is my channel of my videos if you choose to watch then great and if you go away it doesn't matter to me..
But after the same 20 years of doing showers, I have run into a Moen, Delta, Price Pfister, and half a dozen others, your method would not work for every single one so there is no one set solution except to follow your mudguard which is what I talk about in here
@@StarrTile that responce is fair enough. I honestly didn't expect you to be the one who answered me. The question was more directed towards the know it alls that constantly appear in your video threads. I honestly respect you as an installer, I watch a lot of your videos and agree for the most part on your techniques. And what few things I may disagree on are more opinionated than anything. But I too have installed all the different name brands you just mentioned and this method always works for me. Now with each name brand I'm sure there is more than one design of valve that they make and this may be where you are seeing a difference. IDK. But in the event you ever run across a situation where what I suggested just wouldn't work. I'd like to see it somehow. Name of manufacturer and series name. I'm not asking you to make a special video just for me. But the information in a message would be great. Who knows, maybe that would save me from a mistake one day. Anyways thanks for the reply and just know that there are people out here who care as much as you do. We are not all "tail light warranty" tile men. Take care buddy.
So since you used a section of wallboard and tile to position the valve, but you still ended up 1/4” past the outer edge of the mudguard, does that man we should adjust the location of the valve 1/4” past flush with the section of tile board and tile to account for the thinset in the actual installation? Thanks and I appreciate what you do to help us.
There is a little wiggle room with those mud guards I'm going to say up to that quarter inch you were speaking of, but since I know what my wallboard tile and thinset will be I'm pretty much on point... though it would not hurt to go to the lower end of the mudguard rather than the outer end
Is drywall the same
Hello, is a mud cap/plastic guard even necessary? My shower never got one installed and now I’m replacing parts and the one I bought doesn’t fit because it butts against a wooden stud.
Not a matter of it being necessary, since it serves not real purpose OTHER than knowing where your tile stops....but that's the rub, it lets you know where your tile stops. If you have a valve that lets you know that without the mudguard then of course you don't need it.
@@StarrTile thank you for the prompt response!
than you
Very good 👍 I got it 👍
How about if the shower walls will be Floated?
I need you to come to my state!!!
My handyman did not use the madcap (also didn't use the right board, just sheetrock, yes, that had to come out). Expensive valve, expensive hardware, all new tile. And once finished the darn valve is 1" away from the tiles.
Everything wiggles too, nothing was anchored. Fixtures are not lined up with drain, shower arm is crooked. A mess. First plumber i called to diagnose said I had to demo (all new material after a leak) and start from zero. Another said I need to access the wall from behind (a bedroom), anchor, move as needed, close wall, texture, and paint O.o
Does that make sense? Can it be done right? What would you recommend?
Valve and fixtures are Moen PosiTemp, trim is Align.
The latter remedy is better than the former, and a good plumber can make that work, will save a lot of time and effort Busting Out tile from the front
@@StarrTile
Thank you, I was hoping for a magical third option but I think we must break that wall. Did you do a video about anchoring? You describe it here, but I need to show something so there is less chances of error... that's what I did with shower pan and redguard, "like this screenshot, nope, screws must be covered, not on the side of the pan, just the joints is not enough, the whole wall, yes -like this" They hate you now, and I'm a Karen but I referred so many customers to your videos, you saved us.
I really like the content I'll hit the sub button
bathtub faucet replacement
You know you need to specify, I have a couple of videos with faucet replacement on deck of Jacuzzi tub
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Music is fucking annoying!
Need help! I installed new rough in valve in my house and no now there's no hot water. What I did wrong? Probably hot and cold water mix in the valve. How can I fix it?