Now that I know a little more about the difference, I'm split between the 2 banners. I haven't encountered anyone who's pulled Siris on the 100 banner in fewer than 75 pulls (8x10pulls with 5 left over) but in the game chat, it looks like the average is somewhere between 85 & 95. That's only slightly better than losing 50/50 every single time on the 80 banner. The difference is that you don't even get a dup of a standard character. On the other hand, if the game is in a humorous mood when you pull on the 80 banner, it might make you lose 50/50 above 70 and then only give you the limited character above 60. Either situation isn't exactly ideal for F2P.
Im assuming the reason the average is somewhere between 85 and 95 is probably cause of soft pity assuming the banner has it. The 0.1% chance of pulling something before soft pity is definitely not ideal. I'm leaning a bit more in the direction of the guarantee banner being a bit more f2p friendly just because of the fact you get what you're looking for at 100 pulls instead of potentially going up to 160 to get the limited character. If the rates were like at least 1.0% on the 50/50 banner then I think I would be on the fence about it.
@unlimitoad - Yeah, it's a hard choice. Watching one UA-camr actually pulling Siris at exactly 90, has pushed me into leaning a little more towards 50/50. The game simply doesn't have enough purples available on F2P to take it to 85 and above (75 if you're very lucky), every single time. That's of course unless you've got a tonne of purples already saved up at event start. Maybe it's my insanely good luck in the previous event that's made me delusional but the odds on the 80 banner seems ever so slightly better.
@@MaxumeYeah i can see where your coming from. The 80 banner is better if you win the 50/50 or get 5 stars early but the 100 is better if you dont want to take the risk and tend to loose the 50/50 like me🤣
I agree I'm finding this new banner isn't really for f2p it's for whales to just buy the characters I think is my opinion. 100 pulls is a lot in this game you would be very lucky to get that many in 30 days for an update. But each update has 2 character banners so you really need 200 pulls per month. I'm confused how they are going to sell skins for characters if I can't even get the characters 😭 either lose the 50/50 or not have enough pulls for the 100 as F2P or spend my money on pulls not really happy with any of those options lol
@@brendonbewersdorf986 When I posted the comment I had my doubts but I'm now firmly in the 50/50 camp. The 100 banner is undoubtedly designed purely for the sake of whales and for roping other people into paying by using the "I'm almost there" carrot.
On paper 0.7% looks so much better than 0.1%. But in reality, I've been playing this game since the beginning and I have never gotten 5 stars characters under 70 pull. Maybe some people got super lucky once or twice. To be honest 0.7% is pretty abysmal, I wouldn't rely on it. Not to mention you can lose the 50/50 and you will have to go over 100. Might as well pull the new one, the chance to get 5 stars is still bad but the less RNG I have to deal with the better.
I think the new banner is for whales to just buy the characters basically is what I think 🤔 because while the guaranteed is really nice 100 pulls is A lot especially if your F2p. Then factor in reruns for each patch so you need about 200 pulls depending on your luck if you want Kataya and siris? That's alot 😭 it doesn't help they keep throwing 4-5 skins at us each patch and I don't have any of the characters the skins are for lol I'll have to see how this plays out in game im gonna try the 100 for Kataya and try my hardest to somehow get enough for her because she is a must have character if you want to do good in this game. I'll see if the 100 does good or not
I agree that 0.7 is very low thats kinda why I personally feel like the 100% is slightly better especially for people with luck like mine. If the rates were like 1% or higher then I feel like it would be a little closer. I usually get my five stars on the regular banner mostly late 60s and sometimes early 70s,I think I got 1 or 2 earlier but I cant remember my pulls from when I started the game.
@@brendonbewersdorf986 Yeah youre probably right that the new banner is definitely better for whales or even low spenders. F2P is a bit of a toss up depending on how each players summons are. Maybe its just how my katya is built, but I dont think shes a must have to do good in the game. I use her all the time but I can do just fine without her considering I have cherno and yao with her weapon.
@@unlimitoad yeah that sucks this banner doesn't seem like an upgrade id have been fine if they increased the pity but kept the rate because 1% is already extremely low. As for kataya she is a very strong DPS that makes a lot of the more tanky HP bloated bosses easier from what I've seen. I don't have her so I'm just going from what other people have told me. They tell me I gotta get her if I want to be able to take down harder bosses because her DPS is off the charts. I don't have cherno I wasted a lot of my saved pulls on her and got nothing lol. I really don't have any good dps besides fenny Coronet I can't comment on yao i don't have her upgraded at all.
Not gonna lie i am not super happy with this new gacha system. as a F2P i would be more inclined to buy skins if i actually had any of the characters the skins are for. The issue is if you step back and look at it each patch lasts around 30~ days and you will have a rerun character each patch so you would need to somehow get 200 pulls in a single month to get both characters not including weapons banner pulls. This game is most fun when playing more casually but if you actually wanted the characters you will now have to grind for currency making the game less fun. Im just not seeing how this new banner makes much of a difference. It seems from my impression that you basically trade the 50/50 for having to grind even more to scrounge up currency. If someone could do the math im curious if its even possible to get enough digicash currency for both characters in a month it might not even be possible 🤔. These are just my thoughts
@@unlimitoad yeah well if it is indeed 90 unless you saved 10 summons your not guaranteed even one lol 🤣 that sucks the 50/50 is still the better option I really hate that system I always enjoy spending my pulls in Nikke goddess of victory and brown dust 2 but this game isn't fun to pull in for me personally Thanks for the reply and info! Love the videos
Now that I know a little more about the difference, I'm split between the 2 banners. I haven't encountered anyone who's pulled Siris on the 100 banner in fewer than 75 pulls (8x10pulls with 5 left over) but in the game chat, it looks like the average is somewhere between 85 & 95. That's only slightly better than losing 50/50 every single time on the 80 banner. The difference is that you don't even get a dup of a standard character. On the other hand, if the game is in a humorous mood when you pull on the 80 banner, it might make you lose 50/50 above 70 and then only give you the limited character above 60. Either situation isn't exactly ideal for F2P.
Im assuming the reason the average is somewhere between 85 and 95 is probably cause of soft pity assuming the banner has it. The 0.1% chance of pulling something before soft pity is definitely not ideal. I'm leaning a bit more in the direction of the guarantee banner being a bit more f2p friendly just because of the fact you get what you're looking for at 100 pulls instead of potentially going up to 160 to get the limited character. If the rates were like at least 1.0% on the 50/50 banner then I think I would be on the fence about it.
@unlimitoad - Yeah, it's a hard choice. Watching one UA-camr actually pulling Siris at exactly 90, has pushed me into leaning a little more towards 50/50. The game simply doesn't have enough purples available on F2P to take it to 85 and above (75 if you're very lucky), every single time. That's of course unless you've got a tonne of purples already saved up at event start.
Maybe it's my insanely good luck in the previous event that's made me delusional but the odds on the 80 banner seems ever so slightly better.
@@MaxumeYeah i can see where your coming from. The 80 banner is better if you win the 50/50 or get 5 stars early but the 100 is better if you dont want to take the risk and tend to loose the 50/50 like me🤣
I agree I'm finding this new banner isn't really for f2p it's for whales to just buy the characters I think is my opinion. 100 pulls is a lot in this game you would be very lucky to get that many in 30 days for an update. But each update has 2 character banners so you really need 200 pulls per month. I'm confused how they are going to sell skins for characters if I can't even get the characters 😭 either lose the 50/50 or not have enough pulls for the 100 as F2P or spend my money on pulls not really happy with any of those options lol
@@brendonbewersdorf986 When I posted the comment I had my doubts but I'm now firmly in the 50/50 camp. The 100 banner is undoubtedly designed purely for the sake of whales and for roping other people into paying by using the "I'm almost there" carrot.
On paper 0.7% looks so much better than 0.1%. But in reality, I've been playing this game since the beginning and I have never gotten 5 stars characters under 70 pull. Maybe some people got super lucky once or twice. To be honest 0.7% is pretty abysmal, I wouldn't rely on it. Not to mention you can lose the 50/50 and you will have to go over 100. Might as well pull the new one, the chance to get 5 stars is still bad but the less RNG I have to deal with the better.
I think the new banner is for whales to just buy the characters basically is what I think 🤔 because while the guaranteed is really nice 100 pulls is A lot especially if your F2p. Then factor in reruns for each patch so you need about 200 pulls depending on your luck if you want Kataya and siris? That's alot 😭 it doesn't help they keep throwing 4-5 skins at us each patch and I don't have any of the characters the skins are for lol
I'll have to see how this plays out in game im gonna try the 100 for Kataya and try my hardest to somehow get enough for her because she is a must have character if you want to do good in this game. I'll see if the 100 does good or not
I agree that 0.7 is very low thats kinda why I personally feel like the 100% is slightly better especially for people with luck like mine. If the rates were like 1% or higher then I feel like it would be a little closer. I usually get my five stars on the regular banner mostly late 60s and sometimes early 70s,I think I got 1 or 2 earlier but I cant remember my pulls from when I started the game.
@@brendonbewersdorf986 Yeah youre probably right that the new banner is definitely better for whales or even low spenders. F2P is a bit of a toss up depending on how each players summons are. Maybe its just how my katya is built, but I dont think shes a must have to do good in the game. I use her all the time but I can do just fine without her considering I have cherno and yao with her weapon.
@@unlimitoad yeah that sucks this banner doesn't seem like an upgrade id have been fine if they increased the pity but kept the rate because 1% is already extremely low.
As for kataya she is a very strong DPS that makes a lot of the more tanky HP bloated bosses easier from what I've seen. I don't have her so I'm just going from what other people have told me. They tell me I gotta get her if I want to be able to take down harder bosses because her DPS is off the charts. I don't have cherno I wasted a lot of my saved pulls on her and got nothing lol. I really don't have any good dps besides fenny Coronet I can't comment on yao i don't have her upgraded at all.
Not gonna lie i am not super happy with this new gacha system. as a F2P i would be more inclined to buy skins if i actually had any of the characters the skins are for. The issue is if you step back and look at it each patch lasts around 30~ days and you will have a rerun character each patch so you would need to somehow get 200 pulls in a single month to get both characters not including weapons banner pulls. This game is most fun when playing more casually but if you actually wanted the characters you will now have to grind for currency making the game less fun. Im just not seeing how this new banner makes much of a difference. It seems from my impression that you basically trade the 50/50 for having to grind even more to scrounge up currency. If someone could do the math im curious if its even possible to get enough digicash currency for both characters in a month it might not even be possible 🤔. These are just my thoughts
I think you can get around 90 summons every patch assuming you do everything so unless youre blessed by rng youre only getting one character a patch.
@@unlimitoad yeah well if it is indeed 90 unless you saved 10 summons your not guaranteed even one lol 🤣 that sucks the 50/50 is still the better option I really hate that system I always enjoy spending my pulls in Nikke goddess of victory and brown dust 2 but this game isn't fun to pull in for me personally
Thanks for the reply and info! Love the videos